WE WUZ ECONOMISTS N SHEEEEET

I don't even need to state it.

But I will.

(((Krugman)))

>>129550389
mesopotamians had a credit system and a tax system, its clear as shit that adam smith didn't just invent a system where the incentive is to get more money in exchange for products and services

(((Keynesian)))

>>129550389
The idea of capitalism itself is nothing advanced, so this isn't surprising. The arabs made several contributions to fields that are relevant today, such as algebra. Krugman's a Keynsian shit-mouth though

>>129550389
Krugman is a piece of shit.

>>129550389
He was fucking berber.
Most of the niggers from North Africa arabized as in identified as Arabs.
Ibn Battuta, ibn khaldun etc.Arabs didn't invent shit.

>>129550389
Khaldun was based. He wasn't arab tho. He despised arabs.

>>129552484
Tell me everything.

>>129554234
Dude, I don't even know where to start.

>>129554234
he's worth reading

le muslims invented everything face

>>129554234
>xDDD breaking windows makes bidniss for da window man!

and just being a Jew who writes on economic topics that have nothing to do with the actual phd he got.

arabs stole all their tech from indians, persians, and geeks

they have no natural talents

>>129550389
Ibn Khaldun isnt arabic, he is north african

>>129550389
fpbp

>>129550389
My kosher detector is going through the roof

>>129556459
stop the arabization for north africans

>>129550389
Capitalism is a system in which money making and crass materialism take front stage, and all higher values are relegated to the private sphere, where they whither and die, leading the to death of people/culture/civilization that transitioned to capitalism. I'm happy to let the Arabs take the "credit" for this one.

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>>129550389
I recognize that name!
Is this the same guy that buys twitter bots to boost his nyt articles every sunday morning?

>>129550389

Adam smith applied enlightenment morality to economics

>>129550389
It doesn't change shit.

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>>129550389
>1 Post by this ID

FUCKING COME ON FAGGOTS.

SLIDE THREAD, MOVE ALONG.

>>129552620
>ARAB'D
Kinda funny tho berbers here wilfully define as arab they hate there berber descendance

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>>129550389
Master's in economics here.

This is, maybe, like 25% true. He did note what Smith called the division of labor, but did not use that phrase.

Here's the thing about Smith: a lot of what he wrote was already known. It just so happens that Smith wrote 1200 fucking pages and published it. Understand?

Thomas Mun, for example, could be the "founder" of economics with his England's Treasure by Foreign Trade. He wrote a good manuscript on how to aquire bullion through mercantilism. Smith critiqued a lot of mercantilism in his book however essentially by talking about the free flow of capital.

Anyways back to Ibn. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that "you do this and I'll do that" is more efficient than two people doing the same task at the same time. Ibn simply wrote about it passively where Smith REALLY laid out the process with his pin factory example and calculations.

Any questions happy to take.

>>129550389
>false narrative
So kikes are using our vocabulary for their revisionist history?

>>129556954
>"But why do we need a new narrative, rediscovering our past? The answer is simple: to avoid such superficial beliefs that Adam Smith (or Ibn Khaldun) is the father of economics, the development of economics started in the New Age to culminate in neoclassical thought, Khaldun already invented the Laffer-curve, the financial market effectively regulates itself or a big government is always bad for the economy – among others. Economists have to exercise self-reflection: the crisis of 2008 proved that gaps in the mainstream transform easily into policy mistakes."
This is a quote from the article. It actually makes me rage.

>>129556954
>>129557426
Also the article keeps referring to Smith as a neoclassical economist which is not true at all. He was a classical political economist. Neoclassicism didn't arise until the late 19th century. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

>>129552041
this

>>129550389
Arabs did most of the world's science up to the renaissance, not sure what you're trying to imply, retarded OP

>>129556909
It was a way to get out of paying Jiziah, Arabs continued to make non-Arabs pay Jiziah even after they converted.

>>129557891
>Arabs did most of the world's science up to the renaissance, not sure what you're trying to imply, retarded OP
>implying economics is "science"
Oh, boy. You can't be this retarded, can you?

>>129556954
How many Jews were in your Economic classes?

>>129552932
No, he self-identified as Arab, you might be thinking of Ibn Rushd (Averroes)

>>129557891
>make non-Arabs pay Jiziah even after they converted.
There's no jiziah (yet) here they just think arab is cooler is my guess

>>129557997

then how would be be able to scientifically measure IQ through economic statistics?

>>129556870
HNNNNGGGG where can I get more of this?

Capitalism is the natural order of man, nobody fucking invented it.

This is so beyond pathetic
I cant imagine someone who has actually read the wealth of nations demeaning it to so low of a level
Especially a noble prize economist

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>>129557997
>implying economics is "science"
Yes, it is, my retarded burger friend. It's a social science.

>>129550389
He's right though

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>LMAO DUDE XDDD, ARABS INVENTED CAPITALISM BECAUSE SOME BERBER SAID THAT PEOPLE SHOULD SPECIALIZE IN SPECIFIC FIELDS OF LABOUR XDDD

>LMAO DUDE XDDD. THE CHINESE INVENTED SNIPER RIFLES BECAUSE SOME CHINESE SOLDIERS BLEW THEIR HANDS OFF LIGHTING FIREWORKS AIMED AT MONGOLS XDDD

>LMAO, DUDE XDDD. BLACKS WERE MASTER CLASSICAL COMPOSERS BECAUSE MOZART ONCE FARTED IN A NIGGERS FACE XDDD

This is honestly how the leftist mind works. Everything is by association when it's advantageous to non-white, Christian, straight men with disposable incomes.

