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I have become redpilled on the economy, /pol/, and it is making me depressed. I'm on the job market(currently a software project manager, looking to change companies) and I've been to about 20 different companies for interviews, in Boston. I work from home, this is my first time ever going to real offices.

And holy shit I've realized they're all the same. When you're a worker, you're not even human, you're basically just a worker-ant, and every piece of infrastructure in the country is just a tool to deliver laborers or resources from point A to point B. Workers just spending most of their waking hours toiling in the mines(offices), and they don't even know why. You're there all year so you can afford to take a couple weeks vacation, drive a decent car, and live a "comfortable" life with your family(when you're not laboring or commuting, which is most daylight hours).

All the offices I've seen are literally the same. They might be set up differently, but every single one is designed with a goal in mind of keeping workers there the longest and so they can work most efficiently.

And Boston(and every other city, I imagine) is literally set up like SimCity, where the entire goal of the game is to deliver the faceless "population" to their jobs in the most efficient way possible, so that you can afford to build more infrastructure to deliver more workers.

So what is the point of it all, /pol/? Why does humanity work, and why is everything we build purely to do more work? That's the part I can't seem to figure out. Is it all done so we can produce more food? Is it purely out of greed? Is the idea of "doing work" just instinctual?

Help me. I was looking forward to getting a new job, but now being a faceless worker ant makes me sick.
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>>129734973
then just be a farmer nigga lol
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SMOKE WEED AND SHUT UP PUSSY
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>>129734973
Sounds like the opening chapter of the book Unscripted.
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>>129735151
>work 16 hours a day for a peasant lifestyle while the world goes to shit around me

kek
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sounds like 1984
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>>129734973
Read the bible and The Wealth of Nations.

You are destined for big things especially if you are a Christian American. You are the backbone of our world even though you dont get recognized for it.
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>>129734973
>Nu-/pol/ thinks this is a long post
Life and struggle are synonyms anon, the sooner you realize this the sooner you can be successful. Maybe we exist for God or were imprisoned by the demiurge, but the only sure fire thing that we can tell from this life is that we exist to spread our genetic material. Work for the wellbeing of your family and the advancement of your volk.
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In Germany, we have 30 days of paid vacation.
Plus 15 religious holidays.
Plus roughly 100 weekends.

=> almost 150 free days per year
Plus evenings
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>being a wagecuck in 2017
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>>129735714
>This

But not only your family, but for your nation.
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>>129735353
>my post sounds like a book written by a baseball announcer
what
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>>129734973
sounds like you've grown up
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>>129735714
It's not actually a long post, but posts with titles that say Long Post are 80% more likely to get responses

Don't believe me, try it
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>>129734973
Get rid of all loans.
Save every penny.
Live frugally.

After a couple of years you can move to some cheap part of the world and just stare at the horizon.

No kike will have a hold over you or will be able to dictate how much/little you should work for them.
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>>129735610
>read The Wealth of Nations
I don't see the value in this. WoN was written when capitalism still existed. Even as far back as the 1910s, most Americans were self employed. The current situation of wage slavery is reminiscent of feudalism.
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>>129735768
Dont listen to this man. Germany is in the position it is because of this attidude. As Americans, we have the responsibility to carry our great country through our labor.

We didnt get to the top by doing nothing for 15p days.
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>>129736051
Yep, city life it's the devil.
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>>129734973
>Boston(and every other city, I imagine) is literally set up like SimCity
>So what is the point of it all, /pol/?
It's all for the players anon, and we know who they are don't we?
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>>129736088
You can still be self employed. In fact, it is much easier now.
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>>129734973

"Top Down" Perspective will make you realize & see many things.

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/
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>>129734973

tldr

also unsubscribed.
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>>129736092
Didn't we get to the top by not taxing income or property for 150 years, then winning by default thanks to Hitler fucking up and obliterating Yurop?
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>>129735559
>pesant lifestyle?
Don't take advice from metrosexuals. Doing your own thing and not giving a shit about your apartment, who you're wearing, or your car (asking as it's running) is underrated.
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>>129734973
>So what is the point of it all, /pol/? Why does humanity work, and why is everything we build purely to do more work? That's the part I can't seem to figure out. Is it all done so we can produce more food? Is it purely out of greed? Is the idea of "doing work" just instinctual?


How old are you?

Why do you work? To create and support a family, hoping you'll get back love and warmth.

To accumulate wealth in order to achieve your dreams or do a hobby you love.

In order to accumulate wealth to attain freedom. Where you are not depended on anybody else.
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If you are 23 years old, you'll grow out of this angsty post teen phase. If you are older ffs OP man up
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>>129736234
The data would disagree with you.
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>>129734973
Your mistake was choosing a static career which forces you to perform a specific task like developing software. This is not the job market's fault, it's yours. kys pleb
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>>129734973
Hi, I am a Sr. Developer who is also in Boston ... your perception of everything is extremely skewed and inaccurate. You've just been working at home, isolated and alone, for X number of years and you have social atrophy.
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>>129736434
list some careers that don't fall into this trap
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>>129736241
Anonymous5 is Wayne Lambright.
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>>129735821
My nation or filling up some jews swiss bank account? My nation or fo mo programz n shiet? My nation or for more sand wars for israel. If you dont live in hitlers germany, youre just a good goy.
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>>129735790
What should we be then?
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>>129736092
We have the same purchasing power as you do, despite working less.

It's called productivity and investment into labor.
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>>129736409
Just sell shit on ebay it is that fucking easy.
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>>129736559
How edgy.
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>>129736650
my sides
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>>129734973
THE ECONOMY NEEDS TO SHUT DOWN TO SAVE THE SOUTHERN GRASSFINCH

IF A FEW OLD PEOPLE FREEZE TO DEATH BECAUSE OF CARBON TAXES SO WHAT

DEATH TO HUMANS, TREE WAR NOW
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>>129735610
He'll realize that it's all a big distraction. To keep us away from meddling in the ruling classes information that they proudly flaunt all over the internet. I went through a similar type of redpill but more esoteric. Did quite a bit of marketing and FOREX study, Ad agencies and corrupt politicians and zionist agenda's seem to be the main cause of everything.

Also Indivisible and the Kinsey Institute are both connected to elizabeth warren.
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>>129734973
>software project manager
>"I'm an idea guy"
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I'm a welder and I enjoy my work and take pride in my beautiful welds so I don't mind working all the time. Not very materialistic and building things is fun to me. Saving to buy a patch of land and live self sufficiently
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>>129736719
Aww is the widdle wagie gonna ragie?
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>>129736434
You are very wrong, programming is one of the most flexible and marketable skills for the modern times and anyone who doesn't know how to program is the real pleb
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>>129736524
So give me the answer then, why is literally everything we do as a nation or as an economy designed to increase production. Every road that gets laid, every building built, every law passed is for the purposes of getting work done more efficiently...

why? what is the end-game? what's at the end of the tunnel?
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>>129734973
There is no point to it.
You are Bill Gates nigger cattle.
Fucking MIT nigger thinks he is relevant.
Enjoy your slavery.
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>>129736531
Doctor
Teacher
Prosecutor
Police Officer
Fireman
EMT

In other words, literally anything that is inherently rewarding and/or exciting and dynamic. It's important that it be inherently rewarding and not just specifically rewarding to you because once you take your passion (e.g. software design) and turn it into a career, it becomes a drag.
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>>129736803
not sure what you mean, all i do is crack the whip on developers and go to meetings
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The point is to live and procreate and make sure they have the opportunity to succeed. I'm Christian but I also have secular opinions on a lot of things.

