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Sales of George Orwell’s novel 1984 have shot up since Trump

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>"In George Orwell’s nightmarish totalitarian novel 1984, politicians speak in ‘newspeak’ – and lies are so common that people have to use ‘doublethink’ to understand them. So we can’t think WHY sales of the novel has rocketed as we go into the Trump era – and the President’s advisor Kellyanne Conway began using the phrase ‘alternative facts’."

>"The novel is now the sixth best-selling book on Amazon – as commentators drew attention to the similarities between its chilling future and our terrifying present."

http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/24/sales-of-george-orwells-novel-1984-have-shot-up-since-trump-took-power-6403854/

What does /pol/ think about this?
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>>129653392

2+2 = 5
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>>129653392
I bought the book because Bill Clinton was a rapist INFO WARS DOT COM
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>>129653392
now he's even getting people to pick up books? incredibly. truly the greatest president of our lifetimes.
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What fools.

We live in the Brave New World and they're too busy looking for Big Brother.

Amusing Ourselves to Death
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>>129653392
"fake news" and "alternative facts" are shit the media started saying before Trump and his team did. Remember pizzagate? They just started saying it to troll the media and deep state.

The deep state/media is literally 1984 in real life
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>>129653392
>“Story that broke minutes ago, like less than 10 minutes ago,” Colbert told his audience, “FBI Director James Comey has just been fired by Donald Trump.”
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>The audience cheered wildly, apparently believing this was a blow for the Trump administration. Colbert laughed through his surprise, but corrected the audience with a joke at their expense.
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>“Oh well, huge, huge Donald Trump fans here tonight!” he quipped.
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
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obama is more 1984 than trump.
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>>129653392
Maybe liberals will finally learn something? Who am I kidding.
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>>129653392
>politicians speak in ‘newspeak’

Kinda like how this anti-American, communist nigger faggot did here:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/05/obama_to_ohio_state_grads_reject_voices_that_warn_about_government_tyranny.html


Trump is going to purge you fucking commies and God willing, Trump will hire me to do so.
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If I remember correctly, 1984 the government was out of the control of the people, versus with Trump you idiots voted him in willingly.
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>>129653392

Irony is lost on the mental midgets that make up the left. They were all in favor of Big Government during Obama's reign, yet failed to realize that a Republican President could turn around later and use the system against them that they helped create in the first place.
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>>129653738
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They must not know about the movie version.
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>>129653392

Or maybe how it's this nigger coon bitch and her communit nigger comrade had illegally spied on every single man woman and child in America.

Fucking niggers.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49a_1360284775
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>>129653392
It's some metadoublethink since it's generally liberals who engage in doublethink. Just look at the "Trump Russia Leak". Trump allegedly disclosed to Russia some ISIS plot, and then this was leaked to the media. The media then proceeds to tell the entire world key details about this conversation and even how Israel hacked ISIS to get the intel on the laptop bombs. Liberals then proceeded to attack Trump for "leaking" things to Russia, while completely ignoring the fact that the media through it's disclosure is telling the whole world which includes ISIS.

Other examples include condemning xenophobia and nationalism on one end, and then calling anyone who supports Trump a Russian shill or traitor. Seriously, look at what they write. They will simultaneously condemn Trump for xenophobia, but then blame Russia for every thing even insinuating Trump is somehow a Putin plant.

So it's really comical watching invoke 1984 when talking about Trump.
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>>129653392
They all bought it but no one will actually read it.
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Imagine living in london
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Why do Americans suddenly want to know what's happening in the UK? America is Brave New World, UK is 1984.
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>>129653773
I think it's more referring to the fake media nowadays rather than Trump. Trump is more like Goldstein, I think.
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>>129653392
We are already in the beginnings of the 1984 algorithm Orwell talked about. The elite are cynically using intersectional left ideology which has enabled a complete takeover or destruction of the ideological state apparatus to push through globalisation. The overton window has been narrowed to such a point that people are already being fired, imprisoned etc for resistance to the hegemonic left globalist ideology.

We have gotten to a stage where even basic institutions such as family values, national borders ect are under direct threat.