Stop giving them the attention they so desperately require. Krugman is a fucking hack who hasn't done a fucking thing in the field of economics since 2008.

>>129556909
Berbers are garbage. That's why

>>129557891
>Arabs did most of the world's science up to the renaissance, not sure what you're trying to imply, retarded OP
Most science was still made by Byzantine Greeks, but yeah, Persians and Berbers in the caliphate did a great job back in time

free market and free trade creates the most growth in countries compare chile to venezuela and hong kong to other countries. search up the heritage foundation

>>129557891
They "reinvented" (stole) ancient greek sciences, you goatfucker

>>129558587
Why are you so mad, semenface

>>129558672
How does one "steal" science, semenface

>>129558672
>NO WE WUZ

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Was Ibn Khaldun /OURGUY/?

>>129558521
>>129558594
>>129558684
>>129558725

Why do your people fuck their cousins en masse, pray to a pedophile, and wipe your asses with your left hands?

Serious question.

>>129558857
BASED MUSLIM

>>129558725
By conquering the areas that house all of the records previously controlled by the Holy Roman Empire you yank fuck.

>>129558672

They stole shit, but it wasn't just the Greeks. They were stealing from the Phoenicians, Romans, Persians, and Anatolian's.

>>129558725
By taking credit for other peoples work, you fucking mongoloid. Tell me, are you retarded, anon? How come I have to tell you how you can steal science? Are you really that fucking dense? Holy shit, american education everyone!

>>129558961
Why do your people let blacks fuck their wives, raise daughters to be literal prostitutes, and inject heroin all day

Serious question

>>129559065
>>129558993
And if Islam and the Islamic world are so fucking fantastic. How come nothing of value came out of that region for the next millenia after that so called "Golden Age" of Islam.

>>129558086
A few.

>>129558363
Wut. You can use statistics for a lot of things? Are you talking about econometrics.

>>129558518
Oh my... he did it. He posted it. """Social""" science. Just like every subject in the humanities, right? Sociology must be a science too according to you.

>>129559112

>Every Arab country a literal bombed shithole

>"He's right though"

>>129558993
So by your logic I'm stealing science by learning something somebody else found out

Literal semenface logic

>>129559098

Muslims acknowledge that they inherited knowledge from the Greeks though. What have your cuck tundra people invented or contributed to civilization besides oil

>>129550389
What use did these sandmonkeys have to us? Oh, that's right, none. Or we'd have remembered him. Thanks for nothing Muslims. We uplift you from the era this nigger lived in and you try to rewrite our history as if we're stupid enough to think you and I share any relation in development or that you helped us in any way.

>>129558651
>Most science was still made by Byzantine Greeks
No, it wasn't, Greek philosophy was banned in the whole of Christiandom, Arabs/Muslims were the only ones utilizing it in their work.

>>129558672
>They "reinvented" (stole) ancient greek sciences, you goatfucker
You obviously don't know shit about science history, snownigger

>>129559188
Not all social science is equal, and considering that "science" was not yet invented back then (it was still called "philosophy"), your argument is moot.

>>129558993
>Holy Roman Empire
>Muslim conquest
Burger education at its finest.

>>129559253
>Nobel
>Hejerdal
>Nansen
>Ibsen
>Bjerknes
>Sophus Lie
Those are just the top of my head

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>>129556954
Who you vote for?

>>129559249
Yeah lots of bombs dropping on Dubai, Riyadh, Manama, and Casablanca lately

Why do whites raise their daughters to literally be prostitutes though. Do you guys turn your girls out super young or something. I honestly don't get it

>>129559253
Do Muslims acknowledge that if not for our charity they'd be living in the dark ages? No. They simultaneously brag about turning Eastern Rome into the asshole of Earth and complain their countries are so dogshit then move to our countries.

HOLY SHIT! All these sandniggers REEEEEEEEE'ing because we call them out on being spineless thieves hahaha! Just like how they get all ornery when you call them out on dat dere pedophile warlord
Go fuck a toddler, Abu Hajar

>>129559356
>literal whos: the post

Getting rowdy online now that you're getting more than 2 hours of sunlight a day are we, nils

>>129559432
is a good example of, >>129559472

Ibn Khaldun was our guy and pretty based. That said he didint really say the same stuff as Adam Smith

>>129550389
Arabs weren't black.

>>129559432

Yet, it's your daughters who are the ones who get ass raped by their uncles and fathers before the age of 4.

Interesting.

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>>129556355
>arabs stole all their tech from...geeks
wtf i totally love star wars now

>>129552041
Adam Smith didnt invent anything he merely articulated his observations of economic system as he saw it.

>>129559472
>our charity
Yeah charitable bombings and supporting terrorists. I'm sure they can't thank you enough

Is this the best your meth addled brain could come up with

>>129559336
Okay, I'll lay it out for you since the average IQ of Egypt is 81.

You said, "Arabs did most of the world's science up to the renaissance," in reference to OP's original post which has a picture of Ibn. Economics (what we would call today), classical political economy (Smith's time), or whatever system Ibn was describing... none of it is science.

