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>>129539181

Detroit is a state?

>>129539287
lol, nope. It's Detroit 2: Electric Island Boogaloo

>>129539181
I actually just got back from san juan today, and there was a referendum over puerto rico becoming the 51st state. DESU its necessary, they need support since 1/3 of their population lives on welfare and is unemployed

>>129539506
I didn't see the results of the referendum

>>129539506
This! It would be the ultimate act of open borders, we'd literally be integrating a third world country into our own. Europe may take refugee migrants, America takes entire refugee nations.

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>>129539766

You do realize all puerto ricans are US citizens already and free to move to the mainland?

>>129539766
Everybody in PR is already a US citizen, bruh. Stop adding to the "Murican education" meme.

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Trump can stop this right, you can't just vote yourself into becoming a state

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I smell bullshit.
Puerto Pobre will never be a state.

We have to vote on the mainland to accept them.

>>129541630
i vote yes

>>129540573
The issue is their vote

>>129539181
so what, usa is gonna be 42% now?

>>129539181
What does Makoko from Lagos has to do with Puerto Rico? Shit is not even in the carribean lol

>>129539766
>Being to stupid to know that Puerto Rico has been part of the USA for years.

>>129541811
Oh know some Mexicans are going to vote in more welfare. And vote democrat. Even though both are very obviously deteriorating and won't be an issue in 3.5 years.

>>129544804
>mexicans
you fucking ignorant gringo

>>129546373
>water mexicans
>not mexicans
pick one and only one

>>129539181
so burguerish

>US will be less white than expected
AYYYY

>>129540573
>PRs are US citizens
no, they are not

>>129544682
yeah...........since 1898

>>129548869
>yes they are
>since 1898

>>129539181
Chicago?

>>129539766
pendeja lol

>>129548578
Still whiter and more functional of a country than you pablo

>>129549303
>>129549543
No we didn't become citizens until 1917

>>129539181
They've actually voted to become a state once previously. They were turned down as such a small percentage of the population took part in the vote. Same thing will likely happen this time as only 23% voted.

>>129539181

Detroit is a state now?

>>129539181
Should have listened to FALN and cut that shithole loose

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>>129539458
Audibly kek'd.

>>129539181

I am all for it if they want it. But this time with a binding vote overseen by congress.

This vote and the petition of their Governor should start the process.

Edgelords need to fuck off. These people have been US citizens for 100 years

They have the right to determine if they want to be State.

>>129539766
Anon.... Please be trolling.

>>129544804
PR leans conservative like Cubans

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>>129548869
>Being so retarded that you literally don't know what the fuck your country is, what it does, or who its citizens are
>He probably thinks PR is another spic country just like Cuba

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones%E2%80%93Shafroth_Act

American education.

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>>129539181
>40%

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>>129539181
there is only one 51st state

>>129544804
>>129550654
http://www.latina.com/lifestyle/-news/latinacom-exclusive-daddy-yankee-explains-why-he-supports-john-mccain

>>129539766

They are already integrated idiot. They can travel anywhere in the US for any reason. They are US citizens with US passports.

>>129539181
Can we just say no if they want to become a state? Does congress have to approve or something?

>>129550531
Why the fuck should we have another state of god damn bean niggers? What the fuck bullshit is this? Have you been to NYC or Chicago lately? I don't want to share a hemisphere with these street shitters let alone a country.

Can someone please tell me what the effect of this will be? Do they get electoral votes? Are they actually going to become a state?

>>129539181
Good. Let's help them.

>>129550828
Congress has to approve it. Huge spending on new flags follows

>>129539458
Is it full of niggers?

>>129539181
if puerto ricans acted like the ones in connecticut i'd be ok with this.
if they act like the ones in new york and massachusetts they can fuck right off

This thread is fucking embarrassing. The amount of people here that don't know it's already US Territory like Guam has me fucking floored.

>>129550860
They'd probably be a red state buddy.

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>>129539458

I'm down for this because it confirms to the Star trek future.. theres an episode where Riker dates a US flag because it "only had 51 stars"

>>129550860

We already do though. They are US citizens. They vote in the party primaries. They can travel and work freely in the United States with no restriction.

The only thing admissiln would change is that they would get 2 Senators, and sovereign state government and would siphon congressmen and electoral votes from California, Florida and New York.

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>There are people who want to deny US Statehood to a Territory who's bigger then Delaware and more populated the Wyoming

>>129550860
Territories already get electoral votes you dumbfuck

>>129551223
there's very good reason that puerto rico isn't a state

>>129544682
>being to stupid...
Kek

>>129551297

No they dont.

>>129551223
>There are people who want to deny US Statehood to a Territory who's full of seaspics

>>129551373
Because they always voted no for tax purposes

>>129539181
Hey, i can see my house from there!

>>129549916
gracias pol la correcion socio

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>>129551297
>Territories already get electoral votes

>>129550860
Retard. You should've paid attention in history class. The U.S. annexed Puerto Rico after the Spanish-American war. They're essentially the 'Hawaii of the Carribean'. However, unlike Hawaii, their island is not really worth visiting, and it no longer holds any military value. So instead of granting them statehood, like Hawaii, what did we do? We granted them a quasi-state status in form of a 'Commonwealth territory'. They've been US citizens for a century now. But they primarily speak Spanish, and we never really tried to assimilate them fully like Hawaii. PR is also rather neglected economically, and recently, they went bankrupt, and so now they want to join the States in order to get gibmedats. That's essentially the crash course on what's happened here.

