capitalism = cucks

>>129587687

It's not about Socialism vs. Capitalism. That's a false dichotomy.

There was a kind of Capitalism that made everyone richer, not just 10%.

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>>129587687

What are ya gonna do about it apart from start a discussion?

>>129588075
Complain about it on an image board all day

Cry self to sleep

Repeat

>>129587687

This is how capitalism work on post-communistic social-democratic countries. In other countries like USA, this is not a huge problem, because most likely the poor failed by themselves, their own mistakes, not because of the system. There is only one country that made social-democracy work, other kind of socialists/communism government types never worked and most likely never will. Get over it, stop dreaming, it would be nice, but it will never happen.

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>>129587687

The problem with your image is that under Fascism, they remove the boot from their backs, and everything is bright and awesome, lots of red flags with swastikas and happy rosy cheeked blonde women.

Video related.

Also, the boot is Jews, and the people never remove it under capitalism because they are too distracted by the clown and balloons. Meanwhile, the gray tone one could just be replaced with communism, and the boot actually crushes them and they all die.

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>>129588324

Oh, the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea2EXNku0ng

>>129588254

And even that one, is not the complete ideal of what a social-democracy would look like, it's just barely what it should be.

>>129587687
Don't forget that you get enough money to eat with capitalism due to lowering prices rather than getting straight famines.

>>129587687
Move to Venezuela for a month or two, or Cuba, and see how wonderful Socialism is. Though they wouldn't let you go back to Yurop.

Nice b8 though, get ready, the Huey is on its way commie :)

>>129588497
Huey?

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>>129588223

Thats because youre a faggot communist, were actually going to stop white genocide. It just requires an information war first, which is why youre here trying to promote white genocide, by muddying the waters.

Both communists and National Socialists are against capitalism, but when you hear someone crying about capitalism - its probably a commie. National Socialism has capitalistic aspects, like private property. Communism does not. Communism is pretty much Zimbabwe. Take from whites, give to blacks, kill whites, starve to death.. blame whites, agitate for communism elsewhere because youre starving, even though you have communism. Its possibly the only more cancerous ideology than Islam.

sage

>>129588416
Ok this is going to sound real softy but:

We could literally give food to EVERYONE

80% of the food in the USA is being thrown away...

>>129588668
Race has literally nothing to do with this.

Inequality drives change, not ethnicity

>>129588723

Thats how we ended up in this situation in the first place. We fed Africa for generations and they have like 12 kids each, now their population is far beyond sustainable numbers, and if they begin to starve, they just claim victimhood and flood our countries, violently stealing their gibs which they feel entitled to.

You did this. You fed the seagulls, now theres a whole flock. Now its our job to get rid of the Seagulls, and youre going to put up a big fuss because you think its oppressing the birds if we stop them from shitting on our heads.

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>>129588954

>Only struggle is the class struggle!
>muh equality

t. communist SJW

sage

>>129587919
>Socialism
>Guns
you fucking retards, the first thing socialists do is ban all gun ownership. Can't have your slaves rebelling...
Look at Hitler, Stalin and Mao. First thing after getting power was stripping the people of any means of defence, cuck slave

>>129588723

Bullshit

Food is being thrown away, but not 80%. USA imports food as well. With their debt to china, they shouldn't import food if 80% of it is thrown away.

You are retarded and should feel retarded if you believe that. Food is being thrown away, but on a much MUCH lower scale. Discarded food is most likely food that goes bad, and food thrown away is just food rest from people that bought it. Nobody actually buys food with the intention of throwing it away.

Giving away free food is bad for the economy, and can collapse the market, giving free food to the people makes the merchants broke, which then they need food to survive, but who is going to give them free food if they can't produce food because they were not paid money for the food to begin with?

Are you fucking dumb?

>>129588366
>kill 6 million people
>create massive economic bubble in arms industry
>whole economy based on giant government debt


Oh but we have nice flags

>>129589014
>oppress, colonise and enslave whole continents for decades
>oh its the guys that equality

Really

>>129589210

>Giving free food that would have been discarded anyways makes the merchants broke as well because if people get free food that was about to get discarded they do not need to buy food anymore.

>>129588954
It has. Average IQ is very correlated with race. IQ is very strongly correlated with wealth and success in life. I.e. you will have a split between different races when it comes to ewalth and eventually the lower iq races want to strip the smarter ones of their wealth and gettoization also ensues. Look at Brazil, RPA, etc.

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>>129589205

First of all Hitler is not a Socialist, as National Socialism is not marxist socialism and the simple term "Socialist" implies marxist socialist.

Second, Hitler only banned guns for undesirables like kikes. Germans had rights. Only a member of the race can be a citizen, and only citizens can own guns.

Third, violent communists were trying to overthrow the government and had already made a full scale revolt attempt to break 1/3 of the country away. Its also historical fact accepted by all respectable historians that a dutch communist set the fire at the Reichstag, and there is no actual proof he was assisted in any way. Its literally a tinfoil tier conspiracy argument that communists drummed up as damage control. So it was warranted, communists burned down the parliament buildings effectively, thats an unofficial state of civil war.

sage

>>129589210
>Oh the poor walmart multinational is going to lose a bit of money? Oh thats so unfortunate! I hate socialism now!

The markets dont give a shit about you. The brokers dont give a shit about you.
The multinationals dont give a shit about you.
The multinational in the white house doesnt give a shit about you

They want you to work, consume and to die as soon as you cant do any of that.

Trickle down doesnt work.

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>>129589219

>muh 6 million

You must be lost, the holohoax never happened, and the National Socialist government did amazing things. Downplaying it as just flags is a baseless cherrypicking - empty emotion communist tier argument. Thats all your side has, you can trick a few lemming dunces.. but anyone with a brain sees through this rhetoric. Not even you believe it, youre just so dedicated to communism that you dont give a shit. You people just want your free gibs and to be neets, thats modern communism. "At all costs!" you shout, and so you post black cocks and cuck porn on /pol/ to drive the factposters out, because you cant beat their arguments. Just like marx would have done!

The German economy was a thriving success. They swiftly eliminated unemployment, 0%. Bold new measures were taken to help people get loans, and to train unskilled people who lived in Jewish slums how to be craftsmen, by paying them to help build their own homes on the outskirts of town. Homes with land, so they could grow their own gardens etc. It was a glorious economic platform, the 1932 NSDAP plan. They pulled themselves out of the same depression that everyone else in the world was facing, and became the strongest economic power in Europe. Hitlers vast support among the population came largely in part to its economic success.

So here you are, posting just blatant bullshit, and you actually think you can trick white people into selling their race out to join a bunch of actual larping faggots and promote something that Canada already effectively has?

You say you aren't liberal SJWs, and then you cry about muh equality. People aren't equal, deal with it. Not even within a race. Races are unequal, but people are too. Not all whites are geniuses, this is why we had eugenics. Some jobs are suited for some people, and others for other people who have the natural ability to excel in those areas.. and people should be rewarded for their productivity, or else they have no incentive.

>>129589205
The Nazis actually promoted people owning guns privately, except of course for Jews, gypsies, etc.

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>>129590038

I ran out of space and could have kept going, but fuck it, commie btfo.

sage

Where does this retarded concept of "wealth control" come from? There is no set amount of wealth in the world, it's a concept that's under constant fluctuation of renewal and decay. Just because some has a billion dollars doesn't mean there's a billion less out there for you to get a piece of. And capitalism is the only system that relies on voluntary exchange and I'll take that over any economic system that wants to define what I have a right to any day

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>>129587687

>>129589957

I know more than this to you communist prick.

