Don't be racist americans, welcome Puerto Rico now! Be nice!

>>129701524

Something weird is going on with that vote. Only 23% of the population voted, and other votes, not that long ago, were split pretty evenly between wanting statehood, independence, and status quo.

Something's up.

>>129701825
Most Puerto Ricans boycotted the referndum, due to them disagreeing with the way some of the options were worded, which is why the turnout was so low.

>>129703673
That only accounts for the PPD vote that abstained. 400,000 pro statehood people chose to stay at home. My theory is they knew the vote would be ignored.

>>129701524
Puerto Rico is a burden on our country, we should either let them go or make them a state, it make's no sense to keep them in this quasi bullshit if they basically experience 85 percent of the same rights as normal US citizens. I personally would've dropped those fucks years ago.

Fuck no, that eat meat is broke AF. We do t want to take on their debt.

>>129703924
This.

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tfw no boricua gf

>>129701524
>Goes bankrupt
>Suddenly remembers it wants to be a state

Really makes you think

>>129710019
Boricua are not for gays.

They deserve it more than Hawaii.

>>129703924
The opposition knew they would lose so they boycotted the ballot in an attempt to reduce its legitimacy.

What exactly is tax supported debt? Can anyone provide a definition in layman's terms?

>>129701524
they're literally nothing wrong with racism

I don't dispute Memeneux statistics, but this is an USA territory. Our education, health and security is overseen by the USA congress, so if this island is shitty, that leaves a lot to tell about the one that is managing it :^]

>>129701524
Don't be racist France, let the entire African continent move into your country! Oh, wait.

>>129711876
>this is an USA territory. Our education, health and security is overseen by the USA congress, so if this island is shitty, that leaves a lot to tell about the one that is managing it :^]

you're right, we should just grant you full independence

>>129711673
If I had to guess it would be if you taxed everyone for a year at X% of their personal income and spent it all on paying the debt you'd pay off the debt entirely that year.

>>129703983
yo wtf is up with these flags, don't fucking call me new bc I'm here everyday how do I not know what is going on?

>>129712252
read the sticky matey!

>>129712198
Agreed. We don't want your nigger ass or redneck culture endangering ours, like you did with Hawaii.

>>129701524
>take on all this extra fucking debt!

>>129712390
better than spic and island nigger culture haha

>permanently blue state being added
Disgusting

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>>129701524
My portarican neighbor is based af. He voted multiple times for Trump and so did his family, which is huuuge. Lets show this based pede some love, /pol/.

>>129712390

>complains about niggers
>is a nigger himrself

wut

>>129712390
Sure, it is still better than shitty reggaeton and middle school girls getting pregnant to the closest kako they can fuck

>>129711876
A shitty kid overseen by good parents will still remain a shitty kid

>>129701524
We still have to agree to let them in.

>>129712343
I guess I'm retarded I can't figure it out. How do you choose?

>>129712928
Then the parent is reponsible.Theyr education failed.

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>>129701524

almost 4 million people live there, its basically our staging ground for an assault on Cuba during the cold war, its basically a military island that we dominate.

we should just take over Dominican Republic and Cuba while we're at it.

>>129713188
should be right under the captcha and above the "browse" button to select an image

>>129712707
Not is not. Americans don't even have culture. You're just a bunch of brits degenerates that wanted a piece of land where you could inbred in peace.

>>129712913
Reggaeton is not part of our culture. Reggaeton is basically hip hop. A copy of the degenerate nigger culture that came from USA. If you see the welfare culture in our island, is basically the same as the nigger culture in the mainland. Once we become independent they should be killed or exported to one of their shitty states. Probably California.

>>129712390
Too bad your nation only wants gibs and shows it cant be self sufficient. We already send you aid and you still suck.

>>129713735
Since when sending aid helps anybody you dunce? That's what got us in a bad situation in the first place.

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>>129713517
>Once we become independent

>>129713517
>Not is not. Americans don't even have culture.
And you ESPECIALLY don't have a culture

>>129713517
>You're just a bunch of brits

first redneck and nigger and now you're entertaining MY EUROPEAN HERITAGE as well? you're too kind

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>>129711876
>this is an USA territory.

