Political Crisis in Finland

>>129691695
GODDAMMIT FINLAND

WE NEED A QUICKER RUNDOWN

>>129691695
Can I get a better gestalt
What are the nazis doing now?
By nazis do you mean nationalist anti-immigrants or actual national socialists?

The fuck is basic Finn party

>>129691830

Quick run down

>ghenghis led the finns to attack Europe
>greatest empire ever
> now just benis jokes

>>129691695
>20 mp's started a new movement and parliamentary group
Good, traitors purged from Party.

>>129691830
This, I can't understand anything of what Suomi is saying

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>>129691695
>heh
>finn
>benis

>>129692154
>>129691830

>True Finns formed gov with Center and National Coalition 2 years ago
>TF elected a new chairman over the weekend, controversial anti-immigration politician Jussi Halla-aho in a landslide
>C and NC said prerequisites for continued co-operation no longer exist
>Now about 20 TF MPs out of 36 have defected and formed their own parliamentary group "New Alterntive"
>It seems likely that the new group (which includes all TF ministers) will continue in government while the halla-ahoites will move to the opposition

>>129692246
Don't be rude to Miss Helsinki she is butifel.

There was news today Miss Helsinki candidate has been arrested in Philippines because of tons of drugs and firearms.

>/pol/ tire wing takes over the True Finns party
>Other government parties aren't happy with having to deal with /pol/sters
>Finnish government collapses
>The old True Finns resign from the party to "save their face by not being in a /pol/ party"
>True Finns splits up in half: /pol/ and the old wing who basically gave up all their ideologies (despite promises, they voted YES for greece bailout, they didn't prevent the refugee wave, and much more)

TLDR: True Finns splits up and the remaining half is identical to Sverigedemokraterna and /pol/

>>129691695

It's True Finns, not basic Finns. What the fuck, anon

>>129691830
>>129691965

They're not national socialists, they just want tighter border control and interment camps for rapefugees that are not approved for entry (so nazi for some folk). People are fleeing the party because their political careers are at stake and they want to save their minister seats, only because the parties in the coalition did not want to enforce the strict immigration policy that is allegedly in their platform (in truth many politicians and their family/friends benefit from the influx of migrants through law business, properties, medical services, utilities etc etc).

Currently True Finns are undergoing a transformation that makes them a one-cause party (anti-immigration)

>>129692443
>The old True Finns resign from the party to "save their face by not being in a /pol/ party"

LEL Shimon "Bibi" Binyamin Elohim, Maria Lohela and many others were signatories to the Nuiva manifesto and rode into parliament on the halla-ahoite wave.

>>129692443
How can we re-white-ify finland? Finns are notoriously yellow...

>>129692364
so the traitors among the party finally showed their true colours. and these people said that the party has no credibility issues. glad that they are out

>>129692364
> not relentlessly kicking those MPs out of the party because they are traitors and harm the unity of Party
DO IT, YOU HAVE CAUSE.

And harvest the tears + rising support.
How is Finnish election system idk, does kicking out of party cause loss of the place in parliament too or do you have personal voting not party voting?

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Is this a good news or not? You're not very clear finnish friends

>>129692681
It is good news.

>>129692665
>kicking out people who already left
wat

over half of the mps defected and formed a new parliamentary group. they keep their seats and will most likely continue in government (i also expect them to form a new party before next elections).

>>129692681
it's double-crossing back-stabbing news on an epic scale.

>>129692681
It's both bad and good news.

Good news: the ones who sold their ideology left the party
Bad news: the /pol/ party lost pretty much half it's power in Finland

>Basic finns

>>129692681
Good news as the True Finns implode. It is beautiful.

Bad news is that the new group has enough people to continue in the government with C and NC, so the horrible policies of the current government continue for the next 2 years.

tired of winning yet?

>>129692784
They did not leave party. The reason is thatthey have Party mandate to be in parliament. Or does Finland have personal voting not party voting. Kick them out, try to trigger elections because those people lost party mandate.

>>129692915
they keep their seats. they keep their seats. they keep their seats.

>>129692915
>The reason is thatthey have Party mandate to be in parliament.

Wrong.

>>129692848
>Bad news: the /pol/ party lost pretty much half it's power in Finland

I thought Timo did nothing while he was in government anyway.

Where the True Finns or Basic Finns voters happy with the new neo-nazi leader or were they pissed as well?

>>129691695
We need to destroy every other party and make halla aho our dictator. I was to to see all the leftists dead

personally i think electing halla-aho might have worked if they hadn't elected the imbeciles Huhtasaari and Hakkarainen and 1st, 2nd vice chair.