I live in a post-communistic failed social-democracy.

Capitalism is way better, definitely way better than what this place has attempted. Not to mention corrupt government does not help at all here.

Socialism will never work because it requires the death of millions of people to be put into place then people riot against it, take it down, and it fails.

Stop dreaming, get real.

>>129587687

Capitalism favors the strong and intelligen. I can see why you hate it so much, and I can see why you're worried about more competition in the future. But don't worry, in the future there will be robots and machines to not only take your worthless job, but also your life when you start feeling like you can take my earnings and my life work all because of your pathetic laziness, stupidity, and third world nigger mentality

>>129590306
>And capitalism is the only system that relies on voluntary exchange and I'll take that over any economic system that wants to define what I have a right to any day

You should read into what National Socialism actually is, because they had private property, and their currency was backed by actual labor. We dont even have free markets in the west, we have a mixed economy. On the scale of how mixed economies go, ours is like a 4, and theirs was like a 7. Its just further up the scale, it was not a "planned economy". Thats communism.

>>129590476

This.

>>129590561
>>129590306

Also, National Socialism isnt about making you rich, although if you're white and not a fucking lazy piece of shit, or an actual retard.. you would probably end up doing pretty well for yourself at least.

Its about stopping white genocide and communists. Its about getting rid of all the other problems we have, like how 100 white women are raped every day in the US, and how we will be 1% of the population in 100-300 years. Canada is set to be 20% white in 2060, when it was almost pure white in the 70s. Thats a genocide, and National Socialism is the brand of ethnic nationalism is the answer to our problems, most ethnic nationalists agree.

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>>129589380

Colonization is not slavery. Black Rhodesians were free, for example, and had a high standard of living. Your entire concept of history is blurred by people who intentionally make shit up.. and you know they make shit up, but you still spread their garbage as if its fact.

Whites gave blacks everything, and stopped them from being genocided. Theres a tribe in South Africa who were in the process of being totally exterminated by other blacks. Who saved them? Whites. Who are being slaughtered by them now? Whites.

Youre the scum, we both know it, and soon everyone will. Soon, you will be afraid to go out in public, you will have to change your whole appearance. We can smell a communist around the corner.

>>129587687

Average person in America makes well over the minimum wage; ~50,000/year

Several employers will help a worker pay for College, like FedEx.

If you make over 33,000/year, you're in the top 1% of the world's wealth.

Get a job nig

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>>129591021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M70K5i87n6E

>>129590476
Your vision of robotic capitalism is more cut throat than any brand of socialism. It will kill billions of people.

>>129589219
>muh 6 gorillion!

>>129590038
>>129590038
>Holocaust never happened
Yeah sorry i'm not even going to argue about that. It happened dude, get over it.

>German economy was a thriving succes
The whole economy was based around massive territorial expansion. Even if they wouldve been able to win the war, their economy would completely inflate without an reason for more weapon production.
The nazi government inherited about 2 billion marks from the previous government. So plenty to invest.
Its not really hard to have a good income for your middle class when millions of people are enslaved working themselves to death.

Also, you can't justify inequality. If people should be rewarded for their productivity, you cant enslave millions based as something made up.

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>>129587687

>>129591179

That's pretty close to meritocracy. And it gives people what they deserve, as it it based on merit.

if you live in the west you're among the richest 10% of the world

all because of capitalism


wow capitalism sure is bad

>>129591058
>household income
>average salary

different things.

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>>129587687

I'm 28. I've been the boot for a couple of years now.

Feels good.

>>129589458
>National Socialism is not marxist socialism

hahahahahahha

yeah it fucking is, idiot

>>129587687
Q: When in human history has the common man been this well to do?
A: NEVER

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>>129587687

>i don't mind being a slave when the leader magically shares my opinions
>i don't mind being a slave when the country is magically turned homogenous
>i don't mind being a slave when everyone magically agrees on everything

gee, facism is such a shit ideology

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>>129591237

>Yeah sorry i'm not even going to argue about that. It happened dude, get over it.

Thats because you cant and that 1 image alone irrefutable destroys the 6 million claim. You dont know where you are, weve gone over all your garbage talking points for almost a decade now, and we recognize a stupid shill when we see one. Youve presented no arguments and a whole lot of bullshit. Youve been utterly destroyed repeatedly from different angles on several topics of discussion. Youre a complete joke.

>>129591355
True socialism is like new age communism in the robotic age. The future is robots theres no turning back from this.

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>>129591361
>Yeah Africa and Asia are really highly taxed and regulated and have huge welfare states!

I think you'll find the correlation is WHITE countries, retard shill.

>>129591479
Common man being the american?

You are not the majority of the people, you know

>>129587687
Get off your lazy ass, you piece of shit.

>>129591421
Read a book dumb cunt

Elites will always exist, be they fortune 500, politburos, SS, warlords etc etc

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>>129591260

Again, put a star of david on the left guys leg, a bunch of beautiful bright flags, and draw the boot as if its in an upward motion, with lines showing its being thrown off their back.

Thats Fascism.

>>129587687
>implying fascism is bad

>>129589205

>Hitler banned guns

Except that gun laws in NS-Germany were much more liberal than in your country or even in some US states right now.

Dumb Polack

>hurr durr jews and gyppos couldnt own guns

Yeah, niggers couldnt own guns for the most part of US history, so what?

>>129591479
1950s

>>129587687

<*"But the immegrants are the problem, the blacks, the mexicans, the syrian refugees are the problem!"*

Oh I get it now. Being ethnically replaced wouldnt be totally awesome if it wasnt for capitalism.

>>129591601
>You are not the majority of the people, you know

In the only country that matters we are

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>>129589205
>he believes that hitler took the guns

>>129591580
>the free market is ripe for Jewish influences! that's why I propose a state that can be infiltrated and manipulated by the Jews, but that way they'll also have authority to manipulate and control the population instead of merely being kikes!

GREAT thinking my friend

LOVING it

>>129591657
>Liberation through oppression

>>129591237

>their economy would completely inflate

That is generally a good thing and it means they can progress with technology and stuff... Ignorant commie...

>Also, you can't justify inequality.

Yes you fucking can. an <50 IQ low-key autist will never and i mean NEVER be the same as a >150 IQ elite intellectual. They are NOT equal. Inequality is normal. Not all men are equal, and they should not be.

>You should be rewarded for your productivity.

That's really vague. If a dumb muscleman works his back off, he should never earn as much as someone who is highly intelligent and worked hard to get where he can. They both have high productivity, but one is capped to a limit. High intelligence is widely useful and in high areas, and also hard to obtain. Anyone can get a good physique and lift weights for a living.

>>129591746
Wow, what a broad view you have on the world. Have fun on your island, fat retards

>>129591724
Which was a freak abnormality in time. USA basically bankrupt and plundered the world at that point. It has nothing to do in relation to any economic model just war.

>>129588723

It's not 80%, it's 40%

It's also measured in dollars, not nutrition and calories. Most of that waste is fresh produce and shit with a short shelf life. Quality of life items, not bulk staples.

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>>129591812

this

facists, communists and other authoritarians never learn.
Freedom means people doing things you might dislike big suprise.
While your whole ideology is to hope that the guy in power doesn't turn against your own form of degenerecy? Good luck, they always find something to ban, and books to burn, what makes you think your opinion won't be outlawed? You don't care about slavery aslong as the dude doing the lynching is white?

