What is this man's plan? What is the goal of China?

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>>129674922
Technocratic Socialism

>>129675045
What's that?

>>129674922
strategic parity to the US by 2050
securing maritime route, SLOC, and east asian waters to prevent a US blockage
energy security
stability in it's provinces

What's the biggest obstacles for China?

>>129675298
Hello there.

>>129675343
>>Hello there.

Nope.

>>129675343
What?

I mean, they've been trying so hard to access pacific ocean.
They are building aircraft carriers for that.

Their biggest obstacles in this case are the U.S. military bases surrounding east Asia.

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>>129675178
Essential this.

We should make more investments into cyber warfare platforms for offense and defense, when it comes to the Chinese. Maybe move large portions of our outsourced manufacturing away from China and into India to counter balance them. Make deals with India so they have a cold shoulder to China, and continue to gather alliances with east Asian island nations.

We could work our way into Pakistan to counter balance India power abit, Perhaps maybe get our CIA ISIS assets into some provinces of India to keep there focus on land warfare and to slug them down abit.

>>129675165
Machines in China will do production so well in the near future that state owned companies (nearly 90% of chinese ones) will give profits to the government to promote UBI

and more things but it's abit long for me to post them.

>>129675178
Add more public toilet in that list.

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>>129675924
none of this will happen as you hate India's H1Bs too much to compromise with them.

why do you think china loves republican internal and foreign (to some extent) policy

>>129675936

Sounds good, time too move back to the fatherland.

How will China deal with robots replacing workers? China simply has too many people.

>>129674922
Steal all the money from nearby county

>>129676228
Great Leap Forward Part 2

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>>129674922
Chinknese lack imagination.

They only work hard, cheap and rip off every fucking thing the USA has ever done.

The Chinks are the new Jews, the only difference is they lack creativity and ideas.

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>>129676062
Lends some credit that it was the Chinese that hacked Ameribros and not the Ruskies.

We could find a middle ground for a set number of Indian H1B, while giving them more regional power and economic stimulation from moving our factories there. In return for some power balance towards the Chinese. Won't happen though, no one in America seems to know how to play grand strategy, everyone here thinks were going to be #1 forever.

>>129676424
Seems more like Neaderthals. I don't mean that in a necessarily bad way either, they survived for hundreds of thousands of years with greater physical endurance than regular people.

>>129676228
They will implement a Universal Basic Income, because they're not retarded. They might be evil and seeking maximum profits, but they realize that killing off their population who can't find jobs when 90% of jobs are gone is a bad idea.

Here in the West, we still call people who warn about the impending unemployment crisis "communists".

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>>129676095
I am unironically considering this If I can get my IT skills up to par.

>>129676495
china cares not for your policies, and they have cut down the blatant info stealing since obama threatened sanctions, the only kind of spying is the type done mutually rn.

The russians did not really "hack" as much as influencing the arab spring is "hacking". Subterfuge is a better word.

>middle ground
this board would literally call you betraying americans for "devilish indians" lmao.

>>129676733
UBI would never be feasible in the US nor in any country until post-scarcity is achieved.

>>129676925
not really, UBI in china is much more feasible due to the blending of the state and the people.

My prediction it will be used to first allow the basic citizen access to a house, electricity, water and basic living necessities, not the future of free guccis or swiss watches

>>129676746
>>129676095

>wanting to suffocate
>wanting to live among chinese ''''''''''''''''people''''''''''''''''''

I lived there for 5 years, fuck China.

>>129675857
>Pacific ocean
>Worth fuck all in Chinese strategic context
How do you delusional islanders just tack every issue to your little shithole?

Here's an overview of what's actually happening:
The PLAN is not going to win against the USN anytime soon. Everything from top to bottom is a colossal mismatch.
That's why they're going to cheat.
If you can't win on the open seas, fight your naval battles near land installations. Hardly a new concept.
What if you had land installations built every two hundred nautical miles?
This is why china is gonna try and secure southeast Asia long before looking to the Pacific, much as the Japanese did. Of course, if the Japanese model is to be referenced, you'll note that this also includes securing Burma, India (where they have a hand in controlling naval routes against a potential hostile neighbour), and Phillipines (where they have a hand in even with Duterte) before Hawaii is even on the map. Also of interest is the naval route to Africa, where china has been tinkering about.

