/sojg/ - State of Jefferson General (Ever Growing Edition)

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So what's the politics of Jefferson? Conservative, but how? Libertarian? Authoritarian?

>>129666752
Conservative with hints of Libertarian here and there. But mostly hard Conservative.

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Can't wait to build a wall along the Sac/Placer county line

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>>129666941

I need to move up north, barely any white people in southern California

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>>129666752
We like to drink, smoke and bang greasy whores if that's what you're asking

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>>129667105
It's very majority white as opposed to the rest of the state.

>>129666752
gibs me the libertarianism

>>129666752
Look at any run of the mill red county in the rest of America. That's pretty much it. Conservative, but with a growing drug problem that brings all sorts of issues.

Placerville is 'Hangtown', and there's an offroader's bar outside of Ice House Reservoir called "Uncle Tom's Cabin". So we lean right. But Roseville gets a lot of miscreants from Citrus Heights, and there's an ever growing Mexican/Latin population. A lot of southern Jefferson is like this.

>>129667731
All the more to quicken the separation.

>>129667132
We are a more fun loving, but hard working folk up here.

>>129668018
Yeah. But drugs will always be an issue. No matter the state. Just look at Redding, it's had issues long before the new opioid crisis.

>>129668436
That is true.

(Ironically we have a town called Weed)

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Alternate flag from a past thread

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>>129666752
With the older folks its Hard Conservatives and with the younger folks its mainly Libertarian. Baically muh machine guns and weed

>>129669033
It's more based off of all the taxes California bombards us with, but guns are another staple I suppose.

>tfw live in humboldt country
>tfw my county is the only one resisting SoJ
JUST

>when you are so sick of commies you move to Alaska

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>>129666501

It would be such an ugly state, though.

>>129669337
The borders change. Although it is in the process of growing and growing.

>>129669249
Blame pot

>>129669316
I bet you smell like fish faggot

The boarders look like Thomas Jefferson wearing a hat

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>>129669249
(((Humboldt University)))

>>129669749
I... suppose it does to an extent.

>>129669627
Or moose. Either one.

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>>129666752
It would have 7 electoral votes and vote Republican

>>129669581
That too.

>>129670099
Depends on which counties join, but according to that map yes it indeed would have 7 electorals.

Nevada City checking in. even the liberals here are conservative. though there are a lot of people coming from the bay who want to turn this place into Portland.

>>129669249
It's all the peyote heads and their powwow for social justice bullshit.

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>>129670306
>MAKE COLFAX WEIRD
>MAKE GRASS VALLEY WEIRD
Truckee is basically Santa Cruz in the Mountains so they dont need to do much else

>>129669249
I mean I can't really blame them they'd be cucked by the surrounding red counties.

>>129669760
>>129669249
its our shitty kike university president

>>129670306
I am aware. Truckee is a nice place though all things considered in my opinion.

>>129670099
The western US is divided in an egalitarian fashion along degrees parallel.That is a terrible job of drawing State boundaries, sad!

>>129670728
As to be expected from a university president.

>>129670099
Assuming senate seats are just created (2) that leaves 5 house seats moved from Oregon/California reducing their vote from 62 to 57. Not a very large impact in the house at all. The senate majority would change from 52/48 to 52/50 (assuming no conflicting senators). This reduces the power of the vice president, as the senate is now impossible to deadlock, therefore no tie-breaking VP votes. To retain true balance it needs a partner state to join/split with it. (Adding Puerto Rico would fuck-up the house of reps)

>>129670887
That is IF Puerto Rico was allowed in (which it may very well not be let in)

>>129670306
Right after the election, I saw a Hillary supporter getting on I-80. I looked over at her, with my cop shades on and my high testosterone, beautiful white male body. She kind of cringed and sighed all at the same time. Kind of like the way a mortally wounder deer looks as it bleeds out staring at you before giving up. It looked like she pissed herself, and she almost swerved right there off the road.

Since living here, I've only seen two Hillary/democrap bumper stickers. Those who are democraps are too scared to show it.

>>129671163
Yeah that's a big if. To keep balance perfectly we could just split California into thirds. This would create a Senate majority if 54/50 and deadlock at 52/52. The electoral college would gain 4 votes and the house of reps would remain unchanged.

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>>129670761
yeah, I would prefer natural borders too

http://kevinhayeswilson.com/redraw/
here's the site i'm using in case you guys want to make your own shit

>>129671716
May I ask the website you use to make those borders? They look clean and smooth.

