Why Aren’t Millennials Getting Married?

>>129567534
because women are shit now

>>129567534
I'm a 27 year old intern. I barely make rent. How am I supposed to afford to eat at Applebees?

>media doing everything it can to not name the fucking boomers

Oh no, oh dear, what a terrible mystery, why aren't (insert age group) not doing (insert action totally fucking ruined by boomers)

>>129567534
Because that's how shit is supposed to work Men crave a good job so they can take care of a good woman. Problem is, is jobs are scarce because of baby-boomer faggots. So men are reduced to playing vidya, and women become literal whores out sucking dick and getting cum on their faces. They hit 30 years old, they don't have kids or a family so either they write pro-feminist articles shaming men even further into a depressive pit, or they kill themselves.

Men and women are both fucking depressed. Until they both realize this and stop shaming each other, society is lost.

I'm scared of marrying a whore and having my future son dress in drag at his school counselor's behest.

>>129567534
because i might want to uncuck my country in a few years time

>>129567534
Shit like this shows that our opponents are not malicious geniuses, but malicious morons.

>purposefully destroy this way of life because "lol, the family unit has only been one of the most important pillars for society for millennia, won't be too bad if we destroy it for short term profits"
>fast forward 20 years
>"oh fugg, why is the family unit destroyed? :DD bls marry"

>women are whores
>men are manchildren
>housing is impossible to acquire
>employment 404
>competition with slave labor abroad
>education system is beyond saving, exacerbating gainful employment problems
>religion ded
>liberals/blacks/muslims have gone insane -> we're all going to die soon, why bother

>>129567806
>Until they both realize this and start shaming each other
Fix'd

Shaming is the way the traditional values were upheld. Notice how "slut-shaming" and vrious other "shamings" are promient sins in the feminist worldview. No-shame policy is literally how we ended up here.

>>129567534
>>Find a stable nine-to-five job.
You answered to your own question. We can't find that anymore.

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>>129567534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ig-RShZ6m4

Married? I cant even get a phone number

>h-hey, you seem really nice, would you like to go out sometime
>urgh no, get away from me or I'll scream
>Ayo bitch! Suk muh dik
>omg yes!!!

WHY ARENT PEOPLE MARRYING?

>>129567534
>24-year-old white guy
>6'1", 180 lbs, normal-looking face
>perfectly fine in conversations
>nothing glaringly wrong with me
>never had anyone tell me that they liked me
>never had anyone tell me that I was attractive
>never had anyone tell me that they enjoyed spending time with me
>never had anyone outside of family members tell me that they loved me

>Why Aren’t Millennials Getting Married?
Because it takes two people, and I can't find a second.

>>129567534
the couple is mixedrace WM/AF

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>>129568078
Sure. Why not blame everything on women? Typical misogynist.

>>129567957
>men are manchildren

Cuck. Where in from you have to be tough. No one will hand you a goddamn thing in this world. This phrase "manchildren" is what feminist roasties who want to cuck a beta into settling down say. If i want yo go quad biking, head to a strip club, and play skyrim, i fucking well will. show me a woman worth changing for, and ill show you a sexbot

>>129567645
Women have always been shit. After defeating two global powers in the 40s our economy boomed and our men grew weak. The state substituted for roles men played in the house, and now women don't need men as much as they did.

>>129567833
You might not have a son. You might have a daughter. And if she fights her rapist you can see her go to prison. If i had a daughter id tell her to make sure she gets raped by a white man, cuz at least then the police will investigate maybe

>>129567806
>They hit 30 years old, they don't have kids

>one female friend of mine made fun of a girl she knows for getting pregnant at 22

She was also incapable of understanding why I didn't share her vicious amusement about it.

>>129567534
We were taught how to have families but not how to be a family.

>>129567534
Men have finally realised mariage is the worst thing that can happen to them. Never will i ever get married, no man should ever get married. Glad my gf is redpilled and doesn't want it either

>>129568197
>looks at flag
>cant even find out where this spic is from because phone posting sucks

I dont take advice from the third world. Its why i often ignore my neighbours.

>>129568186
>>never had anyone tell me that they liked me
>>never had anyone tell me that I was attractive
>>never had anyone tell me that they enjoyed spending time with me
>>never had anyone outside of family members tell me that they loved me
Have you ever told anybody those things?

>>129568229
mgtow pls gtfo

>>129567534
Being a boring guy means you are already sentenced to a lonely life.

>>129568229
Definition of the term is way too unspecific. Or well, there's no real definition but the way it's used.

I would say that manchildren in the sense of "refusing to grow up" do exist - only that people have very different ideas of what "growing up" means.
For me it just means that you take responsibility for your actions. That's it. If you want to spend your weekend playing some video game, why not. It's your money, it's your weekend.

I definitely do agree though that especially women are prone to using it as "a man who refuses to do as I tell him".

>>129568264
Nah, working class men are more ruthless, and look at muslims in the west, even more extreme than their parents.

The problem is socialisation. The human mind is a strange thing, if a person hears they are garbage for merely existing, they begin to believe it. Think about it. Who has the power, the elites or the masses? The elites. So why bother spending billions fooling the population. Why censor speech. Why not just do a USSR. because humans can only take so much, and when they come together, you'll see an explosion that cant be contained.

I can see civil war in my country.

>>129568229

well up for playing some skyrim in a strip club

they'd be so impressed with my khajit illusion mage archer they'd give free lapdances i bet

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>>129567534
>Only a couple of generations ago, this traditional way of life was embraced

I thought everything traditional was bad and literally Hitler? I just followed what I was taught and checked my privilege:

>I left the job market so a woman or a person of color or a disabled person could be employed instead of me
>I don't want to get married because I don't want to oppress a woman and force her to that patriarchal form of slavery - especially now that women have finally gained freedom after a decades long fight
>I don't want to buy a house because owning something so extravagant would be like shoving my privilege on oppressed people's faces
>I don't want kids because there are already too many white, cis, polluting, meat-eating, heteronormative people on this planet

>>129567534
>>Find a stable nine-to-five job.
Doesn't exist for more people anymore and not everyone wants to be a fucking wageslave.

>Get married.
Why the fuck would you get married for in the first place? How exactly are the perks of being married outweighing those of living alone?

>Buy a house.
With what money exactly?

>Fill it with children.
Ruin your own existence for the sake of a bunch of ungrateful fucks.

Fuck you.

>>129567998
In traditional settings it would not stop at shaming. The left's saving grace is they will likely succumb to Sharia Law, in which case you will see me with a beard and arms in an enforcement capacity.

>>129568680

definitely in the next 10-20 years, but i'd rather see the nigger countries barred from international travel, chinks, poos and some nigger countries tactically nuked so we can keep this game up for the next 2 gens

>>129568748
This... is unironically my dream. When i win the lottery whores are going to watch me play video games.

A man can dream.

>>129567534
Women are shit
That shits expensive
We are overpopulated and need to figure out how fix the Muslim problem

cuz dei r not idiots

>>129568830
>How exactly are the perks of being married outweighing those of living alone?

I wonder how much longer till they transfer certain rights to married people only or increase the tax benefits.

They seem to start realizing that destroying the family unit wasn't actually all that great of an idea because they were what kept the nation prosperous (and you can't steal from someone who has nothing), so they'll have to eventually think of a way to undo the damage. And they'll probably not do it by rewarding married people who stay married, but by punishing everyone who does not marry.

Western wymin are programmed from all tv, movies, books to find child borth disgusting, scary, and terrible.

They are filled with thoughts of evil white men and small cocks, and told giving birth to white children is racist.

They are whores.

>>129567534

Not a millenial, but seriously, what's the point of marriage anyway?
It has no added value to a relationship.

>>129567534
Hilarious how /pol/ claims to want a return to traditional values yet, almost without exception, no one here actually 'walks the walk'. MGTOW and most of the Red Pill shit is simply a way for losers to rationalise their failure in a way that doesn't further reduce their already limited self esteem.

No one has mentioned government yet?

There's so many ways you can get fucked when getting a divorce that it's just not worth it anymore.

I think that is a big contributing factor towards people just being "partners" the rest of their lives.

>>129569210
>It has no added value to a relationship.