>go to work
>my wife goes to work
>looking for a home
>have children after we get that home
>raise them well and to be God fearing
>hope they continue the process
>pray

That's how we do things OP. Humans have always had to work. I don't get why people think we didn't have to. We've achieved so much luxury with this modern lifestyle. We used to have to hunt and gather. Then we farmed and raised livestock. Then we went into the mines and mills. Now we're in offices. It's progression of the average work that we've always had to do.
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>>129736951
This is why OP is miserable. He chose a career based on what was most "marketable" instead of what would actually fulfill him
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>>129737175
>>129736434
>missing the point of the post, that said EVERYONE is part of the machine, because basically everything the state does is to increase the work that gets done
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>>129737455
That's fake news, I studied CS because I actually enjoy working on technology.

I enjoy my job, I'm miserable because I just realized that I don't know what the endgame of the economy is.
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>>129734973

We work the way we do *because it's been a successful strategy in helping us to grow our population.

The end result is proliferation of our genes as a species. As to why that is the goal of all life? Take it up with whoever programmed the laws and framework of our universe.
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>>129737481
not every single job is pleb tier cubicle slave
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>>129737929
But you are just a tool to drive bigger businesses forward, completely dependent on them.
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>And Boston(and every other city, I imagine) is literally set up like SimCity, where the entire goal of the game is to deliver the faceless "population" to their jobs in the most efficient way possible, so that you can afford to build more infrastructure to deliver more workers.
>Boston...is literally set up...to deliver the faceless "population" to their jobs in the most efficient way possible

This alone should discredit everything OP has said
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>>129736753
Nah man its true.
Have na aquaintance who travels around, takes shit and sells it on ebay for profit.
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>>129737689
There is no endgame. It's to produce and then produce some more. You're having an existential crisis because you're trapped in a shitty office all day "omg it's all the same all the offices are the same we're all just like worker ants". What about chefs? What about journalists? What about skydiving instructors? Most people DON'T work in an office, retard.
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>>129738291
>What about chefs?
great if you want to stand all day long, every day of the week, covered in sweat and with an aching back. not uncommon to work 70 hour weeks as a chef, and good luck taking time off.
> What about journalists?
dead profession, desu
> What about skydiving instructors?
If you're happy making $40k a year a lot of doors open to you
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Now do you understand why people want socialism.
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>>129735559 It isn’t work if you enjoy it.
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>>129738520
I've been a cook and it's a fucking blast if you're into it. Chefs are genuinely passionate about it.
>if you're happy making 40k a year a lot of doors open for you
This is why your life sucks. muh shekels
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>>129738703
what have any communist societies ever done to address those things?
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>>129734973
Oh I'm sorry. Did you think life was solely for your enjoyment?

Life is hard and it's shit for ever thing that's alive. Look at how brutal nature is. We do all this bs to protect ourselves from nature.
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>>129735714 The problem is in today’s system most of the money goes to some rich CEO’s offshore bank account. It doesn’t go to the people.
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>>129735768
Holy shit that's almost half the year not working! That's awesome
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>why does humanity work
That's not your real question. What you want to know is why YOU'RE working. You need a goal, I recommend starting a family and saving enough money for early retirement.
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>>129739008 I don’t know, but the horrors of capitalism is worse then the horrors of communism.
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>>129735559
>>129735559
> 16 hours a day

wrong
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>>129735768
Plus over 50% of what you earn is taken from you to support all those refugees :^)
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>>129739424
It´s all because all the fucking shills are not happy under oligarchic rule of their puppet masters
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>>129738703
Lol like no one starves in the state of nature. What dreck
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>>129734973
All in all we're all just a brick in the wall...
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>>129734973
I suggest you look at things another way. You are not your job. It does not define you as a person. It is simply a means to an end, that end being a paycheck so you can afford and fund the life style you want for yourself. Maybe you're into movies or video games or whatever. Doing those things outside of work is a perfectly valid way to spend your time and money. Do what makes you happy. We live in an unprecedented age of wealth, security, and entertainment. You aren't a peasant clawing at the dirt all summer to grow the crops you eat during the winter in your shitty 1-room dirt-floor hovel. You aren't a human automaton on the assembly line in a 19th century factory when the owner would rather you die of exhaustion than pay you the pennies of your wages. You aren't some street rat hobo begging for change from uncaring pedestrians so you can afford a Big Mac at McDonald's so you don't starve that day.

Instead, you've got prospects, a home, food, security, comfort, and entertainment. It might not be much in your eyes, and it may seem trivial or pointless or mundane, but put things in perspective. It's not so bad. I'm not saying don't strive to improve your lot if you're not satisfied, but be real for a second; a boring office job isn't the end of the fucking world. Take it easy, dude, and good luck to you.
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>>129735559
>peasant
Peasant implies working and toiling for someone else's behalf. What you're doing now is more peasantry than someone who grows their own food. What do you value more; your liberty or petty creature comforts? If the latter, return to your serf lifestyle of bluetooth connected sandals that report your foot sweat cortisol content to 100 private corporations and the NSA, if you value your freedom heed the words of Ted Kaczynski: Montanas semper liberi.
The things you own end up owning you. By doing without the latest finery, you will realize what is important, and be happier that you don't need to dedicate entire paychecks to replacing crap every year, to having to keep up with the jones', to prostrate yourself before the system just so you can eject out the existence it tells you is the one you want.
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>>129734973
we're all toiling away at our various jobs and living our various lived with the communal purpose of one day reaching the Singularity, becoming one with each other, and with God. if you look at the rate of technological progress in the past 50 years, and how insanely it's increasing compared to the millennia before it, you'll realize: it's a lot closer than you'd think.
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>>129735151
I am having the same thoughts, I live in the suburbs but recently visited rural Tennessee and I love the natural world so much, I am reconsidering being an engineer. At the end of the day, happiness is more important than wealth. Being encompassed in nature and feeling a connection to the land is something I now am dreaming of having.
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>>129741115
You retards are missing the point of the post.

I'm asking, on the MACRO level, what is driving society to focus entirely on the economy?

I'm happy with my job, fuck.
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>>129741489
Oh, my mistake.

I don't think, on a macro level, there really is a specific goal other than just improving our immediate conditions. I think everyone is just doing what they can to advance their own personal positions, and whatever advancements they make to improve themselves tend to spill over and benefit us as a whole. In other words, there is no central plan, society is just the sum of millions of little plans all being followed simultaneously. Perhaps you could say that one benefit of constant improvement is the increase in wealth and power to use as a reserve should we ever encounter a new, unforeseen problem. We can't see everything in existence, so if we stop when we don't see anymore problems, we leave ourselves vulnerable to problems that exist but which we are currently unaware of due to limited knowledge and/or perception.
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>>129741489
I answered your question above faggot
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>>129736605
Rich
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>>129741969
good post, thanks
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“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel,”
"Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat,"
"With gentiles, it will be like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew,”
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>>129734973

Sounds like white collar work isn't your cup of tea anymore and you need something to feel accomplished.

I went through that same crisis and it's quite easily medicated through fitness and lifting weights.
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>>129738703
Only "people" in 3 world shittholes die and that's a good thing
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>>129739917

It actually goes to boomers.
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>>129734973
Yeah working sucks and there's no real way around it unless you get a big movement of people to change it.
Well of course you're going to feel like a drone you picked an office career man. If you're that upset by it look for other prospects elsewhere. And thing about the offices, well no shit bro company's want you to be there it saves them the effort of hiring someone else who might fuck up the rhythm they have going.
Well we could sit here all day talking about why it all turned out like this and then later start going from political philosophy to just philosophy in general but to save us the time or get the ball rolling I would say that it's busy work. I mean what else would a mass amount of people do all day if no one worked.
>>129741489
Not sure what Macro fully means but I guess nothing. You see everyone doing the same thing so you do the same. You would be surprised with how many people don't really question things.
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comrade do i have news for you
there's a pretty good book written by some bearded guy
you should give it a read
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>>129741489
the egyptian built pyramids for a reason
we live in a society for winners
and winners need human capital to look down upon and lord over
it's the nature of life ever since
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>>129741969
exactly... we can't see the overarching purpose of our actions, and even our lives, just as the termite cannot understand its reason for living. yet, somehow, with nobody giving orders or leading the workers, they build structures like pic related to live in. they're insanely space-efficient and structurally sound, a marvel of engineering... but again, there's no foreman overseeing the construction project, no architect planning the structure out. yet, they build a complex structure to live in communally.

humans are similar in nature, but we are a much more advanced and intelligent species. we are the chosen species of this planet, blessed with the ability to reason about the nature of the world around us, create insane technology, and even acquire the ability to look inwards upon ourselves, reflect upon our own nature, and, with enough discipline, mentally reprogram certain aspects of our own individual behavior.

as such, what fate could possibly be our end goal but a Singularity whereupon we merge our species' minds together and become one with God?

if you can't imagine such a thing, don't worry, you're just a termite.
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It's just emergent systems skewed by distributed personality traits.