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>>129591811
>Natsoc
>Somehow would be hijacked by jews

Really made me think. Yeah, you're right we should be slaves to advertising, banks, lawyers and insurance companies instead of a benevolent government because at least it would be voluntary.

>>129587687

I like how op totally ignored my arguments and tried to go around them to prove how yet again he is wrong.

I'm going off this thread, op is cancer, not worth a debate, it's just wasted time, he's too dumb to hold a true debate.

>>129592173
>strawman, the meme
The only people who argue against ancap are those who do not understand it.

>>129587687
>eight people control as much wealth as the poorest 50%
So? What's your retarded basis for assuming all people deserve equal wealth?

>>129592129

This. BASED Oath Keepers funded by kikes choking white nationalists is the TRUE FREEDOM

Fuck Europeans haha xd

>>129589957

The markets give a shit about my dollar. The markets will do any retarded shit thst I want if I am willing to pay for it. The market has done a lot for me. It has done a lot for you.

A small handful of excellent people do it for free. Even in a world of capitalism, there is still opportunity to socialize things for free. We don't need it to be enforced by rule of law.

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>>129592129
further proof libertarians are liberals in disguise as right wingers

>heh just chillax guys people can be what they wanna be, humans all unique we individuals we different! Solipsism ftw

>>129591746
>>129591879
I fear we will be the least effected in the future. We already live a dog eat dog way so people here are already accustomed to it. The rest of the world is in trouble big time as they use socialist structures or have massive overpopulations.

>>129592542
Classically speaking any group for democratic or republican ideals is liberal.

>>129587845
While I agree that there is no viable alternative to capitalism I would want to know when that has been?
After Europe was bombed out?
In the actual setup (and this goes on for quite some decades) there is money moved up the food chain in disgusting amounts.

>>129591841
All what you said there doesn't justify inequality. Just because someone has lower IQ, doesn't mean he's less worth. You can't draw a line there. On the basis of what would you determine the money someone gets? A house cant be built without an architect and a skilled worker. You need both to get that house. The architect just gets payed more because he got lucky, born in a rich family that can afford uni and with a higher IQ. Just because he got lucky, that means he's worth more?

This automatically creates an environment where the rich get richer. Because rich=worth more=more money. So the incomes get blown way out of proportion.

>>129592767
>While I agree that there is no viable alternative to capitalism I would want to know when that has been?

1870-1914
1933-1960

>>129592173
Absolutely no morality

>Hurr durr people would buy only products from moral companies

Yeah because they do that now

>>129591879
We are, waffle nigger.

>>129592812
This.
All wealth accumulated by higher paid jobs are basically made on the shoulders of low-paid hard-working poorfucks.

Are you seriously implying that you would work less hard or have more wealth under socialism? Because you are fucking wrong.

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>>129587687
>literally split a country in half
>same race, tradition, culture, and religion on both sides
>communist side started with significantly more wealth, and industrial sector, and a shitload of natural resources
>capitalism side almost entirely agriculture, somali levels of poverty, almost no infrastructure, 90% if their budget was federal aid, literally would starve without foreign assistance
There's literally nothing more we can do to prove capitalism works and communism doesn't. >>>/wsg/1722473
Millenials are a lost cause.

>>129592542

No shit, the word "libertarian" only exists because centre leftists coopted the word liberal.

Classical liberalism = libertarianism (for the most part)

>>129592542

dont assume too much kiddo. I never said everyone can be whatever they want. Its clear from the amount of authoritarians on here and in the world that not everyone wants freedom. Which is fine, unlike the libertarians i don't give a fuck if you sell yourself. Just keep me out of it.
But its never enough, authoritarians can never be happy within their shitty country. Afterall facism failed because the stupid ideology wasn't enough. They always want more.

>>129592529
Things market did for me:

>crash the market in 08
>gambling on peoples lives

The fact that im born lucky doesnt mean i cant hate the system for its injustice towards others.

>>129592902
You don't actually believe that yourself, do you?
Seriously..
These periods of time aren't even comparable to our times and both ended in world war, so the years before had been basically war economy driving it.
And debt.
Regarding 50s and 60s:
The US profited from bombed out Europe demanding 'made in america' and Europe was profiting by starting from ZERO.

>>129592812

>Just because someone has lower IQ, doesn't mean he's less worth.

But it literally does, it means he can't perform more specialized and valuble labor

people who usually bitch about capitalism are those who cant compete

>>129587687
>this pic
Misleading propaganda
https://www.youtube.com/verify_controversy?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3Dvl7cv8NBbmY%26bpctr%3D1496960722

>>129592953
For now, soon machines will make it to where the rich don't need the poor. My question is if machines replace people how will people buy the shit the machines make?

>>129591128
The cuck interviewer was literally suggesting nature was racist for making blacks less intelligent

>>129593271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl7cv8NBbmY&bpctr=1497283049
FFS. Of course youtube is being retarded about this purely informal video

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>>129587687
>practically slavery
Nobody forces you to stay. Piss off to Cuba or Rojava.

>>129593222

>asks question
>isnt pleased with answers
>spergs out

ok, everything is fine, just continue.

>>129593273
After the poor die out capitalism will fade away as well. What would you call this world and what would it look like?

>>129593261
While basically spending the same amount of lifetime minus educational times.

>>129587687
Then fuck off Commie ,nobody is stopping you

>>129587687
the problem is the jew dollar, fiat currency.

We need to break free from that, either through crypto currency, precious metals or both. Only then will things truly balance itself

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The Ukrainian musician Yosyp Panasenko was dispatched by central authorities with his troupe of bandura players to provide culture to the starving peasants. Even as the state took the peasants' last bit of food, it had the grotesque inclination to elevate the minds and rouse the spirits of the dying. The musicians found village after village completely abandoned. Then they finally came across some people: two girls dead in a bed, two legs of a man protruding from a stove, and an old lady raving and running her fingernails through the dirt. The party official Viktor Kravchenko entered a village to help with the harvest one evening. The next day he found seventeen corpses in the marketplace. Such scenes could be found in villages throughout Soviet Ukraine, where in that spring of 1933 people died at a rate of more than ten thousand a day.

The duties of parents could not be fulfilled. Marriages suffered as wives, sometimes with their husbands' anguished consent, prostituted themselves with local party leaders for flour. Parents, even when alive and together and acting in the best of faith, could hardly care for children. One day a father in the Vynnitsia region went to bury one of his two children, and returned to find the other dead. Some parents loved their children by protecting them, locking them in cottages to keep them safe from the roving bands of cannibals.

>>129587687
>Live in capitalist society
The United States is not free market capitalism. Get your shit straight.
>Have to work whole day every day
Thanks depressed wages due to women and unchecked immigration flooding the workforce.
>minimum wage
Your work is not that valuable.
>practically slavery
In a not-stagnant economy, just leaving is a nice option. But our economy is shit.
>invest thousands of dollars in debt to get college degree
Another creation of government. Taxpayers funding tuitions has inflated the price of school enormously since subsidies and FDIC loan insurance started.
>still can't find a job
Again, too much workforce supply, not enough demand.
>coming years automation will make most human labor unnecessary
True. Maybe you should be making decisions based on this.
>have to compete with machines 10 times as fast and a tenth the price as human labor
Haha, get fucked. Again, you should be avoiding this.
>no job = no pay
Please, leave for a communist country where you're guaranteed a job and tell me how much you enjoy that.