A relationship is of rather temporary nature, a marriage is the promise to stay exclusive to each other for the rest of your life.

Or well, that was the initial idea behind it and what gave people a reason to marry. Obviously that is not the case anymore, right now you get some marginal tax benefits in exchange for losing half your income at a later date.

>>129568680
It matters not how ruthless a man is when he has no power. Look at incarceration levels, homelessness, suicides, and deaths (in combat and non-combat roles). Men have been discouraged to be men directly because of the financial boom that followed after the defeat of Germany and Japan. No man was excluded from humiliation for exercising any of his traditional roles. The "elites" just took advantage of a naturally developing phenomenon. They aren't to blame, and neither, really, are women.

War is coming. I long for it. Men should embrace this. I hope you are ready.

>>129567534
>Only a couple of generations ago, this traditional way of life was embraced on nearly a universal level.
wut? No way you fucking idiot. Things back in the day were shit. If not for Manifest Destiny and the gold-rush (including slave labor), the problem would appear more similar in the past, which it was if you were even barely historically literate.

>>129568979
They've done that in the past, at least in Belgium. Then they stopped because it meant they would get less money.

>>129567534
That website is just terribly designed.

>>129567534
Mexicans and Muslims are included in "millenials" grouping. Refugees arnt making enough money to marry and have families.

>>129567934
It's funny isn't it. You'd think feminists and secularists would be panicking and not celebrating the low birth rates amongst liberal whites, since now only conservative Muslim's, Jews and Christians have a lot of children and they wouldn't want to lose their demographic advantage. I guess most of them really arent that intelligent or they're in denial.

Why get married with all the baggage, our overpopulated planet, the extreme failure of long term relationships, how women demand more and more of you or leave you, or just leave you anyway.

Have children? If your wife divorces you she will make your life shit with your kids, if you get to see them, and you automatically owe that bitch support.

Marriage sucks ass, I'll reconsider it when this society sticks with each other more and aren't a bunch of selfish ignorant assholes.

>>129568186
>never had a girl tell me she likes me
I found out the hard way that girls don't want to be told that you like them, and they don't like telling guys that either.

Girls want you to show that you like them, and they will show you that they like you (if they like you), and it keeps escalating.

Actually saying "I like you" comes off as autistic, which I'm finding out that I did a lot of autistic shit because I'm probably autistic.

You actually DO NOT want to hear a girl say "I like you..." because 95% of the time it will be followed by "...as a friend" or "...but I feel like I have more of a connection with Chad."

That connection that she's talking about is his dick in her pussy while you're in the friend zone.

because no girl want me....

>>129569320

That's a promise I can make without the whole marriage thing.

It's just a contract to lose half your shit if shit goes wrong.

>>129567712
Get a real job.

Easy. Get into local government. City or county.
Learn how local government works too.

>>129569538
>That's a promise I can make without the whole marriage thing.

Yes, nowadays. Back then it meant more because it was conducted by the church and people were actually religious. It added an extra layer of assurance that the other side would stick to their promise.

Obviously none of that matters today anymore.

>>129569538
>It's just a contract to lose half your shit if shit goes wrong.
Literally what.
The marriage contract can provide for separate ownership of your own property, both before and during marraige, unless you buy things in common.

This argument is retarded.

>>129569480
This is called the self-fulfilling prophecy

>>129568186
You are a coward that refuses to settle for homely woman. FTFY.

>>129569476
>I guess most of them really arent that intelligent or they're in denial.

They just never look deeper into it. They accept it as dogma because it's their replacement for religion.
You could argue that it makes them stupid for not thinking about something so important, but it's not that they are unintelligent and lacking the mental capacity to understand it. They just don't engage those topics on a logical level but purely on an emotional one.

>>129569704
This thread is so much cringe. Hard to take the alt-right seriously when it is 75-85% made up of the losers of society

Im too ugly to settle for.

>>129567534

Go on, link yourself and all your assets to a washed up coal burner goy!

>>129569811
While I do understand some societal issues that do explain this trend (plus the fact that most of us here are autistic or at least socially awkward/handicapped), some arguments really are idiotic, yeah.

>when it is 75-85% made up of the losers of society
Not sure about the Alt-right, but I'd say that's definitely true for MGTOW.

>>129569518
>Actually saying "I like you" comes off as autistic, which I'm finding out that I did a lot of autistic shit because I'm probably autistic.


It's just too blunt for them, they want it to be more of an ambiguous game. Goes for pretty much anything involving women, it's why they enjoy a flat hierarchy so much more or why it takes them so much longer to make decisions like what they want to eat or if they want to buy those clothes or not.
They are less direct than men, and since women control the dating market, you are kinda forced to play their game. Even if it's stupid.

>>129567534
>implying a "stable 9-5 job" pays enough to buy a house
>implying a "stable 9-5 job" actually exists, and doesn't imply boing out of the house at 6 and back at 8
>implying that leaves enough time for a marriage
>implying all of these leaves enough time and money to bring kids into the world

>>129567534
There are no benefits in marriage for the man.

Change the system (take away women's rights) and the problem will magically fix itself.

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>>129569231
>t.Roastie
When the average modern woman thinks she so above the average man that she prefers to become a single mother than marry a hard working well paid man who may not be a Chad and raise a nuclear family , then you know there is something wrong with modern women. Shaming men isn't going to hide the fact that modern women have become unmarriageable.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/05/16/women-just-arent-that-into-the-marriageable-male-anymore-economists-say/

>>129567998
good point anonski

>>129570046
>unarchived clickbaiters
https://archive.is/QFYga

>129570075
This is the best bot that was made in a while.
Also testing if it can still shoot off it's "Not a bot!" message if the reply link is broken

Boomers won't retire, no decent career paths.
Housing market is extremely inflated and filled with flippers and foreign investors.
Women realize they can sell their bodies one way or another (streaming, camwhoring, dating older men for momey) to pay for everything and modern education and media tells them to not feel ashamed about it.
Men find video games more exciting than their dull lives and they can find any sort of porn thet want for free to satisfy sexual urges.

>>129567534
I've got a career making $75k a year, and I'm married and have a son. Not my fault so many other men of my generation are failures, but then again, I had a great father and don't have shitty genes.

>>129570046
Women have always had multiple suitors, you absolute manchild. Furthermore, the data look worse than they really are because they take into account the growing underclass that is present in your country and mine.

>>129569548
House nigger detected.

>>129570046
>What she found surprised her.

Only because she didn't think about it at all. There is no reason to marry a man based on the financial stability he can provide when the state will do the same job through gibs. Then they'll value sexual attraction and so on way higher.

Which is mostly a problem because it's those financially reliable men that are keeping the welfare state alive, and if they are robbed of one of their main incentives to be financially reliable, your welfare state eventually collapses. So it i also kind of self-regulating and cyclical.

>>129570284
Right, because you probably made good life decisions. Most of the people here are complete fuckups, but nevertheless expect all of the benefits that come with hardwork and genuine goal setting.

>>129568229
>I don't want any responsibility
>I won't give the effort to obtain things for cheap, empty artificial mimicks
>I don't want to make an effort to

This is exactly what one means by being a manchild. You're essentially a kid throwing a tantrum over having to work to get something good in your life. You'd rather give up than trying it at all.

And worst of all is the fact that you mention replacements, because that means you do desire it, but instead gave up entirely on being able to get it. Possibly before even trying.

You're not only a manchild, you're also an emasculated coward. Men are supposed to fight.

>>129570436
Yeah I busted my ass working as a butcher to pay for college, and didn't go to college until I knew what I wanted to do.

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Fuck. Who are you people spending time with?

This is one of the most depressing threads that I've read in a while.

I posted it earlier.

Local fucking government. Not going to get rich but it's an ok paying 8 to 5 job. The competition is garbage.

I've worked my way up to management in the IT department. I don't make what the national average is for job but I don't have to work more than 40 hours a week.

The last two people I hired didn't have degrees but were the only motivated and intelligent ones out of the applicant pool.

>>129569476
>You'd think feminists and secularists would be panicking and not celebrating the low birth rates amongst liberal whites
They've got no common sense. The funniest thing is that they believe in evolution and survival of the fittest, but since they're dwindling in number and unable to reproduce it shows how unfit they are. Being mentally unfit is still unfit.

