FIN/pol/ - Palace Coup Edition

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>>129720168

Soros wins again.

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>>129691695

>>129720168
Found an actual Finnish journalist.

https://www.lapinkansa.fi/kotimaa/hallituksessa-suunnitelma-halla-ahon-voiton-varalle-soinilaiset-muodostaisivat-oman-eduskuntaryhman-200183389/

i love finnland and would love to see your victory

don't let this event get you down - let it spur you into action / greater level of activism you're already active

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meni vituiks

As much as I like Master is he actually able to show emotions on a normal Finnish level? Because I've seen him in the media over the last week but he behaves like a genuine autist or robot.

>>129721095
Isn't that the normal Finish level?

Also this happening is great.

>>129721095
Whatchu talking about, nigger?

He smiled when he was announced as the next chairman.

>>129720168
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>>129721095
When has that ever hindered a political career in this country?

>>129721288
don't forget the awkward hug with Terho

Glue-sniffing nazi bois BTFO LOL

>>129721533
Hugs are always weird and awkward with finns when sober.

if anything this isn't that bad right?
they already weren't living up to promises, if i understand

its basically a purification

>>129721533
In the US, we have a "midwestern hug" that is popular with nords. It's good.

You sort of stand too close next to the other person and you both stare off until you agree that it's time to try to do something else, and maybe if it's very personal one guy puts a hand on the shoulder, or you just agree to shake hands to play it off like you're not afraid to touch other people.

>>129721716
well many "anti-immigration" members left for the new group, not to mention basically all the capable politicians. but something good may come of this yet.

need to have more finnish generals or at least scandinavian generals

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>>129721366
True; we have always elected socially inept barely-out-of-spectrum chumps as our leaders.

>>129721965
its an unfotunate trap: usually the more competant or experienced ones are more cucked to the system. usually these are the ones who care more about power than principle and turn lite/civic
you're right: not just something good either: but this might potentially be one of the better things that could have happened and turn out to exceed expectations

PM Sipilä will speak in half an hour

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9667429

in the mean time you can enjoy the live stream of comfy Finnish summer weather

what did you guys think of the fooking swish looking nordic resistance march just the other month?

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>>129720168
We need whistleblowers.
This shit aint democratic.

>>129722465
thanks for posting brother
God bless (You), and all your house

Summary of the situation by Politico:

Finnish PM: ‘Government crisis has now been cancelled’

http://www.politico.eu/article/finland-pm-government-crisis-has-now-been-cancelled/

But anyways, this will be good in the long run.

Sometimes the old must be destroyed to create something new.

>>129722630
hopefully this either spurs some action or reveals to people the (((bias))) and plants seeds for potential

>>129722572
i dont like them. hitlerists are cringe.

>>129722856
hail victory my brother
nobody said it would be quick or easy

>>129722856
can i get this in a finnish proverb version?

>>129723011
Jonkun uuden luomiseksi pitää vanhan tuhoutua.

>>129720168
How is it possible that we have representatives in the government who were not chosen by any party?

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>>129720566
>www.lapinkansa.fi
gualiti buplication :DDD

>>129722794
You dont cancel crisis.
This means there was no crisis and this is just their plan b.

>>129721716

Yeah it's basically a purification and it shows everyone who the rats were.
Apparently even Halla-Aho was surprised about the number of people who jumped ship.
But now the party has been somewhat purified.
What's really rubbing me the wrong way here, is that these jumpers formed a new party out of nowhere mid term.
Is such a thing even fucking legal?
I mean no one voted for this party, no one knows what their policies are, yet it now exists and apparently magically solves the entire crisis.

If it was 20 years ago, a lot of these corrupt fuckers would have been kicked out of the gov ages ago.
But nowadays this corrupt shit can happen in the broad daylight and it's all good.
It's ridiculous. Especially when it's happening in one of the least corrupt and supposedly most honest nations in the world.

>>129722856
But nothing was destroyed.
They formed a new party and you can bet your ass that this new party is going to get shilled to oblivion and our media is going to attack the remaining true Finns like they were Trump 2.0

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>>129720900
I think we are actually better off now. The former leaders of PS backstabbed the voters by not doing anything to immigration and in the process made the party irrelevant, from ~20% support to ~8%. Before this cleansing, we didn't have an anti-immigration party. Now we finally have one. And that's fucking great. It'll be HUGE in 2019 elections.

No more controlled opposition!

>>129722630
Exactly.

We need to get those two bastards, who made the coup to happen out of basic finns

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>>129722869
Thats maybe cos you're a bit too cucked and bluepilled yet, you will see the light some day

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>>129723446
Right...but the appeal of Jussi halla-aho isn't as great as Soinis was with ''normie wörking men'' finns.
At least this will lead to a purity spiral on immigration and euro skepticism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gRiWWcBKvs

>>129722856
Yes, let us count our blessings:

1) We now practically have a party of Finland Democrats.
2) RKP are still in opposition.
3) NCP, CP and the Fat Fuck Splinter Group are now severely stained for the next election.
4) Public is now aware about the level of corruption and taint within our government.

Are there others?

>>129723384
>What's really rubbing me the wrong way here, is that these jumpers formed a new party out of nowhere mid term.
>Is such a thing even fucking legal?
>I mean no one voted for this party, no one knows what their policies are, yet it now exists and apparently magically solves the entire crisis.

They formed a new parliamentary group which happens all the time though in much lesser numbers. Cabinet doesn't have to have a single MP in it, all that matters is the trust of the parliamentary majority.

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>>129721965
Obviously they were not serious about the ''anti-immigration'' if they abandoned a party because someone who would enforced anti-immigration policies was elected. We can stand enemies, traitors not.

>>129721835

>tfw entire family is in Minnesota and do that shit all the time

>>129723384
This is the best course of action.

The ignorant jumped to their death following their SNP leader Timo Soini like lemmings.

Majority of their voters will see them as money-hungry betrayers.

The SNP base was dragging PS down, but they will be erased next election. Only the new Halla-aho's party will survive.

