Since it is established that alcohol is degenerate, is weed?

Neither are (if you're not growing or pregnant) in moderation. Alcohol especially features in both Christian and pagan rituals.

>>129766283
Both are

>>129766283

It's been established that I don't care.

Nobody here can make their mind up so just work it out according to your own personality/brain/body.

>>129766758
rituals are gay

>>129766283
Rum ain't degenerate.

>>129767790
Kek nice post mi hearty

I guess it depends
some artists, writers, scientists claim it helped them
many religions have altered states of minds

I don't know, but I do know that every pothead I have ever met was a loser with no motivation in life
and every one I know who did harder drugs started with weed
so I personally stay away
I do drink socially, but I never get shitfaced or lose control

It's weakness and failure

>>129767770
Rituals bind communities, keep alive the memory of the dead, and transition people from children to adults. The lack of a clear rite of passage into adulthood is why there are so many manchildren. Rituals are important
>>129767790
>Pirateposting
I approve of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f55CqLc6IR0

i love weed, i hunt and i fish, also grow my own shit, alcohol is evil, weed is from god, BTW rastafaris are a form of orthodox christian

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>>129766283
Tell us all about degeneracy, comrade.

>>129766283
All drugs if taken for the purpose to get high are degenerate.

>>129766283
It is degenerate and can lead to your life being ruined. Do you want to take that chance desu?

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Weed is totally bluepilled. It makes you stupid, lazy, and emotionally blunted. I wish I could have all the money back I spent on that stupid crap when I was a dumb teenager.

Light drinking is entirely non-degenerate, and /pol/-approved. It's been a fundamental part of western civilization going back to Ancient Greece and Rome, a social lubricant, anxiolytic, and sleep aid.

>Is X degenerate?

>>129768936
yeah right, that why one is legal an the other not...
bible backs weed, but hates alcohol, sorry you loose

>>129766283
Anything that compromises a clear mind is degenerate.

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>>129769276
Tell me more, my white friend.

>>129766283
>Smoking is degenerate
>Drinking fermented products is degenerate
>Eating animal products is degenerate

There you go, you just eliminated 90% of your bodily acidity over a lifetime and prevented tons of diseases and pains.

>>129768936

This is true. All the people that I know that smoke weed are week, incompetent, low achievers that have nothing going for them.

>>129769891
"Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs" (Genesis 9:3, see also Revelation 22:2).
Ephesians 5:18
Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit,

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>>129769951
>Eating animal products is degenerate

Weed is generally harmless
There's no compelling arguments against it, ignore the DURR ITS DEGENERATE posters
I'm glad to live in a country where we decriminalized it, works like a charm

>>129766283

Anything besides Advil and Tylenol is degenerate.

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>>129766283
No. Weed has been shown to strengthen neural pathways and increase overall brain activity. It doesn't make you stupid or lazy, it just happens that stupid and lazy people are likely to try it.

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>>129771023
Yeah, wine is pretty degenerate. Beer and cider seem to be in the clear though.

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>>129771120

>>129767770
U are gay.

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>>129771563

>>129771563
Vegan Gains is very obviously on Tren

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>>129766283
WHAT?!?YOU DON'T SMOKE WEED HUH PUSSY?!?! FUCKING FAGGOT DON'T YOU KNOW THAT WEED AND TUMERIC MAKE YOU IMMORTAL

Have you ever seen that video of that guy that hit a moose with his car? Jamie pull that shit up

>>129771563
his neck is so thin, goddamm lifters, they are funny, all their shit is useless , chokes dont give a shit how much you curl

>>129768428
>The lack of a clear rite of passage into adulthood is why there are so many manchildren.

Did you drop out?

>>129767790

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnHXRyabx2A

THC Infused Condoms.

>>129767790
AND WE'LL ROLL THE OLD
CHARIOT ALONG

>>129771248

Smoking weed daily is definitely degenerate, as is being a drunk. Everything counts in large amounts.