Trump/ alt right reaction and their ability to temporarily get useless executive power to this narrowing overton window is just a flash in the pan - due to the destruction of our other insitutions - academia, media, cirtizenship etc we are set for hegemonic dystopia and the elite will get what they want - a global market with a compliant brainwashed populace without national institutions getting in the way of the movement of labor, taxing etc

By posting the pic and link you imply Trump is the harbinger of 1984 - this just shows how ill educated you are.

Sage your dumb ass and go read some more - start will all of Orwell's works.
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>>129654532
I still can't believe that's real
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>>129653392
Book described what Obama was in the process of attempting,
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>>129653392
> goto amazon reviews
> tell them sjw/pc language == doublespeek
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>be shitty low info shitlib
>want to appear smart to fellow shit tier friends
>buy 1984 and carry it around conspicuously
>read the first 20 pages
>never pick it up again because can't be bother to set down iPhone for extended period of time.
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>You can't call them illegal immigrants because no human is illegal! They are undocumented Americans!
And liberals accuse us of using Newspeak?
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>>129654700
the amazon review section memeing opportunity,
anyone got orwellian pasta ready?
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>>129653738
This is a very very good example. It is chilling to see how far we have gone.

LARPing aside - we are in very dangerous territory. Those guys will get executive power again very soon that along with all of the other institutions they control - it will be total. The next 30 years will be very depressing - only civil war or succession will save us.
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>>129653976
>Obama
>communist
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>>129653392
>Support of 1984 policies have shot up since Trump took power among trump shills
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>>129653658
>I'm in the know because I saw that shitty and incorrect infographic on facebook too!
Kill yourself.
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I watched the movie and the part that really stood out to me was when they captured enemy combatants who were trying to free them and they had them all in cages and the people were yelling/screaming angrily at them.
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I bought 1984 because I wanted to remind myself how the left operates
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>>129653658
Its starting to look like Harrison Burgeron
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>>129653658
This man gets it. I never read Amusing ourselves to Death - after reading Brave New World alone I was convinced that was the path we were upon. And I believe this more with every passing month.
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>>129653738
>Trump shills keep trying their hardest to turn non-events into treasonous offenses that happened months ago while completely ignoring actual serious issues
The pot calling the Sun black.
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>>129655122

What the leaf wrote:

>>129653738
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>>129653392
too bad its not selling better in great britain...if god is real he sure does love irony.
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>>129655575
>shareblue gets mad and starts posting for cigarette money again
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>>129655470
>I watched the movie

Leaf fag. If you are 18+ you should have read all of Orwell's works by now - if you havent you shouldn't be on a politics board.
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>>129655866
wait? this is an 18+ board?!?
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>>129655734
You know where you have to go.
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>>129655225

Apocalypse is the answer.

I can't wait till I get to live out my DayZ fantasy rummaging through my dead neighbors' houses looking for food and shit. Always wanted to see highways and cities and towns without all the people. It's gonna be the most meta feeling.
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Literally finished 1984 today.
I didn't see too many similarities, it more or less shits on communism. Newspeak is just dumbing down the language and doublethink is just the cognitive dissonance that already exists in all people.
Also ask Siri or Alexa if they are a telescreen and post results.
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>>129655575
>>Trump shills keep trying their hardest to turn non-events into treasonous offenses
Where is this? All I see is >>129653738 implying that we may already live in a 1984-esque world.

Get over yourself, leftard.
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>>129653392
Liberals are drama queens.
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>>129653725
This. Lefties don't seem to realize the MSM started the fake news thing with their pizzagate coverage.
The fact that dozens of different media outlets all suddenly began using the term "fake news" on the same day tells you everything you need to know.
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>>129653392

It'll probably be the first time those liberal cucks have ever attempted to read anything in their life instead of having shit spoon-fed to them by the MSM.

Hopefully they can get past the introduction without being triggered.
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>>129656280
Yes, Colbert commenting on his audience's reaction to literally one sentence is proof that 1984 is real. Why, he even made people say they love big brother before shooting in the back of the head.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump is trying his hardest to found a literal corrupt monarchy.

Conservatism is literally a mental illness.
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>>129653738

Pretty much this. This is Pravda-level of propaganda.
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>>129656179

Problem is, buddy, that nobody but a retarded leftist would care enough to post anti-Trump shit.

