Are there any Nationalist or even non-biased books about the

>>129607819
i know its annoying as fuck
I remember a documentary starting with ^people celebrating the republican victory (1932) i think
and when they show the nationalist side, it goes like heavy music; dark clouds

I don't think so OP

>>129607819
The republicans were communists and anarchists who turned on each other. They destroyed churches and murdered priests, murdered anyone who wasn't a communist. It was pretty despicable.

>>129607819
Maybe. I found a quite objective look at the Civil War but it's in Spanish.

Most Spanish Civil War books were made by leftist cucks who fought for the Republicans.

>>129608388
objective documentary about*

No because the Republicans were valiant liberators defending against evil fascists.

>>129607819
Hugh Thomas maybe ...

i started reading for whom the bell tolls,at 100 pages in i had to stop,too much "muh evil fascist" things going on.
i don't think you will find what you are looking for

>>129607819
Asking any spaniard grandpa, republicans were murderers.

>>129607819
George Orwell's "Homage to Catalonia" is pretty good. Although he fought for the republican side, he was in an anarchist workers' militia which ended up being suppressed by the communists towards the end of the war. It offers a good detailing of how the "revolution" in barcelona failed and his disillusionment with soviet policy without unfairly portraying the nationalists as goose-stepping miniature adolfs

The Victorious Counterrevolution perhaps. Just beware the author is a kike and he tries to slip some persecution of the Jews in there.

>>129608776
if you had finished it, you'd have gotten to the part where the communist guerrillas betray everyone lol

>>129607819
>Every one I find, even the scholarly books, portray the Republicans as valiant liberators defending against the evil fascists.

That's literally what happened. How is it biased?

>>129609155
i couldn't,that old lady annoyed me too much

>>129607819
also, the film "There Be Dragons". look it up.

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>>129609189
Nationalists did nothing wrong, tell me one thing wrong nationslists did.

Republicans murdered jose antonio.

>>129607819
This book has plenty of redpills against revolutionary spain and revolutionary france against the church
https://www.amazon.com/Bearing-False-Witness-Debunking-Anti-Catholic/dp/1515960196

>>129609403
nationalists failed to support the reich. Enough said.

>>129609403
>tell me one thing wrong nationslists did.

Doing a coup d'etat because they didn't agree with the election results?

>>129609574
kkekeekkek, we just had a incredibly bloody civil war, now lets recklessly and without purpose join a world war, where we know the nazis will lose, and as a result Spain will become communist when they inevitably get backhanded

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Here you go.

It's proven Frente Popular stole the elections which provoke Spanish Civil War.

Also, backup link
>https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.libertaddigital.com%2Fopinion%2Fhistoria%2Fel-pucherazo-del-frente-popular-en-1936-1276239709.html&edit-text=&act=url

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>>129607819
>Bilboa

>>129608388
Can you give me the name? I speak Spanish and would like to see.

>>129609590
You mean elections in which the left won via electoral fraud nad freed those anarchist niggers who made an insurrection which killed 2000 persons?

I was in Madrid a few weeks ago for a company trip. I asked the tour company people for directions to take an excursion to visit the Valley of the Fallen. They looked at me like I had three heads. "I'm amazed you even know what that is" one of them said.

>>129609574

We did Division Azul and were the best ones in the Eastern Front, shut the fuck up. You later supported us for decades because we hated commies so fucking much so you could have a country in US against the soviets so you can't say shit

>>129609590
They faked the results

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>>129607819
Obligatory OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILyQjVpTYSI
...And that's why Trump's victory means nothing. Franco ruled Spain for 30 years, but culturally his regime apologysts had zero relevance. The result? Today we consider today that Republicans were a bunch of Dindus, and nobody talks about their killings of religious people
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatos_M%C3%A1rtires_Claretianos_de_Barbastro
Plus pic related

>>129610076
>>129610135
Classic excuse. When someone you don't like wins the elections it's because of voter fraud.

>>129610076
and*
>>129609940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHDkkijLp50
It's a documentary which explains what lead to the Civil War.

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>>129610305
There's literal proof about it, holy shit, what do you even know about this country?

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>>129610458
Let's assume it's true, why didn't Franco allow free elections after he won if he was so concerned about democracy being tampered by voter fraud?

>>129609590
you dont know shit
it has now been demonstrated (some months ago) that the last elections were the commies won were rigged. The uprising of the army didnt come out of nowhere, during 5 years all the left did was push for a commie revolution killing political opponents, burning hundreds of churches, killing priests, raping and killing nuns. the right were no angels either but the left was really radicalised during those times. It was not a democratic republic, it was a pre-revolutionary leftie republic with its main goal being the instauration of a communist regime. ignoring more than 50% of spaniards who werent communist.
read a fucking book before spouting shit

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>>129609935
*bombs you*

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>>129610737
I kek'd

>>129610707
this is also a very simplified explanation its surprising how complex those times where, luckily it had the best (not perfect) outcome of those possible

>>129610650
You know the coup wasn't lead by him, right?
When he became the leader of the right-wing group the coup already failed and the civil war already began.
He was actually quite doubtful about joining in at first.
The coup was staged to restore the Monarchy, just like the first republic, but ended up in a pseudo-fascist dictatorship.

By the way, people should trace paralels between Spanish Civil War and Mexican Cristeros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pu4gst3FmI

>>129610650
Because Democracy wasn't a thing back then. I mean, the only true democratic countries at that time were US, UK, France and Czekoslovakia.

>>129610308
Thanks anon I'll watch it, seems good.

>>129609155
That's what I remember, the Commies were just using them like useful idiots and basically the MC was a cuck, basically how Hemingway felt irl

>>129611147
It's pretty similar with the exception that the Republic fucking hated everyone leaning right.