It's a quagmire situation that we inherited from ancestors that didn't want to deal with it, and liked playing 'empire building'.

>>129551297
Don't we have any more MOABs lying around?

>>129551413
Census says they're 75% 'white'.

Which is better than California, New Mexico and Texas.

>>129551373

Yeah they dont have to pay federal taxes get all the benefits of US citizenship and cant decide if they want perpetual union or independence.

Their economic crisis is forcing the issue though.

Which is all to the good. Puerto Rico has long needed to decide whether to take a shit or get off the toilet.

They are fellow citizens though and we should support whatever they decide. Honestly this is probably a good civic exercise for America. We've not expanded the Union in half a century.

>>129551223
>lol why not give state hood to africa because its bigger and more populous than any state in the US
fucking retard

>>129551413
They're also already US citizens and counted as part of our national census figures.

So they represent zero change in overall demographics for the country.
They will not make America any less white.

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>>129539181
Looks like India. Road tripped around PR years ago, it surely wasn't third world

>>129551689

Africa is not full of US citizens. Your arguments are moot. Puerto Rico is already an integral part of the United States. A puerto rican can move to kansas the same way an Missourian can. Overnight and for any reason.

>>129551612
Statehood will make it a more attractive place to live.
Property values will climb.
Businesses will get a bump.

There are worse things.

>>129539766
Been fighting US wars since WW2 but don't want them to be citizens.

What a cuck you are.

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The idea that Puerto Rico would vote Democrat is in part based on voting patterns among mainland Hispanic voters. However, the majority of current U.S. Latino voters have Mexican roots, not Puerto Rican.

Puerto Ricans are typically more socially conservative than the Democratic party on the mainland. We saw this in the recent survey of Puerto Rican voters in Florida and in the decision by a federal judge in Puerto Rico to uphold the ban on gay marriage.

Parties in Puerto Rico are different from those on the mainland. They center on the question of status. Rather than voting Democratic because their parents did, Puerto Ricans will choose the candidate who best represents their views.

>Puerto Rico becomes a state and adds two more Republican Senators and multiple Republican Congressman who would flip the switch in tandem with Pence in a heartbeat

Please God, destroy PR with hurricanes.

>>129551214
Senator Ramon 'Chicharo' Jimenez Gutierez Jr will take the floor now

barf

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>>129551824
>So they represent zero change in overall demographics for the country.

They do in the only place that counts, which is electoral votes.

>>129551680
They're not white.

You don't just get to vote yourself into America so that whitey will pay off your debts. It's fucking bullshit.

>>129549543
>>129550655

>>129551687
We should have kept Cuba, the Philipines, and most of Mexico and anything else we've held since the mexican/Spanish wars and ww2.

I'd never give up an ounce of clay once the claim was laid.

>>129552003
Property values are already too high in the island. The last thing that market needs is higher prices on housing.

>>129551689
This isn't retardation
This is one step beyond retardation.
A poster like that of the First Cosmonaut or that dude who spun a fidget spinner for 24 hours on YouTube. I am astounded to be graced by your presence.

>>129551868
>it surely wasn't third world

Compared to what, Detroit?

Tourist areas are nice, the rest is like Africa.

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>>129550860
>ssshhhhhhhhh
>you have no control over ii cracker.
>enjoy la morcilla papi

>>129552074
>falling for the "based spics" meme

The "socially conservative" voters in Florida were Cubans, not Puerto Ricans.

I literally live here, you can tell the difference immediately when you talk to them.

>>129552003
My only reason for opposing it is a trivial one -- I don't want to change the fucking flags, and I like '50' which is an even number. I know some rural rednecks are going to get pissed off, but I propose that we merge either the Dakotas or the Virginias so we can stay at 50. The Dakota states in particular are fucking stupid. There's like what, 800k citizens between the TWO of them? Why grant them 4 senators? Fuck them. Merge North and South Dakota. Done.

>>129552379
>Why grant them 4 senators? Fuck them. Merge North and South Dakota. Done.

Go fuck yourself leftist.

>>129552328
I am a based spic the meme is true.

>>129552221
Their local economy will uptick significantly.
We were going to be paying the tab any which way you slice it.

I know Porto Reekins here that don't want more Porto Reekins.

>>129552131

Their economic issues are tied directly to their territorial legal status
The best and brightest leave because there are opportunities on the mainland. Both economic and political. Its the washington DC problem on steroids. Why would concientuous US citizens want to live in a region that gives them no political rights?

If George W Bush moved to Puerto Rico for his retirement, he would never again be able to vote in. US election. Yet the people voting for him would be able to dictate his local affairs.

The US congress set the Stage for Puerto Ricos economoc crisis in large part due to its laws and policies that would never have been approved had Puerto Rico been granted voting Senators. Its a perfect shit storm of a subject federal territory granted limited home rule coupled with the right for its people to leave for established states.

>>129552532
No, we will be getting their income tax which we currently don't collect since they're a territory.

>>129551016
everyone knows that already
>>129551086
it should be a death penalty eligible crime to be this fucking stupid, their "republicans" don't share the party values at all, it's just the statehood party

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>>129539181
>picture of lagos in africa

whos the slide thread for rabbi

>>129552591
Let them become their own country then.

There's no reason they should join us.

I don't want more fucking Democrats.

>>129552476
As much as you hate leftist states, it's an obscenity that approximately 1 million voters between the two Dakotas, get TWICE the representation as my state of CA with 40 mil.