Really, that's the fact.

I don't post in MUH GOMMUNISM threads despite wanting to shoot every commie in the face. So, you mean to tell me it's 100% TOTALLY NOT SHILL STUFF GUISE when faggots keep getting butthurt over Trump?

Sure it is, fella. Keep telling yourself that.
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>>129653392
Trump does not want to control my thought processes and emotions, the media does. They want total control over everything I say, do, and think. Trump doesn't.
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>>129656275
yes. That was the point, wasn't it, faggot?
doublespeek = PC
doublethink = postmodernism
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>>129653994

You'll have to try harder than that goy!
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>>129653392

Newest cover is best cover
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A book can't stop the revolution.
Also 1st for Jebposting.
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>>129654031
What big government that didn't exist prior were "lefties" all in favor of during Obama's time? What "system" did "leftists" help create that didn't exist prior that is "being used against them" now by the Republican president, and how so? Why are you posting fake shit? Because you're a /pol/ shill? Yes that's why.
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>>129656527
> Globalist mutineers and stooges surround you
> The only people you can trust is your own family
Yep, Trumo should have towed the globalist line.
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>>129656663
>Problem is, buddy, that nobody but a retarded leftist would care enough to post anti-Trump shit.
Support for trump's impeachment right now is literally higher than his approval rating. How is it possible to live in such a totally delusional bubble like this? You idiots are either literally paid shills or never leave your trailer park strewn villages.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-poll-favourability-job-approval-more-american-support-removal-latest-a7775781.html

Not to mention that you the_Retard cancer infested this site with your dogshit.
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>>129657066

https://archive.is/Wgm60
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>>129657028
America is not trump family property, you fucking idiot.

>>129657104
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-poll-favourability-job-approval-more-american-support-removal-latest-a7775781.html
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>>129656815
Even though it takes place in Britain...
>Sure does make me feel better though
>t. liberal communist faggot who should be hanged
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>>129654532

They were probably trying to scare the shit out of people instead of making them comfortable.

I mean, damn. Look at that fucking graphic.

>watchful eyes

what the fuck man
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>>129657167
It's not, which is why I don't understand why you're so upset.
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>>129654700
>Some random muslim vs a vocal shithead publishing articles
Wow, I wonder how the white supremacist got monitored more?
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>>129657215

It's funny how Britain has actually become 1984

See

>>129654532
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>>129654984

Correction:

>read title
>never pick up again because numbers
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>>129655423
Having read both books I agree with the dude.. We are heading towards BNWs world, just without the whole birthing through tubes ordeal.

Much easier to control the populace by making them stupid consumers than to make them aware of their servitude and subordination.
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>>129657371
Because he's trying to make it. And frankly, this problem is older than him because he's just another turd in the bowl full of shit that is the corporate takeover of not just America, but he world.

>I hate globalists because I'm a dumbass racist and Alex Jones told me to!
>Unironically support globalist plutocrat takeover and ruination of the planet
Man, the right sure is clever!
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>>129653392
It took the Libs this fucking long to pick up the book after all the spying the bush and Obama administrations did.
Ffs.
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>>129657543
>Having read both books I agree with the dude
That's because you're a moron. There are aspects of BNW now, but you obviously didn't read that book very well, because it's nothing at all like our society except for 2 points: Marijuana is literally Soma and people are encouraged to consume, which even when the book was written wasn't exactly a groundbreaking concept. 1984 on the other hand has described American government and state-controlled media practices almost shot for shot.
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>>129653392
they just trying to make it seem like its Trump/Republicans fault. We have been living in the Runn up to 1984 since 9/11 2001. They are just merely conditioning their guys to this reality, so when they(Globalist Rep/Dem) regain power after Trump they can hit the accelerator...
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>>129657589
Read it before you were born, you dumb little goy.
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>>129657705
Before actually, but yeah, that was a turning point.
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>>129653392
If anything 1984 is about a more powerful and controlling government.

I reread it during the election because the left began talking about government run news sources. This made me think of the 15 minute hate.