Saging shills.

>>129593273
Basic income. Even economy slowly understands that there is no way around it if they want to remain at the tip of the pyramid.

>>129593442

>poor will die out

how? If automation goes on there must be basic income or society will collapse into civil war.

That will be basically techno communism based on finite ressoruces which will lead to population control and expanding into the space and deep sea with asteroid mining and shit.

OR we have a race war before that which I would prefer.

>>129592173

Tbf, AnCap societies do have legal systems.

>>129593604
Crypto currency is another fiat currency though

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>>129587687
>8 people who make the massive enterprises that allow you to have a smartphone, a computer, and access to highspeed internet which you are using right now don't deserve the wealth they made through voluntary means because 4 billion niggers and vagrants who have a networth of literally 0, when added up, don't have as much as the networth of massive productive companies
Haha, I too love communism, fellow 16yo. Wouldn't it be better if we had a government that doesn't allow us to control the money we make and that monopolizes all our resources? That would allow niggers to get even more free money for doing nothing while punish the evil productive white families, which would be great because it increases equality.

>>129587687
The final redpill is to realize that any government only works with the right leader. Even communism could work if someone who played civ5 ruled the world.

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>>129587687
BTFO!

>>129593604
Fiat allows for bigger economies to grow more rapidly

>>129587687
>But the immegrants are the problem, the blacks, the mexicans, the syrian refugees are the problem!
8 rich farts can't change the demography and gene pool of a people you fucking commie walloon trash

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>>129587687
>But the immegrants are the problem, the blacks, the mexicans, the syrian refugees are the problem!
Funny how they all move to capitalist (fascist, according to you) societies to start a better life.

>>129593423
>gets provided with the idea that he may be wrong
>reacts autistic as expected
Anything to add to the discussion?
You seem to know shit about economy, keep sucking my rich dick.

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>>129593639
In the face of starvation, some families divided, parents turning against children, and children against one another. As the state police, the OGPU, found itself obliged to record, in Soviet Ukraine "families kill their weakest members, usually children, and use the meat for eating." Countless parents killed and ate their children and then died of starvation later anyway. One mother cooked her son for herself and her daughter. One six-year-old girl, saved by other relatives, last saw her father when he was sharpening a knife to slaughter her. Other combinations were, of course, possible. One family killed their daughter-in-law, fed her head to the pigs, and roasted the rest of her body.

Survival was a moral as well as a physical struggle. A woman doctor wrote to a friend in June 1933 that she had not yet become a cannibal, but was "not sure that I shall not be one by the time my letter reaches you." The good people died first. Those who refused to steal or to prostitute themselves died. Those who gave food to others died. Those who refused to eat corpses died. Those who refused to kill their fellow man died. Parents who resisted cannibalism died before their children did. Ukraine in 1933 was full of orphans, and sometimes people took them in. Yet without food there was little that even the kindest of strangers could do for such children. The boys and girls lay about on sheets and blankets, eating their own excrement, waiting for death.

In one village in the Kharkiv region, several women did their best to look after children. As one of them recalled, they formed "something like an orphanage." Their wards were in a pitiful condition: "The children had bulging stomachs; they were covered in wounds, in scabs; their bodies were bursting. We took them outside, we put them on sheets, and they moaned. One day the children suddenly fell silent, we turned around to see what was happening, and they were eating the smallest child, little Petrus. They were tearing strips from him and eating them. And Petrus was doing the same, he was tearing strips from himself and eating them, he ate as much as he could. The other children put their lips to his wounds and drank his blood. We took the child away from the hungry mouths and we cried."

>>129587687
>>BWAAAAAAH ITS NOT FAAAAIR! DADDY GOVERNMENT I WANT WELLFARE BWAAAAAH!
No.

>>129593696
Nobody is going to pay people for simply existing. Theres always a catch. Lord zuckerburg will give you some shekels though to play in his virtual slave kingdom.
>>129593711
War it is then. We will make our destiny rather than submit to these barons.

>>129593912
fix the letter thats showing near the S and it's perfect. I'll share this meme

>>129587687
>But the immegrants are the problem, the blacks, the mexicans, the syrian refugees are the problem!


Here's the deal, Igor. You work. You carve out a life and make your own happiness. You can't dwell on the fact that you weren't a lucky sperm who doesn't have to work a day in your life. You try to leave each place a little better than you found it.

That's pretty much it.

Stop being a fucking crybaby.

Also. All of these things I've said are the opposite of what niggers want to do, so fuck niggers. If you are a nigger and you are reading this. Fuck You.

I've been saying it for ages. There is no "right" and "left". There is only "up" and "down". Having power or not.

>>129587687
You do realize that this is because of socialism and politicians protecting the wealth of those people while telling people the opposite right?

They are rich because you give them your money.

They would not be rich without socialist politicians protecting their investments.

>>129593978

Kek I am financially well off as well and I would and will sacrifice everything I have including my life for an ideal of a better world.

You are proof that Communism and Capitalism are just two sides of the same shekel.

>>129593198
>born lucky
>lives in belgistan

>>129594464
You don't get it do you?

>>129594590

Tell me what I dont get Captain Insight

>>129587687
>>no job = no pay
yup that's how it works you fucking worthless leech

>>129594548
Bullshit.

Trust fund babies always go hard left. When everything is free, they think either parents or government should make everything free for everyone.

Spoiled kids don't understand work.

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Always interesting how the individuals who live with mommy and daddy, had their college paid for by daddy, or haven't graduated high school, with the final 1% of these people being "fuck you gots minutes republicans" , always tend to be die hard capitalists

The Jews convinced you we'll. Good goys

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>>129594464
>"Kek I am financially well off as well "
>"and I would and will sacrifice everything I have including my life for a communist ideology"
>calling other people cucks
Plus, no, I you are not "financially well off" because you have no finances at all. As doxxing on /leftypol/ has already shown, you are likely bellow 18. Stop pretending to be a financially independent adult.

>>129593604
>Jews are greedy because jews
The problem isn't who the powerful are, the problem is that the powerful are this powerful.

This is what irritates me about having these kind of conversations, dont get me wrong, i enjoy them.

I'm not preaching complete equality, inequality drives people to achieve something. Money is a good motivator

>>129594654
How to have a discussion.
My arguments for the very slow of us:
1. not comparable to newer times / internet etc.
2. war economies
3. Europe profiting from growth by having to build every toilet again / US profiting from Europe having to build every toilet again

Short summary:
Your idea that there were times when capitalism worked out as supposed to just by itself is under false pretense.

Conclusion: You have no clue.

>>129594764
You dont have to be trust fund rich.

People on this board who live with mom and dad who both make 40 grand a year feel as if they some how achieved something as a capitalist and are better than "poor people". This is a huge cognitive dissonance for Americans. Fuck the poor, I'm a capitalist! (in reality they are poor as shit compared to those who these idiots defend)

>>129594938

kek, I love how subhumans like you chase money because they never experienced what living in a homogeneous high IQ European country actually means.
You never had anything to lose.

In fact I think capitalism is better for Brazil.

>>129594834

Skeleton hands!

>>129593696
Basic income won't work. When 90% of the economy see the sudden appearance of cash on everyone's doorsteps, prices will rise commensurate to the drop in the value of the cash. Your UBI check will be worth nothing the day it arrives.

The only way to ensure UBI can buy anything is to control prices. At that point, you have a centrally planned coupon system, which is a crutch of communism and a recipe for utter and complete poverty.

