She is right, you know, walls literally do not solve anything

>>129576562
tell that to israel

Borders are a social construct.

>>129576709
Israel is 25% Arab

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Here is a chart showing the effectiveness of Hungarys border wall. 'Walls don't work' is something liars say in order to import more shitskins.

Ban them by boats, planes, marriages and student visas.

Build a wall.

Deport them.

There you go.

>>129576856
they are called slaves

>>129576863

Dang look at that, when you combine walls with enforcement you get results somehow. If only we could find some way to pay for this 10 billion dollar wall to stop the illegals who we pay 100 billion tax dollars for annually

>>129576856
It used to be 100% Arab.

>>129576709
Actually, Israel has a shitton of migration. Many Arab Israelis marry girls from outside of Israel, thus allowing for non-Jewish immigration.

>t-that wall won't work you idiot! They'll come anyway! Y-you stupid goyim fuck you are going to regret building it!!!

Okay, well, I'm going to build it anyway and we'll see if it works or not

>NO YOU STUPID FUCKING BAD GOY THE WALL WONT WORK WE'LL JUST SEND THEM BY BOAT AND BY PLANE YOU INSIGNIFICANT LITTLE SHITHEAD GOYIM YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT OR WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH! WE'RE IN CHARGE HERE AND THE WALL WON'T WORK SO DON'T EVEN TRY YOU IDIOT GOYIM!!!!!!!!

>>129576709
Much smaller country. I hate to admit it but Mutti is right about this one. Only full scale razzias and deportations will work but that would be le nazi.

>>129576863
>Here is a chart showing the effectiveness of Hungarys border wall. 'Walls don't work' is something liars say in order to import more shitskins.
Yeah, that is incorrect.

95% of our illegals pass through Hungary. And the numbers have been pretty much constant before and after the Hungarian fence was created.

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I agree partially. The real solution is extermination teams.

It really made me think, during the election, when Soros-funded illegal immigrants were jumping up and down on car hoods with burning American flags, or with Mexican flags, how diversity and tolerance of crime, is our greatest strength.

>>129576896
Aussie, why do you have so many Asians? Why do they still come to marrry, study and work? You are literally an island and still are being Asianed.

So don't tell me Merkel ain't right. You would have to change a shitton more than just build a wall.

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>>129576562

Meanwhile....

>>129577118
>>t-that wall won't work you idiot! They'll come anyway! Y-you stupid goyim fuck you are going to regret building it!!!
>Okay, well, I'm going to build it anyway and we'll see if it works or not

Merkel doesn't say not to build the wall. She says that the wall alone is inefficient, which is 100% correct. You need to change immigration laws, stopping all immigration due to family reasons.

>>129576562
Tell that to Japan

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take a look at this picture taken a few weeks ago

Couldn't the wall be justified as a works program? Or do we just give people money and not expect able body people to work?

>>129576997
They cost us more than that a year.....

Yes, listen to Merkle, you dumb muricunts.

The person that flooded the country she vowed to protect with millions of illegal immigrants and economic refugees by inviting them all in and then openening the borders wide for everyone to enjoy the german welfare system and replace the native population.

She is the right person to listen to when it comes to matters of immigration, for sure.

>>129577255
Those are Ancient walls and anyone can go inside the vatican.

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>>129576562

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>>129576562
Did she give any solution? if not she should stfu.

>>129576788
you are a social construct

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>>129577417
>CONDITIONAL gibs

>>129577539
>Did she give any solution? if not she should stfu.

The funny thing is, Merkel actually truly provided a solution. No Trump style platitudes.

.//////
Speaking in Mexico City, Merkel, who grew up in Communist East Germany behind the Iron Curtain, said that history showed that only when empires have got on well with their neighbours have migration pressures been resolved successfully.

"Obviously the main reason for people leaving must be addressed on site first, which means putting up walls and cutting oneself off will not solve the problem," said Merkel, who has come under political pressure at home for opening German borders to more than one million refugees since 2015.

"It's an issue you can study well in the history of China with the (Great) Wall of China, you can study it in the history of the Roman Empire. Essentially, only when great empires have managed to forge sensible relationships with their neighbours and to manage migration has it been a success," she added.

"I don't think that by simply improving the border facilities you can solve the problem," she told a panel discussion alongside Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto.
//////

And she is 100% right. E.g. Europe needs to solve the Libyan migration crisis... by working with Libyan warlords.

>>129577553
I can fuck your whore of a mother for a twopence.

Never reply to me again, you bag of puke.

If walls don't keep people out of stuff why dis people build walls around their land for 10,000 years?

>>129577719
>fix their country for them or be held hostage by its poor...

>Israel should not be allowed to have a wall or state

>>129577212

Because they aren't banned?

You can make a law banning anyone if you want. Nothing is stopping you.

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>>129576562

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>>129577144


lies, lies, lies

Plus, most of your migrants come from north africa to Italy

>>129576562
Shoot to kill.
People know how the establishment intends to utilize people (and terrorists) as their cannon fodder. You have seen some of the insane laws Americans can implement, You have seen that they are willing to rip kids out of class rooms.
Find another strategy like... actually helping to creat stability and prosperity in Africa instead to funding breeding programs in a desert/milarial swamp. All this shit is on You germany. Play the good guys. remeber you ARE Nazis that have to atone for your sins after all.

>>129576562
Yes, you need to do more then just have walls.
>They will come by boats, by planes, they will use fake marriages and student visas.
Send back the boats.
Planes are no problem, because everyone who comes by plane will be checked at the airport. No valid visa? Fuck off.
Don't allow marriages with people from certain countries (fake marriages also are not really a problem)
Don't give student visas or just make sure that when the visa runs out the person leaves the country, with force if necessary.

>They will dig tunnels and hide in trucks.
No visa/valid papers? Of you go.

Enforcing a border is not impossible, you just need to do it.

>>129576562
>forbid islam
>literally solve all of your brown people problems at once

>>129577972
>lies, lies, lies
>Plus, most of your migrants come from north africa to Italy

No, most of our migrants as of 2017 still come from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq - and those people do NOT come via Italy but through Bulgaria and Greece.... and then Hungary.