All in all, expansion westwards would be as foolish as buying a farm then digging downwards for gold "because there's a lot of dirt there", whereas a southward expansion is the only way for any meaningful gains for the PLAN.

>>129677137
Eh, I have family there lmao

But I agree, americans should stay in america

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>>129676925
Then how do you deal with unemployment? Surely you don't think that a good 50% of our population could join the already overburdened skilled labor and professional jobs, do you? When lawyers, pharmacists, programmers, IT techs, and engineers are already hard pressed to find jobs that even pay for the rent in the big cities they have to live in, let alone their crippling debt.

>>129674922
annex siberia

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>>129676746
Subterfuge is a better word.

This board would, since everyone here thinks America numba won on da west saiyd forever. The "devilish Indians" play would just be a hopscotch to bring all manufacturing back to the US, but as fully automated plants. And by then I'm sure they won't be as "polluting", from our green tech. Of course all the while we keep the middle east in a constant state of power vacuums, to which we can lead across into India. Whether by proxy or "out of our hands" terrorism. Plus India is much better of an "ally" that communist China.

So messy, but if we wanna win, we gotta play.

>>129676925

The commielords who run China would definitely rather appease their people with money rations than risk another catastrophic civil war and famine, of which China has experienced many.

>>129677246
its actually kind of sad, because china is pushing its future citizens into exactly those jobs

I predict it will be a future of skilled jobs/artisans in china sharing their works with each other, all living with the basics of UBI in the beginning, the more recognised your works/abilities/athletics/benefits are, the more you gain access to etc etc

>>129677201

It's a shame the dumb shit mud farmers are wealthy enough to travel now. They're crapping up everything they come in contact with, the Chinese should stay in China since they have zero respect for anything, even their own fucking country. They only jump (do nationalist stuff like yelling 'fuck japan' in the middle of the night) when the commielords tell them to when they're trying to cover up some scandal or another.

>>129677328
>Plus India is much better of an "ally" that communist China.
hahaahha, have you seen their intentions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl0b2LGf9jM

>fully automated plants
your CEOs are going to kill the average american if it does'nt come with UBI

>>129677496

I really don't think UBI will work in China, after these few years of relative economic freedom. Besides, Chinese love to flaunt their wealth, they'd go apeshit if they can't compare their successes to their neighbors and high school buddies.

>>129675343
Taiwan NUMBA WAN

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>>129677496
>>129677246
I see the skilled jobs/niche artisans play the most viable thing. It's also something the Chinese would totally do, higher levels, higher access. Very commie.

>>129677638
UBI isn't communism, it's just a flat stipend to everyone in your country. The rich get the bonus, too, so they still can compete. Basically, the idea is to make it so the poor aren't in a permanent state of unemployment, especially when there are so many poor people in the world that revolt and dissent would tear apart societies

>>129674922
China will colonize Africa and Cental Asia

>>129677776

I didn't say it was communism. I know what it is, I also know how base the Chinese people are, and how much they worship material goods and novelty. There are bitches there that determine their worth by how many plastic surgeries they've had, more = better person.

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>>129677636
When I say ally, I mean the kind of ally we spy on, infrastructure sabotage, and economic war games that are underwraps and behind closed doors. No one is an ally, just an asset for the time, or time to come.

Oh it must come with UBI.

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China unveils first commercially available China-built airliner

Intends to compete directly with Boeing and Airbus by 2020

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One of 13 new skyscrapers in China that are taller than any building in the United States

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He was sent down to the countryside during the cultural revolution. Pretty sure that fucked him up mentally.

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>>129677517
not their fault your government conspires with your businesses

>>129677700
I mean, if your a skilled programmer or a national boxing champion in china , I can see UBI being used to reward both .