>>129587687
>But the immegrants are the problem, the blacks, the mexicans, the syrian refugees are the problem!
who do you think made that a problem in the first place.

>>129595164

>asks question that demands chronological answers "When was..."
>WHY DO YOU GIVE EXAMPLES OF HISTORY THOSE TIMES OR NOT LIKE OUR CURRENT TIMES REEE

You realize that globalism just means a giant trade-war, right? It is still war.

>>129595284
Maybe socialism is the final redpill?
What if the state invested in renewable energy and after the inital investments and running costs are redeemed provided the population with electricity and / or an electricity currency they can exchange for the actual currency?
Basically basic income without much side effects.

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Yes goy, tell me more how much the pathetic commu- err, I mean socialism works, how wonderful it is, a real life utopia.

>>129587687
But the Immigrants ARE the problem, theyre driving down the cost of labour with infinite supply ensuring one job will never be sufficient. Then you have the strain on goods and services caused by increased demand driving up prices and the general cost of living.

>>129594241

You paid up yet, quarter-kebab?

Many of the capitalist shills on this board are underage children neets at home with mommy or college aged kids (dads paying) who worked part time jobs at best. Due to lack of real world experience they don't realize they're jo special and probably won't go on to do anything mean full in capitalism, but because of the snowflake you can do anything generation, this is the result.

Both groups still feel as if "heh I'm a genius Ill have a 100k starting computer programming job, Im gonna make it big that's why I'm a capitalist :^) !"

>>129595565
The state "investing" in renewable energy is a misallocation of resources. The industry is not profitable on its own, because consumers don't value it as highly as other uses for the same resources. If they're going to redeem their generated energy for currency, your proposition has negative value. The production of renewable energy sources costs far more than they generate over years of lifetime. The currency they "generate" will be a pittance, and because taxpayers will have funded their development, everybody in that economy comes out losing.

You're proposing an infinite energy system and it's not going to fucking work.

>>129595891
>and probably won't go on to do anything mean full in capitalism,
I dont want to do anything meaningful
I just want to provide for me and my family

>>129595891
>implying Capitalism isn't the only thing that drives the economy but rather the goodness of people's hearts will ensure jobs continue to be created

This isn't the 60's gramps get the fuck out of here if you have nothing useful to say.

>that desperate for (you)'s
Might wanna finish school first kid.

Someone make an edit for Socialism where the boot has already crushed them, possibly with the USSR body count written beneath it.

>>129595984
>fossil
>fuels
>infinite energy system
>sun
Yes.
There is variable models how to work this out, maybe countries doing this could sell a limited amount of energy to firms and for cheaper if there is a recession.
This would also attract business.

>>129587687

Get a job and then you find out why so many people prefer capitalism.

>>129595891
An entire post of ad hominem is not a substitute for a real argument.

Sage communist shills.

>>129596029
You can do that easily on a lower income without unrestricted jewish capitalism. You're really just a materialist jew capitalist and want more stuff just to want more though. It's not just about subsistence and self sufficiency for people like you.

>>129596078
>goodness of people's hearts will ensure jobs continue to be created

Do you actually believe this lmao?

>>129596233
Great rebuttal

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>>129596078
>but rather the goodness of people's hearts will ensure jobs continue to be created
You're so stupid and cringey it's unreal. Just accept that socialism doesn't work and stop embarrassing yourself online.

http://myweb.fsu.edu/jsc07e/Documents/Papers/Connors%20-%20Economic%20Institutions%20and%20Global%20Poverty.pdf

>>129596234
>materialist
How does me not caring about economic issues make me materialistic?
Communism is materialistic
> want more stuff just to want more though.
No I just want to be left alone

>>129596358
Get a real job before talking.

>>129590561
>their currency was backed by actual labor

How do you compare diff kinds of labor? How much money is worth 1 hour of digging, 1 hour of programming project A, programming project B?

>>129595228
>chasing money, haha, how primitive and short sighted!
Do you mind taking a harder job for a lower wage? Seems like literally all your actions are based on how much value you can create for yourself.

>I love how subhumans like you
Nice try Muhhamed, but even in the worst slums in Brazil, as genetic studies have already shown, the population tends to have 70% European ancestry, even though they have a brown skin. Your German slums have less European ancestry than Brazilian favelas. Seems like sperging out and starting a world war and turning libertarianism and individualism into a taboo for the next 200 years wasn't such a good plan to preserve your culture and homogeneity.

>>129596444
>American comprehension
Are you fucking stupid?

>>129596213
What the fuckity fuck are you on about? Jesus christ, your EU masters sure have poisoned the well, I'm not sure you yuropoors know anything about economics.

I laid it out. Renewable energy is a net NEGATIVE. The resources required to (inefficiently) produce (subsidized) renewable generation cost the average citizen (who is putting taxes into their production) far more than they generate. Even assuming renewables generate "infinite" energy, they will never keep up with their own production or rates of taxation. It is a SINK, not a source.

>>129596358
Can't rebut retardation.

>>129596540
Live in a non socialist country without a spoon in your ass before commenting on capitalism and how great it is.

>>129595314
The whole system is a problem just waiting to pop. Whoever is in charge of this planet is simply shoring up the old system by injecting new blood which will make the inevitable crash even harder. THEY ARE AFRAID The elites dont care about you but they do care about keeping the ponzi scheme going.
>>129595891
Stop projecting your insecurities. Yes capitalism is far from perfect but its what was dealt. If you have a better idea im all ears.

>>129589458
>>129590104
>>129591716
>>129591756
>guns for me not for thee

shills get out.

>>129596474
You need an economic system which allows people unlimited amounts of money to take care of your family? Yet you're not a materialist?

>>129596714
>non socialist country
>We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity

That's a bit rich from a country that declared itself a socialist republic.

>>129596789
No I just dont care how much money other people have because I am not a materialist
Are commies now trying to seriously argue marxism is anti materialistic?

>>129596752

France Yes! Give the jews and their pawns guns, more Bataclans now!

>>129596724
I grew up and lived in the real world without having shit handed to me.

You realize how much the "evil socialist system" really helps people all around. But when you're born into neetdom and relative financial security like the many capitalists on this board, to yourself, you think your parents are capitalists God's because that's how you get your allowance, capitalism rules, only losers aren't making 100k right out of college LOL! Mom and dad did everything themselves and so will (once they pay for at), so get a job communist bum!

if fascism is so great why have they always lost

>>129596752
>caring about your enemy's rights
maximum cuck

>>129596927
Your country is socialist.

Try living in Venezuela. Or Cuba. Or North Korea. Hey, try living in China with Chinese wages.

>>129597204
>I grew up and lived in the real world without having shit handed to me.
How is your parents not having enough money to take care of their families my problem?

>>129597004
Love the, if youre against Jewish capitalism that means you're a commie meme

The Jews really tricked you neo cons well on this one.

>>129597204
>didnt have shit handed to you
Me neither and I can tell you Socialism won't hand you anything or help you either.

It will try but fail miserably, you want things get them yourself.

>>129597246
Its a case of the pot calling the kettle black. If your parents are terribad at Capitalism don't assume Socialism is the solution.

>>129596789
>>129597004

materialism as defined by karl marx is the process of giving all the material to the working class. karl marx is by definition a materialist.... just to stop the false use of that word.

>>129597431
capitalism is a term created by Karl Marx
What I am against is inflation and the social safety net

>>129597396
It's not.