>>129569787
>They just don't engage those topics on a logical level but purely on an emotional one.
Ding ding!

>>129570378
This is such bullshit. Only the lower class would trade gibs for financial stability, and that's because financial stability in the lower classes isn't really financial stability. Most women are still attracted to guys with successful careers and ambition. If you lack those two things, you're right, finding someone worth your time will be very difficult

>>129567534
>Boomers spend decades raping all aspect of socially accepted behavior.
>Millennials don't want it.
>Boomers blame Millennials for their what the Boomers have done.
So you're saying Boomers are Jews?

>>129567534
3rd wave feminism

>>129567534
Its just not worth it. Women are shit, job prospects are shit, marriage itself is shit with the ever looming threat of no fault divorce. I would kill for someone to help fill the crippling loneliness in my life. I dont now how I'll cope when my cat dies.

>>129570634
>Only the lower class would trade gibs for financial stability

Yes, and? Like you said yourself in an earlier post, the underclass is growing. So how is this not a valid reason for the increase in such a behavior?

>>129570612
Yeah I've got some friends who work for the local electric company and they worked their asses off back in the day when we used to work together. They can put in 20% effort and outwork their coworkers easy. Most people, both men and women, are such entitled cunts they don't know what real work even is.

They to smart

>>129567534
>stable 9-to-5
>implying women even want to get married unless you even live to their high standards
>by the way marriage doesnt last long anymore because girls fuck everyone now and that correlates to more unstable marriages
>even if you have a stable decent paying job getting a house and having kids is a completely higher amount of money

>>129570593
Exactly. I think it's hilarious how many so-called societal crises today are entirely self-made. People have more opportunity than ever before, yet reading the posts on Reddit and 4chan you would think we were living in the Great Depression. WWII generation would be absolutely appalled.

>>129570743
Go volunteer at an animal shelter and find yourself a loving woman.

>>129570075
youre doing gods work but please remember to at least take a break for sleep

>>129570687
Quick money + lower class values = unstable families/relationships. I'm sorry, this just isn't the evidence you think it is.

>>129567534
Weddings are fucking expensive, so is the ring, so is the honeymoon, so is a downpayment on a house

We don't have the money

Rent is fucking expensive

>>129567534
i can achieve more without the distraction of love or the commitment of children

>>129570826
Yeah my grandfather died about a decade ago he was generally disgusted with American culture by the time he died. Luckily he taught me about kike tricks as a child and I never fell for a single one.

>>129570850
I think the local RSPCA takes volunteers. Hell even if I dont find a woman I might find a dog. Always wanted a dog since my cat is too lazy to go for walks.

>>129569704

So, is there's a failsafe way to not have to pay alimony at all either then?

>>129570341
Just renting.

Housing market is shit where I live. White flight is so bad that the pricing for a house inside of city limits is stupid cheap. Less than $100k.

But a house in the suburbs with the good school district is $250k or more plus mandatory flood insurance.

>>129570760
Point is, you don't have to make those same decisions. There is opportunity out there for those who will simply pursue it. The average person has never had more opportunity. I'm sorry if you're too pathetic to realise that.

>>129570294
Did you even read the study? This was a study on the areas of the united states that had a shale oil boom and where average income was generally higher for men than for the rest of the country. Usually in an economic boom,the local marriage rate increased whilst single motherhood decreased as a result of the pool of eligible and marriageable men increasing. This was observed in all previous economic booms. During the last oil boom, the researcher found no evidence that these regions had experienced increases in marriage rates. And the single motherhood rate had actually increased. Read the study, and see for yourself.

>>129567534
>WHY,MILLENNIALS? WHY?

No-fault-divorce and feminism have made women untrustworthy and promiscuous.
(((Banker))) oligarchy steals our prosperity through usury and fiat currency at a rate of 5% per year.

>>129571040
>Point is, you don't have to make those same decisions

I think you misunderstood something here. I was talking about general trends in the population, not my personal life.

>>129567534
Stagnating wages and pernicious ideologies that have tricked people into chasing money and hedonism instead of fulfilling their biological imperative

>>129570962
Serious question: how much of the alt-right do you reckon is made up of these moaners? I often get the feeling that it's more a movement of white mediocrity than white supremacy.

>>129570985
Dogs are pussy magnets my dude.

>Have dog
>Woman sees you with dog
>Woman realizes you can show love and affection for a small mammal
>Babies are small mammals
>Woman wants to make babies

Because we were taught by the boomers not to get married young.
Because we were taught by the boomers not to get pregnant until after 25 and now I'm even seeing some push for after 30.......
Because our women were taught to go to college and become independent, not how to be wives.
Because the legal systems reward women in the marriage and allow for them to rip off their own husbands thus destroying there lives.
Because the males from this generation were rarely taught how to be a good husband or taught skilled work, instead they focused all there energy on indoctrinating our young women because they are more agreeable and easier to teach.

Because our parents, and teachers were lazy at raising us and they were shit for examples on how to live this life anyway.

Almost every millennial I know wants this.
They want to be able to get a job that supports a family and a home. They want to find a loyal, trust worthy wife.
The problem is that with all of the above, many have come to realize it may never happen for them.

I am 26 I have been married since 19 and I have recently been able to get a job barely good enough to support me and my wife on my salary alone. However it took years for me to get to this point and we still have to budget and live paycheck to paycheck carefully. However, most from our generation aren't like this, and I feel for them, I really do. After all the only reason we have been able to accomplish this is because both me and my wife chose not to listen to our teachers/parents/pastors and got married young.

>>129570999
> is there's a failsafe way to not have to pay alimony at all either then?

Don't be an arsehole. Find a private settlment with your mate. Get fired from your job just before the divorce so you have little to nothing to pay for an alimony and cut all ties to your compagnon to make sure they don't come back asking for more when you get another job.

Besides, even if you do have to pay an alimony, it's not half your shit. It's money you give your children for them to live properly.

In my area at least working class people still do have a family and kids quite young. I'm the only person in the cold store I work in that doesn't have a kid and a wife.

>>129571118
Lots of people in this thread are making blanket statements that marriage is a sham/traditional values are for suckers. My point is this is really only the case if you are lower class, and are marrying someone with limited intelligence and poor values.

>Find a stable nine-to-five job.
yeah good luck bye

>>129571175
Dog it is then. Time to either find a good woman or end up completely destroyed and alone after losing half of my income.

>9-5
5am-11pm get on my level lazy fucks
Can't believe I share a cohort with you fuckers. Can we just gas everyone born after 95 at a minimum

>>129571278
Mostly, yes. You still share a country with the lower class though and they outnumber you, so it should be of at least peripheral interest to you to think about these problems before they do something stupid.

>>129571278
>Another upper class 120 IQ poster here to shit on lower class white trash and enlighten us all on his Ubermensch philosophy
wololololololololol

>>129570890
Your not very intelligent, are you? If that was the case, then this wouldn't be considered an aberration. The fact is, this is first time in modern American history that an economic boom wasn't followed by a marriage boom and the rate of single motherhood increased in these so called lower class areas.

>>129567534
Jesus that article was garbage

>>129570999
Enter into a "common law" marriage but only in a place where common law marriages aren't recognized as real marriage. This basically means she acts as your wife without the marriage license, a live-in girlfriend. You should probably mention you don't want to be married early in the relationship, that you're looking for a partner, not a piece of paper. Some will accept this, some won't, it's best to get it out of the way early.

>>129571022
Don't worry goy, according to the (((federal reserve))) inflation is less than 2%. They're working hard to increase prices of all goods so you can't even afford rent.

Just thinking about high cost of living and the feds policies makes me upset...

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>>129567534
1) Because we grew up in broken families so we know first hand the dangers of getting married - speaking from the man's point of view.

2) Your society can't bail out banks. Its literally impossible. By bailing out the banks we as a society traded a future for maintaining the present. We could have not bailed out the banks, let them fail, and it would have been difficult but the outcome woud have been a stable future. Instead we opted for re-capitalizing our bank accounts as they were in 2008.

