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15 dollar Minimum Wage

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Do you support it? Why or why not?
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>>129736226
yes, because gibs me dat
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>>129736226
Why the fuck does he have a jew star necklace
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>>129736226
>Star of David
Nice
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I don't support wage labor at all, so no
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>>129736408
Star of David is also a gang sign in America
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>>129736226
>30/month for transportation
>this is a lot
choose 1 and exactly 1
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>>129736226
No, it only drags everyone closer to minimum wage. Prices will increase and nobody will benefit, everyone loses.
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>>129736226
i wonder who could be behind this
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In Australia you can get a card that you preload with money that ends up costing half what tickets do. Do americans not have this?
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I get paid 5 a whole day, your niggers are fucking pussies.
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>>129736556

That's actually a week.
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$10 Big Macs or robot employees. Which one do you think McDonalds would pick?
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>>129736556
>7 days
>1 month

Muzzie education
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15 fucking dollars??? WTF? What are they all living in mansions or something?
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>>129736799
my local mcdonalds only has 2 people working at once now. someone to cook burgers and someone to fry. everything else is machine.

shit's nice
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>>129736226
>that star
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>>129736226
>IMPOSSIBLE decisions
such as:
>should i put napkins in the bag?
>should i add tomatoes even thought the customer specifically requested they be withheld?
>should i give use mustard when they asked for ketchup?
>should i give them sprite when they asked for coke?
>should i automatically charge them for they upsell size even though they didn't ask?

really broils my beef
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>>129736226
Fuck no. Minimum wage jobs are not careers. Either get a better job, or get skills and then get a better job. Raising the minimum wage increases amount earned, not buying power. If we raise the min wage, we will only increase inflation, and it will increase exponentially. I wish people weren't so fucking stupid.
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>>129737085
Nice. Wish I didn't have to deal with the fucking mouth breathers at my McDonalds. Robots don't miss hear your order.
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>>129736226
If market forces can't determine the value of labor then the state is functionally destroying the most vital aspect of the market.
A healthy economy, and country lacking a welfare state, wouldn't produce massive droves of unskilled individuals who spend their whole lives in entry level positions. This paradigm is a direct result of our malady of government meddling. We'd also have a stronger currency, and individual spending power would be higher, which inherently negates the necessity of higher wages.

>>129736849
>>129736888
Just remind shitlibs that their beloved Scandinavian Democratic Socialist countries don't have minimum wages.
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A FELLOW MELANIN MAN FROM THE LANDS OF BETA ISRAEL
SHALOM
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>>129737085

Sounds awesome, where's this at?
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>>129736335
fpbp
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>>129737085
The critical flaw in the strategy of those pushing $15/hour is they can force business to pay that wage but they can't force businesses to hire people
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>>129736226
>bitching about $27 a week
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i support it. i make $15.50 an hour and can barely get by. the only reason i can is because i live in Iowa and it's relatively cheap to live here.

you live in a place like CA or NY and there's no way $15/hr is enough.
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>>129737736
>no hot mess sandwich
>no more wedges
Why even bother?
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>>129736226
Yes and no. If you want to have a minimum wage then it should increase to match inflation which the American one doesn't. Wage should be a negotiation between the employer and employee or a union to represent the employees.
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Jobs like this shouldn't be made into a career. You shouldn't have to rely on a 15 dollar minimum wage at mcdonald's to make a living. you should want to progress to something greater but i'm guessing the kind of people who demand 15 dollars an hour are lazy and refuse to make a better life for themselves
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>>129736226
GAS THE KIKES
RACE WAR NOW
1488 1776
WORLD WIDE

GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST HOLY SPIRIT
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>>129736226
Communism doesn't work.
Communism has never worked.
Communism will never work.
Communism. Doesn't. Work.

The minimum wage Drag's wages down for all but the few.
If you want better wages except free market.
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Minimum wage is the equilibrium wage.
Or rather...forced equilibrium.

A minimum wage is a price floor on labor. Price floors are only binding when they are set above the equilibrium.

This creates a shortage of jobs demonstrated by pic related.

I broke it down retard level for you fucking lazy commie socialist fucks who want to make $15 an hour for running a cash register.

If you want to speed up being replaced by robots, then raise it.
You wanna increase unemployment, raise it.
You wanna increase qualifications for high school level jobs, raise it.
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>>129736543
They don't take cash though.
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>>129736554
what gang?
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>>129736226
Abolish minimum wage.
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flag test
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>>129738065
Trying to fix rotation
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>>129736335
Idiot. Working for pay is pretty much the opposite of demanding gibs.
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>>129737736
These devices look pretty inefficient, if I was the designer I would get McDonalds/whoever's doing it to push a McDonalds card, allow people to set up their favourite orders online/with an app so it's a swipe and press for their favourites.
Maybe even just connecting the favourites to a credit card instead of a McDonalds card.
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>>129736226
I say edgy things such as "I hate niggers" and "gas the kikes" but in reality all I want is a big black penis. PRAISE KEK
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>>129736226
not in america because i hate black people
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>>129737996
The people actually behind the push for $15 understand exactly what they're doing. Its unions of fastfood drones who turn out in support at their little protest marches.
You don't need a crystal ball to see whats happening.

The push for $15 is a hardline push for Communism. These people absolutely will lose their jobs. They're not a fit for university, or even trade schools. They're going to be dependent upon state assistance in a major way, and they'll vote for continually expanded welfare. This is the same as the Universal Basic Income tripe being promoted by (((intellectuals)))
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>>129737736
Yeah because they totally werent gonna introduce those things under the current wage structure.

Oh wait, they are. So the idea that 15 dollar wage makes those appear is illogical. Whether or 15 is viable is unrelated to the existence of self-service machines.
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>>129736226
Minimum wage is a state issue.
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>>129737736
Yep. This is free market being free market.
It finds a problem it solves it.

Communism beat's it over the head, drags it out of its house in the middle of the night and pretends it never existed.
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>>129738032
>except the free market

Freudian slip is spot on...
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>>129737996
>Jobs like this shouldn't be made into a career.

