/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL

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FAQ:
>Do you support open borders?
No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens.
>Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads?
The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money.
>Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour?
No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society.
>Are you Jewish?
No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck.
>What will you do when governments take over you/reform?
Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!

I'm here for the revival.

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The state has no interest in opposing degeneracy.

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Open borders is an assault on private property.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8

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There is only one goal of a socialist state. Totalitarian enslavement.

>>129581852
/pol/ is a National Socialist/Fascist board get the fuck out, lolbertarianism is no longer practical.

>>129581852
>Ak-47
>on a capitalist flag

c'mon man

What proportion of libs need to be intelligent, proactive and skilled and pro-voluntary action in order to prevent society from imploding?

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>>129586025
?

>>129585831
not an argument
see pic related

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>>129585831
you're gonna create a white ethnostate only to devolve whites with your shitty disgenic socialist economics.

In your lust for traditionalism you forget that OUR INVENTION, free markets are what made whites so evolved.

>>129586083
he's right tho, Ak is a commie rifle.
AR-15 or FN FAL is for capitalists.

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>>129586081
100%

>>129586660
Look at my flag tho

>>129586081
Just let natural selection take care the worst.
Yes, I know it's not nice at all but some people are just burden and helping them won't help anyone.

>>129582355
>We support Palestine over Israel
Speak for yourself, the Israelis won that land fair and square.

>>129586081
none of them have to be intellegent, as long as they cant vote they'll be stuck on the bottom of the pyrimid forever and thats pretty good.

>>129586025
As a gun owning, liberty loving capitalist I own an M82 along with my ARs

All guns are bae

>>129586660
M16 is the most iconic weapon of capitalism. Other than that it would be the G36.

>>129586492
Sure but libertarianism is an endgoal it isn't necessary now, what we need now will inevitably require a degree of authoritarianism.

>>129585831
this

>>129587067
nah, it's the FN FAL
the M-16 is the weapon of imperialism

>>129586492
>NatSoc
>socialist economics

You don't understand NatSoc and you're blindly regurgitating dumb talking points like a shitskin zealot. The market in America today is far, far more "socialist" than it would be under a NatSoc regime.
America has a history of state funded, state owned projects which created advancements which far outpaced the consumer market. Profit is not the only motivator, it is simply the one which has universal appeal. War creates a drive, fear of losing, being subjugated. In times of war industry advances not because war itself as an abstract directly contributes to industry, but because people now have an impetus to strive for advancement. The nuclear bomb was not created by the free market, nor was the theory and math behind nuclear power ironed out by the free market. To this very day DARPA projects are years ahead of commercially available technology, and its specifically because the state has set clear far reaching goals and recruited the best possible minds to achieve them. It is a state orchestrated meritocracy that is surpassing the profit motive you Lolbertards worship as the only driving factor in life.

Your ideology is inherently wrong.

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>>129587089
I disagree, some folks like tol meme NatSoc as a means to Libertopia, which has some merits.

You forget that capitalism is the most eugenic system possible. Socialism focuses on reproducing the weakest in the genepool. this obviously puts a white ethnostate in permanent devolution. If there is to be any authoritarian cleansing of the world it MUST be based in capitalism and not egalitarian distributism. Any less will bring us to our own downfall.

>tfw trying to convince people that deregulation allows more power to the states/people
>tfw everyone is sucking govt dick constantly

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>>129585786
Ok kid

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>>129586492

>>129587505
Not all of us are idjits like this guy. If my "worst" neighbor were NatSoc I'd have pretty good neighbors.

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>>129587505
Your only point was that the american state has used conscription and socialist distributism to fund wars against the white ethnostate of the 3rd reich and then claimed capitalism is inherently wrong while pointing out none of what you said was the result of capitalism.

you're just rambling. read a fucking book. there's no point in arguing with someone who spews this unintelligent trash.

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>>129587505
>hurr goverments can control more capital and invest in large projects that it's just IMPOSSIBRUU for the free market to do
>REEEEE corporations control too much wealth we need to tax them more!
and no, the natsocs were more socialist than USA and even though it only lasted 3 years it still had devastating effects like malinvestment leading to shoe and clothing shortages
not to mention the early movement was happy to adapt marxism into it ie. strasserism

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>>129588135
Then why did Hitler privatize everything?

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>>129588207
>>Hitler
>>Socialist
>Hitler
>Capitalist

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>>129588292
meme version

That quote was actually said by Gregor Strassr. >>129588292
>>129587956

>>129588322
>ITS VOLKISH SOCIALISM! ITS DIFFERENT! WE ONLY WANT TO LEECH OFF THE GERMAN PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT!

>Be me Bernie. Wanting to tax people 90%
Reeeeeeeeeee stupid commie

>Be me capitalist. Takes 90% of the wealth that a worker produces in an hour.

A freedom fighter!

