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DID YOU QUIT ALREADY ?

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The two worst fucking things in our degenerate, decadent society.
>Videogames
>Porn
Yes, this has social and thus political importance and impact.

Did you quit?
When will you quit?
Do you struggle to quit?
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>>129552768
No. But goddammit I'm trying
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>>129552768
I indulge in both in excess. Fight me.
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Video games own sorry bro my homie came over hitup dat Omega Collection like good times man too bad only 2 player local.
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>>129552768
They're literally the epitome of useless eaters
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>>129552768
>The two worst fucking things in our degenerate, decadent society.
Not by a long shot.
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>>129552768

Those are just methods of escapism. Fix the sick and degenerate culture and society and fewer people will feel the need to resort to escapism. But of course none of that it is going to happen nor is it even possible given how far things have gotten, so we shouldn't waste our time with this discussion. The West is dead.
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>>129552768
I'm trying to quit video games but I just can't do it, I go like a day then I relapse, install it back and play a couple of hours.

I just want to quit it so bad but it feels like there's no more entertainment for me if I'm not playing a video game. I think it takes about 8 hours of my life every day and it's such a huge time waste since I'm not accomplishing anything, I don't feel accomplished after playing.
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>>129552768
i do whatever the fuck i want with my free time, fuck off
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No, I won't quit. There is nothing else for me in this world. There's no good jobs, women are pretty much all whores and the ones that aren't are already in a relationship or wifed up. What do I have to look forward to? Dating some single mom who fucked bad boys in her twenties and is now ready to 'settle down'? Fuck that noise.

This civilization is going to collapse, who cares what we do between then and now. I've got a .44 magnum retirement plan when it finally does.
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>>129553155
>Not by a long shot.
They are the most unobstrusive things manipulating us. They are everywhere and around 24/7. They constantly poison us with small but steady doses.

>>129553275
>Fix the sick and degenerate culture
>But of course none of that it is going to happen
Which is why everyone needs a personal solution in his life.

>>129553466
I have the same issue with porn.
Video games - no. I quit for half a year now. I went back to play some GTA yesterday and it was fun. Tempting fun. But it seemed like such a waste of time that it had a bitter after-taste and at the end I didn't enjoy it. I think I'm cured of the video game BS.

But porn. Shit.
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>>129553645
How'd you quit video games? Describe the process for me
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>>129553466
>I don't feel accomplished after playing.
you don't have to, games are a way to blow some steam, relax or compete
personally i can not play single player games, i have to play against other people but you won't feel accomplished after playing i only feel accomplished after a day of hard work
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>>129553466
Trust me in the future as you get older and if life does not go your way you will look backs and wish you still had anything you were so intrested/passionate in and wish you still had the free time. If you enjoy it then just do it, just don't let it negatively effect other important parts of your life.
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>>129552768
No, why would I? Those things are just as meaningless as all the other shit most people do. They either stare at the tv or spam instagram with their faces.
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>>129552768
>yes
>almost
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>>129552768
I only play Touhou games
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>>129552768
Adulting is knowing things to be degenerate, doing them anyway, and understanding the vastly unknown concept of moderation.
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>>129552768
you failed to explain why i should quit

why do my hobbies have to fall in line with your expectations for society?
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>>129554448
Because degeneracy obviously.
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>>129553729
I started with reducing the amount of video game genres I played. I used to play action games, RPGs - just about everything. I picked the few genres that combined two elements as equally as possible: fun & no waste of time.
RPGs were fun. But with their massive amount of grinding, role-playing and so on, they were a waste of time. Online FPSs were a small waste of time, but I didn't enjoy them as much. For me GTA was the perfect combo so I just played that. It was already a reduction of play time from 6 to 3 hours a day.

I also stopped reading video game news and buying new games. I would then proceed to actively reduce play time to 2 hours. After one month I just got bored. It simply worked for me.

The thing is, when you are used to something and you quit it, you feel like you're missing out on something. But that's not true. I for example never watched movies. Hell, I have no idea what's running in theatres right now. Does it bother me? No. Same with video games. I just don't care about them anymore. I recently started refreshing my knowledge about them, I know what new games are being released and so on. But I have no interest in checking them out. So it worked for me.

>>129554341
>Adulting is knowing things to be degenerate, doing them anyway, and understanding the vastly unknown concept of moderation.
This.

>>129553978
Well, if you'll quit VGs and porns, don't replace them with other crap.
Workout, read books, ...

>>129554448
If you don't think video games and porn are degenerate, that's none of my business. Why are you here then?
It's like fat acceptance. If you enjoy being fat, I don't care. Have fun.

>why do my hobbies have to fall in line with your expectations for society?
Fucking goon, back to >>>plebbit
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only play overwatch when I have free time
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I stopped playing video games and watching porn and now I just lurk pol all day and call people stupid niggers on twitter. Still better than faggot ass video games and porn tho
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>>129552768
I think muslims and jews are worse than porn and videogames.
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>>129554642
>I'd never trade the years of 2004-2008 I had on WoW for anything.
kys
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After watching that Bethesda conference, I might start looking into reading. Everything about it was terrible, besides Wolfenstein, but only because of how ridiculous of a premise it is what with the blaxploitation caricature and all.
Also, it's just a fun little shooter you can turn your brain off to.
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>>129554593
I read more books by 25 than an average person does in his or her whole life. And it didn't really have a positive impact on my life because people only care how charming you are, not how smart you are. Actually, it only made me see how utterly shit people are. I get 30 minutes of physical activity a day. I go to work, come home exhausted and just fuck around with vidya.
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An adult can play video games and watch porn in moderation.
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>>129552768
Video games degenerate?

For me degenerate.. its books like da vinci code , all books are degenerate

makes you live in fantasy and its a form of escaping from reality
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>>129552768
Both. LSD helped a lot. No struggle.
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>>129554720
kek

>>129554642
>Porn has always existed
The kind of porn the industry makes these days is far more degenerate and revolting. With the internet, 10 year olds watch hardcore porn. Libtards like you will defend this.

>Men will always always always masturbate.
Nothing wrong with that.

>gaming is fun
>liberal bullshit
HAHAHA fucking retard goon.

>I'd never trade the years of 2004-2008 I had on WoW for anything
I see you already deleted your post, fag.

>>129554938
>all books are degenerate
>da vinci code
LMAO, illiterate, uncultured prick.
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>>129553466
How does this even happen.

I love video games, I used to think I played quiet a bit, but honestly I don't even play every week.

Like nigga modern video games are like 8 hours long are you just playing old Sega jrpgs or what?
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>tfw I buy videogames but dont even play them.
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>>129552768
Alright OP, I'll take you seriously.

>Did you quit?
Why would I quit the only thing that makes life bearable? I don't get along with anyone. The pay is substandard. I'm not going anywhere in life. I'm not proud to be American. America is going down the drain.
Why would I quit?
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>>129552768

I play video games and fap because I have nothing else in my life. No family, no gf, no nothing. I'm a 26 year old virgin. Being white is a handicap in modern America.
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The thing is I love 'good' videogames. I just can't be arsed playing games much anymore. There are no new mechanics, no new gernes. Everything feels dated & grindy.
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>>129552768
Learn some self control and moderation and stop thinking you can just cold turkey your way through life. Sort yourself out.

When young and your hormones kick in, it throws you for a loop. We get it. You want to fuck and fap 24/7. It's natural. Moderate it and see beyond it. Don't let it become a habit. As you get older and your hormones settle, you really wont be so prone to addiction for such things. Once you become an adult and start taking on responsibilities, you wont have time to wonder about what you don't self control over. You'll be too busy.

No stop posting this shit, it's a dead give away that you're an adolescent. No one reflects on this shit in college/+21 years old. Get a job. Get some responsibilities and you'll find you dont have time to dwell on such bullshit 24/7.
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>>129555060
>all books are degenerate
>da vinci code
LMAO, illiterate, uncultured prick.


and you are a pseudo intellectual scum

there is a video game about da vinci code so fuck you pedantic intellectual shitlord
its clear you know nothing about inteligence when you only use you ego filthy human
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>>129554448
>you failed to explain why i should quit
Because they are non productive and doesn't give you long term satisfaction.

The best game is real life, its a huge mmorpg sandbox with really intricate character development. You can play it as one of those autistic german work simulator games, an fps, a building game, a fps, adventure game etc. The graphics are top tier, the skybox is huge, the server almost never crashes or resets and unlike the mmorpg you play on the computer people will actually play this game in 10 years so all the time you sink into character development right now will still matter in a decade.
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>>129552768

Best way to quit gaming was to install Fallout 4 for me.

Barely playing it.
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>>129552768
I haven't quit but I play a lot less. A good videogame can, indeed, be "art" as in a representation of reality with things to say that reflect the world (The Witcher 3 comes to mind; it deals with cultural displacement and military occupation).

