DRUMPF TRAVEL BAN BLOCKED

>>129604615
Off yourself, Mike.

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>Mr President I think you should stop tweeting it's not going to help your agenda

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>>129604615
Gorsuch

>>129604615
>trump broke a promise because obama stocked the court with judicial activists.

>>129604615
drumpf fails again because he hates the fact that the constitution says every person has a right to be an american because borders are just manmade lines on a map.

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>>129604615
>9th circuit

>>129604615
Greatest Democracy on Earth

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>>129604828
>>129604946

6 out of 10 9th circuit judges are registered Republicans. Stop defending him

why even have a president and congress if the courts can just decide everything for us

its almost as if the president has the constitutional right to regulate immigration and the unelected unappointed judiciary is overstepping its bounds

>>129604946
>banning people based on nationality is just and fair

this is nothing more than a simple-minded knee jerk reaction.

>>129604615

Is 9th circuit same as the supreme court? CBA to google.

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>>129604615
>9th Circus
As if this was a surprise. Everyone knows SCOTUS will be the final authority and we have Gorsuch now.

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>>129604615
pepper your angus for loads of it

>>129605155
No, the 9th circuit is retard land that even companies avoid.

>>129604615
/r/prematurecelebrations
gorsuch

>>129604946
>don't take him at his word, take him at his feelings
t.trumpfags

>>129604615
Were you the Grab driver that raped their passenger?

>>129604615
Your "art" sucks. Thanks for chasing away all our good drawfags, bitch.

>>129605340
6 out of the 10 judges were Republican appointees. Another failure for Trump because he can't shut up

Dumbass shouldn't tweet.

>>129604615

now it goes to the supreme court where these lower courts will, AGAIN, get BTFO.

all these lower courts are doing, is losing credibility.

>>129605097
>the unelected unappointed judiciary

oops
>There are currently 179 judges on the U.S. courts of appeals authorized by Congress in 28 U.S.C. § 43 pursuant to Article III of the U.S. Constitution. These judges are nominated by the President of the United States and confirmed by the United States Senate.

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>>129604615

>>129604615
It's like they want the 9th circuit to be disbanded and reformed.
>80% of decisions are overturned
>still keep going

>>129605716
>The courts will support the travel ban this time, says increasingly nervous Trump supporter for 9th time

>>129605102
Obama banned people based on nationality, if "banning people" means preventing them from entering the US

>>129604615

What's it like being a shitposting manchild?

>>129605833

This is the first time Trump has possibilities in the Supreme Court with Gorsuch

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>>129604615
Trump is like a teenager boy trying to have sex with a catholic qt raised by strict parents.

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Daily Reminder

>>129605155
the United States courts of appeals is 1 step below the Supreme Court
the court of appeals is split into 11 different courts, each with its own part of the US that it works in

>>129605817
>Having such a poor understanding of that statistic

Of decisions from the Ninth circuit that were reviewed by the Supreme court, 20% were affirmed, 19% were vacated, and 61% were reversed.

However, only 0.15% of Ninth circuit decisions are reviewed by the supreme court. So 99.85% of Ninth circuit decisions go unchallenged.

>>129605102
Banning people from failed states that can't or won't confirm who is a citizen and who isn't is perfectly fine

>>129604615
Is that the famous 'WINNING'?
why did /pol/ push for that clueless President?

>>129606028
best sex ever, though

>>129605679
t. israelite

>>129605833
>courts

one court. the supreme court. and they will side with trump.

the lower courts are irrelevant in this case and are a temporary roadblock. once the ban passes the supreme court, it will set solid precedent for further, much harsher, travel bans. and those the lower courts will not be able to stop because they will be overruled.

the democrat machine is going to die because we are going to stop travel from all brown countries, and it's all because they wouldnt stand down for 6 muslim terror countries.

lefties eternally btfo. goodbye voting bloc. by 2020 the US will be back over 75% white, and climbing.

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>>129604615
>Laughing at the only man doing something about terrorism

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>>129604615
We know who to blame when the attacks happen and its not gonna be trump.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmWJMuC_Jx8

>>129605650
>6 out of the 10 judges were Republican appointees
you mean easily bought neocon shills

>>129606482

>implying most terrorists aren't US citizens who get indoctrinated over the internet

all you need to be a terrorist anymore is a car and a knife, you end up doing as much damage as you would with a gun or bomb.

Too bad Trump doesn't have to listen to these fascist judges. His authority supersedes theirs.

He was trying to be transparent about this, gave everyone a chance to get with the program, or out themselves. Now is the time to take off the kid gloves.

>>129605377
>not using named DC

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>>129604615
S
dumb old fat man, literal moron

>>129606640

Got any statistics to back up that cartload of bullshit?

>>129605102
Yes it is just and fair for the citizens of your country you retard. This country was fully okay with and actively banned more than half the world from immigrating to this country for 2 centuries.

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>>129606517

> The ban was only 90 days
> The Time period is already over
> Any person has had over 1/3 of a year to get into the country now
> The banned countries barely had any immigration with anyhow.

The only thing this would do is strengthen the executive order powers, which conservatives chimped out over during obama's term.

Also why doesn't Trump go through congress? He has majorities in both houses.

>>129606642
>His authority supersedes theirs

This could not be more wrong.

You are a baldfaced liar.

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>>129606172
>We lost 80% of the games we played.
>But we only played 10% of the games we were schedule for
>Therefore 92% of our games weren't losses
>We're a great team!