>>129588340
this is true, the strassers were subversive marxists that were eventually assassinated
>>129588207
and yes, later nazi germany was forced by the war to start selling off government assets, so was america, and Britain, but ideologically the brown shirts and early supporters of natsoc were radical left

>>129588074
Its troubling because uneducated zealots like this easily become the more prominent voices in a movement. Truly Libertarianism in earnest utterly died with Ron Paul.

>>129588090
You're the one rambling here. The context of who America was fighting is irrelevant, the only relevant information here is that a state, independent of the free market, advanced technology beyond what the consumer market was capable of at the time. This wasn't a once in a lifetime lightning strike either. It has been a steady trend. DARPA is consistently outpacing the absolute best technology that the market produces. Radios, cameras, computers, thermal optics, etc. DARPA produces things which completely leave the free market in the dust.

Profit is not the only motivator which creates a stable economy and society. State run projects like everything under the DARPA umbrella are not being made to turn a profit, they are being made to achieve technological goals established by the state. Shitskin zealot.

>>129588135
There isn't a single shred of logic in your babby tier shitpost.

>>129588571
No one wants to debate dumb socialists. The labor you put into a product has nothing to do with its value you idiot.

>>129588571
>be worker
>work for another capitalist that takes smaller profit margins and pays more

>be a bernout
>stuck in USSA because they banned emigration to stop all the producers from leaving

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>>129581852
This is an ancap meme thread now

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>>129588571
labour theory of value is a meme
1.) value is subjective not a sum of labour
2.) furthermore the employer/employee relationship is not exploitative but merely a function different of time preference rates, since the worker gets paid upfront but the employee only gets paid when the goods are sold, the employee prefers less wealth sooner and the employer will gain more wealth but later and thus at higher risk
3.) if i take a car and smash it with a hammer im adding labour to it but its grossly devalued you mongoloid
4.) with the LTV proven to be retarded your ideology falls apart

>>129588951
>Believing capitalism is only in the first world
>Believing that the first world magically gets the goods out of thin air
>Ignores the sweat shop labor that is required to produce the first world.

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>>129588759
>There isn't a single shred of logic in your babby tier shitpost.
there isn't a shred of argument in yours

>>129589082
>I can ignore the argument by posting memes.

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>>129589067
>something I didn't say or imply
>another thing I didn't say or imply
>more communist drabble

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>>129589215
>Butthurt classcuck who cherry picks what capitalism is.

At least communists have objective check lists of what socialism and communism is.

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Is he /ourguy/?

Hello fellers, I'm one of the guys from the Irregulars. Somebody needs to explain to me why Chris Cuckwell is still on this list. Lets review the facts.

> Race mixing faggot

> Aborts children

> Violates the NAP when he beats his girlfriends

> Drug (meth) addict and alcoholic

> Says he doesn't believe in intellectual property and then content strikes people

> Doxes ex girlfriends, even personal details like them be molested as kids, just to be petty

Why do you support faggots like this /pol/?

>>129589383
top fucking kek noice

>>129588759
>Profit is not the only motivator
You don’t understand that “profit” is not only monetary. Profit is when you get your desired outcome. You may choose a lesser monetary reward for better circumstances and still be considered profiting from your choices.

Read just the first chapter of “Man, Economy and State”. Or perhaps “Human Action” if you want to understand why real profit has nothing to do with money obsession or shekel worship. Money is a false god.

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>>129589354
>objective check lists of what socialism and communism is.
is "it doesn't have toilet paper shortages and a meany in charge" one of your "objective checks"?

>>129582355
so can i have recreational nukes?

>>129588207
dream on, faggot

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>>129589832
heh if you can even afford it kiddo

>>129589832
funny thing about the state regulating nukes, if you have them, you're the one making the rules
and people with the capital to afford nukes are already so rich that they're above the law today

>>129589627
> Race mixing faggot
Don't know anything about his relationships maybe he did.
> Aborts children
He never aborted a child, he was banging a psychopath who couldn't handle reality, he staunchly opposes abortion
> Violates the NAP when he beats his girlfriends
Sauce on this?
> Drug (meth) addict and alcoholic
Yeah he’s done drugs
> Says he doesn't believe in intellectual property and then content strikes people
He’s using youtubes system to protect his income, has nothing to do with his property.
> Doxes ex girlfriends, even personal details like them be molested as kids, just to be petty
Psycho bitch aborted his kid, I'd take a huge shit on her too for that.

>>129589832
If nukes are outlawed then only outlaws will have nukes

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>>129590385

>>129589082
The argument is that in the right landscape Nationalized industries function. Not only do they function but they strive, and are capable of putting the free market to shame.

This Nationalization of certain industry is the only "socialist" aspect of NatSoc when it comes to economics. The free market driven by profit motives is not done away with under NatSoc ideology, it still exists, certain industries and projects are simply deemed realm of the state. Exactly like was done in wartime America, and exactly like DARPA is today.