Most people aren't very creative. Either they just don't have the biologic capability or it's suppressed by bad habits. An office or factory setting is the only way they can be economically productive and live a good life.

For those who do have strongly creative personalities, it's hell.

Look at IQ distributions (strongly related to creativity) and economic success and you'll have a pretty good idea of how rare these exceptions are. Schools or any other factory setting bent on large scale economic production is not going to cater to those single digit percentages.

They're just there to make the 100 IQ +/- 1SD people capable of actually producing something useful.

The monotomy of anything that scales that much will be detestable to you if you're around the 1% in the distribution.
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>>129739008
>>129734973

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3LA_VkDTYo
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>>129744036
and I don't know the solution. Become an entrepreneur or other creative, sure. Good luck because the chance of actual success in creative fields is depressing. So we're screwed either way.
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>>129734973
Looks like the perfect time for you to take the Vargpill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoKqJMrIDuo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QvL9tAdPT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5rhPQoJrhM
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>>129741489
All human activity derives from energetic exchange. Money is fueled by energetic exchange, business is fueled by energetic exchange, your car is fueled by energetic exchange, rituals are fueled by energetic exchange, and so on. Currency stores energy as a talisman, that's why it's covered in magical symbols.

All human activity is directed to work for two reasons. The first is 'pleasant servitude'. It was discovered that honey works better than vinegar for slaves, so now you have your honey in the form of entertainment. Your toil is to pay off the energetic exchange that was needed to build the slaveowning system. That 'money' was, via financial wizardly, pulled from the future essentially (in very gross terms). That's why there's more debt than money that can exist, it's the power of fractional reserve banking.

You're working because your owners wanted slaves and paid for you on a loan based off your future work's energetic output. Incidentally, this is also why it's illegal to kill yourself. You don't belong to you.

Welcome to Earth.
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>>129744036
nailed it, except you didn't mention that the struggles creative people face lead a scant chosen few of them to greatly succeed and affect the human race in some non-trivial way.

or at least, that's how it has been up until now. with an always-connected global communications network in our pockets at all times, anyone can anonymously and instantaneously spread their memes all over the world. if I was born just a decade earlier, I would have to be lucky enough to end up being a very privileged celebrity or politician to acquire such memetic reach.

as it stands, I am passing my memes onto everyone reading this post. it's up to you to filter my words through your own highly-evolved logical faculties and determine whether or not there is truth to what I am saying. but at least my memes had the chance to reach you to begin with; a few decades ago, such power was highly controlled and given to a very chosen few. a few centuries before that, and you'd be lucky to spread your memes to anyone outside your village.

progress is accelerating at a borderline alarming pace. the Singularity draws near.
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>>129734973
when everyone blindly believes stupid shit like evolution, globe earth, global warming, and similar, this is what you get

you accepted a belief that you're just a spec of dust on another spec of dust in a vast universe, literally created from apes, and now you're fucking surprised everyone acts like a dumb zombie?

you bought a fairy tale and bought it so hard you actually get angry when a reasonable person tries to get to your shitty retarded mind that the earth is flat and that the whole globe thing is a fraud

enjoy it and stop whining, you fucking ape
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>>129734973
Move the fuck out of the city, run your own shit, and help small businesses. I'm an uneducated (self proclaimed) software architect, stand by my work not some piece of paper any fool who attends can pretty much get. 13 years now, used to be a tradesman before that...
I rarely have went in to a small business that I can't automate shit and improve their bottom line. Since women are worthless I usually target what they do and automate their job, so they lose their job in the end, and I really try not to automate good men's jobs if possible. And when you save a business owner millions, sometimes 10s or 100s of millions, they are just fine with paying you a good chunk of that change to make that happen. Contract signed! BOOM.
Fuck being a unimportant worker bee for big business in a shitbox city, be your own man, your own boss, and make your own way. I do have some major big fish clients as well, and they'd love to have me "on staff", but I tell them there is more to life than playing dress up, acting PC, attending "workplace diversity" meetings, and wasting your life in a grey cubicle.
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Looks like you have gained class consciousness.
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>>129736092
I agree, being complacent is fucking niggertier
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>>129736241
why do you constantly larp in fucking threads that aren't yours kys you faggot
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>>129735559
When order completely collapses, you and your family will have food and other resources needed to live, and there will be some distance between you and the starving, spiteful, miserable hordes.
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Why haven't you taken the /forkilift/ pill?

>relaxing work
>redpilled blue collar co-workers
>can make decent money with the right company
>most forklifts have radios so you can listen to music
>automation is a meme unless you work in some giant super-clean warehouse where everything is hyper organized

There is a forklift with your name on it, fucking Toyota, Clark, Hyster, CAT, Daewoo, fucking whatever, lots of diversity in forklifts
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>>129736650
no look up steemit
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>>129746099
Sounds awesome. How did you get your first clients?
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>>129736867
This is my goal, hey anon can you point me in a direction to apprenticeship for welding?
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Are you finally ready to take the real redpill?
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>>129747268
Stalin was a cool guy.
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>>129747229
Automation is a meme unless you work in some giant super-clean warehouse where everything is hyper organized

I work at an industrial site and everything is a massive disorganized clusterfuck, you would basically have to make a robot human to deal with everything that pops up and and that point pretty much every job would be automated
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>>129734973
you work your ass as hard as you can and compete with millions of engineers from all over the world just to get 5 or 6 six figure,most of them will be wasted on living costs, so (((they))) can earn 8 and 9 figure without even understanding any shit or doing ACTUALLY anything. Welcome to the real world, you're either a master or a slave, no third option.
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>>129738520
You just seem to not have any passion for life at all? If you don't like anything at all and you are just looking for money you will end up at an office job. You're fucked.
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50 years of waking up every monday morning at 5 am feeling tired while Mr. Skecklestein is too busy looking for a coke dealer who is up on a monday morning while a nice plump 17 year old Latina cooks himself some eggs in her panties that are swallowed by her asscheeks.

And researchers and public officials are bewildered why there are a lot of people dying from OD'ing
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>>129739424
bahahahahah 1/10 cause you made me laugh
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>>129748091
No, I like having the free time and money to enjoy leisure and hobbies.
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>>129735714
Flags were a mistake
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>>129748256
Such as what? You DO realize life was never about leisure and hobbies right? We are lucky today. Don't get me wrong. I HATE office jobs. I would kill myself before being stuck in one all day. But I do enjoy what I do, guess what it is... a wageslave job working at a local coffee store. But thats because I enjoy talking to people and having plenty of time off if I want it because it doesn't require that much of me. You have to set your life up the way you want it.
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>>129740182 We have enough food to feed everyone. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-holt-gimenez/world-hunger_b_1463429.html
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>>129748529