I think anyone should keep their media consumption at a moderate level, and try to consume things that have value.
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These are far from being the worst thing in our society
>fundamental religion
>complete dismissal of arguments based on "you support trump" or "fuck off shill"
>the societal impacts of your sexuality and preferences (it doesn't matter, no one cares)
>the overblown media outlet that spins any story it wants regardless of truth.
>the cult like followings of certain individuals like politicians and political commentators
>the rejection of ones own importance in a country as a citizen by reduction of their political view (e.g. who cares, at least our party is in power)
>complete lack of principle and overflowing hypocracy
>people blaming the system for their own faults.
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>>129552768
Yeah, it's not like racemixing or hookup culture are bad or anything. BUT FUCK VIDYA
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>>129555422
>you'll find you dont have time to dwell on such bullshit 24/7.
Eh, people don't understand how fucked up work is. And they still think they'll be able to work and read philosophy every day and discuss it with people online. Most of the time you're too tired to fap.

>>129555597
What's gonna give you long term satisfaction? Lifting weights? Watching Netflix? Shitposting on the internet? Fucking sluts? Most of the stuff humans do bores them eventually, but if someone finds that one thing that keeps him going after work it's worth keeping it. Once you earn enough money to buy food and pay rent, you're golden. If you wanna work 12 hour days so you can have your perfect wife or whatever, knock yourself out.
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I liked Witcher 3. 100+ hours, but besides that one game I've just been getting bored so eaisly.
One of the main goals off GG was to carsh the industry and flush the shitty games, talent & developers down the toilet.
That didn't occur and the industry is a bloated shit filled rotting corpse as a result.
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>>129553466
start engaging in a martial art
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How are video games and porn degenerate?
What is inherent in them that they are damaging to society?

I'm failing to see how you can say this, but give books, TV, plays, movies, actual sex, bug chasing, homosexuality, beastiality, pedophilia, and all the rest a pass.

Because ALL of those things existed before porn and video games, they they aren't the causes of them.

Please, elaborate your outrageous claim and provide examples for your conclusions.
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>>129555512
What does this blabbering nonsense even mean?
If you say all books are degenerate because Da Vinci code is crap, you clearly know nothing of literature.

Nice try, fag.
Your post is so void of meaning, it's pretty amazing.
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Beyond all things, I feel like people have forgotten what it's like to think and have different views, you couldn't last 3 seconds on here without someone calling you a cuck for not being a white nationalist.

The world is full of different ideas, people need to learn how to appreciate different ways of thinking.
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>>129552768
Porn is easy

But there are certain videogames that I would say are actually good for you to play. Grand strategy games and RTS. Along with things like Darksouls to instill a mindset of perseverance and self reliance.

If it aint made by a slav or jap don't touch it.
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>>129552768
nah, video games are fun.
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>>129555093
Are you aware you can play games on the internet now?
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>>129555859
I cant give up vidya 100% because that means admitting the medium itself is worthless. (ITS NOT).
Its just that for every Witcher 3 there are 10,000 piece of shit games that degrade everyone who wastes time making or playing them.
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>>129552768
I only play word and number games so fuck you.
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>>129552768
alright so i never really got into vidya
i only really played a few games
and i didnt jack off in the morning like i normally do, so i decided to no-fap til july
how have you been doing?
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>>129552768
I'm almost free of video games but that's because that they don't provide much pleasure anymore, when I play it's just to pass the time which is a horrible way to play. I'm still looking for hobbies but now I'm going for bike rides much more often, enough to justify spending a few hundred bucks on a decent bicycle. Porn though I'm fucked, sometimes I fap 15 times a day, it's ridiculous. Won't be able to quit that one.
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>>129552768

>Yes, this has social and thus political importance and impact.

please explain in detail for the rest of the memeboys in this thread
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>>129552768
play csgo constantly among other games and fap at least twice a day
no want to stop
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>>129556734
Dude porn fucks your mind up way, way worse than a 10-15 hours per week fantsy or si-fi game.
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On no fap day 2
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>>129554909
This right here. I was a book worm growing up and that's probably what ruined my life (prevented me from developing social skills as a child). When I quit video games all I do is watch TV all day. Fuck that. I'd rather play video games.
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Learn to control your urges and you can control your mind. Control your mind and control the world around you.

Porn makes you like things that disguist you subconciously
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>>129552768
I play vidya every now and again, and I quit porn about a year ago and haven't gone back.
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>>129552768
>Against porn
I'm onboard with that.

>Against games
Okay, now you're being a faggot, gas yourself.
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>>129553020
No, keep it up, Paki!
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>>129557186
Your mistake is you read shitty books.

Who reads fiction?
What is this shit?

Read history books. Philosophy. Nonfiction. Things that actually matter.
But what can you do, this is a thread where people cite The Da Vinci code as "book".
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>>129556318
>"no im too weak of a human being and i need my false sense of achievement and instant gratification hedonism"
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>>129557068
>>129557149

this, with my newfound testosterone i was able to spot out a vulnerable female up to 1 kilometer away
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>>129555995
>What's gonna give you long term satisfaction?
Something worthwhile that gives you unique memories, produces something tangible or just improves your situation over time. So hiking, mastering a craft, growing your own food, fixing a car, building something.
>Lifting weights?
If you like the idea of being fit, sure. But i would rather combine my physical training with something more meaningful then just lifting shit up and putting it down. Like gathering and splitting wood, working in your garden, digging a huge hole in your backyard and making a swimmingpool or just building something huge like pic related.

But if you don't some acres of your own land to work then lifting weights is a good idea.


>Watching Netflix? Shitposting on the internet? Fucking sluts?
No

>Most of the stuff humans do bores them eventually
So do something else
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>>129552768
What will you offer to people indulging in it instead? Nothing i suppose, so how you even dare to tell them what to do?
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>>129557536
Not the guy you are replying to but

>gives you unique memories
I have tons of fond memories from World of Warcraft.
>produces something tangible
You mean like my 70 hour per week job?
>growing your own food
My garden proves this is not mutually exclusive to gaming

I also fish, kayak, shoot, and play tabletop nerd games with a growing group of friends. Video games don't prevent me from doing any of these things.
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>>129557450
You're pretty much saying that you shouldn't bother to dream and stride toward the future of things to come, but rather focus on the past and use it to guide yourself, rather than innovating new technology into better inventions that serve to ease suffering and improve living, that's not very intelligent, you need to focus on both past mistakes and the dreams of a better future, one in which we have reached the final frontier, whilst remembering the history that got us there.
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>>129557450
Neither he or I said we read fiction. The only fiction I read was Lord of the rings and a few Harry Potter books when I was a teen. If you read a certain amount of psychology and philosophy you see life and people for what they are and it's not pretty.

>>129557536
I do tangible things when I'm at work. Walking around a hill in circles is not more meaningful than vidya. Why should I grow food if I can buy it with money I earn? I used to build shit from wood when I was a kid, shit was cash, but I grew out of it. Building that castle in the pic is just a massive waste of time and resources, much worse than firing up a video game. Every person finds some autistic thing to sperg about and one person's thing is not more valuable or meaningful than the other person's thing.

Forming memories with people you care about is all well and good. Sadly, every woman I ever cared about didn't even want to look at me. My family just gives me more problems than satisfaction.
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>>129557794

fuck off commie
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>>129552768
>quit video games
lol why?

I like to kickback with some video games from time to time. Maybe a few hours every couple days.

It's just like any other kind of relaxing activity, you can just chill and forget the bullshit for awhile.

>pic related. Playing this shitty NFS atm
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Porn is going okay right now, just need to make sure I don't cave in and watch some. Actually didn't like games anymore, but severance: blade of darkness has me hooked.
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>>129552768
I've no issues with video games as they haven't impeded my life at all. I remain healthy and social with a good balance. I use games as a form of recreation, a way to relax rather than staring at my TV for a few hours watching a show or movie.
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>>129558083
>I do tangible things when I'm at work.
Do something for yourself.
>Walking around a hill in circles is not more meaningful than vidya
The world is cooler then any video game and its good for your health.

>Why should I grow food if I can buy it with money I earn?
Because its good for you.

>I used to build shit from wood when I was a kid, shit was cash, but I grew out of it.
Because you never got any good of it. Try making something a bit more meaningful then the butter knife you made as a kid. Sitting down and eating dinner at a solid oak table you built with your own two hands from a tree that you sourced yourself is infinitely more satisfying then just buying a table at the store.

>Building that castle in the pic is just a massive waste of time and resources, much worse than firing up a video game.
>building something huge that will stand and confound people for millennium is a waste of time and worse then fucking around around an artificial world that some one else built for you.
KYS

>Sadly, every woman I ever cared about didn't even want to look at me
Understandable
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>>129555597
>Because they are non productive
Let me explain you one simple thing faggot. You will die in the end. So there is only one purpose of being productive - to pass what you did to your children after you die, except that there is literally no purpose to spend time at anything except hedonism.
And here we get to the point - right now there are incomparably less females fitting to have children with than there are men who want them. Most of these men will never have offspring no matter how hard they try, because there is merely not enough females for everyone. So if they contribute anything to society that discarded them, they basically work for other men offspring like gelded slaves, they are no different from some progressive cuck raising his wife's son. Most of them still have enough dignity not to do that, and here you come, and demanding them to be your gelded slaves.
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>this entire fucking thread
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>>129552768
Porn yes, Games never.... fuck off degenerate.. saying i should quit the only things making me sane in todays world.
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>>129558726
^this
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>>129558491
Why are you starting to talk like a nigger? Did I insult you or attack you?