It's like saying, your people are worth more than my people. If the Founders saw what happened with demographic shifts, then surely they would've adjusted the electoral college, so barren states don't get so much undue power.

I'm honestly surprised the mayority of this thread is in favor of us... in all of all places /pol/ sees the truth and not that mainstream "muh 2 more democratic seats" "muh seaniggers"

Puerto Rico is beautiful and it has the potential to truly be "the island of enchantment". But it's currently being strangled by it's current status quo. I would not love anything more than to join the US, to pledge my alliance to the flag, to be able to vote for Trump on 2020. Let's thrive together.

>>129552379
>stay at 50

Negative.

I want to split California (and possibly NY/TX) and annex all majority English speaking countries in to statehood.

>>129551223
poor people know how to procreate well.

>>129550919
only niggers can live on dirt.

>>129552591

exactly this

>>129552379
The flag looks like shit now though we need more stars to make it more asthetic. State of Jefferson etc.

>>129539766
Lol made me laugh

>>129552801

Democrats in every state friend, even yours.

The partisan hackery in this country has reached peak retardation if loyalty to party is more important then loyalty to the Republic.

The Puerto Ricans are Citizens of the American Republic
Their beliefs should be of no consequence
What is of consequence is they have the right, as citizens and territorial subjects, under the constitution, to petition congress for admission to the Union.

>>129552177

Thats not an american flag.

>>129552923
>Splitting up California and Texas
Just get rid of the spics/niggers

>>129552816
We will be splitting CA.
That'll help your reprentation massively.
At least for those in the new state of Jefferson.

Possibly taking the opportunity to care the west half off of Socal too, to make a further hard-red state.

>>129552923
Splitting CA is a meme. Some Silicon Valley billionaires threw the idea out there, because they didn't want their tax dollars to go to the rest of the 'plebs'. Basically, they wanted to have their own little Gulf Emirate type state, and it was obviously laughed at. Yeah, let's allow all of the country's millionaires to have one little state, where they can all pay less property/corporate/inheritance tax and all the rest. What can go wrong with our tax revenue system then?

>>129552901
aren't you all shitskin niggers?

we don't like muds in our country. of course, if I'm just thinking of bermuda, then feel free to claim to be white

>>129553119
tell them that if they can kill soros, they become a state.

then lore soros to PR..

>>129550783
Have you even been there? It's totally not integrated. It is, like Anon said, essentially another country.

>>129552901
filthy traitor
how does it feel to lose over half of 2012's pro statehood vote?
the total votes in favour of joining Murica isn't even 1/4 of the total registered to vote

>>129539181
>>129553119
I also think we should tack the US Virgin Islands (110,000 people to PR's 3.4 million) on to them and any other Carribean nonsense we have claim to.

>>129552901
your entire island is one big ghetto

>>129553214
They're described as a "commonwealth", but it's not in the same sense. They're awkwardly between what Canada is to the UK and what Scotland is to the UK.

>>129553248

A lot of bums will benefit from that though.

>>129553216
Why don't you just get rid of your Pakis and other 'Asians'? Much fearmongering is spread about about our problem with Hispanics taking over. But the thing is, they're a Western aligned people. They're basically brown 'Polish' people, to make an analogy you will understand. They'll assimilate in time.

Will your Pakis and Asians ever assimilate? Judging by recent events, it doesn't look like it.

>>129553524
lol

>>129553565
>They're awkwardly between what Canada is to the UK and what Scotland is to the UK.
So... shit?

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>>129553253

white skin and green eyes

and man if you would see the women here... it's basically PAWG island

>>129551868
>it surely wasn't third world
Depends where you go

>>129553643
Yes

>>129552816
Then tell them to move to a place with more representation

Your state doesn't get twice the representation, it gets a commensurate amount of electoral votes considering its landmass and population density.

In short, shut the fuck up you whiny leftist faggot.

>>129552901
Pay your fucking debts, seaspic.

>>129552816
No retard it's because North Dakota and Modesto have the same amount of people but Modesto produces exactly shit and North Dakota gives us our second most gas and tons of crops. States have resources besides people and if weren't given weighted representation they would be completely silenced. Your 700k beaners in Modesto should get even LESS of a voice.

>>129540874
They would have to be verified as a state by the U.S. government.
Last time, the citizens of Puerto Rico voted in favor of statehood but were denied due to the fear that the vote did no accurately represent the will of the country's people.
In this vote, there was only 23% voter turnout, meaning that it is likely the same will happen again.

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>>129539181
We're not changing the flag.
If they come in we're kicking CA out.

>>129553248
>little
It would be larger than most states on the east coast.
And if we took the east side of Socal (the red counties) and split them off as well be another red state larger than half the east coast. (Bonus? Blue Socal now has almost zero fresh water access).

>>129553253
>aren't you all shitskin niggers?
No they're light skinned Mexicans

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>>129553624
>Western aligned people
What does this mean? They support westerners/whites? Yeah that's why they always vote democrat and can't stop raping/killing you. America will look like Brazil in a decade or two because of people like you.

>>129553351

They fly our flag. They follow our laws. They travel abroad in our name.

In all things that mattter they are Americans. People in New York City would argue people in wyoming are not "integrated".

In the end though, arguments over culture and language are red herrings

The US Constitution grants them the right to Petition for admission and that petition must be heard and given fair hearing. We don't get to pick and choose what parts of the constitution we like and which parts to ignore


Puerto Ricos right to be given a chance for admission is as equally sacred as your right to bear arms.