Hemp seat belts.

>>129771023
Religion is twice as degenerate as any recreational substance

>>129773154
how is smoking weed daily degenerate? you get a shitty short-term memory, which is temporary, i've never heard of long-lasting damage caused by weed

>>129766283
Gin is love, Gin is life.

>>129768724
youre gonna have a boring life. you should try mdma if you really are serious.

>>129766283
>my girl says alcohol is degenerate because I get drunk and hit her
>will I hit her on weed?

>>129766283
>is weed?
Yes. Weed is for niggers, spics, and white retards.

>I don't enjoy it so I won't let anyone else either

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>>129773680
>Religion is twice as degenerate as any recreational substance
Oy fucking vey.

Cannabis Coin: The Worlds First and Only Plant Based Currency

coptic orthodox fag hating christian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG8UH_AMzU4

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>>129766283
>Since it is established that alcohol is degenerate
Hold the fucking phone. I know you types love to posture about how pure you are by calling everything you see degenerate, but this is ridiculous even by your standards. Civilized people have consumed alcohol for thousands, if not tens of thousands of years, but suddenly now this thing we've been doing for-fucking-ever is wrong because...?

Weed is degenerate, alcohol is not. Alcohol is the great facilitator of social cohesion. Your United States would not exist if your patriots had never met and discussed the dreams of revolution over pints in pubs and taverns across the colonies.

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>smoke weed
>go on killing spree
Keep it banned

>>129774646
Let us convince everyone that every moment is worth celebrating forever.

Starting now and with your next drink.

>>129773955
your first sentence is the telltale sign that you are a degenerate

>>129768097
>and every one I know who did harder drugs started with weed
i fucking hate this.

when i was in jr high a bunch of kids would play the "pass out game" where they would choke themselves until they passed out, giving themselves some sort of high. every single one of those kids started smoking weed in high school. the ones i kept in touch with went to harder drugs later

is the pass out game a gateway into weed? fuck no. there are stupid people who think its cool to be high all day. these people are degenerates and would be degenerate no matter what substance they put into their bodies. its not the drugs fault, its their personal weakness.


>I do drink socially, but I never get shitfaced or lose control
see? degenerate lose control, regular hardworking people dont. degenerates should be banned, not drugs

>>129773154
Grabbing hands grab all they can

>>129774880
http://www.japanhemp.org/en/thc.htm

>>129775468
ITS A COMPETITIVE WORLD

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>>129766283
Dost though suggest the very blood of Christ be sinful? Hark brothers I believe we have a heretic in our midst! Grab the holy instruments of penance that we may baptize this heathen with fire!

>>129767790
>Pirate

Day of the plank soon matey!

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1. Fuck Alcohol
2. Fuck Weed
3. Fuck Drugs

If you have any questions please refer to the above statements.

>>129771023
Yeah Pablo, poison ivy and hemlock are "green herbs" too.

Sorry you fell for the Jews' propaganda. "It's just a leaf man. It's harmless. Everything else that gets you high is problematic. Marijuana is the magical exception. Being a stoner and a slacker is cool."

And notice that the Bible prohibits drunkenness, not drinking overall.

>>129766283
>Since it is established that alcohol is degenerate,
Alcohol wasn't degenerate until Russia turned it into a national disaster

Has degeneracy been automated yet?

Getting really bored over here.

>>129776712
We're already past peak degeneracy, automating it at this point would be waste of time.

Neither are inherently degenerate.

Does uour use of such drugs inhibit your abilty to carry out your day to day responsibilities? Are they causing a hole in your finances?

If not, whats the fucking problem with drinking a beer or smoking a joint on the weekend. I dare anyone to tell me one problem with this.

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>redpilled
>do drugs

Pick one

>>129769951
But fermented foods are good for you

>>129777066
So your saying the Sisyphus snowball effect is now an avalanche?

