Revolutionary Nationalist General /rng/

>>129842074
Music:
Volk ans Gewehr (Brownshirts)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drAwiSG4slI

March of the SA (Brownshirts):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHboON6nysE

Footsteps (North Korea):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA1LFD6xfi4

No Motherland Without You (North Korea):
https://youtu.be/zmI2yDAyWYI

National Anthem of Libya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3rTBQ1qP2Q

Anthem of the Ba'ath Party:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4FwpVC9JVM

Marcha Peronista:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnncQKabYvM

Anthem of the BUF:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KtoKsT6fLI

Song of the fascist worker:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wDA0h6pZPA

Song of the NatSyn Falange:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0psF0cnLHE

>>129842074

I hate two faced kikes.

OPEN BORDERS FOR ISRAEL

>>129842506
Agreed.

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>>129842074

Socialism is for faggots. Just end the (((fed))) and treat money like the free market commodity that it is. See bitcoin.

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>>129843949
There's no mechanisms in place under the capitalist mode of production to protect the free market from predatory companies that want to use the state to establish monopolies. I believe in free markets but they can't really exist under capitalism.

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>>129842074
What are we supposed to do?

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>>129842074
>>129842107
>>129842635
>>129843745
>>129844259

Fuck off fash scum

>>129844320
idk, good question.
>>129844384
Anarchists get put up against the wall.

How do you effectively allocate resources without a price system? No country has figured it out yet.

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>>129842107
>1ObcVEoy
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>>129844510
I believe in markets under a different mode of production. Price controls are dumb.

"Capitalism is God's way of determining who is smart and who is poor."
-Goat

>>129844259
The role of government is just to protect its boarders, communities, and markets. Anything beyond that is garbage. That way you can't have state enforced monopolies, the government simply does not play a role in the economy at all.

>>129844259
Anarcho-Caps are cancer

Libertarians understand the need for government, even Ayn Rand knew there needed to be a body to enforce contracts if you have read her work, and she admits she doesn't have a way to fix it without government but offers some ideas.

>>129844843
What mechanisms are in place to make sure that a government stays at a minimal size? As long as you have zero economic regulations you're allowing your government to be threatened by monied interests and power brokers who want to hijack it to increase and protect their profit margins.

>>129844579
Well if you don't believe in private property prices cannot arise.

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Avast ye scurvy devils! Come into port at /pol/tuga

https:// .gg/fxQ7nFw

>Put "discord" in the gap, captcha thinks its spam

The ox-eyed man is the man for me,
He came a sailing from o'er the sea
Heigh ho for the ox-eyed man.

Oh, May in the garden a shelling her peas,
And bird singing gaily among the trees.
Heigh ho for the ox-eyed man.

Oh, May looked up and she saw her fate
In the ox-eyed man passing by the gate
Heigh ho for the ox-eyed man.

The ox-eyed man gave a fond look of love,
And charmed May's heart which was pure as a dove,
Heigh ho for the ox-eyed man.

Oh, May in the parlour a-sitting on his knee,
And kissing the sailor who'd come o'er the sea
Heigh ho for the ox-eyed man.

Oh, May in the garden a-shelling her peas,
Now weeps for the sailor who sail'd o'er the sea.
Heigh ho for the ox-eyed man.

>>129842074
commie scum trying to hide under the guise of "le based nationalist xd"
go back to 8gag you faggot

>>129842074
Literal commies get off my board reeeeeeee
On a more serious note, to any stormfags that are siding with these Bolshevik scum, know that Hitler had a relatively positive opinion of the free market, and that he had these nazbol strasserist fucks purged shortly after establishing his party as the dominant party in Germany.

>>129844989
Fair enough.
>>129845079
How do you define private property? I'm asking because people would be able to own their home and their possessions, this falls under the realm of personal property. With that said, businesses would be reorganized into worker controlled cooperative enterprises with profit sharing operating under market conditions.