>>129723207
fuck yes. thanks brother

finnbrothers:
post more finnsayings

>>129723321
yup. it was all political maneuvering.
>>129723659
lel you don't know me. i know plenty of guys from SVR and have been involved in some projects with them.

>>129722869
they are not cringe though?
very straightforward, honest, and humble

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So now we have two small parties, one of which is defectors and the other one is unpopular. The Center's popularity probably just rose as a result of this fuckery.

F

>>129724176
https://fi.wikiquote.org/wiki/Suomalaisia_sananlaskuja

So Finland is cucked and will stay cucked?

>>129723680
>pic
what does he hold in is finnhand?

>>129724053
It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't take two and half hours to say goodbye. What is the actual point of it all?

>>129724597
some of the guys i know are cool but hitlerism is cringe and a cul-de-sac. we rarely discuss ideology. some of them have realised it and have left the movement.

>>129724725
He's collecting donations for veterans

>>129723680
I think Soini's lying worked in the two last elections. Would not work in the third. They got in by claiming to be something different, and they had their years both in the opposition and government to prove what kind of men they are. Stupid, spineless coat-turners. They literally backed off with everything they claimed to support, just to accept the proposals of the globalist government. Their current support (pre-Halla-aho's selection) is proof that Soini's shit just doesn't cut it any more.

>>129724176
>''Transuille runkkaaminen ei ole homoa'' - Väinämöinen

>>129725014
i thought it was finnmilk

>>129724725
he's collecting money for war veterans. i did too when i was in the army.

>>129720168
>TF elected a new chairman over the weekend, controversial anti-immigration politician Jussi Halla-aho in a landslide
>Now about 20 TF MPs out of 36 have defected and formed their own parliamentary group "New Alterntive"
How could this happen? Who chose the TF MPs then?

>>129724936
do you see superior alternatives?
also: tell me about yourself

>>129724936
Nobody cares what you think Shlomo

>>129725118
party members chose the chair, vice chair, 2nd vice chair etc if that's what you meant. the electorate chose the mps, naturally.

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>>129723384
>If it was 20 years ago, a lot of these corrupt fuckers would have been kicked out of the gov ages ago.
>But nowadays this corrupt shit can happen in the broad daylight and it's all good.
>It's ridiculous. Especially when it's happening in one of the least corrupt and supposedly most honest nations in the world.

Come on, you can't be that young...

This exact same shit has happened 45 years ago, to practically the same party, even. Google "Lex Vennamo" if you're interested. Really sleazy happenings back then to get Soviet-backed Urho Kekkonen back to power.

The word "seteliselkärankaiset" ("shekel-spined") that's being used to describe the current traitors was invented during that last coup.

>>129725024
fucking lol
i said finnsaying not /pol/proverbings

>>129724661
post ones that are relevant :DD
i saw these ones:
>Suomi suomalaisille.
>Metsä on suomalaisen kirkko

>>129725220
there are no alternatives and i dont consider hitlerists an alternative. the nationalist scene is small and immature here. the best thing right now is the webzine sarastus, their book publishing gig and the group around them that for example organise the annual independence march.

>>129720168
F

>>129725250
And the voters are less radical than the party members or what? I don't see how it's possible that the the party has such strong support for the new leader if a majority of MPs defect when he's elected.

>>129720168
What font is that? I recognize it and have been trying to find it but idk what it is.

>>129725502
OISPA KALJAA

>>129724654
This is the first time in history there exists a noticeable Front National- or Sweden Democrats- type populist party in Finland. The old PS was not comparable.

It's hard to know what will happen to their support.

But one study said that 25% of Finns would vote for a "extreme" nationalist party.

http://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000005241869.html

Another study says that 50% of Finns have some views counted as right-wing populist.

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article159624414/Deutsche-am-widerstandsfaehigsten-gegen-Populismus.html

>>129725523
thanks for info.
sad to see you appear a tad defeatist, though.
>i know plenty of guys from SVR and have been involved in some projects with them.
please; tell me about your experiences

>>129722630
It's great to see likeminded people in here, in ylilauta ppl are just spouting "leftist BTFO , glue inhaling nazis in suicide watch"

>>129725772
>25%

sounds quite pathetic

>>129724099

That's if Aho actually stays there and keeps on pushing hard and most importantly, never sells out.
This is going to be one massive uphill battle for him and everyone else.
Rest of the parties are going to refuse to work with them as long as possible and media is going to crucify them.
And we all know how Finns love to follow what the TV says. Anything that's on TV or the papers, most of this nation eats up like Mämmi during Easter.
I'm seriously skeptical about their ability to rise from this.

Also my main problem is the time frame.
I've voted for PS 3 times now and it's been over a decade of wasted time.
Nothing has happened with them so far, due to the controlled opposition shit.
And now the real PS has to start building up from the 5%~ where it probably currently is and Halla-Aho isn't exactly a huge popular figure among regular people.
So we're going to be looking at quite a few years of climbing until they can even begin thinking about influencing politics.
Only thing that just might quickly uplift them is an economic collapse which fucks the entire nation over, which of course could happen in the near future. It's been a while since the last one.

>>129725644
The people are definitely more anti-immigrant and racist than the politicians. Politics is after all about compromises and as parties get into cabinet they're watered down. It's as they say: politicians don't have a spine.

>>129725118
The party was already divided into two factions for years, Soini's moderate populist with one goal, grabbing power for him and his friends, and Halla-ahos more principled, right-wing populist faction. Soini's failing health and him stepping down as leader just triggered the inevitable implosion.

>>129725772
>It's hard to know what will happen to their support.
I have a very hard time believing it'll rise.

>>129725772
I think the biggest problem for them is a lack of a charismatic leader. Halla-Aho will be attacked from all sides and politicians like Elo are going to siphon votes from the anti-immigration conservatives who are not comfortable with voting for halla-ahoists.