Look, I don't give a fuck about oak tables and growing tomatoes. I don't give a fuck about some stupid castle some autist built. I also don't give a fuck about some guy who's all about doing super duper stuff in life, but currently he's telling people to kill themselves on the internet. And apparently, because I don't care about oak tables, women won't look at me. Thanks for solving all the problems in my life dude.
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Fuck that. Even if I get a girlfriend, I'm still fapping to hentai in secret. Don't care.
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>>129558004
>I have tons of fond memories from World of Warcraft.
I said unique memories, walking around and exploring the same small man made world and doing the same quest as millions of other people is hardly unique. There are places on earth right now where humans have never set their foot, and you choose to explore a limited and small artificial world created by other people.

>You mean like my 70 hour per week job?
Depends on what you work as

>My garden proves this is not mutually exclusive to gaming
>I also fish, kayak, shoot, and play tabletop nerd games with a growing group of friends. Video games don't prevent me from doing any of these things.
Good for you make.

I will agree that video games is at least better then watching movies or series. As long you don't only do that.
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>>129552768
Haven't played vidya in a while, trying to quit lemon squeezing, this is my greatest battle.
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>>129556237

For me you are a pseudo intellectual projecting your emotions to me .

I was comparing books to video games , for me if video games are degenerate so are books .

Books are a hobby like video games...

And you have books that are games...

Oh plus , most of the books are based in fantasy.

I like book btw and i like video games
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>>129553645
>They are the most unobstrusive things manipulating us. They are everywhere and around 24/7. They constantly poison us with small but steady doses.

It's funny, Achmed, considering how 4chan is around ten times more "poisoning" than video-games or porn. Don't even try to prove me wrong since you fucking ca't.
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>>129552768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCmpkf0r3I0&t=2s&ab_channel=Nill
Games yes
Porn no
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Well, do you??
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>>129558895
Wait you dont understand wiminz will only fuck you if you start making tables... duuuude better start working on that table
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>>129557450
news flash most of books written are fictions and fantasy books ....

It's funny cause now you are actually separating what is good or not in overall literature
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>>129556464
This is a little late but...
Why would I want to invite screeching turbo autists into my relaxation time?
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>>129558702
>So there is only one purpose of being productive - to pass what you did to your children after you die
Sounds like a good reason.
>except that there is literally no purpose to spend time at anything except hedonism.
What? That doesn't make any sense.

>So if they contribute anything to society that discarded them, they basically work for other men offspring like gelded slaves
Who said anything about contributing to society? Fuck that. Build something cool for you and your family, pay as little in taxes as possible to society.

>>129558895
Enjoy your video games mate, i am sure you will find a woman that will be very impressed by your leet skills and your 30 min of training a day body.
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>>129554938
>implying video games aren't a form of escapism
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Vidya is boring af to me now.

Porn is still nice tho.
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>>129558155
Oh shit me too.
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>>129559206
So you can beat them up.
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>>129559339
so are books, sports, and any type of mind dissuade
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>>129557450
>Who reads fiction?
>What is this shit?
Most highly successful people recommend you read about 50-50 fiction non-fiction btw
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>>129552768

I have been playing and using MS-DOS since I was a little fucker. Hard to stop playing those counterproductive videogame brainworms.. I try, but I hate so much the hipocrysy of this world that i need alternative realities. Fuck me, things gonna change.
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>>129559403
Mien nigga

It's a shame the handleing sucks so bad, but I enjoy painting up new cars and starting over for those cheese ass cut scenes

Updated: >>129559158
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>>129558980
We all saw what Harry Potter and Hunger Games did to a generation
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>>129559706
The cutscenes are indeed terrible.
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>>129552768
Hi dad.
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>>129559170
>Wait you dont understand wiminz will only fuck you if you start making tables... duuuude better start working on that table
Few things get attracted like a man that can create and build something out of basically nothing. It doesn't have to be a table and it doesn't have to be wood.
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Videogames in moderation don't cause anywhere near the damage that porn in moderation does

2 weeks clean of porn and feel great. hoping to make it lifelong.
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>>129559706
Painting up cars is my favorite part.
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>>129559862
Noporn only works if you have a gf and a happy life in general.

I stopped for a few months and it didnt do much at all. Sure, fapping all day every day is bad, but so is drinking water.
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>>129559727

For me it's mentally tiring to have to listen all this shit about hobbies and how people occupy the boring life they have with so called hobbies.

It's like if you don't have a hobby you are a no life or life has no meaning or something around that
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>>129555060
An autist who shuns all fictional literature has no place calling others uncultured.
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>>129559929
you're supposed to use the extra energy and mental clarity from noporn to actually do things that improve your life

of course if you do nofap and don't actually change anything else it won't "work"
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>>129559818
Few things im attracted to as are the wiminz that want normal life and children.. so hard to find today. I grown my own food, sell food i grow, plan to expand next year.. guess what... games helped me more than wiminz ...Soort yourself oot bucko
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>>129560061
>the extra energy and mental clarity
Here you again assume all people who watch porn are addicts who masturbate all day
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>>129559776
>pol mobile
I like your style

>>129559874
Nice anon. I try to keep mine real simple and 'realistic' for a street racer. Plus I don't have skills to do a fuckin skyrim scene. That shits dope
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what else would i do to relax?
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>>129556237
You fail to see that reading is just another form of escapism.
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>>129553020
its good if you do it, this thread is meant for whites actually....by all means paki please play more video games and watch more porn please help yourelf
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>>129552768
i quit both to focus on my shitposting career
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Is hearthstone a video game?
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>>129553466
literally me, in the last 10 hours i have only been pointlessly changing from vidya to animu, masturbating in between

mommy got mad at me when she went to work, she has to provide for me to waste my nights in front of the screen
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Vidya and porn are the symptoms, not the cause.
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>>129560154
You are looking in the wrong places. If you want a trad wife you have to be a trad man.
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>>129560557
communist books make more damage then vydia
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>>129552768

Literally indistinguishable from SJW bullshit.

>videogames make you violent
>porn makes you misogynist
>video games and porn make you rape monster

Fuck you.
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>>129560474
Yes, a shitty one.
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What inspired me to quit was that kike Eichenwald. Every time i get the urge to watch porn i just think of his slimy jew hands pulling his circumcised weiner while watching hentai with his adult sons. Never again.

I also started drawing and writing poetry instead of playing vidya, but i think it's turning me into a faggot, which opens up a whole new dimension to my porn addiction problem.
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>>129560632
I don't wan't a trad wife, there is no such thing anymore.
>A Swede giving me advice on wiminz
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>>129552768
>mfw jack off to japanese piss fetish rpgmaker games
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>>129552768
It's about to be Day 2 of my NoFap.

Still can't remove myself of video games
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>>129552768
video gam good ok bby?
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but star wars battlefront 2 is coming out
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>>129560875
>le epic flag maymay
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I only play open battlefield tactical combat simulators like Arama 3 for when the race war comes
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>>129553275
>>129553275
And that anon, is "defeatism" a side effect of serious hibitual cuckery
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>>129555865
this.
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>>129553606
Good goy go back to sleep desu
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I quit video games. I had a good streak for porn only on occasion but I'm really falling back into it.
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>>129553729
Video games are shit, i grew out of them at around the age of 17.

You need to realize at some point that its all fake. Some fat pasty virgin nerd literally threw together some code and made your game. The "exploration" is all pre determined. There is nothing new and unique for you to find. Thats what was always my draw to games. I liked rpgs. I liked exploring and finding rare treasure. Then you realize that it really isn't exploring. Millions of people explored this same area. The coders set this all up the way they wanted it. I completely lost my abilty to abstract.

I cant even watch movies. Ive literally not seen a single capeshit since spiferman 3 in like 2007. Its all a bunch of bullshit. Reading is more fun, at least whenever i read i create the world from the texts. Its my imagination creating the image. Its not someone elses. A million people can read a book but no one will ever play the scene out the way i did in my own head. Its mine... Yet when i play skyrim, im doing what millions of others all did exactly. Its so terribly depressing being so limited like that.

I have this need to do things first. I dont want to do what everyone else already did. I hate fapping to porn with millions of views. That annoys me. So i look for some obscure fetish actress no one has found yet.

Also, multiplayer. Once mp was standard in games, the stories become obsolete. The competitive aspect of games was the onoy significant part. But soon you realize all MPs are shit. The devs make them casual for children to play to its a total waste.

Gow 1. This kikked the casuals.
And gow2
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>>129552768
Everything in moderation. Except porn.

Vidya is only good in extremely small doses, like alcohol. Drink too much and you are fucked, it is preferable to not drink at all, but if you do, please drink moderately.
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>>129553729
Sell your console
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>>129552768
Yeah, sure, male entertainment is the problem in society. Not mass immigration, socialism, the destruction of the nuclear family, etc. etc.

