How does /pol/ combat existential dread?
Anime, videogames and fapping to porn of both
>>129532639
There is a reason this board turns religious over time. Even if an influx of retarded atheists come from new sites like Reddit, they'll see.
Suicide is fairly common, I've heard.
I drink.
>>129532639
Meditation
>>129532639
Jump between multiple distractions to try and wash out the hollow aching dread.
Video Games - Shitposting - porn - nail biting - reading all in the space of five minutes
>>129532639
I'm not a giant bitch.
>>129532639
You can't combat it.
You have to distract yourself.
The easiest way to do this is to interact with other people.
Even if you don't like other people or spending time with them, you have interact with them or else dive into the abyss of self-godhood.
These types of thoughts are called "intrusive thoughts". The more you pay attention to them, the more real they become. So, simply ignore them and they will fade away over time.
>>129532639
Actively change the world for the better.
Start by cleaning your room.
Then clean your neighborhood with other people who have clean rooms.
Then clean your city with other people who have clean neighborhoods.
Then clean your nation with other people who have clean cities.
>>129532639
>>129532995
Balls and guts, mostly.
Combined with a morbid fascination with seeing how the journey ends.
>>129532995
>I lack the capacity for meaningful existential and introspective thought
Cool story, hoi polloi.
>>129532639
>combat
Embrace the truth, look into the abyss, accept the reality. denial is not the answer.
>>129532639
20-40 billion people have lived and died before you were ever born. They all had lives and dreams. Now they're gone. One day you'll be gone. So will I.
Better to enjoy what time you have than worry about non-existence. You were non-existent for 13.8 billion years before you did exist, and it didn't bother you then.
>>129533452
You sound like a total faggot. Eat a dick.
>>129533553
but muh 72 virgins in heaven
>>129532639
I don't have existential dread because I'm past the point of not giving a shit. Also my life doesn't suck that much.
>>129532639
Happenings.
A lot of interesting things will happen in the next few decades.
>>129532639
lifting and video games
>>129532639
By doing anything human and thinking about the little people that look like me and their fucked up multicultural future.
If I sit on the couch and try to do nothing for 5 minutes, pretty much since age 16 (when nothing traumatic happened, just cuz), I start thinking, "Cosmic dust. We're all just so much cosmic dust. I don't need to wake up in the morning."
Pic related is for fucking, sperm collecting, and bastard donating, not for marrying or making babby with white man.
>>129532995
This, grow the fuck up and handle it.
>>129533553
>>129533740
>>129533759
It is only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything-
Chuck Palahniuk
>>129533553
this is the thing. if there is life after death (however that would be set up) then ok, whatever.
>potential for eternal suffering
If there isn't life after death then you won't be there to acknowledge or bemoan that condition. ok then too
>no suffering possible
it's actually a better deal all round
>>129532639
It subsides on its own. Try and see for yourself how long you can think about it continuously until your mind wanders. It is neither possible nor necessary to combat it. The only way existential dread can cause you any inconvenience is if the reality of death conflicts with the narratives you construct to justify your actions. That's not such a big deal, however, because the narratives you construct to justify your actions have little influence on the actual motivations behind your actions. Existential dread is mostly confined to the language areas of the brain. The rest of the brain can keep on ticking no matter how convoluted your narratives get.
>>129532639
By not saving faggot comics from reddit.
>>129533178
Honestly Jordan peterson has done wonders for me. If I start to feel like I am questioning my existential state of being, which usually gave me anxiety and a sense of depression, I just create responsibilities.
Because no matter how good you think you are, you always have room to improve on. And that room or space for improvement gives your life purpose. It may feel like it sucks, because it does. But that's the point. Meaning isn't worthwhile unless it's painful and has a goal. You could stay at home jerking off and play video games all day but you know how empty that feeling is. And similarly, you can't just beat yourself up and get meaning because that is literally self-destructive and you don't like pain. It is only when we align our intentions to surpass roadblocks do we have a sense of value. It proves that we have strength, and it proves our worth in the dominance hierarchy.
>>129534004
Theology is fun, but at the end of the day I don't think a deity capable of creating the universe along with us would ever require an esoteric rule set for everyone to abide by, otherwise they're fucked and tortured for eternity. If such a deity were to actually exist, then by definition they would be evil, which of course would invalidate any reason for worshiping them.