For some people, that's all they'll ever be able to attain. Wouldn't you rather Tyrone be able to live on his shitty McJob where at least he's being marginally productive to society, rather than be out in the streets selling crack?
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>>129736226
>ree i need more money for doing something a machine could do
>posted from iPhone 7s+ SE
>geotagged at Starbucks

if we give them $15 an hour in 5 years it'll be "we need $20 now"
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>>129737736
>>129736543
>>129736849
Turns out thread was already based before i got here

>>129737218
Kek
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>>129738575
Actually autocorrect, but then again device built by Communist.. Conspiracy!
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There should be no federal minimum wage. This is something that is better put into practice by local governments.
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>>129736226
I think it would be a fun experiment. If it was raised to $15, businesses would have to rely on fewer, but higher quality employees, and it would also make these shitty jobs more attractive to young white people looking for workforce experience.
In other words, fast-food chains would probably lay off most of their incompetent, lazy niggers and rely on more honest, hard-working white people. Nogs aren't worth $15.
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Ever notice how it's only retail workers 'fighting' for a higher minimum wage. They already get paid for doing effectively nothing, and they want more. It's the same mentality of welfare niggers with even more entitlement.
Retail workers are worse than fucking NEETS.
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>>129736226
I disagree because they should be fighting for affordable housing and fighting for better career opportunities. Wanting to work at mcdonalds forever at $15 an hour is ridiculous.
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>>129738162
the kikes
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>>129738162
Gangster Desciple
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>>129738575
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>>129736226
Fuck that, I support universal basic income combined with additional tax brackets being created at the high end.
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>>129736543
this

minimun wage is only good to make people unemployed
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>>129738902
here, at least, there are loopholes/programs that allow businesses to pay their foreign import employees less than minimum wage. Basically you become their tardhandler while they adapt to a new country and pocket some of their wages
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>>129738162

The 9th Street Bankerz
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>>129736226
No, just think about what it'll do to the supply and demand not to mention there will be more people on welfare. They'll increase the taxes to feed the leaches and more leaches means more people shilling for communism and voting for GIBS. Sure just let it burn. I want Texas to succeed so bad.
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>>129738922
depends on the job you're doing
retail work can be mind numbingly tedious and physically tiring

I think white collar fags are mad because they're on a salary and if you divide the number of hours worked by the salary it comes out less than $15 an hour or something
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>>129736226
Not all businesses are created equally so how could a poor start up business compete with the million dollar+ corporations? Get all the facts before you start mouthing off.
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>>129736226
No because it devalues everyone else who chose to pursue meaningful jobs/careers. The closer you currently are to $15/hr the more it'll hurt you
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>>129738274
>low skilled minimum wage jobs that a monkey could do
>nig nogs want a higher wage
>not gibs
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>>129736226
Well nigger when you were slaves you got all your accommodations and food for free and you didn't need a bus pass but you weren't happy. Now that you're free you can't stop bitching either

Does the nigger truly have no desire to do anything besides sit on its ass?
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>>129738294
The devices are fine, you tap in exactly what you want and the frycooks go down the list you created and check items off, so they literall cannot fuck it up or mishear you or anything.
R2D2 is perfect, Tyrone can take his $15 demands and fuck off.
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>>129738658
I strongly suspect that some raise in the minimum wage would offset welfare to some extent. And long term benefits are also worth considering.

>tyrone maintains mcjob, get some level of store managerial promotion.

>tyrone's familial conditions improve, his kids see a marked change vs their welfare counterparts. Go to trade schools and become brickies/handymen etc..

>tyrone's line now more functional due to mcjob
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>>129739164
After watching some of Peterson's videos, I've realized Canada is far more fucked than I originally thought. You have some fucking draconian laws that look like they came right out of 1984.
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>>129736226

HANS GET THE GAS
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>>129736226
pay should be determined by skill not some government scumbag
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No


t. fastfood cook
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>>129738747
Exactly
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>>129738065

In a lot of the urban/metro areas its a direct response to the ridiculous rise of the cost of housing. It's rising disproportionately compared to wages. People can't afford to live in the places they are to do the jobs they're being paid for.

So other than cap the price of housing or raise the wages, what do you do?
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>>129736888
Actually this will be nescesary here when $50 CAD is worth $5 USD
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>>129736226
worked at McDonald's (in bongland) for 5+ years
> you get a free large meal for a shift over 6 hours (and plenty oppertunity to steal more)
> McDs used to have a union but the leaders disolved it in exchange for for more holiday pay (no one cared)
> becuase there was no union it was rly easy to get out if disaplinaies using the "no one told me your not aloud to do that" excuse or being a minority ( my mate got out of choking a woman cos he was the only black guy there)
> rly easy to work high, drunk or generally get away with not doing much.

what im trying to say is nothing i did there that was worth 15$ an hour and i was free to leave when ever i wanted.
i was just more concern with other things in my life the job was just something to keep me busy rly.
if a shitty min wage job is your only option i feel bad for you but dont think you need more money just more focus in your life.
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>>129739304
>minimum wage increase will noticeably drive up inflation
A meme, anon.
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>>129736849
They also don't climb even if they can reach the minimum. We are lacking education to rise up. I don't know how someone can go from McDonalds in his late teens early 20s to something better these days.
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McDonald's employees are the only fast food employees around here i wouldn't mind if they got 15/hr.

While their food isn't that great, they are the only fast food place not to consistently fuck my order up or serve cold food.
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>>129738922
>Ever notice how it's only people who are paid less than a living wage who complain about not making a living wage
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>>129739339
An increase in minimum wages is a decrease in the number of workers a company can afford to employ, or it gets so high they all get fucked off and C3PO takes over instead
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>>129736226

Yes mostly because inflation puts the old minimum wage at least that high. Second we cannot seem to get a free market going because politicians cuck to get the businesses in the first place. Remove all the special deal bullshit and you can remove a minimum wage.
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>>129739082
*lol* saved.
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>>129736226
>mcdonalds just moves everyone to part time shifts. Eliminates some jobs and merges others.
Solved the problem in OP's pic. Now none of the people making those decisions will be working full time
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>>129736226

TREAT ME LIKE A PIRATE AN GIVE ME THAT BOOTY
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>>129739499
Build more housing.
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>>129738162

The Heebs.
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Want $15 an hour?

Then ask your boss for a raise.

Tell him or her that if you don't start making $15 an hour, you're quitting.

That's it. That's literally all you have to do.
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>>129739334
>you tap in exactly what you want
That's the problem I'm talking about, too much tapping. A customer generally has a favourite order they get, making a faster order means more orders can be fulfilled.
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>>129737608
"If market forces can't determine the value of labor then the state is functionally destroying the most vital aspect of the market.
A healthy economy, and country lacking a welfare state, wouldn't produce massive droves of unskilled individuals who spend their whole lives in entry level positions. This paradigm is a direct result of our malady of government meddling. We'd also have a stronger currency, and individual spending power would be higher, which inherently negates the necessity of higher wages."