But it's ok since we have high ground?

>Weed is degenerate
>jesus used cannabis oil
>jesus was degenerate

>>129766283
nope

>>129776242
I agree, but what about smoking tobacco?

>>129768428
this

>>129766283
both are degenerate however I will say as a weed smoker for a number of years that weed can actually be beneficial. I have smoked it long enough to understand what it actually does to you when you smoke it, it simply helps you separate from thought, giving you a much clearer insight into your own psychology.

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>>129771563
lol, okay kiddo
>>129771939
Don't use our cultural icons to justify your protein starved brain, leaf.

>>129771120
I love eating meat, but the guy has a point because it is in fact toxic to your body due to the fats it contains.

>>129766283
If you're going overboard with any mind altering substance it's degenerate. Don't be a disgusting glutton consuming so much that you're gaining weight, negatively impacting your life, and messing up your head. Don't become so dependent that you need it for anxiety and to cope with life. It's not hard. The less the better.

For medicinal purposes it's fine. Sometimes I put prairie home companion on and smoke a joint on my beach and pretend I'm in a cabin by a snowy lake with horses and lanterns and away from politics all together and it's really really nice for my guacoma.

>>129766283
yes. Alcohol is not degenerate though.

>>129768936

Light Drinking is disgusting; Either drink until you get knocked out or don't even bother.

>>129766283
Yes... Incredibly degenerate. If you have smoked even one marijuana in your life you are a pleb tier nigger.
With alcohol you can drink craft beer in moderation and actually have at least a level of sophistication. With weed, any amount gets you high and lowers your cognitive functions.

>>129771023
Filled with the spirit eh? Time to drink whiskey in the confessional!

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>>129779340
Tobacco is the most redpilled. Pic related

weed permanently damages the female reproductive system and halves male test levels and sperm count. yes its degenerate.

>all these weed threads lately
normally I'd say get off my board you weed pushing lanklet of a jew, but idgaf anymore.

look up the studies yourself. I'm no one's infobroker anymore.

>>129782392

How's high school?

>>129766283
Look at Joe lifting all that weight by himself. Isn't he a big boy? Yes he is! He is a big boy!

>>129782910
>permanently damages the female reproductive system
with regular or prolonged usage I should add. not many studies though because they "feared the effects on the women in the study"

yeah, weed is totally based.

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>>129766283
Better a Gram than a Damn
Now keep "relaxing" dudes

>>129783217
this is real fucked up m8 i just got done watching that first episode about 5 seconds ago. Something bizarre is fucking with me.

>>129782816
i enjoy it the most in moderation

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>>129783301
Dont worry mate,i just post her wherever i can

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>>129766283
Yes and no.

Substance isn't degenerate.
A human who over-abuses a substance is.

It doesn't fucking matter if you're an alcoholic, "smoke erry day" stoner or a nicotine addict. You're a degenerate either way.

>>129783597
I'm on here 24/7 like a drug addict and i never see that but then after watching that first episode i come on here. First thing I see is that fucking image. How the fuck likely is that?

>>129774996
Murder is already illegal, anon.

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>>129766283
I'm drink alcohol because being sober is awkward in social situations. If you can not control yourself drinking or while on alcohol then it is degenerate. If you are an alcoholic then you are weak and have no control. Smoking weed everyday is completely degenerate. Having a toke once a week or month is ok imo. However most pot users spend all of their money on weed or deal to supply themselves. Personally I think drugs should not be regulated just like the economy. This does not mean doing them is ok.

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>>129783749
Just enjoy the ride
>tfw no s2

>>129784074
Its good so far

weed is actually completely dulling the minds of the human race. Being someone who smoked nearly everyday for 7 years, and then quitting, it like getting out of a hazey cloud and seeing things as they really are.