>>129692770
Says the cuck

>>129692983
The election was very one-sided. the voters wanted halla-aho

>>129692983
People tend to either love Halla-aho or hate him. They love him for anti-immigrant stance, not selling his ideology, anti-PC and anti-SJW stance. And people hate him for the exact same reasons.

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>>129692443
This was good summary.

>>129692551
Purest white genes.

Laura will effectively be the leader of True Finns now because Jussi Halla-aho has decided to keep working in Brussels.

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everything is lost now
the only nationalist party split in two

>>129693121
1000 people in the vote vs. 500 000 voters in the general election. Totally different things. I bet Halla-Aho would have gotten 6-8% of the vote in the election, now less of course.

>>129692964
So they got the personal vote? Or do you have party voting with list?

Do you vote persons or parties in Finland?

>>129692154
Finns can barely speak one language coherently.

>>129693227
They are personal votes, but it is complicated.

They won't lost their seat.

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>>129693121
>The election was very one-sided. the voters wanted halla-aho
Reminds me of this everytime.

>>129692961
Seats - maybe, digity - no.
essentially Finnish parliamentary and Party system is broken and not trustworthy any more.

You have big crisis looming.

>>129693227
we use dhont method
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27Hondt_method

>>129693301
* dignity

>>129693315
So they are there because of the party votes not personal votes.

>>129693275
Knulla dig

>>129693208
You have to purge traitors and infiltrators, anon.

>>129693401
Read it

>>129691695
Finland cannot afford to have political instability.
You guys are supposed to conquer Europe by 2050.

>>129693401
Yeah, but they are still allowed to continue as their own group.

Besides, most of the people that got the most votes in the GE 2015 are in the new group.

>>129693506
Estonia has basically the same system.
It essentially means they have party mandate not personal vote.

>>129692436
Link?

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>Congratulations to Jussi! Now let's move forward together!

>>129691695
>Same shill making these same pasta threads

While you are there, post yfw you realize that YOU were part of the problem that caused the rise of the Finnish reich.

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>>129691695
okay what the deal with that hairline in pic, is it pic related at all

>>129693301
>parliamentary, party system is broken
no, everything is by the book here. its not the first time something like this has happened.
>you have big crisis looming
why? i think the big crisis was just averted because the government can continue basically as before.

>>129693621
Do they have enough to break the percentage of votes needed to get your party into parliament?
What is it in Finland? In Estonia it is 5% of total votes.

>>129693523
We need chaos before we can rise.

>>129692246
you can't be serious
she not only isn't Finnish, she's not even attractive

>>129693629
https://www.voice.fi/ilmiot/a-145660?utm_source=ampparit&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

>>129693819
Was answer to
>>129693545


>>129693709
It is a trust crisis. This is big crisis, anon.Losing the voters trust into system breaks the system in the end.

>>129693819
There is no amount of percentages necessary. The country is divided into electoral districts, each district getting a certain number of MP's to the parliament.

>>129693825
>>129694080
What's up with those flag? We /backinthepast/ now?

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>>129694189
>pretending to know Finnish politics

>>129694286
HOLY SHIT WE ARE!

>>129694230
OK, Finland has no treshold, I get it.

>>129694341
Nope, I am just curious how did you end with this kind of shit happening to you.

>>129694562
Finally people will stop throwing shit about "muh white flag", "muh surrender"

>>129695063
UN is an oxymoron.

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>>129694189
pic related

>>129694912
I'm kind of dumbfounded myself, and can't decide whether or not this is a disaster, or possibly the start of something new and great. Halla-aho will speak in less than half an hour, maybe the situation will become a bit more clear then.

Good things:
>Finnish govt will not collapse and no elections till 2019 (if there were re-elections now the Greens and the Left would take over)
>People who sold their ideology left the True Finns party
>There's now /pol/ party in the parliament
Bad thing:
>True Finns lost over half of its power

>>129692154
OP is a retard who'd rather vote for cuckservatives than /ourguys/

>>129694912
in hindsight it looks like this plan was hatched as a contingency already before the TF chairman election. epic double-crossing and back-stabbing.

*backstabbing intensifies*

>>129695288
Who made the Juudas-post?

>>129692465
it's not true finns either anymore, they changed the name to finns party or something

>>129695348
>if there were re-elections now the Greens and the Left would take over

National Coalition would be the biggest party if there would be a re-election. Greens would gain alot. Social Democratic Party would probably gain something out of the TF implosion, but not enough to pass NC. Left Alliance would probably end at about 9% and they probably wouldn't go into the government with NC.