People that understand the book knows that Trump is the answer to avoiding the 1984 dystopia. Not the other way around.
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>>129657427
The cover from>>129656815 still makes no sense. Who designed this and why didn't they think they were fucking retarded while they were doing it?
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>>129653738

1950
>racism = racial supremacy

1980
>racism = discrimination based on skin color

2010
>racism = privilege plus power

t. The Ministry of Truth
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>>129653484
Progressive math in 2017 is actually 3+2=4
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>>129657780
>People that understand the book knows that Trump is the answer to avoiding the 1984 dystopia
Wow. You literally couldn't have misinterpreted that fucking book more. "Fake News" "Alternative Facts", attacking journalists, suppressing free speech, attacking protesting (literally a 1st amendment right), selling weapons to SA then claiming to fight "terrorism". Trump is a putting the path to 1984 into hyperdrive.
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>FAKE NEWS !!
FAKE NEWS !!

>FAKE NEWS !!
FAKE NEWS !!

>FAKE NEWS !!
FAKE NEWS !!

>FAKE NEWS !!
FAKE NEWS !!

>FAKE NEWS !!
FAKE NEWS !!

>FAKE NEWS !!
FAKE NEWS !!
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>>129653392
>....." our terrifying present." WTF??
Author no doubt is serious and sober
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>>129653392
I picked up the book on my shelf a couple of days ago after binge watching the Handmaids Tale. IDGAF about Trump.
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>>129657971
No.

A government sponsored news source is a way to control what knowledge people consume. It is what the left wants, not the right.

I've read 1984 dozens of times and I understand it better than you ever will.

It is about oppressive government keeping its people dependent. It is a book about what the regressive left is trying to accomplish.
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>>129657971
kys retard
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>>129657971
must be "terrifying" to be a cuck with no country
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>>129657559
Not same guy, but you sound like an utter whipped faggot. What did you get bullied in high school or something? Do you feel the need to virtue signal because that's the only conceivable method for you ever possibly being near a woman?
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>>129655560
Harrison Burgeron is my shit
Based Kiwi
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>>129657971
go away heeb, you're being too obvious
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>>129653392
Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.
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>>129658279
>A government sponsored news source is a way to control what knowledge people consume. It is what the left wants, not the right.
The right is literally doing it right now, you fucking moron. The MSM always shills for corporations and the MIC. Every single time we go to war the MSM orgasms on live tv.

>I've read 1984 dozens of times
And yet didn't pay attention a single time. Fascinating.

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>>129658309
>>129658335
These are some powerful arguments. Welp, time for tax cuts for the rich and to let the MIC destroy the world!
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>>129655423
>too
Why the fuck did you see it in the first place, normie scum? Shoot yourself in the back of the head twice and jump in front of a train.
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>>129658552
>tfw you're too stupid to realize you're being made fun of and think you're clever
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>>129657971
Someone hasn't read the book
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>>129657765
Yeah way before, but 9/11 is when it went live. not theorycraft
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>>129656527

>turning an insult back on the person who used it first

Wow. I bet that took so much brainpower, right?

That aside, getting rid of those who oppose you is not necessarily a sign of corruption. Try taking a look at Machiavelli's view on the "prudent ruler". It's just a matter of common sense. Like you would be complaining if Obama had done the same thing, right?

I love double standards. Who gives a fuck what Colbert said, he's a fucking retard.
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>>129653392
The book satires socialism. It's Orwell's disaffection with Stalinist socialism. Check yourself, SJW.
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>>129658662
>my first post ITT
>she thinks she's been making fun of me for 40 minutes
>I didn't actually see the kikebook infographic I referenced
>I was just pretending to be retarded
Back to r*ddit, retard.
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>>129656663

Yeah, but we would be wasting our time if we didn't join in on the fun.
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>>129658839
If you believe BNW is more accurate than 1984, you either got it from this bullshit infographic or the dumbass opinion parroted from someone who did.
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>>129653392
Only in this fucking world would any of these uneducated socialist retards think that 1984 was anything but an indictment of socialism and communism, and how those ideologies lead to totalitarian brainwashing by the government. Big brother wasn't a person, he represented government mind control
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>>129653392

Trying to apply the label of Newspeak to Trump is beyond retarded when leftshits exist. Pic most definitely related.