>>129722575

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y14YoWAnkf4

>>129725806
i don't consider myself defeatist, more pragmatist and realist. these kinds of movements aren't born overnight, not if they aim to be more than a flash in the pan.
>experiences
the guys i've worked with are open-minded enough to take part in projects that are pan-nationalist instead of specifically natsoc, so they are quite different form the swedish branch. Some of them are very productive. i think many join NMR because its the only gig in town. The swedes are more like a cult and they've stayed the same for over a decade.

>>129725935
Without PS voters, there would have been at least one leftist coalition since 2007.

That's because such a large chunk of them comes from either the sleeping voters or SDP.

So yes, they have done something good. It's just hard to notice.

>>129725935
>And we all know how Finns love to follow what the TV says. Anything that's on TV or the papers, most of this nation eats up like Mämmi during Easter.

This really needs to change. This ppl needs to WAKE THE FUCK UP

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>>129725739
>KARHU
me too, brother...me too

one possible positive outcome of the current palace revolution:

Suomen Sisu mps don't have to restrict SS activism in order to appear acceptable to Soini & co. SS has been disappointingly inactive considering its size and i think it has much to do with MP Immonen being at the helm, who's had to sit on two chairs so to speak.

>>129726817
>not drinking superior Sandels

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Reminder

glad to see this finntalking
please don't let the momentum die after this happening
continue to keep discussing and hopefully even just maybe acting

>>129722012
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>>129722012

>>129726988
>Not drinking whatever is cheapest

>>129725935
>Rest of the parties are going to refuse to work with them as long as possible and media is going to crucify them.
>And we all know how Finns love to follow what the TV says. Anything that's on TV or the papers, most of this nation eats up like Mämmi during Easter.
>I'm seriously skeptical about their ability to rise from this.

Yep, from what I've read we can expect a truly Southern European style smearing campaign during the next two years do keep PS from rising. It will be interesting to see what new lows our media will reach before 2019 elections.

>>129723207
Joskus uuden..

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>>129726988
oh wow that is actual finnbeer
i was just trying to make gay pun on beer/bear

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RKP one party government 2017.

>>129726214
It can rise but is it enough to change anything?

>>129727026
Reposting the rough summary in English:

The writer claims that PS breakdown was an orchestrated coup ordered by German-French big boys; any Euro-skeptics and troublemakers must be cleansed from the government. This will be repeated in other EU-countries during coming months.

To prevent them recovering from this split Halla-Aho and the remnant PS party will be subjected to unprecedented (by Finnish standards) smear campaign; all possible dirt will be dug out by state and globalist controlled media.

All this is a part of focused European federalization push, led by Macron and Merkel on behalf of globalist interests.

>>129726751
Read the comments about this shitshow on any news site, the people aren't happy. Except dumbass cuckoomus voters probably.

>>129726445
thanks for replying

>these kinds of movements aren't born overnight
what do you mean?
especially in conjunction with this comment:
>stayed the same for over a decade.

>nmr
please explain. excuse the ignorance.

>pan-nationalist
how pan?
pan-scandinavian, pan-white, pan-everynation?

>>129727703
excaclty, even if no big spur to action it could seed dissatisfaction / small rp at least:
>>129722860

>>129727625
finnstep at a time, finnbro

>>129727620
Österland will become a civilized, tolerant paradise once again!!

>>129727674
thank you brother

>>129723841
that's the spirit!!

I still don't get what is actually happening. Who are the good blokes?

>>129724380
also what is svr
sorry for ignorance

You know if this new splinter group forms a new party and doesn't merge with existing parties what niche would it even have? They've already basically outed themselves as globalists and slaves of Brussels so euroscepticism must be ruled out.

>>129728822
The most pol tier is probably Halla-aho along with the True Finns.
Personally im mostly for the National Coalition or some other less extreme party. Finland is fine as it is rn imo.

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>>129729208
>Personally im mostly for the National Coalition

>>129729208
I voted for National Coalition last time, but this Euro federalisation shit is gonna kill it for me.

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>>129727026
>>129727674
This sounds likely. How just a few days people like Terho and Elo congratulated Halla-aho, and now they left the ship. If they had planned on leaving the ship, why would they have made a fool out of themselves and made comments such as ''Now forward together!'' (Terho). They might have been genuine, but recieved orders from Big Bois in EU.

>>129729208
>Personally im mostly for the National Coalition or some other less extreme party
> Finland is fine as it is rn imo.
Spotted the globalist

>>129725880
it's full of shills trying to manipulate the public opinion, go warn them.

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I gotta say, these Suomi 100 vuotta -brand events are getting weirder and weirder.

>>129728937
It's still led by the Fat Fuck, so I guess it's going to be more general populism and claims to be on the "little guy's" side.

It has worked well enough since the 50's so why change it?

>>129723841
Halla-Aho and his group get to keep public fundin (nearly 6 million euros) while Soini the fat fuck gets nothing. Fins party will have the greatest war chest to the next election and Halla-Aho is coming back from Brussels year before the election. Prepare for combat!

>>129729208
>voting for a pro EU federalization party

Ei vittu make mitä duunaat?

>>129729520
>Posting the only based National Coalition politician

https://youtu.be/AeIr0Xy74-E

Only Jew I seriously like. I've actually personally talked with him too.

>>129725644
This parliament was elected 6 months before your traitor government sent 30K migrants our way. People are getting really tired of their crimes and fear of terrorism.

>>129725912
We have nearly 10 active parties and 25 % gets you to the top. Last election Center party got about 22 % and they run the government now.

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>>129725772
>It's hard to know what will happen to their support.

They have no support. They had to use fraudulent means of bussing in supporters against party rules to rig the vote in Halla-aho's favour.

Halla-aho's views are outside of mainstream and out of touch with present reality. Nobody in Finland wants to leave the EU. Brexit has shown that it's a bad idea and Finns don't like following bad ideas.

Halla-aho claims to be nationalist yet his voting record in Brussels lines up with the globalist agenda 100%. He was also too pussy to go to the army like a real Finnish man.

Halla-aho's positions will weaken Finland and embolden Russia, all according to the globalist plans to destroy European unity.