Everything used to be as you described before globalism. The real problem with the economy is globalism but nobody wants to admit globalism is a retarded failed experiment because (((they))) benifit from it
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Completely automated fast food restaurants are coming. But the government is making them come sooner by foolishly distorting the labor market.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/03/09/genius-burger-flipping-robot-replaces-humans-first-day-work/
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>>129739663
Why doesn't everyone get a sweet delicious tripcode? Almost as awesome as black cock.
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This McDonald's employee could pay $19.50 a week instead of $27.00 by buying a monthly pass, saving a total of $30.00 a month. This idiot has nobody to blame but himself for his poor choices.
https://www.metrostlouis.org/fares-and-passes/
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>>129739353
it's so far fucked from the bedrock up, and yet somehow so well hidden and obscured

all of us here are indoctrinated from youth on a variety of subjects including how fucking awful white colonialism was and all that jazz. i was well into my later teenage years when i realized Louis Riel is a total fucking nobody outside of the classroom whereas in school you're trained to believe he's some kind of world-class hero for simply dying as a Metis man with a little bit of defiance in his attitude.

all that bullshit amounted to was some kind of reverse streisand effect where I'm perpetually annoyed by natives and the french
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http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2017/05/24/fmr-mcdonalds-ceo-fight-for-15-movement-is-falling-apart.html
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>>129736226
If you have no education or experience and can only get a shitty entry-level job, you should not expect to be able to live a luxurious lifestyle. Get a roommate or two, share expenses, don't buy stupid shit.

Worthless retards expect to be able to live a middle-class lifestyle with a low-level mcjob. Jacking up the minimum wage to this level is going to put restaurants out of business and force automated replacements, thus destroying many of the low-skill jobs that these people need to survive. I believe that this push for a ridiculous minimum wage is meant to force the rise of automation, paving the way for a push for Universal Basic Income and thus complete government control over the finances of every citizen.

Tl;dr niggers and jews ruining everything again.
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>>129736226
>star of david
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>>129736226
Why does that dindu have a fucking Star of David around his neck.
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>>129736543
>>129736849
>>129736888
>almost every developed western country has a minimum wage or collective agreement for a wage around $15
>works completely fine

>"DUDE LMAO YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS"

really makes you think
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the higher the minimum wage, increases the living expenses and tax
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>>129739499
So raise the wage so less people work?
Thatll work.
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buy a bike and stop getting jewed by public transit nigga
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>>129738162
The government
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>>129739220
>underrated
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>>129739713
And he will then bring in a TFW who will do the job for a slave wage

This shit doesn't work under globalism. The real problem with wages and inaffordability is fucking globalism and the fact NO FUCKING BODY ever goes after globalism pisses me the fuck off
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>>129736226
>muh 15 dollar minimum wage
Hope you enjoy robots doing your job
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>>129739499
Cost of living increase in urban areas is a good thing for the local area. It offsets the federally mandated section 8 slums, and helps drive out the crime.
If section 8 slums didn't exist the housing market would be more stable, and there would be more affordable housing for middle class working citizens. Though the ghettos just tends to move, the black population isn't shrinking fast enough.

The issue at its core is government intervention to begin with. The market needs to reach its own homeostasis. The welfare state needs to end. The federal reserve needs to be destroyed, and power of coinage needs to return to the people.
We're living under a house of cards and adding bandaids on top of bandaids isn't an answer.
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>>129739769
And that pic is why these companies probably funded the 15 an hour BS
Get a bunch of tards to run around pissing everyone off so when they get replaced, no one cares, fuck em, they deserve it.
Can you imagine the backlash of laying all these people off if it wasn't for the 15 an hour BS they pulled?
lol useful idiots
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>>129736226
"I work an entry level job and I don't make a lot of money."
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>>129736226
If your trying to survive off a summer job that's your fault. Clearly you fucked up your life. Instead of giving out money we need to tell people this is exactly you need education in a program that'll actually give you a job, engineering, a trade, medical, and so on. Being an artist or a philosopher won't give you shit.
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Yall acting like they wouldnt have replaced these workers with robots even if they only paid em $5 an hour. Automation is the past present and future. Its only a matter of time till it starts hitting white collar jobs; good decent jobs are replaced with algorithms and computer programs.

Im curious about the effect of increased spending power amongst the poor. Would businesses actually see an increase in business because poor people spend all there money or would those profits get eaten away by increased wages.
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>>129739726
>a faster order means more orders can be fulfilled.
Generally it seems that the speed of the cook/prepping guy is the limiting factor rather than the customer, but some sort of membership card with your ready-to-go favourites would be pretty neat.
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no
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>>129739921
And none of them have had their labour devalued by uncontrolled immigration.

Well maybe recently but that's going to fuck ye up hard in the coming years.
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>>129739564
Same, worked at a Wendy's for a year when I was in high school. Absolutely nothing I did required any serious mental or physical effort. I was fucking astonished that they paid me as much as they did
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>>129739921
If your labor is worth $9/hour and you demand $15/hour you will receive $0/hour. The minimum wage will always be $0. The business will either replace you, move, or close.
The laws of economics supersede the laws of government.
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>>129739887
WE WUZ JOOZ N SHIIIIEEET MAYNE
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>>129739503
>The fucking nazi says a minimum wage is needed
IMAGIN MUH SHOCK
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>>129740159

>getting replaced by a TFW

Is there no greater shame?
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>>129736226
i support a raise in the federal min wage but not 15 dollars
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>>129736888
>working for less
nope.
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>>129736226
Sure, if they want the highest black areas, (the south) who have as low as possible minimum wages due to their economy, going completly under and creating a massive rioting hoard of poor dumb people.
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>>129739921
You have more important things to worry about Sven. Sweden will not be a developed country for much longer.
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>>129739677

One of the issue is people buying up what should be affordable housing and sitting on it vacant until they build more un-affordable housing on top of it. Another issue is that there are foreign investors buying housing, both affordable and not, and leaving it vacant.

The short term bandage that people seem to decide on is to raise the wage to follow the boom rather than cap the boom to supplement the wage.

They're building a ridiculous amount where I reside and yet the rent has still gone up 20% in a year..
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>>129738294
>>129740326
>>129739726
cards are a pointless waste of money nowadays. there will be an app where you can store your favorites or select what you want ahead of time, and then just scan the barcode and it'll show up on the machine and you just confirm/submit. even places like taco bell let you order through your phone already and pick up in the drive thru.
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Every time I deal with a store clerk, it's a net negative. They're all so fucking retarded. They have no communication skills, not technical skills, nothing. All this will do is make McDonald's appealing to more white people, and the niggers and spics will just collect welfare because they don't have 15/hr skills.