You don't have any argument, neither does the other retarded zealot posted image macros ITT, because neither of you actually understand what NatSoc is. You don't even understand economics, nor do you understand human beings. As I said, profit is a universal motive. The "free market" works because people at every level in society can participate in it and reap its rewards. However it is not the sole motivating factor which is capable of producing advancement and stability.

My position is entirely logical, factual, and backed by decades of real world evidence. You have nothing by childish memes, like all Lolbertards.

>>129589688
You lack the IQ to even process what you're reading here.

>>129590661
>The argument is that in the right landscape Nationalized industries function.
yes, competition leads to efficiency
the difference is that for a state to compete it needs to be fighting for it's survival ie. war
a private company can fight for it's survival completely peacefully
so yes, in wartime, nationalized industry can produce efficiently
but it only works when your people are being murdered in mass, so there's that

>>129590661
I've heard his shit argument a hundred times. all his spew about war being a motivator for innovation and somehow not having anything to do with profit.
Winning a war is profit. The motivation for wanting profit does not change anything. You fags think economics is about shekel worship. Its about Human Action.

>>129581852
Are there police in an ancap society? If there are, is the police force privately owned? If it is, what will stop them becoming the state

>>129591077
Retard, DARPA's existence has nothing to do with war. It doesn't exist because of our involvement in the middle east. It exists because it works, it works better than the free market, and there are reasons for that which a brainwashed ideological zealot is incapable of understanding. Stop being married to your ideas.
If a company advances technology, produces something great, but the idea doesn't sell in the free market a Lolbertard like you would call it a failure. A company needs to make money, needs to sell products in order to survive. If it doesn't then it will die. A company dying means that valuable IP either stays locked away in limbo, or it gets bought up by another firm. This may be a company from a completely different country, a country which doesn't have the economic best interests of the US in mind.

DARPA exists to advance technology. It exists in the realm of the state so that advancements don't fall into enemy hands. No idea needs to be marketed to a consumerist public, they don't have to worry about reaching the right demographic, they don't have to worry about price point, and hitting a financial ROI. Some advancements are stepping stones, and those advancements may not directly produce a product fit for commercial sale, but they still have value that is in the interest of the country to protect.

>>129591412
Nice retort, shitskin.
DARPA is not contingent on the US fighting in and winning a war. It is a Nationalized body that exists explicitly for America.

>>129591558
> is the police force privately owned?
when there's a single, privately owned police force, that's a monarchy, which is a state yes, but in many ways is superior to democracy
but for there to be ancapism there needs to be polycentric law, with multiple law firms and courts competing not for who can oppress the most but for who can supply the demand of protection and safety the most efficiently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o&t=843s

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>>129591933
>Retard, DARPA's existence has nothing to do with war

Hue hue hue
Muh roads
Muh roads
I love gary johnson

>>129592339
DARPA would continue to exist even if America never participated in armed conflict for the next 50 years. Being oriented around national defense does not mean it is a wartime organization.
You really don't understand anything. Take away your memes, reaction images, and your bland talking point image macros and you're completely ideologically empty. Every single Lolbertard thread on /pol/ goes the same way.

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>>129592595
>DARPA would continue to exist even if America never participated in armed conflict for the next 50 years.
you must have some kind of crystal ball
because there's absolutely no reason to think that
I think america can afford to cut back on the military spending
somehow you think this is a radical zealot's idea
and I'm the ideologue

Okay, I'm really into this no government thing, but I have some concerns:

1) What will become with the environment with no regulations?
2) How will natural resources like water and gas be handled?
3) What happens when someone doesn't have enough money to go to court?

>When you're ruled by a tyrannical authoritarian regime but it's okay because it's a for-profit private corporation and not a democratically elected government

>>129581852
What you gonna do with potholes?

>>129593356
fix them, probably

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>>129581852
When will the LRG fully embrace all of the implications of self ownership?

>For he that leaves as much as another can make use of, does as good as take nothing at all. Nobody could think himself injured by the drinking of another man, though he took a good draught, who had a whole river of the same water left him to quench his thirst. And the case of land and water, where there is enough of both, is perfectly the same.

John Locke —Second Treatise of Government, Chapter V, paragraph 33

>>129593112
Your poorly formed position has now devolved into
>I want to decrease military spending

You're so completely defeated that you're doing nothing other than grasping at straws. Thanks for admitting and amply demonstrating that you have no idea what NatSoc is.

>>129593398
Again, companies need to be profitable to stay alive. They cannot simply carry out advanced R&D for the sake of it. No private company beholden to its own bottom line could accomplish what a Nationalized body like DARPA can accomplish. They have to get a return on investment for everything, a state does not. The state can afford to do so because it is not competing against the free market. The state doesn't have to create marketing campaigns to make the iPhone 7s seem fashionable to teenagers. And yes, taxes as a concept are legitimate.