Russian media are the only people who have given Halla-aho publicity and the claims he made 10 years ago have still not come true https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30SSbpq-o_A.

>>129727257
Smearing campaign theories and other politic technologies are extensively tested here in Estonia. Years already.

>>129729520
>>129729839

Forgot to add this:

https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/kotimaa/benz%20salakuljetus-66537

Ben is literally an anti-globalist Jew.

>>129730426
>Brexit has shown that it's a bad idea
It has?

>>129730426
>They had to use fraudulent means of bussing in supporters against party rules to rig the vote in Halla-aho's favour.

The party rules literally say any party member gets to vote in the convention, it's up to the candidates to get people active.

>>129729597
Finland is way less globalized than other western countries. We arent globalized enough to be flooded by immigrants like sweden, but we still have a bit of impact in international forums.
I agree that its not perfect, but its the best solution imo.

>>129729208
>Finland is fine as it is rn imo.
I think so too. That's why I always vote for the most anti-globalist anti-immigration party I can find.

>>129730426
>Halla-aho's positions will weaken Finland and embolden Russia
He's pro-Nato though and hates Russia. He also supports Ukraine's EU membership.

>>129730426

nice reddit spacing fag

>>129730902
kek
This

>>129729799
What's even more delicious the Fat Fuck himself repealed the law that would have given the defectors a cut of the funding.

Although there is still time to un-repeal it with the current cabinet...

>>129727026
Words such as humanity and progress, democracy truly enable the most vile anti-demcoracy and anti-humanity leanings.

>>129730922
Ukraines EU membership is a disaster of epic proportions, at least for Estonians like me, Latvians and Lithuanians. It will be the Soviet style migration bomb dropped on us once again.

Fuck this shit, seriously. We do not need more "ukrainians" (russians, russified cunts and ukrainan retards).

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>129730730
>anti-globalist Jew.
He's a smart jew. He wants us to think he's jewing the jews, but secretly he's jewing us

>>129731330
>but secretly he's jewing us

Well no shit he's in the rich establishment party.

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>>129730902
>most anti-globalist anti-immigration

No such party exists. Halla-aho is a globalist.

>>129730793
>it's up to the candidates to get people active

By bussing them in with Russian money

>>129730922
>He's pro-Nato though

Which means he's a globalist cuck. Finland is stronger outside NATO. We must control our own borders with our own military and not take orders form people who sell weapons to Saudi Arabia.

>>129720168
So I assume True Finns are far right and National Coalition are perhaps center right? You need to be more specific comparing these parties to known American or British ones and perhaps even detailing their views a bit more. I'm not sure why but Finns seem pretty vague.

>>129731330
http://www.verkkouutiset.fi/kotimaa/villeniinisto%20zyskowicz-52051

Admit it, he is just too based to be Jewing us.

>>129730800
It's still very, very globalized in terms of culture, vis-a-vis British and US culture that it adopted.

You need to go to east Finland or far North to get some Finland experience and not just US-lite

So there's going to be a vote of confidence at least, maybe just for show, but it's better than nothing.

>>129731424
That was my point. Everyone, especially the "FUCKING BASED jew xD" are globalists. Thr migrant crisis here was partially their fault too, as they let them come since it meant cheap labor for their businesses

>>129731427
You take orders from Swedes, cuck. We have 4 masters: Swedes, Germans, Russians and USA
kek

>>129731427
But taking orders from Brussels is fine and not globalism?

>>129731068
I don´t think that is possible. They have already been fired according to party rules "those you do harm for the Fins party will be expelled immediately". So it is over for them. They get to keep the main office in Helsinki though because it is not in ownership of the party but still it is walking around money compared to Halla-Ahos reserves.

>>129731620
>You need to go to east Finland or far North to get some Finland experience and not just US-lite

Please stop posting bullshit

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masterplan

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>>129731828

Brussels is Europe. We are Europeans living in Europe, not Americans living in America. Weakening Europe is in both USA and Russia's favour. When will you idiots get that through your thick skulls!

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>>129731866
It's bit of a simplification but there are definitely more Finnish areas the further you are away from pop-centers.

>>129732074
Sounds like globalist talk to me.

>>129731503
The NC is a Cuckservative party. globalists and EU puppets. center right i suppose,

>>129724176
>Kutiavaa nenää tulee kaivaa

>>129728822
>who are the true Finsn?

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>>129732074
Haista vittu ja tapa ittes saatanan kansanpetturi.
EU on Kalergin suunnitelmaa ajava pan-Eurooppalainen unioni jonka päämääränä on hävittää kaikki Euroopan kansat mukaanlukien meidät.
Ajat meidän kansamme kuolemaa tukemalla EUta.

>>129732290
All his posts ITT are incredible globalist bullshit.

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One the most corrupt governments we've ever had. We need a new election right away...

>>129732446
>new election
to elect new corrupt puppets of fake democracy?

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>>129732421

>falling for Russian propaganda

Just kys

>>129732366
is this about jew?

>>129732421
>this

Fuck the JewU and fuck NATO

>>129727175

finnland and australand have very special relationship
finnman and aussman have special bond
i love finns
i love finnland

>>129731503
Generally speaking National Coalition is the big money party with both liberal and conservative elements and True Finns is mainly a working class conservative movement that had both centrists and right-wingers. Centrists left and right-wingers staid.

>>129732631
Itse ainakin äänestäisin iha vittuillakseni esim. Persesuomalaisia että tulisi kunnon kaaos.

>>129731866
It is true. The americanization is strong among urban youth.

>>129732716
>muh ruskies!

Not a fucking argument cunt.
EU is founded upon Pan-Europeanism, and that ideology is hostile to the continued independence, sovereignty and fucking existence of distinct european peoples. As EU is driven by that ideology, they seek to erase our people from existence.

>>129723270
We've had people run as independent candidates and then join parties later, we also had people break up from parties and form their own groups in parliament. This is nothing new.

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Look what came in the mail today!