TL;DR Left wouldn't take over. Greens would probably get to the government.

>>129695759
Timo Soini. To paraphrase he says the thought of him defecting from the party he founded is absurd, and that defectors are losers.

>>129695704
Backstabbing is very democratic and gives voters confidence their vote has meaning.

Truth is - voting in EU has no meaning whatsoever.

>>129695288
>Isreal First zionist Shimon "Bibi" Binyamin Elohim
he will pay

>>129695348
This. Now our economy gets more time to heal before the leftists take over again in 2019.

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>>129695759
Time Soini. He was the previous leader.
He was also part of SMP party in the 80s before it ironically broke in similar fashion after backstabbing.

History is repeating itself

>>129695759
soini the catholic fatso, quoted
>The prospect of me defecting from the party I founded is absurd
>I consider the defectors losers

And now he defected, along with Terho, who was the media favourite to become the new True Finns' leader

>>129696041
kek
So this was controlled opposition, smoke and mirors from the start and now it is taken over.
Timo and the "founders" staged a duck, lied to voters and are now fully exposed.

This is GOOD. Meme it my friends.

Fuck yeah finally PS will become irrelevant

Halla-aho should kill himself probs

>>129696605
this desu

>>129692436
F-fake news ofc

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>Soini made another party with 20 true fins


HOLY SHIT

PS is fucking finished

>>129696605
Halla-aho is alright, his fanbois are cancer.

GREAT NEWS, HALLA-AHO WILL FORM A NEW NATIONALIST GOVERNMENT WHEN HE BECOMES PRIME MINISTER AND DEFEATS THE JEWS

>>129696798
Nope

>>129696475
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbeta.oikeamedia.com%2Fo1-22463&edit-text=&act=url

here's a quite accurate description of the recent developments

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>>The party is splitting in two
>>the former leader of the True Finns is leading the new party
>>The new party has more elected members of parliament
>>The new party wants to continue as part of the governing coalition

Background: True Finns party was hijacked by pro-TPP globalist funded extremists who bussed their people in from all over the country to vote at the party conference against party rules

Reality: True Finns were already dead after losing half their votes in the local government elections after purple realised they were incompetent and a one issue party. Even the leftist party got more votes than them. People also don't have an appetite for anti-EU positions anymore after we've seen how shit Brexit worked out and how America is under Trump.

>>129697062
>losing half their votes in local elections
haha no.

>>129697036
>oikeamedia.com

Sipilä just announced that the government is not going to break up.

>>129697062
Reality is that this party was solely made on only one puurpose - to lie to finnish nationalists and to hijack their vote. EU democracy.

Revolt.

>>129697418
quelle surprise.

>>129697450
did the lizards tell you this?

>>129697381
They literally tho

>>129697450
Stupid eestibong, stay in Soviet junior where you belong

>>129697418
kek
They realized that changing finns party to swedes pary in government will have HUUUUGE backlash. They sacrificed Soini and 19 others as a damage control.

But oh they will suffer now.

>>129697648
>comparing parliamentary elections to local elections
that's your problem right there

>>129697566
It shows - it is the only logical conclusion.

>>129697418
Crisis is over and next interesting thing is the moment this halla-aho rat will finally speak to media.

>>129697932
>implying PS would get over 10% in any election rn

>>129697997
>the only explanation is a vast conspiracy
nope.

>>129697868
>They sacrificed Soini and 19 others as a damage control.

Are you on drugs?

>>129698054
not implying anything but what i said: they didn't lose half their vote in local election, but barely a third.

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i have lost hope in democrazy
need hitlermongol now

>>129698151
Exposing someone as a liar and traitor is killing his political career.

>>129697868
It is the new group that is going to continue in the government. Seems like if all the ministers remain in the government, you do not have to break it up. Though one professor in our local newspaper said you actually DO have to break up the government even when the ministers remain the same. Shit is wack.

>>129698323
Stupid fuck

>>129698138
Conspiracy...
How was PS in parliament? Did they actually held to their pre-election promises?

>>129698312
What the fuck are you???

>>129698391
Sure you have, parties are the coalition members not persons. Or otherwise all of Finnish parliamentary and government system is a hack.

>>129698460
Nah they opened up wide for anything the centre and the national coalition wanted from them. That's what killed their support and lead to demands for replacing Soini.

>>129698460
does anyone ever?

>>129694230
No Finland has a treshold. I think if your party doesn't get any seat in any district but gets 5% of the national vote they get 1 seat anyway.

>>129698686
Well I wouldn't be surprised if our PM doesn't know shit about the law.