>>129842074
>Edgy larpers
Topkek

>>129845016
Why the fuck would the government need to have control of the market to ensure that companies don't get a hold of the government so they can control the market?

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>>129845516
Rude tbqh.

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Reminder that while Marxism breaks the body, capitalism subverts the soul.

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>>129845516
this. hitler got rid of the black front and purged the SA for a reason.

>>129845790
leave you fucking nigger

>>129845761
The former is set up to control the market in a way to prevent subversion (of the government itself) by financial elites and power brokers. The latter is the subversion itself. You have to remember, that business interests don't only subvert governments to create monopolies (although that's a big big part of it). They also subvert governments in other ways, an example would be monied interests lobbying for looser border controls so that they can hire more illegals. Or lobbying for free trade agreements so they can move jobs overseas.
It depends on the company but when you have multiple companies engaging in this behavior it produces multiple subversive effects from a variety of different political and economic angles.

I'd also like to point out that 45% of the 1% are ethnically Jewish but based on the subversion I described, they're all Jewish in their behavior.
>>129846172
Fuck off kike. You people only support NatSocs when it's convenient. Most of the time you're bitching about muh state in their threads. Some of you are reasonable, but many lolberts are two faced Jews.

>>129842074
Get the fuck off my board before i call my private security

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>>129845516
>>129846172
One of the biggest differences between Mussolini and Hitler was how much government control over the market there was. Hitler allowed for a far freer market, whereas Mussolini maintained a tight governmental grip over it. Guess which nation rapidly industrialized and which nation was an embarrassment in the war?

>>129846525
>calling anyone a kike while literally describing yourself as a Bolshevik
The irony.

>>129846538
Why do you feel the need to shitpost these threads whenever they pop up? We don't come into your threads and shitpost? Memes aside, this is a serious question.

>>129846624
That's a meme response. You haven't read a single one of my arguments.

>>129846641
You absolutely do, don't even lie.

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>>129846641
>This is my safe space, leave me alone REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>129846709
No, I don't. I can't speak for others here but I don't.
>>129846713
>says the faggot.

>>129846682
I don't care about your arguments. I don't negotiate with Communists.

>>129846525
Great, why the fuck would a government help in this? The government in this case already doesn't involve itself in these matters. It doesn't deal with the economy at all so lobbying would do anything nor even be a thing. 3 jobs

>>129846641
Libertarian threads get raided constantly by commies and ancomms

>>129846682
>Bolsheviks were literally Jews

Its just a meme guys! (((You)))

>>129842074
>Larping Proto-Kikes 101: The Thread
Nice Jewish ideology you faggots have. Fuck off.

>>129846799
Than you lose if you're not willing to engage in debate. Libertarians get a reputation for being smart and engaging in arguments but I'm not sure where they get that reputation from considering many of them (like yourself) are moronic faggots.
>>129846852
Our current government exists to protect private property. The American revolution was a Masonic and Jewish revolution that replaced the aristocracy with the (((merchant))) class. Our current government would have no interest in preventing power brokers from taking over. That's why we need a new form of government.
>>129846972
Eh, fair enough. I don't usually visit your threads though.
>>129847033
I just use the nazbol flag because there's no Strasserite flag and people confuse nazbols and Strasserites anyway so the term "NazBol" makes a convenient shorthand for "any kind of left nationalist".

>>129847295
I never said our current government. We never claimed to be minarchist.

>>129844510
Yeah, computers would assign priority levels to scarce resources being collectively shared out.

>>129847492
You wouldn't say we were minarchist after the revolution? I'm asking because when I refer to our "current government" I'm referring to the government that has officially and continuously existed since that time.

>>129847647
It sounds like you're describing the Venus project anon.

>>129847295
By not participating in a debate you don't automatically lose you stupid faggot. And Hitler did the same to the Strasserites as he did to the national Bolsheviks. Purged them all. I'd go a bit more in depth but I cba to type so much shit on this gay phone.