>>129553857
I'd be happy to leave, California gives the federal government more than it gets back. Good for CA to leave, bad for the rest of the US

>>129553648
I stand corrected; you aren't a nigger. Though that wiry jew-beard isn't doing you any favors

>>129553524

lmao k
https://www.instagram.com/whateverpuertorico/?hl=en

>>129552087
This and check numerals

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>>129539181
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA WUT!?? AMERICA IS BRAZIL NOW? HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>129553119
This is the new Antifa/Hasbara/JTRIG technique, I see.

Civic nationalism cannot survive, and taking on debts of foreign territories and populations is a surefire way of breaking up your precious "Republic".

Only white people can maintain the republic, and people who don't believe in the republic are of absolute consequence when you're talking about bringing them into the current system.

>>129553119
>What is of consequence is they have the right, as citizens and territorial subjects, under the constitution, to petition congress for admission to the Union.

And I have the right as an actual US Citizen to tell them to fuck off back to their indebted hellhole of an island.

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>>129553891
Calling one of them a Mexican is a good way to get some teeth knocked in.

>>129550531
Puerto Niggers are disgusting cockroaches. Horrible hygiene. You know what they do on a daily? During summer time? They fucking take a shower of cologne or some strong-smelling spray-on deodorant to cover up the fact that they haven't taken a bath/shower. And they chew cinnamon gum because they're too lazy to brush their teeth. Fucking disgusting.

They either start acting like Westerners, with the bathing and brushing teeth, or their US citizenship is revoked and they get evicted from PR and sent to some other 3rd world Latin American country. Because that's where those animals belong.

>>129553397
People who refuse to vote get no say.
Democracy is for those with spirit to let themselves be heard.

Those who abstain can shut their worthless brain dead mouths or gtfo my country (which includes PR).

>>129553119
God fucking kill yourself you Civic Nationalist. I bet you think the 100 million beaners are Americans too and it's unAmerican to not want them here.

Fucking no. Get them the hell out. You think some cucky law is some end all to be all thing.

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>>129553959
The exact problem with the United States is that Wyoming and New York do have different cultures entirely; they're practically different countries in every regard except legally. That's no basis for a nation.

Divide the United States.

>>129553648
>t.kike with a PR proxy

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>>129553979
Go for it. Just remember the wall will end up keeping you in, on your side ... all of you.

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>>129553119

>>129553773
thank god. The last thing we need right now is more welfare scum ruining the economy. The left would have a field day.

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>>129539458

>>129539181
You have to have a certain amount of people to become a state. Last time I checked Puerteros Ricanius is not a person but a subspecies of chimpanze

>>129554039
>new
>almost 120 years in the making
You're a retard.

>>129552901
No you stupid spic, it is being strangled by the drug and crimee problem, along with the political corruption. And the people are proud of nothing.

>>129550919
PR is essentially nigger rape babies. Cannibal Indios, after they got bitch-slapped by the fucking Spanish (of all people), were forced to breed with niggers imported to their shitty island. And now, a majority of them have nigger blood.

>>129553959
>They are integrated
I'm aware of their legal status. But based on the time I've spent there and being all over the island, it's like a different country.

Have you been there? You might change your mind about how integrated they are.

>The US Constitution grants them the right to Petition for admission and that petition must be heard and given fair hearing.
I'm not arguing against that. I'm responding to someone who said they are integrated. They aren't. They don't even speak the same language. I'm aware many of tyem know some english, but on a daily basis they speak spanish. Not integrated. And ghetto as shit. But the mufongo is pretty good.

>>129539181
There's only 13 states. Believing there's more than that is some CIA MKUltra stuff

>>129554042
Quakin' in my boots over here

>>129539181
>only 23% of the people voted
Not gonna happen, they invalidated the last referendum for this same reason. They are doomed to remain a colony.

>>129554560
Conservative or gibs?

>>129554169
We tried dividing the States some 150 years ago, and we had the bloodiest conflict in American history. That exactly... didn't go too well, did it? Here is what will happen if we allow states to secede: the big and ideologically opposed states will immediately leave, especially the ones with resources. Then the ones without resources will form confederations in order to stay alive. Then, if history is any lesson, we have our own 'Warring States' period, as we fight for said resources/supremacy.

The Union was preserved for a reason. The alternative was further conflict and anarchy.

>>129554560
yeah, fuck them for being colonized!

>>129554794
Paradoxically, both.

They are socially conservative but will absolutely accept any and every form of aid we're willing to send them.

>>129554743
Literally doomed by their own lazy asses. Let me tell you 'Ricans are some LAZY mother fuckers.

>>129554169
We should have an open vote of all US citizens in favor/against secession of their state/county/city/region/territory seceding.
Names publicly available, social security number attached available to homeland security.

Everyone who votes secession should be stripped of citizenship as though they renounced it and given a one way ticket the fuck out.
Those who resist deportation should be shot, as they are now invaders.

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>>129554733
Why? They can't do anything to you at your computer.

>>129553722

We Puerto Ricans are entirely conscious this debt is ours and there has never been any public push to try and have USA pay the debt.

But understand that with our current status we cannot do anything. All our brightest are leaving the island because there are opportunities on the mainland. I'm an accountant, i'm just waiting for my gf to graduate to move the fuck out of here and earn a decent living. And guess what you can't do shit about it because it's my right as a US citizen. But if you would make us a state, lift all these laws and restrictions that has caused this fucking problem in the first place, maybe I can stay here happily and contribute to Puerto Rico thriving and prosper again.