Are you really that retarded? You know we have ids on this board right?

>>129559580
Why do whites rape their daughters at the age of 2 and call it some rite of Odin or some other gay shit like that

Also why are whites so keen to push sexual degeneracy on everyone

>>129554234
>Paul "the internet is going to have as much economic impact as the fax machine" Krugman
If you want a case study of jewish nepotism he's it. straight up marxist tier economic illiterate

>>129559613
Listen, you people terrorized Western civilization for 1400 years. You faggots were raiding the Mediterranean for over a thousand years, slaughtering and enslaving any infidel traders you came across. You made life difficult on the all of Europe forever, and invaded it repeatedly. I personally haven't done shit to you, but I wish we'd bomb your fucking people to glass you worthless fucking faggots.

>>129559521
>literal whos
>Ibsen

Go read a book once, instead of watching dat dere netflix all day

>>129559723
>Muslim subhuman worships a literal pedophile
>Tries to call others pedophiles

>>129552451
>The arabs made several contributions to fields that are relevant today, such as algebra.
Not really. Most contributions that muslims have made are over-hyped shit. And what little "the Golden age of Islam" actually did invent, most of those were made by non-muslim communities living under muslim rule (muslims have since destroyed those communities however)

Mongolians 300 years prior took the idea of paper cash from the Chinese.

goatfuckers BTFO!!!!!!

>>129559636
>average IQ of Egypt is 81.
Yeah honestly these are super outdated measurements from a time where nutrition and access to education in the developing world was absolutely abysmal

This is no longer the case and it's the reason why whites are now losing so badly in globalization

>>129559792
Every """"""""""""""""""contribution""""""""""""""""""" wasn't even of Islam, or Arabs, it was all Persians, who had a better civilization before Islam.

>>129559745
American education: the post

>>129559752
>doubling down on his literal whos

>>129559773
>white heroin addict worships pornography and first person shooter games
>is talking trash online

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>>129559745
Mongols assraped them, but western Europe was saved by a miracle. If there is a god, he clearly likes us better.

>>129559975
At least use a proxy you cuck.

>>129552620
>>129552932

Literally none of the innovation of the islamic Golden Age came from Arabia. After Muhammad, Arabia developed into a shithole. All the insights and works came from Persia, Spain, Near East, and sometimes in North Africa.

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>Not everything in the islamic caliphate created by Persians, Assyrians and Berbers

Arabs literally didnt do shit in the caliphate and collapsed pretty quickly militarily, then the Turks and Persians regained control of these empires and caliphates.

adam smith did not invent capitalism! fucking retard (((krugman))) He just explained thoroughly how it functioned. and made a few recommendations

>>129560086
>cuck
>coming from a literal Arab who thinks he's european

>>129559975
>>white heroin addict worships pornography and first person shooter games
the difference is that you cant objectively know that whereas we all know mohammad is a pedophile. Hilarious how you say whites spread sexual degeneracy considering your pederesty and the fact Iran is 2# in the world for sex reassignment surgeries

>>129559975
>doubling down on his ignorance and retardation
Yes, good goy, keep consuming braindead media, remember to buy a fidget spinner and never think for yourself

>>129560147
>Arabs literally didnt do shit in the caliphate and collapsed pretty quickly
Arabs were the military caste and the caliphate lasted for some 800 years

How you can be this insanely stupid while putting forth falsehoods so confidently is truly baffling

>>129560298
Source? Rashidun, ummayids and Abbasids lasted for like 200 years.

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>>129559636
Then you should have specified NATURAL science, you fucking retard.

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>>129560186
You got butthurt quick.

>>129560218
I can actually ascertain with greater certainty that you're a porn addicted video game player than you can say big mo was a pedo though, cletus

>>129559836
>in the developing world
>the developing world
>developing world
>egypt
One of the oldest civilized regions on Earth and trust Muslims to take it back to an era before irrigation
>>129559975
>be butthurt Muslim shitbaby
>get shat out in the hellhole of Islamic society
>run away to America where there is the opportunity to be something because it is not Muslim
>fuck America"
>>129560050
Europe was devastated by 2 of the biggest wars in history. It's time to face the facts and realize Muslims are just all around terrible people.

>>129560367
Again, the fact that you can't do a Wikipedia search while saying such stupid shit is astounding

>>129559586
Adam Smith didn't just do that though. He's the reason we moved away from mercantilism, and the foundation of Economics on a global scale.

>>129560411
Hahahah its an objective fact you inbred while your opinion isnt :^)

>>129558366
minus 8 but i heard the faggot deleted all his shit (again)

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT THE ISLAMIC GOLDEN AGE THE MONGOL NIGGERS RUINED EVERYTHING
>The books from Baghdad’s libraries were thrown into the Tigris River in such quantities that the river ran black with the ink from the books.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Wisdom
FUCKING SAVAGES

>>129550389
Too bad for these KANGZ that this arab, just like Smith, propagated for an economic system that would fuck welfare cunts like them over.

>>129560518
If Islam and the Islamic Golden Age was so great they'd have repeated it :)

>>129550389
(((Crapitalism))) is non white confirmed.
No wonder they love Semites so much

Import more refugees for the economy goyim. Open the gates for the mexicans

>>129560416
>trust Muslims to take it back to an era before irrigation
Muslims invented many irrigation techniques though, semenface

Why do you live in this spastic world where Islam is like this ultimate evil that destroys everything. It's almost as if you're an unemployed autistic who learns everything from other autismals on youtube

And you make your own way under capitalism, faggot. There is no charity in the American system and this country will make you a slave if you let it.