https://archive.is/9uAFR
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>>129748529
>implying anyone on this board wants to feed anyone in 3rd world shitholes...
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Glad to see here so many people who have correctly identified the problem and made the proper choice of pursuit of happiness as the goal in life as opposed to the life of cattle manifested in accumulating wealth. As Aristotle has taught us.
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>>129736312
America was already the richest nation on Earth. America already had the largest navy on Earth, contrary to popular belief that it was Great Britain. America was already set to be what it was and is today, it just had to be proactive. Germany changed nothing for America aside from making it take a more active role in world affairs.
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>>129748519
No, I believe anthropologists are pretty confident that pre-agricultural society was a life of leisure.
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uhm the market works for you too, marxist. whenever you need something, there it is, for a price.
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>>129747519
Companies like yours will be the first to go.
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>>129746972
I literally went around to small businesses in business districts, or wrote letters of interest (a lot of them), telling them of my capabilities and that I more than likely could improve their efficiency in areas of their business, especially in the office area of their business or anything that used computer technology. Offered a free evaluation of their business and at the end of that evaluation that I could either propose a plan for greater efficiency or that I could not if thier business was at optimal efficiency already, and that evaluation would be free of charge. Either way, it would only consume a little of their time, and it was risk free for them. Also always mentioned a non-compete agreement if they wanted to, if they were concerned about me getting to know their business and becoming a competitor.
And this is what I call "setting hooks". Once you get your hooks in, you got them. Especially when they start running their business on your designed processes and/or software, then the client never goes away, especially if you have helped them be successful, because every year I am updating things for all of them, or maintaining the system I created. I haven't took a new client on for years because I simply don't have the time for it. I estimate I am busy solid for 10 years looking forward right now. And sometimes it is easy shit like automating spreadsheets with VBA, other times its full on software development, other times it is just refining their process to something different (no tech, just logic).
Nothing is free. Hard work pays off. No one gave me this. I did it. And the moment you stop expecting other people to do shit for you, you just might find the power in yourself to be responsible for yourself.
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>>129736402
If we didn't have this economy, we would be agrarian and work in fields. If we weren't agrarian, we would be hunters gatherers seeking out game and berries, which is work.

Ultimately, we work to be fed. Food security is what our modern society is about... But on top of that, we have other luxuries that make our lives easier and less labor intensive. While it may seem pointless, our work is necessary for survival and comfort and the advancement of humanity beyond simple nutritional needs. We are free from hunger for the first time in human history.
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>>129749106
>pre-agricultural
no such thing, anon.
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>>129734973
We do it so that we can all live and have shit.
I wouldn't mind living in a small primitive village but only if civilization is set back 1000 years or so and the shitskin hordes have been culled.
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>>129737127
We make work more efficient so we can do more of it easier so that we can have more time to dick around on Netflix and text qt grills. If we didn't advance these aspects of our civilization, work would be more time consuming than it is now.
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>>129749106
Even if that is true, that seems to me to be too much leisure.. Now we are getting into subjective territory.
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>>129749214
Wrong, I work in waste management, garbage and toxic waste isn't going anywhere
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>>129741489
Check out The Gamecaller by Tobe Terrell. Related to Finders Cult. It's not at all what you think.

Marion Pettie was trying to "solve" the very issue you describe, and I believe he was on the right track (til he got slandered as a pedophile). There's an incredible amount of very meaningful advice in that book
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>>129734973

be a bartender, paid to hang out
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>>129748519
Life was more fulfilling when dying was easy.
Without that fulfillment we crave leisure and hobbies.
Modern life is not providing what humans need to be who we've always been. It's decay.
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>>129748718

>Implying this doesn’t affect whites

http://www.businessinsider.com/food-prices-have-begun-skyrocketing-in-parts-of-russia-2014-9
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>>129750155
explain
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>>129750287
When you're focused on surviving nothing else matters.
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>>129749988
As if Schopenhauer would wear a fedora. Schopenhauer would have been full Nat. Soc. In fact, contrary to popular belief, Schopenhauer was Hitler's favorite philosopher, not Nietzsche.
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>>129750411
i agree with that..

i think thats why we have a rise in mental illness. has anyone read the book ishmael?
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>>129738119
Doesn't matter if you find your own motivations for doing what you do. We all have to work, even the guys that run the businesses we work for. The only guys that don't are the ones that won the lottery or were able to cash out of a business. Unless you are one of those exceptions, you have to do stuff. And if you have to do stuff, try to find purpose in it... Because there is always a reason to do what you do. I'm a first aid attendant in the waterfront industry. I help my brother workers when they get hurt on the jobs. That's great.
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>>129741489

Endgame of capitalism is slavery, devaluation of the workers skills and abilities to absolute minimum while increased resources to the main guy.

Thus wealth redistrubution to select few individuals who will trap you in the system where you will have to have 2 or 3 jobs for 8 hours to make means to an end with a window of few hours for entertainment and go to sleep.


In other words, legalized slavery.
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>>129749385
Unless you live in Africa
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>>129750668
But capitalism gives people the opportunity to become THAT guy at the top. No one said it was perfect. But communism is going to fail as well. Except there is no room to move up. Communism will still have a few people at the top.
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>>129750287
it was a hell of a lot simpler. you woke up when you had to, and did what you had to until it was ok to stop doing it.

compared to present day, where we wake up when we are told to go do something we don't want to do, then go home and spend the rest of our day doing some "hobby" which is actually just our repressed instrinctual desires unconsciously seeping out. Either that or sit on the couch and receive government prorgamming.

it was simpler, really. People are simple
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>>129750606
Mental illness is poorly defined these days and healthy individuals get labeled as ill while the obviously retarded get a platform to scream from.
As far as survival goes, retards are dead weight. When times get tough they are the ones that have to be let go.
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>>129750505

He was the first philosopher to be openly and explisedly atheist..
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>>129734973
Oh like you're the first faggot to ever come to this conclusion. How about offing yourself since 100 years ago you'd likely be dead already
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>>129750668
Communism sounds like slavery to me.
Being equal with everyone means you're just a slave to the ruling party or will of the people. In it's ideal form it is rule by lowest common denominator.
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>>129751103
You aren't wrong there. I just think that people have the ability to do what they want in life a lot more than they are lead on to believe. While it may be difficult there isn't anything from stopping you from going somewhere and working on a farm.

>>129751153
I agree with this to an extent. Of course the liberals today are fucking ill. But people like schizo and anxiety disorders come from not having a purpose (in my opinion)
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>>129751044
The problem is most people don't want to be the person at the top.

the people who are most qualified to lead typically have no desire to, because leading requires controlling, and they would rather spend their time doing something more worthwhile.
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>>129734973
It takes work to keep the structures of modern society in shape. You want to enjoy the benefits of the modern society ? Then you have to aid in the upkeep.
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>>129734973
>Find /comfy/ minimum wage job or go full neet
>Move into affordable income housing
>Laugh at all the wagekeks wasting their life doing pointless labor
>Meanwhile up to 75% of your day is free to do whatever you want
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>>129751720
>do whatever you want
>can't afford to do anything you want
>live in a shithole

lel
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>>129751518
Working on a farm doesn't negate any of what I said. You are still somebody's bitch.

I think the larger problem with this all is the lack of any sense of community. How you feel towards your employer is fundamentally the only difference between slavery and employment. Even shit jobs can be fulfilling if you believe in what you are doing and are appreciated by coworkers and management. Most companies these days are entirely soulless

Decent human relationships are the key to everything. There is currently a shortage
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>>129734973
Take your pills, anon.
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>>129734973

Don't worry, we will make robots that can do all the work so we can live a more fulfilling life.

Until that day comes, choose a job that's going to last longer without being replaced by a bot (software development is one, lucky you), and build your bunker for the trasition period, because that's when you're going to get hordes of unemployed people invading pharmacies, government buildings and stores.

http://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/digital-mckinsey/our-insights/where-machines-could-replace-humans-and-where-they-cant-yet
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>>129734973
we ge it tyler
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>>129751044
>>129751468

You two should stop associating everything with gommunism. My grandfather had lost a house and his land from commies. They stormed into his house when he was 16, took his shirt and thrown him into snow and yelled " For the people".

I am the last to espouse communists.
On the other hand I still have the right to criticize capitalism at it's end game. And when you have Schlomo at capitalism you are still a feudalistic piglet.