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>theres a chance this could go through
>Trump could make the island prosperous
>EU (((refugee))) program gets put to shame
And imagine the media reaction at the 51st state voting Trump in its first election ever

>>129554578
They'll teach English k-12.
It'll be fixed in a generation.

Facts and answers in this thread:

>>129516119

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>>129554896
That's what I'm saying. You guys work out a deal with CA so we don't have to change the flag.

>>129554872
Really it looks like a place given half the chance economically might turn around. It will probably be pleasant for awhile. Hopefully rich people move in and they experience some growth. It will be nice for awhile, you just have to keep the liberals out by and large. Knowing how the left talk the talk but don't walk the walk, they won't move in to civilize it first.

>>129554517
the fucking drug and crime problem comes from almost half of the island lives in poverty. And the reason for the island being so fucked up is our current status quo. Finally the old are dying and now we are seeing a more overwhelming feel in favor of statehood.

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>>129554794
What do you think?

>>129554999
There's also a 99% chance they'll vote democrat
Imagine my shock when America looks like Brazil in 51 years after this shit

>>129555132
do they speak english or some beaner shit

>>129555122
Why the fuck would you say that?

>literally every Mexican country ever

Yeah but THIS one will really 'turn itself around!'

>>129554999
>imagine the media reaction at the 51st state voting Trump

They already panicked in the primaries. An independent poll showed Trump winning and the response was to fly former governor Fortuno to ask his fans to vote for Rubio. Then the government itself made the voting process difficult and confusing just for the primary.

>>129555172
Go finish Brexit, faggot.

>>129554999
GLORIOUS

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>>129555172
That's what I'm saying.
>>129555092
We can give the libs CA and let them turn that into Brazil or Venezuela.
>>129555319
Also this.

Looks like Louisiana to me

>>129554828
They were doing it wrong. Now we have tanks and drones and shit. Lets try this again:

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>>129554891
>Everyone who votes secession should be stripped of citizenship as though they renounced it and given a one way ticket the fuck out.
>Those who resist deportation should be shot, as they are now invaders.

That's Unconstitutional.

>>129554896
I think we should go the other way with it and remove PR's status as a US territory.

You want independence.

>>129555122
It won't, the demographics seal their fate, brown people slinging drugs and killing people doesn't ever change.

>>129555169
Every place is going to have tards. Once some corporations move in and revitalize, I hope they'll see the benefit of honest living.

>>129555319
Stop being a civic cuck

>>129540573
stupid fucking shill, you dont know your head from your ass with a stupid comment like that.

>>129539181
Looks like some good work can be done there. Lots of nice paying jobs for people who chose to do trades instead of gender studies maybe?

I get what you mean though. Yikes.

See this anon gets i t>>129554896
. It is about creating prosperity.
There should be a special tax on HollyJew and SiliconJew to pay for this.

If they end up having to pay their employees less because of it...oh well they can reduce the cost of the over priced housing that surrounds these pits of theives.

>>129555237
Island people.

>>129555455
what incentive would there be for a corporation investing in PR? There are already plenty of shit-skins for cheap labor.

Trump will make Puerto Rico great again.

>>129553979
>California education

You guys would be fucked without the US. Even moreso if Jefferson became a state. For starters, you would literally have zero water sources.

>>129555574
Hawaii.

>>129554578
Reality stands in your way. Most people watch cable/satellite in English (measured), buy English magazines and listen to music in English. Maybe you should make new aquaintances.

>>129555578
>Trump will make Puerto Rico great again.

Only an Independent Puerto Rico can make Puerto Rico great again.

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>>129555505
>so close

Hey, this could work out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywJ1MD4-Cns

>>129555169
In green. FAKE.

>>129555653
>We speak English so we're basically Anglos now
FOS

>>129539181
Looks like fucking District 9

guys can we into US state, we also have same color flag and great eagle ?

Ok, some numbers (don't quote me on this, though).

Votes in favor of statehood:
Referendum 1993: 788,296
Referendum 1988: 728,157
Referendum 2012: 834,191
Referendum 2017; 494,393

colonialism was a mistake. fucking puerto ricans GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>129555642
hawaii doesnt have slums or ghettos afaik.

>>129555172
>There's also a 99% chance they'll vote democrat
Based on what?

Anyhow that was already answered in the other thread.

>>129516119

>>129555846
Because it didn't have money pumped it no it. Now they can find a way to make it profitable by enticing outsiders.

>>129555229
youth knows english, excellent in writting, most of them don't get that much practice in talking because it's not the norm but they certainly do speak english (with accent) and understand. The problem is the old people man, we just need them to hurry the fuck up and die so they can stop voting. Also we have our own ghettos full of niggers, only they aren't black but you understand there is a difference on how a nigger behaves and how a black man behaves. Same goes to our ghetto people, if we could bomb them it would solve a lot of our problems

>>129555672
Only a puerto rican civil war will give us independence. Seriously we need to eradicate the caserio and barrio majority and their children, they are evil and filled with hatred/envy.

>>129555642
hawaii is a blue shit hole that has no real job opportunities and is filled with chinks and natives who hate white people

>>129555425
It doesn't have any bearing in it being the right course of action.

>>129555808
Can I quote you on this?

>>129555846
>hawaii doesnt have slums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZRXcQv71QY

Hawaiians are island niggers, there's plenty of tent cities and ghettos.

>>129556093
Well, if you like it bae ;)

>>129555483
>you dont know your head from your ass
Actually that is (((you))).

The statement that made you so unconfortable is factual.