The numbers are available right here: http://www.bamf.de/SharedDocs/Anlagen/DE/Downloads/Infothek/Statistik/Asyl/aktuelle-zahlen-zu-asyl-mai-2017.html?nn=1694460

>>129576562
Walls aren't an absolute solution to a problem. They're a stronger defense against a problem.

>>129577929
Those are just the "registered" illegals. Once the wall was put in place in Hungary, illegals just came illegally again. We get 10k illegals coming via Hungary every month. Not as many as in 2015, but still a shitton of them.

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>>129576562
Fuck your kike chancellor and her South American tour. Every time she meets with our president we end taking up more rapefugees.

Now she's in Mexico defending the fucking illegals. Fucking corrupt globalist shill.

>>129577915
>You can make a law banning anyone if you want. Nothing is stopping you.

We actually have a lot harder legal immigration laws than you, Australia.

>>129578072
You want a third nuke?

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>simply talk about a wall
>immigration goes down

>>129577719
>Merkle is a globalist
>borders don't exist
>your "neighbours" are the entire world

>"And she is 100% right. E.g. Europe needs to solve the Libyan migration crisis"

And the syrian migration crisis, the afghanisan migration crisis, the namibian migration crisis, and all other migration crises on the world.

Fuck off and die you piece of shit cunt.

>>129578273
Fuck you you filthy monkey. Your religion is literally responsible for everything bad in the world right now.

>>129578097
>The numbers are available right here
Which part says that the migrants come though Hungary?

>>129576562
>Walls do not solve anything

Hans, you should know a thing or two about walls, except here burgers are not trying to keep their talented and skilled people in, they're trying to keep the scum and the criminals out. Big difference.

>>129576562
this is only the beginning.

soon we will be rolling back the constitutional amendments back to, and including the 13th

>>129576562
>Migrants will still come. They will come by boats, by planes, they will use fake marriages and student visas. They will dig tunnels and hide in trucks.
So? Just deport them again. I'm sure the wall will do it's job at reducing them.

>>129578184
>less people are coming because there was a wall put in place
>b-but walls don't work, silly

>>129578097

lol you still believe your government wow

I guess that explains why germans were all in with Hitler

And I'm not even talking about immigrants to germany only, but all Europe. They are mostly africans

>>129576856
>100% semite
Ftfy

>>129576562
I used to live in a border town and it definitely will work against the coyotes. I used to hunt deer and had to bring a sidearm because coyotes would drive their trucks through the mountains. Wall = no trucks

>>129578392
Kek you degenerate slit eyed rat. As if the opinion of the most sexually deviant society matters.

>>129578072
Faggot, that will not solve the inferior sandniggers and subhumans we have already in western countries, since we already converted them to the Middle eastern religion we converted to...

>>129577929
>It's starting to increase again
Orbán Death Squads when?

>>129578538
>lol you still believe your government wow
Even worse, his source said nothing about his claim that the migrants were coming through Hungary.

>>129578397
>Which part says that the migrants come though Hungary?
The UNHCR says so. We know who comes from Italy and Spain and Greece by sea. So, by elimination we know that all the rest comes through the land borders.

You can compare how many people we got in 2017 to the sea arrivals to Italy. Around 10-15% can be explained via sea arrivals to Italy. But as Syrians, Iraqis and Afghans do not come via Libya, they come via the Balkans. And we also know they do not come through Croatia and Slovenia. Only other way is through Hungary... unless they go way up through Romania to Poland... which we also know doesn't happen because we receive them from our Souther border.

http://data2.unhcr.org/en/situations/mediterranean

>>129578072
>Mexicans are Muslim
No

>>129576562
She's a stupid bitch then, any sensible nation takes protecting it's borders seriously, blood on her fucking hands.

>>129576788
That's actually true, but they're the great kind.

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>>129576562
They are not migrants they are ILLEGALS. They are not supposed to be there you shithead.
Wall? Did she forgot Berlin Wall? It worked pretty well,and when she was a young Commie she actually supposed it

>>129577212

0 are illegal though. Our problem is letting in 200,000 plus legal immigrants a year.

>>129576562
Didn't the Berlin Wall work pretty well for many years, or was that just a meme?

>>129578523
Are you stupid on purpose?
He said those are legally documented immigrants. The only thing that changed is their legal status

>>129576562
>stopping illegal immigration is hard, therefore it is not worth doing

It's that same can't do attitude that made your cuck ancestors remain serfs in Europe while mine immigrated west and tamed an entire continent, turning it into the most powerful nation in history.

Now run along, Klaus. Muhammad is having a sexual emergency and his dick ain't gonna suck itself

>>129578484
>just deport them again

Well, guess what doesn't happen despite the things Berlin has announced a couple months ago. Exactly, you got it. An increase in deportations. Germany is barely able to execute these deportations as leftist judges keep blocking everything all the time.

Our country is doomed.

>>129576562
>They will come by boats, by planes,
where will they hide, behind waves and clouds?

>>129576709
He only says "Sorry" to Israel.

Question to Germs. How fucked things are? Which German town should I visit to see ACTUAL FUCKING GERMANS and not shitskins?
Went to Berlin last month. Jesus fucking Christ on a stick it was bad... It's like you live in Apartheid or some shit

>>129578900
>where will they hide, behind waves and clouds?
No, behind American made asylum laws and visas and fake marriage licenses.

>>129578646
>The UNHCR says so.
So your source still doesn't back your claim. Nice one.

You are just making your shit up as you go everything you say is just conjecture. Do you have any source which said how many people come through Hungary? That is all I am asking.

And no, I was not asking about the number of people arriving by sea or the country of origin of the """refugees"""". I was asking about the number of people going through the Hungarian border.

>>129576562
I love the tunnel meme, the tens of thousands of tons of FUCKING wall sitting on top of your tunnel might make that problematic.

Only 2 things wrong with the Trump Wall:

1. It's not made of hot flying lead.

2. It doesn't extend up the east Commiefornia border.

>>129578922
>ACTUAL FUCKING GERMANS

Actual fucking German here.
You won't find any 'pure' German towns over here anymore. Everything has been infested with niggers, gypsies and shitskins.

>>129577476
that's after the walls got breached in 1870 tho

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>>129576997
fucking this.
Even if they don't "pay" for the wall, the savings from kicking them back over will pay for it.
>tfw Mexico is paying no matter how this goes down

>>129577719
Or, we could build a wall so those people go somewhere else.