Communism sounds nice on a paper, but will never be enforceable imo because of human factor.

Scandinavian model with people who have strong moral code and sense of belonging ( I guess nat soc ) is a lot better.

I would like from other anons input, if with advance of A.I. and robots, we could replace them for 90% of jobs and get money for them. Something like Bitcoin was created with mining on desktops.
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>>129747229
Completely false, most sites can't handle it. Automation really is a joke.
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>>129752545
>Scandinavian model with people who have strong moral code and sense of belonging ( I guess nat soc ) is a lot better.
Now this is a classical example of so-called bullshit. I have worked with companies in Sweden (though I was located in Germany) and they in no way differ from what OP described.
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>>129751720
>Nigger DETECTED
Or how about actually figuring out how to make money doing something you like doing, and you will actually feel a sense of pride in your life and have happiness, rather than being a fucking worthless leech living like a poor serf off of guys like me.
Can't stand people like you. If I want to take the day off I can, but it is a wasted fucking day then imo. Oh and I can afford the VIP spots in vegas right next to the hedge managers VIPs, only difference is the women in my VIP are hotter than theirs. And no, if you have a penis you can't come in my VIP, and if you have a vagina you have to be super hot to get in my VIP.
Enjoy your section 8 and your bus pass.
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>>129734973
Sounds to me like you'd be happier in a smaller town. I lived in LA and in a small town (very very small) and I prefer the small towns now.
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>>129749106
Freezing to death on the European ice sheet while following herds of wooly mammoth and being stalked by sabre tooth tigers was fucking great, dude.

Fun Fact: Everything in nature wants to kill us and human civilization has adapted itself to get as far away from your leisurely pre-agrarian nomadic shit show.
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Everyone has their dragons in life. Find your dragons and work towards slaying them. That is what you should live for. Let others do what they do, but your goal should be to articulate and educate yourself to the highest order to become a monster and slay all your dragons
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>>129751605
I agree

>>129752271
True, like I said above. I enjoy my job so it is different. But what is the other alternative for society than working
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>>129752545
I don't think we should be so quick to jump on AI bandwagon. I'm not saying go full Amish and not use any, but when we automated women (via feminism) it produced quite a few nasty side effects. its unreasonable to think variations of that wouldnt result with robots

how about instead of building a robot to do something...get this...you find a white chick, fuck her, then raise the child to do the task? maybe could even like, situate yourself in the vicinity of other likeminded couples doing the same thing. all these groups could help each other out, and spend time together. old-timey stuff like that
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>>129750826
No one fucking cares about Africa.
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>>129734973
Consider feudalism, OP. In it, the elite have actual legal and social obligations to maintain the well being of of their subjects (while in capitalism the ruling class are required to do nothing of the sort and as a result many of the poor are simply cast into the street, forced to beg for outside assistance if any is available, or die).

The average work day is much less than today, and you have complete freedom over your free time. Because of its class-stasis, life for the serfs is much more stable than for the proletariat in a capitalist society.

The serfs own the means of production and work, paying taxes and giving product to the lord in return for protection from violence and scarcity. The lords in turn must answer and pay taxes to their monarch.

When the taxes rise to more than 15-20%, historically, the serfs rise up and murder the shit out of the lord and his family.

Puts things into perspective, doesn't it.
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>>129753156
Cool, and bone records show that human health declined substantially following the advent of agriculture.
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>>129753711
there is no alternative to working. it's just the kind of work you choose to do. and who you do it for.

I think a lot of people get jaded. People always joke about working at Wendy's, which is probably a pretty shitty job, so Ill go with that example.

but imagine if Wendy was on-preimse every single day, and knew all of the employees by name. Her husband was the head cook. everybody received minimum wage, but Wendy would always be willing to lend you some extra if you were hurting. the beef was sourced from a local farm, and everyone from the butcher to the truck driver was a resident of the town in which Wendy's was located.

which Wendy's would you prefer to work at, even though technically the work would be identical?
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>>129754067
Mostly due to poor nutrition because grains are shit... But after the development of agriculture, we also created culture, civilization and advanced technology.

Technology so advanced that it allows me to call you a fucking moron by touching my fingers on a five inch screen. Would you rather fight animals until you age out after 35 years or would you rather be shit posting on 4chan?
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>>129753347
Slay your porcelain dragon, india
you dont even need to educate or articulate yourself
JUST POO IN THE LOO!!!
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>>129748206
This is moderately underrated

Best not to think about this t
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>>129734973
>Why does humanity work

You can't be serious, how dumb are you?

We work to get resources so we can fucking survive.

Try not working and see how long you last.
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>>129735559
>thinks Starbucks muffins sprout out of the fucking ground
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>>129753813

A.I. has no conscience, won't suck a dick to get its job, won't spew false rape and won't bitch about diversity.

I see no problems in making slave machines to do our jobs and sharing resources, the only problem is, government would butt it's (((nose))) to distribute them.


Why would I raise children to be worker drones ? We all have capabilities to chase our interests. I want to develop intellectually, spiritually and explore shit and make shit.

Guess what, I can't get enough time nor money to afford tinkering at my house with robots and raspberry pi. I know bunch of high iq people trapped in workhorse narrative. Waking up at 8 am, wasting 3 hours in commute, working 8 hours, and then another 3 hours in commute back.

That is not living. That is hell. You are the only being that has ability think and abstract, and this capability is wasted on millions of people every day for shitty jobs.
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>>129753347
>Giving advice on life
>Entire country shits on their hands and then eats with them in the middle of the road.
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>>129752070
>I have expensive tastes
If you're single and living alone, you can save up a shit ton of money. A lot more then when having to
>Spend money on health insurance
>Spend money on car insurance
>Spend money on _ insurance
>Spend money on property taxes
>Spend money on paying back loans
>Spend money on paying off credit card debt
When you get down to it, wagekeks are the ones with less money to spend AND less time to themselves.
>>129752881
Cool story bro.
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>>129755109
>Would you rather fight animals until you age out after 35 years

funny you bring that up. I worked at an animal shelter for about 4 years. lots of big mean dogs who'd sometimes try and kill each other.

breaking them up satisfied some repressed part of my psyche in a way that very few other thigns can. hunting ALMOST replicates it, same thing with combat sports. but there's rules to those things, codes of conduct. it's not primal.

I unironically would enjoy fighting a large cat in a completely natural setting. Any male who isn't a total pussy would too, whether or not they realize it
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>>129745794
being this fucking stupid, Janez, gas yourself
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>>129734973
You should read The Caves of Steel by Asimov
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>>129755822

it's a slippery slope.

what we consider to be "working" in present day is more in line with slavery. that doesn't mean that anything that vaguely resembles work in any way is slavery. even a miserable job can be incredibly fulfilling if there's a good community to go with it. the problem today is it's basically purely shit jobs, wiht no community to go with it. thus, slavery

do you ever exercise or do you just tinker with computers all day every day? if you do, what sort of exercise? replace that exercise with some form of output-producing manual labor, and continue to spend the rest of your time doing computer stuff.

thats what I'm saying. not everybody wants to do computer shit all day, so forcing them to do that will ultumately lead to the exact scenario were already in .

not to mention, do you really believe you will indefinitely remain better at computer when it comes to tinkering with computers? no red flags here?
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>>129752881
Autism speaks

You're right, he has a nigger-tier personality, but you sound like a fucking total head case
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Took you long enough to realize the obvious.
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>>129756186
I do absolutely nothing at work. I wait for people to hurt themselves and then I help them... But that is something I would do anyway. But when people are not injured, I do nothing. Most days I shit post here and make fun of faggots. I am a professional level lay about. I made $102,000 last year to do just this because I am represented by a good union that makes sure I get paid a good wage.

I get up in the morning, get my drinks and snacks and hole up in this room here and just type posts like these. Sometimes I go outside and watch the lads do their thing. They enjoy it, so to each their own.