Fuck off, commie.
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>>129561549
Console peasant
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>>129552768
I do worse things when I don't play videogames or masturbate.
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>>129561549
>he had a console
You where never a real gamer anyway
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>>129553155
Video games are literally a media specifically designed to brainwash white children filling them with self-hate & white guilt.
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>>129552768
>>Videogames

I'm addicted to League of Legends. Can't stop myself from playing every night and if I don't I start to develop anxiety.
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>>129561928
Rare finman :O
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>>129561463
>So i look for some obscure fetish actress no one has found yet.
Well aren't you the David Livingstone of internet porn!
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>>129561463

what got me out of books and reading was that I realized any world I created was ultimately destroyed the second that I stopped reading and all the effort, all the achievements that I made while reading that book were gone anyway. It's all fake achievements. Idk how you feel about books, but that's the same line of thought for me. I do think of myself in the position of these characters, very similar to what you describe about video games, exploring a story, exploring people etc. only to end up realizing that it is all gone in a second anyway. I guess the fact that somebody else made it all up is part of why it seems so empty too.
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>>129552768
I quit both of those for a few years now, you need to quit porn first and arguably it's the hardest, but it's doable and there are no health effects despite what other porn addicts will scare you. Here's a resource to help:
http://yourbrainonporn.com/

Video games are a bit easier to quit in my opinion, best to do it cold turkey, hardest part is leaving behind your online virtual friends and replace it with some online hobby

Basically, as time goes on, both will fade away and it will become harder to understand why you were addicted to video games and porn in the first place. Again, porn is harder because it feeds directly into your primitive brain, but you can and you should quit porn completely (and masturbation as well since your body will naturally do nocturnal emissions)

Unfortunately, I'm addicted to online surfing for pretty much all my life. Checking drudgereport every 5 minutes. It has always been 4chan and reddit for a time in between so hopefully I can quit this addiction as well but still hang out with you guys time to time
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Bump. I see this every night and it is a great reminder. Thanks, anon
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/pol/ really shows how riddled with teenagers this place is when you talk about quitting porn
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>>129552768
>17
>Done with Porn
>3 months after got myself a qt3.14
>Quit Videogames
>???
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>>129561463
>plays cod and gaylo
>wow vidya sux
Nice bait.
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>>129562326
You dont live in normal present world.. china is another planet...unless you're a proxyfag
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>>129562284
Porn addiction is a serious problem across all ages, it's only going to get much worse with the advent of VR/AR porn. Today, there is increasingly 4k 60fps porn. That is mind-blowing (no pun intended). When I was addicted to porn, 1080p was considered hard to get.
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>>129553155
For men they are.
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>>129561463
you are shit, your post is shit
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I've been addicted to porn for almost 10 years and struggle to get it up with real women.

How long do I need to quit porn and masturbating to return to normality somewhat?
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>>129561463
>The "exploration" is all pre determined. There is nothing new and unique for you to find.
This guy has a point >>129562426 since you never mentioned playing DoTA/LoL/HoTS

Also there's Starcraft, etc., but I digress
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I used to play videogames for about a dozen hours a day, now it's about a dozen hours a month. And porn is for simp faggots who can't get pussy.
Feels good.
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>>129561988
I love LOL too I put down games for years until I found League. But in all honest is has by far the worst community I have ever been apart of.

We can overcome it! It's not worth the hours and years it takes to be good and stay good imo
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Jesus I can't wait for you old fucks to die off.
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>>129561988
Be anxious then you fucking faggot,unless you face it it will never go away
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>>129562520
>How long do I need to quit porn and masturbating to return to normality somewhat?
Your mindset is wrong because inevitably you'll be comparing yourself against some metric and anytime you fail, you will excuse yourself back into porn addiction

You need to let go to porn completely. Let it go. I know it's hard to think about this. I always thought porn was my part of life. I thought my nightly masturbation routine is what helps me sleep. It's all a lie. Your life doesn't have to be this way.

First, you need to understand the way your brain works, the way addictions work. It will be very hard in beginning, but as time goes on, it will become easier. It's been years since I have done any porn and masturbation. I managed to get a girlfriend (not saying this will happen immediately, it didn't for me) and I have nocturnal emissions because I don't masturbate. I can tell you my life is better without porn.

http://yourbrainonporn.com/


“The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.” – Chinese Proverb
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>>129561928
Preach
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>>129562736
Thanks for the advice.
I always fucking relapse after 4-5 days.
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>>129560770
Pisst hey, your IQ is showing.
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>>129552768
>do both
>be earning six figures
>nationalist

yeah nah Achmed Kikenstein, worry about your own country going up in flames first
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>>129561988
I played Lol and pretty much played every and any Action RTS out there

I suggest you move onto HoTS (Heroes of the Storm) right now because the matches are MUCH shorter but they give you the same dopamine rush. I know you probably have so many IPs saved up in your LoL account, but you really need to let that go. Even harder to let go are your friends. I'm sure you've bonded with them, but I hate to break it to you, eventually they will move on. So either you move on with your life, or they move on as well.

Eventually, it should become easier to drop video game addiction altogether since LoL won't suck up so much your life time. Seriously, those games LoL/Dota 2 are a HUGE timesink. I hated it and ruined my life. However, hopefully HoTS will free up a lot more time. By this point, it's pretty much either your circumstances change or you do it through your own sheer will.
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>>129562977
His gender is also showing...what is your gender cuck?
>what gender are you? canadian?
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>>129560158
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Maddecent assuption, anon.
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>>129552768
dude never. if that's the ultimate redpill then I'll gladly swallow the blue pill all day
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>>129552768
>Quitting porn
Sure

>NoFap
No thanks, everytime I do that I spend the entire day horny humping random shit and sending embarassing messages to women who I think I have a shot with. Being horny is a great catalyst for mistakes and fucking your friends' girlfriends.
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>>129562863
It takes time and don't beat yourself up for it. But if you keep failing, you need to try different techniques. I find myself that knowledge is power. You also need to quit 4chan for now, I know it sucks to say this, but during this time you were very sensitive and there are lots of suggistive images on this site (even the blue borads). You are susceptible to any triggers.

Right now, even if I see pornographic image, it doesn't do anything for me. However, during the rebooting process it will definitely trigger you. Rebooting takes at least 90 days. You will need to completely revamp your life for 90 days, hopefully it'll be shorter but I doubt that. Read what other people did and you may need to take drastic measure if you keep failing because that's what I ended up doing going into "monk mode" for at least a month.
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>>129561928
It's a shame, when I was a kid pretty much all the video games I played featured white people being Big Goddamn Heroes killing aliens and shit. It's amazing how badly wrong it's gone in such little time.
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>>129563312
>t. nigger

Yeah for me nofap means having a solid interest in women. That doesn't mean being a complete retard, but it does mean taking the 'risk' of conversing with them.
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>>129563115
Go home reddit
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>>129563676
Niggers born in the third world don't learn english you dull lowtest fag.
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>>129563312
>No thanks, everytime I do that I spend the entire day horny humping random shit and sending embarassing messages to women who I think I have a shot with. Being horny is a great catalyst for mistakes and fucking your friends' girlfriends.
After rebooting process, you won't be crazy like that but you will still have that natural urge. I ended up somehow getting a girlfriend, I see this a common theme in NoFap. Now I didn't get a girlfriend immediately, in fact took years, but I have one now and now I understand why so many guys have such trouble with women these days is because of the harmful effects porn does on male's psyche. At least my opinion.
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Just deleted my porn folder. For the fifth time. This time its for real though I promise.
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>>129563042
but anon
fun is illegal
you need to work more
and take out loans
and give money to the banks
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>>129552768
IMHO it helped ruin my childhood, siphoned off a lot of my potential and weakened me in more ways than I can probably imagine.

For the most part I have quit, but it has been a struggle. I sincerely believe that the dopamine release by some of these games are more addictive than drugs or cigarettes.
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>>129563849
http://yourbrainonporn.com/

There is an hour long YouTube vid by these guys that explains this stuff. You really should watch that and educate yourself on how your brain works on porn addiction. Remember, knowledge is power.
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>>129563716
>Comes to /pol doesn't shitpost
>Calls others redditors
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>>129552768
I've been quitting porn on and off for fucking years, currently on a 6 day streak, as for video games I don't play enough to consider it a problem and I use them to keep in touch with old friends.
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>>129553466
check'd - it's dopamine addiction btw
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>>129563969
What video games did you play? For me, it was mainly DoTA/Dota 2
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>>129563797
I don't have any trouble finding a girlfriend, in fact I recently broke up with my gf of 3 years because spending all my time taking care of a roastie seems like the cuck way to go about in life.
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You know what's worse? The talkies. What's wrong with reading a line of text while a guy plays the piano? These kids are degenerates.
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>>129563098
>>129562635

Thanks guys, tomorrow will be the first day of no gaming for me. If I don't face this now its only going to get worse.