Weed and alcohol are really the only good drugs (besides aspirin and caffeine)
>Weed for mind expansion and great sex
>Alcohol for alpha socialising
win win boys wrap it up

>>129784594
yep. and don't forget the reproductive system issues. great stuff

muh
>BAAASSEEDD PLANT

>>129784650
if you need either to do either of those things you're fucking up and need to better yourself.

>>129785034
It enhances it, nobody needs anything

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Debating about weed's legal status on /pol/ is completely pointless.

Everyone is focusing on the wrong questions on drug matters.
It's not a matter of "is it harmful for you?" but "should the law makers babysit your consumption of substances?"
If you want to be treated like an infant child who can't make decisions for himself THEN you have arguements that I can hear out.
However I'll still stick to vaporizing weed for my saturday night past-time and relax.

It's an entirely different matter whether or not it should be banned on public places because then you're not only hurting yourself. Punishment for public consumption of any substance shouldn't be any heavier than a fine though, maybe lock them up for the night if they're too intoxicated, acting belligerently and endangering other people.

>>129785034
>if you need
Here come the fucking robot wannabes.
Do you really live on the bare minimum that you NEED to survive?
No, because then you wouldn't be on 4chan now would you?

>>129785518
>should the law makers babysit your consumption of substances
yes. because people are fucking retarded and left to their own devices without any leadership will completely fuck up their lives. and if you really want to get into why, understand this, smoking affects your genetics, its recently been found that you pass on a sort of epigenetic history to your children, and weed smoking has permanent effects on the female reproductive system in the long term. you're not partaking just for yourself and people that use that argument belong in the group of "nothing matters so I can do whatever I want" everything you do matters, everything you do has consequences, drugs and alcohol can affect your children as well. there is currently, with our understanding of the effects of weed and new discoveries in the field of epigenetics, no way that you can argue that you are only partaking of weed for yourself.

your choice, but you should be educated about it past listening to the thoughts of a bunch of pot smokers.

t. former pot smoker.

>>129766283
nice try hakim

>>129766283
Of course it is, it's used by weak minded little fucks to escape their shitty self-created situations. It's the plant of jiggabos, spics, and prairie niggers.

>>129766283
why have you kikes decided alcohol is degenerate

you're going against all of human history

that makes you the worthless degenerate faggots

>>129786424
>people are fucking retarded and left to their own devices without any leadership will completely fuck up their lives.
Ahh so Pharma industry which depends on our addictions to feed their machine should be totally obeyed, for our own good? Hmm really makes me think!

>>129766283
>Since it is established that alcohol is degenerate, is weed?

yes but not as much as sugar

>>129786424
>yes. because people are fucking retarded and left to their own devices without any leadership will completely fuck up their lives.

this is what freedom is all about

>>129786424
>people are fucking retarded and left to their own devices without any leadership will completely fuck up their lives
Why do you care? The people with self-control and the ones who can live with or even benefit from the consequences of their own decisions will survive either way.
>b-but weed is harmful
Did you even read my post? This is an entirely irrelevant arguement on the legality issue.
Teach them about the negative consequences but don't lock people up for 10 years for disregarding that.
That's violating the basic human right to pick up things from the ground and eating it.

>>129786815
Time for you to give that Blu-ray of American History X back to your older brother, junior.

>>129786424
Where's dem proofs, pham?

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>>129766283
WEED CURES CANCER FUCK FACE!!!!!!!!

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THIS IS YOUR DAILY REMINDER TO PLUG IN YOUR BLENDERS, HEAT UP YOUR FLOTATION TANKS TO SKIN TEMP (35.5*C)

THE WEED HAS BEEN LIT AND IT'S TIME TO SLAM YOUR KALE SHAKES, TAKE A TOKE & MARK OFF YOUR CHECKLIST

TO POP YOUR:

ALPHA BRAIN
SHROOMTECH
KRILL & MCT OIL
PRIMATE CARE PILLS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22GjkJw0WXk <---- HIT PLAY NIGGA