>>129844989
The government acts like a third party arbitrator under ancap. Of course you'd want to hire someone willing to allocate enforcement security into your own and combine it to take on your contract partner if they fail to cede to the terms of an agreement. Still though, I'm libertarian.

>>129847654
We went from very loosely linked libertarian confederacy to a federalist republic basically overnight right before the revolution. I wouldn't say the nation was ever minarchist, however some of the states may have been before the revolution. Join or die saved what is now the US but forever stamped out any shot at minarchism.

>>129847654
>I'm asking because when I refer to our "current government" I'm referring to the government that has officially and continuously existed since that time.

This is not even close to the government we had in the beginning.

>>129846609
Yeah, big government AND big business tied together to fuck over the common man? Not even 'true' Communists would agree to this.

>>129847931
>I can't debate cuz of muh phone
>shut up fag, I didn't lose, I just don't want to debate you
>autistic screeching
>>129848083
So I take it you're in favor of the articles of confederation as opposed to the constitution?
>>129848151
Pre-constitution government?
And on a side note, if that is what you're describing, yeah, I'd agree it would be far more minarchist than the post revolution government although I'd still argue that in the beginning the post revolution government was still pretty minarchist with regards to overall scale.

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>>129848263
Hey, I didn't say it was perfect. But there's a very strong trend, that the more economic freedom a nation has, the more economic prosperity it has. Botswana, Hong Kong, Singapore, Chile, Switzerland, the USA, and so on all demonstrate this fact. If you want prosperity, free market capitalism is your best bet.

>>129848447
And a free market gives more equal opportunity to people with good competition to keep things cheap and accessible, allowing the poor man upward mobilization if they're not an embarrassment to humanity.

>>129848447
>Hong Kong, Singapore, Chile, Switzerland, the USA,
those countries have all lost their soul to cosmopolitarian capitalist faggotry

>>129848626
>keep things cheap and accessible
and shittier quality of the products.
>good goy keep being a consumerist slave

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>>129848626
Basically yeah. If you want to be prosperous in America, you need only virtue. A man could come here with nothing, but he can pull himself up to prosperity with his intelligence, hard work, and pragmatism.

>>129848636
Meaningless fascist drivel.

>>129845516
had there been a 'free market' party competing for power he'd have done the same.
Fascism requires unification and a set goal, such core disagreements would erode the movement and turn it into itself, given enough time.
It's not so much a matter of how warmly he felt for right nostril ideology or left nostril ideology, but a pragmatic decision based on circumstance.

>>129848859
turn it on itself*

>>129848791
>Meaningless fascist drivel.
He's right though. GDP doesn't determine the overall health of a nation. You have have a very high GDP but if your people are miserable it doesn't mean much.

capitalism is the only reason why you have the computer to make this post, retard.

>>129848763
Yet with a small price increase (if people are willing to buy quality unlike China due to cultural customs) you'd find better quality products.

>>129848969
>You have have a very high GDP
You can have a very high GDP*

>>129845713
nothing is stopping you from setting those up in a capitalist system. Share holders would simply be limited to workers.

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>>129842074

>>129847931
>And Hitler did the same to the Strasserites as he did to the national Bolsheviks. Purged them all.

Good! At least we won't be associated with a bunch of edgelord LARPers alongside the lolbertarian edgelords who are monkeys lacking true arguments raving on and on about muh helicopters, ignoring that Pinochet was little more than a CIA plant who had no interest in promoting their meme ideology.

Embarrassing.

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>>129848969
Then use a meaningful statistic, such as polled "happiness", don't just say random shit like the nation has lost its "soul".

>>129849090
Yeah but that's kind of beside the point. The overall point is to remove economic power brokers who can hijack the state at their own whim.
>>129849253
That's a fair point.

>>129842074
>http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/neo-nazi-accused-plot-synagogues-nuclear-facilities-article-1.3245348
archive
>https://archive.fo/cMSsj
Thoughts on Atomwaffen? They seem serious, I feel like the FBI is going to infiltrate the group now

>>129849670
I don't know a lot about them but I can admire their fervor and determination.