>tfw 29k ip
>0 riot shekels left on the account too
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>>129564054
Everytime you relapse, you need to take concrete steps to reduce your triggers. You need to educate yourself, reading more on porn addiction at http://yourbrainonporn.com/

I had to take drastic actions. Coincidentally, I was at a very low point in my life where I pretty much gave up everything. I decided to quit porn around this time as well. Basically, eliminitaed all triggers for some time. I think I even had no internet and minimal outside interaction. Looking back, it was very similar to what druggies do when they go to rehab center, except in my case I was holed up in a bedroom.

Rebooting process 1) takes time and 2) you need to treat yourself carefully. This means you need to eliminate all triggers that causes relapse. If it's internet, ultimalety then get rid of that for time being. If you're afraid you quit internet forever, then that's nonsense. I'm here on 4chan posting. I even can see pornographic material but I don't get triggered because I rebooted. That said, I still avoid that stuff.
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>>129564111
I hate to say it, but League of Legends. It is the embodiment of an 'e-drug' for me. The rush the first few games, pursuing that rush but only get a slight high, continue playing losing track of time all the while questioning if I was really having fun or not. Realizing at 4am that I feel like shit and feel empty, only to repeat this behaviour later because 'I was productive today, I feel good and I earned it.'
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>>129564077
eating and sleeping , everything you do its a dopamine addiction
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>>129553128

You all are useless eaters snowflake. People can do whatever they want with their time.
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I do not intend to become a fucking shaolin monk you know
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>>129564308
Jesus Christ don't spend your time in LoL of all things man. At least find a game that will teach you something or give you a new experience.
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>>129552768
holyu shit i just fapped to porn and looked at this site and this was the first thi...
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>>129552768
>implying moderation doesn't exist
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>>129564278
>I don't have any trouble finding a girlfriend, in fact I recently broke up with my gf of 3 years because blah blah blah bla...
Yes, I hear this argument a lot and a girlfriend is not the reason to quit porn. Everybody is different and I'm sure you're a natural which is why you can still land a girl even when you have porn addiction. This is why back in the days in the pickup/seduction community, there were players who still landed girls even though nearly every guy was addicted to porn.

At the end of the day, you cannot live without porn. You still have to look at porn every day. I don't need to. I'm free.
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Why do all "video game addicts" play 1 shitty game?

Like nobody ever has a crippling addiction to Rule of Rose or Killer 7 or PC-98 shmups or anything interesting it's just goy treadmill games.
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>>129552768
>what are drugs
>what is alcohol
>what are cigarettes

There are worse things to be addicted to.
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>>129552768
Who the fuck asked you anyway hans?
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>>129564547
http://yourbrainonporn.com/
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I'm trying nofap, a week in so far.

Still feel the same though, albeit much more aroused at awkward situations
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>>129552768
You're a faggot. How are video games and porn degenerate, when drugs cause violence everywhere you go.

>Drugs are consumed by niggers as well
>OP more than likely consumes drugs, and never mentioned it
>OP is a faggot
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>>129564390
Yep, you're basically working for that "high." Landing that perfect combo. The crescendo with your team's tempo. In LoL, you'd buy runes and characters to increase your chances of landing those perfect combos and getting that "high." I know all that very well.
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>>129564334
thanks man, relapsed hard last night and just felt like shit. I'll take your advice.
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>>129552768
Yeah because ranting about what people like that you don't isn't degenerate at all, you should check out tumblr you will find similar people there
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>>129564836
People get angry when the things they love is attacked. Porn and video games are a part of your identity which is why you're reacting the way you are. The hallmark signs of an addict. The first step towards healing is to admit you have an addiction. This is what they do in Alcoholics Anonymous. Humble yourself. Go look in the mirror and what do you see?
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>>129552768
>The two worst fucking things in our degenerate, decadent society.

Ok I can get behind choosing porn as one of the worst but videogames? There are so many worse things and you'd have to be truly moronic not see it. Obviously constantly playing videogames is bad, but it's no worse than constantly watching reality t.v. You can think of something worse.
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Everything in moderation. Sounds like some of you can't control yourselves without giving up something completely.
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>>129561928
>Video games are literally a media specifically designed to brainwash white children filling them with self-hate & white guilt.
How?
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>>129565093
>Everything in moderation. Sounds like some of you can't control yourselves without giving up something completely.
If you need to look at porn, then you are addicted to porn. Porn addiction is not porn binging. In fact, there is no such thing as porn in moderation. This is a very common argument to keep people addicted to porn.

Video games are fine as long as your restrict with playing with family or friends in real life. Many video games have built-in hooks to keep you addicted. I find Nintendo games are okay because they are not destructively addicting like most PC games.
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Terrible games at high prices has put me off gaming almost entirely. I started heading to the gym more and playing less. Still can't stop my impulse buying as I have a plethora of games I haven't even touched.
Porn is a lot harder to stop.
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>>129564640
>There are worse things to be addicted to.
And? Video games and porn isn't good just because there are worse things around.
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>>129552768
>Porn
As hard is it is, I am human and tend to fail, but have been losing Interest
>Video Games
No. To me it doesn't control my life, I'm a fighting game kinda guy, can't legally beat a mother fucker without consequences if I had a shitty day, but I can in the virtual world.
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>>129552768
> video games
easy af I have a small laptop that can't handle any games except solitare and I don't buy consoles because I'm not a fucking child
> porn
harder but if you have a job and a gf you will simply have no time for it and forget about it most of the time
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>>129561928
Compared to?
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i will never quit either no women would ever touch me so i need porn and there is literally nothing better to do than video games
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>>129564807
If you're serious about rebooting, you need to eliminate all triggers. You shouldn't be on 4chan in my opinion because there are many triggers. Even the captcha you solve, I see has triggers in them sometimes. Women in shorts for example.

You don't "try" NoFap. You won't get magical powers if that's what you're looking for. It's not like you can go and lift 500lbs because you didn't spank the frank for 2 weeks. Don't assume this or you will become discouraged and relapse back into porn addiction because you didn't gain magical powers. In fact, you may feel terrible for a long period of time until you finish rebooting process. Think of coffee withdrawal. This is about restoring your brain to its natural function, hence rebooting.

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/reboot_your_brain
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>>129552768
As if being On 4chan browsing B for Lolicon is any better quite autist
>>
also
> muh society
guess what niggers if something like smartphones the internet porn and video games ruined "society" and caused everyone to be an atomized autist that society was always shit to begin with
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>>129562234
That magazine was actually ok in the beginning. It quickly turned into an soulless advertising shitfest.
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wtf, i tried to post tips on how to block yourself from porn sites and i think i got banned. fuck yerself Hiroshimoot, you glow in the dark CIA nigger.
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>>129552768
I quit video games when I was 16, before my alevels, never looked back. It made be constantly amped up, angry and made me unable to concentrate. Its not a healthy habit, it fucks you up chemically, nobody should spend 10+ hours a day looking into a blue light and being basically high on adrenaline. Porn is also bad for you, fapping every day fucks with your sex drive and basically made be a faggot.
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>>129552768
How is posting on 4chan any different from that?
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>>129565050
>Go look in the mirror and what do you see?

Tv addict?
Politics addict?
reality tv shows addict?
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>>129565195
don't ask
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GAMES ARE BAD
THEY MAKE YOU MAD

repeat ad infinitum
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>>129565577
I agree with you. Only part useful was the circadian rhythm one because I have issues with my sleep cycle. Anyways, I didn't mean to post that image, read this instead:

https://yourbrainonporn.com/doing-what-you-evolved-to-do

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oFVOJf0TzY
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I would think Social Media destroyed society more than Video Games have. Porn and Social Media. Once things like Myspace, Tumblr, Twitter and Facebook got off all it took was a seed and boom.
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>>129565672
and what is someone like me who has absolutely 0 chance with ANY women supposed to do without porn?
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Games are a fun break from stress for a while. Should be seen similar to alcohol; something you do occasionally to let the edge off
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>>129565791
Online porn destroyed society. Men have been weakened, emasculated all across the spectrum. It's only going to get worse as more and more young boys are getting Hooked on Porn instead of getting Hooked on Phonics. Porn is now being filmed in 4k 60fps. They're working on VR/AR porn. I fear for the younger generation of males.
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>>129565800
What makes you think you have zero chance with women? Clean yourself up and smell nice and there'll always be some sloot available.
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>>129565766
games are good
they make you cool

repeat if you want , im not a control freak
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>>129565800
Nobody has absolutely zero chance with women even midgets have a chance are you a man or an insect?
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>>129565800
People like us have no reason not to watch porn. It's the younger people with some social skills or chance to get them that should quit porn to focus on other things.
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>>129565770
Does Erotic Hypnosis count as porn?
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>>129552768
this board reminds me people actually fucking think like this
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>>129565892
because im stubborn and would never change for anyone i believe no one elses opinion about me could possibly be more relevant than my own and have left long friendships over minor suggestions

that and i am fat ugly and have a small dick
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>>129565800
>and what is someone like me who has absolutely 0 chance with ANY women supposed to do without porn?
1) Why do you think you have 0 chance with ANY women and 2) Even if that's the case, you still quit porn because your body will naturally self-regulate through nocturnal emissions.