>>129593828
Though I do look forward to the next thread where you petulant children include some passive aggressive quip about NatSoc ideology and pretend like you haven't roundly embarrassed yourselves here.

>>129593141
original questions, a first
1) well-defined property rights and mutually-beneficial exchange in a genuine free market create strong incentives for environmental stewardship, thwarting the kinds of environmental degradation that have been all too common under the status quo, defined by pervasive regulation, inept bureaucracy, and thus frequent disasters. Trash, pollution, and other liter is always more abundant on public property because of no single owner or monetary incentive to maintain the property. The most polluted countries on the planet are Russia and China, both with heavy amounts of nationalized industry. Also, law, order, and regulations aren't absent in libertarianism, there simply not enforced or legislated by a single monopoly, so in a case of air pollution where nobody owns the atmosphere, you can still settle a grievance in court if the law firms or landowners in a community were effected

>>129595045
2) private entrepreneurs, businessmen, and household consumers will be the source of demand for clean drinking water, companies will meet this demand and bid up property that has natural fresh water or building reservoirs. This will give the owners of the land or rivers and incentive to keep them clean and fresh by avoiding pollution to protect their bottom line or sell the property to someone more capable of doing so. Scarcity of water and fluctuation of the market price will cause people and businesses to conserve during droughts unlike what we have in the US today where water is subsidized by the government which worsened the California drought.
Same things for Gas but with the added problem of oil spills. Private road companies with an incentive to keep their property usable and profitable will want to minimize the risk of spills on truck transport and thus have terms of service requiring oil trucks to have reasonable security in their construction. as for water transport, parcels of oceanic territory will also be privately owned or travel through national waters (so follow the rules of the country).

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>>129593300
1.) Not an argument
2.) Literally a meme tier non-argument at that, anarcho-capitalism is more than just 'keep the current system but abolish the state overnight'

>>129593141
1.) Personally, I'm a strong believer that private property protects the environment better than governmental ownership. Consider the massive track record of pollution by government, especially socialist ones. Also consider then, under anarcho-capitalism: You have two possible methods of waste disposal. (1) On your own property - and why would you wish to devalue your own property? (2) On others property - and it is clear that constitutes as aggression. As such, the only solution would seem to be a contract with a waste disposal facility, which should naturally compete and become pretty environmentally friendly.
Also consider that pollution is an act of aggression, so that anyone who pollutes in a large scale is viable to be sued. Lastly, technological innovations can help combat pollution, which obviously are more abundant in a free market.
2.) By private companies, obviously. If you're talking about their scarcity, see https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly
3.) I mean, tough shit, they have no real way to protect themselves in case of a property violation outside of their weaponry. As a more practical answer, the amount of people unable to afford a REA of some sort should be very low. Consider the austrian view of free markets - profits are essentially socialised, and in any sense we are all a lot richer/everything is a lot cheaper. Furthermore, even without a welfare state, charity, family and church exist for the truly needy.

>>129595145
3) What happens when someone doesn't have enough money to go to court?
I hate using the charity argument but in the case of someone who is believed by members of the community to be innocent, charity will crop up to meet this need. But in addition to this, private law companies that are able to be more lenient and reasonable with people and assume innocence until proven guilty will be more attractive to consumers and businesses that want to keep their communities secure but also create and environment that's welcoming to customers.

>>129593710
>that quote
so when Africans overpopulate they are entitled to our land too, just because they were born?

>but its not yours
If people spent hundreds or thousands of years fighting to create and maintain something it seems like its theirs.
What makes someone else entitled to it for merely being born?

>>129581852
collectivism for the jews anti-collectivism for the whites. sounds like another jewish group evolutionary strategic plan. no wonder all the libertarian forefathers are jews.

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>>129595777
>Implying centralist-collectivism is good
see >>129585356
welfare is dysgenics

>>129595777
we're not anti-collectivism. We're anti-compulsory collectivism. people collectivise naturally and its fine.

>>129593828
>Your poorly formed position has now devolved into I want to decrease military spending
I wasn't arguing a position, I was arguing a fact of life: without competition you get stagnation
it was just in the context of darpa
when the government starts going full Germany and importing shitskins in mass to deal with its aging population and debt, you're going to wish we took a critical look at our overspending back when it mattered

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>>129593141
1) private regulations
ie: the goverments have must monopoliced that tool of our own lives, we cannot make our own rules on our own terms over our own shit or when agreeing with someone else

ancapia is taking that back, simple as that, keeping the bully (gov) out

2) how did natural resources ended in the hands of the states? absolute inmorality: war, conquest, domination

currently it's not private property, the state owns it all and it's interests are not equal of those of a private owner who GIVES A SHIT about the value of it, as he will mind preserving its value or growing it to leave as an heritage to his very own familiy or w/e

the state rents its shit without giving zero fucks, politicians and statesmen just care about their own positions in power and fulfilling its requeriments makes them pursue instant gratification

the state sucks at taking care of its natural resources, their mistakes have no cost in their personal lifes

if you fuck up your own water due to instant gratification, you're fucking yourself up in the long term, this doesn't happen in politics

owners play a different game at life than politicians, consequences are not the same

3) they ask for sympathy, if they deserve some

do you prefer scumbags to feel entitled to your sweat
or do you prefer honest people who recognice they've fucked up asking for help with humility?