>>129606482
>Implying the travel ban would actually do something about terrorism

Some reminders:
There is zero evidence that current US vetting procedures are inadequate
There is zero evidence of an unmet need in our national security that would be fixed with the travel ban
There are no examples of terror attacks that would have been prevented by a travel ban
Attacks by muslims on US soil are committed by immigrants who have lived in the US for many years or second generation muslims

In short the travel ban is a piece of knee jerk legislation based on rhetoric with no evidence supporting the rhetoric. I'll also remind you that when the DOJ tried to appeal the block of the first travel ban, they were asked to provide similar evidence by the judge overseeing the appeal, and were unable to do so.

>>129606640
Hmmm... U.S. citizens? Did they happen to be Muslim? Did they happen to recently emigrate here from a Muslim majority country? Hmm just like how most of the terrorist attacks in England are just caused by English people!

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>>129604615
OHHH STOP TWEETING. Trump's tweets are his #1 presidency's killer. What the hell is the guy doing?
I bet he is going to complain about it on twitter later on.

>>129604615

Hold on a second.

Why doesn't Trump just keep signing executive orders (with essentially the same text)? There is no law against signing more executive orders with the same text. Just keep issuing the same decrees. Sure they will keep blocking them, so you issue another and another. If anything it's a political statement.

>>129606932
How about we just keep everyone out of our country and stop trying to legitimize communism? Faggot

>>129606172
>tells me I have poor understanding of that statistic
>goes on to make the stat even worse because he doesn't understand stats

I'm assuming this isn't from the supreme court or it would be spammed everywhere

>>129604948
i know it's bait but it still makes me mad
so have a (you)

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>>129606640
>>129606932
>arguing the obvious

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>>129606154
Daily Reminder

>>129605026
(((((((Republicans))))))

>>129605102
Who the fuck said life is just and fair?

>>129606932

Mate it's not what it does or doesn't do that concerns me. It sets a precedent and shows how weak the presidency has become. Any attempt at defending the borders will be shot down, if even a measly temporary travel ban can't get passed.

>>129606932

There are no examples of terror attacks that would have been prevented by a travel ban
Attacks by muslims on US soil are committed by immigrants who have lived in the US for many years or second generation muslims

I am going to assume you are baiting, because this is quite the fuck up in logical thinking.

>>129607522
>unpopulated wilderness

Only the major cities matter.

>>129604615
9th Circuit is reversed 85% of the time.

Looks good for Trump at SCOTUS.

>>129604615
>The text is constitutional but we don't like what you've said so it's unconstitutional
Hmm these rulings really make me think

>>129606482
If you do something about terrorism, you lose

>>129606932
We can't vet people from those countries, because those countries are failed states with zero infrastructure for identifying people and handing over records.

Holy fuck you liberals are not only idiots but suicidal idiots.

>>129606325
>by 2020 the US will be back over 75% white
this is the burgers version of superpower 2030

>>129606932
Which is why we just need to ban any muslims coming into the country and make life here unlivable for them.

>presidents have banned foreigners for decades before this
>it's a legitimate power the president has
>keep blocking it

to be fair, it wouldn't have worked very well since it excluded Saudi Arabia and the vast majority of islamic terrorists are all funded and deployed by the terrorist monarchy of Saudi Arabia, followed by Pakistan or some other mudstan country.

>>129607522
Barely anyone lives in that red bit you fucking incompetent neet.

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>>129607649
Thats why the electoral college exists you fucking retard, so the degenerate state of California doesn't control our elections

>>129606901
>Also why doesn't Trump go through congress? He has majorities in both houses.
So that he can expose the rats hiding in our legal system first.

droompf is finished

just in time for more cultural enrichment trucks

he'll be vindicated if anything happens on july 4th

>>129605102
Next you're gonna try to say that a nationality-based travel ban is racist

>>129604615
cant he just make a deal

>>129604615
>Dem appointed judges blocks Trump policies

WOOOOOOOOOOW IT REALLY MAKES ME THINK

>>129606640
we must ban cars and knives!

>>129606711
>paying more for only a tiny improvement

>>129607639
Think just a little bit harder. It means that when these people immigrate, they are vetted and cleared. Radicalization that pushes them to commit attacks happens while they are living in the US. It's a process that occurs entirely within our country. This is not something that can be stopped through changing vetting procedures or blocking travel.

>>129605026
the 9th has WAYYYY more than 10 judges you fucking dipshit

>>129606932
you totally don't sound like a spineless fag.

>>129605097
now you are starting to ask the jewish question.

>>129605097
>the president has the constitutional right to regulate immigration

So long as he or she does not violate the Constitution. The President is not above laws, and certainly not above the supreme law of the land.

The Judiciary is a check on the President's power, and there is ample evidence that Trump's "travel ban" is designed to keep Muslims out. That is a violation of the Constitution.

>>129607072
By English citizens who were born there, yes, actually.

>>129604828
Wtf. They ruled on what was said after the fact. Is this real fucking life?

>>129607760
>Implying vetting relies on the infrastructure of the country an immigrant is from

Potential immigrants are vetted for 2-3 years by the state department and every single intelligence agency.

>>129606325

This. The left doesn't seem to understand legal precedent - if he didn't get it to the supreme court, it could always be overturned later on.

If the supreme court sides with the travel ban, it gives Trump a free pass to ban any country he likes, and it couldn't be overturned. Mass detention of banned nationals and deportation back to banned countries would be perfectly legal.