But I won't take little kid\neet dwelling never employed genius parentental-leeching (just as bad as tax payer leaches) "capitalists" seriously.

>>129596752
>Giving guns to mudslimes and kikes
You deserve terrorist attacks

>>129597204
Socialism is not evil it just doesnt work. You want universal healthcare then you will enjoy 50 trillion dollars in debt and a population of useless eaters. Plus we already have socialist programs that give helping hands to minorities. Stop complaining about life itself and understand its natural to live in a survival of the fittest planet. THATS LIFE

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>>129587687
Natsoc adheres to a Orthodox interest in preserving the family as the core structural unit...any version of natsoc will ultimately be guided by what is best for the family inside the nation.

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>>129587687

>>129597788
>instead listen to the naive hippie who still thinks human goodness will solve everything with rainbows and sunshine

Please.

>>129597788
>genius parentental-leeching (just as bad as tax payer leaches)
How are people not leeching off me as bad as people leeching of me?

>>129596675
Military defense budget is basically a negative as well, are you a libertarian by any means?
Because then discussion is over for me.

You are indoctrinated by corporates.
It is an investment, same as basic healthcare is something a society has to pay for as a whole.
We are talking about investing on a scale no corporate can even think about.
Claiming that renewable energies will be as efficient now as they are in 100 years is basically like saying 'let's not develop the PC further because it can't do math fast enough'.

>>129587687

There are so many things in your post that are blatantly wrong.

only 5% of people make minimum wage

college doesn't cost thousands of dollars

Finding a job is genuinely not hard if you don't study basket weaving

Robots aren't going to replace humans in the next 10 years

Building a robot costs tens of thousands of dollars and might not even be worth it because there's so many edge cases where humans outperform robots.

Socialism doesn't do jack shit about robots either, unless the plan is to be so poor as to never buy them.

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>>129587687
>But the immegrants are the problem, the blacks, the mexicans, the syrian refugees are the problem!

I'm glad you are not doing well. You don't deserve to have a home or food since you want to gib it to the endless browns. I hope you end up on the streets and die of thirst.

>>129593982
So liberal so progressive. If only we could force everyone to enjoy this utopia of communism.

>>129597225
Overwhelmed in numbers by opposition

>>129587687
Your view of capitalism is incorrect. None of those people have to hold up that shoe if they don't want to. You can strive to become the shoe if you have the nuts to do so. Is fascist countries you can never become the shoe.

>>129598146
>investing on a scale no corporate can think about
No no corporate would invest in something that does not make a return, altruism is not their business (no matter how much the jews try to tell you that).

For those things naturally you need the government to step in as a market participant.

But the issue isn't preventing (((big government))) from acting, the issue is when naive idiots think (((big government))) can solve everything. That's when you get the Communist nutjobs who want to ruin your life for not supporting their fanciful pipedream.

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An epiphany occurred to me a few months ago and I have been exploring the thought ever since then, and I have come to the conclusion that the potential truth of our current situation is more fucked than most people realize.

>this conflict between the left and right is, of course, a means to destabilize the United States, but what if the misunderstanding is to incite civil war? We have forced narratives of acceptance and tolerance to the indifferent, degenerate and extremists but yet these very same outlets publish material unironically condemning it further in the people already opposed aka stoking the fire, and the result of that ignited hatred is calling for the death of the aforementioned scum and promoting the idea of a singular empirical entity? The exact same thing ((they)) are striving for.

The jews are a pretense, and possibly an ideology that can take the fall should the world truly wake the fuck up while the true enemies are the satanic elite, but I can't help but think now that we are being baited no matter what side we choose,

>Shareblue and the like "go to sleep" shitposting to rile up the opposition to baiting them into an authoritarian mindset, while not objectively a terrible thing unless you consider who is pulling the strings.
>Alex Jones aka Bill Hicks being an agent designed to share selected (controlled) information with the public in an effort to both further agitate the right with "truth bombs" and belittle and embarrass himself with his extreme rants, a single entity creating a divide within the right.

And of course, you have the left and all of their 'propagation.' T me it feels like we are being set on a path of self destruction and that is exactly what they want, you think they haven't planned failsafe measures for shit like the Seth Rich leaks? Implying that wasn't even controlled?

Fuck me..
I need insight on this, please.

>>129598150
robots=automation
They are here and here to stay.

>>129598750
>altruism is none of their business
As I said you are brainwashed by corporate thinking, no pun intended.
How much altruism is building roads for your citizens?
Of course something like this has to be heavily regulated, but as an american I know you are not so much into that kind of thing.
You are a ranting libertarian, sorry.

>>129598871
without welfare and minimum wage there would be jobs for anyone that wants one

>>129587687
tldr
>give me money

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>>129598837
Or perhaps, It is far more likely that everything we see is large as it seems, a result of competing interests than the result of a grand conspiracy. But the major conflict with this is the inspiration of hope, as opposed to the lack thereof it would seem that is this a good thing, of course, if you turn a blind eye to the thought of a man chasing a light at the end of tunnel he will never see the end of, making us no more than cattle moving with a purpose.

The only solution I can reach is the complete destruction of everything.

I just want a society i enjoy participating in. I dont like giving my time and money to fucking walmart, you know to faceless giant corporations. Or working so pablo can eat when his own tribe should be taking care of him. Humans are not meant to interact on such a large scale. We need to downscale before its too late.

>>129599650
>I dont like giving my time and money to fucking walmart,
then dont

>>129598146
You're indoctrinated by socialists, senpai. When taxes have to be siphoned from everyone to pay for something, it's not subject to the price system and the signals of profit and loss. It is ALWAYS less efficient and lower quality.

And it is not an investment. Investment is private individuals or organizations giving money to another private individual or organization voluntarily, with the understanding that they bear a risk of losing it, but which may result in a profitable business and a return (hopefully manyfold) on that investment.

Government "investment" does not create profitable businesses, it subsidizes unprofitable ones. Government "investment" does not bear any risk on the government employees or politicians, it is always on the backs of taxpayers. And government "investments" never fucking return anything to the taxpayer, not even the end product. It's shitty and expensive every time.

Bridges to nowhere.

If you want renewables to be like your metaphorical PC hardware, then like PC hardware, it cannot be subsidized. The only way for renewable energy to hit maximum possible efficiency and minimum possible cost is to ensure it is developed in a free market where innovation must make it profitable on its own. This ensures competition will enter the market once a profitable product is found, and costs will go down as new developments happen, while quality improves. JUST LIKE PC HARDWARE

>>129599825
Well corporations are merging into the larger its not much of a choice at this point. Its either participate in a failing system or die.

>>129600364
how will you die from not going to walmart?

>>129600497
You really think theres a system in place to live off the land without joining some crazy commune? This is the best choice the average peasant has and its going to fail someday. You thought the great depression was bad just wait.

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>>129587687

>Everybody has a bed in a capitalistic society
>Everybody is fed in a capitalistic society
>There is literally nothing stopping you from making lots of money in a capitalistic society all your own
>Some people are just way better off because they made the right moves and got a little lucky
>Those same people proceed to give giant sums of money to help the less fortunate

Capitalism is good, nigger.

>>129601111
you know there are stores other than wal-mart
90% of the crap they sell there you dont need anyway

>>129599851
Fuck off, libertarian, I make money on WS off of uninformed mongs like you each day, discussion is over.

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What was Obama thinking? He approved the theft of $16 Trillion from America for the world's wealthiest? And did it in secret? Anybody waking up?