So either an afterlife of paradise exists for everyone without question, or death is just a dreamless sleep.
>>129534607
>death is just a dreamless sleep
The decades of life left are little comfort for impending non-existence.
>>129535028
There's no reason to get freaked out about it, though. When you're asleep, you're basically dead, insofar as being unaware of your surroundings. Sure, things can wake you back into consciousness. But for however many hours you are 'unplugged' from consciousness, you, as you define yourself, does not exist. You're a mound of atoms on auto-pilot.
If the thought of non-existence was truly all that terrible, then the act of going to bed should be terrifying, because for eight hours of every day 'you' are not here.
>>129534607
Maybe you knew his and maybe you didn't, but you just paraphrased Marcus Aurelius. Truly an awesome philosopher. "Meditations" really helped me with existential angst.
>>129532639
I only really get it when I'm going to sleep and waking up.
Stop being so solipsistic, narcissistic and egotistical.
Because I'm smart enough to not care about things I cannot control
>>129532639
>>129532639
Existential angst is some seriously pussy ass shit. Act like a man and it will cure itself.
Seriously. Go do some hard labor. Get a job as a construction worker busting your ass for 12 hours a day lifting heavy loads in the baking sun. You won't give a shit about existential angst any more.
It's like Molymeme said. If you have someone who likes pound cake and offer them some pound cake, they eat it. They don't say, "oh, what use is it to bother. In a thousand years we'll all be gone and none of it will matter anyway." They eat the cake.
Go eat your cake.
>>129532639
Philosophy etc. Many have had their shot at this question... read them and try to see what works for you.. youll find yourself coming closer and closer to different philosophies that align with your own soul after a bit of searching.
By realizing I have no soul and am simply an amalgamation of the different parts of my brain.
Keep gazing into the void, it's comfy.
I put on some decent clothes and walk around Walmart for like 30 minutes. Even if I don't want to be there anymore I force myself to walk around for at least 30 minutes. Try to interact/smile at a few people along the way.
>>129532639
This will sound like the strangest thing but learn how to flex your ass. Whenever I've been caught in a state of despair or felt generally unpleasant I'd do a few sets of anal flexing (pulling the asshole in and pushing out) and my state of dread would vanish.
Sounds weird but it works. I'm doing them right now as I type this. Go ahead anon try it out.
>>129536542
Oops
I only do this when it gets really bad, like panic attack, trouble breathing.
>>129533452
The answer to this doesn't come with thinking, but the lack of thereof, it's the kind of thing where you either get it or don't. If you have to think about it, that proves where you stand in this: you're a clueless baby faggot.
>>129532639
You don't combat it you embrace it. You make it a part of your persona and only once you've truly committed will you start to see the world for what it really is. Red pills and blue pills aside all it comes down to is the world is shit and your average 99.9% human being is trash. Embrace the knowledge. Use it against them to better yourself.
It may feel like you're looking down on everyone with a superiority complex but you're not. There is nothing "wrong" with seeing reality for what it really is - a whirlwind of garbage.
>>129532639
Currently trying to combat it by searching for religion.
>>129532639
Nihilism
>>129536267
I'm a contraction worker. Specifically millwright and my lack of a degree makes me have existential dread all the time while I'm busting my ass all day whole some cockbag sits in an office and makes 3x more, even though my skill set is infinitely more useful
>>129532639
Death-acceptance, this world is nothing but evil
>>129532639
by realising that in death we return to the source. life makes us separate and life is the suffering which only death will resolve.
>>129532639
Do something constructive. Learn a language, grow a garden, draw, music, carve wood, whatever the fuck just do something. Make something new.
>>129537175
As a contraction worker, you've got a job of which they'd be envious.
But seriously, though, you have nothing to be dreadful about. You are merely experiencing jealousy and misinterpreting it as dread.
>>129535362
It is.
>>129537175
There's a killing to be made in millwork and trim carpentry, but you've got to run your own work. Start a business once you've learned enough to be able to do it.
>>129532639
I remember that Christ is real.
Other than that, I see no point in living. Its just an endless pursuit of gratification that will never be quenched, and wherever humans go they ruin, lie, cheat, steal. People are worse than animals because atleast the animals have the excuse of being too dumb to realize what they do. We can realize it but "we" carry on anyways with our pointless, unending sin.