>>129576562
>>by boat

No Germany, no they don't. Unlike you, we have what's called a "coast guard"

>>129576562

walls work for gated communities by the rich. guns work for the security guards of those same rich. yet the common man can neither have walls nor guns which the rich use their wealth to provide for themselves. why is that? if they do not work, why do rich elites insist on using them for themselves?

>>129577255
Mr. Francis, TEAR. DOWN. THIS. WALL.

>>129576562
>Coast guard
>TSA
>INS
>Ground penetrating radar
>Border patrol/dogs

Verdammt du blöde Sau, gerade nen Deutsche muss ja doch wissen wie effektiv nen Mauer sein kann

So what, you should just accept people breaking the law and do nothing? Great fucking solution, mutti. I'll take advice from her regarding immigration when hell freezes over.

>>129578677

Well they do like beheadings....

>>129579073
even the rich areas?

>>129577476
Theu have to go through security first. Hmmm...

>>129578590
No your societies opinion doesn't matter kys and at least one other muzzie,
Run along! Chop chop!

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>>129578590

>said the gay porn leader in the world

>>129576562
>They will come by boat
More effort then crossing an unwalled border, easier to track and stop too
>They will come by plane
No because you still need some form of identification to fly, unless they will start sending airbusses out to pick people up
>They will use fake marriages
Not viable for the vast majority of them because not a lot of people willing to provide
>They will dig tunnels
Dangerous tunnels which often collapse on themselves and cannot possibly hope to support the same amount of border crossings prewall
>Hide in trucks
Which is why there will be checkpoints at the holes in the wall that allow traffic
>Student visa
Sure that means youre entering legally

So sorry Kraut but your logic is flawed, its also mostly about discouraging the vast majority, Stopping everyone is impossible, stopping 90%? Very reachable (and more desirable then the current situation)

>>129578097
>No one actually counts them
>More than half of the migrants are unregistered / unaccounted for
>We do not even know where 60+% of all migrants that (may have) crossed out borders are now

HURR HERE ARE THE NUMBERS

top kek

>>129577476
>anyone can go inside the vatican.
Yes exactly. After an Airport like security check...

>>129576562
go to hell fat childless nigger kike

>>129576562
She is right. Fellating migrant cock is the only way germans should react to this invasion

>>129579102

This.

We have like 5 times more coast and stopped the boats.

Having land borders is pretty gay anyway, it's like having the balls touch.

>>129577719
but the Great Wall worked? They also work in rich parts of town.

>>129576562

I hope she told Israel

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>>129576562
>illegal immagration already down something like 76%
It's good to win so much.

>>129577071
You can't marry in Israel if you're not a Jew.

>>129576562

Who is buying these bums plane tickets?

>>129576562
Then why did Germans bother tearing down the Berlin wall

>>129577144

Thank you for your sourceless assertion, Ahmed.

>>129577719
gaddafi's son was recently magically released. maybe the US and EU will back him

GERMANY DO YOU WANT ROUND 3 MOTHERFUCKERS. YOUR CHEAPNESS, SUICIDAL BEHAVIOR, DENBTS LIES AND NOW SMUG SHIT TALKING CUTTING IT CLOSE. YOU'RE OFFICIALLY ON NOTICE KRAUTS THIS TIME IT WILL BE DRESDEN BUT ALL OVER YOUR SHITHOLE NEVER WON A WAR COUNTRY

>>129580074
go larp somewhere else faggot

>>129578473

>we

Plz kidnap me and train me master russian hacker

>>129579656
The Berlin wall was heavily protected plus had a bad rep/had no more use.

>>129580178

Tell your sister to suck my dick. Ill give her a penny. Hows the eu membership going, cuck?

>>129578930
>asylum laws
people have a right to asylum in the nearest safe country, not wherever there are more gibs
were the hell could legit refugees come from, Kamchatka? are there even any people living there?

>>129576562
>>129576709
>>129576788
>>129576863

Hurr, hurr there will be criminals anyway. why bother policing, let's just open all prisons and disband police.

>>129576562
The Hungarian fence is enough to stop the migrants. The fuck are you on about kraut?

>>129576562
Walls seem to work fine for izrayle

>>129580747
>people have a right to asylum in the nearest safe country, not wherever there are more gibs
They have the right to a proceeding. And America has the same problems with deportations as the EU. If Mexico doesn't take non-Mexicans back, America is fucked and needs to keep em, because Nicaragua and Bolivia etc. do not take them back... or they burned their ID papers, so there is no way to ascertain who they are.

>>129579531
>You can't marry in Israel if you're not a Jew.
Actually, you can. But you need to be a non-Jew to marry a non-Jew. Jews cannot marry non-Jews.

>>129579102
>No Germany, no they don't. Unlike you, we have what's called a "coast guard"
Remember Cuba? They came, your coast guard rescued them and brought them to Florida... where they received asylum.

>>129578996
>So your source still doesn't back your claim.
Actually it does. Just because you did not bother to read my source, doesn't mean it is incorrect.

>>129581296
>http://data2.unhcr.org/en/situations/mediterranean
>Physical barriers and restrictive policies in Hungary have resulted in effectively denying access to territory and asylum for those in need of international protection. 10 Apr 2017

>>129581296
>Actually it does.
Where THE FUCK DOES IT LIST ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING INTO HUNGARY?
It simply doesnt, because it would show that the numbers were dramatically reduced.
Your claim and your sources don't match up.

Here are the sources you are looking for
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_border_barrier
Which points to the here: http://www.police.hu/hirek-es-informaciok/hatarinfo/elfogott-migransok-szama-lekerdezes?honap%5Bvalue%5D%5Byear%5D=2015&honap%5Bvalue%5D%5Bmonth%5D=11

Can you see the effect the Hungarian border had? This official data from the Hungarian government, you are simply wrong.
All data is showing that the wall is working EXTREMELY well and yo have yet to provide anything that suggest otherwise.

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>>129577553
This is a wizard's construct

Sure they don't work. Go ask China.

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>>129576562
Mind your own fucking business, kraut

I'm sick of being inundated with this cocksucking insidious narrative about 'muh russians' stealing and influence our election, having connections to our politicians and influencing decisions. When all this overt bullshit coming out of western Europe is so in-your-face about how they intend to influence America's politics. Seems like half of western Europe's leaders literally did a campaign in support of Hillary Clinton.