>>129555982
This bori

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=claVivcJr5g

Here's a POV video of someone driving through San Juan. Modern city. Looks alright.

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>>129539181
that pic is from nigeria

>>129548869
yes we are, retard.

>>129556051

theyre not building ships out there anymore?

Apparently they usually have a very high turnout rate.. 80%.

But only 23% came to vote. The rest boycotted.

DO NOT LET THEM BECOME A STATE IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BE.

But we need to question: who is it that does not want Puerto Rico to be a state? Are they thugs? Are they making an uninformed choice? Or do they have a real reason for not wanting to be a U.S. state?

>>129556043
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about but okay. That's your problem and the best I can do is let you work it out on your own, I've never stepped foot on the island and the only people I know that are from PR are liberal shitheads.

>>129556081
The USA doesn't need an Island version of Detroit. The demographics absolutely matter in terms of determining the correct course of action.

>>129539181
thats not Puerto Rico in that pic,lol.

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>>129556324

>>129556290
>Spanish signs
>alright

>>129555808
>don't quote me on this, though

Sure. Voter fatigue. We vote for statehood and local parties sit on their hands. Next election cycle promise a statehood again. Win-> new vote->sit on the hands->repeat. The decreasing number is proportional to the relocation to the mainland.

I'm curious as to how this will effect Puerto Rico's

Act 20 and Act 22.

For that matter, is it time to invest?

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>>129539181
Coming in at a whopping 35 million people and a massive 3.85 miiiiiiilion square miles, it's none other than


Canadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

>>129555841
TV set as education was a mistake. Puerto Ricans are American citizens and have been since 1917. You woud know if you turned off the TV and started reading.

>>129556573
How do we stop people from coming to the mainland?

I say we push for PR Independence. Add them to NATO and set up trade agreements.

As it is, PR exists as a spic-factory that sends people to America to vote Democrat. We need to contain it.

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>>129556324
real pic

>>129556043
You are a terrible LARPER.

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>>129556567
What's wrong with it? Can't exactly change language in a matter of ten years.

>>129556739
but did you vote?

>>129556051
If you care to read the history of Hawaii you would know why.

>>129556835
Have you driven on an American road before?

Our signs are in English for a reason.

desu its just not a good fit right now. Our healthcare system is already on the verge of failure and with retards not passing the AHCA...

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>>129548578
Are you just compelled by some uncontrollable or unstoppable desire to destroy everything decent in the world?
Do you really want the whole world to look like your country? Why do you celebrate the fall? Why do your people actively work for and welcome destruction and the break down of decent societies.
It's as if you have only one evolutionary directive and not one of you in all of your existence has seen the flaw in your master plan to steal a better life from the people you pretend to be victims of: You won't ever have what you desire. You'll never possess it, you cannot steal it, the only way to live in a decent society is to be decent people.
You can already see the break down of american society and you goblins aren't even 50% of the population yet. You're breaking our hospitals, schools, social benefits (which you don't care enough about to have in your own countries but decry us if we try to exclude you from the benefits we fund) employment options, housing, neighborhoods - you people are just as bad as blacks on both infrastructure and community. Letting your 50 kids run around in nothing but a T shirt because you're too fucking lazy to change a diaper, clean up after your kid or fucking potty train it, animals you won't get fixed going bald from mange, covered in ticks, yards full of fucking trash that you just toss out open windows, and a house held together by corrugated metal sheets and half assed repairs - too lazy to make a decent life for yourself while selling yourselves as 'hard workers'.
You think naming your spawn Jesus and Maria means that you're good catholics and that gorging yourselves regularly counts as family values. And you seem incapable of anything more than spreading your pestilence across the whole of this continent.
Because just shitting up half of it isn't good enough for you - you deserve more, and the more it deludes you the more you seek its destruction.

>>129556420

mostly it's that the public is mad they wasted 8 million in this plebiscite instead of AUDITING THE FUCKING DEBT. It's because our government is corrupt as fuck and every past administration has been also but if they can just make us, the people, pay for the stupid ass not audited debt. We will pay for all the millions they stole. Everything will be swept under the rug. Current governor absolved the audit committee with the excuse that it's to expense to audit the debt and they will not find anything. While there's proof on other cases on the states where they audited the debt and a chunk of that debt became illegal. But then goes ahead and pays for this plebiscite nobody asked for.

>>129539766
Poor people in San Juan, PR are just like the poor people in Jackson, MS. They can move to a rich place like San Francisco, but they would be even poorer there.

>>129556991
sounds like its time for a revolution then

>>129556324
>pic is from nigeria

Usually they use "La Perla". A small slum used by all USA newspapers, Fox News and Hollywood to push the undeveloped empoverished island narrative. The fact is the democrats are the ones that do not want us to become a state. They pay republican lobbyists to sell their narrative to the republican party and Fox News.

Lmao canada is more likely to be the 51st state than an island full of spic debtors

>>129556991
it is their bid for the 51st state, or offering. Which ever you see it

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>>129557070
Say what? The cost of living is ridiculously high in SF but I don't consider that shithole 'rich' by any means.

>>129556913

Their signs are in Spanish because most of the people who live there speak Spanish. Imagine having a state where the signs are a different language. I think it'll just be the same, Puerto Rico has always been there and always accessible and it'll stay that way. Just as a state. I don't know how I feel about it other than 51 is an uneven number. I'm serious, that's the one thing I'm focused on. I don't think they're going to become a state.

>>129556324
>that pic is from nigeria

Thanks amigo for unmasking the shill.

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Pauline Crespo

PAWG Island, indeed.