I make more than you, I am worth more than you, I have more assets than you and I have more, appreciated, skills than you.

NEETs are the biggest faggots going.
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>>129756371
The anarcho-primitivist ideology is right for you, fampai.
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>>129753963
I'm actually a pretty big fan of enlightened feudalism and guild-based market towns

Too bad we've been brainwashed into thinking it's the epitome of benightedness
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>>129746939

I work in a pipe yard. Sometimes if I am bored, and want to fuck off I just drive around in a fork lift, look at things, pick things up and move them around with no purpose. There are two times no one fucks with you, and you always look busy. Holding a clip board, and riding around on a fork lift. People just assume you have some purpose.
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>>129752513 Because nothing could go wrong with that. http://www.npr.org/2017/05/31/530929951/ohio-sues-drug-companies-over-role-in-creating-opioid-epidemic
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>>129734973
Sounds to me like you're not in a job you like.

Why are you letting others chain you down?
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>>129759452
I typically stay away from movements like that, but just looked that up and do agree with elements of it.

no bullshit, I think that some genetically engineered monsters (like literal monsters, not fucking trannies or other abominations) would do humanity good. I'm pretty sure we actually did fight dragons (dinosaurs) throughout history (hence all the stories), but that's all been covered up to minimize how badass we were.

a 30 foot tall Orc attack certainly would liven up a shift at McDonald', would it not?
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>>129737346
Guess I will just neck myself. Holy shit. One fucking life, no after life and that's how you waste it all. Please kill me
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>>129755822

Why don't you just get a job you like?

Also, why are you commuting 3 hours? Why don't you just live closer?
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>>129734973
>betting on the future
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>>129735610

>t. underage NEET
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>>129760518

Why not just work a fulfilling job and do it the easy way?

Something that makes you feel like you accomplished something worthwhile each day.
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>>129734973
Are you by any chance implying that
>Editor at Shit Magazine
>Software Developer at Software for Software Developers Inc
>Chief Analyst's Analyst at Goldberg Insurance Tech and Innovation
>Chief Woman at Company No One Cares About with "Love" or "Empowerment" in the Name
>Writer at MyBlog.com
>Assistant Assisting Specialist at Consultation Consulting Ltd
>Professional Liberal or Gay Man at Center for Tolerance Policy Institute
>Woman's Advocate at AdvocatesforWomen.com
aren't real jobs?
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>>129735559
you're the peasant, nigger. farmers live the good life.
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>>129734973
Well, my friend, it is time to read Julius Evola and revolt against the modern world.
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>>129760978
he sounds like someone who has never had to commute, nor ever worked a real job.

I have never heard of a professional getting up at 8, let alone one with a 3 hour commute. traffic would be awful.

if youre in a place with no traffic at 8 AM, I find it hard to believe you have to commute 3 hours. anyone with a 3 hour commute in a low populaton area probably has a plane.

so yeah, Id say BS
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>>129734973

> tfw not living the superior NEET life
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>>129756371
True American 10/10
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>>129761394

Don't get me wrong, I aspire to that. I just can't find something I enjoy doing indefinitely. I don't actually work at McDonalds (though I have)
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>>129756371

your 98 pound twink ass would get shredded but it's cute that you LARP on /pol/ like a true queer
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>>129736783
ad agencies are a real tangible threat. It's how they deliberately supress sites like 4chan by not allowing them to have revenue.

They are colluding with paypal who will blacklist anyone the JIDF requests.
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>>129734973
It was all supposed to be for a better world, so that we could find out the mysteries of life and allow people to be happy in the shitty world we had all been thrust into unwillingly. It was supposed to help Humanity rise and conquer, but now it only serves to drag us down and makes us less than Human. Society is now the new cage barring Humanity from progress,and the only thing that will truly break the chains keeping us connected to the frivolous and materialistic ways of the modern world is an utter collapse, so we can rebuild and progress civilization the right way.
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>>129761609

>people who are productive, like their jobs, and make a lot of money are the real losers

Yeah let's all eat our tendies and shitpost instead. Master race.

>>129761629

Only because they live on welfare.

>>129761993

I live in a big city and take the train to work. 45 minutes, occasionally an hour, but I could like closer to downtown if I wanted to. Some people where I work drive, but they have enough money to live really close and drive because they enjoy it or have other people drive them.

If you don't want to commute, live closer. The suburbs suck and rural Americans don't have anything to do worth driving 3 hours for.
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>>129763091
no, it's because they live a life where they can walk around barefoot in perfect grass and sip lemonade while bonding with nature. you are D E L U D E D

slave mind; slave life.
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>>129762614
it would depend who drew first blood. large cats have hollow bones for agility purposes so theyre more fragile than you'd think.

when I worked for the state parks we'd encounter lynx and cougars all the time. 100% chance I could take the lynx, cougar would go 50/50.

If I had a blunt object odds might be tipped in my favor.
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>>129762524

Maybe you're in the wrong field. Have you considered taking your skills to the nonprofit sector? You'll make less, but live alright, and if it's a cause you care about, you'll be very happy.
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>>129759136
I'm fucking nuts. Everyone knows it.
And I love gun fights.
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>>129734973
>greed
this
this is what drives 90% of the population
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>>129735151
That's something that I want to do and am trying to figure out how to get the land. Fuck this rat race shit.
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>>129763313

It's also super dangerous and a completely outdated industry. And they still make their money from government welfare. It's not an actual job.

It's already done primarily by immigrants and a couple of guys driving massive machines. Big companies will be doing all of it in 20 years. Every see a Future Farmers of America conference? Ask those kids how many of them plan to actually be farmers and not just work in agribusiness.
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>>129763091
The only thing that photo is missing is a mushroom cloud. (pic related)
Looks like a hell hole. A big mushroom cloud would improve that area considerably. I'll take my 4 acre lawn and crickets and frogs at night over that fucking noise any day.
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>>129735768
You can use all that lovely free time to push your guts back into your torso after Ahmed diversifies you with the Machete of Peace
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>>129734973
MAKE A SMALL BUSINESS YOU DUMBASSES. MAKE YOUR OWN JOB. BE A JOB CREATOR.

OBVIOUSLY WAGE SLAVING DOESN'T WORK. DUHHHHHH, WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK JEWS MAKE IT THIS WAY? TO FLEECE YOUR DUMB ASS!

MAKE

A

BUSINESS

TODAY

Read this article and stop fucking complaining. If you do this, you'll be rich. If you don't, then you don't deserve success and I laugh at your self-implosion and weakness.
https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/how-to-start-a-small-business-in-a-few-hours.html?cid=readmoretextrev
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>>129763895

>moving from suburbs to being a farmer

Jesus Christ you're headed toward ruining your fucking life dude. Farming is hard and more dangerous than being a cop, fireman, or infantryman. The only way you make money is through government handouts, everyone around you is on meth, and you need to drive an hour to get to a Walmart, where you'll buy literally everything.
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>>129734973
Bitch, I'm a teacher. I don't have to worry about that shit. I find my work meaningful.
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>>129764021

Is it being an unproductive and cultureless drain on society that's making you so insecure?
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>>129763457

yeah I have. I actually worked for a non-profit for awhile, that did restorations of regions that got fucked by environmental catastrophe. it was enjoyable but I got bored of it. I enjoy solving problems, and after too much time somewhwre, the job itself becomes the problem that needs solving.

was thinking about trying to join FBI or some sort of LE branch, as that would seemingly produce an andless stream of unique problems that need to be solved.
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Find a job/trade which gives you more time off
I work 4 on 4 off 11 hour shifts
With 30 days of paid holidays
So basically £50,000 a year
But shift patterns and holidays means I'm off 7 months of the year

You go to work for the same reason built infrastructure
We all have an easier life now
Because people before us built stuff

Africa/most of the world is shit because people don't build for the next generation
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>>129764279
Naw m80. I live in a semi-rural area already, and don't want to farm "conventionally." I'd rather do what Joel Salatin or Gabe Brown do. They farm smarter, not harder. I'm already breeding my own cultivars of crops to be locally adapted.
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>>129734973
Take the farmer with EU gibs redpill. It's the best way of life: you work a few hours and are isolated of all the shit currently going on.
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>>129735610
>bible and The Wealth of Nations.
But not, say, The Theory of Moral Sentiments? Smith was a theologian, if you recall.
>>129735714
>Life and struggle are synonyms
Because daddy hitler said so. Kill yourself, St. Augustine.
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>>129734973
We're just single cell in the hyperorganism that is humanity. You don't care, or are even aware of the single cells in your body that do all the work and make up the gestalt that is you, and modern society operates in a similar way. It is the nature of life to coalesce into something greater, and the whole is more than the sum of its parts. You on your own are insignificant, and will continue to be until the end of your days.
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>>129764263
You think he would treat his employees any different than ur average wage cuck? Not everyone can be a business owner, the system is flawed, there has to be losers for there to be winners.