You will channel that energy to go on to great inventions, perhaps become a poet, a writer, a singer. Who knows. This is why many great inventions have been made by single men.

No woman ever considered a rich man ugly.
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>>129565936
It counts as brainwashing
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>>129552768
I don't want to quit you autist. Without porn I lose my sex drive and video games are not degenerate. They were even proven to be good under some aspects and are better than mindless TV.
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>play vidya till 9am
>fap over some mompov and blow a huge load all over my stomach
>get cleaned up lay in bed
>open /pol/
>see this thread
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>>129566063
Wait, so you're not only a bear but an ant as well??
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>>129555356
Blaming your situation on being white? Look atound you faggot, millions of white men with qts making comfy money and enjoying life. You personally are to blame for your situation. If someone did something to you that sent you down this path, it is on YOU to go fix that damage and reclaim your life. 100% your responsibility. Don't give me that muh anti white society bullshit muh why bother. Look around you.
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>>129566034
>perhaps become a poet, a writer, a singer.
let's be honest here, the successful one nowaday are porn writer and porn singer.
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>>129565884
No, I agree. Porn tore my life up, I don't want my children or anyone's children following in my foots. But I believe Porn and Social Media has destroyed society more than Video Games. With social media, we are so distant from reality. It took me a 30 day zucced from Jewbook to realize this. I had a pattern going through my day, spend hours on jewbook or Twitter. Once I deleted Twitter and got the ban, I deleted my jewbook, haven't looked back since.
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I dunno, I don't like how you smell. You reek of distinctly Bavarian "all or nothing" thought. Besides, they're trying to destroy our hobbies from the other angle too and I'm too suspicious of you being German and all. Looking like they'll kill gaming from the industry side anyway, everything for the next 8 years will have or have it's main character changed to a black man who is fighting literally_hitler.jpg meanwhile PAID MODS

>>129555865

Also, this. Arguably the worst thing in our society is intellectual dishonesty and the tolerance of intellectual dishonesty.
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>>129566034
>he actually believes i have any sort of worth or value to anyone

i have avoided learning skills and kept myself weak just to avoid anyone thinking i have any sort of value that wqay when someone needs help im the last fucking person they bother
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>>129565800
You'd need to give me more info about your situation for me to make any suggestions. not being on the computer all day really helps though.
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>>129552768
I have a long streak of hating video games. Sometimes I still play a few minutes of 1993 Doom for old times sake, but it doesn't take long until I just exit because what the fuck am I even doing?
>bla bla bla, click click click, wah wah wah
Meh.

Unresponsive piles of clunky shit, filled with glitches, bugs and other stupid failures. If I wanted to make something for the public to buy, I wouldn't stop until it's perfect. No feeling for honor, these degenerates.
Like my cousins bf. He shows me a picture on his phone, it's some colorful bars with numbers representing his high level in some online game where he had luck and some shit happened to make him level faster.
He shows me that picture as if I'm supposed to be impressed. And he talks about YT gamer relationships all the time.
>this dude had some beef with this dude because he merged channels with this dude and that dude over there has like this many views and subscriptions
>you really gotta come over and see all my game merchandise, see this figure? It cost me 180 bucks but it was still really cheap because it's a special limited edition

WHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT THAT SHIT?! GO PLANT A TREE OR SOMETHING! FUCK!
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>>129553020
Well how subhuman are you anyway? As long as you plan on not making inbreed children though it's got to be an improvement from the current reproduction atm in Pakistan.

How ever all that fapping is going to turn you into a low test nu-male, just keep that in mind.
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>>129565800
Stop watching porn and you'll probably have an easier time with women
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>>129566199
like there is anything else to do with my time

what am i supposed to spend any non working hour walking?

BTW i REFUSE to drink io REFUSE to smoke and i REFUSE to gamble so all of that bullshit is out
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>>129565943
Porn addiction is a real problem. Denying it only makes you complicit in the spread of porn addiction.

>>129566063
http://yourbrainonporn.com/

>>129566146
I know you're trying to be funny, but porn addiction is a serious issue. Lives are at stake here.
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>>129553729
It's simple, remove the temptation. I broke my video game addiction wen I went to college and left my consol. Focused on school, started working out. Did the same thing when I got addicted to adderall. Removed the temptation, flushed all my pills, never went back. Now if I can just stop my porn addiction. You can't remove the temptation Anon. It's too easy to get if you have internet and in today's world you need internet...
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>>129566284
funny?
Listen to rap music, read 50 shades of gray or what books are selling like crazy on google play.
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>>129552768
I haven't watched porn since April 15 2016, AMA
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>>129566257
are you mental? the only effect that will have is ill be a horney lonely loser instead of just a lonely loser cause her is still the problem of i want a girlfriend but no huiman being on this planet is worth changing for and an inherent part of a relationship is change band compromise something i am absolutely unwilling to do
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>>129566197
I'm not here to convince you or to win an argument against you, that's your job. I'm here to give you a message. It's up to you whether or not to receive it.
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>>129554593
I play vg and still have time to read books, go outside etc. ? what is your point?
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>>129565884
you just have to adhere to a standard and stop thinking about saving "generations" or "men" 50% of the population is obese as well are you worried about saving them as well? What about all the fucking heroin addicts? "society" is a 19-20th century fiction we are drifitng back towards feudalism in terms of politics, economics and society the high and noble caste doesn't give a shit what the untouchables and the lower cast is doing with their degenerate lives
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>>129563421
good advice friend, it's def hard to go cold turkey. I've tried at least 5 times and failed. But avoiding 4chan and media would def help. My biggest problem is I have a very vivid spank bank.
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>>129566343
Sex sells and porn is a multi-billion dollar industry. Problem is, you are a porn addict and you view everything through a porn and sex filter while I don't, which is why we're talking past each other.
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>>129564590
I don't need to I want to, because otherwise I get angry and can't control my anger. Its my release. I also do Golf, Go Karting, Working Out, and I have restless leg syndrome.

I have a girlfriend, and I play video games, and I work a 60-80 hour work week.

I also contribute to my fellow peers for about 20 hours a week and maintain about 30-40 websites.

Keep up kappa.
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This is just sad. You are you're own horrifying type of sjw vegan non gmo gibz me datz...
Men are men. Enjoy some candy for the eyes and mind. Vidya helps with hand and eye coordination..also it's a way to escape and live vicariously like a soldier or hunter without paying a price to the kike overlords. We don't live in the past where we can just stop and go live innawoods and defend the land of our peoples...it's kike owned. Everything. Gotta pay to hunt, fish, vacation, license this and that...oh wanna go lift and train to die for murica for the kikes? Fuck that bullshit. Oh, better yourself? Be paper pushers for the kike so you never leave the cage they've put you in?

Also, men are way more sexual than women are so feed that inner beast a nice meal every now and then..gonna be honest, i don't want my hubs to fuck me non stop...i rather be taken out on dates, flowered, pampered and be fulfilled emotionally. I love a good fucking and maybe bring in a helping hand visually... and physically for him. It works out he gets to feel alpha in a world designed to make him feel hated and scorned for being a straight white man. I get the benefits of fulfillment of being loved, treated with love, being and feeling protected by my man. Why not give him some small joys? Vidya and porn is not harmful unless it's absolutely out of control and debilitating but that can be from anything and everything that gives you pleasure..or even pain. Geez...have some vidya, porn, steak and a drink. focus on the goal of saving your people's from the clutches of the globalist pieces of shit.
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>>129552768
Man the fuck up and enjoy both without becoming addicted or leting it have any negative affect/effect on your life. Only weak minded cunts become addicted to porn or video games.
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>>129552768
>Videogames
Can this meme die already? The Civilization series is what was responsible to opening my mind to history, culture, religion, philosophy, politics, science, technology etc. It was the gateway to all my interests about the wider world.

And none of it would have happened had I not played those games and got to experience building a civilization and leading it through history.

Wouldn't have got that on the history channel.

So fuck off kraut, with your pessimistic shite. But then again, losing two major world wars probably gives you an axe to grind.

As for porn, only if you become an autist and fail to realize that there is a fundamental difference between porn and real sex will it give you any real grief.

I've never had any of the problems that people claim that porn gives men. And it's because I know what I like, I don't feel the need to crank up the stimulation, and if it begins to get dull, I actually find something else, and it's normally more softcore, not hardcore.