Obama kicked out 2.5 million - does anyone think America is suddenly going to change this policy?

>>129608192
the constitution does not apply to foreigners, especially ones not even in our borders.

>>129605940
>with Gorsuch

Gorsuch is not going to ignore the evidence of an anti-muslim animus just because he's conservative. Judges do not rule according to party lines.

>>129604615
won't the supreme court just overturn it?

>>129604615

>9th circuit

did anyone actually think this wouldn't happen?

>>129605719
yeah, unelected, did we vote for them?

>>129608192
>there is ample evidence that Trump's "travel ban" is designed to keep Muslims out. That is a violation of the Constitution.

No it's fucking not, it is entirely up to the executive to decide who and how many, or none at all.

>>129606482
>Arming the puppetmaster of ISIS is fighting terrorism
Top kike

>>129608325
YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON
THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO FOREIGNERS
WE CAN BAN LITERALLY ANY NATION, FOR ANY REASON, AT ANY TIME
WE BANNED THE FUCKING KRAUTS AND JAPS WHEN WWII WAS GOING ON
I'M PRETTY SURE THERE WAS FUCKING ANIMUS FOR THE JAPS WHEN WE WERE PUTTING THEM IN LITERAL CAMPS YOU FUCKING SHILL
KILL YOURSELF.

>>129608282
It applies to the United States of America, which means the Constitution prevails. The ban is not banning people from entering Canada, for example.

>>129608372
You didn't vote for your President, the Electoral College did. Otherwise Hillary, who got the most votes, would have won.

Not a direct democracy, remember sweetie? It's a Republic ;)

>>129608058
Think a little bit harder. We cannot vet them well, which is why this happens. This is inherent in Islam and it is not compatible with the west. I have no obligation to let them into my country, no one does. They will verifiably make the country a worse place, and we have every logical reason to want to stop any inflow of Islam to this country.

There is your (you) now go back to your pilate classe's and starbucks.

>>129608423
You have a child's understanding of the law.

If Trump never said anything at all about Muslims, this EO would not be a problem. Because he can't keep his mouth shut, it has become a problem.

>>129606932
>There is zero evidence that current US vetting procedures are inadequate
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/08/lawmakers-probe-claim-doj-aided-iraqi-terror-suspect-days-before-november-election.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/31/obama-refugee-vetting-procedure-enabled-iraqi-terr/

>>129608487
You are literally fucking retarded
we could say tomorrow that we are banning all Africans outside of the USA and we would be within our rights to do so, you are a fucking moron. The constitution DOES NOT APPLY TO NON-AMERICANS
Drink bleach

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The magnitude of ass blast that will emanate from the Left when the SCOTUS finally vindicates Trump on this clearly Constitutional order will be biblical.

>>129604615
Those so called (((judges))) are identifying themselves for the purge.

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Hell yeah. Drumpf gettin' a taste of his own medicine.

We liberals and progressives be sittin' back and enjoying the show whilst alt-right tards scramble around defendin' every dumb move their fat orange "god emperor" makes. Just remember y'all, history gon frown upon yo bigot asses.

Peace out.

>>129604948
Are you shit posting or just this fucking dumb?

>>129608628
The Constitution applies to America and the American Government, which is the issue. Trump's EO targets according to religion, and that is a violation of the Constitution's Establishment Clause.

>>129606908

In this matter, the president's authority on immigration supersedes any court.

Read for once in your life you stupid faggot.

>>129608597
Judges think they can rule a law or order to be unconstitutional because of what someone says about it now? That's an interesting new precedent.

>>129608808
>the president's authority on immigration supersedes any court.

So long as it does not violate the Constitution.

>>129605102
>Keeping the most likely sources of pain, suffering, and damage to your citizens using centuries of data from sending their martyrs is a knee-jerk reaction

>>129607321

His tweeting is slowly toppling the corporate media cabal. They can't fucking stand it that they aren't the gatekeepers of information anymore.

>>129606932
>In short the travel ban is a piece of knee jerk legislation based on rhetoric with no evidence supporting the rhetoric.
So what?
The NY SAFE act was a piece of knee jerk legislation based on rhetoric with no evidence supporting the rhetoric, I didn't see any courts tripping over themselves to block it's implementation.

Knee jerk legislation is not in itself judicial grounds for review. The only reason this is being blocked is because Democrats value foreigners over Americans.

>>129608597
Civil Rights and anti-discrimination laws do not apply to FUCKING FOREIGNERS you disingenuous cunt.

>>129608768
you do realize that we can ban non-american muslims right?
Are you pretending to be retarded? Non-Americans don't have rights, they don't have a right to come here. Regardless of their religion, and if it was a muslim ban, there would be far more countries on that ban list.

>>129608878
foreigners do not have constitutional rights

>>129606482
Sucking off Saudi Arabia isn't fighting terrorism

>>129608768
The constitution is a meme. It has no consistent basis for how we have run our country for centuries. These living document people are purely ideologically motivated and have no care for the meaning behind any of the amendments. Muslims and non-whites were banned from being naturalized citizens for centuries, despite having the same constitution! Crazy right! It is almost like we just do what is beneficial for our country, or agreed upon by the common man at the time.

9th circuit wipeout when?

>>129607813
hes not really exposing anything about the 9th court nobody doesn't already know about

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mfw winning the case in the Supreme Court will give Trump the legal precedence to make his order an ACTUAL MUSLIM BAN that will last for his 8 years in office.