I am kind of glad about this because the bluepill fearmongering of the MSM might drive some cucks to not only purchase the book but actually read and digest the lesson of it which is always redpilled. That an animal farm are absolutely indictments of Marxist inspired Fascism which is exactly the danger today's left and post modernism represents.
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>>129657066
>Support for trump's impeachment right now is literally higher than his approval rating

You are trained in perfect doublethink.
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>>129653392
>>129658817
hey just reminding you guys that orwell was a socialist
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>>129658514
You clearly haven't read the book.

That's ok. Being a teenager is hard.
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>>129657780
The 1984 sale boost has nothing to do with the contents, but the meme that it's the must read book about dystopian rule.
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>>129656527
You need to look up the definition of 'literal'. You are representative of the decline of /pol/. Well done
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Fiction stories can have multiple meanings depending on the POV of the reader. Has Trump cause this? Hell no. This has been ongoing since commies have been allowed to infiltrate the education system and write their versions of history that glory the worst people like Abe Lincoln and Martin Luther King Jr. Had they been alive today everyone would hate them and know they were both fucking liars. However, they're glorified as great Americans and their stories have shaped views of the world.
Brave New World is another fiction novel that portrays a dystopian future much like the one in 1984. Children of Men is yet another. If you combine aspects of these three stories you'd have a picture of the world we live in today.
The election of Trump has woke up a nation. Some choose a drowsy existence while other are wide awake, hyper aware. This novel is probably selling because the left is hearing about the America they've denied exists, they've tried decades to make it invisible and now they can't not see us. They can't wish us out of existence. They see us as followers of INGSOC but the truth is they live by the motto and always have:
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
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>>129656899

They didn't necessarily create a new system though, just fucked up the system we already had. Every change they made that could have been abused by Obama is now in the hands of Trump, and the noose is tightening.

What goes around comes around.
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>>129658999
I can barely even read your shitty kikebook meme for ants, you fucking faggot. Fuck off back to r*ddit, kikebook, 9fag, or whatever shithole you crawled out of.
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>>129653392
How the fuck do they manage to misrepresent 1984 to this extent? My sides!
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>>129659298
Apparently.

Again though. I did reread it recently. But for the real reason one might read it right now.
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>>129657971
>attacking journalists

What journalists? All I see are propagandists.
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Didn't sales of 1984 go up when Obongo was elected too?

Also

>liberal news media spends forever lying and smearing trump
>trump calls them fake news
>omg newspeak

Electing Trump was a mistake, a civil war would be far better for this country
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The hilarious part about libs eating up the 1984 narrative is that they are literally taking part in it.

Trump is Emmanuel Goldstein.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eNV_uMAR7Eo
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>>129659149
>might drive some cucks to not only purchase the book but actually read and digest the lesson

Even if they read the book, instead of just buying it to virtue signal, I am doubtful they will actually be able to absorb the material. The idiots in question don't know themselves. They are possessed by an ideology and have no comprehension of the evil they are capable of. They can't see the dangers of their ideology because they don't understand it. All they know is they are the good person, and Trump is the bad person.

Anyone who believes in equality of outcome, as a good thing, deserve the gas chamber and a mass grave. Its is pure evil disguised as virtue.
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>>129653392
/pol/ thinks that it's very sad that people read 1984 thinking of Trump when it's the opposite that Orwell meant.

The media even changed the meaning of 1984.


They took Orwellian to another level.
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>>129657798

I dunno, maybe they were trying to tell us something or some shit...
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>>129653392
>and lies are so common that people have to use ‘doublethink’ to understand them

That is the complete opposite of what doublethink does. Doublethink is a form of cognitive dissonance that prevents the people from recognizing lies.