>constantly disappointing parents
>every time I say I'll do better I make it 2-3 weeks into the semester with motivation and then it collapses until exam time
>have been either getting 60s/70s or barely passing for every course
>physically getting out to go to lectures is hard even though I live on campus
>this has been happening for years
It's not going to be easy but how do I fix this lads? It's the single biggest thing that makes me suicidal because it's a constant reminder that I don't have my shit together
Keep bettering yourself and the world around you. The rest will take its course.
>>129532639
By not being so A.I.
>>129537672
Get Vyvanse, life really will improve.
>1. Find/form a tribe
>2. Start a family
>3. Work out
>4. Become comfortable with being uncomfortable
>5. Quit degenerate behaviors
>6. ?????
>7. PROFIT
>>129532639
acetaminophen is your closest friend. it brings an end to your existential dread
Fascism
>>129536794
Nihilism is unfalsifiable and thus not worth accepting
>>129537877
I don't want to start relying on drugs as a crutch though, I feel like this is something I should be able to overcome myself
>>129532639
when shit in your life goes wrong and you're pissed off the fact that you exist doesn't really feel all that amazing to begin with anyhow
>>129537671
>I remember that Christ is real.
But, that's not true though. There's no such thing as Jesus.
>>129532639
Get your fear out of your system.
Wig out, go on a drinking binge, pray (or yell) at any God you choose, consider transhumanism, wig out again.
Coming to terms with death is all part of being a sapient being.
>>129538056
You certainly should be able to overcome it. But if you've found yourself consistently failing to do so, well it might be time to try another avenue.
>>129533178
I've started to do this by planting trees and shrubs in public places. If I see a patch of empty soil while driving around during the day, I'll go there at night and plant a lorapetalum or an oak tree. Linden trees are my favorite and I'm planning to start planting some in the spring - they will need to germinate in my refrigerator for four months beforehand. I've ordered a bag of seeds from the Ukraine. They are uncommon in the states, so I hope to plant as many as I can to propagate the species here. The Linden is an eternal symbol of beauty, love, and truth in Germanic and Slavic folklore.
I can't believe how many of you faggots are just realizing you consist of a bag of shit and organs and are one gay going to die with almost no proof of your existence. Welcome to adulthood, yes we all die and there is nothing you can do to prevent it. Fucking kids these days.
>>129532639
I go /out/. Out there when you are working on survival you don't think about much else.
>>129537907
Seriously though
http://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/experiencing-existential-dread-tylenol-may-do-the-trick.html
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130416085431.htm
https://www.livescience.com/28770-tylenol-eases-existential-dread.html
http://healthland.time.com/2013/04/19/tylenol-fights-fear-of-the-abyss/
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/04/whats-tylenol-doing-to-our-minds/275101/
http://www.businessinsider.com/tylenol-pain-existential-dread-2013-4
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/tylenol-fights-headachesand-existential-angst-25636081/
>>129539841
Fixed the unrachived clickbaiters
>https://theatlantic com/health/archive/2013/04/whats-tylenol-doing-to-our-minds/275101
https://archive.is/Q4hN1
>http://businessinsider com/tylenol-pain-existential-dread-2013-4
https://archive.is/stCpm
>>129532639
You need to UNDERSTAND that you will die, your loved ones will die, your achievements will die to combat existential dread.
If you do not believe in your own death you cannot comprehend existence and hence you dread it.
Also don't be a hero okay
>>129532639
>You can't always get what you want
>but if you try sometimes, you might find
>you get what you need
>>129532995
>>129533128
>>129532639
My Christian faith
>>129535362
but when you go to bed you expect to wake up. it'll happen eventually and you feel no time pass between going to sleep and waking up. if this scenario is true then you will NEVER have that waking up event. just think about it. it is literally the definition of terror.
>>129540149
Myth of Sisyphus is better for getting over the anxiety of meaninglessness.
Also, Being and Time
I got a BA in Philosophy and literally fear nothing anymore. Might also have been the extensive psychedelic use in college too.
>>129540149
>>129540258
>>129540378
No! Bad Russia! Bad! Do not post French postwar atheist existentialists!