UBI will ensure the average citizen will not be dirt poor, but if he/she wants to move out of a normal apartment and live in a bungalow/multi-storey house, they'll need to drive themselves to succeed.
>>129677638
This love to flaunt also coexists with how flaunting too much can make people see you as just a pathetic person with no real redeemable qualities.

The people most remembered in Chinese history have rarely been merely people with vast wealth, most are the kind that sacrificed themselves or died valiantly for their dynasty etc etc. Why do you think fu er dai exists as a term too?

>>129677868
Their wealth is already determined by the Government. All of the business owners are part of the Government, and the CCP can set wages as they like. Particularly for vets. China has made an "effort" to "raise people from poverty". You want to know how? By paying their veterans the Yuan equivalent of .3 cents more than the poverty line, so they're technically out of poverty, yet still as poor.

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>>129677868
Alot of the world is like that. I wonder how people will change when they have to, due to automation. Something CEO's and corporations will go towards.
Seems like it would be a change or fuck off type of deal. Though I'm sure with powerful software tools, AI, and advanced printing tech, and society of creators rather than workers might emerge. Creating boutique products for niche markets, digital stuff based of your own interests. Selling all that ontop of your UBI would earn you some extra to wave in faces.

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>>129675343

what are the thoughts on chiang kai shek back home?

>>129675936
LMFAO, UBI for 1.3 BILLION citizens, yeah, sure. Only reason why it works on Europe is because the population is so small, and most of them work. Now with china's future automation, most of them won't work hence more people will need UBI. Out of thin air I can ballpark that about 1.15 Billion people will be on UBI after China's FULLY automated, that's a lot of money that China'd need... Not going to happen.

Assuming that each of them will need $1,000 per month, that's 1.15 TRILLION dollars per MONTH for the Chinese government.

There's absolutely no fucking way that's going to happen.

How exactly did China's population experience such a boom even with the famines, wars and poverty of the last century?

>>129674922
to humiliate the west and make them into tributary states, all countries that refuse to have sex with chinese men and praise r/asianmasculinity will be destroyed

>>129677945
>tfw China hasn't even gone to the moon yet

lmao @ people who think China will surpass the US, Russia, or the European union when it comes to space shit.

Specially when their economy starts to dry up during a recession because the government won't be able to feed their 1.3 BILLION citizens.

>>129678650
>Only reason why it works on Europe
It exists with current technology, assuming it continues to advance (which it will), china could easily provide for 1.3 billion.

>Assuming that each of them will need $1,000 per month, that's 1.15 TRILLION dollars per MONTH for the Chinese government.

They might not given 1000 per month in terms of pure currency, they could be given facilities/services equivalent to more than that, such as free housing/healthcare/utilities/perishables

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>>129678650
Maybe we would have to classify each robot as a "semi-human" pay them 2/hr and tax 100% of it. Maybe we would have to switch to a money less society, and be more about resource based economics. Maybe money is something the world has to let go. New Deal on a global scale.

Won't happen though, everyone's jammies would be in a twist. Ain't money quiet the devil?

>>129678790
>because the government won't be able to feed their 1.3 BILLION citizens
I see the liberal lugenpresse got to you Sam.
The government doesn't feed people. The government takes from the people. When governments place agriculture under their direct control, that's when nobody gets fed.

>>129674922
THAT IS AN ISSUE OF CHINESE SOVEREIGNTY.

YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO INTERFERE.

THIS IS AN ACT OF WAR.

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The near future is going to be such a bumpy road, I love it.

>>129674922
Just ride the wave. China is wealthier than its ever been before.

Also as a heads up:

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/13/china-copycat-tech-image-is-fading-and-that-should-worry-us-giants.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEvu0HQQKKs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOYfUlOXMyU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHGkdPPlnR8

>>129678890
>we
you mean you

>>129678477
Taiwanese version Hitler that a lot of people loved.
And it's not a meme.

>>129674922
China's goal is to cuck Trump. They already did that. China won. Trump loses like always.

>>129679403
>you mean you
I mean she

chings gonna chong

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>>129674922
China is already a super power.

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>>129674922
Same as India, get the civilian population using toilets.

>>129675343
Godspeed

>>129675924
People like you are the devil. And remember what goes around comes around.