Fucking journalists REEEEEEEE
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>>129657971
>Fake News
Implying lies about central authority figures are not Fake News and shouldn't be called out. Letting the Fake News dichotomy exist leads to the filtered viewpoint the book is set in to serve the authoritarian system. This leads to saying that Trump is a dictator when that is among the dumbest criticisms about him.
>Alternative Facts
When there is presented several pieces of information and there are different outlooks being presented how is that anything related to the book you retard? Competing sources of information that challenge the POV of both sides is important to have. If you Dismiss Fox as Fake News and believe CNN and Washpost are correct about everything you are hurting your own argument.
>attacking journalism
Again you are talking about an institution that perpetuates the controlling of information for political purposes and controlling the actions of individuals. The actions of journalism on both sides of the election should show you how corrupt the industry is and his criticisms of it are justified.Literal attacks on Journalism has not been condoned.
>suppressing free speech
Where? This is a common accusation, but the most people can point to is when he made a threat to cut Berkley's funding half jokingly when they were having issues with free speech and chimping out.
>attacking protesting
Where does he authorize it to be legal to attack protestors? Nowhere.
>Selling Weapons to SA
Trump deserves shit over that, but linking it to 1984 is plain retarded.

You are desperate to link criticism to him when it's actually the opposite. Pls into critical thought before you post.
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>>129653567
Reddit pls
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>>129656899
>believes in the left/right paradigm
They continued the 911/Bush neocon bullshit and even increased upon it. And it goes back further.
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>>129653392
Antifa bought them as a guide for their policies.
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>>129653392
>UK is becoming into a police state while doubling down on it's CCTV because of it's "inability" to control terrorism
>"lets blame drumpf on this since hes creating a dystopia here with his harsh words"

How blind are the mice.
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>>129659173
Yeah trusting those polls worked out so well for you last time
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>meanwhile
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>>129656527
>mental illness
>men can be little girls
>all races are equal
>Islam is a religion of peace
Stop stealing right wing memes, liberalism is a mental disorder is an old Michael savage book, faggot.
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>>129658817
>that pic
fuck off murdoch murdoch. your videos are cringe tier shit, had to stop watching after the election
I hate niggers too but you guys are so awkwardly unfunny
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>>129653392
Great! They'll realize that this shit ain't the dystopia that the media is shilling to them.
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>>129657427

Did they start prosecuting for facebook posts yet or was that just Germany and Palestine so far?
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>>129657971
>mainstream media covers up wikileaks and okeefe videos
>calls trump racist and homophobic even though there's very little evidence to support this
>demonizes trump supporters at every turn and fails to cover most of the violence against them
>manufactures events and interviews their own disguised reporters in order to craft a narrative
>supports the trump-russia narrative by twisting comey's words so badly that comey criticizes them in a public hearing
>not fake news
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>>129660242
Oops and you canada, sorry to leave you out of the big brother party.
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>>129660060
Why must liberals appropriate right wing memes? Shills, snowflakes, triggered, etc. Who do they think they're fooling?
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>>129657971

The MSM are the ones who started calling stuff they couldn't refute "fake news" first.

>protesting

Really? Looks more like smashing windows and damaging property of private businesses, setting fire to the American flag, and hitting opposition over the head with bike locks to me.

>suppressing free speech

The left are the ones who refused to let dangerous faggot and Ann Coulter talk at Berkeley. What are you talking about?

>Trump

I really don't see what's wrong with revoking the goodies, forcing people to sustain themselves, and draining the swamp of globalist spooks.

I can't remember anyone who's read as deep into the leftist narrative as you have. Keep up the good work, goy.
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>>129653738
https://twitter.com/colbertlateshow/status/862119534500749312
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>>129657971
>>129659830
Oh, I just looked at the rest of your comments and how deranged you are. There is no arguing with dumbasses like you so it was probably a waste to type all that up.
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>>129659815

Yeah leave it to a leftist to think doublethink is doubleplusgood. Fucking journo probably barely literate in the first place. Reading comprehension fail. Revolution when?
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>>129653738
it's worse than I thought
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>>129653392
>What does /pol/ think about this?

I think that idiots don't understand that the book was about the far left
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I agree that BNW is a lot closer to where we're headed, though it doesn't get things completely right either.

A lot of people don't seem to realize that the proles in 1984 are controlled much the same way as in BNW, minus the genetic engineering and conditioning. They are fed the same diet of crappy lowest common denominator entertainment that the citizens of the World State are given. Orwell had a lower opinion of the masses than Huxley did, probably reflecting a lifetime of frustration in fighting for socialism. Oceania leaves the masses alone trusting they'll never be a danger as long as they stay poor and ignorant. But the World State takes no such risks. Everyone regardless of class is carefully bred and conditioned.