I have visited your island and want to know this...

Why are all the beaches strewn with trash like someone tipped over 100 dumpsters eveyrwhere except Vieques???

Vieques was nice & the PR girl I was seeing at the time took me over there to meet her Dad. All the people on Vieques seemed a bit whiter than on the main isle of Puerto Rico so maybe I just answered my own question.

>>129713888
We will. If USA won't give us statehood. What is the other option? Or will you crawl like a worm to beg for it?

>don't be racist americans
thats an oxymoron

>>129713853
Should of let you die then since you cant handle the responsibility.

>>129711876
More to do with your median IQ being 84.

>>129712215
So they would have to tax their people for almost their entire paychecks for a year to pay their debts?

Poorto Rico, get your shit together.

>>129703983
Your southern shithole state is also a burden on our country.

>>129714021
>What is the other option? Or will you crawl like a worm to beg for it?

lmfao you're going to exactly continue crawling like a worm and beg for statehood like you've done countless times before. What a pathetic and sad island, so "self-determined" of its nation that it wants to give it all up for gibs!

>>129713425
I've got nothing. WTF.

>>129714318
Press F5 and try again.

>>129713984
You're welcome :)
You're more mixed than a street mutt by now however, to brag to much about European ancestry tho.

>>129714013
Because Vieques was managed directly by the USA, like the whole island should have. I am not arguing that you burguers fuck everything up by managing PR, I'm arguing that you fuck everything up by being irresponsible with the gibs you gave to a territory without properly supervising it. Vieques was a paradise while it had Navy bases and gringos paid close attention to the island. If they managed whole PR like they managed Vieques, we wouldn't been on this situation now.

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Fuck Puerto Rico

>>129714378
Still no. This is infuriating.

>>129714276
>t. The southern state redneck that fucks with it's dog.

Shut up nigger.

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>>129703924
Just let them try to ignore it

>>129714524
Brits are mutts to begin with. Anglo-Saxon/Celtic/Norman... It's a hodge-podge.

>>129701524
So many Snow flakes in here its like a goddamn blizzard

>>129701524
I mean, we basically colonized them, giving them statehood seems only fair.

>>129714632
do you have any addins like 4chanx running?

>>129714524
>You're more mixed than a street mutt by now however, to brag to much about European ancestry tho.

speak for yourself, spic-islandnigger MUTT

>>129714665
>muh rednecks

stay mad and non-white

>>129714896
Giving them independence seems fair.

Statehood no. Unless you want to add the Philippines next.

>>129714896
Nope we arent married yet. EARN your statehood or remain a territory.

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>>129714943
>b-but I'm white, look I even have a confederate flag

>>129714896
we fucked off from colonization for a reason and that's because these shitty islands have become far more trouble than they're worth

>>129715180
t. non-white

>>129714229

>Donkey

Kys

>>129715232
Im hispanic so no, I'm not white. What's hilarious is you assuming you are one.

>>129715180
Pretty sure the confederate flag is more about not being fucked over by my populated parts of the country like New York and California than hurr durr racism.

t. A fucking leaf.

Testing. Btw not sure if it matters but I'm canadian.

Also another way to think of this. We can help them now for an investment later. In some generations they will be just like a normal state.

>>129715418
Nah, they actually use it cause they want to claim muh whiteness, ignoring the fact that southern states are more surrounded by niggers than the northern states.

>>129701524
They vote liberal. No way

>>129715415
>coming from a spic-islandnigger

lmfao nice assumptions

>>129715696
Then he'd use the white supremacist flag if that were the case.

>>129711572
the boycot by the opposition only explains the lack of votes for territorial status, you still have to explain why 400,000 statehood supporters chose to stay home

>>129715543
That's actually a good pro statehood argument. I mean, I'm either pro statehood or full independence, but if we get statehood, Puerto Rico should submit themselves completely to sell themselves as a good deal. For example, our proximity to other latin american countries for business, our strategic position that can be used for more Army bases, the fact that we are bilingual. There are a lot of ways you can sell statehood, but the average puertorrican just wants gibs and no give anything in return.