>let me have a large coffee with 2 creams thats it
>large coffee with 2 creams any sugar?
>i already complete the order, why are you pushing sugar on me you fucking loser?
>large coffee with 2 creams anything else?
>no, I already said "That's it" why are you asking me if I want anything else?
Fuck these morons, I'd rather use a touch screen
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>>129739841
It used to be possible to save up to BUY a decent apartment off a paper route before globalism happened. That's what my grandfather did saved up from grade 10-12 bought apartment got a job at the mill saved up over 2 years after which he bought a house and got married. Meanwhile citizens nowadays can't even afford to buy a tin shack even while making six figures

Blame globalism pushed by the kikes. They said it would be the ultimate in prosperity but in reality the exact opposite happened.
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>>129736226
Min wage is about 15 bucks an hour here. You pay 35 percent of that in taxes. A bus pass will cost you 50 to 150 bucks a month depending on how many zones you need. A beer is min 5 bucks in a bar, a six pack at the grocery store runs you ten bucks. I spend easily 500 a month on food and I am thrifty. A tiny one bedroom flat will cost you about 1000 bucks a month minimum.

At least my taxes pay for hospital and education.
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>>129738422
not to their growth, moron. It will be that much cheaper to just install machines. thousands of employees will be too expensive to be employed and be replaced with machines within 2 years...then what?
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>>129736226
No it just makes my hard earned money worth less and eliminates jobs.
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>>129740004
>buy a bike
>nigger
Pick one
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>>129736226
>>129736580
>>129737608
>>129738274
(volume warning in first 5 seconds) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPShGzCiXBk
case closed
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>>129736226
Raising the minimum wage is like putting a band-aid on a bullet wound
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>>129739921
>>works completely fine
Yes, except for the fact that $15 in your shitty shariastan is worth less than $7 in the USA.

Do you really not understand the concept of 'inflation'?
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>>129736226

No, because it's attempting to pass the buck on to an entity that has alternatives for avoiding its intended effect.

I -would- have said that the government should provide payment for credit hours at an educational institution instead, but unfortunately those have become far-left hugbox echo chambers instead of places where we acquire the skills necessary to enter the workforce.

Free market is also impossible now thanks to (((globalism))); the 1%'s just going to put their shit somewhere it can't be touched. Only remaining solution's violence; I'm just left wondering about the whens, wheres and whos.
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>>129740646
I wasn't but still. If (((globalists))) oils replace us all with low paid slaves they would
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>>129736226
He gets an employee discount right?
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>>129739921
you don't even have minimum wage you damn cuck
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>>129736226
Don't support it because the fuckers wouldn't even give me a job
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>>129736226
>1 post by this ID

STOP REPLYING
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>>129736654
We do actually.
>>129736799
> Implying human staff isn't robotic
>>129737864
Cost of living is a different matter -- at least for me.
I live in Minnesota so stuff is cheap if you know where to look.
>>129737994
This. Also for cost of living, some people can't easily get by on $7.25 (or whatever the fuck it is now)
>>129740503
>>129739564
Same when I worked at Starbucks
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>>129736226
yes I am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFOJnehGGN0
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>>129736226
I think a minimum wage increase is needed but not to 15 an hour. 10 or 11 would be just fine
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>>129736226
wtf is this bullshit, I lived off american minimum wage equivalent for years, and Iceland is 5x as expensive as the US
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>>129739824
Yeah, it's no wonder people in the western world feel disenfranchised when they're taught to be ashamed of their history from birth.

They've tried that shit here in Norway as well, but it hasn't worked as well as it has in other countries. Most of the attempts at shaming revolve around the Sami people, who were taken from their parents and forcibly integrated into Norwegian society back in the day, and the goddamn kikes who accuse Norway of being collaborators during WW2, because the Norwegian police helped round up Jews during the Nazi occupation. The Jews actually managed to get reparations from Norway over WW2. Imagine that. We were occupied by Nazi Germany, and we're supposed to pay reparations to the Jews for what the German occupiers did.

That being said, Norway has managed to become one of the most nationalistic countries in Europe thanks to our history. We spent several hundred years in involuntary unions with Sweden and Denmark, and were occupied by the Germans during WW2. This has resulted in a form of nationalism that is so closely tied to the concept of freedom from oppression that everyone just accepts it. Not saying things aren't fucked. They're just less fucked than in the rest of the western world.
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>>129738422
Increase in labor costs will make these devices more feasible, quicker ROI etc, so they will appear faster. They will appear regardless but paying someone $15 an hour for a job a literal retarded person can do seems excessive.
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>>129736226
people who support 15 dollar minimum wage are the same people that wonder why we don't just print more money. prove me wrong. protip: you can't
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>>129740958
Exactly

The real problem is globalism. The wages we have now would be fucking huge by the standards of 20 years ago yet 20 years ago the average people could afford a lot more than they can now because there is no longer a local market that makes things for its own citizens and keeps them at what they can afford instead we have a new Jew global market and if the local people can't pay $10 million for that tin shack instead of lowering the price they'll find some rich chink who will
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>>129741038
When would he use an employee discount? He works at McDonalds not KFC
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A black jew? That's a first.
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>>129736543
>the workers weren't going to be replaced by machines anyway

But let's keep subsidizing the low wages of employers because muh free market. Better yet, let's just let people who work 40 hours+ a week starve.
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>>129739295
white collar fag here. i make WAY more than $15 per hour, and WAY WAY more if divided by the amount of time i actually work on average during the day (posting from work right now)

$15 minimum wage is simply retarded because the government is poorly stepping in to do what voluntary unions could do way more effectively in a glorious ancap society
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>>129736226
I'm perfectly fine with min wage being brought up, but the issue is job security and expenses that come afterwards. If employers are required to keep all their employees after the change and businesses are forced to keep prices the same, then it'll work.

I'm working 17$ an hour currently and I don't want my life fucked because some burger flipper is now making 2$ less an hour then me. My wage turns to fucking garbage if that happens while everything with a price tag is brought up to compensate. That's the only reason I oppose this.
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>>129741207
>stupid song that starts by describing himself getting arrested like the fucking degenerate he is
not an argument.

see>>129740947
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>>129739921
>Doesn't understand currency exchange rates
>Does t understand I flatiron
>Doesn't u Der stand automation of low skill jobs
Achmed pls go
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>>129736554
Crips. 6 pointed star. But I don't think that's why he has it.
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>>129741270
It's $9.50 per hour in my state. Which is just fine in my opinion.
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Wages should be set by the market. Government needs to fuck off and worry about doing what they're supposed to do.
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>>129737994
>what is hyperinflation
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>>129741395
They're also the same retards who go "why can't we just have no borders" while in reality globalism is THE reason people can't afford fuck all now
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>>129736226
I support minimum wage because I can use this instead of talking to a nigger.
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>>129738922
t. never worked retail or probably any other job
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It's a good start, but what we ultimately need is abolition of the wage system, profit, and all. Workers should earn all the fruits of their labor, not just what the boss gives them.
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>>129737072
What isn't mentioned is the shitty budgeting by these same people
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>>129736226
don't employees get free meals? i looked up some McWork here for the summer and you seem to get at least one meal a work day, also the pay isn't even that bad for flipping fucking burgers.
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>>129736226
Should be 1 gagillion dollars an hour.
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Minimun wage in brazil in dollars is only 282$. That's what i get.
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>>129740536
WE WUZ HEEEBROOOZ MANG!!!
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>>129740512
then explain why it hasnt done so in western european countires : ^)

>>129740997
not true, food prices are pretty much the same and so are most other normal outcomes. The only difference is that gas and electricity is cheaper in the US

>>129741042
True, but we have unions that force companies to give workers a decent salary.