>>129608878
also you keep ignoring that we literally put Japs in camps, and banned them from entering the country
how did that not "violate" the constitution?
Oh wait, the ban didn't BECAUSE JAPS DON'T HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

It's hilarious watching the sore losers grasp at futile obstacles and claim victory, all because they can't accept that we smacked Hillary's smug face into a thousand pieces and denied the pussy pass.

>>129608192
>there is ample evidence that Trump's "travel ban" is designed to keep Muslims out. That is a violation of the Constitution.
Wrong.
The constitution does not grant foreigners a right to enter the United States.

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>>129608681
YAS SLAAAAY

>>129608878

The courts aren't even blocking it on constitutional grounds, because they can't because it isn't unconstitutional.

This is a clear case of a corrupt court.

>>129608058
but its the children of immigrants, you cant vet their future children who are already born

>>129608192

>and there is ample evidence that Trump's "travel ban" is designed to keep Muslims out. That is a violation of the Constitution

FDR signed EO9066 that locked up the Japanese, Italians and Germans. This was during wartime, and technically the USA is still at war - notice how Trump has ramped up displays of US might. This was to establish acts that constitute acts of war, so he can argue that both the war in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq are ongoing. This means he's under the same legal power as FDR to sign anti-immigration EO's.

There are many other EO's that relate to immigration as well, suggesting that a president can do whatever he wants via EO. Trump is trying to push it to the supreme court so there can be no dispute.

He might make the bans indefinite after he get's the ruling he wants.

>>129608325

Gorsuch is going to uphold what the law says. The left lost the moment it claimed that Hillary or Obama imposing the travel ban would be A-OK.

>>129604615
Of course the 9th Circuit blocked it. I don't think anybody was expecting the (((9th Circuit))) not to block it. They're essentially a leftist activist group at this point. His ban will be upheld in the SCOTUS when the time comes..

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>>129605102
??

Obama did the same thing. And he was right to do it.

The only reason anyone pretends to give a shit now is because it's an orange doing it.

>>129609134
this, in none of the reports does it mention the constitution, too bad for them, that's all SCOTUS cares about.

>>129609082

That's what it's starting to look like.

Leftists are so near-sighted they hoot and holler every time they think they've won a small victory against Trump, they are totally oblivious to the big picture.

>>129609148
I hear this argument from libtards the other times. "It's their kids!" That makes it even worse. That means assimilation has failed after the fact.

>>129608192
>he or she
>she

lol

>>129608372
thanks, i never said they were elected though, read the entire post again

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It's going to be so fucking hilarious once the travel ban goes in lol

>>129607639
You are absolutely wrong

>>129608878
You don't have a constitutional right to travel to the united states if you're not a citizen.

In fact even it IS a muslim ban it's still constitutionally sound.

Which is why once this reaches the supreme court it will be all over but the crying and the Open Borders/Soros groups who are trying to argue that everyone in the would is protected by the united states constitution, which they are very clearly not.

>>129609305
It'll be like election day all over again.

Reminder that the Ninth Circuit got beaten 8-0 in SCOTUS recently after claiming that citizens can attack police.

When SCOTUS uphold's the president's authority, as it will, I hope Trump uses the new precedent to widen the ban and for longer, just to demoralize the left even more.

>>129607649
>Only the major cities matter

And that is why you lost. That kind of thinking.

>>129608227
It's the 9th Cir. To them, the rules of civil procedure are more like suggestions.

And the only reason the court put those particular lines in was because a bunch of newspapers last week ran headlines proclaiming "Trump's lawyers tell him to stop tweeting!"

Basically, the left is afraid of Trump's power to bypass the propaganda machine that is the MSM and speak directly to the American people, so they've been pushing hard to try and get him to stop for the past two weeks.

If anyone fucks us here it's going to be Kennedy. He's become quite the cuck in his old age, and we all know the 3 Bolshevik Jews and the wise Latina will vote to destroy America no matter what.

Don't fuck us, Kennedy. Read the Constitution.

>>129605026
there are 29 judges

>>129609305
>election day 3.0
first the election
then the comey hearing
now this?
it's delicious

>>129608863
>Behind the casual assertion of consular nonreviewability lies a dangerous idea—that this Court lacks the authority to review high-level government policy of the sort here. Although the Supreme Court has certainly encouraged deference in our review of immigration matters that implicate national security interests, see infra Section IV.A, it has not countenanced judicial abdication, especially where constitutional rights, values, and principles are at stake. To the contrary, the Supreme Court has affirmed time and again that "it is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is." Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137, 1 Cranch 137, 177, 2 L. Ed. 60 (1803). This "duty will sometimes involve the 'resolution of litigation challenging the constitutional authority of one of the three branches,' but courts cannot avoid their responsibility." Zivotofsky ex rel. Zivotofsky v. Clinton, 566 U.S. 189, 196, 132 S. Ct. 1421, 182 L. Ed. 2d 423 (2012) (quoting INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919, 943, 103 S. Ct. 2764, 77 L. Ed. 2d 317 (1983)).

>>129605719
>thinks appointed = elected
You should learn words before you try to use them against others.

>>129609426
>Reminder that the Ninth Circuit got beaten 8-0 in SCOTUS recently after claiming that citizens can attack police.
source? What the fuck is this bullshit?

S

The 9th circuit is the worst commie-corral kangaroo court in the fucking United States. In every case, they legislate from the bench.

Fucking sickening.