3) If you had established a life BEFORE the 2008 "credit crunch" you were much more likely to suceed. Millenials are trying to etablish themselves AFTER the 2008 crash. By "establish themselves" I mean having paid off a mortgage thereby providing stable environment to raise a familiy. Trying to do so today is a mathematical impossibility.

> 6'4
> 210lbs
> Strong Jaw

Some would call me chad (i'm not) but even with these advantages I only get approached by sluts and whales.

Sluts and whales. That's the only fuck choices you get.

>>129571162
All political movements have betacucks clinging on like a Remora fish. The alt-right is just a combination of people fed up with cuckservatives and people tired of the poor leadership of the libertarians that know Trump is a great kick the balls to Marxists and Neocons. Kikes are actively working to destroy western culture, so most of their moaning is accurate, but muddled with their own personal failures.

>>129567534
For one marriage is a sham and divorce law in the US unabashedly fucks over men in a way that even wars can't. Secondly, I am more focused on completing law school and actually having a job/building my wealth because I need to prove to myself that my life was worth something. Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, we are in the Tumblr-ista feminist generation of women and a good many of them are not wifey material at all. It simply makes no sense to chain yourself to a succubus and quite frankly we are fucked in so many ways that less marriages is the least of my concerns. Leftism, Islamism, degeneracy, and so on are much bigger issues in our generation.

>>129571484
Start hanging around churches and snag yourself an American missionary qt.

>>129571484
> I only get approached
That's because they're approaching you dip shit.
Good girls wait for you to approach them.
Only whores or desperate women approach first.

>>129571377
The welfare state has had a considerable role in promoting degeneracy and should be curtailed, but not even Trump can run on that issue anymore. Too many of his own supporters live off the system. I don't see a path forward with the current demographics, but I'm not going to pretend that these people are in bad situations through no fault of their own. Government has enabled this behaviour, but government doesn't force people to discard virtue.

>>129567534
>WHY,MILLENNIALS? WHY?
26 now. What can I say? Women are shit, laws are shit, goverment is corrupt, world goes full nigg-nogg. I am not that cruel to let my child suffer in that world.

>>129571574
>If I don't continue my bloodline there's no bloodline to save from Marxism and the Islamic horde

Real sound logic my man.

College is a lot easier when you come home to a meal made by your wife.

>>129568476
>spic
That's Slovenia you dumb phone poster. What are you on to not be able to see flags? An iPhone 3?

>>129571402
Virtue ethics is something people of all intelligence levels can benefit from. And spare me the victim bullshit.

>>129567534
Because I'm only a 4/10 and while I'm friendly, confident and assertive in some situations, I have little confidence in my ability to interest a woman.
Thus, I live for myself, not somebody else.

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Modern women are broken. I gave up a decade ago on having a "relationship" and just fuck random whores when I get he urge. Paying for a one night stand with expensive alcohol and food is a far better bargain than the effort required to get tot know someone on a real level instead of their social media persona. Even if you find a decent one that isn't a total whore odds are she is stupid and nearly worthless in any capacity beyond being a hole to fuck. They don't know what they want and they don't deserve whatever it is they decide on.

>>129567534
They've taken the weeb-pill.
Quick rundown on weebs.
>NEETs bow to the weeaboos
>not in contact with 3DPD
>rumoured to possess otaku-like abilities
>control japan with a sweaty fist
>own anime studios and maid cafes all over the world
>direct descendants of the ancient /a/ funposter blood line
>will bankroll the first animes on mars (valvrave will be the first anime)
>own basically every anime subbing facility on Earth
>first designer babies will be certainly not be weeaboo babies
>all weeaboos are said to have 85- IQs
>ancient japanese manuscripts tell of pasty virgins who will descend upon japan and will bring an era of unemployment and unprecedented social regression with them
>These are the weeaboos
>They own AI waifu R&D labs around the world
>You likely have imaginary anime girls inside you right now
>The weeaboos are in regular communication with miyazaki, localizing new OVAs to the normie populace
>They learned fluent japanese in under a week
>Nation states entrust their anime reserves with the weebs. There's no anime in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Weeaboo
>The weeaboos are ~13-40 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human.
>In reality, they are timeless cancers in all points of time and space
>The weeaboos will guide humanity into a new age of anime, waifus, and 2D

>>129571189
IDK about belgium but none of that is true in the US. Following your example, you'd end up in jail and if you paid alimony your paycheck would go to your ex-wife and her new boyfriend. Women pay for restaurant dinners with their child support cards in the US, and the kids aren't even there.

>>129571188
>we have been able to accomplish this is because both me and my wife chose not to listen to our teachers/parents/pastors and got married young.

>"elders": no sex before marriage!
>"elders": don't get married in your prime either!
fuck old people.

You forgot that all the parents and authority figures all the way to the president were telling EVERYONE to go and get a college degree and load up on NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt. The only way to clear student loans is through death.

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>>129567534

Oh great, another "millennial" bashing. Remind me, how old are millennials now, 30-40 years old? Or are we just referring to the modern day youth with our hip new buzzwords?

>>129571410
I think I've already stated that there is a growing underclass with poor morals. My point is that this isn't universal across all groups/regions.

>>129571770
You sound pretty broken too son.

>>129571613
Yeah mate, but where do you find these "good girls".

I've know a few, but after a while you find out they're a slut or piss their money away or cut when they were younger or have daddy issues.

>>129571360
5am-11pm hahaha are you working in a sweatshop? good job being proud of your 3rd world hours you fuckin moron

I have no money that will satisfy women. They are never happy and they always want more. Fuck that, I will not work 12 hour days. I'm a school teacher, how am I supposed to buy a car, an apartment, provide for kids, pay for vacations, etc? And you can have a woman these days without that.

Furthermore, I was raised by a semi dysfunctional family which caused me and still causes me more problems than good and I just want to be left alone, I can't stand living with anyone. My siblings will probably have kids and I will do my best to be the cool uncle, but that's about it.

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my family has too much money to ever find someone that actually cares about me and isn't just after the money. Especially when I know that I'm a horrible person so there's no way anyone would care about me if there was no money.

>>129571823
early 30s-40 is Gen X
18 to late 20s is millennial

borderlines are 29,30,31

>>129568476
>can't see flag on a phone
Why aren't you using clover you dumb nigger?

>>129572020
what do you teach

Because their parents all divorced?

>>129571822
>Women pay for restaurant dinners with their child support cards in the US, and the kids aren't even there
Money's money. I don't see any reason or any way to curb this as long as children don't suffer from it.

>if you paid alimony your paycheck would go to your ex-wife and her new boyfriend.
Because the alimony's sky high?

> Following your example, you'd end up in jail
For fraud? To be fair, that'd probably happen in Belgium as well, but I know a few people who have done that.

>>129567534
>get married
>lose money, human rights, free time, no control over your children's upbringing, can lose them in a heartbeat on the mom's whim
Jeez I don't know.

>>129572070
It doesn't matter, we all get paid the same. People that have money at my age, 25, got a job through connections in the public sector.

>>129572026
You wanna paypal me enough to where you can know she likes you for you?

Sounds like a win-win to me.

>>129567534
who can afford a house you fucking stupid cunt?!

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Uh, it's not safe? Legally speaking it's both criminally and financially risky, even legally written prenuptial agreements are thrown out in court as "unfair" by feminist/leftist judges. MRA have a point, the courts aren't fair to men and women are protected unless they're seriously a meth addict or something.

They have the men realistically afraid of it and the women disinterested. Whites are the most affected because they have the most to lose criminally and financially often having no criminal record and at the very least having a job. Leftists are probably particularly concerned of gaining opportunities to rob richer whites of family money by redistributing it to disloyal leftist women who will waste it on cocaine and shoes. At this point they're making up legislations to trick us into it like "live together for a certain amount of time equals married". Who knows how far they'll take it? For all I know I'll end up living in a world where eye contact with a woman is rape and sex with her is marriage until I'm formally released from her 'service'.

It's vodka and video games for me until some of this undue risk is shouldered by another structure. I just don't have the financial resources to fight winning legal battles.

>>129568229

I don't think what you described is a manchild. I think it's more of the NEET video game, porn, and internet addict. That's my personal definition though, I bet feminists use yours.