I'm sure a faggot like you knows this well

>>129550389
krugman means krug-man or "round man", his family originated in russian empire.

round jew man is a trotskistic commie in disguise.

>>129560646
It's pretty easily observable how the societies that existed prior to Islamic conquest had a higher standard of living, were generally more intelligent than Muslims, and held more coherent societies, though being literally thousands of years ago. Fairly simple Elementary grade stuff but I wouldn't expect a Muslim monkey to get it. They actually take pride in how hard they fucked up the Fertile Crescent, somehow, through feats of impressive mental gymnastics.

>>129560583
Ottoman Empire was one of the strongest powers between the 14th and the 17th century. Islam can create successful (if fucking destructive) and scientifically advanced societies, as long it's not run by inbred camel fuckers.

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>>129560218
DELEYT PISS

>>129554234
Thinly veiled marxist who was given a platform by the left and proped up as some kind of economic god.

That's the basic gestalt

>>129560778
You've literally never read literature on Islam, Islamic conquests, or the empires that preceded them though. How would you know this, semenface

>>129560795
Turks are some of the hardest LARPers on Earth, they are a people whom breeded themselves out of existence turning Anatolia into the Mexico of the Near East because collectively they wanted so hard to be Roman. Who knows, maybe if they'd have not chosen Islam they'd have become something warranting some form of credence or respect, but we all know they wouldn't have gotten far without the declaration of a Jihad every century.

>>129560912
The irony being that it's your dogshit people who are by majority ill read and illiterate. What would you know streetshitter.

>>129559336
>No, it wasn't, Greek philosophy was banned in the whole of Christiandom, Arabs/Muslims were the only ones utilizing it in their work.

Byzantine science played an important role in the transmission of classical knowledge to the Islamic world and to Renaissance Italy, and also in the transmission of Islamic science to Renaissance Italy.[1] Its rich historiographical tradition preserved ancient knowledge upon which splendid art, architecture, literature and technological achievements were built.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_science

Know your place

>>129560932
This is probably the dumbest shit I have ever read

>>129560778
The living standards of Western Europe has also degraded with the fall of the Roman Empire thanks to centuries of Germanic and steppe nomad invasions. Actually the Muslim world was scientifically more advanced and had better living conditions in that time period.

>>129560978
It's not really ironic because I've actually read enough to know you're full of shit and you know I'm right too

Lol whites getting fucking mangled ITT

>>129550389
>it's a "some non-Western faggot came up with a small part of a later, detailed theory without actually influencing the world" episode

This is the same bullshit as when they claim some Persian "invented" the atom bomb because he reasoned splitting the smallest particle would release a lot of energy, or that the Assyrrians "invented" the tank because they had armoured battering rams.

Also, dude has huge eyes, holy shit.

>>129561031
Are you mad, roach? It's generally accepted fact that the subhuman Turks wanted terribly to be considered Roman.
>>129561032
Let's not get hasty, Islam brought nothing. Geography dictates that access to silk road was for the longest a huge resource in transmission of information. You don't think Turks actually invented the cannon, do you?

You have a choice, Egypt in 30BC or Egypt today, you can never leave until you die, which do you choose?

>>129561142
>self confessed muslim
>cant identify the shit between his own ears

>>129558857
>nice piece on Ibn Khaldun, who anticipated /pol/ by centuries

>>129560932
Why are Turks the first thing that comes to your burger mind when people talk about ottoman? True, Turks were the majority but it was a non homogenous society, there were sultans who despised Turks

>>129560932
Modern Turks are pure cancer. The Ottoman Empire was legit efficient for centuries, but they have utilized a huge number of conquered people to run it. The bureaucrats were mostly white, the Sultans were basically white due to the constant breeding with women from the Balkans and their strongest military unit was formed by white slaves.

>>129561271

>
Are you mad, roach? It's generally accepted fact that the subhuman Turks wanted terribly to be considered Roman.

This is true. After they took Anatolia from the Byzantines (Eastern Roman Empire), they called their new state the "Sultanate of Rum" (Rome).

>>129561142
you know what im gonna go ahead and be the historian faggot, islam did have some books and shit ive seen a documentry of what they had all these arabic books found in north africa hundreds maybe thousands of them. They invaded spain and had mosques on the sides of rocks and shit. Islam had plenty of shit like the europeans did but, im not trying to be the opposing side i dont want an argument because i dont know shit. Maybe islam did purge europeans and take the shit or maybe islam just bought technology from people traveling by or slaughtered Indians and brought it back

>>129561370
They are more like Mexicans of the Mediterranean
>>129561361
You speak their language seaspic

>>129561271
>Egypt in 30BC
Yes I want to live in an era with literally no medicine and life expectancy is 30 years of age, where 90% of the society are slaves being beaten and raped into submission, and whose ruler is some hideously deformed monster bred through generations of mandated brother-sister incest

>muh pyramids

>>129561271
No, Turks haven't invented the cannon but they have utilized such inventions better than contemporary European powers. And they gladly employed Europeans in their armies to operate their artillery.