I don't think we're headed to the caste system of BNW, automation will perform much of what the lower castes in the World State accomplish. And sleep conditioning, so crucial to BNW's setting, is now considered fringe science. But there are other ways to accomplish the same objective. I do believe we will get away from natural births. It will be billed as liberating for women just as birth control was. And over time more and more of the work of raising children will be handled by the state, where they can be raised and conditioned exactly the way Progress demands them to be: free of all bigotry, traditional values, and attachments to anything that isn't obtainable for them lest they become unhappy.
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>>129658514

Don't think we should be shilling for either party imo. They're two sides of the same coin. The people who actually believed in principles of freedom and equality are long gone, and I'm not too sure about Trump either.
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You guys realise Orwell was a communist, warning of the dangers of authoritarian regimes
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>>129655423
This one? It's more wrong about Huxley than Orwell.
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Because the Deep State is fucking real.
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>>129660932
he was an anarchist you dip
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The Obama administration is literally Big Brother.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/05/26/circa-fbi-illegally-shared-espionage-data-on-americans-with-unauthorized-actors-n2332179
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It's fucking ironic, as always the libs are deathly afraid of what they themselves are doing.
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>>129660901
>The people who actually believed in principles of freedom and equality are long gone,

I wouldn't say they they are long gone. The problem is that words like freedom and equality have been hijacked by the far left. When those on the far left talk about liberty they are really talking about license because they have divorced freedom from responsibility.
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>>129659768
>The media even changed the meaning of 1984.
>They took Orwellian to another level.

Yep this is the times we are living in. The only solace I have is that others on this shitty board can see just how damn fucked the whole system is and how it can only get worse due to the state of our institutions that maintain checks and balances.
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>>129656899

One good example would be DACA and increased discretion by the executive branch when it comes to immigration. Then when Trump starts enforcing immigration in his own way, the left cries foul.
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>Liberals buy book
>Starts reading it
>Quickly realize it has nothing to do with trump
>Quickly realize its actually very critical of the left
>Desperately search for something trump realted
>Get to the part where winston is speaking with that guy who's working on newspeaks
>HAHAHAHAA! SEE=?== DRUMPPFFF BTFO XXDDDDDdddddd on facebook, instagram and twitter verified account

If you're gonna LARP about being a cultured person atleast pick the right totalitarian novel
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>>129653392
Ignored is that Trump is the guy that's going to dissolve the deep state surveillance system.
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>>129658999

Speaking just from the infographic, there are aspects from both that I would agree with. Whether or not they actually reflect what is said in either BNW or 1984 I don't know, I haven't read them.

It should be pointed out that it is easier to conceal the truth than to suppress it, though.
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>>129660932
>Being this dumb
>Emu education

Did you even read Homage to Catalonia faggot?
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>>129653392
This isn't only Trump, or even only Obama.

Stop trying to make him a scapegoat you dick, the invisible machine isn't their fault only
>>
1984 is literally baby's first redpill, so it's good.
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What gets me is all the people flailing about over the Handmaid's Tale. Does anyone truly think that Trump, a Billionaire Manhattanite, is going to implement a theocracy? Does anyone really think Trump cares a shit about the pro-life cause and his adoption of it was anything more than pandering to the fundies?
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>>129658999

I am certain BNW is more accurate than 1984 and I haven't even seen that crappy infographic.
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>>129653392

If you want to see Orwell's vision realized, look no further than the modern left.

If you want to see what "Doublethink" looks like, talk to a Leftist or an SJW. Fighting against PC-speech-controls is trying to avoid becoming 1984.
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>>129662000
>read Handmaid's Tale

cuck
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>>129662000
Trump does not know the difference between a Christian and an evangelical. That being said the useful idiots on the left don't know or don't care because they are so wrapped up in hysteria. Whatever real concerns that do exist about the Trump administration are being drowned out because the party is being run by women, who are no better than children, and they are throwing a tantrum.
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>>129661801
i would like to live in the starship trooper universe
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>>129653392
What they're not saying is they were purchased by Trump supporters to counter liberals.
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>>129653392

I think its a great book and more people should read it.