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I wish a Muslim immigrant or son of an immigrant would shoot up a gay club and just massacre dozens of liberal homos in a horrific display of violence. Might be the only way for them to wake up.

>>129609451
He works for the Pope.

Who cares. There is still the Supreme Court. And if they're also going to ignore that one immigration act under FDR that actually gives Trump the authority to do this then the entire federal judicial system needs to be purged and reformed for how shit and overreaching it is.

>>129609451
Kennedy literally only cucked on gay marriage, which literally does not matter, stop picking that hill to die on.

>>129604615
>PRESS S TO SPIT ON DRUMPF FOR BREAKING HIS PROMISE!
He did this to himself.
The rest of us are just happy he's shot himself in the foot again.

>>129608058
If the ban deterred people from comming in the first place it would..less mussies, less terririst.

>>129604615
>>129604946
>judicial activists

Here's that buzzword again. Thanks, Hannity.

>>129609094
Those "Japs" were US Citizens, and national origin is not protected by the Bill of Rights, but religion is.

>>129609112
Again, you don't understand. The issue is not whether foreigners have a right to enter. The issue is whether or not the President can ban Muslims. And he cannot.

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>>129605102

Obama did it 19 times, just as legally and legitimately as Trump. A 120 day moratorium is not a "ban". A ban on people from nations we bomb is not imprudent.

These Judges have stepped outside their Constitutional power yet again.

We are nearing a Constitutional crisis.

>>129604615
Trump can't help that the travel ban keeps getting struck down by cucked judges. As long as he keeps pushing forward with it he's doing what he was elected to do.

>>129608192
No there is zero evidence fag! The order is constitutional. Explicitly

>>129609485
>this law is constitutional but you said mean things so it's unconstitutional now
>having anything to do with what you've posted

>>129605102
Obama did it and got away with it because he's a nigger. Same way he was awarded the Peace Nobel Prize for breaking his promise of stopping current wars in middle east.

>>129609679
>Those "Japs" were US Citizens

The children maybe, but the adults.

>>129609485
>You seem to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps.... Their power [is] the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots. It has more wisely made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves. - Thomas Jefferson

>>129604615
Mike, you ruined our flag's reputation.

>>129609539

This happened last year in Orlando. The corporate propaganda apparatus buried all references to Islam.

Assuming you genuinely don't know and aren't being facetious.

>>129608959
You can't tell that to liberals, they simply won't listen.

>>129608325
You fucking fag. You are stating abrstract. You can not litigate by abstract

>>129609669

If the shit stinks.

>>129609797
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korematsu_v._United_States

>>129609679
the President can absolutely ban muslims from entering the country
non-american muslims, do not have constitutional rights
what the fuck do you not get?

Seven words, Mike:
The Supreme Court of the United States.
You know, its power is above some irrelevant circuit.

>>129609803
Too bad that isn't law.

>>129604615
S

Ninth Circus needs to go

>>129609558
There's the other cuck judge who let Obama care stand

>>129609956
too bad for you, non-americans don't have rights, and banning them on a religious basis is perfectly legal.
Hell we did it to the Jews in the past

>>129607522
All I see is Hawaii was a mistake and the white house needs to be rebuilt in Oklahoma.

>>129604615
So why don't we just send all the refugees to California? That's what they want right? Just prevent them from being able to get out of California.

>>129609918
>the President can absolutely ban muslims from entering the country

No, he can't. Establishment Clause.

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when theres a terrorist attack, remember to blame the lefites and the judges responsible for blocking Obamas.....sorry 'Trumps' travel ban.

>>129609494
uwot

anon said
>unappointed judiciary is overstepping its bounds
so i pointed out that there are appointed

>>129608597
You are a fuckimg child. Fact. Its not a muslim ban because it does not block all muslims. What someones opinion is does not matter.

>>129605102
so?

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>>129609381
>>129609466
It will be like a fatal cumshot on the dems faces

how will they ever recover

>>129610018
>non-americans don't have rights

I did not say they did.

>banning them on a religious basis is perfectly legal

No, it isn't. Establishment Clause.

It is literally why all the lower courts are ruling as they are.

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>>129604615
Malay Mike?
Who let you back in?

>>129610070
Yes he can, it's not establishing a religion, it's keeping a religion out, that's not establishing a religion. If it was a true muslim ban
why isn't Indonesia or Malaysia banned? Why not Saudi Arabia or Pakistan? You know, the largest Muslim nations on the planet?

>>129609500

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/supreme_court_overturns_9th_circuit_provocation_rule_that_expanded_police_l

>>129608768
No doesnt ass
Ass master.

>>129610173
>Its not a muslim ban because it does not block all muslims.
Well it should.

>>129610217
the lower courts have refused to cite the constitution in ANY of their decisions.

>>129610173
>Its not a muslim ban because it does not block all muslims.

One of the dumber arguments I've heard yet.

>>129610270
>San Francisco
i'm not shocked

>>129608863
Its fucking scary cause that is thought police tier.

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>>129607649

I know :^)

>>129610331
a muslim ban would assume all muslims the world over are banned from entering.

>>129607561
((((((((((finns))))))))))))

>>129609956
Yes.
Too bad indeed, that the judiciary no longer heeds the opinions of the individuals who saw to it's establishment, and rules as it pleases rather than according to the law.

>>129610321
You've clearly not read any of them. They all do.