>>129561271
>Are you mad, roach? It's generally accepted fact that the subhuman Turks wanted terribly to be considered Roman.
How come I have never heard of this? I despise both "Modern" Turkey and Ottoman Empire yet that sounds fucking pathetic, Osmanli would never have such desire to be considered as "infidels". You are butthurt about İstanbul but it was merely a display of power

>>129561370
Please just stop with this shit. Nobody is calling Hungarians names. There are many good turks

>>129561529
Lmao, Turks contracted European engineers for their best artillery.

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>>129560778
>It's pretty easily observable how the societies that existed prior to Islamic conquest had a higher standard of living
kek, not defending Muslims, but you obviously know jack shit about Roman/Byzantine era Middle East, don't expect much from burgers though.

>>129560795
Ottoman Empire was shit, and is the main reason the Middle East is such a shit show, forget about the Mongols and the House of Wisdom, the printing press was the greatest invention of the Middle Ages, and the retarded Ottmons never bothered to introduce it to the empire for 400 fucking years. Pic related is height of Ottmon ingenuity.

>>129561002
>Byzantine science played an important role in the transmission of classical knowledge to the Islamic world and to Renaissance Italy
From your own damn source:
>During the Middle Ages, there was frequently an exchange of works between Byzantine and Islamic science. The Byzantine Empire initially provided the medieval Islamic world with Ancient and early Medieval Greek texts on astronomy, mathematics and philosophy for translation into Arabic as the Byzantine Empire was the leading center of scientific scholarship in the region at the beginning of the Middle Ages. Later as the Caliphate and other medieval Islamic cultures became the leading centers of scientific knowledge, Byzantine scientists such as Gregory Choniades, who had visited the famous Maragheh observatory, translated books on Islamic astronomy, mathematics and science into Medieval Greek, including for example the works of Ja'far ibn Muhammad Abu Ma'shar al-Balkhi,[7] Ibn Yunus, Al-Khazini (who was of Byzantine Greek descent but raised in a Persian culture),[8] Muhammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī[9] and Nasīr al-Dīn al-Tūsī (such as the Zij-i Ilkhani and other Zij treatises) among others.[10]

They were essentially librarians.

>>129561271
>Only one Sultan calls himself Roman emperor ( Mehmet the second)
>TURKS ARE BIGGEST LARPERS ON EARTH THEY WANTED TO BE ROMAN N SHIEEETTT
No cared about being Homosexual R*man except Mehmet the Conqueror stop telling people fake history if you can prove that we had been larping as R*mans AFTER the reign of Mehmet prove it

>>129561529
Some 40% of the ottoman subjects were Christians

>>129561465
Mexicans are perpetual losers who have wasted every opportunity they have had since they got their independence. Turks are usually rather pragmatic and opportunistic. They have nothing in common other than having decent food and a varied skintone.

>>129561510
>no medicine
Egyptian medics were famous at the time. If anythign islam dumbed down egypt.

>>129550389
But I thought they hated capitalism

Why are they trying to take credit for it

>>129561465
You are a fucking moron. I guess it is easier to just come up with constant bullshit rather than make research

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>>129561510
>Muslim education
Off by a couple thousand years, not like you'd be able to tell, that's about how far back you're living with that regressive ideology of yours.
>>129561572
>Ottoman claims
>Sultan Mehmed II the Conqueror with patriarch Gennadius II depicted on an 18th-century mosaic
>After the fall of Constantinople in 1453 AD, Mehmed II declared himself Kayser-i Rum, literally "Caesar of Rome".[8]
Don't worry, being a Muslim I inherently expect you to be retarded.
>>129561574
>There are many good turks

>>129561686
>Egyptian medics were famous at the time
Yeah famous at a time when cutting edge medicine was beating spirits out of people with clubs

>>129561510
>Yes I want to live in an era with literally no medicine and life expectancy is 30 years of age, where 90% of the society are slaves being beaten and raped into submission, and whose ruler is some hideously deformed monster bred through generations of mandated brother-sister incest
Holy shit, are all burgers this retarded?

>>129561671
>Mexicans are perpetual losers
Basically like Turkey

>>129561783
Uh oh, Cletus is bringing out the fuhrer gifs

>>129561806
He's our token Muslim

>>129561638
You said that Christendom forbid science, while Byzantines still did their job desu
I never said that the muslim world was not scientifical, I just stated that Byzantines still managed to carry on their scholarships
Also, this interaction between both worlds was fascinating
But as you stated, science in Islam died because Ottomans never cared about Sophism

>>129561785
Sounds like the Middle East today. Not much has changed, then, thanks Islam!

>>129561574
I'm not defending Turks, we have every historical reason to hate them, but you shouldn't underestimate the capabilities of Islam.

And we don't consider ourselves Turks.

>>129561636
>>129561662
Yep. As I've said, they were very pragmatic and were driven by an ideological system of conquest and subjugation. If Germans end up Islamised, we are fucked.

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>>129561785
>Yeah famous at a time when cutting edge medicine was beating spirits out of people with clubs
pictured here, spirit-beating clubs

>>129561806
I stopped paying close attention to his posts like 20 mins ago. I don't care.