For example, I work in retail and make $15/hr, except on weekends where I make 100% extra so $30/hr, and late evenings and early mornings i make 50% extra.

That's the same in retail in all of Sweden, and companies here are doing just fine. But you Americans are too big cucks to corporations that you would rather see Mr. Goldstein making a few extra million a year than having the workers live good lives.
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>>129738747
Also
>Whos going to pay back my $60k loan for my degree in african women studies?
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>red pill
$15 minimum wage is a way to normalize usury in white businesses, red pilled know I preach that gorilla dick nigga truth
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>>129741792
Cook burgers in your own house then
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YES, these people should demand 15 bucks, get replaced by robots, and starve
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>>129736226
Supporrt, AUS has 16.88 and mcdonalds turns profit.
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>>129740783
Honestly, me too. I just want the screen to be clean and not greasy.
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>>129742008
And how much tax do you pay on that and your bonus rate Mr big shot retailer? What's your avg cost per square foot in a "go zone" area money bags?
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>>129742188
Minimum wage should be $15.
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>>129740795
The absurd increase in housing prices is possibly the greatest threat to young people today in general. Earlier generations could almost expect to be able to get themselves a modest home with a reasonable job, but youth today have almost universally given up. The prices of even small apartments are utterly beyond the reach of the vast majority of young people.

The solution is not to force businesses to throw huge amounts of money at waiters and stockboys, however. The solution is to address the price of housing. Cap the boom, don't inflate the economy further in an attempt to chase it.
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>>129740823
I rather have low taxes and no gov't paid stuff.
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>>129742434
>inflate ghe evonomy
Minimum sage doesnt inflate anything
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How expensive is it to live in Ameristan anyway? Like what would let's say 4k do for you per month?
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>muh living wage
>muh can't raise a family on minimum wage
Maybe because you're not supposed to do that. Maybe that's because those jobs are for dumbfuck kids living with mum and dad.
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>>129736226
There's people dieing of hunger and malnutrition around the world and this nigger jew wants 15 $ an hour for flipping burgers and messing up my orders
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>>129742434
>absurd increase in housing
>anywhere that's not the coast you can rent a house or studio for 400 bucks if you are patient
>you can buy property with a down payment of 4 grand
>you can buy a house with a down payment of 15 grand
they are dumb enough to drown themselves in debt and live above their means, its a crisis alright... a crisis of terrible decision making skills.
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>>129742659
>Force every business owner to massively increase payroll costs
>No effect on prices of goods and services

Wow.
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>>129736226
Either you start taxing the 1% much higher and give that money directly to poor people or you raise the minimum wage. That's it. There's no other options. There will be no cucking to big business and corporations; the temporarily embarrassed millionaires of /pol/ have essentially invalidated the Republican party in the mind of the public for the next twenty years with their joke of a president.

Democrats have demographics and the media on their side and poor people know their wages are stretching less and less with every passing year. Burger flippers are going to get theirs and all you will be able to do is impotently cry about niggers on anonymous anime imageforums. You're done.
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>>129736226
wages should have been increasing at the same rate of inflation ever since minimum wage was a thing

it doesn't make any sense why they wouldn't do this since its the same value in pay you get for the same work
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>>129736408
He is probably Hispanic and evangelical. They love jews and wear thw star often.
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>>129742758
Depends where you live. In Seattle, 1000/month would get you a 250 square foot micro apartment with coin-op laundry in the basement and no parking.

1000/mo in the south would get you a nice apartment
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>>129742758
4k dollars per month here in BR you are rich man.
300 per month a midle class house, 1k a richs one. 200 a car.. 200 water and eletricity... the rest you do whatever you want
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>>129743128
>Democrats have demographics and the media on their side and poor people know their wages are stretching less and less with every passing year. Burger flippers are going to get theirs and all you will be able to do is impotently cry about niggers on anonymous anime imageforums. You're done.

he thinks democrats will actually help the poor
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>>129736226
No. It's price fixing.
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>>129737736

This is the future, though.

Flooding the country with so called "refugees" is a the attempt to delay this.
And yes, as automation will in most cases have a very high initial cost and very long term payoff, having a pool of cheap manual labor to pick from is still the more economic decision. Especially as they can be laid off with little consequence and the public then has the responsibility for the masses of unemployed.
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Whenever I click the Like button, the picture just gets smaller
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>>129742302
>And how much tax do you pay on that

Before tax ~23000, after tax ~18000
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>>129736226
15USD is 56.12 Polish Zloty here, for fucks sake, you need some more socialism
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>spend 2 hours waging and get 15 dollars
I wouldn't want it raised if the Canadian dollar was still worth something thanks liberal government
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>it rides the bus
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>>129743297
Do you not follow politics very closely? Democrats made raising the minimum wage a part of their campaign platform in 2016
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How can you justify a living wage for fucking up orders, having an attitude and being incapableable of making change?
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>>129736226
I make 15 an hour doing work at fedex ground, these people do not work half as hard as I do and the damage it would do to the economy would kill small business
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>>129743178
>23 square meters for 1k a month
Dear God, I'm renting 55 square meters for 200 euros here
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>>129736226
>boss raises wages
>boss fires employees to keep profit margin
>workers left are forced to work longer or face unemployment too
Really ups my quality of life
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>>129743692
>he still thinks democrats will actually help the poor
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>>129743981
Space in Seattle is a lot more valuable than anywhere in Serbia though
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>>129737864
I also live in Iowa, bretty comfy. Isnt our minimum wage going up soon?
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I'm still living with my parents thanks to all the fucking cali shitheads that moved here because of legal weed, a place that me and my friends rented in college for 900 a month is now 1,500 or more a month. You do not want to be a renter in CO right now you want to own property
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>minimum wage goes to $15/hour
>mass unemployment as fast food workers get replaced with robots
Great plan.
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>>129736799
>robot employees
you mean self service touch screens
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>>129739499
Build more housing and stop government meddling and ignore environmentalists
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>>129744226
Just wanted to see what that minimum wage would translate to here. It would be like 500$ a month, which would still be way too high for shit tier jobs.