>>129572180
i was just curious what you teach really, nothing else

>>129571822
yes, I did forget to mention the debt part however I did mention the issue with them focusing all efforts on teaching our women they need college....

The only reason I still have a loyal, virgin bride, is because I didn't listen to the "elders", even amoungst there cold remarks about us getting married so young.

We also managed to not listen to them about college, instead we both found valuable trade skills instead. Thank God I don't have massive amounts of school loans, I don't know what I'd do if I did.

>>129572026
This is the flip side to "I don't have the money to get a girl".

Women typically are looking for guys that are loaded so they themselves do not have to work. While those guys with money want a woman to emotionally connect to.

It's rare to find women that want to just be a man for who he is emotionally.

>>129572130
>Money's money. I don't see any reason or any way to curb this as long as children don't suffer from it.

You don't get it. The bitches get daddy government to give them housing and food while the father pays for their luxuries.

>Because the alimony's sky high?
It could be. Judges can set it high or low, your freedom lies in a lawyer's hands.

>For fraud? To be fair, that'd probably happen in Belgium as well, but I know a few people who have done that.
For not paying. By becoming unemployed and not paying, the judge will strip you of your license, passport and then throw you in jail.

>>129571851
Much of America was impoverished by our modern standards before the New Deal. That didn't stop the average American from creating stable families, and having a lower single motherhood rate than hyper developed Nordic countries with non existent poverty. In fact, a lot of poorer areas the world like Asia or the middle east before their economic boom had strong family institutions. Historically, the lower classes had stronger morals than the elite classes. Blaming every social problem on economics is such a liberal cop out

>>129567534
Watch Ronald Bertrand (p2) and you will get your answer.

>>129570889
powernaps m8a

>>129568186

Any statements of this nature will always be dismissed. A woman making such statements will generally receive sympathy. Understand the nature of society, of our species, is fundamentally separated by gender. You as a male will never be given equal treatment as a woman will. Ever. Understand this and you'll cope better and be less disappointed, or at least you'll have context for your disappointment.

>>129572388
>. The bitches get daddy government to give them housing and food while the father pays for their luxuries.
You make it sound like they're making a good living off that when the United States have one of the most miserable social security systems in the world.

> Judges can set it high or low, your freedom lies in a lawyer's hands.
That's why you need a good one. And also, don't make any mistakes and be a good father.

>For not paying. By becoming unemployed and not paying,
No, you become unemployed before the procedure starts. Are they expecting you to pay for a divorce you didn't choose when you don't even have a job anymore?

>>129567534
I was born in '97, turning 20 in about half a month. Does that make me a Millenial, or Gen Z? I'm just confused as fuck and would like to know

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Believe it or not but it's also prevalent amongst middle income westernized coloured people as well. Cultural Marxism and it's feminist agenda has infected the minds of many young woman of all colours to be "independent" and whore themselves out and not get shit for it.

>>129572405
Not what I'm arguing. Perhaps I'm not being clear, but my point is that the lower classes have lost the virtues that held the most vulnerable parts of society together. The welfare state is clearly one of the causes of this - bad behaviour has been rewarded now for over 40 years.

Feminism

>>129572564
They don't make a "good" living, but not having to do a single fucking thing to get an acceptable living standard is preferable to doing something and only getting "good".

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>>129570294
And there's a difference between having multiple suitors and riding the cock carousel until you're old and need to settle down . Most societies before post modernism infected the west had a stigma against women who were promiscuous and for good reason. There a direct correlation between the number of sexual partners a woman has and probability of having a stable marriage.

Typical horseshit hogwash pablum offered by some milquetoast, do-gooder, brainwashed moron.

These articles always offend me and not because I am easily offended but more particularly because they attempt to palm out complicated issues as if they have incredibly simple fixes or if the millennial generation wants less than the other generations. Not really.

I think that people are gun-shy on getting married as I think respect for married life is at an all time low and certain elements of our society attempt to offer this sort of pseudo-Nitzchean perspectivism that all things are ultimately equal. 'No, anon, explore your sexuality.' 'No, anon, you can wait until you are 40+. It's okay.' 'You gotta kiss a lot of frogs before you'll meet your prince/princess.' Etc.; etc.

I think also it is difficult to meet the material conditions of marriage. Who can afford a new house without assistance in the form of an FHA, other state and federal programs, maybe even a career based program like good neighbor next door? Renovations? Groceries? Utilities? Insurances? Car payments? Student loans? Heaven forbid we want children (like more than one)...how are we going to afford groceries and supplies without WIC, EBT, SNAP, TANF, etc. Do I even want to participate in any of these fucking programs? Hell no, I don't.

>Only a couple of generations ago, this traditional way of life was embraced on nearly a universal level.

Yeah, but what about the multi-generation household, bitch? Grandparents living in the attic or in a garret or in a mother-in-law was practically de rigueur and an economic necessity forever and ever. I think man's greatest failure is that he has forgotten that he is a carbon-based lifeform floating in space on a giant rock and that he is forever responsible to people like his parents, his family, his children, his community at-large, etc. By this I mean, absolute 'freedom', license, has ruined man forever. He's no longer a part of a cycle or a tradition.

>>129567534
>Get a "good job" with my "good education"
>It work. All boomers at IT is the way to go
>27k after taxes (gotta pay their social security don't you know) which is half as much some shit websites say is "median"
>Well you only have college and no experience so we're starting you at the lowest possible for the job
>Of course you can't have a raise outside your yearly 1.5% cost of living adjustment
>Taxes are going up 4% every year

>>129571189

Thing is, I'd run the moment my girlfriend gets pregnant and does'nt abort it.
I take good precaution to never have it happen, so if it does happen its likely sabotage and I want out.
I have always been very clear I don't want kids.

>>129567534
Make it more difficult for women to file for divorce (because they usually initiate it) and take my livelihood, then I'll consider it.

>>129572596

It's all arbitrary, I remember when media types decided to start using 'millennial' instead of Gen Y. I'd say in a general sense that coming of age during the 90s and early 00s counts. I started with floppies and dialup internet.

>>129567534

How many years do you have to work an average job to buy a flat in .uk these days?

How many years did you have to work two generations ago?

>>129572746
I've talked to a bunch of people and apparently the old raise culture is gone. These days you're expected to job hop even if you don't want to because nobody gives out raises any more.

>>129572759
why don't you just get yourself snipped then? Then you'd know for sure it isn't yours.

>>129572209
No, Aussie bro, you have no idea how gruesome growing up in poverty is. You have no idea what those families went through. I will not, under any circumstance, put my children through what I've been through. Unless I'm sure I can provide for them, I will simply not have a family.

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>>129572859
>buy

lol

>>129572681
True. But you're picking the worst case scenario, here. And this is straying from the original point, which was that you're not going to automatically lose half of the shit you own through divorce.

>>129572759
>>129572898
This.
Also, if you're so defiant of your girlfriend, why have one in the first place? How about fucking high standard hookers? You seem too immature and too scared to even be in a relationship to begin with.

>>129572892
but this is retarded, you only loose valuable employees that way

>>129572759
good goy

>>129571788
Fucking weaboomers

>>129572719
Ever wonder what else having tons of sexual partners correlates to? I'll help you out: Being lower class/trapped in a cycle of government dependency. And this group has been growing exponentially. What a surprise the numbers look like shit!

>>129573015
Yep, but at least you're managing your costs, eh?

Corporate mentality has gone globally cheap to the point that they're actually shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly.

>>129572892
Raises at my job is scheduled and capped. I've topped out and the only way I can get a raise now is try and move into management or find a new job. I've only been at my company for 3 years. Previous job I was there for almost a decade and it was the same shit.

>>129572892
This, the best way to get a real raise is to get a new job, even if its the same type somewhere else most places will give you a raise to bring you in. Stay at the same job though? Get a promotion and get a 75 cent raise....was it worth it?

>>129572898

Thing is, doctors won't snip me for now because they think I'm "too young".
I'm almost 30 ffs.
Gf is 22 and I want to have it done before she gets to the "whining for kids age".

>>129573015
Better to lose valuable employees than see a slightly higher wage bill.