>>129698425
>changes flag to eu because his anti-finnish shitposting alone isn't convincing enough

>>129698391
Next time election and government forming in finland will be even more fun.
Some selected few infiltrate parties, get elected, in the parliament they form a joint group and start governing.

Parties are effectively dead in Finland if this government continues.

>>129692154
I'll try my hand at this as well.
>PS party holds elections on new party chairman
>Halla Aho ends up winning
>Prime minister decides he cant work with this and says that PS wont be in government anymore, remainder of yesterday and parts of today is about whether the government is going to be formed out of the two big plus some padding or whether there will be new elections
>20/37 PS MPs walk out of the party and form a new government party, informing Prime minister they wish to continue current government, in this group is every PS aligned minister in government
>Prime minister says all is cool now and now PS is both in government and in opposition

And on top of this all, my brain hurts.

Suddenly it become very quiet here....

Is the Finnish parliamentary and government system a hack and not democracy? Is this finally exposed? Did (((they))) go to far exploiting it?

Funland, funland....

>>129700244
halla-aho speaking live at the moment

>>129700244
stop pretending to understand finnish politics and political history.

I'm pretty sure the government cannot continue with the new group without the current government breaking up first.

>>129700182
This is great fun and fuckup.
You have constitutional crisis incoming.

They did king of a parliamentary hack here also
in last november and it is epic fuckup.

>>129700585
>constitutional crisis incoming
nope.

THE FIGHT IS OURS

>>129700480
well sipilä did not break up the government... but let's see what the oikeusoppineet say!

>>129700356
Finnish politic is backstabbing, lying to voters and selling Finland to the highest bidder. I understand it perfectly. On top of it it is pure fun.

>>129700775
This.

>>129700775
That's what I'm saying, I'm pretty sure Sipilä is wrong and ends up going to Naantali to speak to the president after all.

We need to meme snap elections.

>>129700585
*king - kind

>>129700585
no constitutional crisis, but the defectors have lost all credibility, and probably won't have a future in politics. unless the movement eventually morphs with the mainstream politics

>>129700812
but you don't when you think that this is a somehow exceptional situation or that this will lead to a constitutional crisis.

Don't think the party can be in the cabinet if only people who OPPOSE THE PARTY HEADS are allowed to stay in. Soini retired and Terho was denied and they think these people represent PS party?

>>129691695
>basic finns party splitted today

Past tense is splat

>Both parties splat today

>>129701035
Although this makes me wonder.
Will they lose credibility? What happens when more than half of the folks elected on the party jump out?
Has this sorta shit ever happened anywhere else?

>>129700585
There's really no such thing as a constitutional crisis in Finland. Our retarded system has the MPs themselves deciding is something constitutional or not and there's really no way to apply any meaningful pressure on them regarding the constitution. The parliament can do pretty much anything they want as long as they come up with some half-assed excuse why it supposedly doesn't violate the constitution.

>>129700812
>politic is backstabbing, lying to voters

Name one country where it isn't this way.

Anyway this was basically a political show where younger upstarts tried to oust and experienced older politician from his post before he chose to leave it, and this was the result. Stuff like this has happened since the antique. Sometimes it even works if the plan to oust is good enough, now it wasn't.

>>129701213
actually the correct past tense is "splut"

>>129700244
Yes, we are one of the most corrupt European countries. Our politicians don't have any real oversight and our constitution is a joke so they can do whatever they want, like trash our economy by taking us into a failed currency without a referendum to get high-profile jobs in the EU for themselves.

>>129701445
we need a perustuslakituomioistuin

>>129701313
Now it is out on the open for everyone to see.
Emperor is naked. EU is USSR 2.0

Good luck with this.

>>129701313
>younger upstarts tried to oust and experienced older politician from his post before he chose to leave it

what? Soini stepped down, Halla-aho was elected. Halla-aho was ok with Soini remaining FM.

>>129701306
Kivääri and puuko time, veljet.

>>129701541
yup

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>>129697381

They did lose half their support in the local government elections and every opinion poll showed that they had no future. Their voters already abandoned them after they were exposed as globalist funded Pro-TPP faggots willing to sell out Finland for a comfortable job in Brussels.

>>129701973
>lost half their support in local elections
nope. you can't compare local elections to parliamentary elections.

>>129701277
>Will they lose credibility?
without a doubt, their motives are now quite clear. no genuine policies, just a place in government
>What happens when more than half of the folks elected on the party jump out?
the defectors will agree on everything with the rest of the government. a defection of this scale isn't possible unless the defectors had planned this in advance, and in cooperation with other government parties

>>129702146

Yes you can.