>>129666941
>Can't wait to build a wall along the Sac/Placer county line
Never going to happen. Roseville/Rocklin is part of the Sacramento metroplex and would have to be ceded for Jefferson to ever exist.

>>129671716
Some of those counties wouldn't be in Jefferson. Not sure Deschutes county has made any efforts to join. No that I'm against them joining us or anything.

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Roseville will of course be the capital. Many business and universities are building campuses in our fair city. Even the Sacramento FBI field office is in Roseville.

>>129671886
Nevermind, ignore my autism. I realize you posted the link there.

>>129671975
Sacramento is salvageable so long as all the liberals get the fuck out. It's SF that is lost.

bump for hope
living in norcal is nice except the being part of california part.

I want to be respected again, if we get our state /pol/ will see how based we northern californians are.

>>129672116
Which is why I am saying there is no way Sacramento will let Roseville/Rocklin go. Jefferson needs to take sac county with it and the new capital for California needs to be in San Jose.

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>dat land grab tho

Keep that hippie nonsense up north. The central valley & foothills are not yours.

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>>129672232
If you want to see future posts and other events, I suggest checking out our new discord

It has only a few people, but is growing as time goes on.

>>129671975

Cirby way can be razed and a wall can take its place.

>>129672398
Hippie nonsense? I don't know about you, but Jefferson is FAR from a hippie movement.

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El Dorado county reporting in

>>129672364

They can fuck off cause it's not in their county.

>>129672539
Welcome.

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>>129672539
What brings you to the Jefferson train?

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Rocklin/Roseville can definitely go without Sac. Fuck Sac. anyone who doesn't have their head shoved up their asses knows that Sac. is a pile of shit.

>>129672364
Sacramento is full of scum, we'll never get it to join jefferson. Roseville could join but thats really weird because its part of sacramento basically

>>129673038
My thoughts entirely.

Is redding worth moving to?

>>129673288
Where are you moving from, what are you looking for, and what is your budget?

>>129673288
It is extremely hot in the summers. Otherwise it's a nice city. Personally, I suggest a place like Auburn nestled in the trees and mountains. Or farther north to Shasta City.

>>129666501
I am living in the last refuge of white trash in the bumfuck of the San Burnaghetto as teeming masses of liberals and reactionary snowflakes amass in front of my eyes.

I would totaly fuck the tranny at my gym though. Heil Jefferson.

What would be the biggest city in terms of population if it became a state?

>>129671716
would the remaining parts of or/wa stay their own state, or unite?

>>129673038
>>129673068
>>129673208
I'm not disagreeing with you but borders need to be drawn along economic zones not prexisting lines. It will be non negotiable. You have any idea how many state employees live in placer county?

>>129673484
They would get pozzed and slowly die off, as they always wished to

>>129673477
I believe Roseville. If that doesn't come along, Redding would be next.

>>129673466
Roseville/Rocklin area I'd suggest. Unless you are looking for something else, like less people etc...

>>129673506
Placer will be crucial to the movement. And the majority of Placer wants to leave, even including the state employees.

>>129673506
Yeah. People can go ahead and move. A lot of people would leave their jobs (at least on the Law Enforcement side) for Jefferson. In terms of civil servants and state urchins, they'd just mozy over to Citrus Heights etc.

i see the signs everywhere when I drive through calaveras county I would move to el dorado county in a heart beat if it ever passed. Easy drive to work down 50

>>129673537
Feels bad for the coastal conservative communities up there.

(Northern) Michigan, Colorado, Wyoming, and the State of Jefferson are the only places I'd ever want to visit in the United States.
This leaf wishes you people all the best in the world. God bless you all.

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>>129666501
>>129666752
conservative obviously. or rather, just fucking sane and logical. you know, the kind of people who are tired of the ridiculous bullshit of sacramento, san francisco and los angeles?

>>129674164
Well said leaf. Thanks for the support.

>>129669249
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>>129669249
its all the san francisco faggots who temporarily moved there to grow massive amounts of weed using illegal mexican labor

>>129666501
Hold on OP. Are you saying an Oregon county has actually joined the SOJ effort? You got a cite proving it, or are you just dreaming?

>>129670099
>>129670099
its about time we subtracted ec votes from california for fucks sake they should not have that many

>>129674164
Come visit someday Leafbro. Thanks for the well wishes.

I'd love to visit Alberta, Ontario, and PEI/Neuf. at some point. Only seen BC and Ontario.