I guess you prefer to live in the first hell scenario, cuz you're an idiot
Erradicate all humans.

>>129593710
>Nobody could think himself
Im glad pohilosophy has evolved enough to identify a no true scotsman as a logical fallacy
this doesnt make locke wrong, of course. but neither does it make him right

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>>129593828
>No private company beholden to its own bottom line could accomplish what a Nationalized body like DARPA can accomplish.
lol not only did they accomplish it they did it while having to pay taxes towards niggers that burn their own neighborhoods down
>we should keep paying taxes to niggers because muh darpa
lol

>>129582355
>when you are a tranny degenerate drug user but you make 6 figures, own multiple properties, and are building up to go full off the grid prepper nut
The best part about Libertarians that your degeneracy and my degeneracy are opinions that can be maintained in separate spheres.

>>129594152
I look forward to the thread when you stop being so new and realize natsoc will only survive in a society that recognizes the freedom to diassociate

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>>129596629
mfw

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Portubro reporting in for duty. How are my friends doing today? I saw the thread in the archives where the (((leaf))) tried to slander Hoppe as a communist, you guys put him back in place. Good job.

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>>129581852

Question for you from a noob, all schools of /lrg/:

If a barista-tier college grad type with almost no capital of his own sought to man up and assimilate to an /lrg/-type society, how should he go about staking his own claim in it (in terms of accumulating value, capital, land, etc)?

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>>129597963
morning coffee and korean jazz make for a pretty good morning here in California portbro

>>129595145
>>129595160

Thanks for the answers.

I got some more questions:

4) What happens to public spaces like parks and campsites?
5) How do private road companies get their profits?
6) How is currency value determined and enforced? Is it gonna be like in the middle ages, where each considerably large community has its own currency?

>>129581852
Reporting in for privatized RWDS.
Also thanks for using my pastebin, Britbro.

>>129598048
since all property would be private, gaining residence would require you to be invited by a member of that society that was willing to
>sell you property
>keep you as a tenant in his property
>employ you and provide housing as par the terms of the arrangement
In the latter two options they are legally responsible for your actions, so while the easiest and cheapest way to get into the country, your freedom of action and movement would be limited under the terms of your patron
immigrating to ancapistan would involve a long process of proving loyalty first to a property owner, gaining and maintaining employment, then working until you can afford your own land, which would be very valuable since it's basically a sovereign country of your own.

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>>129597963
Wassap dude. ive found some other folks making hoppewave.
a tribute to your works i suppose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw

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>>129588571
You forgot to mention the fact that the large machinery you're using is owned by me.
Either way, political activism is banned on my property, and since now everyone knows you're a communist, enjoy the helicopter ride. I hear the Pacific is beautiful at sunset.

>>129598322
4.) They become privately owned. What exactly this entails is up to the property owners - they could become paid, ran by charity, ran by the city using funds from investment projects, who knows.
5.) Same as above: Could be tolls, subscriptions, ad space on roadside billboards, paid for by car companies sponsoring their cars to drive on the roads...
6.) Either a gold standard or cryptocurrency.

>>129598789
>Britbro
I'm not the real britbro! Is he not the guy who runs the website? Not me.

>>129589383
Kind of. He absolutely annihilated Bergie in the healthcare debate. The only numbers Beanie mentioned were "millionaires" and "billionaires".

>>129581852

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>>129598283
Glad you're doing a-ok bud. Sorry you have to live near commies.

>>129598322
Public property belongs to everyone and no one specifically at the same time. The correct way of privatizing it would be to attribute each taxpayer a share of public property according to the taxes they paid and the locations they actually visited using public property. This would exclude bums and public servants to access these place immediately, since bums pay no taxes and public servants are paid out of taxes. This would be the ideal scenario but I recognize there would be massive court cases because of confusion due to who gets many shares and how someone could get rid of them. Which I I simply believe the best way of doing it would be to let homeowners whose property was adjacent to the public property to be attributed all the shares and then figure something out between them.

Private roads get their profits by building access ways to buildings where people buy stuff and then a percentage of said building's profits go to the road company. There could also be tolls in some places or the placement of billboards for ad revenue.