>>129599825
>>129600364
>>129600497
>>129601111
>>129601290
Literally fucking Ultratech, games, film, and other media have been pointing to this shit for years. The future we chose indeed.

>>129601477
jajaja

Another great example. Banks are made to fail like any other.

>>129587687
hurr fascism is bad

>>129587687
Why should I care if some rich old guy has 80 bazillion dollars? It doesn't affect my ability to earn a living.

Wealth is created. It's not some fixed amount meant to be distributed evenly.

If you are supporting Socialism it's a sign of low intelligence.
It's also a sign of huge ignorance.

Why would you even believe we have Capitalism right now, when there are taxes, regulations, FORCED social security (in Germany at least), paid government by special interest.

In capitalism you own your own stuff and nobody can command you to buy or pay for anything unless you want it.

Socialists don't believe in property and ownership, that's why they are thieves. If you don't respect my rights, I don't respect your rights.

Only solution: Bullet in the head of socialists.

Just look at socialists, they are always aggressive and offensive, because they WANT something from you (your money and resources), while Capitalists only want to defend something.

I wont join any discussion. Socialists always try to manipulate you with emotions and false arguments (like Nazi-Germany or USSR wasn't "real" socialism).

Also capitalism is free choice, while socialism is forced by police and the societal majority.

>>129598837
Something tells me You will get enlightment on the 21st of August.

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Khazarian Mafia rules everything.

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>>129602010
>reddit spacing AND libertarianism

Haha, oh wow.

>>129587687
In communism, the shoe had already crushed them all to death...

And the poor clown too. He is dead.

Maybe that part isn't so bad...

>>129587687
If you get a degree and can't find a job, then you need to stop getting into social, political, ethno, gender studies and start either getting a STEM education or get a technical skill like welding, auto-mechanics, carpentry, construction, mining, or get an education or skill in special skills, like plane or helicopter piloting, militery where you can go private sector later on, work as police too.

You get the idea.

You will get a job and you will do awesome.

>>129591496
Lol, you think a Leader in the communist world will crawl in the trenches?

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Fixed the image. Fascism is fucking awesome and you should go live with those migrants and see how you like it, commie fuck.

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>>129602167
reddit spacing is totally warranted for a comment that dense
Also Ancap is the only redpilled ideology

>>129592529
"The Markets give a shit about my dollar"
Actually they care a fuckton more about people with way more dollars than you will ever have.

The free market is deeply distorted to provide what the wealthy want, while the poor get fuck-all because they don't have enough "votes" to make their voices heard.

>>129602552
>the vocational school cuck

http://hanushek.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/publications/Hanushek%2BSchwerdt%2BWoessmann%2BZhang%202017%20JHR%2052%281%29_0.pdf

Especially hilarious coming from a country where every citizen has a guaranteed job and income for life.

>>129602010
You dont need to defend any working society as "better". You need to be pragmatic and understand right now capitalism is out of control and we are ready for a change. We need nationalism not necessarily socialism, ideally insert "race" nationalism.

>>129603063
>Not being a National Bolshevik Strasserite
>2017
>leshiggydiggydoo

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ITT: autistic neets and hopeful-to-make-it coping wage cucks who think they're capitalist super heros for leeching off mommy instead of the tax payer or for being Shlomos good goy wage cuck that might be a rich capitalist one day!

>>129601386
Wow, you declared you won by fiat, so you won! Here's your trophy! Good job!

>>129587687
>notices those 8 people are all JEWISH
ummm guys lets not get anti-semitic here >.>

>>129593982
That's pretty metal, what's the source for these.

>>129592767
There is,the Jefferson way.

By killing the Banks.

>>129589205
holy shit fuck off with your Rationale™ 3rd worlder

>implying Hitler was a socialist
>implying Social Democraps are socialists
>implying Slavery is Capitalism

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>>129603408
>trying this hard to disparage hard work and earning your way, projecting your own neet tendencies upon those with principles antithetical to neet
to be this blue pilled... wew

>>129602846
Reddit spacing is no different from no spacing, you're not separating text into relevant sections.
It's just increasing the leading artificially.

Ancap solves none of the problems we face and the only attraction seems to be first order and second having an ideology at all. It's developed from a basic bitch cuckservative perspective, completely taking the leftist framework where any and all disagreement with them except for economics taboo.
It's the conservative version of becoming a trendy communist in college.

>>129593982
>The good people died first.
Hence why Eastern Evrope is lile 75% serial killers and child molesters

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>>129603668
>capitalist apologist frog poster

I'm trying to remind them their (((boss))) doesn't care about them and defending Shlomo like a good cuck is why this will never end

>>129587687
You phrased it so poorly that "git gud" is an argument that you can't even begin to refute. Stay mad and bad clown.

>>129589219
Even if the Holocaust happened in the way that is commonly described, your numbers implies that only Jews are people.

The genocide included other groups that often shoot those numbers to as high as 11 million I've seen.

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>>129589219
>MUH 6 MILLION ;_________;;
>Arms spending pre-war was barely enough to catch up to Western powers
>Debt as percentage of GDP decreased

And yeah, the flags are nice.

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>>129587687
>Live in capitalist society
>Have to work whole day every day
>minimum wage
>practically slavery
OP, some of us just weren't meant to live in this fucked up world.

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>>129587687

>>129599215
Honestly i think it's safe to say that there exists a global conspiracy of moloch worshipping, child sacrificing pedophiles, many of whom happen to be jewish who own just about everything that matters in order accomplish some seriously nefarious goals.

>>129587687
o.k...eight people control the wealth of the 50%
1: rich get rich by investing, and building business, they pay just as much tax. They can't claim zero unless it's actually zero
2."Average man" needs to work anyway capitalist or not: fields need tending.
3.whole day every day: not true. there are days off and vacations for people with decent jobs. do you work in day labor?
4. minimum wage should be equal to the prices of products which requires good competition between companies
5. It was you (and my) fault for pooring all our money into a for profit institution that sells education.
6. You probably can find a job... (Oh wait belgiummm... O.k you can't nevermind)
7. Automation with zero consumptions is pointless: you can't have automated unless ou have customers, which requires people with money. The populace will even itself out. Plus A world that is entirely automated becomes the matrix: which means you will be working just as hard as you were before: except you're a purely organic robot who is providing for other robots: like now...
8. I'm sorry you live in Belgium... I recommend Serbia.

>>129589458
/thread

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>>129604933
And all this, this thread and its consistent back and forth arguing over which is the best or the worst form of governing system, it is pointless. All things we create are doomed to corruption and failure, some of these systems more so than others but in the end, it is all the same with the larger influence it holds, the greater the ensuing chaos upon its collapse. No matter the level of control that is implemented even by the method of neural control chaos will still reign because WE are the unstable catalyst.

>>129605787
Ecclesiastes...

>>129594834
to see free market capitalism as "fuck you got mine" is to hold a giant flashing sign above your head saying "I HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT FREE MARKET CAPITALISM IS AND I THINK OUR QUASI-FASCIST CORPORATIST SYSTEM IS BAD MKAY BUT IM GONNA SAY THAT IT'S VOLUNTARY TRADE BECAUSE I HATE READING ANYTHING WITHOUT PICTURES"
The font would have to be bretty small to fit.
Capitalism is the reason you don't have to work 12 hours a day in a field for a subsitence wage. It's the reason you're on 4chan.