>Halla-Aho ready to follow cabinet papers.
>Orpo and Sipila say "No, we can't follow cabinet papers because we just don't like you. We rather disband government"

Jesus

>>129733387
Hei
>lol finns

appluamassaslopuukenineminenaoseinensinene
>wtf

>>129729549
delete this picture

http://www.ts.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/3534944/Hallituksessa+suunnitelma+Hallaahon+voiton+varalle+soinilaiset+muodostaisivat+oman+eduskuntaryhman

The talk about unity from Soini's wing was 100% lies from the beginning, they had been colluding with NCP and Centre long before Halla-aho's election. prior the election, all of
the MSM had painted Halla-aho's opponent (one of the defectors) Sampo Terho as the good guy liberal moderate.

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>>129733292
>they seek to erase our people from existence.

So instead you support people who want us to join NATO, the same NATO that illegally invades and bombs Arab countries that then causes millions of refugees that flood into Europe instead.

Sound logic.

>>129733387
I hope you are sabotaging them from the inside. Or did you join just for the free booze?

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>>129733387
Hang yourself commie.

>>129725644
Finns Party is all about opportunists riding on the fame of racists. Come 2019 none of the people who split and formed their own moderate group will get elected, unless with some bullshit relative support votes, they better secure good jobs somewhere else when they still have time.

Also interesting thing: Finns Party's foundation is still owned by the traitors who split from the party, and the foundation owns their party office in Helsinki. If this wasn't dirty betrayal of voters already it can get much dirtier with the money.

>>129727175
finnland please listen to this zealander
and keep up the regular threads - or at very least have regular scand/pol/s
Godbless xxox

>>129733387
Vassareille vasektomia!

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>>129733387
Abdul, you won't be getting citizenship any quicker by joining the local communists.

>>129729520
Ben Z. is the most reasonable Jew in the world.

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>>129733387

>>129733387
tapa itsesi

>>129734030
>relative support votes
And this meaning they join other parties after that already have high support.

>>129733387
You should be forced to share your home with rapefugees faggot

>>129734030
>Come 2019 none of the people who split and formed their own moderate group will get elected

Wrong. Soini knows politics and they will go to their old role of being the yang for Centre Party. They won't have the same relevance as before, but they have a lineup of established politicians who will get votes from boomers.

finnland is an amazing country and with lovely people

its time for finns of /pol/ to come together and start posting regular finn/pol/ for glory and love of finn (the land - and people :DD)

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>>129733387

Unironically the only party I vote for

>>129734554

THIS

Older voters trust Soini and would never vote for Halla-aho

>>129721095
>normal Finnish level
>autist or robot
Pick both

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>>129734623
Why did you not stay in reddit?

>>129734856
No one trusts backstabbers

>>129735023
The average voter has the memory and mental capacity of a goldfish.

>>129735003
better memes t. eri

>>129735023

Protip: True Finns was started by backstabbers from the Finnish Rural Party

>>129734554
Soini is going to quit politics like this on top and secure nice government job outside the parliament, maybe even from the EU. But guys like Terho, Niinistö, Oinonen. They're finished unless they join other big parties to leech off their support.

Maybe they accept some good buddies back in, but not all of the 20 people. Their life as career politician is over unless people are too demented to remember this after two years.

>>129722465
wow you weren't kidding about comfy weather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvmJ-gXotB0

This thread
>no other European countries give a shit
>some cunts and burgers on the other side of the planet do

>>129735940
there is great love for the finnish people

as for explanation:
european countries are unfortunately very disorganised on /pol/ (except for brits unfortunately)
i recommend using this happening as opportunity to star regular finnthread or at least regular scand/pol/
i wish to see the same for germans, french, etc

>>129736293

There's no need. We have our own chan. This is just for shitposting due to the happening

>>129730426
this. Most finns are pro immigration, IF its controlled and the immigrants dont form their own tiny caliphates after being let in.
This is my general opinion too, since our population growth is rapidly declining.
A couple thousand immigrants per year, mostly from europe would do good to our economy, as long as they learn finnish and get to work.

>>129736612
:(
but
surely it makes difference to have thread here
especially scand/pol/
are you sure newfinn wouldn't maybe not know about chan?
sad to hear - the germans also don't host threads here

:(

>>129736615
Well the legit immigration system that we have IS actually working. It's the fucking refugee shit that's flooding Europe. Everyone's coming here for the gibs by the millions and EU's just letting them. It's not sustainable as these numbers are only bound to grow in the future.

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>>129736836
If you mean autismchan, there's nothing wrong with it. It was particularly fun when they staged an invasion on /pol/ one day.

The amount of Finnish talk that happen here are just about right.

finnland
nice
please
keep trying

and

keep posting here more:(

>>129737418
>The amount of Finnish talk that happen here are just about right.
NO ITS NOT
NOT ENOUGH

it looks like finnland is in motion
a small promise of hope has been planted amidst the chaos
who will winn?
who is the true finn?

its up to the menn here and their action to decide

>>129737268
Well migri did get stricter policies. Cutting a bit of government funding for the immigrants would help too.
The biggest problem is probably that we need a more effective way of getting rid of the refugees who recieved negative asylum decisions, if you look at other countries they are exactly the persons to commit terrorist attacks.

>>129724597
They are just meth heads up here 2bh

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>>129737815
*snap pop*
*click*

Nobody cares what a bunch of foreign cunts think about our country, we have our own chans for proper discussion.
Only reason I checked this place out today was because of happenings.

>>129730922
>He's pro-Nato though and hates Russia
Really? So he's a globalist shill. Finland would be better off being an autonomous republic of Russia than part of the EU.

>>129738528
Do you think (((they))) want to talk about how even Finland is experiencing political upset?

nah. We have to know for sure today if Russia hacked the elections, or if Best Korea is trying another rocket.

>>129738692
t. Kreml

what's the best finnish cured meat?

>>129738692
Unironically this. We have a 1000 km border with Russia. We have a shared history with Russia. Our biggest trading partner pre-sanctions was Russia. We have nothing in common with, say, Italy or Belgium. We are more Russian then European.