The wall is going up you fucking internationalist cunt. Why would Merkel give one iota of a shit about America putting a wall up in front of Mexico, unless she is a compromised globalist kike witch?

>>129576562
>>129581455

>>129576562
Well it was effective in your countr for 40 years.

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>>129576562
Yeah fuck walls, did nothing for china, Vatican City or Germany eh? Not even stores with the name wall can get ahead.
>pic related

>>129576562
Merkle is a going to take Europe over through the EU, achieve past 2 wars goals without a shot fired, amassing a army in Germany under the guise of EU happenings, you deutchlanders are to complacent to disagree, when will you get rid of the science leader whom agrees there are 32 genders, are the Americans your new Jews?

>>129578791
>legally documented migrants
>Illegal immigrants

German engineering

>>129580909
policing is a terrible way to lower crime

look at drug use in america

crime is stopped through reconciliation and remedying the reasons people have for committing crime

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>>129576562
We know it, but before going to shoot this invaders.
It's important that all think we've tried it humanly.
> Because of the second world war and so

>>129576709
Literally everyone around them wants to kill them. When's the last time Mexico invaded us or even threatened us?

>>129576562
Walls don't solve the nigger/sandnigger problem, guns do.

>>129577161
>le Soros conspiracy meme
HAHAHA EPICCC XDDD!!!!!!

>>129577831
>hurrr why do I have to play nice with the neighbors, mom!!! I hate the neighbors!!

>>129576562
>The Trump wall will be completely ineffective.

Yes it will. That's why you should make him build it. Then we can all have a laugh.

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>>129579428
**triggered**

You only wish your country touched balls with Amerca!

>>129576562
FFS, Merkel, calm down, you are like a witch bragging your winged money rapists can reach anywhere.
FLY MY PRETTIES...

ok fine we will nuke them instead.
see if that one works

>>129576562
Says the woman who lived in a country where a wall worked almost flawlessly and separating populations.

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>>129576562
How many fucking castles are in Germany? I suppose those were just vanity projects like The Great Wall of Trump

>>129577719
>study it in the history of the Roman Empire
>kill the Etruscans
>Etruscans are never a problem again
>treat the Gauls sensibly and integrate them into society as mercenaries
>Empire collapses and all the known world is sacked by Visigoths, Vandals and Gauls
really makes you think

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>>129576562
I'd guess German's keep their doors unlocked and keys in the ignition.

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>>129586045
Nicely done.

Pic related really disturbs me, because the woman is slightly chubby.

>>129576562

Worry about your own migrant crisis Hitler Jr. and don't waste your time worrying about America. If we want your German bigger failure opinion we will order your whore leader to speak like the dog she is. You insignificant worthless province of America retard.

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>>129576562
You know you get most of your heat loss through your windows and you can never seal up all the cracks, so might as well take the doors off too. Otherwise you're racist

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>>129586477
She's basically the NEET that blames all their failures on their parents.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MEXICAN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

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>>129586502
>Infiltration
What is that?

>>129586540

She is the worst leader in German history and that's saying a lot. Germans are the dumbest people on the planet.

>>129576562
>walls literally do not solve anything
She's right though, we need a final solution of some kind.

>>129585096

>crime is stopped through reconciliation and remedying the reasons people have for committing crime

I've got a half dozen felonies can I move in with you for like a week so you can remedy me. I promise I'm not trying to rape your wife and steal everything from you. I'm black as night and this country thinks murder is a crime.

>>129576562
>you will get raped anyway so why resist or press charges afterwards?

Thanks Merkel, I will now use that excuse.

>I wont pay you anyway so why tell me to pay debts?

>>129577212
Those Asians are often paying for 100K+ degrees. Which is more than most non-drug dealing Mexicunts even have in savings.

They don't bludge or join gangs. Unlike the Sudanese nignogs Melbourne imported 5 years ago.

>>129576562
>The Trump wall will be completely ineffective.
Stop drinking the koolaid!

>>129586045
Yeah except they had to shoot people crossing the wall and had a massive police service.

>>129577212
And to top it off most Asian males who don't succeed or "fail at life" tend to commit suicide, the poor bastards.

>>129586138
The Gauls in many areas were outright slaughtered. The Roman conquest of Gaul may have killed a million people.

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>>129576562
>walls literally do not solve anything

Walls LITERALLY do not solve anything - this is why OP lives like pic related

Komm mal runter von deinem naiven Film oder häng dich auf.

>>129576562
>hur dur why make murder illegal? people will still kill each other. lets make murder legal

you homo thats how you sound

>>129586756
nope.

im not a professional. you should see a professional

>>129578247
Are you for fucking real or is every German this good at self deprecation

>>129576562
If walls do nothing then why are there so many white South Africans living in gated communities right now?

>>129587154
>And to top it off most Asian males who don't succeed or "fail at life" tend to commit suicide, the poor bastards.

the same holds true for our Middle Eastern Asians.

>>129586640
Are you fucking stupid?

>>129576562
The wall will help free up time to shore up other weak points. Barriers work! Its called a barrier for a reason.

>>129586914
Why don't you call your country Gookstralia then?

>>129576562
Merkel is a self defeatist bag of bones, put her into the ground and take over Germany, remove all the problem minorities, revamp immigration

>>129587294
Try living in South Africa. You'll see why. US crime is a cakewalk in comparison.

>>129578327
whats the problem? europe can be a global arbiter

>>129576562
>Bulletproof vests don't work guys, they can still shoot you in the limbs or face
>Don't even wear a vest, what do you want to waste money?
This is what you sound like.

>>129577719
No, build the fucking wall, stop the income of american money and american guns into Mexico, thats 80% of cartel's power right there.

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>>129577391

Fucking Trudeau and that braindead smile.

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>>129577539

"Hi, howdy folks! You need a hand illegally crossing into Canada?"

>>129576562
Except divide your fucking country for half a century, you fucking autistic kraut.

>>129576562
>They will come by boats
Good thing we have a Coast Guard
>by planes
And they'll be deported if they overstay their welcome
>they will use fake marriages
Again well deport them
>student visas.
Well deport them once they graduate
>they will dig tunnels
And we will collapse those tunnels wherever we find them
>and hide in trucks.
You realize we check trucks coming over the border right?
If you're gonna b8, try not to be a complete retard about it, Achmed

>>129576562
the wall in east germany worked pretty well

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>>129576562
The irony of a former East German Stasi officer mocking the effectiveness of walls is delicious.