Puerto Rico is just Detroit with palm trees.

Do Americans really want another Detroit?

>>129715779
The same was said for Alaska.

>>129715838
The need to defend it only gives strength to my assumptions, darkie.

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facts are facts ,. if PR becomes a state they will always vote blue ,. the democrats know the population will be heavily dependent on welfare and the liberal scum will make sure they are kept in line by promising more free money and healthcare to all ,. they will be a burden to the US just like all the democratic strongholds are ,. PR people are probably good people but like niggers and mexicans once they start getting free welfare money and see for each kid they pop out they get even more money they will be stuck in this slave dependent lifestyle for generations

i wish the US would just let them be their own country and do whatever the fuck they want ,. some people are saying if Trump does it they will be thankful and Trump can work his magic and swing the population to be more right minded ,., but i just don't see it happening ,., kinda sucks because i always found PR chicks to be banging!

>>129716102
I just want jobs, to get rid of this debt and to clean this islands name.

>>129716436
>my speculative groundless assumptions are right because you say it is actually false!
>stop denying that the earth isn't flat, you only reinforce my guesses!

spic-islandnigger logic everybody

>>129716237
>Alaska
>liberal

ahahahaha

>>129716452
Again the same shit has been said about Hawaii and Alaska. There is just no way to predict how a potential state will vote. For example yeah, people here love gibs, but socially they are more conservative, example; the hate sjw, left thinking, big government, anything run by the government, they are still very religious and hate transexuals (gays are more accepted).

>>129716452
Exactly. I know a lot of Puerto Ricans and they are solid Democrats. They know it's the Free Shit Party so they will never vote any other way.

They believe they deserve handouts so they can have fun, fun, fun all the time, and its just cruel to deny them the rich person lifestyle.

They are just a bunch of illiterate children.

woe

2011 FLAGS ARE BACK BITCHES

>>129716820
America is a liberal nation from the core.

>>129716717
>no for real, I'm white

The nigger's self hating mechanism everybody.

>>129716853
You're just in denial faggot, we'd be a hard blue state regardless.

>>129716452
Why not play this game in reverse. Fix the island so the 6 million Puerto Ricans move back to Puerto Rico where they can't vote for president. The Dems would lose 5 million votes in the US.

>>129716641
Me too bro. Sadly the pro statehood party just focuses on the gibs.

>>129716102
You become a state you will have unlimited opportunities so yes.

>>129716853
niggers are socially conservative but are diehard democrats. You can't deny this, spic-islandnigger

>people here love gibs
>hate sjw, left thinking, big government, anything run by the government,
>hate big gov

where do you think those gibs come from holy shit, Rican education everybody

>>129716935
not really, it was primarily and will always be a constitutional republic. Meaning, limited gov at its core. The Federalist party was shat on for this reason during its inception, and US history has never been explicitly inclusive: see injuns who deserved it. If you meant economically liberal, well yeah, that's part of freedom

>>129714922
Yes 4chanx is running. Why would that fuck it up?

>>129717164
speak for youself, darkie :^)

They will keep their colony status for a long long time, won't they?

>>129717696
not when we grant them full independence after putting up too much of their bullshit

>>129717857
chances of that are 0%, every single President in the last century has supported self determination, aka, unless a majority of Puerto Ricans vote for independence the US won't cut us loose. And the odds of a majority voting for independence are 0% when, just as one example, there's a million people dependent on Medicaid on the island.

>>129717444
I know you're probably inbred and that takes out some IQ, but concentrate you fucking retard. What Im saying is that although in some aspects the average person here thinks liberal (for example in gibs) socially they tend to be more conservative. People here hate anything run by the government, and most social services are run by private companies. Those of us who work, also hate the fact that our taxes are used for gibs, but those people that live of gibs, work underground without reporting it to the treasury. Those are easily fixed problems that can be addressed immediately.

>>129717696
Looks like it.

>>129701524
If the republicans are stupid enough to actually agree to let PR become a state on a sham 23% turnout election than they are just proving to us they never want to win an election again. PR will forever vote dem in presidential elections, will always have at least one dem senator, and will always have majority dem representatives.