Most likely there would be a return to a gold standard or more modernly the widespread adoption of cryptocurrencies. If every person was free to issue their own paper fiat money, the marginal cost of production would be zero and there would be so many currencies that the marginal revenue would also be zero. Paper money would be worthless without a state enforcing monopoly rights on central banks and imposing legal tender laws. So we'd see a return to metal coins, the proliferation of decentralized and anonymous cryptocurrencies, and the death of central banks.

>>129599356
what did he mean by this

>>129589627
Yeah, he has a bad past. Now he's yellowpilling NatSocs and bringing together a stronger white nationalist movement.
Why aren't you bullhorning the Bilderberg meeting, screaming about the Jews?
Why aren't you showing up to rallies to spread your message?
As far as the other charges go, Heimbach used to date a Jewess whom most of you probably know. Augustus Sol Invictus is a druggie. Yet both of these men have done more for our cause (I know that Heimbach's a Strasshole, but he can be reasoned with) than you.
Put together a stronger movement and join up with the alt-right, and your autism will aid us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY

>>129599059
Oh, sorry.
There's more of us? Why did nobody tell me?

>>129599356
thank you for your input

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>>129598824
Oh my, this is great. Kek I'm glad to see other people are inspired by /lrg/ and the things we did over the last months. All these threads and arguing with strawmen are paying off. Even Mises.org wrote an article on us, and said Mises himself understood meme magic and Hoppe was our favorite. I cannot wait to see if Hoppe mentions his memes at this year's PFS.
Maltabro if you're reading this, you must tell Hoppe to Google himself on YouTube!

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>>129599814
welcome

>>129598322
>What happens to public spaces like parks and campsites?
we already have a lot of private outdoor recreational areas in the US that are funded by hunters/outdoorsmen that use the land
we also have public land that for the most part is either barren and unused or an embarrassment, like Yosemite, literally one of the most beautiful places in the world, but the government takes none of the necessary steps to make sure the wildlife is naturalized, people are always feeding the squirrels and birds to the point that they're dependent and fat, idiots are leaving bottles and cans in the rivers and fucking around, and the rangers don't give a shit because they get paid either way. In my neighborhood the property values for houses near a park tend to be higher than similar houses with no park. So it's essentially a luck of the draw based on how the city council decides to build the parks, as opposed to foresight and investment by the property owners or builders.
>How do private road companies get their profits?
If I ran a road company, I'd imagine getting a step ahead of the competition (which keep in mind isn't just other road companies but also trolleys, planes, and walking) by issuing membership cards to my customers with monthly subscription fees. these cards would function the same as a drivers license and effect the rate based on the times they drove, weight of the car, and miles driven to incentivise driving conservation and planning to avoid heavy traffic and keep a steady flow of cars. I'd also accept money from businesses that wanted my roads to lead to them to relieve the costs from the divers, and offer to pay the rate of roads owned by other companies that my patrons often use to make it more convenient and efficient for them up to a certain amount so they don't need to own multiple subscriptions

>>129599655
It's stuff like this why we put up with Chris' degeneracy.
Like it or not, he's still one of our best representatives.

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>>129598979
nice meme, good payload to drop off

>>129600137
The episode with morrakiu or whatever his name is was great. They brought up some great ideas after circle jerking for a bit. I'd like to make some propaganda images based on that clip and the clip on capitalism undermining Jewish power as we're so often accused of being globalists. If you haven't watched the full episode I suggest you all do. They made great points against NatSoc economics without being muh authoritarianism cucks.

I'm rambling now, just check it out of you haven't.

>>129582355
Who the fuck are you talking in name of?

If you are a libertarian, you contradict yourself if you believe in open borders, however, as long as government taxes people, it must have a closed border where only tax payers keep the benefits of what they pay for.

I am libertarian-capitalist, I believe all none essential back bone of government should be cut to reduce tax as much as you can. But there are things that need to exist on a "socialist" system, dare I say, like law enforcement and justice system, so that they become impartial.

What do you mean "We support Palestine". Fuck Palestine. They can fucking get cluster bombed until extinction. I support the greater Israel. The one that extends from the Nile to Euphrates rivers.

>United Kingdom
Ah, fuck off you Mudslime Paki cunt. Eat your own shit and die.

>>129600988
wat

>>129600594
I have, it was great.

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>>129600988
>Who the fuck are you talking in name of?
It's a FAQ for non-libertarian newfags and natsocs on the border of conversion.
>I support the greater Israel
oy vey
>Ah, fuck off you Mudslime Paki cunt. Eat your own shit and die.
Not an argument. Also I'm white, unlike you, saudi :^)

>>129599433
>The correct way of privatizing it would be to attribute each taxpayer a share of public property according to the taxes they paid and the locations they actually visited using public property.
this guy had the patience and discipline to read Hoppe's chapter on syndicalism, nice

>>129582355
>No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society.