>We begin by addressing the Government's argument that the district court applied the wrong test in evaluating Plaintiffs' constitutional claim. The Government contends that Mandel sets forth the appropriate test because it recognizes the limited scope of judicial review of executive action in the immigration context. Appellants' Br. 42. We agree that Mandel is the starting point for our analysis, but for the reasons that follow, we find that its test contemplates the application of settled Establishment Clause doctrine in this case.

Int'l Refugee Assistance Project v. Trump, No. 17-1351, 2017 U.S. App. LEXIS 9109, at *60 (4th Cir. May 25, 2017)

>>129606325

2 more state legislatures and you fuckers can start amending the constitution unopposed. it will be a white future. i salute you.

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>>129610331
How is that dumb? There was never a 'muslim ban', only media propaganda. You're dumb for believing it.

>>129604615
Ninth circuit again. So only liberals can have laws unchallenged. Awesome precedent.

>>129610331
>hurr muslim ban

Muslim-majority countries included in Trump's ban:
Iraq
Iran
Syria
Libya
Yemen
Somalia

Muslim-majority countries not included in Trump's ban:
Saudi Arabia
Afghanistan
Pakistan
Egypt
Jordan
United Arab Emirates
Kuwait
Niger
Indonesia
Bangladesh
Turkey
Algeria
Sudan
Morocco
Uzbekistan
Maldives
Tunisia
Western Sahara
Tajikistan
Mayotte
Azerbaijan
Comoros
Algeria
Djibouti
Senegal
Kosovo
Gambia
Mali
Turkmenistan
Kyrgyzstan
Oman
Guinea
Qatar
Sierra Leone
Bahrain
Kazakhstan
Brunei
Malaysia
Lebanon
Burkina Faso
Albania
Chad
Bosnia-Herzegovina

>>129610497
>but for the reasons that follow, we find that its test contemplates the application of settled Establishment Clause doctrine in this case.
this says literally nothing if you don't post the rest you fucking idiot

>>129606901
>Why doesn't Trump go through Congress

Because the law in question is literally already on the books. It passed in 2002, presidents Bush and Obama just kept waiving it on a yearly basis. If you look at the text if Trump's executive order, no countries are listed because they are in the text of the law itself

>>129609669
Just because it's a buzzword doesn't mean it's not true buddy.

>>129604828
Tweets are more important than playing politics. This is only the beginning.

>>129609679
>The issue is whether or not the President can ban Muslims. And he cannot.
Show me the law that says the President cannot block entry of hostile foreign entities into America.

>>129610321
>>129610497

>The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." U.S. Const. amend. I. "The clearest command of the Establishment Clause is that one religious denomination cannot be officially preferred over another." Larson v. Valente, 456 U.S. 228, 244, 102 S. Ct. 1673, 72 L. Ed. 2d 33 (1982). The Supreme Court has articulated various tests for determining whether that command has been violated. The first such test is that the law "must have a secular . . . purpose." Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 602, 612, 91 S. Ct. 2105, 29 L. Ed. 2d 745 (1971).

Aziz v. Trump, No. 1:17-cv-116 (LMB/TCB), 2017 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 20889, at *18-19 (E.D. Va. Feb. 13, 2017)

Shall I keep going?

Why don't we just declare unrestricted total war on all of the travel ban nations? They can't travel here if all of their populations are dead.

>>129604615
They should be hung in the streets

>>129610369

It's called the nutty ninth and the ninth circus for a reason

>>129610724
he can't because it doesn't exist
all he can say is
>muh establishment clause
I hope this dumb fuck realizes if this doesn't pass, it pretty much means we can NEVER ban a middle eastern country again because they're flooded with muslims, and any attempt to do so would result in
>why you being so islamaphobic xD

>>129610626
I'm establishing that the lower courts do cite to the Constitution, which is a refutation of the claim some retard put forth.

If you would like to read the rest, you may do so on your own.

>>129610765
right, have they proved that it's a muslim ban though?
I suppose we should just ban shitskins for being shitskins, since that's clearly not protected.

>>129610724
>Show me the law that says the President cannot block entry of hostile foreign entities into America.

He can. And, as I have already said, the EO would have passed with no question if Trump had never said anything at all about Muslims.

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>>129605650
>says Republican as if that means anything

>>129610070
Yes he can!!!!!!!

>>129610765
>The first such test is that the law "must have a secular . . . purpose." Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 602, 612, 91 S. Ct. 2105, 29 L. Ed. 2d 745 (1971).

>defending American citizens from attack by ideologically hostile foreigners
>not a secular cause

>>129606932
Poland has no terrorist attacks. Because they don't let sandnigger shitskins into their country.

They don't belong in Poland and they don't belong in the US. I don't care about their feelings. They can stay in Syria and blow shit up there.

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This is retarded. He spoke about doing this during the election and Americans voted him into office. He has a mandate to do this. Enabling act when?

>>129609679

>Those "Japs" were US Citizens, and national origin is not protected by the Bill of Rights, but religion is

Hence he banned based on national origin. The left has created a strawman to beat because the actual argument (EO9066) is on Trump's side.

You're basically admitting that the law makes it OK for the government to be racist. That fact doesn't help your argument.

>>129610217
It litterally isnt fag.

>>129605102
But it's legal. The president can stop immigration from any country for any reason. He could essentially stop letting leafs in because of their BBC fetish.

>>129610900
you still haven't answered my question, and neither have the courts
how is this the establishment clause? How are the feds establishing a religion? By default, not allowing a religious group in is the complete opposite of establishing a religion. Muslims do not have a right to be here, if they are not American citizens end of story.