>>129588185
>>They will come by boats
>Good thing we have a Coast Guard
Which has done nothing but "rescue" them in case of Cubans.

>>by planes
>And they'll be deported if they overstay their welcome
Did not happen for 40yrs, why should it start now?

>>they will use fake marriages
>Again well deport them
Never happened, why should this happen now? Also, what are anchor babies?

>>student visas.
>Well deport them once they graduate
Only that you are not deporting any students. They end up getting shitty jobs and stay.

>>they will dig tunnels
>And we will collapse those tunnels wherever we find them
Those tunnels already exist. The cartels use them to smuggle drugs. Often they have existed for many years. If one is found, they did another one. Israel couldn't find all Gaza tunnels into Israel, and Gaza is like 20km wide.

>>and hide in trucks.
>You realize we check trucks coming over the border right?
Yes, and still lots of illegals and drugs come via fake IDs etc. via buses and trucks.

>If you're gonna b8, try not to be a complete retard about it, Achmed
Why are Americans not facing reality? 15 million illegals in your country speak volumes.

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>>129585712
When your neighbor are terrible people then you shouldn't have to play with them.

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>>129576562
Walls don't work...
>university safe spaces
>prayer rooms
>protesters arnchained together on the road
Walls don't work you say???
REEEEALLY?

>>129576562
If Trump will ever build the wall...

>>129587300

Suck more Merkel dick faggot.

>>129576788
It's funny you know
I've been reversing every sentence that mentions social constructs
>race is a social construct
Society is a racial construct
>curtsy and handshakes are a social construct
Society is a communication's construct

>borders are a social construct
Society is a bordered construct

>>129588631
And all of that can be changed if the government wishes to do so.
There is no magical force which prevents the German government from sending back people who overstayed their visas.
There is no magical force which causes the government to accept people coming by boat.

Just like a wall can be build if the government wants to build a wall.

You are right, when you say that a wall is not enough, BUT that doesn't mean that it is impossible to control a border.

>>129576562
fucking old commie hag, we should wiretap this bitches phone again like Obama did.

nasty dried up old cunt with no children, a failed woman and a failed leader

>>129576562
>America solves mexicos problems with military
FUCKIGN AMERICAS STOP POLICING THE WORLD
>America builds wall to protect ourselves from the problems of mexico while they solve it themselves
FUUCKING AMERICANS HATE AND IGNORE MEXICO

no win situation. Cheaper to build wall.

>>129576562
>thousands of boarder crossings suddenly hindered
>somehow completely ineffective

I'm absolutely convinced the pushback is due to libtards being upset knowing deep down inside that it would actually have a positive narrative crushing effect on their reality.

>>129577144
>Krautcuck has to defend Momma Merkel and speak lies from his ass

sad!!

>>129585284

Mexicans are invading right now. And they cost this country a lot more than a wall would.

Now shut the fuck up, femanon.

>>129576562
>hopelessness is the only answer
Your ancestors are weeping

>>129587746
This. Mexico fuels our drug problem, we fuel their corruption problem. Both result in violence/crime. Build the wall, regulate trade/migration more effectively, and both countries will be better for it.

>>129576562
Do we stop vaccinations because they don't prevent disease 100% of the time?

>>129577719
>you can study it in the history of the Roman Empire
Didn't the romans have a policy with their border allies of letting them genocide any tribes that wandered too close to their lands?

A wall is more of a statement than anything, of course people are coming here illegally, parts of our border are wide open. What does that say about our efforts on illegal immigration?

>>129576562
Why does your leader exist?

>>129576562
>>129576709
FPBP.

Also, Solar panels, bitch. USA will go from Coal-reliant to the greenest country in 4 years after its completion.

>>129576562
Trumps wall is only the beginning to a working solution, kraut.

Wall and military patrol stems the inflows. Strict business requirements to employ only citizens (if you're caught employing illegals, your business is confiscated). Overstay your visa? Required deportation home.

OP is obviously a defeatist, which is why you lost all the world wars. Persistance and the a strict approach will stop this free for all.

Now, lets talk about why the global kabal wants mass immigration. It's the bankers who want cheap labor. They get rich and they don't care that the genetic pool is tainted with third world shit.

I would rather live in a pure white society where my children breed with other whites and we all live in poverty than slowly dilute my race and become another third world cou try so some bankers can make a profit

>>129577139

No dude, just no. Having a harsh stance even only rhetorically works wonders. Since Trump started spouting off about his wall migration from Mexico dropped significantly and the wall doesn't even exist. Now compare that to Mufti's "alles wilkommen" and the effect it had.

>>129579220
>Theu have to go through security first.
no you fucking don't m8. Leave your house more faggot.

>>129579519
>illegal immagration already down something like 76%
yeah people generally migrate to places with a future.

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>>129581086
>a fence can stop people on airplanes

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>>129576562
That is the dumbest thinking. Of course a wall works. Just like locking your frontdoor works. Just like locking your car works. Just like building a fence around your yard works. Just like building a wall around a prison works.
Despite that every example I just mentioned you have people overcoming those barriers they still work and only dishonest people claims otherwise.

>>129590785
>Being able to enter a country without a valid passport/visa through an airport.

Have you ever taken a plane to another country dude?

>>129578312
It's almost taking a hard stance on something works!

>>129576856
and falling.

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>>129590816
Saying a wall won't work is only because Merkel is an old barren hag who wishes to destroy her country because young german men want nothing to do with her, so she sells out her heritage and her country to get some attention from foreign men.

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>>129590816
How can people be so dumb that they claim a wall won't work? They worked for thousands of years and we still use them today in everyday life. People cannot be that dumb, they are dishonest.

>>129576562
Fuck this fishy cunt. She needs to get raped, murdered and dismembered by a white male

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>>129590816
So a dumb barren woman, who can't construct, maintain or invent civilization, says a wall does not work. This is the dumbest discussion ever. Instead of people just being honest about their desires, they make stupid arguments.

