/cg/ - Communism General

>>129599455
Go back

>>129599455
Nice.

Another filter to add to my list.

>>129599455
Kill yourself dirty bolshevik, sage

>>129599537
Where?

>>129599537
FPBP

>>129599629
China, cause that's where you belong scumbsg

>>129599578
I don't support bolsheviks. Bolsheviks supported socialism is one country and state ownership of property. I don't.

>>129599728
China is left wing capitalism at this point.

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>>129599744
Bolsheviks, Trudovik, Trotsky followers, Stalinists, Marxist, Inbred retard, It's all the same pal.

>>129599908
I support a different system than the soviet union. Soon capitalism will collapse worldwide based on its own inherent flaws and an unorganized proletariat revoultion will take place world wide ushering in the proletariat democratic semi-state that withers away into full communism. Socialism is one country can never work.

>>129599455
why don't you kill yourself?

>>129600297
Because soon maybe not in my lifetime but soon the worldwide revoultion will bring about a workers paradise.

>>129600182
Communism is a giant pit of degeneracy and corruption, doesn't matter what name you give it, regardless of what you label yourself, every red should be standing in front of a firing squad

>>129600431
How can their be corruption if there are no centralized leaders? And what exactly is wrong with voluntary "degeneracy" why do you care how they spend their life? It doesn't effect you.

>>129600646
There can't be a civilization with some form of governance, and that governance, or "The party" will form another 1%, another bourgeois, it happened so many times before, the people live in poverty while the party members live in luxury.

Degeneracy affects everyone, maybe not me personally, but the children and people of my nation.

>>129600898
without a form of governance*

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>>129600646
>communism
>collectivizing all resources in society
>no centralized leaders
Why is communism always associated with severe delusions and a completely broken perception of reality?

>>129600983
>>129600898
Resources will most likely be collectivized on a local level maybe direct democratic councils or communes. I can't see into the future but I know the proletariat will be the ruling class in one way or another. Probally through direct democracy.

>>129600898
>Degeneracy affects everyone
How?

>>129601238
You are too stupid to understand the problem with that.
So, farmers would own all the food and be able to demand anything they want from society? Oil company workers would essentially get billionaire structures that millions of people invested in? Meanwhile, you get a fucking cash register and burger making tools.

Mises already wrote about almost anything a commie could ever possibly claim to want. Specially about wanting to steal shit at a local level thinking it would make things fairer without realizing the massive capital intensity difference of different industries.

>>129601238
So you are saying that there will be people who govern and organize communities on a local level and to work together efficiently, those small communities need some way to streamline communication and governance.
:hmmm:

Normalizing Degeneracy corrupts the minds of the vulnerable, Degeneracy should never be tolerated and is never okay.

>>129599455
I'm an atheist that is rational and logical, and I hold an unpopular opinion on communism. Is it possible to support global-nationalism as in want the world to be united, so we can further our species?

I honestly do not see what is wrong with communism, it avoids exploitation, prevents religion from growing (all religion is bad, antiquated, etc), gets rid of the chains of tradition and culture (come on, this always slows us down, culture is moronic as it is a waste of resources for a group of people that want everything to look nice). I personally believe that the whole world should embrace modernism, as it's the most efficient, and this could be our official architectural style for global-nationalism. Pride for our earth and out species. Also, communism is based on acience, not emotion, so therefore it's logical and rational. The only barrier we need to dissolve is religion, as it stops us from progressing towards communism. Religion is just like a virus. Everyone should just follow common sense.

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>>129601238
>Resources will most likely be collectivized on a local level maybe direct democratic councils or communes
What's more likely, is that you cannot have communes monopolizing a valuable resource against 50 million people; so you'll elect a totalitarian dictator to oversee everything. Just like in the previous 500 times marxists became the majority on a nation.

And by "monopolizing" I mean, real unconditional monopoly, not anything we see in the free market. Being able to arbitrarily cut the flow of that resource at will.

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>USSR fell
>Only 3 communist states exist anymore
>Millions are starved to death in China
>North Koreans are sent to gulags for not praising the name of the leader
BUT IT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM!

>>129601541
Degeneracy is an opinion.

>>129601815
That was socialism.

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>>129599455
May I suggest taking these pill?

>>129600983
Science isn't delusional. I'm surprised that you don't hate capitalism because it's leaders are literally emotional idiots that follow religion.