>>129849749
Italy failed because it was on the losing side of a war and was invaded by the British with the government removed. Italy wasn't as wealthy as Germany because Italy didn't have as much population and resources as Germany did.

Also Germany supported NATIONAL businesses, not international ones and strived for autarky not MUH FREE TRADE which brings over shitskins.

>>129848447
I was mainly pointing out the reason for Italy's failure. NatSoc Germany was more like modern China in leaving businesses alone unless the government wants to hijack it (in the case of foreigners or Jews).

>>129849436
>The overall point is to remove economic power brokers who can hijack the state at their own whim
This is more a problem with democracy and corruption rather than capitalism.

>>129850028
>This is more a problem with democracy and corruption rather than capitalism.
I think it's both desu. But yeah, I oppose democracy as a bourgeois and liberal concept. At least democracy in it's current form.

>>129848763
Out of curiosity what makes someone identify as a fascist rather than a nazi?

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What's up with all the inefficiency, necessity to steal, worthless currency, low quality copycat designs and lack of variety in consumer goods and the goods themselves under gommunism?

>>129849952
But with a freer economy they would've undoubtedly flourished more. Just imagine if Italy ran it like Hitler and traded with Germany to the point it was effectively an extension of Nazi Germany. The resources would've been there for the Italians to use in the war.

>>129844259
Nazbol is right. Crony capitalism is integral to capitalism.

>>129850195
Completely planned economies don't work. You can't eliminate markets. The USSR did a shit job at socialism. Tito did it right because he preserved markets and protected his nation from the Soviet bloc. That's why the standards of living in Yugoslavia were much higher in Yugoslavia than other gommunist countries.
>>129850335
Thanks.

>>129850166
Nazism is a fascist variant with onus on ethno centrism.

>>129850158
AKA "liberal" democracy.
You're pretty alright nazbol. Let's get the "representatives" out of there and go direct to the people. Let the people decide who they want to live with.

>>129850280
In all honesty I think the autarky was more imposed on Nazi Germany rather than a choice due to the jewish boycott etc

Free trade is logical, but your nations businesses should be run and owned by your own citizens. You can trade with each other with out letting your nation be bought out by a foreign power.

>>129850280
The war as a whole was a pointless move and also the Italians were historically horrible at war. This isn't a thing that Mussolini started. Just read up on their involvement in WW1. Not everything has to do with how free your trade with. Italy was pretty free trade free market in WW1, it didn't help them there either.

>>129850564
>You're pretty alright nazbol.
Thanks Ameribro.
>Let's get the "representatives" out of there and go direct to the people. Let the people decide who they want to live with.
I used to believe in direct democracy but I honestly don't know how well it would work. However I'm skeptical because people are easily manipulated by media outlets. I'd rather have a system led by a strong figurehead or monarch that is elected by a grand workers council made up of those who have moved up the highest in their respective industries through meritocratic means. i.e. a system with some democratic elements without technically being considered a democracy.

>>129850466
idk ethnocentrism seems to be the most appealing part of nazism. can you explain your views in more detail?

>>129850762
You could argue the genetics of being close to Africa. Or you could water it down to just degenerates which Mussolini tried to purge, didn't help much there either.

>>129851003
t.Chris Cantwell

>>129851067
Italy wasn't even ready for war, it was predicted that they'd have the capacity to wage war by 1943 at the very latest but they just went 'sure why not what could go wrong :D'

>>129842074
Fuck the merchants.

This is the true hierarchy.

Priest
Warrior
Artisan
Farmer
Merchant

Greetings comrades

Make America Strasserist Again

>>129850921
Direct democracy is mob rule. The point of a Republic is to have those with merit be influencing the political landscape. If everyone had a hive mind democracy and collective schemes might work, like at the end of deus ex invisible war with JC ending.