Here the staff is so low that we have thefts every day because there's no one free to even keep an eye out, but that's fine because they're saving a shit load on wages and can write off the stolen goods with the insurance.

>>129573111
Same, I reached raise cap within a year and a half at my job, I could be there for another 10 years and they wouldn't give me another raise. Left and found a new job that instantly gives me a raise for the same thing just because I'm new.

>>129572898
I would've gotten one ages ago but I can't legally have one in Finland until I'm 30 or have 3 kids. Not even if I paid for it all by myself. And I've been too lazy to go practice medical tourism.

>>129567534
>Find a stable nine-to-five job.
Has become much more difficult, and isn't nearly as rewarding as it was for our parents

>Buy a house.
Has become incredibly difficult, I'd ned to save 50 grand minimum deposit unless I want to live 3 hours commute away from where the only jobs are

>Fill it with children.
Can't afford them

>>129567534
>Find a stable nine-to-five job

Even if it's stable it doesn't pay enough, cost of living is high.

>Get married.

50% divorce rate within 5 years for newlyweds.

>Buy a house.

Take a look at house prices.

>Fill it with children.

Combine that expense with the former and probability of divorce which leads to divorce-rape and kids you'll never see. Then throw in the world you'll be raising your kids in and how they'll be indoctrinated from the moment they enter the education system.

Good deal right? Fuck millennials for not being grateful.

>>129573070
Do have evidence that lower class women are more promiscuous than middleclass women?

>>129567534
MARRIAGES IS

GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>129573113
This is the case here. Our manager is on £1 an hour more.

>>129571674
I'm not fearful of the Marxists breeding because most leftists are against the idea of having kids at all. Some of them say they don't want kids because they honestly believe global warming will kill us all.

The Islamic horde on the other hand is a bigger issue but I'm pretty confident that there will be a Crusade before the West capitulates to the Islamic horde so violent conflict might decide how that goes.


Like I know it is right to keep the bloodline going but there are just too many mines to evade and I don't want to lose the independence. Hopefully trying to redpill enough people in life will counteract the tide. I also might consider adopting a kid around teenage years and having a Master-Apprentice style relationship with the kid so I teach him my ways. As Metal Gear Solid 2 pointed out, genetics isn't the only way to pass on the ideas of a generation. /pol/ tends to forget that fact.

>>129573015
yes, yes it is, however this is how most companies work now.

>>129572564
>You make it sound like they're making a good living off that when the United States have one of the most miserable social security systems in the world.

If you don't work at all and get all expenses paid plus $1000 every month to play with, would that be a good life?

>That's why you need a good one. And also, don't make any mistakes and be a good father.
I mean the judge is a lawyer. Not your representation, which will cost you a ton by itself.

>No, you become unemployed before the procedure starts. Are they expecting you to pay for a divorce you didn't choose when you don't even have a job anymore?
You'll have to pay for your own AND her lawyer. Becoming unemployed beforehand might not help at all, you'll also have to declare all assets you own. She'll get at least 50% of those assets and could get future earnings if you re-enter the workforce. Remember, the judge can set almost anything he wants in america- he can rip up your prenuptial agreement and set alimony very high. Even if you lose your job, the alimony won't go away. There are bankers who lost their jobs in the financial crisis that had $10k/month alimony payments, they all went to jail- the judges didn't adjust their payments to account for unemployment.

>>129573240
>I can't legally have one in Finland
That doesn't sound very tolerant. What about a man's right to choose? lol

>>129571344
Fucking bong your country is full of jobs, you only deserve migrants to earn 2700£ a month while you cry "reee no jobs ;-("

>>129568979
Beacuse you think punishing those who arent married is gonna change much?
The problem isnt the marrife but the divorce laws and courts, living alone with increased taxes still beats out losing 75% of your assets and paying vagina money for years, AND not beeing able to be with your own children.

Stop the emotional thinking, all men want to pair bond, you just have to not make it a complete suicide mission, just view it in a pure cost benefit analysis.

And enoght with the "todays woman/man", we are all basicly the same instinct wise, its mostly about the enviorement, if shit is fucked up look at the laws, look at how laws are made, and look at the voteing rights and how that afects society.

No man can out provide the state, no woman will pick a man over the state woth todays brainwashing, and no man are going to marry with the promisse of divorce rape

>>129572026
why don't you rich retards just not flaunt your jacuzzis everywhere if you're so concerned about being loved for who you are? Does being rich cause a vocal cord malfunction where you have to tell people?

>>129573357
>She'll get at least 50% of those assets and could get future earnings if you re-enter the workforce.
You can't have a separation of property?

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>>129570568
>a kid throwing a tantrum over having to work to get something good in your life

Are you implying that going to strip clubs, riding quad bikes and playing Skyrim are not good?

>Men are supposed to fight
Translation: men are supposed to sacrifice themselves for women because eggs are rare and expensive while sperm is cheap and plentiful

>>129571502
>Jews ruining everything

No, that's just you blaming society's problems on a group of people who have nothing do to with it.

>>129572892
According to my co-workers, there will be a time when the boss decides I'm working too much at hourly (I manage 200+ doctor's offices and 7 hospitals) and he will call me in and offer me a salaried position. This position will just not quite pay enough to make up the over time I get now, and if I say I like where I'm at, he will lay me off so it's basically a forced pay cut. Also in his own words, salaried people should be working 55 to 65 hours a week.

>>129567534
because why would I want to surround my self with painful and annoying obligations?

>>129569811

Here comes the butthurt whiny bitch

>>129573508
This. Working to get something ''good'' comes down to you slaving away and getting absolutely no respect for it. Women and you family just slowly eat away at your soul until you turn to booze or just drop dead.

>>129569811
Screw you dude, I have 2 MAs and a job, I'm not a loser.

>>129573654
I hate this bullshit about our country. I saw this exact same thing happen to my Mom when she was still working.

She was already working her ass off and never got to be home with us as a family. She did at least get paid overtime. They then forced her to take a promotion and go salary and continued to work her overtime the same as before but now without the pay....

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>>129567534
uh if your wife cheats on you, you lose half your wealth and your children.

Fuck that shit,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ

>>129567534
Because modern women are trash.

>>129567534
>A generation known for not wanting to do anything, allergic to everything and yet comprised of the most attention whores per capita

Absolutely the worst generation. GenZ even thinks they're idiots.

One thing about millennial though, since GenY (me) every workplace has been told by HR "gurus" that the new gens will not stay "any longer than 4 years" short of being given the world.
This has been pretty much wrong but finally with Millenials it's true! Only, they're being made to move on or they resign since they're such pathetic employees. Never seen so many quit because the job's too hard, not close to home, not prestigious enough, not enough fringe benefits. Or just fired for being unproductive.

Strangely they don't seem too fussed with the pay. Give them a nice space, a galaxy8 or i7 plus, surface pro and a fancy title and they'll quite happily humble brag online all day.

>>129567534
>Find a stable nine-to-five job. Get married. Buy a house. Fill it with children.

>Find a stable nine to five job
>implying

>buy a house
>IM FUCKING PLYING

Bitch I can't even afford to have a car you fucking nigger. It was really hard to find my job and I still have to live in a SINGLE FUCKING RENTED ROOM AND USE PUBLIC TRANSPORT.

FUCK YOU BOOMER NIGGERS YOU HAD EVERYTHING HANDED TO YOU, WITH ANY SHITTY JOB YOU COULD AFFORD A HOUSE A CAR AND A GIRLFRIEND AND TO BE MARRIED WITH CHILDREN AT 25 I AM 21 AND CANT EVEN AFFORD TO OWN A CAR FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

Sage this shit fucking Boomer nigger thread

>>129567534

Because,

>why make kids in a society that has no hope of recovering decades of feminism and mass immigration?

>why marry a woman while in all likeliness she'll ask for a divoce after a few years and you'll get proper fucked by the court guaranteed

>why get into a relationship while there are plenty desperate women around which will suck your dick and won't ask you to give up on your hobbies in return


They make fancy articles these feminists but refuse to point out the elefant in the room.

>>129573015
People are effectively just commodities and only certain positions are investments. It's really shitty for the first wave millennials because groing up we were inundated with messages of hard work and company loyalty just to be greeted by a work landscape that over the majority doesn't share those values.