>>129550654
Tell that to Orlando

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>>129557228
Ya know, that wouldn't be much of a transition, what with all we have in common.
April Wine is really big down here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlcY_enzwmI

>>129557208
Ur infant mortality rate is slightly higher than Kuwait lmao its time to stop posting pablo and re-thatch ur roof

>>129539181
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE NEXT STATE, THE VOTE WAS BASICALLY AN OVER GLORIFIED OPINION POLL.

>>129557171
>>129556991
>sounds like its time for a revolution then

Just be independent.
The US could turn them into a socialist nation. Make them a huge rival to Cuba. Then invade Cuba. Use "you want to be socialist you should do this because this is real socialism" as a motivating factor. BAM! TOURISM.

>>129554322
It is now the Progressive Party

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Lynette Chico, PAWG ISLAND.

>>129556453
This:
>I don't know what the fuck you're talking about
And this:
>I've never stepped foot on the island

Proves you are and idiot and those are your own words. Really makes you think.

>>129557608
Phat ass white girls
>white

>>129556453
>another Detroit
>6% black (almost entirely mixed)
It's got better demographics than any state sharing a border with Mexico, and better than most of our major cities.

>>129552816
>wanting two Senator Feinkikes

>>129556879
Isn't it funny how the 'history' of every brown place coincidentally makes them a shithole?

>>129556644
>is it time to invest

Wait for a statement from President Trump and do not pay attention to the gold salesmen!

Still better roads than in Russia

>>129557846
is some guy really running against putin? bet he dies.

>>129557798
>white people arrive in shithole
>spruce the place up, leave
>natives riot, reverse quality of life
>blame whitey

It happens everywhere

>>129556991
>AUDITING THE FUCKING DEBT

The federal government is the one that is supposed to do it and all the way back to 1953. That and Banco Popular.

>>129557685
Also, they're already citizens.
Even if PR chose independence, they'd still all be able to come here.
And likely would at least for child birth to ensure their kids stay citizens.

>>129557070
How is gang warfare there at home Chucktlsteke?

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>>129539458
kek'd

>>129554828
>>129555407
Dynasty Warriors America Edition sounds pretty baller.

Who will be Lu Bu and who will be Cao Cao

>>129557345
>signs are in Spanish

For political reasons. Its the responsibility of the federal government to force the use of english signs. It's after all the federal highway system. I find it curious you do not know that.

However some mayors have the signs within their jurisdiction changed to english. English is part of the education since after all is the USA education system. Political activists are good at singling out dumb people (like you) to sell then a narrative to be brought back to their home states.

This is actually a shill slide thread.

Answers and facts are in this one:

>>129516119

>>129558559
Ur very rude and its no wonder ur exiled to Bean Island w ur nasty superior attitude.

>>129558712
A FUCKING LEAF

>>129558712
>Ur very rude

Go back to pleddit.

>>129555642
>>129555846
>>129555915
>>129556158
I wouldn't want to live in Hawaii right now.

There have a slug infestation that can infect humans with brain eating parasites with no known cure.

And killing the slugs won't solve the problem since dead slugs are still eaten by Hawaii's rats which allow the parasites to bounce back again.

Cycle repeat.

Native Hawaiians are importing vegetables outside of Hawaii now. They don't trust any of their fruits or vegetables grown on the island due to the slugs.

Also, they have to check their garden hoses for slugs everyday.

So yeah, if you have to be in Hawaii, avoid fruits and vegetables grown in Hawaii.

Or at least, only eat cooked vegetables but even still, better to eat vegetables or fruits sourced from outside Hawaii.

Don't eat shit like salad on the other hand.

Meat is safe from the slug infestation though.

Just avoid raw vegetables and raw fruits in Hawaii in general.

At this point, we're more likely to end up with 49 states.

>>129555620
those niggers would just keep stealing Nevadan water from the Colorado

>>129551689
hay jackass Puerto Ricans are US citizens already

>>129558920
In other words Hawaii is becoming New Straya.

>>129557810
DGSE actually looks promising

>>129558161
It is doing shitty thank you very much

>>129539766
>>129548869

>american education

>>129558920
Think the parasitic slugs are known locally as Hawaiians

>>129559041
What the fuck are you talking about cunt?

>>129539181
Looks like an above average state

>>129559041
In Australia, the greatest fear is having a spider in the toilet take a bite out of your penis.

Australians have to check their toilets for spiders everyday.

>>129549543
US Nationals ≠ US Citizens. If they were Citizens they could vote in national elections.

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Puerto Rico is a shithole. They rack up the fucking debt doing what exactly? Only reason the left wants it to be a state is for the two liberal senators and the electoral votes they could certainly count on.

Random thought here...

Trump grew his empire through Real Estate, Puerto Rico is currently real estate friendly if you know what you are looking for. Big business or not an individual has the potential to cash in.

What does Trump do?

They have some current major research facilities either under construction or currently working on a project.

Do it for the science?

>>129559063
I mean do not pay attention to gold salesmen that speak about investments in Puerto Rico. A lot of bond holders got fucked by them. Wait for a statement from POTUS. Keep in mind there is a fiscal oversight board actually in charge in the Island now.

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>>129553979
> The federal government spends some $367.8 billion a year on California. That’s an average of about $9,500 for every woman, man and child in the state.

>In truth, the money isn’t spread out evenly. About 56 cents of every federal dollar spent in California, according to the analysis, goes to health or retirement benefits — Social Security, Medicare and money for low-income residents’ health care through the Medi-Cal program.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-california-federal-government-money-20170205-story.html

>>129559223
>What the fuck are you talking about

The ever present existential danger brought by small animals that are nothing but little nuisances or objects of curiosity elsewhere.