>>129702933
well you can but it makes you look like an idiot.

What I don't really understand is why did the PS let every party member to vote in their elections instead of disctrict heads? They should have known plenty clear after last parliamentary elections that their base is full of racist hicks. It was even stated during the party convention that most party elite wanted Terho, not Halla-Aho.

>>129702996
yeah it's like they wanted this to happen.

So we got night of the long knives without killing anyone?

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>>129703115
>So we got night of the long knives without killing anyone?
yet. Shimon "Bibi" Binyamin Elohim was worried about receiving death threats.

>>129703324
> not being able to go to sauna with friends and leave your opened beer unguarded ever again
This is what they wanted. This what they will get.

TL;DR
>Finnish nationalist party elects a fucking mandman who actually wants to get shit done as their leader with
>all the globalist puppets that have been running the party get mad and jump out of party to make a new one just to keep their ministerial seats

LONG LIVE HALLA-AHO and may Soini burn in hell

>>129702996
Because it was already too late to change it after the last election? I guess it was always implemented as a way to draw people into the party but it backfired here.

>>129702996
Perhaps the party is primarily for the ordinary members and not for the party elite.

>>129703324
He`s politician so it`s part and parcel thing :D

>>129703686
LONG LIVE MESTARI HALLA-AHO ONWARDS TO LOPULLINEN VOITTO

>>129693294
Go to bed, grandpa.

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>>129702392
>>129702996

Bottom line is that the party will never recover.

The Halla-Aho part of the party won't get the support of mainstream voters because they're a one issue party for an issue that the overwhelming majority of people are already satisfied with.

>>129692784
>leaving the party effectively forfeits their seats to true "true finns" next election
>massive cuckflight from the party regains lost confidence
If I understand this correctly it is great news and I'm happy for you. If it isn't, please explain.

>>129704241
All parties are more or less the same with different focuses. Everybody knows Greens are obsessed with environmental loonery and they're on their way to big boy league after True Finns blundered it.

>>129704410
well the bad thing is that the most capable politicians defected to the loss of themselves and the halla-ahoites. Halla-aho is mostly left with a bunch of nincompoops. But we'll see.

Swede here, give me a quick rundown

>>129704611
Greens are just another marketing hack to get votes.

>>129704727
There will be civil war. It is all you need to know.

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>>129703686
>globalist puppets that have been running the party

The only globalist puppet is Halla-Aho, the "Immigration Critic" has over and over demonstrated that his"patriotism" has nothing to do with Nationalism.

Pic related in his owns words.

Enjoy slurping that globalist cum.

>>129704241
Let the multiculti take its natural course for a few more years. Eventually people are going to get fed up just like what is happening in swede.

>>129702996
because the hicks wanted a anti Ahmed party and halla aho delivered. What he did not realize was how much other MP would oppose him

>>129704241
i don't believe the party cannot recover. they had steadily been losing their voter base because of credibility problems.
as you know, they've been on an internal decline because of this (cases of tynkkynen, immonen, huhtasaari, hakkarainen and others, which the previous party leadership were quick to denounce).
it's a new party now, and it's all starting again from a clean table

>>129704727
Se:
>>129692364

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>>129705193

True Finns are pushing multiculti more than any party

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this is dark day for finlan

>>129705357
the problem is that Tynkky, Huhtasaari, Hakkarainen (<3) and even Immonen are simpletons. They need smart new faces, badly.

>>129704727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCZIdBpHGVk
This is about what happened but it`s only beginning.

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>>129704727

This >>129697062

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New Jytky will come!

>>129705175
>The only globalist puppet is Halla-Aho
Please remind me, what is Soini's stance on TTIP? Or Elo's?

>>129706269
Nah he'll take a cozy ambassador job after his tenure or retire entirely.

Nobody in this thread mentioned in this thread that Halla-Aho winning the party elections wasn't a huge problem. The issue is all the vice chairmen are literally madmen or retards. For instance, the first vice chairwoman is a creationist.

>>129706535
Well that's entirely the fault of Soini and other former party leaders who didn't bother reforming the rules so shit like that didn't happen.

>>129704241
>for an issue that the overwhelming majority of people are already satisfied with.
How do you figure? You don't just stop hating islam when you start.

>>129706535
>Hakkarainen
>Eerola
>madmen
No, you.

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KEKED
KEKED
KEKED

>>129705581
this is absolutely true, and as i said, marks a new beginning. it had to come to this, else the traitors would have eventually ruined the party from the inside. it's better to build something new instead of trying to fix something that was rotten to the core

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>>129706535

THIS

>>129706535
>For instance, the first vice chairwoman is a creationist.