When the next terrorist strike occurs in the us- your favourite peron on earth will die in it.

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>>129680413
Sorry for trying to speed up your economic sector, sorry for trying to give people jobs and the ability to gain skill sets, sorry for trying to bring your people out of the slums quicker. Sorry for trying to get your people H1B to our country, and sorry for trying to get you ready for China's small but hard cock.

The world needs devil's, we lead you into the light, we bring out your best, and we bring order. The world is just a playground, and as of now, your at the bottom of the jungle gym. You can make it to the top on your own, but how fast? Will other be there to push you down? Devils can help the bunch, but the litter sometimes needs to die. Don't you agree?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu5xfnUz7c0

>>129680413
Join OBOR and let me nut in some hot indian chicks ;^)

(desu there are alot of hot indian grills here, too bad I'm not in any of their personal circles ;_; )

>>129675924

>Liberal capitalism: if a person gets rich, don't interfere!! government sucks!! go business!!

>Jealous conspiring burguerfuck: hurrdurrhurr we can't let this happnhurdurrdurhur the india the chinasss more rich than us reeeeeeee send the ((terrorists))))))

>>129675924
>should

The CIA is obviously years ahead of any armchair strategist.

>>129677246
Stop forcing the masses into "muh STEM, muh prestigious law" as if when you saturate these markets with subsidized loans at shit 5th tier colleges in bumfuck ohio they're gonna get jobs cause the top performers in these fields kill it.
Trades make more money than most of these loancucks working retail w their fancy cardstock without the crippling debt

>>129675165
Technocrat is a fancy word for college educated paper pusher in government

Think Georgetown fags who work for a three letter agency

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>>129681271
I certainly hope so. Cause it doesn't appear so.

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>>129681193
>nonburger: reeeeeeee, why can't we do these things!?!

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>>129681662

We can, but we won't since we respect human rights and life, and have moral values instead of indoctrinated worms in the brain. And despite not trying to exploit the world to death, we will get as econnomicaly sucessful :)

>>129676495
>everyone here thinks were going to be #1 forever
>actually worried about losing #1 spot to poo in loos and dog eating chinks

lol fuck off m8. We are naturally #1. Our river trade network is the best in the world, that alone could put us at the top, but not only that we have full access to both the pacific and Atlantic Oceans with no peaceful neighbors on both sides. The only possible existential threat in the next century would be if we don't stop immigration and Mexicans retake the southwest, or if the people of the US rose up against they're kike masters. Anyway China is no where near as powerful as people make it out to be, its navy is dogshit, military is corrupt as fuck, their greatest asset the Chinese economic engine has already started to stutter and world's economy hasn't even collapsed yet, once that pops they are going to face huge internal strife. Not to mention we will forever have strong allies in Japan and Taiwan in the region, and Duerte seems pretty open to working with Trump.

Honestly if we could just get rid of the kikes the US would be golden.

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>>129681999
Those digits mang.

Human rights and morals can come when we start mining asteroids for material abundance. But I see where you're coming from, and I like it.

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>>129682208
You're focusing too much on race politics, like our liberal enemy. And yes we do have the best natural borders ever, 2 fucking oceans and no opposition to our navy. But I'm not interested in letting anyone at any moment have any breathing room. We have to continuously disrupt, sabotage, and spy on our opposition. and as technology proliferates and continues to gain power to price ratio, it makes it that much harder for us.

If you wanted to bang my mother, but my dad was there you would look at him and say, "I could take him, might get bruised up but I'd come out on top." Why even take that risk? Why not just wait to kill him first, or ruin the marriage.

#1 spot has never been anyone's, it always changes hands. Lets work now so that no one has a moment to even think they have a chance.

>>129682441

Yes, perfect digits.

Resources on Earth are limited, not scarce.
You could be already mining asteroids if the 520 billlion dollars u have on millitary budget were used for more than global interventionism, killing people and establishing israel.

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>>129683305
Hello, Ernesto Chang.