>>129739084
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuivaliha

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>>129739084
Whatever's knocking around between this guy's thighs

>>129739342
thank you for response
please keep posting on this board :(

>>129739467
>fat eye sockets
>fatty eye lids
>shallow eyes
That guy has Down's.

>>129739149
>more russian than european
>most people can't even understand their alphabet

>>129721095
Thought that genuine autist or robot is a normal finnish level.

>>129738968
lmao /pol/ is Brussels compared to what happens on Finnish chans

>>129738528>>129740688

:(

i wish finnland would stay

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>>129740236
Pretty sure he's raising his eyebrow for a better shot. But even though he's autistic enough to post his eye for rating on /pol/ it's still a pretty eye coloring, a nice eyebrow, and clear skin.

Plenty of dumb/defective people who look nice from the right perspective.

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Hmm.

>>129720168
Why was mestari such a stupid cuck that he couldn't see this happening, you don't take over something like this from an experienced politician just like that with rigging the party election to your favor. You actually have to have the party elites favor, especially when your talking about a party that pretends it doesn't have an party elite. How much of an autist did you have to be to actually believe that Boss Nass would share power?

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>>129741194
eipä ollu

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>>129740688
other way around

there's enough cancer on finnish chans to cause an overflow, resetting how cancerous it is

>>129736615
How is replacing our own people with foreigners any sort of solution to our declining birth rates?

>>129741406
kuvalautahan oli parasta aikaa, eihän tonne ylikselle halua edes mennä

>>129739149
B-but we wuz europeenz and shiet, senpai.

>>129741477
Replacing?
Who are we replacing if we dont have enough people in the first place?

i know you have your own chan
but
can finnland please stay regularly :(
please?

>>129741314
Just above you is a post by Sampo Terho who lost the party head election talking about how the party is NOT going to split. Not even the establishment apparently saw this coming.

....so that's a coup

>>129742005
Declining Finnish population would still be 100 % Finnish. Artificially growing Finnish population with foreigners will result in less than 100 % Finnish Finland. If you don't consider that replacement, you're too retarded to be allowed to vote.

>>129742733
ahmeds and islam is part of Finland now. It wont change anymore

>>129735940
nonono :(
see! see:
>>129742588
cares :)

>>129720168
xd

>>129741194
Olen aina pitänyt Halla-ahoa huippuälykkäänä psykopaattina mutta ei voi muuta sanoo ku hattuu nostaa Soinin ja muiden Juudasten vedätykselle, puolue hajotetaan ja jokainen lupaus petetään kunhan eliitti saa pysyä ministereinä. Sipiläkin alpha as fuck kun sai pidettyä hallituksensa kasassa tuollaisten lampaiden avulla jotka tulee suostumaan mihin vaan.

Seuraavaks popcornia ja seuraamaan jos Soinin ja Vistbackan on ihan oikeasti laillista käyttää puoluetta varten perustettua säätiötä ihan mihin tarkoitukseen tahansa. Säätiöhän on 100 % loikkareiden eliitin omistuksessa. Mutta eikö säätiöiden rahan käyttöön ole jotain lakeja? Esim. olis aika kyseenalaista jos he käyttäisivät säätiön rahoja että Vistbackalle saadaan uusi vene. Luulisi että tuolla logiikalla sen säätiön rahoja ei voisi myöskään käyttää heidän uuteen eduskuntaryhmään laillisesti.

Top fucking kek right now on TV the traitors don't actually disagree with much anything with based Master, they just feel the party got "hijacked" by outside forces.

Oh god now there's some vague conspiracy crap about how 2 unidentified people in the party are supposed to have orchestrated the election of Halla-Aho. The usual nationalistic and racist Finnish actors thrown around as suspects.

WE GOT OUR RUSSIA BOYS.

>>129744134
>2 unidentified people in the party are supposed to have orchestrated the election of Halla-Aho.
Yes, definately Igor and Vasili.

>>129744134
party was hijacked. Everyone was replaced. Thats why they left

>>129744134
>2 unidentified people in the party are supposed to have orchestrated the election of Halla-Aho.
I bet it's those Russian hackers. Or maybe it's the notorious outlaw, 4chan.

>>129722465
any update on this?

which of the finnish chans is the truefinn ishchan?

>>129744134
thank you for update
finns please post more on this board and more regularly :(
<3

>>129744397
They have the right to leave, but what hijacking? They had fair elections where every member of the party was allowed to go.

It's like saying my country was hijacked when people vote for new government.

>>129744682
I think it's just Ylilauta right now, the other ones closed down years ago.

>>129742124
Yeah right. On Twitter/FB you don't even have to keep a straight face to tell a lie.

Just about the only one surprised about this was Halla-Aho himself, which unfortunately tells a lot of his viability in politics.

Oh shit Ben's on. Prepare to get Jewed.

>>129720168
Don't you have a fine tradition of assassinating leaders who work for foreign powers to fuck you over?

>>129744134
They're quick. Construction of the Approved Reality(TM) has already began. This version is what the history books will tell us.

>>129745725
I can think of only Eugen Schauman, but he killed basically a foreign leader fucking us over.

>>129746381
We have muilutus though.

>>129744888
>my country was hijacked when people vote for new government.
that's exactly the logic democrats are using in USA when it's about RUSSIA

>>129744134
That fucking kike Elon claimed that some nefarious "forces" hijacked the party.
WHAT FUCKING FORCES?
HE DIDN'T NAME A SINGLE ONE OF THEM!
WHAT IN THE FUCK?

>>129747255
Yeah they literally tore the party apart based on vague rumours and tinfoil conspiracies. If Democrats over the pond acted this fast USA would have been in civil war since December.

>>129746381
It has been only downhill from there.

Kekkonen worked for Soviet Union and was practically a celebrated hero.

Katainen was a globalist slave he was actually once handed a knife by a citizen who wanted Katainen to kill HIM.