Tell your niggers to stop dreaming.
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>>129744135
>fucking over the poor actually helps them
Democrats are hardly saints but they obviously they care about poor people much more than Republicans, who are fine with gutting healthcare and tacitly killing thousands upon thousands of people.

If you can't pick up on this then you're probably not educated enough to discuss politics
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>>129744442
Stupid reactionary filth.
$15 minimum period.
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>>129736226
>worked wendy's
>mininum wage
>all my coworkers are completely obese single moms
>they all make enough for a new car, new phone, and enough food to become obese
>expect 15$ while putting the bare mininum effort into life
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>>129741512

>How dare you cross the picket line, you'll never flip burgers in this town again kid!
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>>129744675
>They care about the poor poeple
They care about keeping them unemployed and reliant on the government, you're a faggot KYS
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>>129744675
Only National Socialists care about peoples rights and their well being.
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>>129744902
Left cucks
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Maybe the nigger shoud end up high school.

>higher wages
>inflation
>more expensive rents
>10 years passed
>I can't live with 15 hour anymore OMG
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>>129744675
>claim to support poor
>force people to buy health insurance that only covers once they've hit a huge deductible when they don't need it
>make cut-off for govt support at a level that drives would-be-lower-middle-class people into poverty
>THESE PEOPLE NEED $15 AN HOUR TO PAY FOR THE THINGS WE'RE FORCING THEM TO BUY

democrat logic
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>>129744902
It's pretty easy to manage to care about people when you've gassed everyone you don't like
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>>129738274
you are the fucking idiot libtard
you understand that the niggers are working small hours and pay limit so they can stay on free healthcare and get free government assistance?
you think these fuckers even want 15$ an hour? give me a fucking break.
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>>129743308

Oh, and for the record, I support minimum wage, but this should be a natural phenomenon, the result of high demand for labor though to scarcity of it.
Brought on by a shrinking population. I see basically no downside in this except a temporary demand insocial services for old people. This can be dealt with either by automation too (robots) or TEMPORARY work permissions. Best of all this is actually happening.

Except that western governments - basically in toto - do the complete opposite and flood their countries with genetic trash that will not do anything but suck up social welfare.
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Tyler Durden: I see all this potential, and I see it squandered. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables - slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war... Our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.
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>>129736226
For fuck's sake.. you can really tell that these fucking retards are expecting themselves to work in the fast food branch their entire lives.
Sad.
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so this is what american minimum wage looks like in yuropoors, literally for burger flipping.

i had an entry level job as an engineer in one of austria's biggest companies 3 years ago before i went to uni and didn't even get 2200 €. before taxes, i might add.

i am sure there is something not quite right here.
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>>129736556
thats a tank of gas for me and i go through 3 a month during the summer
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>>129745510
i swear i loaded the pic...
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>>129736408
Rothschilds like taunting us
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>>129740775
As someone who used to live in Miami, a cocktail of rich foreign owners and retirees bought a lot of the housing and (ofc) sat on them, making the housing market in Miami aboslutely terrible. I think that there should be a limit on how many properties that foreigners can buy like:
>1 property per city, but it must be occupied by a tenant or the owner himself

>tl;dr: we should put limits on foreign home ownership because of the situations in Miami and Vancouver
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>>129744902
State shall limit renting costs to $300 maximum, state shall complete housing market and make law giving everyone a house for them to start family paid for with no mortgage but incremental payments or increases taxes, partially nationalize all corporations that rely on state redources, put everyone to profuction and worm with state employment in factories, farms, infastructure, labor and such..
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>>129743502
So you pay 22% on low pay I pay 15% or so including state on $78k. If it works for you fine but you should understand why people dont want the same things and why governments try to squeeze more $ out of their populations. Whats the next level that your tax jumps?
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>>129737391
Any job is a career you moron.
They are synonymous.

My mom worked as a cashier for 20 years, even got a 401k retirement plan at it. Thats a career.
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>>129736335
FPBP
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>>129736226
remove tips stupid niggers
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Good
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>>129736226
I support it because it will lead to poverty of minimum wage workers and prove socialism is shit.

My kids will be fine, they can work for me.
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>>129745819
I like making extra money just like how you like extra cock in your ass faggot
>tipping should be optional, not required
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>>129736226
Heavily against.
"You get what you work for" comes to mind. Low skill work should be a stepping stone to something better. If I can make 15 an hour just preparinf shitty food for people, why should I bother even trying to get a better job?
Not only that, but gibs try and tax the companies creating these jobs at much higher rates than the average joe. So not only do I have to pay people crazy amounts of money for shit work, but I am paying higher taxes also.

>No thanks
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>>129736637
>i wonder who could be behind this
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>>129736226
Tree fiddy
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>>129736226

Anyone that supports it has never worked a min wage job before; they're piss easy

T. Guy that makes 15/hr
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>>129736226
I don't support a $15 minimum wage, but I do support a $250 minimum wage.
>>
J
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>>129736226
How about bringing back manufacturing that gave comfy wages?
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27$ for a day pass lmao how is that even possible
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>>129736408
>>129738162
Folk Nation. Pretty popular when I was growing up in eastern NC
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>>129743176
What the fuck are you on about you retard you're.thinking fucking whites, since when was there an influx of evangelical hispanics anywhere.
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>>129738243
for someone calling others retarded you can't even rotate a picture properly
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>>129736226
Against. They work fine in cities and expensive states but fuck over any area that isn't big. Especially a jump to 15 dollars
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>>129736226
Hold up.
How the fuck is this kid both a nigger and a jew?
All the jews I know wouldn't fuck a nigger even if you paid them.
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>>129736226

The day I see a minimum wage worker make intelligent choices with the meager amount of money they do have, is the day I support 15 dollar minimum wage.
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>>129737747
>nigger
>bitching
You can't have 1 without the other
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>>129736226
This is just another tactic to tear down the west.
This increase will only creat a wider rift between the upper and lower class while further diminishing the middle class.
This will cause many lower class people to lose jobs, it will increase hiring of illegal aliens, and it will cause massive inflation.
This has been piloted in Portland and it has completely decimated their restaurant industry.
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>>129745510
The standard wage in Norway if you work in a grocery store or at McDonald's is roughly $15. Granted, that doesn't take into account the fact that we have higher taxes and higher living costs than the US.
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>>129741204
I live in MN and make 14.25 at a call center. Great pay and fuck all these stupid chimps screaming about their 15 bucks
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>>129736226
If those fast food chimps deserve $15 an hour then I should get at least $18 for working deliveries for a construction retail outlet. Spend all day moving bags of cement and lumber by hand and getting it ready for pickup.
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>>129740297
Its not a question of if it would happen, but when. With this current government meddling, the conversion to automation is happening quicker which reduces the amount of time for the economy to adapt to the new situation the markets are in. (there is a whole side discussion about how other government meddling is ruining the ability of the economy to adapt).