>>129549543
>>129550655
they are permanent residents NOT citizens of the U.S. jackass. they still have to renounce PR citizenship officially and obtain U.S. citizenship.

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HAY RETARDS SAYING PUERTO RICANS AREN'T CITIZENS. THEY ARE BUT CANT VOTE IN FEDERAL ELECTIONS! THEY EVEN HAVE A CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rican_citizenship

>>129539181
What the fuck is this? Even Russia is pleasant compared to this place, and Russia is a large craphole.

>>129539766
The virtue signaling would be bright enough to blind the aliens around Tabitha's Star.

>>129551680
GIS some "white" Puerto Ricans...those things are NOT white.
No statehood for PR, and get rid of Hawaii while we are at it.

>>129551016
>Guam
Now you're just making places up

>>129559468
Incorrect. This territory is the exception because in 1898 the feds found out were were descendants of Europeans with no citizenship, not even from Spain. By then peope actually spoke in archaic spanish so the education was strictly in English until political correctness changed it. In 1917 we got USA citizenship. From there one we have been divided between the party that sucks federal tit (with the banks and the media) and the ones that wanted statehood.

Been a citizens does not get you to vote. The representation is for the territory and it has to be a state to have it. The president is an agent of the states and thus no presidential vote either. However if i move to a state I get to vote and if you move here you loose your representation.

>>129559614
You are shill.

>>129559894

WOW! Please source for laughs! Please! Please! Please!

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>>129550531
>>129551223
>>129552074
You have to go back, pic related.

>>129556978
Quality post.

>>129560599
Pleddit! LOL! You got to go back!

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Keep those scum out of here.

Does anyone else think the Spanish West Indies (Cuba, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic etc) should become one country?

>>129560256
I'll annex cuba, the phillipines, the koreas, japan, and all the tiny pacific islands, and the entire anglosphere.
And you'll do jack shit about it.

>>129552901
This. Ignore the Kekistan fags.

>>129560838
Same. They used to be part of the same province way back in times of the Spanish Empire, anyway. Just kill the french nigger haitians and you are done.

>>129561017
We should have kept the all, and all of our gains after the Spanish and mexican wars.

Though we should have deported or executed all the Africans/full indios.

To be fair, the US should give Puerto Rico to the Queen and then to Canada. I have heard Canadians want one caribbean island as a vacation spot and PR is the ideal place for that. Besides they are basically Americans, so it's a win-win situation.

This is actually a shill slide thread. The OP picture is FAKE.

Answers and facts are here:

>>129516119

>>129561171
Read about the Yucatan bill, you could have the whole peninsula, legaly. but you rejected it. You never wanted more territory.

>>129540573

But now they have two Senators who will ban guns support faggot rights and slam open the boarders to rapists

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>>129539181
Nigeria. Truth be told, however, if you let the thugs run shit, this is what it would soon turn into. Sections of cities would just turn into tribal/gangster mini-nations. It will go well for the people with tonz o gunz. For the average black person trying to make an honest living, not so much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoAfR108pLA

>>129561382
A very bad call.

I'd have had us go full imperialist.

We should have sided with the Axis in WW2 and seized the entire western hemisphere and deported all blacks to Africa.

>>129561457
Are you sure it is healthy to speak from the ass?

>"We can't have welfare queens in our 'Merica and they are unemployed spics!"
>The ones that want to build a decent life end up living in the US without any of you ever noticing anyway and end up contributing
>Fuckton of PR is in your military and have been since for-fucking-ever
>Those that work here already contribute to the island AND your country by buying American products
>US government already spends on us whether or not we are a state


But hey, this is /pol/ and I don't expect you to understand we have been part of America since forever. And FYI, our ancestry is whiter than yours. The Taino tribes here got fucked by Spain and Spain got fucked by other white countries that ended up here.

I hope you never taste our delicious food, you cucks.

>>129561565
Also Santiago Vidaurri offered the Rio Grande states to Jefferson Davis to help the Confederacy, and he rejected the proposal.

>>129561256
i lost myself here for a second. i shall redirect my attention there

>>129561798
Wow, mexican red pill. Interesting.

>>129561654

Even Rubio is a fudge packer gun grabbing globalist and he is a republican and has deep rooted reasons to hate commies.

You are a fucking idiot to think Ricans will even vote in a republican let alone a closed boarder 2 genders pro-gun republican.

Trump got 5k votes in the primary

Hillary got 40K

Oh yeah and there were only 40k republican ballots compared to 85K democrat.

I know exactly what i am talking about spic.

>>129561927
I am only saying the truth, the US could have had half of Mexico, by legal terms, if they wanted to. But they didn't.

>>129561727
>our ancestry is whiter than yours

This is why they can't trigger me. My blood names are shield names while the faggot's most likely mean "tree feller" or "son of fisherman"!

>>129552207
Yes to Cuba, maybe to Northern Mexican states if the Mexicans were either assimilated or pushed out, no to the others.
I wouldn't want 75 million Flips being able to come here at will.

Answers and facts here:

>>129516119

>>129562017

No spic our culture is different and you will only fuck up ours.

In fact you just admitted that is the case.

Just look how you are talking.

You literally hate whites and their culture.

The only god damn reason you want to be part of the states is for the money.

That is it.

You don't want our culture you don't want our race. You just want our money.