China Red Pill 01 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 02 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 03 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 04 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 05 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 06 (updated version)

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>>129683464
China Red Pill 07 (updated version)

>>129674922
ill give you a quick run down
>canada has given china a huge huge amount of gold
>china has planned a gold backed currency since 2013 the us has known this for awhile now
>everyone has been selling us bonds and other things that the us holds
>china has made a world bank and we arent allowed in it

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>>129683488
China Red Pill 08 (updated version)

>>129674922
>What is this man's plan? What is the goal of China?
实现中华民族的伟大复兴, basically "make China great again"

inb4 China Red Pill 27.png

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China Red Pill 09 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 10 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 11 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 12 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 13 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 14 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 15 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 16 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 17 (updated version)

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>>129683305
we'll get there through private corporations, we need the military to keep the world in our balance, and to keep our hold on trade routes.

We need Israel, they can be a great counter balance force in the middle east, though I've been toying with the idea of maybe it's the Saudis we should team up with.

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>>129683724
China Red Pill 18 (updated version)

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China Red Pill 19 (updated version)

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Okay. Bye now.

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Thank god.

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And I'm sure most of the info you posted will drive more people to race politics rather than geopolitical trains of thought. That's what I call good psy-op.

Though the pollution thing is very real, which is why we need to transfer out our factories. And we have to continue to maintain dominance. Maybe you should be posting things about OBOR

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>>129674922

To get all the gold, buy all the precious metals exchanges and then revalue the price of gold/silver over night, crash the US dollar - utilise the Gold backed Yuan (which is already floating on the markets)

http://didthesystemcollapse.com

https://smaulgld.com/gold-moving-west-to-east-an-illustration/

Using Fiat currency to buy physical gold, smart

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Communists seize the means of production.... china has now sized the means of global production

>>129684174
Now this guy gets it.
You're smart.
You're real smart.
You're loyal.

>>129675343
kek

>>129684174
Chinese banks are owned by (((them)))...

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and its a strike for China

>>129675343
GENERAL KENOBI

>>129682897
fuck off neocon kike

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>>129679920
Any European government/politician that yields to this plan is fucking treasonous and needs to be hanged.

Why would anyone bow to China and allow them to do this. It is so fucking bl;blatant that they intend to use it as the vanguard of later colonization.

Britain/Rome always did everything in their power to fuck over potential rivals no help them.


What the fuck went wrong with the world. Why are they doing this shit?

>>129674922
be more like taiwan

>>129678071
Why the fuck aren't we building structures to match them?

We could employ so many struggling youth to rebuild our infrastructure and keep pace, but literally no one seems to care. It's like we've just stopped striving as a people.

>>129686901
Because we actually have a cleaner air to look to the sky.

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>>129674922
hopefully to fully annex Canada

>>129676925
china is a post communist totalitarian state,it's one of the few where ubi could be justified bc it was built,from nothing really,in the last 40-50 years through common labour,the sweat blood and toil of a billion people,not to mention the deaths by the millions. So they are justified in saying,you all built this you all should eat the fruit of your and your forefathers labour. A capitalist cunt cannot justify this easily and it would drive inflation like crazy and destroy society but ubifags will never admit they just want free stuff.
China is different,ubi might actually work for the above mentioned reasons but bc they have giant demographic crisis in the future so ubi might just mean pensions

>>129687124
???

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>>129687124
we will move our factories to pollute your island after we unify

>>129687641
Not gonna happen, island climate.

>>129686782
How is this colonization? Most countries do it. How the fuck else would things be transported?

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>>129687803
damn those environment-friendly typhoons

>>129679920
>tfw safe
feels good tbqh
btw the railway is already a reality

>>129686782
weak leaders
it's the result of democracy
also globalists and other shit,but weak leaders who don't care about their cunt or its people,see Truedeau ,Merkel Macron etc etc

>>129687868
It's colonization because the Chinks control/build it.

They will also use it to import goods to Europe to seize the market. Chinese products should only be purchased by western countries to be broken down and reverse engineered, just like they are doing to us.

Don't give the Chinks economic leverage.

>>129688999
Fascism when?

We need to get our shit sorted.

These zionists are poisoning us.