>>129717560
Sure thing brodda ;^)

>>129701524
ok

>>129718289
Why so? Trump won by about more than 60 electoral collages. How will we make so much of a difference assuming we become a liberal state with a population of 3,000,000?

>>129701825
Massive debt.

Trump rejects it he is a "racist"
Trump accepts, debt overload and crash.

Truth being that (((they))) are going to start a war by crashing the economy or killing trump. There is a psyop for both going on right now to keep the public from as much shock on either choice.

>>129701524

They're also all niggers

>>129718690
But, how will becoming a state eliminate our debt? Sure it can be renegotiated, but it can't be eliminated. Are you saying that states have the power to just get into debt and then letting other states bail them out? If that's true, then wouldn't it make more sense to just eliminate that policy?

>>129718635
I think trump wants to invest hotels there anyways so he will just accept it.

>>129718635
They'd be handing over two extra senators. The Senate is usually a much closer balance than the House.

>>129712390
Really, don't join.

Just try to be independent and not go into debt

>>129719338
Its been really close recently in fact pence has been required to tie break.

>>129718153
>socially they tend to be more conservative

like niggers but that didn't stop them

>People here hate anything run by the government,

oh, like gibs?

>most social services are run by private companies

...who are backed by the government?

>Those are easily fixed problems that can be addressed immediately.

then fix your own problems first instead of whoring yourself out to big daddy USA like typical Rican women

>>129718277

I think Puerto Rico deserves better than the current status honestly, as congress would never approve statehood.
We can still keep our main points of interests and you'd be free to engage in a more autonomous type of trade with other caribbean nations. The problem is, I understand, a lot of the educated people have left the island already. A country needs manpower to grow.

>>129719225
IL is about try do just that.
http://www.valuewalk.com/2017/06/state-bankruptcy/

Also, despite how the market looks we are about to hit a huge bubble burst and having an new and impoverished state would make things worse for all involved.
I would like to see an independent PR even with foreign aid involved for a limited time as opposed to a state.

>>129719569
Ok sure, just allow us to make trade deals with our neighbors, exempt us from the cabottage laws and we will pick up our economy.

>oh but you are our property so no...

Than make us a state or let us free you assholes!

>>129719890
>Than make us a state or let us free you assholes!

if you want it so bad, go independent :^)

>>129719796
You're pretty misinformed my dude. States cannot declare bankruptcy or renegotiate their debt. We're only able to do that because we're a territory. If we became a state we'd have to pay our denbt. Of course as an independent nation we could go full Argentina and refuse to pay denbt but that has it's negatives.

>>129719796
Well then, fix your dumb policies and don't let states bail out their debt. Really independence or statehood works for us, but this doesn't have anything to do with our current debt, we've been asking for a resolution on Puertl Rico's status problem for a while now. This isn't new, it's just has become more pressing during the last years.

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>>129714524
>Vieques was a paradise while it had Navy bases and gringos paid close attention to the island.

Thanks for a cogent answer.
Why did all the celebrity Puerto Ricans protest the naval base then??? I was there in the early 90s & Raquel's dad was pretty Pro-Navy then.... He said a few weekends a year you'd hear the boom of bombs & every boom meant more bucks for PR & more jobs for Ricans/Vieques. Was it just more liberal claptrap or did something happen to set off the protests to close the base & bomb range?

>>129720082
Oh sure. Just let me grab my bags and tell Trump to fuck off and leave us alone. Wait, I'll be there in Washington in a jiffy.

>>129720295
liberal claptrap

>>129720586
I want you to be there in Washington to Trump can personally tell you to fuck off in front of your face

>>129720295
That protest was backed by the whole left bloc of latin america, and Clinton ate the bait like the cuck he is. Almost nobody in vieques wanted the damn Navy to leave, but the left is very good at making noise, and they use the death of a person (can't remember if it was a soldier or a habitant?) To push their agenda of getting the Navy out of vieques.

>>129720952
Trump stated that he's pro PR joining the actual union, though.

>>129720952
Well it's not like he didn't had the chance. I mean he did recieve the results, and he did sent Spicer to tell the press that the results would be evaluated by the congress, so yeah, he could have done it during anytime.......