>YOUR FEAR FACTOR THEME SONG ALARM BLASTS THROUGH YOUR HOUSE

>YOU INSTINCTIVELY JUMP INTO YOUR HOMEMADE OCTAGON, FITTED WITH BATTLE-ROPES AND A "WRECKING BALL" STYLE CHIMP KETTLEBELL ACTION COURSE

>AFTER YOUR INTENSE WORKOUT YOU CALL OVER BRIAN REDBAN USING TING BEFORE GETTING INTO YOUR ISOLATION SENSORY DEPRIVATION FLOTATION TANK AND PACKING YOUR MOUTH TO THE BRIM WITH POT BROWNIES FOLLOWED SHORTLY AFTERWARDS BY COCONUT WATER ENEMAS JUST AS THE DMT KICKS IN AS YOU LISTEN TO DUNCAN TRUSSEL AND GRAHAM HANCOCK HYPOTHESIZE THAT THE PYRAMIDS = ALIENS AND THE ARK OF THE COVENANT IS HIDDEN IN UGANDA

DUDE BOOOOM LMAO

DUDE KETTLEBELLS LITERALLY ENCRUSTED WITH WEED AND DUNKED IN MCT OIL AND THROWN OFF BUILDINGS FEAR FACTOR STYLE

>"BRENDAN SCHAUB JUST END IT ALL, I THINK YOU ARE A WORTHLESS FIGHTER AND I HATE YOU, BUT COME BACK ON THE PODCAST SO I CAN BLOW YOU THE FUCK OUT OF THE WATER AGAIN AND REDUCE YOU TO TEARS"

>"BRENDAN "FRASER" "FUCK MY SHIT UP" SCHAUB, JUST TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT. YOUR CAREER IS OVER. IT'S TIME FOR THE SMITH AND WESSON RETIREMENT PLAN"

Joe Rogan, 2015
>YOU ARE NOW PICTURING JOE ROGAN NAKED IN A FLOTATION TANK WITH A MOUTH FULL OF POT BROWNIES TRIPPING

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cue the hempforce mustard

>>129786888
no, fuck big pharma don't twist my argument because you can't attack the one made, faggot.

>>129787050
there's a point where personal freedom does not benefit society. look around, we've reached it. welcome to weimerica, stop shilling for it.

>tfw you realize that absolute freedom consists of absolute power of the individual and corrupts as absolutely as absolute power in the hands of a ruler.

>>129787723
here's one http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/content/health-pubs-drug-cannab2-ch65.htm

that said, I'm not investing my time in informing you retards here anymore. find your own info if you're interested in a topic or in arguing it. I'm certainly not going to invest my time in giving you a crash course in epigenetics.

>>129786815
Cannabis has been most widely used in Asia throughout history.

>>129766283
Yes - but I require a certain threshold of degeneracy to not off myself so it's kool.

>>129786836
Same applies for weed and psychedelics.
They've been used 10,000 years ago. They were used BEFORE alcohol was found.

>>129766758
Important to note that moderation is relative and intoxication is by definition excess. With alcohol you can have a single drink and not become intoxicated but not so with marijuana.

>>129766283
*sips whiskey*
faggot.

>>129788514
>>129788514
>I'm not investing my time in informing you retards
I wouldn't waste my time either if all I had was state sponsored propaganda to support my thin beliefs.
>epigenetics
Is a buzzword that's misused by pseudoscientific quacks all the time to push an agenda or to sell a product. You're probably one the retards that think that genes get passed on to a woman any time you have sex with her.

Why cuck yourself out of enjoying life so you can be 'non-degenerate'?

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I have generalized anxiety disorder. If I start smoking weed daily will it increase my anxiety?

Weed is the white man's drug. It's only gotten a bad rap because it's associated with liberals/nigger culture, but there's nothing inherently BP about it.

Alcohol is far more degenerate, and all it takes to prove that is a quick look at the fucking statistics.