>>129851340
Agreed.
>>129851359
>Make America Strasserist Again
Would be quite nice m80.
>>129851403
>Direct democracy is mob rule.
I agree
>The point of a Republic is to have those with merit be influencing the political landscape.
Well, the system I propose has more in common with a republic than a democracy. Although it might be better described as a combination of fascism, monarchism, socialism with a bit of republicanism. Sounds eclectic but that's really the best way to describe it.

>>129851340
Why is the farmer so low surely those other classes can't live without crops nigga

>>129850735
The problem with free trade is that it sets too many standards for what can be traded and how. One day you wake up and five-note ditties or single colors become someone's property.
>>129850921
>However I'm skeptical because people are easily manipulated by media outlets
The sheer variety of media outlets of all sizes has shown how the big ones seem to get their orders from some central location as if they were performing in a choir. Comments sections make it easier for people to call out bullshit.
>those who have moved up the highest in their respective industries through meritocratic means
Meritocracies always devolve into aristocracies. The trouble is, who decides who moves up? If the grand council, then the Chinese Communist Party, with all the pretense that entails. If the figurehead, then no pretense of democracy is present or required. If the workers, then it's little more than representative democracy all over again, with all the shit that entails. If some key performance indicator, then those who move up will be those who can best game their indicators, which doesn't spell good fortune for the collective venture that would be the nation.
>>129851403
>Direct democracy is mob rule. The point of a Republic is to have those with merit be influencing the political landscape.
See what I wrote to nazbro above. Meritocracies never work, because merit inevitably becomes reproducing the status quo with someone's "personal mark" left on it. Nancy Pelosi is the predictable product of a meritocracy working as designed. I mean, if you read the Federalist Papers, rich men showed themselves more concerned about keeping their riches than serving the will of the people.
Maybe republics don't earn their keep. Why LARP?

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National Socialism is the only solution to Jewish domination.

>>129851801
That comes down to human nature. Traditionally, those who earned wealth were appointed because they demonstrated market competency, or at least 'favor with God'. We also appoint on tests, but it's hard to make good tests for merit.

>>129852479
Also, typically you find diverse opinions on merit, so the criteria for an appointee making a meritable choice changes with the next appointee (like the office of US President) so it's hard to measure the success of meritable choices without consistently making similar choices.

>>129851801
>The sheer variety of media outlets of all sizes has shown how the big ones seem to get their orders from some central location as if they were performing in a choir. Comments sections make it easier for people to call out bullshit.
Yeah that might be true to a degree. I sometimes wonder if they take orders from alphabet soup organizations.
>Meritocracies always devolve into aristocracies.
It would probably depend on the type of "meritocracy".
>The trouble is, who decides who moves up?
The workers themselves would decide on who represents their industry in the grand council. When someone enters the workforce they'd have to do a set amount of labor service before being able to vote on a representative (3 years might be a good example). Potential representatives would be members of the labor force who have gained the most expertise in their respective fields. Master artisans would be a good example of this.
As for the figurehead, you'd have to have respective candidates go through some sort of psychological and mental exams to make sure they're fit to rule. They'd also have to be a high ranking military or labor official who has shown that they can work their way up the ladder proving that they're the most qualified for the job. With that said, I hope I read your response right so that I was able to give an informed answer.

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True nationalism is anti-capitalist. Ancaps/lolbertarians/republicunts will hang on DOTR.

>>129853273
>The workers themselves would decide on who represents their industry in the grand council.
The problem is the workers are just a specific type of mob. It triggers me when anti capitalists use the generic term 'the workers'. Mobs are infamous for spinning bad ideas around in a cycle every few years. Just look at the pendulum effect between democrats and Republicans in US elections every ~8 years.