Point is I'd rather live in any third world country than live 2000 years ago

>>129561956
>the capabilities of Islam.
Islam is not some monolith and the metaphysics of the religion have evolved drastically over time

For example the Islam practiced under the ottoman vs the Islam that predominates today are effectively different religions

Arabs (muslims specifically) actually WUZ SCIENTIZTZ AND SHIEET
If you don't know that you're mentally retarded

>>129561783
You are a fucking retard. You are mentioned it as if he claimed to be Roman, he humiliated you cucks since he conquered Constantinople. They didn't give a fuck about Romans or anything

>>129561818
They did well during Gallipoli, retook a lot of clay taken from them and given to Greeks by the abominable post-WW1 treaties, managed to stay out of WW2 and became a very relevant power in the Middle-East. Constantly underestimating everyone else always ends up in failure for you, burgers.

So tired of leftists.

Uh guys, white history doesn't exist, we need to ignore it!

But non-whites have rich cultural history that is deserving of our attention, they are the true wise men.

>>129561965
Yeah cutting edge shit like pulling the brain of my inbred God king out of his nostrils when he died from gangrene

>>129562154
I am pretty sure you are the one humiliated having turned out so mediocre and embarrassing as you have and then getting farted on as hard as you were at the dismantling of your dogshit empire.

>>129550389
>see some anti-white shit
>look up the author
>it's a kike
EVERY TIME

>>129562073
Depends on the fiqh afaik. But Ottomans were Hanafi and they are more prone to broader interpretation than the rest of the Sunni schools. Salafi Islam is not really different than it was centuries ago.

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>>129562320

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>>129562335
>Be the Strongest Empire in 16th century
>After 500 years a fat Greco/Armenian-American calls you dogshit empire
We are not the getting humiliated, It is you who gets humiliated I assume you're Armenian since you're living in the US how it feels that we have destroyed you kin so hard that your family had to immigrate to Us ? We are still in your land and you cant do shit and you never will be able to. Have a nice day you brown fuck with big Armenoid nose

>>129562869
see
>>129562843
That was easy, were you even trying? Humiliating

>>129562701
Salafi Islam had negligible influence prior to the Saudis

You could drink alcohol and fuck prostitutes at hajj under the ottoman

>>129561900
>You said that Christendom forbid science
I said it forbade Greek philosophy, and it did, all other attempts to teach or build upon classical Greek teachings were pretty shy, and nothing compared to what the Islamic world was doing at the time.

>>129562320
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_medicine
Googling for a couple of seconds could have saved you from sounding like a retard

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>>129562907
You know what else was easy ?
Killing 1.5m of your kin
KEK:DDDDDDDDDDDD

>>129550389
>economy
A meaningless word.

>>129550389
WE WUZ CYLCOPS N SHIET

>>129563111
They are your kin, actually, you are basically Mexicans. The product of breeding yourself out of existence into a Mestizo mongrel race. Fucking hilarious. Your random mentions of Armenians only brings to mind the Turk salt toward Skanderbeg is real, he would have also said Ottomans were 2EZ.

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>>129563064
just

>>129558672
This. Arabs had the foresight not to burn and destroy Greek and Roman knowledge unlike the vandals and barbarians that tore down the WRE.

So they built upon that knowledge and were for a time more advanced than Europe.

Says quite a bit about Arabs when even with that head start they fell into stagnation and were outpaced by Europe within a few hundred years, and ended up being European colonies in a few hundred more. Although not all the blame falls on Arabs, the Mongols really fucked their shit up.

>>129563381
Except that they did, and they did it on massive scales. The entire island of Malta for instance was slaughtered and all of its architecture destroyed.

>>129563201
Just tell me your Origin which Nation that we had enslaved ? Make my shitposting job easier :DDDD

>>129563486
It's been well established throughout this thread that you're a retard. Leave

>>129563486
Yeah, but they still managed to preserve a lot of the knowledge despite their own savagery.

Other than Byzantium, Europe was a backwards shithole until the Crusades and Reconquista, when Christians suddenly came into contact with all this advanced "technology". And they brought it back to Europe. The rest is history.

>>129563602
>The Muslim chronicler and geographer al-Himyari recounts that in 870 CE, following a violent struggle against the occupying Byzantines, the Muslim invaders, first led by Halaf al-Hadim, and later by Sawada ibn Muhammad,[64] looted and pillaged the island, destroying the most important buildings, and leaving it practically uninhabited
Nobody thinks Muslims are too bright and thats why you come to America to be educated. Muslims are like mental children and need supervision from actual adults. Beep beep, here's the Muslim shortbus.
>>129563595
I'm the product of a canoe paddling colonizer who(unlike you) BUILT a civilization rather than stole one and wooped your monkey asses at the game of Empires. Stay on your knees you fucking bootlickers :)

>>129563373
Animal feces contain antibiotics, you dumbass, were you expecting them to use microscopes and medical disinfectants in 3000BC?

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>>129563739
>BUILT a civilization rather than stole one
*laughs in muskogean*
>Kill native americans
>Give them tons of Infected items such as Fabrics with smallpox
>After 300 hundred years a fat fuck tells people that they built a nation without destroying civs
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>129564286
AFAIK we didn't move into teepees. I know Muslim's, especially Turks, are mentally handicapped but do try to keep at least 150 years behind rather than 500

>>129564407
Turkey is just mad they'll never know what it feels like to build and have a real empire of its own

>>129560518
Shouldn't have called the khan a faggot.

>>129550389
Yes, they did. And then Islam shit all over Arab civilization and they haven't invented anything since.