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>>129588366
Mind if I ask what program was used to make those edits, or one best for mac too

>>129603976
go lick Marx's balls, you whiney collectivist faggot

>>129587687
The top 1% pay for 40% of our taxes dipshit. The top 10% pay for the other 40%. So 89% of the population literally gets fed & provided for by the top 11%

>>129587687
>>129587845
It's more a matter of striking the right balance between two extremes. Enough socialism that you feel safe to invest and enough capitalism that you've got something to invest with.

Your daily reminder that central banking and corporatist lobbying are not free market capitalism. They're statist wet dreams.

>>129606101
And even with that we are to purpetuate our race to feed the never-ending wheel of suffering and joy? Life and death? To the amusement of God or a realization that we are meant to reach? In obedience to the Lord nothing will change for the rain fall upon the just and the unjust alike, is this notion a mere test of faith or otherwise? A game, a test to see if we are capable of absolute faith despite all falling short of the glory of God?

>>129587919
>>129587919
KEK.
Nazis were still forcing to work.
The answer is syndicalism.

>>129587919
that's ancap, moron

>>129591260
kek nice bant

>>129606819
free market went out the window when adam smith came along dude free market is a pipe dream. thats why ancaps are memes

>>129607938
>t. small thinker
Technology will render states more and more irrelevant.

>>129608630
>Technology will render states more and more irrelevant.
Techno-Commie.

>>129591128
The fuck is Ian doing on Rhodesia?

>>129590038
Reddit leafs are cancer

>>129589458
> excuse me, what you are referring to as socialism, is infact, social Marxism, or as I like to call it, pseudo-communism.

>>129587687
>no job = no pay

I will continue this for you:
>no pay = no consumption
>no consumption = no selling
>no selling = no profit

Yeah, as you would suspect at this point, this is not what the top brass wants in any way or form.

>>129589205
>Hitler banned guns
Hitler relaxed the gun laws of the Weimar Republic.
They only restricted them further for kikes and other non-germans because when you're an ethnic nationalist... why would you allow other nations to arm themselves and form insurgencies in your land?

>>129607319
>slavery to corporations with no protection from them
>good
KEK

>>129599650
Ironically, if a socialist society was ever created the distribution centers would look and feel exactly like walmart. Because if we take the ideal socialist society that they desire (working 3 days a week, food-supplies for all) then there would be no small stores, restaurants etc. The most socialist economically sound method of getting goods to people would be those giant and ugly walmart-type centers with everything you need in one place spread all over the world.

>>129587687
Free market capitalism has never been allowed to exist. Only government intervened crony capitalism has existed. And yes, that helps the elite step on the little guy. You aren't against capitalism, you are against crony capitalism, as are we.

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>>129610418
Fucking kek

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>>129587687
>eight people control as much wealth as the poorest 50%

Gee, I wonder who those (((eight people))) are...

>>129593087
North Korea is not a communistic state. It is National Socialism. They are starving because literally nobody can trade with them and they do not have enough land to do agriculture. If South Korea was cut off from as many people as North Korea they would be just as bad off.

>>129587845
There was, but it was fueled by natural resources which are no longer available in the same excess quantities as before.
>>129588416
>t. Young Republifat and future debt-slave
>>129589014
>Thats how we ended up in this situation in the first place. We fed Africa for generations
Your head is so far up your own ass that you can't, won't, or are being paid not to consider the option of feeding ourselves first rather than stringing along random Africans as an excuse for pirating their resources.

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>>129589205
Get your ass on livestream and drink bleach NOW you lying fucking cuck NOW

>>129616951
The whole point of capitalISM, like every other ISM ever, is to privilege capital over labor and resources.
>>129616404
>walmart
Probably more like Costco, which (unlike capitalistic Walmart) pays its people well enough to live.
Are you Young Republifats paid to not understand the difference between communism and socialism, or are you actually working for Neera "Scumbag" Tanden?

>>129612906
>it doesnt count as gun control if directed at people I dont like!
>its not wealth redistribution if it only takes from people I dont like!
Hitler was a gun-grabbing, leftist faggot

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>>129617457
neck yourself

>>129618117

Please, show us all those communist regimes where the average citizen and NOT the oppressive military had weapons.

You'll be fucking dead before you can show me where it all happened and worked successfully.

EVERY COMMIE NEEDS TO FUCKING DIE.

You included.

>>129618996
If you Americans were the least bit muh innovative and could see your way past larping the past over and over and over again, maybe you could get the plutocrat cum out of your throat for long enough to get some oxygen to your brain.
Eveey oligarch cocksucker needs to die. Especially you.

>>129618996
Also take your little college republifat ass back to lebbit.

>>129593938
at the cost of all our problems

>>129593819
Digital does not translate to fiat, its the mechanics and how the currency works that matters.
Banks control fiat, and not the same way they can control gold. they can't spawn new bitcoins or gold out of nothing, but they can with fiat.

>>129595061
you completely missed the point, I want money, I just want the money in society to be more real and have more real value.

If you are unable to sort thought such a basic message I don't really understand why you enjoy the conversation

>>129618499
Just became the nigger inmates on work release are willing to work for cheap for walmart, is not walmart's fault. It is the dumb fucking monkeys' fault. They are lucky to get a job and they steal a ton of shit from their employer as well so their low cost offsets their thievery.
You lefties are so fucking stupid. You think that having a high minimum wage is going to do something good. It isn't going to do anything good except make us all poor and make small business impossible. Wake up stupid lefty, wake up.

>>129618499
>Are you Young Republifats paid to not understand the difference between communism and socialism, or are you actually working for Neera "Scumbag" Tanden?

Are you incapable of not feeling like you're under attack when people reply to you? Maybe you should calm down, I was merely pointing out the irony that socialists (many whom I know personally) seek out small businesses and local venues while hating walmart (while yes and pretty evil company) on mainly aesthetic features and the same-ness at every location they open. But a successful socialist society would need some kind of large scale distribution center like walmat or costco or kmart to be effective.

>>129587687
>miniuam wage
wages are flat because of immgration stupid. capitolisim works when you don't get cucked by globalism memes

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The most funniest thing on /pol its how 95% of western autists understand communism.

>>129588723
If 80% of food is just thrown away why don't homeless people just dumpster dive. There's a lot of food in people's Garbage apparently

>>129620393
Hi, newfriend.
Merchandising is much less important when "shopping" is no longer an experience, which it is because shopkeepers want you to spend more money and configure their operations to encourage you to spend more time spending more money. When the warehouse is a place to go, get, and get out, it doesn't matter as much. A restaurant or a café, on the other hand, is a place where people do, or should, want to spend time, and making such places interesting and /comfy/ is a major boon.

>>129621839
>Hi, newfriend.

Hey newfag

>>129587687
That was a very vague way of saying you're a commie-cuck.

>>129621589
>doesn't know that grocers take pains to destroy food they throw away to prevent just that
>>129620248
Free markets and capitalism are contradictory. A free market does not privilege capital over labor. Capitalism necessarily does. A system that does not privilege capital over labor is not capitalism, but it could be a free market.
>muh lefties
>being this cucked to a fucking game of tug of war with real consequences
>muh brand name capitalism
>muh word fetishes
>still only has half their dick
You're still a young republifat, you are still a piece of shit, and you should still gitmo yourself.

>>129622427
nice false flagging

If you aren't, way to get people off and away the left/center retard.

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>>129622682
>way to get people off and away the left/center retard.
Good. All US politics is toxic center-right at the leftmost and Gitmo is the right fucking place for it.

>>129587919
stupid. in the last picture, everyone is working for the man with the tank