>National Bolshevism is the most powerful ideology ever conceptualized
>The Nazbol ideology unites nationalism with the liberation of rent extraction by the bourgeois class


>You love the nation and think all resources of the nation should be used to advance the national interest
Lolbertarians and cringe Natsocs are like
>You want the nation to be as powerful as possible today? Fuck off Jew, we are edgy teenagers we don't actually believe in sacrifice for the nation

Yeah fuck off pseudo nationalists, being a Nazbol means you love the nation and expect citizens to sacrifice to advance the nation.

>>129853661
Yeah but by those standards you could almost call any group of people a "mob". The difference is that in this case people would be voting on issues they actually understand. You wouldn't have coal miners voting on a manufacturing representative or vice versa. You also wouldn't have the head of state voted upon everyone, the only people voting in this case would be the best of the best within a particular field. Not to mention, voting wouldn't be a birthright. If you refuse to work or advance the nation in someway you wouldn't have the right to vote. This effectively removes leeches from the political process.

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>>129848791
>Meaningless fascist drivel.

Obviously you're confused. Why do you think any of us care about any of this? That "meaningless fascist drivel" is the reason we're all here, except you apparently.

You're here because you're upset that society isn't enough of a soulless consumerist postmodern morass of mongrelized nihilistic cogs. Well I'm sorry Captain Liberty but that's not why anyone else is here.

The NatBols are here because they see Capitalist exploitation and the culture-killing nature of consumerism as evil.

The NatSocs are here because they see the culture-killing nature of Jewish crony capitalism AND the race-killing nature of multiculturalism as evil.

If you had to ask us what our priorities are, the NatSocs wouldn't get to "free markets" until about five spaces down the list, if that, and the NatBols wouldn't get there AT ALL.

So what are you trying to argue here? This is what we care about. It doesn't matter how free your markets are if your country has become Brazil. What you are offering has NO VALUE.

>>129853661
>the workers are just a specific type of mob.
The type of mob that keeps society functioning.

>Mobs are infamous for spinning bad ideas around in a cycle every few years.
Like keeping society functioning?

>Just look at the pendulum effect between democrats and Republicans in US elections every ~8 years.
Both are corporatist whores who will sell out the national interest to the highest bidder.

Workers work soldiers fight, a worker protest would obviously have to be smashed by security forces, they have legitimate channels to express issues with production routines, openly questioning the state and undermining production chains means the rope for you.

There are no worker protests in a Nazbol society.

>>129853966
Yeah well humans in general suck at deciding things. No collective ideology or central planning should be done with humans.

>>129854353
>No collective ideology or central planning should be done with humans.
So basically you are an anarchist? Wrong flag my confused friend

>>129854353
What's the alternative? I agree humans fuck everything up no matter what system you choose but in my humble opinion the system I described is the best way to prevent those fuck ups. I just don't think absolute "freedom" is realistic. True freedom is when you have a degree of physical security, job security and a meal at the end of the day. At least in my opinion.

>>129854189
Is there a NazBol manifesto or something because I have never scene any kind of specific ideology as of yet? The 25 points of national socialism explain everything but I haven't seen anything similar from other groups.

>>129842074
>distributists
>anti-capitalist

>>129854562
The closest thing to a NazBol manifesto would probably be anything by Ernst Niekisch. Some would say the 4th political theory but he's more of a Eurasianist than an actual NazBol. With that said, I'm not technically a NazBol, I'm a Strasserite. So I'd personally recommend Germany Tomorrow by Otto Strasser.

>>129854515
Well I'm a libertarian because I want to keep the government as small as possible if humans lead it without resorting to anarchy. The less federal agencies and government employees the better.

>>129854693
>4th political theory
Was talking about Dugin being a Eurasianist, forgot to mention that.

>>129854562
As I understand it people use the nazbol flag because there is no strasserist flag. At least that's what I'm hoping to get across + general anti-capitalism.