But he didn't ;^]

>>129720094
They can, they havent since 1933. And your debt would be much more manageable with full autonomy. You could make laws to have a weed market like CO and use the tax to erase it over 4 years to pay off the bills. You could fast track a block chain currency and attract foreign investors to pay it off while improving your tourist sector. With out the overburdening US federal laws you can do what you want to get out of this hole. If you become a state you will get dragged in with the shit that the Fed has set up for the last decade.

>>129720294
All wars are about economics.
I dont mean this as we are going to war over it but economics is the life blood of a nation. There are more options for you under independence than if you become a state.

>>129721352
doesn't mean he's going to do it

>>129721535
the timing wasn't right, he has to do it right when it will hurt the most, a false sense of genuine belief :^)

>>129720294

>we've been asking for a resolution on Puertl Rico's status problem for a while now.

You're expecting too much. Half of americans (e.g., flyover states) don't even know where Puerto Rico is.

>>129721728
No states cannot declare bankruptcy, you are simply wrong:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/sovereign-debt-crisis/can-illinois-go-bankrupt-or-just-default/

>>129721020
Bit more complicated than that and worth reading about if you're bored. The US Navy was going to close that facility along with several others regardless. The local government and the left fabricated an anti-Navy movement then pretended the protests were the cause of the Navy leaving. There was also an attempt at gibs, the local government faked a bunch of studies claiming the Navy had polluted the island and caused cancer in the natives as part of an attempt to sue the Federal government for gibs.

Huge clusterfuck basically.

>>129721788

Well he's fucked then, because the people here are not expecting him to take us seriously, so he telling us to fuck off for shock value, is pretty much expected now. It wouldn't be a surprise.

A surprise would be that he says something pro statehood. In that case, I dunno what would happen.

>>129722221
Well we're at the mercy of the congress. Who else to turn to resolve the status then? Armed struggle?

>>129722239
>you are simply wrong:
Im not so sure in this timeline. If CA is putting up a referendum to succeed then all rule of law and logic has also seemed to fail. The law can change to allow them to do it.
As a state you could attempt to file Ch13 and renegotiate the debt though as its not a federal debt.

>>129722914
>The law can change

Well we're talking about the law as it is right now. Currently, states can't declare bankruptcy. I'm 99% sure in the future they'll be allowed to because of situations like Illinois but that's ten or twenty years in the future.

>>129722283
Trump really is irrelevant to this discussion. Congress has already stated that by law we have to remain a territory until we have a balanced budget for 4 consecutive years. That won't happen for at least a decade, by which time Trump will be out of office.

>>129713357
Damn Puerto Rico is Tiny

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>>129713357
>we should just take over Dominican Republic and Cuba while we're at it.

You faggots shoulda never given up Cuba. Cuba is rightful american clay.

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>>129701524
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
NEED LESS HISPANIC

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>>129723365
But we might have goddess Ivanka by then. And she needs enrichment

I am all for America spreading its power. Officially owning PR is fine with me.

>>129724029
We should. I like the idea of states that are ocean segregated.
>>129724190
who cares they wont mix.

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>>129724195
Yeah but I'm just saying, this whole debate is a red herring, we're stuck as a territory for the foreseeable future.

>>129701524
Why can't these mud-races do anything right?
They always try to leech off of white nations. Disgusting vermin.

>>129724282
>they won't mix

Fucking this over 1000 times.

What most stormfags are assuming is that we puertorricans want to copulate with your no butt surf tableboards you call women. If it wasn't for the economic crisis, which in part is based on the status, we wouldn't leave the island. We like it here.

>>129716136
Detroit with Caribbean land is helluva lot nicer than a Normal Midwest town.

>>129724600
Better to let them become a state and help us in trade and military. Letting them go independent would just be cruel.

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>Puerto Rico will be a liberal state

Gee I wonder why democrats are against statehood...

>>129728569
both sides don't want us. I'm starting to think independence is the only option for us.

>>129701524
Wanting Puerto Rico to join the USA is the most boomer thing I can imagine

>muh contribute to the economy meme

>>129729028
>flag
>the word economy in the post

Discarded.