CHRISTKEKS ARE NOT LIBERTARIANS.

>>129601843
Christ wasn't mentioned at all in that quote.

>>129600988
>But there are things that need to exist on a "socialist" system, dare I say, like law enforcement and justice system, so that they become impartial.
you need a lot of faith in government to think it will be impartial all the time
polycentric law enforces impartiality through market forces and real separation of powers. Unlike government trials where innocent until proven guilty is just a formality at best and a scam at worst, justice firms that disregard a persons presumption of innocence even once will ruin their reputation forever and have a line of companies ready to replace them. Read the machinery of freedom or the not so wild west
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o&t=38s

>>129601413
I read three of Hoppe's books so far, and I remember the "anarcho-syndicalist" privatization chapter pretty well because of people asking how to privatize roads in these threads. He himself said it was no easy task.

>>129602148
You are right, there have been many cases where government based police systems have been corrupt. No one can deny that.

However, it's better than having private army and private police that is owned by one person.

I rather have them be commanded by an elected dictator than someone who owns them to be above the law.

>>129603088
But anon, having monopoly rights on law provision not only leads to corruption and
to lower quality of law plus long waiting times but also leads to Saudi Arabia tier law.

Also how much taxes do you pay there?

>>129601294
You say libertarian in one breath and talk about how you are against someone coming in and out of a land that doesn't belong to you, assuming you aren't paying tax. If you pay tax, of course the land is your rent and you can have all the borders you want.

Simple, abolish tax, no borders. tax, get borders.

You also talk about how you are against drugs. Who the fuck are you? That is a violation of someones liberty and none of your god damn business.

You are not a libertarian. You are a communist fuck.

>>129603404
No tax what so ever. Only tax is collected on corporations. 80% from oil based industry and 20% on rest.

Which is what keeps Saudi Arabia tax free. I don't assume that it will last long. We are fucked once that is gone, all the expenses that we have today will soon be our burden, that's if I don't defect.

>>129604051
I thought you guys had moved past oil revenue? Or perhaps I'm confusing you with UAE. How are the politics of your country? Are people socialist or capitalist? Or is religion an overriding factor in politics there? You called the British guy a Mudslime so I assume you're not a native?

>>129603748
right of discrimination faggot
you own land,you do whatever the fuck you want with your land,you can forbid people to come in your land
you bake cakes for married couples but you hate fags,you can not baking this fucking cake unless you don't ow your shop

>>129603748
>What is voluntary association
>What is a covenant community

>>129604298
First of all I am an Arab, I just have some Russian and Eastern Europe in me. Half-white. Yay. But I don't care about race, just memes. Unless they are niggers, not black people, I mean nigger niggers. I hate fucking niggers.

That might be the UAE that has moved past Oil, It's very tourist friendly, for an Arab country.

Saudi Arabia is still knees deep in oil income. We produce nothing, and all our labor is from East Asian countries.

The people sure do have a capitalist mindset for the most part, until Soros kikes come to our country to rip it to shreds. Our people understand property rights, they understand that taxation is theft. Buuuut they don't understand that hierarchical commands are oppressive and threat to liberty and personal freedoms.

>>129605199
> not black people, I mean nigger niggers.
french guy raised in an Parisian suburb here
what's the difference ?

>>129605199
Shite. Looks like you guys will be fucked too once Mr. Soros focuses his energies on the Middle East. Have you tried to emigrate to a better country?

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>>129581852
In ancapistan could I create a white only community out of 50 acres of bare land and dedicate an entire acre to a yearly mock holocaust effigy burning of giant bales of hay shaped into a jew face?

>>129603748
I agree with Saudi bro.

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>>129606827
Yes

>>129606827
Sure, it's your property. I encourage you to do so.

>>129606827
sure

>>129606827
Make Auir Great Again

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>>129606926
Congratulations you made three contiguous posts.

>>129582355
>We support Palestine over Israel
Ancaps don't support terrorist states

>>129607095
In my book they can both be carpet bombed to hell I don't care.

>>129581852

Anyone catch cantwell talk about meeting the madman himself sam hyde? Sam's a big guy.

>>129586025
For sale commie rifle. Never fired only dropped once.

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>>129581852
Serious question:
How does a libertarian society deals with parents abusing their own children?
In my opinion this is the weakest link in the libertarian mindset.

>ancaps are for open boarders.

not in my boarders nigger.

https://youtu.be/qWR1l8y-erw?t=15

>>129607342
This.

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>>129607937
Children call the cops on their parents for assault

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>>129607937
True, but while abusive parents are a problem, the insanely humongous, you have to remember the people at the very top of the political, entertainment, sports, media, medicine, military industries and much more are gematria obsessed, ritual based, numerical occultists who regularly rape, consume, and sacrifice children. That is a much bigger problem than a parent here and there that's an ass hole.

>>129607937
Sigh.