>>129536267
>Dude lmao just be an unthinking cog in the societal machine
"no"
>>129540696
>Diogememes of Kekistope
>>129532639
Let me just speak for the countless /pol/aks that ended themselves: we didn't.
>>129532639
That's called having balls, in men talk.
>>129540696
Muth of Sisyphus is indeed goat, but it's not really a good introduction imho.
>>129540796
Why? Existentialism is literally the outlook that makes the most sense.
>>129540831
You can go back to overthinking things later. Do the manual labor first, and you will develop a whole new appreciation for existence.
A hundred fifty years ago 99% of people lived on an inflation adjusted less than $1 per day. They literally had to work constantly just to not starve to death or die from the winter because they couldn't afford fuel. And in horrific conditions compared to what we have today, too. Did they have existential angst? No they did not. Because working hard just to survive does not allow for the self hatred and depression of existential angst. Act like them just for long enough to get a sense of their perspective, and you will no longer experience angst.
Of course, everyone in Eastern Europe still lives that way.
>>129540831
This
He's literally saying to take the blue pill while we are in Zion. I wonder what his iq is.
>>129536446
this, basically. the answer is get interested in the processes that come together to give you the illusion of self.
>The Ego Tunnel | Thomas Metzinger
>Waking Up | Sam Harris
>The Conspiracy Against the Human Race | Thomas Ligotti
Best of luck, friend.
>>129533452
>>129540546
>if you're not depressed about dying, you haven't properly examined life
Or maybe I did and have come to terms with it? It's like any other unfortunate realization; you realize it, ponder it, and accept it. There's nothing you can do about it, why worry? You ultimately have no control over the situation, so there's no reason to even bother thinking about it. You will never get an answer until it happens to you too.
>>129532639
I play with my dick
>>129540696
rare diogenes
>You were dead once.
>You are alive now.
>You will be dead again.
If you went from dead to alive once, who knows, maybe it'll happen again.
>>129532639
if you accept that life is meaningless, then being depressed or morbid about your existence is also pointless.
Just live your life, we're all dead anyway
>>129541148
I remember being 17 too. Remember that Sartre only taught so he had access to a pool of college coeds to fuck, and Camus died in a car crash despite being paranoid of cars.
Realistically, though, existentialism is such a self absorbed philosophy that it stuns me that any thinking adult would follow it. You may as well just be a full blown nihilist at that point. Meanwhile, the Bible teaches us that we shall know a tree by its fruit. What is the fruit of existentialism? Who has ever been made better by it? What has anyone accomplished from being inspired by it
Nothing.
Beyond which, the major premise of existentialism, that existence precedes essence, may have been a cute idea in 1950, but at this point it is empirically false. Humans are not tabula rasa, but instead there's a very large part of you, perhaps the largest part, that is determined entirely by genetics. Remove that component, and the rest of existentialism is completely meaningless. Especially atheist existentialism, and of that ESPECIALLY the French variety which was a god damn abuse of the idea anyway.
So in other words, bad Russia! Go back to reading Dostoevsky instead.
>>129541330
>>129532639
By only existing within itself. That's how you make your reality real.
>>129539058
Good on you, anon.
>>129532639
by realizing that nothing means anything until you make it
and if you do nothing or make your life worthless itll be worthless, if you do things and find ways to occupy your time and give yourself something to strive for, then existential dread never becomes a problem
>>129532639
Once you come to terms with your mortality and realize it as the gift that it is you become much happier.
We only have to be on this world for a short time, then we are free.
We are not eternally bound to suffer from our mistakes for, well, eternity.
>>129541236
how is it blue pilled to be an existential nihilistic mess that never accomplishes anything?
Sure you're going to die, but to say that nothing you do matters is asinine.
>>129541162
Yeah well I did work 12 hour shifts 6 day a week for 7 months and it didn't really provide me with any relief except the fact that I finished my anime backlog because my social life was basically annihilated because of my work hours.
>>129541786
>how is it blue pilled to be an existential nihilistic mess that never accomplishes anything?
to not want to be*
>>129541826
From each according to his ability, comrade. Where is your sense of communist conscience?
By not being a faggot with this "problem" in the first place. Just chop your balls off like the woman you are
>>129532639
I sold my soul to a pre-Aryan goddess from the Caucuses region.