>>129742733
I dont think you understand how our society works right now. The main idea is that people between 18 and 65 provide for the other age groups, just as the elders did, and as the teens will do.
However, declining birth rates cause differences in the sizes of the age groups. People also live longer, which causes the elders to become a much bigger group compared to the providers than before.
There are three possible solutions that I can see.
1. Get out of your basement and make some babies. But thats not gonna happen, is it?
2. We import some providers from the outside to make up for the age gap.
3. We change our whole society towards something like the current american model. That would require an economically right-wing party to have a strong majoity for several periods in a row. And it probably would come back to bite you in the ass later.

Those are our best options.

>>129744134
Also the media played the Nazi card, and the defectors were quick to jump into this bandwagon. The narrative is now that Halla-aho and True Finns are Hitler and the nazis.

>>129747562
The funny thing is, that even under Kekkonen we had more independence than we have now.

>>129744134
2 people hijacked partys popular vote?
Also nazis..

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>>129747670
>2. We import some providers from the outside to make up for the age gap.
Yeah, those niggers and sandniggers will be used to pay for the pensions of elderly and schools of youngsters. Nah, nope.

That would work if one nigger was as much of productive work as a Finn. Problem: they are not. Get redpilled on racerealism anytime. If they were worth money, whole of Africa wouldn't be a shithole.

>>129744134
I dont like Halla-aho, nor do I support his ideas. But I agree with you. It was entirely the soini-supporters fault that he got elected. Blaming unnamed "forces" is just victim mentality.
Halla-aho does not represent the majority, but he still got elected because his supporters are more active. Thats how it works in a democracy.

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>>129720168
>mfw the propaganda machine won't be able to turn True Finns base against Halla-aho and even retards will see through Soini's bullshit
>"New Alternative" will be seen as traitors and lose all their voters
>Halla-aho will attract the more intellectually inclined anti-immigration people from the globalist coalition party
>Soini voters will vote the new /pol/ tier True Finns or go back to Christian democrats or Centre
>chaos continues in Europe and Halla-aho wins the 2019 election

This would be the best timeline.

>>129733387

Mcfucking kill yourself.

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>>129748484
im not saying our current system is perfect, but we WILL need help from the outside or we will having big economical issues when the current 40 - 60 yos retire.

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>>129744134
>>129745841
This is getting spooky boys. I thought our politics were not big enough for such obvious conspiracy to form. Both Soinilaiset (old TF leaders), Media and other parties were so quick to stand against Halla-aho and craft a story of ''hijacking''. Something like this should only happend in US politics.

This is getting me interested in Finnish politics, as now it's clear not 100% of our parties are controlled by globalists. Quite revolutionary. Godspeed Halla-aho.

>>129748602
They're whining about the same shit as Hillary bots. Hillary should have won since she won the popular vote. Too bad that's not how the system works there. Same in this case. Any card carrying True Finns member could go over to Jyväskylä and vote in the convention.

What they're actually saying is that they have absolutely no oversight on who gets to become party member and have hordes of neo-nazis among their ranks. And despite knowing this they didn't bother to put in effort on campaigning.

>>129747884
Not quite, that's a classic "old times were better" myth.

- We basically had no foreign policy; everything was dictated from Moscow.
- Soviet Union decided who will our leaders, they wanted Kekkonen and Finnish government bent over backwards to get Kekkonen to power. See "Lex Vennamo" as a fitting connection to current events.
- Non-Left parties got a full Sverigedemokraterna treatment. NCP was left out from cabinets for two decades despite being the largest party at one point.
- The groveling would show even in ordinary peoples' lives. Being labeled "neuvostovastainen" ("anti-soviet") would render you unemployable for life.

There's a reason "finlandization" is a word, you know.

>>129749240
I hope Sipilä and Orpo force a dozen Somali clans to move next door to you to help with the economy.

>>129749447
This is exactly why the True Finns got fucked as soon as they became a part of the government.
They only complain and say other's ideas are shit, but offer no real solutions. Populism in a nutshell.

Part of my argument was that immigrant shouldnt be allowed to form their own separate communities. I have nothing against living nextdoor to a somalian family, as long as they speak finnish and follow our cultural norms.

>>129749319
ha, welcome to 21st century politics

>>129749422
this is somewhat true, actually. however the context is different.
we are finlandised again, this time on the grounds of immigration, multiculturalism, the european union and european federalisation.
they are doubling down on political correctness in finland.

>>129750418
That's also true, whats different is that tools and methods for public opinion control are better this time.

>>129749240
What we need is Finns breeding, not bringing in people from low IQ populations, who will have an incresingly bad time finding a job as they get more and more complex as we get more technologically sophisticated. Even worse, once they start mixing with us, we will start a slow decline towards Brazil.

>>129750990
and so are the alternatives to the msm. the future is a big question mark now. it remains to be seen if the gubment seeks to block ylilauta, 4chan, homma etc.

>>129751078
>can finnland please stay regularly :(
I would breed as hell if I'd find a normal trad woman who's not ultra overly emancipated or a total bitch. Finnish women suck.

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>>129750309
I want to get off the ride

>>129751078
Exactly. Very few immigrants are able to find work at all, and those who do, do shit-tier jobs that our own unemployed folk could easily do. Those low-tier jobs will anyways be first to automatized, and soon we reach a time where you need >100 IQ to be worth working.

>>129749240
>we will having big economical issues when the current 40 - 60 yos retire.
Too fucking bad. I'd take any amount of economical issues over losing my whole country, my people, my heritage, my EVERYTHING. And I would absolutely without a second thought be ready to gas you to protect this country. You are a traitor to everything your ancestors fought and died for. You are a traitor to everyone who has come before you. You are, quite frankly, evil in your naïvety.

>>129751078
Even if the finnish people miraculously started breeding like rabbits these following years, we would still have an alarming shortage of people born in the 80's and the 90's.
This would work as a long term solutions, tho.

>>129749319
Actually HS is calling bullshit on that one, which blows my mind
http://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000005252436.html

>>129752638
So rather than taking in a small amount of third-worlders, youd wanna become a third-worlder.

>>129751078
Who will start a national sex day like Russia has, to help the future of the Finnish people?