>>129550389
BROTHERS THE BOURGEOIS ARE... MUSLIMS?
>SELF DESTRUCTS

>>129550389
Ibn Khaldun was also one of the first to propose sociology as a science.
He theorized that history followed a cycle that began with tribes taking control of natural ressources and settling in a sedentary lifestyle protected by a state while the less affluent tribes, pushed farther and farther into the badlands, would gradually toughen up and grow stronger by virtue of their harsh environment... Eventually going after the now complacent "elites", and taking over before settling in themselves.

Tunisians also the mediterranean equivalent of the kama sutra: "The perdumed garden".

So what? /pol/ is anti-science now? Too much historical facts for you cumrag?

>>129565539
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spanish_inventions_and_discoveries#Inventions_from_the_Golden_Age_of_Al_Andalus
>americlap cannot into history
Who would've known

>>129566020
How does it make you feel knowing the Muslim world has so thoroughly been shat all over and that you turned the Eastern half of the Roman Empire into trash

>>129566272
>muslim subhuman cannot into present
not surprised

>>129558672
>WE WUZ GREEKS AND SHIT.
only thing you have common with ancient greeks is gaysex snownigger.

>>129550389

Then mohammed comes.

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>>129566331
Being the biggest faggots on the planet you probably know a lot about gay sex

>>129566331
Dunno our medicine and semantics.
Law.
Government.
Philosophy and math .

We learned more from Chinese and Greeks then we ever had from you dune people.

>>129566275
The wheel of history always turns little boy. One day your empire will be ash and your people will be hungry and meek just like us.
But to answer your butthurt question with another:
How does it feel, having the world's greatest army and being too degenerate to stop sucking on zionist cock?
Like De Gaulle said:
>Amerika is the only great power to go from ignorance to decadence without passing through civilization.

>>129566872
You'll still be stuck in 1400 AD by then, gayfag.

>>129560138
It's why native Arabs like the Saudis are so eternally butthurt that they arent the centre of the Islamic world and are now using their oil wealth to spread their Saudi centric sect.

>>129567110
We've never left 1400 in our minds fuckboy... Guerilla is our real national sport.
Meanwhile your daughters will be getting their pussies pounded by chinese soldiers just to get enough for their daily McMeth with extra Oxy.

Ibn Khaldun 1377
“It is strange that most of the learned among the Muslims who have excelled in the religious or intellectual sciences are non-Arabs with rare exceptions; and even those savants who claimed Arabian descent spoke a foreign language, grew up in foreign lands, and studied under foreign masters.”

>>129550389
>evonomics

the Salon of economics journals

Ibn Khaldun 1377
At this time, we can observe the condition of the merchants of the Christian
nations who come to the Muslims in the Maghrib. Their prosperity and affluence
cannot be fully described because it is so great.

"We further hear now that the philosophical sciences are greatly cultivated in the land of Rome and along the adjacent northern shore of the country of the European Christians.

They are said to be studied there again and to be taught in numerous classes. Existing systematic expositions of them are said to be comprehensive, the people who know them numerous, and the students of them very many. God knows better what exists there."

>>129567602
>We've never left 1400 in our minds
Shock of the century, muslims are mentally retarded neanderthals

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>>129566872
This kills the burger

>>129566872
Lying piece of shit.

>>129552451
>The arabs made several contributions to fields that are relevant today, such as algebra
American education?

>>129550389
Well, arabs were kind of advanced, not like nignogs. In the middle ages they were actually the most civilized people. We were nigger tier for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94dY-QxjDiE

>>129566550
when you think wrestling couldn't be any gayer, turks add oil and conquering the groin as winning condition.

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>>129550389

So? It's not like Arabs are as a race, a bunch of dumb fucks like niggers, Arabs invented algebra too.


The only issue with the Arab countries is the high rate of inbreeds and the fucking religion of Islam, which like most religions, makes otherwise intelligent people into complete retards.

>>129568540
A Persian invented Algebra you moorish product of rape. Holy fuck you're dumb. Just kill yourself.

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>>129568681

>Algebra (from Arabic "al-jabr" meaning "reunion of broken parts"

:^)
-----
>Just kill yourself.

Why would I? I am rich

>>129568819
>Persian mathematician and astronomer al-Khwarizmi
Dumb nigger

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WE

The Muqaddimah - Ibn Khaldun
25. Places that succumb to the Arabs are quickly ruined.

The reason for this is that (the Arabs) are a savage nation, fully accustomed to savagery and the things that cause it. Savagery has become their character and nature. They enjoy it, because it means freedom from authority and no subservience to leadership. Such a natural disposition is the negation and antithesis of civilization. All the customary activities of the Arabs lead to travel and movement. This is the antithesis and negation of stationariness, which produces civilization. For instance, the Arabs need stones to set them up as supports for their cooking pots. So, they take them from buildings which they tear down to get the stones, and use them for that purpose. Wood, too, is needed by them for props for their tents and for use as tent poles for their dwellings. So, they tear down roofs toget the wood for that purpose. The very nature of their existence is the negation of building, which is the basis of civilization. This is the case with them quite generally.

Furthermore, it is their nature to plunder whatever other people possess. Their sustenance lies wherever the shadow of their lances falls. They recognize no limit in taking the possessions of other people. Whenever their eyes fall upon some property, furnishings, or utensils, they take it. When they acquire superiority androyal authority, they have complete power to plunder (as they please). There no longer exists any political (power) to protect property, and civilization is ruined.