>dont fall for the jews trap, instead become a jewlord yourself
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>>129735599
The fuck, nobody checked this shit?
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>>129734973

see >>129764263 and manage some software projects
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>>129764847

Well do something. Work is good for you, but you have to find something you like.
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>>129763921
>farmers have machine
total cuck slaveminded jewfed zombie

eating from the trough with the other nigger cattle.
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>>129734973
Everything works so powerful people can control more of the resources and the wealth of the world. They are rich and powerful and get to fuck with the future direction of the world, so they do. this is why you need to reject governments and authority by just doing your own thing and setting up your own economy and ignoring them as much as possible and becomming as self sufficient/community efficent as possible. you have to actually know your neighbors and help each other once you get to rely on daddy government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cynd4AINc70
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>>129734973
i too have seen fight club and office space
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>>129750826
Then you die of AIDS and ebola
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>>129763091
cities are the most degenerate human constructions ever
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>>129734973
That's all obvious. But it beats the hell out of communism.
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>>129763489
i like you
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>>129737222
Trips of Truth.
Office jobs are for lazy people. Most office workers are fat and miserable. Work is by definition a transfer of energy. There's fuck all energy being transferred anywhere from behind a desk.
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>>129734973
>guise wtf guess what
>infrastructure is designed to be EFFICIENT

absolutely abhorrent thread OP
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>>129765414
Lol I give you the answer and you reject it.

Your fault, your mistake, your problem.
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>>129737222
>police officer
>not an office job
dealing with paperwork all the time, boring af

>Fireman
on call

>EMT
on call, shit pay, high work hours sometimes
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National Socialism is sounding comfier and comfier.

I'm a long time Conservative but its beginning to occur to me that Capitalism is just another tool of the Kikes to keep us enslaved to them with debt.

Kill the bankers.
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>>129735714
well contributing to keeping this current system running means the demographic demise of your genetic brothers so thats quite a quandary
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>>129757198
feel free to maintain your cognitive dissonance, but i can assure you that you're a complete fool
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>>129745794
>when everyone blindly believes stupid shit like evolution, globe earth, global warming, and similar, this is what you get
Yep. A dream of an entire country of people is fucking retarded. Plato had it too. It's impossible.
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>>129765414
>employees
>hasn't heard of one-man shops
>is a value-subtracting MBA student who's never had to work a day in their lives
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we should be figuring out how to conquer the stars but instead we are in a zero sum game where people try to burn through the current available resources faster than everyone else because a slight margin temporarily exists and it must be fully exploited for no real overarching purpose other than perpetual motion FUCK CAPITALISM
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>>129737222
>teacher
>rewarding
top kek
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>>129768026
>finite earth theory
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>>129734973
Watch Office space (1999)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151804/
Have a laugh and some beers
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>>129741489

It's a reward system, humans are addicted to reward systems. Everyone needs to gets high on something.
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>>129735768
do you guys get refugee day off or only non whites
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>>129767708
what exactly are you trying to argue here? all i see is appeal to authority and argumentum ad populum.
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>>129768546
Agreeing with you that you can't have a country because you'll always live next to niggers.

it's impossible. No country exists. Just a bunch of niggers who believe anything mixed with men all surviving without speaking.
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>>129763895

Depends on where you live. Land is cheaper out west. You gon' farm or ranch?
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>>129767338
want some redpill?

capitalism is society's take on evolution

Jews are the ancestors of Neanderthals, the ones that decided to leave Antarctica. still possessed the hoarding gene, yet lacked the sense of community and harsh environmental conditions that were the platform on which the hoarding gene became desireable

that's why Jews are so clann-ish. they possess the hoarding gene and tribalist mentality (same with whites), but they no longer struggle. as such, once positive characteristics (like loyalty to your tribe, planing ability, and hoarding gene) have become negative
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>>129768546
IE: dumb niggers believe in globe earth, ergo you cannot live in a working society with them.

cant rely on niggers

just have to run away.
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>>129768739
right, seemed weird, somehow i concluded you were defending plato. good point
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>>129765932

And the only ones worthwhile.

Lol what, of value, has come out of the countryside that can't also be done in cities more efficiently.

Pic related for you troglodytes who say growing food.
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>>129769309
log flumes
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>>129750668

You're screaming at the shadow rather than that which casts it.

In nature, organisms are imbued, by mostly by genetics and less by the environment, with different IQ's and aptitudes.

In a free economic system, those disparate differences will manifest in the form of disparate economic statuses. That is normal and natural.

However, these differences will be exacerbated by those who seek, over the course of decades, to make this free system a rigged system. The current economy and the widening disparity between classes is the result of a collusion between Central Banking, Government, and Corporations who seek to expand their power in a market that is no longer free.

tl:dr it's the Jews.
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>>129734973
>babbys first job
You must be at least 18 to post on this site.
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>>129769309
yeah, imma just crawl out onto the window ledge and harvest these here tomatos instead of driving a great big machine across the field that does it automatically.
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>>129768760
Both. I want to avoid synthetic inputs (fertilizer, biocides, etc...) and doing that requires animals if I don't want to deplete the soil. IMO, farming and ranching should be one operation.
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>>129734973
How have people not noticed this is a troll post?
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>>129769385
it's so obvious and blatant it's allowed to continue

a stubborn golem
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>>129734973
The solution is to be content with gubment gibsmedats living off of the greed and pride of others. Capitalism fosters selfish people, and selfish people deserve to pay for people who know the system is bullshit.
t. not even a commie
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>>129763091
knocking farmer life, posting a picture of a city that isn't even that rad... kys
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>>129764494
Holy shit, that place needs (2) of the related pic.
And a big line of fire upwind just in case. Kill it with fire.
I can't see another house or even the road from my house. Can grow my own crops if I anted to. The way it should be.
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>>129763457
wheres this
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>>129769309
>using buildings that arent in america as an example of buildings in american cities
i pity you, countryside is so much better than cities, its cleaner, quitter, less stressful and more peaceful with less drugs and lower crime and less minorities, also nature hasnt been raped to meet your consumeristic demands and trends ruining the earth in the process

.t montana, countryside is much better than the shitty towns here
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>>129769810
this is not a troll post

OP here
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>>129734973
Anon.. that's not a redpill, that's a black pill. Gotta watch out for those.
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I am a graphic designer and I work from office. I currently work individually at in-house for a market chain in a rural town.

90% I end up doing repetitive tasks, which I don't mind, but what really gets me annoyed is the fact that in-house sales clients have the habit of calling or waltzing into my room to explain shit they could just type in e-mail form and save time.

>"Soooo.... ummm, anon, I want this sales poster... for a furniture dept."
>"What's the content?"
>"Uhhh, just put it like "Holiday sale today, 50% off".... ummm, actually, scratch that.... uhhhh.... make it "Holiday sale........ 50%" off. Yeah, just that, "Holiday sale, 50% off"
>"OK, size?"
>"Uhhh half of A4??"
>"You mean A5?"
>"Correct, Anon! And print some amount..."
>"What amount?"