As far as I know, I'm the first person since the concept of an afterlife first existed who has followed her, so I have the complete and undivided attention of a pagan goddess, guaranteeing the immortality of my soul without regard for my conduct in this world.
>>129532822
Spbp
I, personally feel pretty ambivalent about death. Life is filled with suffering, pain, and broken promises so the fact that it will all be over with someday is deeply comforting when you're down. Of course, it is possible to extract meaning and beauty from life, trying to live for some ideal, because what else are you going to do? Killing yourself is just a waste.
>>129541570
I feel like you're completely missing the core principles by attacking existentialism from outside desu.
>Muh God
>Muh genetics
I'm sorry but i quite like my enlightenment values of "all men are born equal" and similar. Go live in a transhumanist dystopia if you want to, but don't force me in it.
>How does /pol/ combat existential dread?
I was until you mentioned it assfuck.
>>129542455
>lost the game doh
Consulting with the time traveling singularity.
>>129532639
Take a break from /pol/
>>129532639
get a job you faggot
>>129532639
I'm atheist, which basically results in a removal of a higher authority, right?
The problem with modern atheism is that they've replaced God with the State instead of the Self (capitals intended).
So with regards to Existentialism, which is basically the backend of Worldview, I see myself as my own authority, and I'm constantly aware of the fact that I am only what others think of me. Not in a petty sense, but in an existential sense of how I appear through their own worldview.
You then realise you have complete control of your life, and if you want to be X then all you have to do is act the part and move towards achieving it. This also creates an aversion to selfish impositions of other people onto your existential state (i.e. Don't Tread On Me).
The State has a purpose, sure. But it's not my mother and I'm not a child.
>>129541899
>Le memes xd
It was line cooking, an essentially non unionized profession where men are treated like cattle.
desu I did work in a unionized job (albeit for a much shorter - seasonal time) and the way I was treated was improved 10 fold.
Tbis is why I am and will remain a staunch unionist.
>>129532639
I USED TO COMBAT IT BY TALKING TO PEOPLE, THEN BY FUCKING, THEN BY LOVING. NOW I WALLOW IN IT. I AM THE EXISTENTIAL DREAD.
go out with friends, drink, go to concerts etc. do the things I won't be able to do when I'm fucking dead.
>>129532995
What comes after the giant bitch stage?
>>129533452
>curling up on the floor and crying like a faggot is introspective thought
no
>>129532639
By cracking a beer open and browsing /pol/.
>>129539841
>consume drugs
>there is no other way
>>129542673
>I AM THE EXISTENTIAL DREAD.
>>129532639
with weaponized autism
it's not the inevitability of death or even the absolute meaninglessness of existence that gets me, it's the moments I have where my ego model erodes that get me.
Dunno if its childhood trauma/drug use/too much philosophy or crappy upbringing, but my kernel of selfhood is really fragile and I frequently find myself disappearing/dissociating/derealizing. Not at all fun, boys.
>>129542829
based leaf got it right
>>129540258
>Sartre
Oh, please. He's ok but don't go saying he's some be all end all. Sartre fags are just like Peterson fags.
>>129542421
>anecdotes convince you to work against your own self interest.
>>129532639
/pol/
>>129539058
>be me, groundskeeper for city park
>mfw I mow and some nigger keeps planting saplings in the grass
>>129532639
You can't be existential if you have a responsibility, a duty, or a meaningful purpose you've set yourself to. To defeat existentialism, find that meaning. I unironically recommend listening to Jordan B. Peterson's full lectures on his Youtube channel. What you'll learn is everything you do has meaning. Everything.
>>129532639
Easy. I have worse shit going on in my life to worry about.
There is nothing to dread.
>>129542673
Is that like going ghost?
when pol proves it isnt full of useless larping kek
>>129538012
>"who gives a shit" is unfalsifiable
>>129542421
>i quite like my enlightenment values of "all men are born equal"
But this is literally untrue. You can believe it all you want, but that's akin to believing the sky is purple or believing in a geocentric universe. If your philosophy is predicated on a patent falsehood, then it will never get you anywhere.
>>129540641
Not really. Terror involves screaming people and muslims
>>129532639
God. Oh and vidya and music is nice too.
>>129532639
going outside tends to work. find something to do, some labor perhaps.