Read Germany Tomorrow by Otto Strasser

>>129854693
Thanks

>>129854993
np I might also recommend this video as there aren't any PDFs available online of Germany tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0AjHeTyuxg

>>129854557
Well if you can get past the religious warnings, the bugginess and guinea pig nature of its trials, the acceptance of a conformed and lack of individualist society, anything to do with computers or transhumanism will do. But I'm religious so I only would really maybe dabble with computer slavery.

>>129855164
Transhumanism sounds like a double sided coin. On one hand, if it was done right it sounds like it could potentially be a wonderful utopia. On the other hand if it was done wrong it sounds like it could be a terrifying dystopia. Plus the idea of losing my humanity scares the shit out of me.

>>129855325
Exactly, yet it's the only way humans will efficiently centrally plan anything. That's why I'm no collectivist shill.

>>129855164
>>129855325
Ancap will lead to mad max, while lolbertarianism is the ideology most likely to give us a transhumanist cyberpunk dystopia.

>>129855525
How do you feel about the Venus project?
>>129855657
Sounds about right.

National Syndicalist society when.

Ramiro Ramos had it right.

>>129855657
I'll be fine with accepting my virtual waifu and denying immortality dying before shit gets collective.

>>129855683
I haven't taken too much a look into it, but if they want to do what I think they want to do, then I don't have a problem with it because I promote freedom to try things as long as they don't interfere with my life.

>>129855971
There's a documentary about it you might be interested in watching. They basically advocate a technocratic resource based economy. I don't agree with it but it's an interesting thought.

>>129856142
What are your reasons for disagreeing?

>>129856335
Well, you'll probably think this is ironic but it sounds too much like communism. They don't believe in nations or money.

>>129856494
Well truly the collective direction they're going in means it's unnatural for humans to experience (just look at the decollectivized Kibbutzim for an example) and that they WILL pursue transhumanism. If they force it down people's throats count me out

>>129855709
Soon.
It is sad that fellow goys don't know that 45% of the rich people are jews, and believe the ideology that empowers the jews.
Sad really.

>>129856778
People are waking up anon.

>>129856741
Fair enough.

>>129856968
So far in watching part of their documentary, they're pushing alarmist statistics. I guarantee once fusion becomes a thing we control by 2050 all of those issues will go away, even if we do nothing about climate change or other issues.

>>129858850
It's been so long since I watched it I honestly don't remember. The solutions they propose sound really nice but I don't think they're feasible when you factor in resource scarcity.

>>129859258
Granted if we dominate the vast resources in space that won't really be an issue. Once we have fusion, we can transmutate some resources into completely different ones, which will turn 3D printing into synthesizers.

>>129859438
Also, fusion alone would give us very large surpluses of resources on earth alone as we will be able to turn common dirt and rock into what we need. But controlling fusion in this way is different from harvesting it for energy which can be done by 2050. It might take us another 50 years to transmutate, or less if AI helps us.

>>129842074

How would you rule a state without capital? Which posibilities there are of being competent among other nations?
Also, how would NatRev deal with the needs of an organizative structure, division of powers, establishment of laws,etc of modern societies?

>>129853487
We outnumber you sweetie, your little manlet squad wouldn't stand a chance

>>129859438
>>129859696
I'm not really a big expert on fusion desu but thanks for the info libertybro.
>>129859870
>How would you rule a state without capital?
Money as a concept wouldn't be eliminated, nor would markets. The only change would be the mode of production.
>Which posibilities there are of being competent among other nations?
You'd be surprised how much more productive the economy can be with just the right amount of nationalization.
>Also, how would NatRev deal with the needs of an organizative structure, division of powers, establishment of laws,etc of modern societies?
Check this post. I lay out the ideal Strasserite society: >>129853273

>>129856142
Eh, they sure are emphasizing the environment as the cause of everything now. I've seen articles that day both genes and environment determine a person with almost 50/50 responsibility, and epigenetics change a person's traits too.

>>129860628
say*

Fuck off and leave people's money alone you fucks.

NatSoc/NatCon/TradCon/Fash is good enough to fight against capitalist neoliberal globalism.