Seriously, everything in moderation, but a German wouldn't know shit about that, would ye?
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>>129561463
>I want to do stuff literally nobody else has done
Snowflake
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>>129561928
>filling them with self-hate & white guilt
What games have you been playing? Ubisoft products?
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>>129566030
Since you may be just willfully incapable of improving yourself and therefore your circumstances, keep doing what you are doing . Online meme activism is a valuable role in our society. Just step it up in that field as if you merely lurk, comment, and keep a few edgy folders then you are not tracking bike lock guy or fox pass thrower and merely use "bot your personal army" as an excuse analogous and akin to the other excuses you use towards other, less cyber aspects of your life.
The cyber is very important. Get good at the cyber.
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I can't remember the last time I watched porn or any of that rubbish.
I still play Rising Storm 2 Nam when I get the chance? I guess there's nothing productive in this so I'll try to convince myself to quit that too (waste of money to buy new games too I guess since you're only doing it to experience something new ergo novelty).
>Tfw 18 and already getting "too old" for porn and vidya.
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>>129552768
I quit porn not long ago and doing rather well, I still play video games like civ 5 but I soon get bored of playing them.
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I've spent multiple periods of my life without porn and vidya. It was supposed to be the best time of my life according to the faggot OP and other delusional nofap fanatics. All that bs about
>quit fapping and you''ll notice that you're no longer unhappy, depressed and tired, you will have good health and lot of energy

Fuck all happened. No noticeable improvements. Everything was just as before, except i was even more. Same goes for vidya.
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>>129566472
Maybe if you weren't addicted to porn and masturbation, you'd already be running a large company

I heard of a guy who was Olympic-grade swimmer, said he could've made it into Olympics but his porn addiction killed his chances and future. We could've seen his face on NBC Olympics if it weren't for porn addiction

Porn is destructive to men all across the spectrum
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>>129566700
>I heard of a guy who was Olympic-grade swimmer, said he could've made it into Olympics but his porn addiction killed his chances and future. We could've seen his face on NBC Olympics if it weren't for porn addiction

sounds like a little bitch making excuses
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>>129566545
>bouhouhou he spouke bad aboot me poukermans, better ouf insoult his houmeland
Degenerates.
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>>129566700
you sound like the yahoos who say shit like "dont take pain medication just will the pain away" and "oh you will be fine just go write a symphony while you still dont even know the basics of music notation"
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>>129566692
Image posted by an anonymous PhD to refute NoFap probably because they're probably a porn and masturbation addict themselves

Here are peer-reviewed scientific studies linking porn use or porn/sex addiction to sexual dysfunctions, lower arousal, and lower sexual & relationship satisfaction. Over 100 of them and more

https://yourbrainonporn.com/studies-reported-relationships-between-porn-use-or-porn-addictionsex-addiction-and-sexual
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>REMINDER
REMINDER
>REMINDER
The no-porn people are a fucking cult and they're trying to lure you into their fruity little club. Don't fall for it. Think for yourself
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>>129566368
You're horny because you've taught your brain that it needs its reward of ejaculation to get through the day/week. The problem isn't how interact with women, it's the fact that subconsciously think of women as things to get you off. And it's effecting way more than your sex life
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>>129553020
>he doesn't want 72 virgins
KEK
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>>129566239
Savage
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>>129566909
but i dont see women that way even if i could get into a relationship sex would be incredibly rare and mostly when she wanted it i would be in it more for the companionship than anything else
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>>129566783
Believe it

>>129566851
Yet you never read up on porn addiction and scientific backing on harmful effects of porn does on the brain. Again, I'm here to give you a message, not to win an argument especially when my argument is backed by science and research.
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>>129566925
but he already post on 4chan.
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>>129566819
Yes, I am degenerate. What you going to do kraut?
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>>129561463
You sound like a boring old cunt. You'll be a grumpy old man soon enough. You'll be worse than Dick Gregory.
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Excessive video gaming is a symptom of a valueless society. When children are taught to believe in nothing but themselves, why doing anything more than you absolutely have to?
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>>129566276
Yes, go out for a walk, i found i missed it when I did. As for the games, as long as youre alive, there is something better to do with your time. All it is is a way to waste time, a waste of something nobody has a lot of. You said said you were fat, so obviously dont want to be, so losing weight can be your thing to replace playing games. It feels great losing weight, it gave me a massive confidence boost and im no chad now but i still feel 1000 times better. So yeah, go out for a walk and see how you feel. You can do it man.
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>>129552768
Yeah but too bad about the smack and other assorted Downers.. but yeah...stupid porn and gamers...ruining everything I agree!
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>>129566700
>I heard of a guy who was Olympic-grade swimmer, said he could've made it into Olympics but his porn addiction killed his chances and future. We could've seen his face on NBC Olympics if it weren't for porn addiction
oh no! He didn't get to swim really fast on tv? What a huge loss for humanity.
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>>129567045
walking is boring and uninteresting though and it would make me tired for work i need passtimes that dont make me tired and allow me to save most of my energy for work
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>>129566500
i get so jealous when i see a perfectly tamed woman brainwashed by her man and parroting his world view so fluently. her core personality has been completely destroyed and replaced with something he created. i wish i knew how to do this.
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>>129567154
What sort of work do you do?
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>>129554938
Definitely. Fiction is a load of bullshit. The biggest self indulgent waste of time. Even the classics are quasi homosexual drivel
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>>129567015
Pray.
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>>129555667
kek this is true!
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>>129553729
I was always pretty awkward in my teens and would just stay home playing halo all day. I was drunk one night and someone I barely knew offered me some acid if I hung out with them for the night so I did that, ended up loving just being social for a change and could never go back to vidya.

It's still kinda frustrating for me now. 5 years later sometimes I would just love to sit down and kill a bunch of time playing games but I just can't do it any more, I lose focus too quickly.
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>>129567204
i am a night cleaner in a local restaurant essentially a janitor and i want to keep the actual doing of the job as painless as possible so i dont get bored and quit
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>>129552768
VG - yes
Pn - once a week or less
Replaced VG w/ books. I miss it, but I can't game in moderation.
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>>129552768
I'm currently attempting to quit both. Porn I'm finding much harder, I've basically already quit video games, I don't play any at all but I do get on xbox just to chat with mates
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>>129567362
>books

enmjhoy it when you read through the 5 or 6 out there actually worth putting any time into
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>>129552768
love this.
this is called indoctrination -- by older generations afraid of being replaced; and i love replacing the trash with something of value

Video-games r 3 mediums of art conjoined: music, art, and story telling

porn is nothing but a training session for how men should treat their personal-sluts

oh well tho
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>>129567435
are you retarded by any chance
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>"don't jerk-off and play vidya anons, it blocks all of your special energy"

>"I have science to back me up"
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With the pace at which society actually changes, hell no, not within my lifetime. Porn I can see the degeneracy in, but video games can be looked at 50/50 because they are essentially just entertainment. It could be the same as watching a movie but it being interactive. Change the culture to not resort to escapism first, then the dominos will fall from there
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>>129567463
no why would having an extremely limited set of interests make me retarded? just like to me there is only around 7 bands whos music i enjoy and the rest is trash to me
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>>129567306
Is there anyone there you speak to or like? Do you just go in, work and leave?
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>>129567486
You are the culture there are a million other faggots like you watching a blue screen for weeks saying to themselves "shiet I would be a knight or an explorer or a secret agent special operator if society wasn't so shitty"
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>>129564807
I lasted 19 days no fapping once. Accidentally blew my load on day 19 while washing the dishes. After that never bothered no fapping ever again. Why should I few ashamed of masterbating when if I don't do it I'll eventually just blow my load from being so horny at random times because my balls are so full. Also no fap increases wet drwams while are annoying.
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>>129567597
i mean i speak to most of the other employees of course but its just casual conversation nothing serious
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>>129567247
Oh, thanks. That's actually very kind of you.
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>>129567554
I want to clarify that I'm not angry at you, but at your attitude on porn addiction

Your personal situation is a different matter and I sympathize. However porn addiction is a real problem that needs to be addressed. All of us who are free can help you. We are here for you anytime

http://yourbrainonporn.com/
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>>129567430
http://yourbrainonporn.com/
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>>129566993
You might not, but your sub conscious does. Youre subconscious doesn't take into account the emotion of others and the needs of the world around it. If you activity thought all of your beliefs you would die of exhaustion (jumbled mess I know, but I dont want to write essays on pol)
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>>129567695
So youre not socially inept then right? Is there any career you want to go into in the future?
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>>129567757
>sluts dont want 2 turn guys on

lmao..... r u a virgin? mr psychologist (who doesnt understand the brain of a slut/gimp)
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>>129567045
>As for the games, as long as youre alive, there is something better to do with your time. All it is is a way to waste time

You'll waste it anyway. If not on games then shitposting on /pol. Time will slip through your fingers like sand, no matter what you are doing. Might as well enjoy it then, while games can still excite you.

>inb4 b-but i'm improving the world by posting here, it's different

sure thing, bud. Keep telling yourself that.
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>>129567662
>Accidentally blew my load on day 19 while washing the dishes.
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>>129567662
>Also no fap increases wet drwams while are annoying.
That's the whole point, so your body naturally self-regulates instead of you artificially stimulating yourself. PMO (porn-masturbation-orgasm) addiction is a real problem.

As with your spontaneous release, probably you were in rebooting period and you had some trigger or spontaneous reaction. I never have these kinds of release post-reboot and I've been PMO-free for past few years.
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>>129567922
>lmao..... r u a virgin?
Another futile attempt at ad hominem attack.
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>>129567883
not socially inept no a little akward though as far as careers not anything in particular just maybe something a little better than what i have now so i can get away from roomates and live on my own
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>>129567942
better hope that shit-posting on /pol doesnt follow the same path as 'games'; instinct goes with what is most exciting

i think we're all treading on very thin ice now
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>>129567757
If you quit porn you still need to have sex. Being pent up on no fap and not actually fucking or fapping for months isn't healthy either fag, so you're suggesting to a bunch of autists that they need to bootstrap and get a gf to fuck do the MRA alpha weight lifting good job b urself nice guy routine. Porn addiction is a symptom of men not being able to find women. Now try dealing with that second part fag
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>>129567942
the people who push this shit are convinced that they have an unlimited amount of healthy lifetime left, fuck em'
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>>129568010
How old are you and how often do you have sex?