Although I doubt many of the Neo Liberals will see the parallels between themselves and the brainwashed Newspeak spewing proletariat.
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>>129653392
Literally got my first copy in 1984. It is less than 5' away from me right now.
It is the MSM driving these sales currently, as people are trying to understand what the fuck the MSM is doing.
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>>129662000

checked

at this point you can superimpose any villain or entity you personally dislike onto trump. Voldemort, The emperor, Sauron, that guy from the new far cry series, big brother, literally anyone
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>>129653392
This always happens. The same shit happened when Obama won the election. You gotta learn to tune out the autistic screeching, anon.
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>>129654700

>dat pic

they also sure spend alot of police resources to keep Assange in that embassy too
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>>129653392
how much you want to bet none of the libs who bought it actually read it
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>>129653658
truth. this oldfag lived through the 1984 patriot act bush shit. 2016 was brave new world.
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>>129663318

see

>>129661201
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>>129662981
>This always happens. The same shit happened when Obama won the election.

No it didnt. You really have no idea how bad of a predicament we are in, do you? Wait and watch over the coming decades faggot, things have only gotten started.
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>.co.uk
>complaining another country might be trying to catch up to their already exisitng 1984 nightmare

wew.
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>>129659397
Still posting bullshit and not answering a single question. Because the premise is fake crap.

>>129659856
>believes in the left/right paradigm
What in my post indicates that, exactly?

>They continued the 911/Bush neocon bullshit and even increased upon it. And it goes back further.
The administration did, yes (and "lefties" were never shown to be in favor of it). But that is not an answer to the question proposed. Because the premise warranting the question is fake.

>>129661667
That's not one good example, that's the only poor "example" you could muster up to justify a fake as hell shill post.
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>>129657589

This.

I picked up and read 1984 ten years ago when I was in the 8th Grade. If anyone doesn't read it by the time they get past their first few years of High School they've got some big ass problems.
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>>129653392
and milos book is number 1 on amazon what is your point?
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>>129653392
>What does /pol/ think about this?

I didn't think the left could shock me. But here they are, buying books that describe a totalitarian nightmare, yet they don't realize it's about them.
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>>129653392
The irony is that the left can't see that they're 1984-esque too. "Political Correctness" sounds like a term Orwell could have written
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>>129654558
This anon gets it.
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>>129663575
nice proxy murdoch murdoch
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>>129655084
"white people are illegal immigrants"
"let all the mexicans in, nobody is illegal!"
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>>129654700
>>129655225
>>129655607
>>129655866
>>129661641
>>129661887
>>129662424
>>129663575
go away Murdoch Murdoch
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>>129653567

>>>plebbit
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>>129653392
Leftists have zero self-awareness.

They're the ones using Newspeak, controlling thought crimes and progressively becoming more totalitarian and insane. Their "news" stories are laughable, and somehow they manage to get past the cognitive dissonance of these absurdities and LARP as the rebels and good guys in this scenario.

Truly liberalism is a form of insanity.
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PROTIP

1984 is and will always be an instruction manual. We are never delving into Orwellian tactics. They have and will always be used because they work.

The book is 68 years old and people act just as human as they did then.
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>>129660186
>>129664431

>murdoch murdoch

so there are two blokes that are murdoch murdoch or you are just some low IQ fat burger nigger with real shit pattern recognition?

Poor little burger nigger
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>>129664945
I thought you guys were good at bants? You should call him a burger nigger again.
>>
They should be reading Brave New World
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SJW Leftists are full of bellyfeels
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>>129665078
nah the fat dumb cunt got the message. But I will call you a burger nigger - burger nigger.
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>>129654645
I'd agree. My wife bought it for me in December because I kept telling her we were seeing doubled down doublespeak, and I didn't have a physical copy. I reread it and spot on. Trump is Goldstein. I thought to myself when i finished it -- there's hope some commie can accidentally redpill themselves -- then I said: >>129654371
If the commies read we'd not be in this position.
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>>129666227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNV_uMAR7Eo
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>>129653658
>not realizing both are simultaneously true

Hell even Orwell couldn't have predicted us carrying around the telescreens in our own pocket. Reality is more extreme than the book.
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