>>129666501
gold county would never join jefferson

>>129674405
They have been a part of the movement since the beginning in 1941. Over 75 years ago.

>>129670306
oh man, i just visited nevada city this january. gold county is fucking gorgeous. i would probably live in grass valley, desu, just because there is a bit more there, but i'm fucking jealous of you.
t. born and raised in the sfv wishing i lived up north

>>129674627
What?

>>129674627
I'm assuming you mean gold country not county as there is no gold county in the proposed state.

And that is where you're wrong. Placer/Calaveras/Tuolumne are some of the biggest supporters for the movement.

>>129674868
>>129674769
I'm sorry, I misspoke. I was in Nevada City and spent a week there, met a lot of locals (who may very well be transplants) and it was a very "fuck donald trump" environment. I saw a couple of signs advocating for the state of Jefferson, but even for the two days I was in Grass Valley, I was met with a lot of anti-DJT sentiments.

>>129674450
Agreed.

>>129675259
Ah I see what you mean. Nevada county is interesting in that the city center of Nevada City is very anti DJT. However, a majority of Nevada County is still very conservative and the areas outside the city are hardline Trump supporters. Even if the majority didnt support the movement itself (which is arguable), the county would still come along and separate with the rest.

>>129674459
Alberta is chill but there's a lot of /truckboys/. Ontario gets a bad wrap because of Toronto, but as long as you stay away from there it's a lovely place with amazing history and lots of tourism! Come check out our great lakes, we have lovely boat tour that takes you all around Lake Superior right here in my town. Really, it's a cruise, but we don't call it that.

The Maritimes are God's land, too pure to be corrupted by the hand of Man -- 'nuff said.

I can't wait to visit the US one day.

>>129675259
Oh. It's cool man. Was probably transplants. Or just people giving their opinion. Nevada county is the only county in the area that went blue in the last election.

Also, for the record, Placer county is one of the most conservative counties, per capita, in the US. Definitely in California. Idk about Calaveras and Tuolumne though.

>>129675720
Tuolumne and Calaveras are actually extremely conservative. Go to Calaveras constantly and have watched Tuolumne in the past three election cycles.

>>129675692
Said Ontario twice, meant to say Quebec. Haha. Been through parts Ontario. Barely stopped in Toronto as a detour on the way to Niagara.

It's been a while, going to have to go back at some point. Maybe I'll catch my Sharks on the road up there.

>>129674635
No. Unless something recent has changed, the Oregon counties have taken no part in the modern SOJ movement. It's been a strictly northern California affair unless you can show some proof.

>>129666501
I live in this area and I can guarantee it will never happen. It's a redneck wet dream.

>>129676001
There is still support in southern oregon and there have been counties added on since the original 1941 proposal in Oregon. I believe you need to get your facts straight.

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>>129676140
To each their own. However, with support growing throughout the proposed state, it is not as far fetched as you may imagine.

>>129676178
Please leave a citation and show me I'm wrong. I'd love to see it. Show me an Oregon county board who voted to show interest, or even support. Show me an Oregon county politician who speaks favorably of the SOJ. Can you even show me a local Oregon newspaper with a favorable editorial on the SOJ?

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>>129675692
Hopefully that day will be the day we become a state.

Until then, we can only hope and be involved in the movement.

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eastern washington has proposed the state of "liberty". would make a great sister state to jefferson.

>>129676699
It would be very nice to see the conservative backbone in these states forming their own.

>>129676699
It would NEED to have the control of the (Columbia?) river for commerce. Otherwise it'd be a land locked sink.

>>129675720
>>129675259
you assholes are so lucky to live in that area. its so goddamn beautiful!!! i am stuck in la for the rest of my life because of my career and i'm flourishing here, but what i wouldn't do to just work remotely and live in the small town living that is the state of Jefferson.
thanks for the clarifications by the way. it was super granola up there, in the hippie/whole foods/topanga canyon kind of way

>>129676872
yep. IDK how it could actually happen here short of mt rainier wiping out seattle tho.

>>129677012
yes absolutely agree there. at the very least we have all the food and electric power to sell

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risk: wa state edition

>>129677387
That panhandle is horrific to look at.

>>129677549
It's actually a fat man with a glock

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Im still waiting for the butthurt Californians that usually bombrush the thread to say how terrible this is. I'm actually surprised there is a lack of them in this thread.

>>129668436
Redding needs to sort its shit out

>>129672539
>bay area fags cum in my butt awwooooo

>>129666501
Great GoFundMe - you've gotten exactly $0.00 since the last /sojg/