There's literally no motivation to self improve and start a family in NatBol as you'll get taxed like fuck to feed some degenerate just because he's the same race as you.

You fucks also promote women in the workforce.

>>129860628
I agree to an extent. I don't know what the exact ratio is but I definitely think genes play a role.
>>129861034
Nice assumptions m80.

>>129861034
Capitalism is jewish.
You don't need to be a natbol to be left-nat.
I am a national syndicalist, no income tax at all, just goods tax.

>Strasserists
>NatBols

Are you serious right now?

>>129862048
This is a big tent thread. Pretty much anyone who's a left nationalist is welcome.

>>129862048
That is the only way to spread the word about left nat, but i strongly oppose using Nat-Bol flags for strasserists.

>>129862626
It's just a shorthand. No strasserite actually believes that Strasserism is the same as nazbol. However, nazbol is a rising meme and I think Strasserites could ride it's coat tales into relevancy. At least until we get our own flag.

>>129862885
Depends where, you will never get far with natbol in any excommie country that isn't the USSR, same goes for /pol/, the name is enough to deter support.

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>>129862988
Maybe but we need something to define ourselves. NatSoc makes the most sense but it's been taken over by Hitlerites. Fascist also makes sense to a large degree but then you just end up blending in with every other tom dick and harry that calls himself a "fascist". It's a matter of finding alternative labels that haven't already been claimed by everyone else. With that said, I really wish we had pic related as a flag. I've even got the template for it. It wouldn't be difficult for the mods to add all of the new flags that everyone wants (especially the ones the users have scaled down). but for some reason they haven't done it. I don't know why.

>>129853487
that is the single most depressing image i have ever seen. i have seen hundreds of variations of that image, among them things like "mummy gf", "dominating trap gf" and "original the character do not steal gf", and this is the single saddest of them all. this is sad because it appears that this is your actual ideal, that you arent in fact memeing, but also that this IS your ideal, that this husk of a representation of something that is less than human is your ideal, that you would settle for something even Canadians wouldn't fuck. so sad.

>>129861177
we need to save the environment

>>129863878
I don't disagree with that assertion.

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Polish ONR (Falangist)
Manifesto:
>https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com.au&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.onr.com.pl/deklaracja-ideowa/&usg=ALkJrhgmVFB-ovkBfFtZnm35JxZygi4fzw
Thoughts??

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>>129842074

HI everyone this is OP's mom
I'm sorry for interrupting your chat on 4 cham
Can you people please tell my son to get a job he's almost 35 all he does is sit and play video games while smoking pot all day then talks about how the government should take care of him. He keeps going on about communism, but I have told him from a very young age to make himself gainfully employed he laughed and told me he was going to be a rock star. Now he just sits in my home playing Game box and leaching off of his father's pension from the mill

Sorry to rant but I'm all out of options for this now.

>>129863878
This desu

Greetings brothers.

>>129865264
Falangists are cool.
>>129870603
Howdy.

What's worse about libertardians is that they look at the collapsing degenerated society around them and go "You know what? We need more of this" or they try to praise Hoppe but ignore the fact that you can still have degenerate communities in his system, which spread dangerous ideas to other more conservative communities.

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>>129867613
nice boomer posting.

>>129846172

Hey third positionist bros, what is your stance on modernism? I personally find pretentious esoteric traditionalism like Evola does extremely pretentious and abstract to be put in practice, I think that movements like italian futurism and how they aesthetically and ideologically influenced fascism should become an integral part of our ideology, I doubt anyone who isn't a larper would prefer those "traidshunal medieval aryan women in wheat fields" fantasy over the beauty of the strong state and healthy industrialization

>>129874701
>italian futurism and how they aesthetically and ideologically influenced fascism should become an integral part of our ideology
Feel free to elaborate. The connection between futurism and fascism has always appeared fuzzy to me.

>>129874701
Evola was actually a genius. His conclusions about modernity were correct, I'm just not sure about his solutions.