Parents don't have property rights over their children, they have property rights over the custody of their children. Hurting children would be just as punishable an offense as any other property rights violation.

States would also not be able to do what they currently do to families, which is sending their children to state schools where they are brainwashed and pozzed into accepting ridiculous, anti-parental authority and defiant stances against parents. Community life would improve because of this and because of the other features of libertarianism/AnCapism, and putting community organizations like churches and clubs back into social life would improve bonds between people, not worsen.

There would be a free market in the property titles to children's custody and more and better adoption houses and orphanages, so children could have a better life instead of staying with incompetent or unwilling parents until a public worker put them to rot in a state foster care.

>inb4 there would be pedophiles who bought kids to hurt them
Like there are people who buy stuff and then break them. They're a minority, and foster cares would vet their clients because foster homes who sell kids to pedophiles and criminals won't have a very good reputation with the media nor parents.

More questions:

1) If an entire land with an existing ethnocultural identity is up for grabs and private ownership under ancap, what stops market forces from preventing the very migration and cultural dilution that is happening with globalism?

2) should fundamental Islam be allowed to exist in an ancap society?

>>129607937

>You live in Ontario, Canada
>Pink-haired school psychologist with tattoos and ear spacers decides your daughter is a boy, prescribes hormone blockers
>You refuse to administer said hormone blockers
>Pink haired school psychologist calls Children's Aid Society (CAS)
>Green haired CAS robot with tattoos and nose spacers arrives and exercises her authority to remove your daughter from your home without a hearing
>Appear before feminist activist judge at temporary care and custody hearing
>Feminist judge orders your daughter into crown wardship
>Daughter is placed at state-run group home, has hormone blockers administered by blue-haired group home staff members, is raised to believe her white cis father is evil and by extension, so are all men
>Daughter receives state funding to attend two-year social service worker college program. Graduates and accepts job offer at CAS

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>>129609854
>what stops market forces from preventing the very migration and cultural dilution that is happening with globalism?
Nothing except the free market, and considering only 20% or so of the refugees coming into Europe are actually getting jobs, it should do the trick.

>should fundamental Islam be allowed to exist in an ancap society?
As long as they don't violate the NAP, if they try to dictate my behavior on any property other than theirs though, they'll get filled with lead.

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>>129610088
Thanks for the insight bros.

>>129589067

Sweatshops pay far better wages than other local businesses. They're oversubscribed

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>>129589067
You ever notice that these sweatshops always seem to be in nations that aren't economically free? China, India, South America, etc.

>>129595160
That's just as bad as the EU, Hoppe. What's needed is a return to nation-states, not a federation of them.

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>>129608826

> Hurting children would be just as punishable an offense as any other property rights violation.

There is no one to enforce said punishment for any of the offences that you have mentioned. You are imagining of a judge and police that exists out of thin air, that holds the same values as yours.

I am not sure why the world would not end up in a similar fashion to today's shit-storm even if you completely abolish all institutions. You also have no plan at all, except a wish, to make this into habbenings.

>>129605602
Niggers don't work or don't work hard, they speak broken English or whatever country are in that's not in Africa, they make poor life choices and blame others and society for their misdeeds, niggers commit crime for the sake of swag and being a baller, niggers have kids that they don't take care of, niggers do hard drugs, niggers don't go to school, niggers are racist, niggers are commies.

Pick one or all.

>>129605632
I will once I get my inheritance, and open a liqueur store and a dive bar in Texas, and if I get citizenship I will open a gun store, that's my life long dream.

>>129604305
Only on your land tho. As long as you pay tax the entirety of the state is the common land of all. You lose that right once tax is abolished. Because your land becomes limited to your property.

>>129614290
its pretty fucked that all you want is to open a dive bar and a gun store and the state makes it hard for you. Good luck to you.

Since you listed McVeigh I'm going to assume you like the Turner Diaries as well

Its the worst fucking book I've ever suffered through no wonder libertarians are a huge fucking joke that got old in 2012 already

may I suggest suicide

>>129597963
>How are my friends doing today?
Considering the leftist dyke Kathleen Wynne is raising the minimum wage, not so well

>>129614026
A priori false just like the rest of your ramblings. Read The Ethics of Liberty by Rothbard and the chapter on children's rights if you're interested.

>>129614290
Good luck Saudibro.

>>129614982
We like McVeigh because he bombed a federal building.

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>>129614982
Who? Do you mean Timothy "Physically removing a federal building" McVeigh?

>>129614519
That's why I'm an ancap

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>le who will build the roads
HP unironically built a railroad from China to Poland to get their laptops to Europe:
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/05/chinas-continent-spanning-trains-are-running-half-empty-one-belt-one-road-bri/

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>>129581852

Friedman should be /lrg/-approved, primarily for being flawless in debates, but also for the massive butthurt generated by the Chicago bois

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