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>>129581910
>I'm sick of being inundated with this cocksucking insidious narrative about 'muh russians' stealing and influence our election
lol you're going to hear about how you where bamboozled by Russian active measures for the rest of your life m8. You'll never not be an unwitting shill :)
>Seems like half of western Europe's leaders literally did a campaign in support of Hillary Clinton.
The other option was Donald Trump bruh. He's a belligerent, delusional, and functionally illiterate. He just says empty things that pander to insecure people. You don't need to be politically biased to know a self-defeating narcissist when you see one.
>The wall is going up you fucking internationalist cunt.
kek when? Not in this years budget. Not going to be in the budget next year for the mid term. Trump wont be president after that.
>Why would Merkel give one iota of a shit about America putting a wall up in front of Mexico
Because when America makes economic decisions Germany ends up eating shit. America blows up the middle east and Germany ends up dealing with resulting refugee crisis. America blows up the housing market and Germany ends up keeping all of Europe afloat.

Things don't exist in a vacuum you fucking tribalist nigger. Stay in school.

>>129590900
There is one of those dogs down the block, I fucking hate her so much. they're fucking useless.

>>129576562
1. Source
2. This whore recently admitted that if it wasn't for the border fence in the Balkan nations, rapefugees would still stream into Germany in the hundreds of thousands.

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>>129591022
>>129591162
>>129591378
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2016/01/08/men-invade-women-invite/
"strutting military-age youths with smartphones, giving Germany’s surrender a weird sexual vibe that nobody yet has explained satisfactorily even in retrospect.

Is it really that hard to explain?

The sexual appeal of strutting military age young men would be to whom? To women, both young and old. If the appeal is sexual it can’t be to anyone else. It is to women.

Does that mean an invasion of these Muslims is appealing to women? The smart answer seems to be No. But if the sexual appeal is not to women, then there is no sexual appeal, but we know and we feel there is a sexual appeal. Therefore the correct answer has to be YES. And the smart answer has to be wrong.

The sexy men are invading because the women want it.

And it’s stupid but it’s not false.

When men make a mistake, they invade somewhere they should not have–due to male desires blinding their reason.

When women make a mistake, they invite someone they should not have–due to female desires blinding their reason.

The reason we have not yet seen an explanation is that we assume politics are based on male desires. And second, women do not understand their own desires, so they would be less able to articulate this than I am. What woman would say, “I know it is stupid, but I need to see if these sexy, strong foreigners might make better lovers and rulers.”

But that’s the answer."

http://archive.is/dBehg

>>129587280
But you have a vagina. Your vagina will save him.

My God, do you even know how stupid you sound saying policing doesn't lower crime rates? Look at NYC, crime was dealt with brutally and it has one of the lowest crime rates of multicultural cities.

Heavy handed policing works.

What you are suggesting is that we molly coddle criminals. As if, all we need to do is give the blood thirsty murdering, rapist a hug and everything will be fine.

The bottom line is that you and people like you do nothing to fight crime but instead enable criminals.

>>129590682
Then why do people migrate to Sweden?

I thought the Hungary wall was working pretty good for them.

>>129585284

Right now. Plan of San Diego 2.0.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKG76HF24_k

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>>129576562
Who needs to jump walls when you can cuck Trudeau?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-28/canada-lifts-mexico-visa-requirement-in-return-for-beef-access

>>129592152
Because statistically the nordic model countries are literally the best countries in the world. Because they're heavily invested in their future.

Why do you think you're fed so much Russian and corporatist propaganda about Sweden memes? They're a mixed market socialist economy and their government isn't ruined by agency capture. They're threatening to the people that set your messaging strategy, hence why you're impotently trying to pivot to talking about them.

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>>129587998

You guys should let them fend for themselves and let nature take it's toll.
Only the strong who survive the winter are allowed it.
That creates a stronger and more robust migrant population.

except for Israel and in Northern Ireland?

And Mexicos southern border?

except those?

>>129577476
Most of the vatican is closed off to the pu blic.

>>129588716
This. If the neighbours are constantly sneaking into your garden, stealing your things, leaving poisoned meat for your pets and coming in to hit your kids, you'd quickly find ways to discourage them from continuing to be shitty neighbours, even if it's only a good fence.

>>129576562
Bullets would be more effective.

Your Atlantikwall was pretty based.
You should build a new one this time in the Mediterranean.

>>129577719
So youre saying to fix mexico for mexico. Yeah fuck that nigger, America First.

>>129576863
So they erected a fence in 1 day?
wew lad

Notice that they will mock and mock the wall, talk about how ineffective it will be, but they will never stop protesting it or ripping their hair out over its existence. Makes you think.

>>129578590
You dumb fucks shag your own sisters and first cousins, I wouldn't be telling Japan they're degenerates when you're notorious for inbreeding.

Nope

The US has a problem with illegal immigration from Mexico because of the ease of walking from one place to another. Humans are lazy... especially Mexicans... so if you take away the easiest route to something, most of them will not bother.

>>129592800
Sweden's standard of living is decreasing each year not increasing

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>>129593061
Israel and Northern Ireland's borders aren't 2000 miles long m8. No part of Northern Ireland's border is an uninhabitable river basin that would require tens of billions of dollars in infrastructure development and be an ecological disaster.

Cost benefit bruh. On a long enough timeline the wall will cost hundreds of billions of dollars. It would have a negligible effect on preventing illegal immigration BECAUSE ALMOST ALL FUCKING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FLY OR DRIVE THROUGH THE BORDER INTO THE COUNTRY YOU FUCKING MUSHED MIND DIPSHIT.

>>129576562
Germany be like, "if you have a wall how you flood your nation with millions of immigrants?! this makes no sense!"

>>129593772
lol nordic countries consistently account for 4 of the top 5 spots in the world happiness index. They're consistently top of the pops in education and employment and literally every measurable standard of success.

I'd say don't let your memes be dreams but the Sweden meme is literally propaganda designed to trigger knownothing Americans to be scared of the countries that rejected corporatism.

>OH WOW IF YOU BUILD A WALL THERE'LL STILL BE A FEW HUNDRED ALIENS CROSSING THE BORDERS, IT'S NOT ZERO IMMIGRATION LOL BETTER NOT DO ANYTHING AND LET A MILLION OF THEM IN THAT'S THE SMART THING TO DO

>>129576788
found the faggit

>>129593774
>hundreds of billions of dollars spent on wall
>paid to American workers
>who spend it to buy goods and services
>increasing aggregate demand
>driving increased employment to meet demand
>labor market loses slack (thanks for doing your part ICE)
>wages increase
>economy thrives
tell me about that cost/benefit again bruh.