This is maybe exciting conversation to have once per person because everyone is peculiar in their own fun ways, but to have this exact conversation 5-6 times a week with same clients for every different campaign except different content text/numbers is frustrating.

Other than that, my job is OK, allows me to listen to alt-right podcasts on the side with earphones on while working, pays rather well for a rural eastern yuropoor location, cafe downstairs has good full dinners for 30% worker discount and I can gather valuable field-related experience which I can later put in resume to move to a bigger city to a higher payroll.
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>>129764494
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>129734973
Every time you go to your job, you produce value and make the world ever so slightly a better place for every single person on this planet. Why should you participate? For the glory of the human species, of course. If you don't like it, you can always opt out and kill yourself. Our species has accomplished more than any other has during the 4 billion years of terrestrial life. If you can't appreciate the gift you have received by the heavens above, being born as the paragon of animals, then feeling slightly depressed is the least of your problems.
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>>129764263
This.
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>>129768296
>Every time you go to your job, you produce value and make the world ever so slightly a better place for every single person on this planet
Proofs or gtfo.
>the glory of the human species
The first refuge of the cipher who has nothing to offer but their own existence.
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>>129771226
no were crowding out the good people with shitskins by supporting this sick system
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>>129764263
why would anyone wanna pay a neet for stuff
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>>129764154
Fuckin savage
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>>129769385
i view it like a garden. the plants are helping each other and they're swollen and ugly. overgrown

they need trimming. that's all. they'll still be alive and healthy. just trimmed.

if we cant trim, we're slaves.
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>>129764263
OP here, I intend on creating a business, but I plan on learning the skills I'll need to be competitive in the tech sector by working at a different business first.
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>>129769309
What a degenerate shitbox. Just how nature intended it right? WRONG.
You liberal city fags are soooo fucked next celestial event on earth or even a bridge being taken out in war to cut your supply line. I actually look forward to it. You realize we are going to contain you guys in your cities and let you die there right? And if you try to get out we're going to put you down right in the dirt, right?
You made your decisions, and you'll have to die with them in your little "sustainable" shitbox. Die slow, starving, or getting killed by cannibals within 4 days of your loss of supply chain.
If you have to build vertical for more space, you are doing it wrong.
LAFF!
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>>129748206
For the average person, life is fucking terrible
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>>129772061
Noxious weeds need more than mere trimming.
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>>129763921
>farming is an outdated industry
Litterally fucking how?
I live in kansas, 75% of it is farms. They live in nice ass houses and litteraly want for nothing. If you truly believe that then kindly neck yourself.
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>>129769309
because that is realistic everywhere... keep dreaming
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>>129770884
whats the difference
>>
>>129773123
very true

perhaps a little guerilla gardening is in order.
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>>129757555

Why should a person be tied to one job and solely one job ? I like computers and programming. But I also like other things. I finished law school, and will go to comp science next. Were it not for my parents to support me, I'd have to work in mcdonalds flipping burgers.

> do you really believe you will indefinetely remain better at computer

What do you mean by this ?
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>>129734973
its for getting pussy
or for pussy affording to smell nice
Existentially no reason
/thread
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>>129761993

It's not in America and I said I know people who do. I'm from southern Europe where commute is literal shit tier and it takes you 30-60 min to get to the other part of city because of narrow highways and LOTS OF TRAFFIC.

So no, it's not BS. Remember that USA is not center of the world and neither is your way of living the default way of living.

Me going to university takes me 1 hour and 30 minutes in a bus. It's not far, but traffic is literal shit tier and often has blockades because of traffic lights. I basically have to spend 3 hours in commute and I live in a center of a city.

Think about people who are in a bit of a rural area and have a job in a city. Yeah, whole fucking day in a bus.
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>>129735768
You sound like a lazy siesta man.
>>
>Working in an office job
No wonder you're depressed. It's always better to go for more labour intensive work because it usually pays better, lets you move around and often you'll get a bit more variety in what you do.
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How about we stop growing, and use the things we have so we work less.
Instead of producing more and more why not using that technology and instead of producing thousands of useless candies or useless shit and concentrate it on the important things like technology and clean food? I really dont understand most of you retards.
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>>129734973
You are only a worker ant because you choose to be one. Having a career is about climbing over others to the top until you reach a stage where you can have your own office designed however you like it where you wank around 70% of the time and could not give less of a fuck because you are pretty much irreplaceable.
>>
I'm Jewish & female, husband is also in tech

Yes I'm a fan of /pol/ most of the time

My advice to you bro:

1. try to get a job & work from home

2. Try to start your own biz/get VC funds

3. Make some apps

GL to you bro
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>>129777498
He thinks that after wasting 10 years climbing the latter and wasting his best years he will still be a creative free mind kek
There will come some grey days my friend. There is no escape
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>>129738186
Truth. OP is having My First Adult Existential Crisis. I'm in Boston too, OP needs to realize 10's of million Americans would thought they hit the lottery to be in his loafers. If he saves a bit of cash and adds people skills to his quiver the world is his oyster.
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>>129778168


He thinks that wasting away those 10 years with bullshit you felt like doing is not going to leave a tremenderous void in your gut just as spending those years working your ass off.

It does not matter what you do, once you are old and rusty you will feel like shit no matter what. But if you spent your time doing something you will not have to worry about being a worthless old hobo, who never reached his potentiall.
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>>129778685
I already have people skills

But seeing the tens(hundreds) of thousands of people being funneled into Boston on the T, through bumper-to-bumper traffic on 93 North, etc. and 99% of them going into identical cubicles and offices and sitting there all day, has me freaked out.

It's not that the work is bad(I like software) but it just looks like a mindless drone zombie army, and I don't understand what this machine's(economy) endgame is.
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>>129736900
Your not a wage slave because you live with your parents.
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>>129777498
>You are only a worker ant because you choose to be one.
This is a stupid meme. It is not possible for there not to be 'worker ants' in a capitalist system, obviously.
>>
There's literally nothing wrong with fidget spinners

Hating fidget spinners is more pleb than unashamedly spinning one.

"Wow look at me I'm a critic of consumerist culture and the vapid distractions of modernity that plague humans. This makes me so much more of a smart and informed consumer than them."

Good for you faggot, you're of unique or intelligent for pointing this out. I'm sure the majority of fidget spinner users (myself included) are self-aware of this fact. What does it matter anyway that they are more mindless in their consumption anyway? While your decisions in consumption and recreation might be more cognitive and yet you consume too and it makes little difference, the same chinks and Jews have your money. Your positioning of yourself as an informed consumer is only an attempt to place yourself higher in a social hierarchy of late-capitalism while belittling the peers in your community, quite oftenly people of your race. Quite sad actually.

"Look at me Zog I'm so much more self-conscious than the other goyim, I'm not a sheep like the rest of them"

This isn't even a new phenomena by the way, people have been obsessed with simple novelties for as long as we have existed.
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>>129779075
Then endgame is just efficiency. Knowledge work needs a critical mass around it. Boston has benifited. It looks shitty because the potato nigs control public funding and would rather fat bennies than more efficient infra. There is no master plan, just many meshing and competing interests. You're wrong about the cube though. They might LOOK the same, but holy fuck are there a million interesting subfeilds from southie to Cambridge to 128. This isnt the back office, you'll have the chance to work with the best if that's your thing. Though I agree the commute can suck for most.
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>>129734973
"Doing work" is institutionalized because it is an essential part of an industrial society. More work= more production and more demand= economic growth. But don't worry: today the main logic is "population= consumers". Buying stuff has become our work. When all production will be automatized, your "work" will be buying stuff, and it will be institutionalized. We will earn an income from the state (or at least from a greater institution), because our job will be to spend it on stuff, so that the economy will keep growing.
I don't know if I'm scared or not from this.
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