>>129601875
In some instances, maybe, but for other things, it absolutely isn't

Muslim believe that music with instruments is degenerate

I think that's fucking retarded

But I think the majority of this board can agree with me that things like the "Slutwalk" or the "Gay pride parade" are the definition of degenerate.

>>129601535
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>>129601805
Here how I would like it to work but because I'm not the one deciding how the system is set up the proletariat is this is probally now how it would work. The state would be some kind of direct democracy where the proletariat would be the ruling class. Bueracrats are replaced by ellected workers who can also be reaclled at any time by a vote. Workers are paid based on supply and demand calcualted by how much of a product is wanted (perhaps a survey or a vote?) and how much of a product can be made at the current point in time. Things are priced in the same way. The state only serves the purpose of figuring this out not ruling over the people of enforcing laws very much. The proletariat would organize and handle that themselves in some way.

>>129601815
Communism can only occur world wide.

>>129599455
Are we supposed to know who you are, egotistical fuckhead.

>>129602412
No but I think you probally remeber all of those communism general threads a while ago.

>>129602176
Nice double standard. Nothing is degenerate as it is objective. Thank you for proving my point.

>>129601958
No thanks.

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>>129599455
Reminder to sage all shit post
written by 19 year old edgy community college teenies who don't want to work for a living

>>129602588
That isn't an actual argument, also communism = science., capitalism =fairy tale religion

>>129602588
>who don't want to work for a living
But labor is a huge part of what it means to be human without working you have hardly any purpose in life.

>>129602319
>It would work this time because democracy
>next time it we will totally make a totalitarian system with a functional open democracy
1. If democracy works, then there's no communism, because people would end up agree that stealing each other's property is bad
2. Usually democracy can't even do that, because it is so damn crony and slow. Democracy only preserves individual freedom out of how inefficient it is at targeting anything. Democracy can't even figure out that the minimum wage is pure nonsense that even if it worked only serves to misallocate workers, let alone being able to allocate all the billions of resources in a modern society.

>>129602546
>Implying I don't think that every other Culture than my own is in some way inferior.

Of course, the meaning of degenerate can change, I'm not trying to be impartial here, It's about what the culture of my own nation has seen as degenerate for a long long time.

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>>129602720
Poor fags detected
Saged

>>129602759
If they do decide that communism is bad then the material conditions nessary for communism aren'r ready. Capitalism needs to have totally collapsed and been disproven world wide for communism to work at all.

Most important things will be done on a local level so a large state won't be deciding that stuff.

>>129602899
What?

>>129602899
Religious moron detected.

go pray to your fairy tale wizard fairy sky spaghetti santa daddy

>>129599455
Nice try stormweenie, I have reported this thread.

>>129599455
starve yourself faggot

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>>129603309
There in lies your mental retardation
Did your song lyrics teach you that ?
>Anti Communist
>Must be a religious person

No wonder you are fucking poor and crave a state system to take care of your failures in life
you really are a fucking loser

Saged
You really are fucking stupid

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>>129602360
Alas making everybody forsake their racial and cultural identity.

>>129599455
kys nigger xd commie fucker

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>>129601238
>I can't see into the future

I can, pic related

>>129601815
China and NK aren't Communist anymore dumb faggot

>>129599455
I unironically only support Stalinist-style communism. Cucky modern communism, anarcho-communism and syndicalism need to fuck off.

>>129603007
I think you are too mentally impaired to understand that the whole idea of communism itself is pure nonsense with no explanation.

>If they do decide that communism is bad then the material conditions nessary for communism aren'r ready.
>Most important things will be done on a local level
>Capitalism needs to have totally collapsed and been disproven world wide for communism to work at all.
Dogmatic, unsubstantial claims, based on nothing other than a vague belief inside your head. Get rid of your mental illness before it's too late. You are no genius who think you figured out the whole economy better than the previous 7 billion people.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-36KprOdFw
>if you wanna change the world you start from yourself and work outward because you build your competence that way
>I don't know how you can go out and protest the structure of the entire economic system if you can't keep your room organized
>don't be fixing up the economy eighteen year olds. You don't know anything about the economy, it's a massive complex machine beyond anyone's understatement and you mess with it at your peril
>So, can you even clean up your own room? No. Well, you should think about that. Because if you can't even clean up your own room, who the hell are you to give advice to the whole world?