Forgot to add that Soini himself is anti-abortion catholic. The party founder is bloody madman compared to rest of Finns.

>>129697062
lol no. The losed support because they were the protest party that would say that they are different and then they were part of the government that did the biggest cuts since 90`s. The Ahmed invasion did not not help either. So simpletons voters did not vote for them anymore since they felt like nothing had changed.

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>>129691830
>The Finns party surprised everyone with sudden spike in popularity, thanks to being more against immigration than others
>This was mainly because Soini allowed Halla-aho to stay to get the anti open borders vote
>Went to government
>Turned out to be same shit in different colors
>Popularity fell thanks to this
>Party voted Halla-aho as new chairman, media called it coup d'etat
>Halla-aho told that they could cooperate with (inter)national coalition and centre party as long as everyone would agree to precisely follow the already agreed government program, especially the immigration parts
>NCP and CP were unable to agree to this for (((some))) reason
>The party blew up, those who spoke of principles before suddenly cucked themselves to stay in government to keep their minister briefcases

>>129707026
>anti-abortion catholic
as if that's a bad thing.

>>129706953
>Tiina Elovaara
didn't she leave the party, too

>>129706953
Omar Mateen must have sexually identified as a lawnmowe

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>>129707100
Yeah this. At least we got rid of cuckservative leadership in the party. Maybe now we will have a true alternative to globalists.

>>129691695
>that 8head

finland is ruled by ayy lmaos

>>129707100
This.

I should add that True Finns received the most votes in 2015, 0.1% more than the Centre, but due to the voting system Centre got much more seats through all the low-pop counties. The popularity dropped because everyone expected so much of them, and they failed to do shit about the refugees.

>>129707100
This pretty much. And this was really important:
>Halla-aho told that they could cooperate with (inter)national coalition and centre party as long as everyone would agree to precisely follow the already agreed government program, especially the immigration parts

The media and even the new leavers a throwing a load of horseshit around saying stuff like Halla Aho is trying to make himself a martyr and what not. The truth is that they were essentially kicked out. NCP and CP try to sugarcoat it and the media tries to spin it but that's what happened.

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>>129706738
>Hakkarainen
>burns down his business 6 times
>receives €500k EU subsidy monies to stay in business
>claims to be anti-EU

Absolute madman

>>129708215
If we go all technical about this, without the bureocracy, taxes and EU officials fucking shit up, his business could've fared better.

In any case, EU funding failed businesses is just another argument against EU. It's just a matter of whether Hakkarainen would really vote to leave if it meant him losing subsidies; is he a straight enough man or not.

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>>129691695
My question is: will there be violence?

This sort of level of betrayal puts even Judas to shame and the political polarization will surely continue and deepen within Finland. It's not even sure how much support the remnant TF party will garner in the next elections and this sort of backstabbing will probably make even more people disillusioned about democracy and voting.

Personally I think there will be extra parliamentary actions, political violence and such in the future. Not maybe now, but certainly the risk will rise considerably after the 2019 elections.

What happened to the niggerhitler meme politician?

>>129708733
>will there be violence
lol no

>>129708018
>True Finns received the most votes in 2015, 0.1% more than the Centre

But that's not true at all. They came in third in the popular vote, losing to Kok by 0.5%.

http://vaalit.yle.fi/tulospalvelu/2015/eduskuntavaalit/?puolueet_##taulukko

Also, did team Mestari go to opposition now?

Leftist are calling for new elections. Get ready for prime minister Halla-aho

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BREAKING NEWS:

The Prime Minister said that he intends to accept the New Alternative as a partner in his coalition government. The ex-True Finns ministers represent more than half the votes the True Finns got in the national election.

True Finns is now irrelevant in Finnish politics.

The Center Party is a criminal organisation.

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>>129707100
If pic related is true we can kiss our nation goodbye

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>>129708830
Didn't get elected.

>>129708902
I'm not talking about violence between the party members themselves, but violence true to the lack of trust in our political system. I personally think it is highly likely over the time and that to many people this incident is just another proof of how politicians just shit on people's hopes and wishes.

Later historians will probably call our time the pre-civil war era.

>>129709233
Halla-aho seemed to echo this in his talk to the press. That it was more about EU-policy than supposed "values" which is obvious bs.

>>129709363
who's gonna get violent? i just don't see it happening.

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>>129709063

Please take your medicine.

Grandmothers and grandfathers will vote for Soini over Halla-aho any day.

>>129708906
That's weird. I distinctly remember reading it in the paper. I guess they got it wrong or then the context was different.