>>129573502
If you each owned stuff separately and WANT to keep it separate in the divorce then that's up to you. Otherwise she'll keep her shit and take half of yours too. She's going to get alimony and child support on top of that too. Judges can also stick you with things that need to be paid off like cars too. America was based on english common law but we went full retard and adopted communist things like no-fault divorce. The judges are psycho man-haters that throw you in jail and enjoy the power trip.

>>129573654
Not sure this is legal. Giving a person salary then overworking/underpaying them could be grounds for a lawsuit. There's a class action right now against walmart for making managers salaried employees then not paying them enough for the hours they worked.

>>129573430
It ridiculous desu senpai

>>129567534
Who the fuck has a 9 to 5 job these days? That would be the fucking dream compared to this day on day off, part time underemployed bullshit.

the world has enough people in it, and i have a dog for companionship. i have yet to find a woman i'd consider marrying. if i'm tired of fucking my pocket pussy i hit up tinder. fuck off baby boomer scum.

>>129574016
>Not sure this is legal
It happens all the time bro....

>>129574016
Who's going to stick their neck out for that? My department has like 5 people (we need about 15) he's the boss. He does what he wants

>>129574016
>If you each owned stuff separately and WANT to keep it separate in the divorce then that's up to you.

I think that's the only proper course of action in any marriage. Ownership should be kept separate and common ownership, kept to a minimum. That's how you reduce damage in most situations, be it for a divorce or because one of you went bankrupt or something. Fuck common ownership.

>>129573508
>Are you implying that going to strip clubs, riding quad bikes and playing Skyrim are not good?
Yes.
>Translation: men are supposed to sacrifice themselves for women because eggs are rare and expensive while sperm is cheap and plentiful
Being a man ain't easy my mongoloid friend

>>129568853
Settle down there Adolph

>>129573268
Coming apart by Charles Murray is a good place to start. Lower class has higher rates of STDs, abortion, illegitimate children, lower marriage rates (marriage implies greater rates of monogamy). There is plenty of evidence.

>>129569811
That's what the Roman's would have probably said about the Barbarians, before they overran their empire. Or the Weimar republicans to the young Natsoc, who were also seen as losers at the fringe of German society.

Fear the losers. They are dangerous because they have nothing to live for, except for the destruction of the status quo. The so called losers have been far more impactful on history then you cunts ever will.

>>129573502
He answered you already my friend.

>Remember, the judge can set almost anything he wants in america- he can rip up your prenuptial agreement and set alimony very high. Even if you lose your job, the alimony won't go away. There are bankers who lost their jobs in the financial crisis that had $10k/month alimony payments, they all went to jail- the judges didn't adjust their payments to account for unemployment.

>>129574376
So separation of property is considered to be a prenuptial agreement and not part of the matrimonial regime itself?

>>129574208
Try and save emails. Try and get voice recordings on your cell phone when he calls you into the office (this may or may not be legal depending on state laws). Either that or just accept the salary position.

>>129574355
Yes, because 4chan is made up of farmers and outdoorsmen lol

>>129574355
Im ready for war.

>>129567534
Marriage is a jewish scam now, reform it or give up on it.

>>129574464

Community of acquests is considered the default, and any change from it is part of the prenup.

>>129574550
This is fucking preposterous.

>>129574192
>>129574208
What I mean is that salary positions must pay a certain amount for a certain amount of work that boils down to at least $16/hour or something. The minimum for a salaried employee is somewhere in the 30k range. Any less than that and you end up like walmart with class actions flying everywhere.

>>129574210
But the judges will fuck you hard here. It doesn't matter what kind of agreement you had before marriage, they'll tear it up and strip you of everything.

>>129574238
Pretty soon you'll be sporting my flag paco.

>>129567957
>employment 404
If you dont have a job in this economy you arent trying

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>>129574604
>But the judges will fuck you hard here. It doesn't matter what kind of agreement you had before marriage, they'll tear it up and strip you of everything.


See >>129574597

>>129574016
>Not sure this is legal. Giving a person salary then overworking/underpaying them could be grounds for a lawsuit.

It should be, but it's regrettably far too common.

>>129572759
good kaaskop, keep dat white dutch population low , meanwhile Turk and Mocro are shitting out babies by the busload

>>129574811
Fucking this.

>>129574016
This is usually the reason why men aren't marrying. The Divorce Industrial Complex is the biggest problem in society.

>>129574811
If you want to save the white race reform marriage and take away women rights. Shaming won't work.

>>129567534

Because millennials are beta.

>>129574775
Need more lawsuits. Give those class action whores something productive to work on instead of clogging the courts with pointless bullshit.

>>129568830
>Belgian job market is bad
Walloon pls go

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>>129567534
>Wanting to get married and raise a family when western civilization is now living on borrowed time.

Whats the point when all of this is going to come crashing down soon enough? The truth is Society is now so corrupt and far gone from Tradition/Nature that the only thing that can fix it is a hard reset.

There is a shit storm brewing, it's been brewing for the past couple of decades. You can feel it, i can feel it, everyone can feel it deep down. We are very close to the precipice. All of society's problems are going to one day soon catch up to it, and it's going to be a debt that it can no longer pay.

See you in September.

We dont feel like losing everything to a whore.

>>129575108
The Walloon job market is pretty depressing to be honest. Now the mistake is to stay there.
I'm not complaining, though, I'm self-employed.

>>129567534
I can't afford that shit right now.

Plus my girlfriend is in the normie girl phase of "never getting married and never having kids!" shes 21 so I'm assuming she will change her mind.

>>129567534
I'm married.
25.
Have nearly a million in assets thanks to my wife and spend my days shitposting in between 'work', which is not really work.
Sucks to be you.

>>129575105

DESU I think we need better laws. $16/hour as the salaried threshhold is too low with current cost of living.

>>129572596
I'm pretty sure you're Gen Z. I was born in '95, so I'm on the edge. Not exactly Gen Z, but not a millennial either.

>>129574244
It doesn't explain why rich countries with non existent poverty like many Nordic countries have some of the highest single motherhood rates and the lowest marriage rates.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/photo/481302/


But I do agree, there is correlation, but I thinks it overly simplistic to attribute single motherhood on purely economics. I believe (((culture))) now has a larger impact on marriage/single motherhood rates than socioeconomic factors in rich countries.

>>129575283
That's not a phase m8.
Normal women want kids and do from a young age.

>>129575283
>shes 21 so I'm assuming she will change her mind.
If she's 21 and thinking like that, she's fucked in the head. Try redpilling her but prepare to have to ditch her because she's not wife material.

>>129575195
Good to hear, just don't vote in those litteral communist and were good
On second thought maybe vote them in and we can legit seperate

>>129567534
way ahead of you, young fags
>GenXer
>Made it alive out of "youth"
>Seen all my buddies playing the women timeline
>Told them we don't need to because we age like wine, they, like milk, we have time
>Beta buddies can't see past the pussy they slay atm
>They get locked in with babies and mortgage
>Their bitches now are fat and don't work or very little
>Spend their time spending their man's cash
>All my buddies look 10 to 15 years older than I
>Their bitches look 20 years older than I
>My bros are miserable
I bet a lot of millennial have seen that shit happen or at least understand it. The internet has made it easier to share that kind of truth and men know better nowadays.

>>129575448
I want us to separate our finances, so my politicians will have to be held accountable for something at least once in their fucking history.

But I'm surrounded by communists and socialists here, this is sickening.

>>129575369
Agreed, If she's already 21 and thinks she never wants to get married, then she probably won't ever want to until she realizes shes aging and not as pretty anymore, then she will want to only for stability, which means she will never take it seriously or truly respect it.

Normal girls would say I'm young I don't want kids right now...not never....

>>129574523
No, we are propagandists influencing an entire generation who grew up on the internet. We are more dangerous than any farmer.

>>129575369
>>129575445
Its just because she's had fucked experiences with men and commitment in the past.

Now she's really enjoying being treated like a woman, this is why I think she will come around.

Shes also starting to be redpilled, she hates Muslims and niggers for committing so much crime. she used to be a #refugeeswelcome kind of girl.