>>129607819
Anthony Beevor is surprisingly neutral given the fact he wrote his book in 82'. While he's certainly critical of the Nationalists, he doesn't whitewash the lefists, not only reporting on the atrocities comitted against the civilians but also blaming their retarded land ownership reforms for the famine.

>>129611637
there's even a scene in the final chapter where the commie leader turns around and shoots some of his own men as they retreat from the bridge haha

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>>129607819
you need a new franco

>>129612125
If I remember correctly, even Republicans hated their commanders, always leading them towards death, while the Nationalists were better organized and knew when to attack.

I think there was this insane guy who was shot by his own men in the back because they could no longer stand it.

>>129612544
Pretty much, the Civil War kinda sounds too eerie similar if the left and right duke it out now

>>129607819
Also give Homage to Catalonia a try. The prose is top notch and gives You a perspective why a POUM volunteer ended up writing 1984.

>>129607819
Pretty much anything by Stanley Payne is even handed.

Burnett Bolloten, The Spanish Civil War: Revolution and Counterrevolution

There are two books by a historian Michael Seidman I think he is an ultra individualist leftist type but he implodes anarchist myths about spain, pick up his two books The Victorious Counterrevolution, and Republic of Egos.

-Combat over Spain: Memoirs of a Nationalist fighter pilot 1936-1939

-Franco's Crypt: Spanish Culture and Memory Since 1936

-Franco's Justice: Repression in Madrid after the Spanish Civil War

Blows away the notion that Franco was muh hitler.

-The 'Red Terror' and the Spanish Civil War: Revolutionary Violence in Madrid

Also if you can read Spanish Pio Moa is supposedly interesting, never read him though.

>>129610650

You are that much of a fucking GILIPOLLAS.

proofs were alredy posted and explained to retards like you, go fuck yourself pastanigger

>>129607819
My grand-grandfather fought in this war. Are there any good western historical works about soviet participation?

>>129612305

He liked prostitutes and party too much, damm you Juancar.

He also killed his youngest brother btw

>>129612861

Also check out The Origins of Franco's Spain : the Right, the Republic and Revolution, 1931-1936 by Richard Alan Hodgson Robinson.

Another interesting and somewhat unusual source for criticisms of the anarchists in Spain, at least for their incompetence and inability to bring about their own so-called liberating program into effect can be found in the writings of left communist types, ICC, IBRP, and so on. this is from a marxist perspective but some interesting nuggets of information in them as well.

>>129612754
Yeah, I agree the Civil War is pretty spooky when you go deep within it. You pretty much see tons of atrocities committed. One such as people blaming each other on being either fascist or communist and then """take walks with soldiers"""" to never being heard from again.

>>129612760
Paweł Skibiński says it's a manipulative rag

My grandpa proudly bombed the shit out of the Republicans. He was more proud of the comunista killed there than of any Brit bombed in Africa or UK.

Also this funny bit.
https://youtu.be/tYv-yp-nidk?t=131

>>129609590
There were a lot of influencies of Soviet union in 1936. Also, it was a cold war inside spain until it exploded. Murders of both sides were bad, Army and cops were watching how the country was falling to commie ideas and they had to act. It could have been less bloody if that stupid Franco wasn't in charge but Primo de Rivera and "old skirts". There are sayings about Franco "killing" each political rivals he had to be on power, even when war finished

>>129614054
Skibiński believes that anyone who would dare criticize Franco is a stalinist. Also WSieciHistoria is beyond fucking retarded in their version of history.
BTW I didn't propose Homage as a pean to the Nationalists but rather as an interesting read.

>>129614535
Based Italians. https://youtu.be/Yu-ZHihLNK4

>>129614729
Too bad the Republican government made up a crime he did to in-prison him and take him far way from Madrid.
Did you know Franco tried several ways to save him but in the end couldn't do it?

>>129615283
Yeah, I read a lot about but I'm sure he didnt try enough. Even high military ranks in Republica army were trying to save Jose Antonio. He could have been such a great man and leader

>>129615591
Fucking Largo Caballero should've been gassed before even fucking being born.

20.000 portuguese Viariatos voluntered to the nationalist side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st67ssYh-kk

>>129615961
Based Portuguese. You helped saving Spain from becoming another communist shithole like the Soviet Union.
Had Largo Caballero become ruler of Spain, he would've tried to annex all your country.

>>129607819
Naw bro they were actually fighting fascism, like the real thing, not what some tumblrina calls fascism while acting like a fascist.

>>129607819
There are a couple of them by Cesar Vidal but for the most part the ministry of Truth...I mean, Education tends to forbid them.

>>129618168
More like trying to kill Spain and the fascists saved the country.

>>129608586
They were commie fucks too eager to kill each other to even put a proper war front tho.

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>>129618308
In terms of 1-10, how similar are we right now to the Weimar Republic?
I think we are the most degenerate Southern European country.

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>>129609403
250th Division killed more soviets in the course of three days than the EEUU in the whole Cold War.

>>129607819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYztHhI4BO0
This doc is quite neutral about the conflict at least more neutral than my old history books
Subs are more or less ok

>>129619887
It's neutral but it doesn't explain shit, but it's worth seeing just for the video.
It talks about the brave Gudari resistance for a while and then suddenly Bilbao has "fallen", jump to next thing. And all over again.

>>129610308
This is the same doc as this one, but this one has the options of auto subs>>129619887

>>129620113
It's pretty hard to explain everything surrounding the Civil War in 2 hours, to be honest. It's still pretty good as it shows footage from those days.

>>129620113
It is more focused on the existing footage, it will just narrate the results if there is not.
Not everyone had a camera at the time.