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>>129604615
WTF I HATE THE 9TH CIRCUIT NOW

>>129605026
(((republicans)))

Democracy is a joke. Politicians need to be hanged.

>>129606325
Ahahahhahhahhahhahaha

I'm so sorry man

It must be hard to be that delusional

I want it as bad as you but it ain't gonna happen

>>129610932
Yes, each opinion cites to numerous times when Trump said something about it being a ban on Muslims.

It goes on for pages, usually, but here's a taste:

>On Sunday, January 29, 2017, two days after the EO was signed, former Mayor of New York City Rudolph Giuliani ("Giuliani") said in an interview on Fox News, "'I'll tell you the whole history of it[.]' . . . 'So when [Trump] first announced it, he said 'Muslim ban.' He called me up. He said, 'Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally.' . . . 'And what we did was, we focused on, instead of religion, danger—the areas of the world that create danger for us[.]' . . . 'Which is a factual basis, not a religious basis."

>>129611183
This, according to anon, we should just ban the rest of the world for being shitskins, since clearly that's legal but somehow banning muslims isn't.

>>129604615
>People who are not un-ironically fascist.
>Believe the constitution has any consistent value
>Not supporting a strong man authoritarian to solve these problems, and prevent any further Islamic conquest into the west.

ISHYGDDT

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>>129607522
Daily reminder.

>>129610331
Seems pretty simple to me
.. but you're a libfag.

>>129611274
>Show me the right way to do it legally
wow you're fucking retarded and so are the courts

>>129610997
So you're claiming that the Constitution grants Muslims a religious right to murder Americans, and any governmental action that impedes this is a violation of the "Establishment Clause"?

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>>129604861
B..but G..o..orsuch

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Why is OP posting a months old tweet

>>129604615
Where were these judges when Obama was blocking entry from certain countries?

>>129606154
What? A reminder that you are a mentally fucking retarded nigger who doesn't understand how the electoral college works?

>>129604615
Understand why this is a topic for laughter. But it shouldn't be. The presidency should have absolute authority, I don't understand why this is being challenged around every second, and, in fact, defeated.

>>129611330
>>129611351
Very good arguments, lads. I'm convinced.

I'm sure SCOTUS will have no problem seeing your reasoning.

>>129611391

Is this Azzmador?

>>129609133
It doesn't work if the symbol that you use to support someone is literally denounced by the person you're supporting

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>>129611067
Yeah, it's part of their training. They have to try to keep focusing hatred and stoking resentment. Partisan loyalists are the saddest subjects.

>>129611351
Jews only support pilpul when it works in their interests.

>>129605026
Imagine being this fucking retarded.

>>129604828
what a fag i can insult drumpf anymore reeeeee

>>129610765
This poster is so dumb and cucked.

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>>129611434
It's Malay Mike. What do you expect?

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>>129611531
>le only replies to the people he can win an argument against and has a prepared response/quip for but ignores everyone else man

>>129611531
he literally looked for a way to ban high risk countries legally, and with facts instead of MUH MUSLIMS
but somehow you equate this to banning muslims?

>>129610997
Again, this poster.shows his retard power

shareblue go back to twitter

>>129611538
Nope

>>129611768
Point me to the argument (not already addressed) and I'll respond.

It can't be retardation like this one: >>129611366

Democracy means you're supposed to practice shit for your term, without intervention.

So Trump is getting blocked around every single fucking turn.

The next Republican will be hard fucking core, you will receive beatings wishing you could be protesting against something as soft as Trump.

People don't learn.

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>>129604948

>>129608267
>> tfw can't stop people from coming from the middle east but can stop people coming from Cuba

>>129611366
Waiting for an answer.
Do you believe that Muslims have a 1st Amendment right to wage war on America?

I will be here to mine the salt when Gorsuch follows suit with sotomayor and tells drumph to eat shit. #alwayswithher

>>129604615
America BTFO!

>>129611768
he hasn't even won the arguments, he refuses to reply to my claims unless he has a prepared argument

>>129606172
>So 99.85% of Ninth circuit decisions go unchallenged.
so what. in this case only the statistics about the challenged ones count, because this one will be challenged.

>establishment clause
>"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"
>Congress
really makes you think

>>129611803
Well, each court looks at the true reason behind the ban and they reject it as not being "in good faith." And the evidence does show it's in bad faith. There's a mountain of evidence that it is pretense.

You should actually read the opinions, they're fairly interesting.

But seriously, let's just glass the Middle East and other Islamic nations. We won't even need a travel ban then.

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time to spin the wheel of time
>Fidget Spinner
Fidget Spinner

>>129611929
Bruh i don't even know what country you are. Why you worried about the great ole USA. Swear man half of you fuckers are eternally worried about us and you don't even live here lmao.

>>129608496
Youre an idiot and youre gay for even concerning yourself with things that dont affect you

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>>129611391
>supreme court has no power

>>129612114
ah, so you're saying the courts are overstepping their bounds and are now feels>reals because it might hurt the poor shitskin babies?

>>129604946
Shills attack this post because it's true

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>>129606482
>trump
>fighting terrorism
>after sucking off both the Jews and then Saudis

Top fucking kek

>>129612001
USA BTFO!!!

itt: nu/pol/ replying to bait posts on mass

>>129612212
Not overstepping their bounds. It has always been SCOTUS's realm to decide what is or is not constitutional. That is what they are doing here.