When an employer sees his bottom line shrink he isnt going to be thinking about the increased spending power of his employees, he is going to be thinking about which of his employees have showed the correct work habits to warrant not immediately firing. That or to what price he can raise his products to offset the cost. As such there can be no real gain in purchasing power, if anything it would be a net loss.
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>>129746780
Retarded faggot.
If you arent giving wages, or recoeving minimum you should have no rights to speak about minimum.
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>>129736226
This sounds good
add some free healthcare and you got something going
>where i live, they give no more than 20 hours so they don't ahve to give healthcare. so people work 3 jobs, one to pay for half of a normal job another for the ohter andthe other for the free healthcare they have the priveledge to pay for since they dont get one.
now full-time work should get 15 hours.

then no jobs should be allowed to give less than 20 hours a month in one week to any worker.
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>>129736226
Well they do have a point. Of course one should try to improve their station but not always possible. Most of these people also get low income help with rent food and utilities. Guess who pays for that? It would prolly be cheaper for all of us to give them 15.
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>>129746902
No obviously minimum wage should be 0.10 cents like in indua abd you are paid a dollar an hour but so long as others make less than me huh.
Its a slide to the bottom, lmao at "deserve" you deserve bread and water from employers if they could.
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>>129741446
This. And don't forget what flooding the labor market with millions of unwashed shit skins has done for wages and prices as well.
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>>129738145
They don't take tips*
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>>129738922
I worked retail. While the job was physically demanding, I had zero responsibility. Any upset customers or errors from other employees I would just shoot to managers. We were limited anyway so that was basically all I could do in any given situation.
In my new job, supervisors do fuck all except sign my paycheck. Any angry customers I have to deal with myself, and I'm given way more responsibilities than before. But I get paid for it all, so it's great.
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>>129747678
"All of us give them"
Yourw not giving anything.
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>>129736226
I think if you can't afford you live on minimum wage you should strive to get a job that pays more. Fucking losers.

Please don't act like working fucking fast food is a hard job.
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>>129736226

Dude there are guys I go to college with right now who have several engineering courses under their belt and they still all get minimum wage jobs. Kind of funny to see some menial task worker asking for 15 when employers wont even give guys who went to college 15.

just saying.
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>>129736226

>Seven day pass

>Not buying a month

Here on Boston is like a 20 dollars saving difference between weekly and monthly.
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>>129748003
>Yourw not giving anything.
Indirectly in a sense by supporting fast food, etc. I doubt if 15 will work due to automation and reduced hours. I just suggested it would be less of a burden on taxpayers because of all the assistance low wage earners get. And the ones who have kids? That takes it to another level.
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>>129748176
How is it funny?
There is no logical reason for workers to not be paid $15 an hour, it doesnt affect you. >>129748338
Minimum wage is 16.88 in australia big mac costs
>>129748680
Yes pwople should have large families and any job should pay enough for a large fanily, a house, and decent living.
You can be an enemy of workers which you are while we are a peoples workers party.
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If $15 per hour is good, lets make it $500 per hour, amirite?
>nigger economic theory
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>>129748918
>what do we want
We want for the 200 million people making extremely less than the minimum in australia to have a decent living.
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>>129747170
First and foremost, that is an appeal to authority. My statements are and can be true regardless of if I am currently making minimum wage or if I am a wage distributor.
Please provide an argument that isn't an insult and a distraction.
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Over 100 dollars a month for a bus pass?
Ride a bike or walk?
Hell i spend that in gas a month. 50 mile round trip to work. I make 10.17 an hour part time and I pay my bills and typically put away 200-300 dollars a month in savings.
Master jew though.
10 dollar phone bill.
72 dollar insurance bill (drops every year, should be 50 bucks in a couple years)
28 dollar water bill (minimum)
15 bucks a month for trash (paid quarterly)
50 bucks or less for electric
150 a month for food.
25 a month for taxes on land
So 350 bucks a month in bills.
I take home around 1000 a month.
If i didn't own land I would go back to living in my car like I did before.
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>>129736408
There are black jews....
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>>129749423
500$ affects the collection of profits you retarded reactionary, $15 is the minimum from the profits collected by workers, you wont decide anything the 150 million people+ making less than $15 an hour will make another labor revolt.
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Aren't franchised stores still left to fend for themselves though? If that specific store isn't making profits; they don't get money from the franchise company but they still have to pay them fees
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>>129749556
Then they should provide a value to the work place that is equal to the amount they would like to be paid.
Big Mac construction is not a trade worth $15 an hour.
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>>129749877
So forcing every store to pay 15/hr is ludicrous
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>>129749858
Where are you getting your numbers from. How is $15 per hour the magic number?
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>>129748918

I'm not against minimum wage, what I'am against is guys who turn screwdrivers and flip burgers expecting $15 an hour when there are people out there who went to college, who actually use their brains who are getting paid peanuts. Basically if you are going to raise minimum wage for the burger flipper, you better also raise the wage for the guy running a machine with very tight tolerances, which will not happen. I sure as hell should be making the same as some nigger making burgers, which will soon be replaced by robots, yet we continue to import these menial task workers when screw turning jobs are fucking off at alarming rates.
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>>129739499
Move to a different area.
Rents and prices are higher because people are willing to pay it. You may not be willing to pay for it but someone else is.
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>>129749713
I forgot to add, I have healthcare, dental, vision and injury insurance for 45 bucks a month. Taken out before the 1000 a month.
Also get roughly 800 dollars a year in quarterly bonuses. These people need to get gud.
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>>129749556
Everything costs an arm and a leg in Australia. You have the wrong flag you commie fucking piece of shit.

This is why optional flags are cancerous.
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>>129750030
>Where are you getting your numbers from
Her ass.
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>>129736226
Minimum wages should be set, if that minimum wage should be 15, based on the cost of living, then yes I support that.

I don't agree with subsiding poorly run businesses with my tax dollars. When these people don't get paid a living wage I have to pay more in taxes for food stamps, health care, education, housing assistance, and child care programs.