I watch porn and fap maybe two times a week.
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>>129568077
i can fuck a slut and make $$ doing it

this isnt hard 2 figure out bro; u can do it too
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>>129567942
I cant guarrante im helping anyone, it took me years to realise id be better off doing something else so I dont expect to change someones life in 30 minutes. I guess in your opinion if someones addicted to crack we should just give up on them because they enjoy doing crack? You might believe you wont regret it, but when youre 50 and you realise most of your life it behind you and youve done nothing with it, youll regret it then.
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>>129566348
How? It's so easy to get. How do you remove the temptation?
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>>129566454
Help me Anon! How do I quit?
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>>129568102
Great, thats another thing you can work towards. All i can say is try and work towards something where you have more time to do something more with your time than video games and being on the computer. If thats all your doing it probably means youre not happy where you are and youd rather block it out. You need to strive to get to a point where you no longer feel you need to be on the computer all the time (although that feeling may not be conscious). It might be really hard but in the long term it can only pay off.
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>>129568010
Yeah but we dreams just means more shit to clean up. I'd rather give it a good jerk every few days to avoid this extra chore.
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>>129568351
Just read these fancy shmancy infographics and visit a website and voila! An Addict no more!
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>>129568675
the only other thing i even remotely enjoy is singing and i have no idea if im even good at it i dont want to find out cause i refuse to do things im not good at so i would rather remain ignorant
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>>129565093
>Everything in moderation.
Fuck off with that shit, Aristotle didn't have 60fps 1080p porn and video games in his time so it was easier to abide by that idea
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Moderation fags are the worst.
> I play games in moderation they are fun to me lol
When they say moderation they mean playing wii sports on the weekend for an hour or two. You moderate fags play hours of every major triple AA title to completion and then replay it along with playing some obscure Swedish grand strategy world conquest bullshit for hours and hours every week.
> but if every other entertainment is shit
> but everything is shit
> but I want my funsies
Most of the time there is no reward in doing the right thing
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>>129568227
>I guess in your opinion if someones addicted to crack we should just give up on them because they enjoy doing crack?

There was a reason why he/they are on crack. Probably because their lives was shit in the first place and not everyone "can make it". The competition is fierce on every level (jobs, finding a partner, business etc.) and there's not enough comfy places for everyone. It's only natural that some people cannot win in life.

>You might believe you wont regret it, but when youre 50 and you realise most of your life it behind you and youve done nothing with it

My life will be behind me with 100% certainty. Also define "done nothing with life". Different people have different goals. Unless you assume that every man MUST have a wife, three kids, a house, a high-paying job, a career and six figures in the bank and so on. And if he doesn't then "he's done nothing" and it's all because of porn and vidya.
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>>129568914
What sort of singing? If you enjoy singing im sure theres somewhere you can go and do it. Record yourself and see how it sounds.
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>>129569276
the thing is if i record myself and see how it sounds and i dont like it i will literally never do it again even if its not bad but i sound like a country or pop singer and usually something like stone sour in nature a little rough but not full on metal because in my opinion metal is just grunting and growling for no reason
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>>129552768
Video Games are an art form that expand upon youths knowledge and understanding of the world around them, if your kids are playing shitty games with bullshit morals and/or lessons then that's your own fault.

Porn is pretty fucking degenerate though.
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>>129569101
Im not saying you need to live the perfect American dream-like life. But playing video games all day is not healthy, you can have whatever destructive autistic "highly rational" views you want, Im not going to agree with you. Up until i was 16 all I did was play games, it distracted me so much from reality i didnt realise i could have it better off. Maybe some people are just better off playing games all day until they die, but i doubt thats most people.
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>>129568675
>All i can say is try and work towards something where you have more time to do something more with your time than video games and being on the computer.
>You need to strive to get to a point where you no longer feel you need to be on the computer all the time

You demonize computers so much then why do you even post here. You're wasting your precious time, you know, you could have been knighted by a Queen already or be a PM/MP probably, amirite? Ffs.

Before computers people who are now internet addicts were bookworms "wasting their time" in libraries. Which was also considered a bad thing. Or playing dice/poker/blackjack instead of vidya. Oh shit, they have wasted their lives, what a horror. They should have pulled themselves by the bootstraps and all become billionaires, presidents and kings instead.
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>>129569550
People don't get addicted to art. You don't see a herd of motherfuckers strapped to a Picasso painting for hours and hours late into the night for weeks on end surviving on Doritos and red bull
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>>129569749
>a Queen
The Quenn, sry :>
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>>129569749
Literally not saying that, I dont believe in free will, i dont believe anyone can just wake up and decide to fix their lives. Im going soon anyway, i have tests to revise for.
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>>129569667
>But playing video games all day is not healthy, you can have whatever destructive autistic

Who said anything about all day? OP and the likes of him are attacking vidya in general. Like even if you play a couple of hours a day/week it's bad. Same for fapping, they are completely against it and when you start to question them why they are also telling me that "if you fap every day it's bad for you".
But i wasn't advocating fapping/vidya all day either.
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>>129569767
Except people who are artists spend hours and hours of their time, creating art, there are people who go to stare at exhibits for hours on end talking about that art. Besides Video games are not paintings unless you are playing some boring as shit simulator game, Video games are an art form that combines things such as Music, Writing, Imagination etc into one technologically advanced type of art.

Writing is an Art, Paintings are an Art, Cinema is an Art, all of these things are types of arts that Video games incorporate into one medium, if you play bad examples of that medium then that is simply your own bloody fault for eating Jewish shit.
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>>129569767
People get addicted to TV shows and certain books though...
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>>129567184
Be alpha, you dumbass.
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>>129569437
Has anyone else heard you sing? What did they think of it? Not many people believe they can sing even remotely unless theyre stupid and you dont seem dumb. Im not saying go outside and sing to people in the streets, maybe just a relative. If you dont feel confident enough to do that work on something else you feel youre having difficulty with and maybe that will give you the confidence to sing. Ive got to go now man, best of luck, sorry if i couldnt help.
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>>129570020
People arent in this thread because theyre playing video games in moderation...
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>>129570048
Nah it's mass produced shit tested and marketed to the lowest common denominator. Plenty of other things combine visuals,writing music and interactivity etc like theatre, pornography( you even engage with it by stroking your dick) , (((modern art))), modern sports etc
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>>129553645
Fuck off Achmed
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>>129555060
Again .... Fuck off Achmed
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>>129570048

There is an entire new industry, which was created around videogames. Streamers, critics, reviewers, writers, developers, professional players (cyber athletes) and so on. A legit industry worth billions of dollars. In the near future we will probably see even further development of this industry.
Yet most people here still refer to the whole thing as just a hobby for manchildren and beta autists. Well...

>>129570357

No, apparently some people are in this thread mostly because they want to feel superior
>i'm not wasting my time on vidya, i'm better that you
>i'm not fapping, i'm alpha male. fapping is some betas

OP wasn't talking about playing/fapping all day long.
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>>129570857

OP wasn't talking about playing/fapping all day long. He just said that it's
>The two worst fucking things in our degenerate, decadent society

and demanded that people should quit both. And he offered no alternatives. As he's German the alternatives are probably just >wörk, more wörk
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>>129570857
You don't think it's fucked up how you just stare at fucking screen for hours? I mean once you remove all the bullshit about how it's good for your hand eye coordination or that it's an art or that it has some interesting stories or some shit you're just staring at a fucking screen doing fuck all and achieving fuck all. Even here you can delude yourself that you hurt some random stranger with your clever shitpost even an alcoholic gets to interact with the real world by breaking some shit or by telling a funny joke at a bar.

You yourself know that you're doing it to pass the time and that it's shit. Looking at it from the outside it's fucked up how people are just spending hours staring at screens where nothing is happening it's dystopian
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>>129565751
Just accept and obey
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>>129571224

>You yourself know that you're doing it to pass the time and that it's shit. Looking at it from the outside it's fucked up how people are just spending hours staring at screens where nothing is happening it's dystopian

fucking this!!
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>>129552768
>Porn
Yes. Porn should be banned and censored because it is degenerate and ruins peoples and societies life.
I still struggle with it and very rarely wank a quick one when im stressed the fuck out after hard day especially after stressed day at work.

>Video Games
No. Games can be productive, inspiring and can actually help people.
II play mostly hard strategy games like Hearts of Iron III, Crusader kings and Europa Universalis.
It helped me understand a lot about economics, resources and tactics. It also helped me learn a lot about history.
Games can also ruin peoples lifes but only if it's their only aspect of life which a lot of mongrel /v/neets have.
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