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>>129550729
fpbp

>>129568957

A Persian that was using Arabic to name his discovery instead of Farsi, can very well be considered an Arab, since being an Arab is little more than sharing the language, customs and living nearby.

>>129568819
You should learn some history m8 and why it's using arabic word.

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>>129569057
No wonder Varg loves them.

>>129569247
Yeah lets just call you, a descendant of an Arab Moor, an Englishman, because you are speaking English. Fucking stupid mongrel.

>>129568540
>arabs invented algebra

This is false. First of all some indian guy had made better and more thorough investigation into algebra than the persian guy who is celebrated as the inventor. Second that persian guy used mostly words and diagrams. A greek had even made algebra long before him.

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>>129569720

>Language, customs and living nearby Arab countries
>Mentions only Language

Well done, sir 60% white.

I'll keep being rich while you drown in your own tears of rage.

>>129568819
highly doubt this spanish cunt have anything to eat let alone claim he's rich.

>>129570085
t.0% white, descendant of literal rape victim

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>>129570196

I am Basque

>>129550389
>what is Islamic Golden Age

it was real when they were the best scientists on the planet

>>129570831
here's a wikipedia link for you lazy retards

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

>>129552451
>such as algebra
You mean the hand-me-down from India, right?

>>129568681

>joli fak yor damb, yast kil yowrself

Una hostia a mano abierta os metía a todos los anglomamones. Call us niggers all u want, u will never be able to compete with spanish or pretty much any european country in meanings of history and heritage, you bastard dumbfucks.

>>129570912
funny how they went more extreme, completely axed the scientific doctrines in favour of demagoguery and oppression.

>>129557426
So what he's saying is that economics has existed since the near dawn of civilisation and yet leftists still try to fuck it up.

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>>129566872
Kek burgers in flames

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>>129571450

>anglomamones

>>129570139
I gain 5k per month and considering everything is cheap here, I live like a king.

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>>129571450
This tbqh

>>129566872
Burger got fried into fucking ashes

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>>129550389
lol arabs were white and had black slaves kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ

It's fucking true though,
Ibn Khaldun argued that the more taxes and more restrictions you put on business owners, the less state revenues will be so you should strive to keep taxes low and let businessmen go about their business as they want.

>>129571661
All those things that make human rights advocates faint were standard practice back then, it's just that Muslims had working states so 70% of the overall population wasn't left starving in the dust. A shame how it turned out, really.

>>129559792

The contributions may be often overblown by pandering leftists, but they *did* make actual contributions.

>>129550389
The communist's dilemma. Can they still hate capitalism if it came from a precious Arab?

>>129556954


This. Cantillon was 100x the economist Adam Smith was, who was really a moral philosopher, and not a good one at that. Smith is interesting if you find 20+ pages on the division of labour in a pin factory interesting, and endless other, tedious, run-of-the-mill examples filling another 1000 pages. Only Book 3 is of much real interest. In most respects Smith represents the kind of arid utilitarian-like thinking that has wrecked havoc throughout the world, and his view of removing obstacles from the flow of capital, has undermined nations not made them wealthy

He should've called his book: "the wealth of the international business community"

Because that is what his doctrines ended up serving.

>>129557426

He is such a retard. Economics becoming a discipline of its own, divorced from moral philosophy, is at the root of the problem of modern economic miscalculation and poor understanding of economic issues--there is no such thing as "economics" proper in the world of reality: it only exists as an abstraction in the minds of kikes like Krugman and Friedman and others.

>>129558518

Social sciences aren't sciences: they are fake, made-up subjects where intellectual cretins apply scientific methods to areas of study where such methods are wholly insufficient and reductionist.

It is wholly unscientific.

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>>129558857

>Blacks be like "WE WUZ MOORS NSHEEIT"
>Actually Moors: "Blacks are not even human"

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>>129560646
>Muslims invented many irrigation techniques though

Methods of irrigating goats asses for semen-flow? Maybe.

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>>129550389
Ibn Khaldun actually was incredibly based and a man before his time. He essentially predicted multiculturalism and the problems of the modern West all the way back in the 1300s. He wrote how when a civilisation gets advanced enough their group solidarity ('Asabiyyah') will weaken and they will be overrun by barbarian tribes who lived on their periphery.

>Ibn Khaldun uses the term Asabiyyah to describe the bond of cohesion among humans in a group forming community. The bond, Asabiyyah, exists at any level of civilization, from nomadic society to states and empires.[3] Asabiyyah is most strong in the nomadic phase, and decreases as civilization advances.[3] As this Asabiyyah declines, another more compelling Asabiyyah may take its place; thus, civilizations rise and fall, and history describes these cycles of Asabiyyah as they play out.[3]

And this is to say nothing of his opinion of blacks

>beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings

>"Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated."

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Racism#Racism_Against_Black_People

>>129558993
>controlled by the Holy Roman Empire
The invasion of Germany by Arabs happened this century.

>>129577468
Context on pic? I'm in bed on mobile and don't get to zoom very much

>>129550389
Paul "let's break some windows" Krugman

>>129550389
So communists are islamophobes.

I didn't know Bernie Sanders was a bigot!

>>129576651
This.

He wasn't an Arab. Remember, all notable things credited to Islamic scholars are from non-Arabs.