>>129606711
It's tier 2, biatch.

>>129611251

GEE

THAT'S

SOME

NICE

REDDIT

SPACING

YOU

GOT

THERE.

UPVOTED,

LIKED,

AND SUSCRIBED!

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>>129611327

Daily reminder.

>>129608878
Dude you realize your gay little victory is going to be short lived. The 6/9 conservative supreme court is going to fuck you. And Ginsburg WILL die within the next 8 years

The 9th circuit needs to hang.

They are one of the primary reasons for the continued cucking of california.

Can we just kill them already?

>>129612493
you want them to win don't you

>>129612317
yes, and they will rule in Trumps favor because he's not establishing any religion, if he really wanted to ban muslims, the entire muslim world would be banned. Not only that, failure to uphold the ban essentially gives muslim majority nations free reign to come here, (any attempt to ban a muslim nation henceforth would always be blocked because lol they're muslims, MUH ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE, that's after all the ONLY reason they would be banned you islamaphobe xD) a right they do not and should never have, as they are not americans. But you know, you don't actually think 5 steps ahead

>>129604615
>cleptomanic idiocracy soap opera
Your mong-in-chief is sub-fish-IQ.
You cannot use Hillary as an excuse for years to come.

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>>129612212
I'm going to put words into their mouth just this once. They don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves, they just want to see Trump fail and "The Party" succeed.

BTW, shill thread.

>>129611531
I am ridiculing you because in your mind there are no good arguments.. this is most likey due to your high levels of narcasism.

>>129607807
>barely anyone
So that makes the votes for those that live in the outskirts/ countryside worth less compared to the cities votes, right?

Going by that ideology, Brexit is invalid.

>>129612059
Clearly this will go to the SC

>>129612463
The Judiciary is not going to ignore the evidence just because they're conservative. The Justices are in for life so that they are not subject to political pressure. They hear the evidence and rule according to what the evidence shows.

>>129612690
SCOTUS ignore a shitton of cases, this they will have to take

>>129607450
To be fair, soubds like you are assuming that the cases that go to the supreme Court are selected randomly, in which case yes that makes the stat unequivocally worse.

If it's selected however with bias, which they are, then it means either the system is good at catching occasional errors, or the system is really bad at doing so and there are a lot of them, or somewhere in between.

So technically there's still room for the new information to go against your case.

>>129604615
It's going to come down to the supreme court. We'll know then if the globalists have bought them off

>>129606908
8 U.S. Code § 1182

Kill yourself
>Seriously

>>129612114
Youre so fake dude. It must suck to be empty inside

>>129612693
oh how naive, it didn't stop the 4 liberal judges from voting against gun rights

>>129611897
What retardation?
How else am I supposed to interpret the statement that the President has the authority to block the entry of hostile foreign actors unless they're Muslims?

Holy fuck how retarded are these courts? Do they seriously want us to become a shithole like the UK?

>>129604615
really like seeing you americans taking your country back!
get them illegals,niggers,muslims,mexicans and ll that other shit out and make sure none of that garbage enters again.
really wish we had someone like Trump here in europe but mama merkel is flooding us with 3rd world crap and there is no end in sight...french faggot globalist cuck macaroni will be the nail on the coffin of western europe

>>129612858
this, i guess them being muslim makes them immune
>t. retarded anon and retarded courts

>>129612693
Lol you fucking retard. Thats exactly what they did when they declared Obamacare was not a tax.

You think 9th circuit can be activists but the SC cant? Do you know the history of the SC?

>>129612114
The EO is in good faith. Lieterally. It is also literally Obamas list. The intent of thw EO and the actual language is beyond constitutional. Youre just a fag.

>>129604615
Trump is an idiot. Why do we allow someone with ZERO political experience to lead the most powerful nation in the world? He is arrogant, just thinks "oh, I'll just start bigly at the top and my brilliance will see me through!" but it is obvious he has no fucking idea what he is doing.

>>129612889
Remind me how many subway bombings and truck attacks we've had by foreigners?

>>129612858
>the President has the authority to block the entry of hostile foreign actors unless they're Muslims

You don't properly understand what is going on. Trump does have the authority to block entry to hostile foreign actors. If he had banned the same exact countries without ever saying that he intended to block Muslims, then this EO would not be questioned.

This has already been explained numerous times, I suggest you re-read the thread.

>>129611327
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
the first sentence of the article
"The United States of America /əˈmɛrJkə/ (USA), commonly known as the United States (U.S.) or America, is a constitutional federal republic composed of 50 states, a federal district, five major self-governing territories, and various possessions."

The key words in that sentence are >constitutional
>federal
>republic

I'd like to point out that none of those words are or are synonymous with "democracy".

>>129613156
muslims by default are not american

The federal courts like much of Congress are pedophiles blackmailed into starting World War 3 and giving you a police state.

Do you think they are going to respond to anything but Trump arresting them?

The only problem is that they are abusing our constitutional ignorance. Trump can ignore the courts and ban the refugees anyway. Is he Andrew Jackson or is he bullshit? Jackson fearlessly spammed every red button until one of them blew up his enemies.

>>129613161
>If he had banned the same exact countries without ever saying that he intended to block Muslims, then this EO would not be questioned.
how fucking naive are you?

>>129608899
What information is he even getting out with the tweets?

>>129612858
The courts job is not to interpret a statement. Its job is to inerpret a fucking EO.

>>129611179
>Enabling act when?

Don't we already got something like that? The Patriot Act