>>129575646
>Its just because she's had fucked experiences with men and commitment in the past.

Have fun collecting the pieces holy fuck.

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>>129575646
christ in heavens you are doomed
rip. angloanon

>>129574523
>/pol/ are shut in losers who can't influence anything
tell that to eric clanton. why are there so many shills on here if we have no influence?

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>>129575527
It's really sad when you think about how socialism Destroyed walloonia.

And the absolute deathgrip PS has

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>>129575731
>>129575888

Fucking rip me, amirite?

let me pretend just a while longer.

Don't fall in love /pol/ it fucking sucks. its easy enough to just say "just leave her now" but I know I can't.

>>129575646
>Shes also starting to be redpilled

So she has a weak mentality?

>>129576055
>It's really sad when you think about how socialism Destroyed walloonia.
Yeah.

>And the absolute deathgrip PS has
Now they're fighting against actual communists.

>>129576132
This.

>>129575506
The internet? Well, I suppose its helped but honestly without the internet as a child I witnessed 4 brutal family destroying divorces all who seemed perfectly well.

Every single one of them:
The man made a nice living.
the woman was the one who cheated
The man tried to make things work despite this.
The woman insisted on leaving.
3 out of the 4 women took everything, the kids, the dog, the house.
One of the men even lost his job because of it, he was a pastor and in their church divorced men were not allowed to preach.

Whaddyah mean? I'm getting married in the winter! We don't have much money, so I'll be broadcasting it via twitch. Be sure to pre-buy the event if you can't make it so you can help fund our honeymoon to beautiful Nova Scotia, Canada!!!

I remember growing up a lot of the white field I knew hated the idea of having kids because they saw them as annoying as fuck

>>129573070
>Ever wonder what else having tons of sexual partners correlates to? I'll help you out: Being lower class/trapped in a cycle of government dependency.
Absolute horseshit.

>>129576265
>white field
Meant white girls, Jewish auto correct

>>129576132
Women naturally conform to their partner's politics.

Wouldn't say she's got a weak mentality, at least not any more to normal women.

>>129567998
Excep that men are ebing shamed for playing video games or being virgins while women get a free pass when it comes to riding the cock carousel

>>129576329
this.

>>129567534
I be millennial.

>marry girl and best friend be with 6 years
>both do anesthesia
>fucking7kmarriagetax A YEAR
>fuck that noise
>get dissolution, still together

Fix the system you non-millennial twat

>>129567534
jews

>>129575646
How many past relationships has she had? And what do you mean by fucked around? Only you can make the call whether she is good for you mate, don't make any rash decisions because of some autist said on here.

>>129568853
>nuking natural resources

no country is this retarded

>>129571206
>I'm the only person in the cold store I work in
That's a weird description, do you mean this place?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khGQSqocvGU

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>>129576217
>tfw parents got divorced when mom cucked dad
>dad won in court
>mom, remarried, still mad about it to this day
>still complains about lack of alimony

>>129576612
Only 1

He used to emotionally abuse and rape her. she used to have to be the provider in the relationship (emotionally and physically) so she didn't feel feminine at all. now though she really enjoys being able to act feminine.

Honestly, i want to kick his fucking teeth in if I find him.

>demolish tradition for no reason
>wonder why people arent doing traditional things

>>129576850
Rape as in what? Fuck her against her will?

>>129576850
You're the definition of a beta male. Kill yourself.

>>129576970
yeah, forceful rape as well as her waking up to him fucking her.

he was absolute scum

>>129576850
Dangerous to get in a relationship with a woman like that. She's just going to cling onto anything that gives her importance, she's probably going to be like an energy-vampire unless you actually get off on playing the hero/father figure for her.

>>129567534
because the fucking chinese and baby boomers have made house prices 100x more expensive and im not buying a overpriced house also job security and bust/boom economics..life sucks

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>>129577042
Working on it my friend

>>129576822
It's good to know every once and a while the court isn't fucking retarded

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>>129576850
leave her you sorry excuse for an anglo

>>129577133
Yeah i get that.

Thankfully she's not clinging or being and energy vampire. at least not yet.

It helps that she's had therapy for it, she's not completely over it and i don't think she ever will be but its no longer actively affecting her life.

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>>129574244
You got BTFO pretty hard you dumb bong.

>>129576850
Be careful man, you might be the next one she cries rape about to her new boyfriend or worse the court.

>>129577065
>her waking up to him fucking her.
Lol. My wife loves that and wants me to do it. Loves waking up with my dick inside her. Also loves getting fucked when she thinks she's not in the mood.

I'm not sure how you can classify something as rape in a monogomous relationship.

>>129577353
I hope it doesn't get to that, it's very ugly.

Hope she can actually deal with all that eventually. It's nice if you can have a good relationship after all that. But this is Russian roulette.

>>129575506

I'm in the middle of it now. It's amusing being one of the rare people in the workplace who isn't jumping to get married and have children (or more specifically the men don't even think about it but just go along with it when the woman 'suprisingly' gets knocked up). Coincidentally I'm the only one in my 20s who has all debts paid off.

>>129577489
Of course it is possible to rape someone even if your in a relationship, howeer waking up to him fucking her? Seriously? Were they already in bed together by choice? My wife and I do this all the time

>>129577579
Trust me, i was cautious as hell when it started.

I have had those types of relationships before and it's just soul draining. however, with her it's completely different, sure she needs my help sometimes but it's not constant emotional clinging.

she would make an excellent mother but she just doesn't see it. who knows in a few years she might change her mind. if not then... fuck.

>>129568902
When you try to explain the games to them you begin to realise how fruitless what you are doing is

>>129567534
No jobs and women suck.

>>129575506
>>129577591
What normally happens when a man calls her bluff when they stop taking the pill or poke a hole in the condom and get pregnant? Do they follow through with the pregnancy? I mean just saying to her face enjoy your child support, that's the only support you'll be getting from me and cutting her from your life completely, would she be likely to get an abortion when she realizes you're serious or would they not understand she's facing a life of loneliness as a single mother?

>>129573575
Fuck off jew

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>>129567534
Because my oneitis has rejected me for 12 years. Most recently I told her I just want a wife and family. She told me to never message her again (she has a new bf). Feels bad man :(

>>129567534
Because nowadays, people just meet on Kikebood/Tinder/whatever, just to fuck and that's that. They don't want to be married and have kids because ''kids are annoying and it prevents them from getting good jobs'', because most millenials believe they can become executives or CEOs if they work for a few years at McDonald's.

>>129577489
>>129577672
Yeah, they were in the same bed together but she made it clear she didn't want sex.

He had already forcefully raped her at that point too so she just didn't want to be touched.

I mean I know /pol/ is autistic but I think even you can understand how violating it would be in that situation

its different when you are in a happy relationship

>>129577961

Men care about their children typically, and that is leverage she can use to get what she wants. And that child support is not insubstantial. You call her bluff, she still wins.

>>129567534

Marriage is literally slavery for men.

No thanx

>>129578079

In the more conservative areas of the US, there is a reaction to these excesses with women behaving in a more traditional fashion in order to try to set themselves up nicely. But the divorces are just as frequent.

>>129569548
So, become a leach on society.
Good choice there.

>>129578089
was already forcefully raped by this man,
Then chooses to get in bed with him again but doesn't want sex and expects not to get raped again....I'm just not sure I understand that logic or story man.... How long was she with this guy?

>>129567534
>Find a stable nine-to-five job. Get married. Buy a house. Fill it with children.
No. That isn't for me. Remember that almost all married couples divorce. The concept of the nuclear family only works when women are slaves who stay at home. In case you haven't noticed, that is no longer the case. The whole 'white picket fence' thing is a meme that was pushed by our retarded parents and grandparents. I don't blindly follow social norms. I do what I please, and I like my life.

>>129578492

I always found the prospect of being stuck in a marriage I hated but was too apathetic or cowardly to leave to be an even worse fate. Statistics can't account for those.

>Work 5AM-7PM
>implying I have time for a relationship

>>129577854
>Trust me, i was cautious as hell when it started.
Good then.

>with her it's completely different, sure she needs my help sometimes but it's not constant emotional clinging.
Thank fucking God for that.

Wish you good fortune, mate.