70% decrease in illegal immigration from Mexico and the physical wall still hasn't been built yet.
It's about who's behind the wall, not what's on the wall, kraut.

>>129593899
checked
also underrated

The most effective wall?

Cutt off the gibs

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>>129578590
> the most sexually deviant society matters
Bant from one of the most sexually deviant Muslim-majority county in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMp2wm0VMUs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvehhXaFh8U

>>129594810
>believing that the government can improve the economy by spending. kys fgt.

>>129576562
Berlin wall seemed to work?

>>129594810
>tell me about that cost/benefit again bruh.
You could spend he same amount on actually fixing America's infrastructure, and we'd have decent bridges, plus the benefits you outline.

>>129595121
>Cutt off the gibs
Bill Clinton and the Dems did that back in the 90's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supplemental_Nutrition_Assistance_Program

>>129576562
>Make it as easy as possible for people to migrate to your country from the third world
>Make no attempt to stop the flow of migrants coming in
>SEE? THERE'S NOTHING ANYBODY CAN DO TO STOP IT
You Krauts used to be great, but now you're just embarrassing.

>>129595661
>building a border wall isn't infrastructure
>can't build a road in Tennessee and a wall in Texas at the same time
porque no los dos nigger?

>>129595661
A wall would help fix america's infrastructure because illegal immigrants damage it. Don't pretend illegals are good for any country.

>>129576562
Walls are working fine for izrayle

>>129576856
Don't forget the Mizrahim etc., i.e. arab "jews". I love Israel - it's Ashkenazi genocide just look at the intermarriage rates. And then look at the intermarriage rates of Ashkenazi in the West. The kikes are getting goyed.

>>129578191
She doesn't have children and so she's trying to save the world and thus ending up saving no one and her own people are hurting the most.

You should never let childless women anywhere near power.

>>129594810
>hundreds of billions of dollars spent on wall
also all the negative externality of the effect on the environment that isn't really calculable yet. The border runs along a river, which has mostly migrated south since the lines where drawn. Building a wall along the border through the fucking desert would basically kill all the animals north of the wall.
>paid to American workers
eh. It'd mostly be paid to steel and concrete companies, likely Chinese. It'd also be heavily paid to all the lawyers dealing with all the eminent domain lawsuits against Texans.

As for your attempt to demo that you've read the wiki page on economics, maybe dial it down. Your only argument to justify the expense of the wall is the economic stimulus of dumping billions into the construction industry to work on a project that only has negative long term economic effects on the Americans that live near it. Sure there would be a temporary stimulus from all the money being dumped into the area. But unlike efficient infrastructure spending, the end result doesn't actually do anything for Americans. We could spend 100 billion on wind and solar and roads and secure the country's relevance over the next century. Or we could spend it on a wall to try and stop all the illegal immigrants that keep flying into the country. Worlds our oyster I guess.

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>>129576562
That little wall in Berlin sure didn't do shit for 30 years...how she forgets history of her own country so easily.

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>>129596036
>A wall would help fix america's infrastructure because illegal immigrants damage it.
you don't know a whole lot about much huh m8?

>>129597321
>illegal immigrants help a country's infrastructure
I can smell the facebook coming from this post, but i'll bite
Go ahead and explain how illegal immigrants help a country.

>>129597167
>That little wall in Berlin sure didn't do shit for 30 years..
Yeah it fucked up Germany.

>>129579183
Lol they do it in the name of money, not some faggy god.

>>129576562
By your logic se don't need police.

>>129585303
I support the ex-nazi

>why did Hadrian build that dumb wall lol it's not like it made a difference lol

>>129576562
no won a defensive war by not advancing.

>locate root of problem
>kill problem, the children of the problem and the grandparents of said problem.
>Kill everything around said problem innocent or not.

problem solved and wont come back.

America has capitulated, I stand right calling Trump and america a looser nation.

A looser of president for a looser nation.

>>129597820
>did the wall safe the chinks from the fins?

nope

>rapingfinschinks.gif

>>129576856
and in 1900 it was 90% arab

israeli history begins before 1949

>>129576562

>why build jails, crime will always exist

Really colored my twisters...

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>>129576562
Yes. She is right. The walls wont stop immigrants completely. But its not about stopping them completely. The border is pretty pathetic as it stands now. Dont get me wrong the majority of it is heavily guarded. But its a 670 mile long border. Do you really think they can cover it all? Some areas you pretty much can slip through no problem. The rest of the problems can slowly be solved over time with the the proper measures taken.

>>129578735
Don't really understand. How the fuck emigrate 200k persons to your country? All of them have a memedegree at least?

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>>129597462
>I can smell the facebook coming from this post
always need your labeling fallacies huh. Depersonalization and cognitive dissonance are neat concepts.
> but i'll bite
kys dipshit. Knowing stuff isn't a fucking trick. You're not being bamboozled. You're just stupid.
>Go ahead and explain how illegal immigrants help a country.
Go ahead and explain how a wall in a desert fixes America's corroding infastructure. Go ahead and explain how exactly illegal immigrants "damage" infrastructure differently than everyone else and the ravages of time.

As for "how illegal immigrants help a country." They work for cheaper to do shit that nobody wants to do. Cheap labor is lower cost of living is good for economic growth.

But more the point is that you need to consider the cost benefit. The negative economic externalities from building the wall would do considerably more harm than the economic benefits that it would provide. Almost all illegal immigration into the country doesn't involve illegally crossing the southern border. It'd be a $100 billion billboard.

>>129598311
They all have degrees from GOAT university in hindustan or another meme Uni from china.

>>129598474
>that entire argument
Tell it to israel spic.
>They work for cheaper to do shit nobody wants to do
Do you know how many legal citizens in the US are unemployed? Take that amount into consideration before you say that illegally exporting unskilled drug dealers and rapists into a country will do it good.

"DUH THEY'RE NOT RAPISTS OR DRUG DEALERS" Then how about you fucking come legally, paco?