>>129709363
I personally think it is highly likely over the time and that to many people this incident is just another proof of how politicians just shit on people's hopes and wishes.

spoken like a low iq voter

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FUGG :DDDDDDDD

>>129709426
If this is true >>129709426 and the governments from hereafter will work towards an European Federation, I, for one, will get violent.

>>129709792
Meant to quote this >>129709233

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The Legacy of Katainen continues. The fucks want to reserve the possibility to take in more so called refugees in case of a ''crisis''.

Puppets in our government want to keep making money.

>>129691695
Is this eggyman's dad? He's such a good egg.

>>129692246
She's sami. Don't be raacisst.

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True Finns was a joke party voted for by protest voters but now it's a double joke party.

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>>129710199
>BASED BLACK MEN

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>>129709233
>kallun enot

>>129709130
Same here.

>>129710243
The face of a cuck

>>129706953
Disarm toddlers! Bring back thalidomide!

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>>129710243

>>129693227
You vote for persons, but each person get additional points based on how well their party did in the elections.

>>129711829
It didn't took too long, kek

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>The flight that saved Finland

>>129712174
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>tfw Halla-aho is the only good member of the true finns
>tfw the true finns are the only party that's against immigration

this is fucked, I want sandniggers out of this country but the only party that is interested in that consists mostly of retarded creationists. Why doesn't this shitty country have one political party with strong sense of national borders and security AND libertarian values? Bureucratic nanny state, that's what our shitty country has become. A nation of domesticated house pets and fags, that's what we are. Sad!

>>129712366
>libertarian values
get out

>>129709233
Summary in English:

The writer claims that PS breakdown was an orchestrated coup ordered by German-French big boys; any Euro-skeptics and troublemakers must be cleansed from the government. This will be repeated in other EU-countries during coming months.

To prevent them recovering from this split Halla-Aho and the remnant PS party will be subjected to unprecedented (by Finnish standards) smear campaign; all possible dirt will be dug out by state and globalist controlled media.

All this is a part of focused European federalization push, led by Macron and Merkel on behalf of globalist interests.

It's sort of bizarre how this entire crisis was because everyone wanted the cabinet papers to be followed through. As a result NCP and CP who wanted to follow cabinet papers broke the coalition with True Finns who wanted to follow the cabinet papers. But then True Finns who actually wanted to follow the cabinet papers formed a new parliamentary group to continue in coalition cabinet. This resulted in actual True Finns party who wanted to follow the cabinet papers to be kicked out of the coalition, which wanted to follow the cabinet papers through. In conclusion, everybody wanted to follow the cabinet papers and crisis was averted.

All in all it was merely grand theater to kick out anti-immigration anti-EU Halla-Aho and "his" True Finns.

>>129712777

what's wrong with libertarianism?

Hallituksessa suunnitelma Halla-ahon voiton varalle: soinilaiset muodostaisivat oman eduskuntaryhmän
http://www.ts.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/3534944/Hallituksessa+suunnitelma+Hallaahon+voiton+varalle+soinilaiset+muodostaisivat+oman+eduskuntaryhman

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>>129712366
>Why doesn't this shitty country have one political party with strong sense of national borders

70% of Iraqis have already been deported.

>>129713141
Eikö näiden oo pakko erota persuista ja hallitus kaatuu joka tapauksessa?

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>>129713103

Only someone with a 12 year old's understanding of economics will advocate libertarianism in Finland. We need high taxes to fund the glue sniffing PS voters so they don't start stealing our car tyres and breaking into our houses like they do in America.

Did you just get JUST'd?

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Uh oh

>>129713879
Military coup confirmed!!!!

>>129713770
Yes. Yes we did. I guess we will now follow your path to multicultural paradise within the next 10-15 years.

>>129713521
Mitä sibbeli puhu ni persuista eronneiden uus puolue tulee siis korvaajaks hallitukseen. Tartte vatuloida, demokratiaa voi sit harrastaa normi vaaleissa.

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>>129713770

True Finns yes

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What I'm wondering about is this: do the cuckservatives that left just hide their powerlevel and try to defeat the enemy by playing their game and the Halla-aho supporters are just more aggressive and don't play by the enemy's rules?

>>129713560

replacing our current dysfunctional and retarded welfare system with some sort of basic income would be the optimal solution but instead we keep paying for an insane amount government bureucracy. The state just keeps on getting bigger and less efficient in what it's doing.