>>129753242
>small amount of third-worlders,
So now it's a small amount? You just said we are facing an economical catastrophe that can't be fixed with our own children. Which one is it? At least try to be consistent in your treason.

>>129752993
I'm getting mixed signals from HS right now.

On the other hand there are the usual opinion pieces from red-green bubble boys ("How Halla-Aho branded himself as a martyr!" "How Soini saved the government!") but there are also some things that look suspiciously like balanced news reporting.

So, Finish (((Elite))) didn't like the outsider and spreged out?
or (((The Elite))) didn't like the outsider on top of Finland and and Finish (((Elite))) yielded and broke out?

>>129749240
>muh economy

I'd rather live in a mud hut in a homogenous, ethnically finnish country than in a mansion in Brazil. On top of that, these invading parasites are a disaster even in purely economic terms. Being of working age doesn't help much if you're just mooching on welfare. Don't consume yle or hesari narratives, it's not good for your brain.

>>129752993
Well shit that is pretty damn informed article.

>>129752797
No. We do not have a shortage of people. We will never have. Pension-bomb is a meme that has been supposed to happend for twenty years now. It will never ever happend.

Is economics all there is to it anyways? I would rather get 10% less money than have my grandchildren live in 50% white Finland. We can not be greedy.

>>129752993
They just haven't recieved the official memo yet. Don't know, maybe HS is actually just legit green-pink liberals who occassionally don't get the wildest bullshit. The ''hijack'' is so far-fetched it must have been even too much for them. They still obviously hate Halla-Aho for being a racist.

>>129754294
Also it's interesting how we manage to have the highest youth unemployment in modern history and still we have a screaming need for young immigrants.

I'm loving every minute of PS crashing and burning
It took long enough but finally it's happening.

>>129754783
I think HS is just scared they will get declared fake news if they go with the hijacks conspiracy narrative. Finns want evidence for something as outrageous as this.

>>129754294
tää

>>129754904
Seriously, though, we can't let Halla-aho have the Olkiluoto codes.

((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((TIMO SOINI))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>129753578
A small amount would mean a couple thousands per year. Two thousand per year would make up ~3.5% of the age group. The number of live births has decreased by around 13.4% since 2010. Most immigrants are russians anyways.
The immigrants would give us time to create policies that increase the number of births, and when our population is stabilized we decrease the number of immigrants again. The middle eastern crisis wont go on forever either.

>>129732074
EU is fucking enemy that pushes invaders on us, destroys our cultures and nations and states. Wake up.

>>129720168
Also, this whole plan was made weeks before TF election:
http://www.ts.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/3534944/Hallituksessa+suunnitelma+Hallaahon+voiton+varalle+soinilaiset+muodostaisivat+oman+eduskuntaryhman

I have to say, Soini played this beautifully... The fat fuck.

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>>129731620
In eastern Finland, in places like Joensuu, it is a complete and utter shithole. Their are no niggers, but a huge amount of Jonnes and alcoholics. Personal experience as I have lived their for a huge amount of time.

>>129756032
>~3.5%
!=
>13.4%
>Most immigrants are russians anyways.
!=
>third-worlders
>The immigrants would give us time to create policies that increase the number of births,
No they don't. Only European immigrants are a net positive, everyone else is a net negative.
>and when our population is stabilized we decrease the number of immigrants again.
How the fuck are you going to do that? With extermination camps? The population changes are permanent.

You are the most inconsistent Marxist kivapuhe retard I've seen in a while. Anyway, I need to go to bed, since I have to go to work tomorrow to get you your neetbux.

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>Ides, a day in the Roman calendar that marked the approximate middle of the month. For March, May, July, and October it is the 15th day of the month. For other Roman calendar months it is on the 13th.
LMAO it's literally the Ides of June. Well played Soini

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>>129723272

t. iltapaska

>>129756795
That can't be intentional. But so... fitting.

>>129736615
Ahh fugg. I went through Malmi on a bus and I saw 4 niggers on the bus and like 30 on the way to Kamppi.

>>129756752
You have no idea how percentages work.

>How the fuck are you going to do that? With extermination camps? The population changes are permanent.
The the number of NEW immigrants. The old ones are supposed to interbreed with the original population and disappear within a couple of generations.

>marxist
Now that a fucking exaggeration. More like realist.

>>129730789

brexit hasn't even happened yet lol

>>129757534
>The old ones are supposed to interbreed
kek
Now you are arranging marriages, commie?

>>129757439
Kamppi is where sewers drain empty.

>>129757439
Thats because the current government isnt putting the to work. They are just rounding them up in refugee camps and trying to forget about them while they drain our money.

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>>129749319
This whole fiasco, combined with the discovery of the genocidal Pan-European ideology that actually is at the root of the EU has convinced me to get into politics so that I can help in the fight to free our people from the EU and the destruction of our people it and the traitors among us wish to bring forth.

>>129757881
If immigration is done right, this will happen automatically.

>>129757923
Also the fact that amount of housing welfare recipients has doubled in capital area since 2008. There is no stopping them from gathering in the area.

>>129757923
You can not put them to work. They are ruining tools and workplace, anon.

>>129758226
Word.
I'm in politics since 2015 when the invader quota bullshit started.

>>129758253
Nope.
Breeding with nigger is throwing your children's future away. You are retarded.

>>129758319
Deport the ones who dont wanna conform I guess.

>>129757439
Helsinki is fucking lost, man. Every visit the decay has progressed further and it has really kicked in to high gear since 2015. The railway station and asematunneli is literally nothing but loud and smelly third worlders these days. Makes me so fucking angry.

>>129749240
Or we just wont let them retire as a thank you for their politics

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>>129758226
"You are charging up San Juan hill and I'm not sure if you are coming back. Godspeed."

>>129759055
You do not get it. They have no qualification or skill to do any job that is net gain for society.

Digging holes and filling them afterwards is not a job that creates any surplus.

>>129759220
Get your streets back asap
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>129758292
That is a fact proven in research. If I recall right something like 80% of immigrants in Finland will end up in capital region within 5 years of arriving in Finland.