Libertarians and Austrian school retards should be fucking gassed for being so stupid. They claim to hate the welfare state yet they actively support policies that expand the size of the welfare state.
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>>129750043
Minimum wage is the reason why outsourcing and illegal alien labor exists. It creates a black market for labor.
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>>129750043
I dont care what you are against, I am for all workers to be paid good wages and to have enough for a family house and decent living youbare quite clearly an enemy of tge poor and workers.
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>>129750296
You are conflating minimum wage with a living wage. Why should it be an employer responsibility to ensure your lifestyle?
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>>129749858
If there should be a minimum wage at all, it should be a state issue. What it takes to live in California is a world apart from Nebraska, you dumbfuck.
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>>129750043
I know this feel. As a worker who makes slightly above minimum wage I view minimum wage hikes as me losing money. Costs go up, my pay remains the same and some burger flipping faggot makes more money without earning it. Little shit is still on food stamps and the rest of us pay from increased cost of goods and services. Minimum wage is subsidized by other people.
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This wont happen,
just like they wont
tax the rich
the last rich tax they tried to do, i rmember they went on and on bullshit then go theres no reason to
end
>inb4 durrrrrhhhhh something something its fair anyway to the people its done against but i wont speak about the people who do it
>durr my capatilism
>durr my free market
>durrhh my private federal reseve that is the cause of social security
nothing will do about shit for anything to do anything you guys are so stupid and the dumb shit asnwers
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>>129750454
There should be a limit on rent or qn abolition of it.
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>>129750301
How will all the workers be housed?
Who will build these homes?
Why is it the employers responsibility to ensure your wants?
Why isn't it the workers responsibility to become educated/skilled enough to create the lifestyle they desire?
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>>129750561
Boy, the natsocs sure sound like commies, even though they'll call me names and cry that they're different.
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>>129750301
Don't work a job for children as your career then. Fucking faggot.
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>>129736226
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>>129750561
Why does the landlord have to have his wages and profits cut? Why is he being punished for the workers choice of employment?
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>>129750672
"How will workers be housed"
From their wages, or state will build 300 million houses and flats in all cities.
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>>129736226
Wage suppression compared to inflation is out of control , 15 bucks an hour is barely worth getting out of bed for , if you have a real job .
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>>129750824
The landlord should get another job not one for children, what a loser, he didnt deserve that.
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>>129750841
How do these comments and replies waste your computers respurces?
Maybe you should stop using a 486 and windows 95 for workgroups.
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>>129736654
Pretty much every employer provides or subsidizes public transportation for their employees. It was inconvenient, but I could get a cheap pass for the trains in Chicago from my job.
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>>129750413
The living wage is the minimum wage, you're splitting hairs.

Why should I as a taxpayer be responsible to support your business? If a business cant compete paying a living wage then they should close the fuck down, rather than create this hypocritical belief that you can underpay someone then turn around and call them scum for being on food stamps or housing assistance.

Fuck the welfare state. Businesses need to pay their people a just wage so we can shrink these programs and stop putting the burden on the taxpayer for what private businesses (who are only interested in making money) decide to do.
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You guys forget about the well fair cliff, nigs hate making 15 a hour

http://www.learnliberty.org/blog/the-welfare-cliff-and-why-many-low-income-workers-will-never-overcome-poverty/
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>>129751067
you support spyware by your comments and not caring about a computer resources you want to waste for businesses and corporations to build spyware and run their shit on your computer
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yes, yes fight over your crumbs you blue pilled faggots.

t. CEO, CFO
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>>129750926
So the workers wages will go to the state. If that's the case why not just give the money straight to the state and eliminate wages all together?
how will the state pay to create this housing?
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>>129751065
So the landlord must get a new job, despite his investment, work and maintenance of his property. But an unskilled laborer ought not better himself?
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>>129744815

That's because they're also on welfare.
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>>129751067
whats the point
>>129751274
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>>129751181
That's not true. Minimum wage is not living wage. One is controlled by employers the other controlled by the commodity pricing of what twe want and need.
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>>129750413
they don't have to ensure it, but if u want workers who will give a fuck about your business and lower turn over rates, you'd give them the very bare minimum to live on.
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>>129745173

>"democrat logic"

That's the same thing as fairy dust.

Actually fairy dust is real compared to that.
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>>129736226
If he is fighting to change the minimum age of consent, I'm in!

Can't we just chamge the whole meaning of that hashtag and "movement"?

Even when the minimum is 12 in my country
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>>129751623
That's not the employers responsibility. It's yours. If ou can't afford to do something then don't do it. If you aren't able to afford necessities, you need to take a step back and learn a skill or trade that will help you make ends meet.
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>>129751286
Because the wages belong to the people not the state, the state takes what is neccessary to fund state programs such as eliminating all the landlords or enploying them as building administrators, and worling to building everyone homes and the population increases home and paying the workers involved good wages.
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>>129736408
they wuz the original isarelites n sheeit
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>>129751431
Yes the landlord needs to ho to school and get a job thats good for the ecobomy, loser.
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>>129752012
That is full blown communism.
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>>129752376
You dont even know what is communism.
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>>129752135
So the landlord needs to do that, but a McDonald's employee doesn't need to do that? Why?
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>>129752484
Oh, I didn't know you had the ability to know my thoughts.
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>>129750301

I know you don't care faggot. Good wages will never happen working at mcdonalds when you have these lobbyists paying legal fees for their cheap labor/illegals. You liberals pick one, you can't have it both.

If i'm making slightly above minimum wage with a job that requires training and college and years of experience, and they raise the minimum wage for tyrone at mcdonalds, do you really think the employer for me is going to raise my wage? Of course he's not, the minimum for him will be minimum wage, whatever the law allows, but you faggots don't care, you really believe you should be making the same as me when you haven't even tried to get out of your situation. Fuck you.

You are not going to get a family house and decent living working at mcdonalds, whether in 1980 or 2080. Now if you said you had a trade and worked somewhere and wanted more, that would have made more sense, but you faggots want to become baller rich working at autzone or subway, keep dreaming.

>>129750537
exactly
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>>129739573
Short term vs long term
It takes a bit for it to move through the system but everything consumed that is non elastic (limited supply) will face price inflation. Increase the amount of money someone has to spend and it's inherit worth to that person will decrease. Push this across the system and prices will rise and the short term gains will disappear as the minimum wage earner is still the poorest guy in the room.
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>>129752874
Tell me where youd live.
Price of big mac in australia is not double of big mac usa its like 50 cents more.
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>>129739595
McDonald's is a franchise you get ones and bad ones.
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>>129738145
They take card though, cash is being phased out
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>>129753489
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