>>129576562
reminder that she and her party will get atleast 40% in the upcoming election

>>129598311
>being astounded at 200k

Leaf land takes in upwards of 350k annually, not counting rapefugees. How does this make sense when unemployment is at a rough 7%? It fucking doesnt. But dude weed can proclaim how fucking progressive we are for it despite the fact that it is literally killing us economically. I should say though this didnt start with him, we've been doing it for far longer than he's been relevant and the rate is no longer sustainable since they've been taking in 3rd worlders that breed entire litters of kids. Those kids will eventually have to get jobs and since its fucking Canada where everything is taxed into oblivion, jobs wont be created at a fast enough rate. So either these 3rd worlders are unable to find employment or people native to this country wont be able to. Either way, we're in for a crash in the not so distant future, but even when we do collapse this problem wont be addressed since for some fucking reason its probably considered too controversial

>>129576562
germany defended its boarder with lethal force not that long ago and they shot a car gull of refugees that wouldnt stop

you cant do such things without perimeter control aka a wall. germany has a wall. a few countries in europe have a wall. its all post refugee crisis to boot

>>129599055
>that entire argument
>I'm to stupid to articulate a response lel
you're cute.
>Tell it to israel spic.
Tell what to Israel? Are you being willingly dense? Like as a goof? Or is this you making an effort?
>Do you know how many legal citizens in the US are unemployed?
Yeah.
>Take that amount into consideration before you say that illegally exporting unskilled drug dealers and rapists into a country will do it good.
I did. You're not making an argument. Nobody is preventing Americans from picking fruit for $3 an hour. And illegal immigrants are statistically less likely to commit crimes, what with not wanting to be deported and stuff. But you don't actually give a shit about reality do you? You're just a meme parrot.
>Then how about you fucking come legally, paco?
Who the fuck you talking to m8? Can you focus on one strawman for longer than a fucking sentence?

why do you suppose you're the way that you are? Why are you so upset? Why are you so content with being so dumb and desperate?

>>129576562
Merkel hitting a wall at high speed would solve a lot of things actually.

She looks like she already did once or twice before.

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>>129595386
Holy shit, I shouldn't have laughed. What the fuck. This is the type of weird shit I'd expect from a satirical Borat-esque comedy film.

Fuck that fat old cow

>>129576562

It worked pretty damn well in Berlin you daft cunt.

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>>129600507
>It worked pretty damn well in Berlin you daft cunt.
Yeah it did a great job of economically depressing one side and crippling the other. It was a wonderful way to keep Germany neutered after they got all uppity.

Lets do that here!

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>>129576562
If they literally don't solve anything then why are you so opposed to the building of one?

>>129600878
>If they literally don't solve anything then why are you so opposed to the building of one?
A: Are you pretending to be retarded as a joke?
B: Not only can something "not solve anything" but it can also "create a lot of problems while not solving anything."

>>129577212
The other guys are right. Most of the Asian guys are dorks who are hard working and smart. White girls generally don't mix with them for what it's worth, and they contribute more than other migrants - that is, they do shit instead of rioting and raping everyone.

You're not wrong that there are quite a few Asians in the big cities. That I won't deny. Australia isn't perfect, but the current state of Germany is so hilariously bad that insulting us is asinine. What a meme country you are.

>>129601246
Hungary is having success.
Need a wall/fence to enforce border control.
Also, fuck off, shill

>>129576562
then why did you bother taking down the berlin wall?

She supported the wall in Eastern Germany when she was a communist politician.

>>129601517
>Hungary is having success.
Hungary doesn't have a 2000 mile long border, most of which runs along a river in the middle of the desert.
>Need a wall/fence to enforce border control.
Big difference between a wall and a fence. And the fact that as it is the only place there isn't fencing is where it's hundreds of miles of inhospitable fucking desert that accounts for a fraction of a fraction of the illegal immigrants in the country.
>Also, fuck off, shill
>everyone that points out how retarded my memes are must be being paid.

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>>129585284
>Literally everyone around them wants to kill them.

Gee, I wonder why.

>>129577719
>Obviously the main reason for people leaving must be addressed on site first, which means putting up walls and cutting oneself off will not solve the problem
She's talking to Mexico as if they are building the wall? Is the fucking high?

>>129598474
>They work for cheaper to do shit that nobody wants to do
They work at slave wages, artificially retarding the value of low skill work and making it more difficult for people who can only do that to make a living.

>Cheap labor is lower cost of living is good for economic growth
Tell that to the landlords charging $900 a month for a rat-infested slum, knowing they'll get it because three Mexican families will share two bedrooms.

>The negative economic externalities from building the wall would do considerably more harm than the economic benefits that it would provide
How so?

>Almost all illegal immigration into the country doesn't involve illegally crossing the southern border. It'd be a $100 billion billboard
Citation needed, and better a $100b billboard than a $100b annual scourge. Fuck you, Paco, we're getting the wall and we're punting you ugly midgets over it.

>>129600842
The east was economically retarded because they were left wing like you you ignorant faggot. Go and live in Mexico if you don't see a problem with Mexicans moving to America

merckel should be dismembered in public for her crimes

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>>129596246
>I love Israel

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>>129576562
Merkel is a globalist WHORE. Why doesn't she say anything about the wall on Mexico's Southern Border?

>>129585284

Holy shit someone doesnt know history. Mexico has historically been a foe of the united states. Mexican american war? Zimmerman telegraph? Funnelling spies into the US?

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>>129576788
A country without borders is like a body without skin.

were do people get this idea that not 100% that walls don't work. walls work quite well. why we still build them.

>>129576562
>She is right, you know, walls literally do not solve anything
A passive wall sure can't stop much, but a deadly wall will stop migrants dead in their track, literally speaking.

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>>129576562

A bridge is just a wall going sideways.

>>129576562
Walls are working for izrail
and the rest of the world was forced to pay for them

If the wall is so useless then why are Paco Tacos so against it?

>>129576562
how the fuck don't walls solve a thing, they were solving shit for thousands of years. Didn't you fuckers have a nice wall in Berlin?

>>129579073
What about Bavaria? Is Bavaria srill a thing?

>>129576562
Did she give any arguments tho?

>>129606077
That's the Jewfag border

>>129593443
No, we closed the border one day,- something that couldn't be done without the fence.

>>129576856
K , Achmed