>>129713770

No, we got JUST'd years ago when the "True Finns" party turned their coats and did absolutely nothing in the government for the past fucking decade.
Hell, one of their members was running a fucking refugee center and who knows how many others were involved in that shit.
Halla-Aho causing so much asshurt and driving the traitors to revealing themselves, is one of the best things that could happen here.
Maybe this will end in all of the rats jumping the ship and the PS party actually doing what they were supposed to do in the first place.

>>129714736
Defeat the enemy by sitting in government for four yeas doing nothing and slowly declining into irrelevance?

>>129714736
No. They were just useful idiots that were greedy enough to let themselves to be bribed with promises of power.

>>129709960
DELETE THIS NOW

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>>129714805

WTF are you talking about? We're the only country on earth that actually has a basic income trial going on. Basic income is the future and we're leading the way.

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When can I have based qt Finngolian wife?

>>129715065
>>129715080
I tend to agree, yes.

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HAPPENING : HALLA-AHO stays in bryssels and this fine lady is in charge.
Major SHTF for lefties they on suicide watch.

Why can't we have good things.. with halla-ago we could've purged the corruption the same way trump is doing in america. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>129712942
exactly. Sipilä said that there might be questions about immigration that arent described in the cabinet papers, and in that case he didnt want Halla-aho in the government.

>>129714221
Ei nyt anneta demokratian pilata hyviä bisneksiä.
Vittu mitä paskaa.

>>129715264
Why, are you surprised? Why would a Bilderberg regular NOT be good buddies with Emperor Palpatine?

Did you think he fucked our economy by sheer incompetence alone?

Shimon "Bibi" Binyamin Elohim: New Alternative has a zero tolerance for racism.

>>129716218
We civic nationalism now!

Sibelä puhuu :DDD
https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9667429

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>>129715809
>the same way trump is doing in america

Retard confirmed

>>129716649
because saudi-clinton is not corrupt?

Finland sounds like it's becoming like Sweden but more inbred

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>>129691695

All I could think of was Lennier

>>129716036
Somebody should gas that faggot

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>>129716748
>saudi-clinton

Nobody talked about Clinton here. Trump-Saudi is reality.

Halla-Aho akbar

>>129717211
This is enlightening.

when did they add flags. hm

>>129716948
Not fair. Even with Åland I'm guessing we are still somewhat less inbred than current Sweden. But let's see after couple more waves of multiculturization...

> kekistani

allahu snackbar

>>129691695
Nationalism is the answer.

Finland hijacked by the kikes now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-jW6MBLuA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-jW6MBLuA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-jW6MBLuA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-jW6MBLuA0

>>129718258
>that chick with the retarded boyfriend and grating voice
no thx

>>129716948

No, it's worse than that.
Our people are collectively pissed off about this and people don't want immigration, unlike Swedes.
But what makes it worse, is that essentially our government has just shown that every party is practically identical and if anyone even tries to disturb the status quo, they go apeshit.
Including half of the "True Finns" party
Of course everyone with half a brain knows that this is one massive charade, but now it's happening in such a blatant manner, that everyone should be demanding for the gov to be dismantled.
Also it seems that our politicians are able to form new parties on a whim without even asking the people and then saying that "hurr the crisis is now over. We have this bitchin new party that's the answer for everything. Also fuck Halla-Aho, we want nothing to do with him"

We're practically on part with Italy or Greece with this level of blatant corruption and kikery.
Everyone should just go full NEET, while working on the side and getting their salary under the counter.
Paying any taxes to this nation after this, is pure insanity.

hail nordic resistance movement

>>129717076
Me, Sipilä or Halla-aho?

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>>129717975
Oh please. This is already something like third or fourth successive (((foreign)))-led cabinet. Like the good old days with Kekkonen and Soviet Union!

>>129718544
Sipilän mulkku

>>129718527
>hail larpers doomed to the margins
hail hail hail

>>129717663
No, don't lie. We are inbred mongol horsefuckers, there's no use in denying that.

>In Finland about one in five persons carries a gene defect associated with at least one Finnish heritage disease,
>It is attributed to a population bottleneck among ancestors of modern Finns, estimated to have occurred about 4000 years ago, presumably when populations practicing agriculture and animal husbandry arrived in Finland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_heritage_disease

>>129697062
Brexit hasn't even happened yet

NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD

>>129701973
>TPP
That's Trans-Pacific Partnership you moron

>>129718683
Won't deny that. However, I would like to see the current hereditary disease numbers from our neighbour. I suspect our millenia-old horsefucking might look mild in comparison.

>>129718683
We need more race mixing

NEW
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>>129707100
>>129712898
GET YOUR SHIT IN ORDER MONGOL BRETHREN

>>129718669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_LbEyXtLSQ

>>129720977
>national action
should be national autism