When I realized existential dread is meme and doesn't really exist
>>129543120
What even is existential dread? Fear of a short lifespan in a endless universe?
>>129542967
>Dunno if its childhood trauma/drug use/too much philosophy or crappy upbringing
its all of it anon. such is life.
>>129542967
I know those feels. I remember back in primary school I'd have what would now be called "existential crises" but at the time I called them "reality attacks". The class would be sitting in the library for a story or something, and I'd suddenly become completely aware of the meaningless (in a neutral sense) and the constructed-ness of the situation I was in, and all interpersonal relationships are merely implied. The structure and layout of the library was only a convenient shorthand for things we used to do and was in no way an absolute truth.
Then I'd go back to listening to the story. It faded by about puberty I guess.
>>129543198
>or believing in a geocentric universe.
Technically, given that there is no objective center of the universe, the subjective center is indeed geocentric.*
*Assuming you're on Earth.
>>129543279
>What even is existential dread?
underage b&
>>129543318
I'm 35 so I guess I'm not gonna get lucky and become a real boy...
>>129533452
Real men study their demons, then destroy them.
You can have introspective thoughts without succumbing to the void.
>>129543508
I'm 32. My thoughts on the whole topic are >>129542624
>>129543459
Lad. You shove it up yer ass, okay. Tell me you dreadfulite, what do you feel when you are thinking like an existentialist that, dreads?
Gnosis.
>>129543318
>primary school
you poor soul. i was too busy being a kid then. i wasn't doing dread until my 20s lol
>>129532639
I meditate, it's a great way to befriend the void. It will eat up your dread, if you let it.
myth of Sisyphus is a pile of shit
>just tell yourself you're happy when you're clearly not lol embrace the absurd xD
Fuck off
>>129532639
GET GOOD
>>129543729
>void
I love when people imply this exists despite the fact that there isn't even the faintest bit of evidence for it.
>>129543590
well, I agree that every man is captain of his own destiny and that the best course of life is to throw yourself boldly into it, but my brain is always in this "imitate how a real person would act" mode. I'm really good at it (successful, liked, married, etc etc.) but it's obviously not the same as people whose naive realism allows them to be fully "in" their own lives. I'm just a meat thing that's perpetually aware that it feels like it should be a self...and isn't.
>>129543821
Careful anon. The existentialists are sensitive about these things.
>>129543821
are you attempting to call bullshit on the existence of nonexistence? bold move!
>>129532639
These new things called hobbys
I've given up on being a normal well adjusted person. I don't have real friends and I'm terrible with women. I just try to make do and wait until I die. Suicide is still an option.
>>129532639
I get a really fucked up fear when I think about the universe. Like what is outside of it. Could we cease to exist at any moment because of outside forces we cannot hope to father or control?.
Build you inside to outside yourself to the world I think.
>>129543703
>what do you feel
hard to say really. you'll know when it hits you. its kinda like emptiness mixed with panic cuz there's no escape
Cold showers, vitamin D, smiling at neighbours, lifting and guitar solos
>>129540149
Shit book
>>129544092
You don't have to think of it any longer unless you want to try to engineer a way to stop it.
Otherwise, you can only wait for the spacetime collapse or what have you. And, it may not happen.
>>129543762
Gardening is a Sisyphean task, but people take great pleasure in it. It's not an illogical philosophy.
FUCKING NORMKIE COMIC BULLSHIT STOP THINKIING YOUR LIFE IS FUCKING TERRIBLE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>129541623
Thanks anon!
>>129543082
:(
I avoid places where the grass is trimmed for precisely this reason.
>>129533178
That's a weird way to say "commit genocide"
>>129544108
You could have been phytoplankton. But instead you get to shitpost. Be more grateful we won the damn lottery.
>>129532639
Peer into the abyss. If you survive.
It's the key.
Worship the Holy Trinity in the Orthodox Church. Worship is one of man's most foundational instincts -- everywhere man has been he erects shrines and temples to honor That which is greater than himself. Those who say "handle it" or similar responses are just trying to rationalize their suppression of their own humanity.
God exists, read about Saints Paisios and Porphyrios for some of the most poignant and recent examples of His active operation. Wounded by Love is a fantastic spiritual primer.
>>129544493
i'd rather be a bird tbqh
>>129538150
>There's no such thing as Jesus.
>>129543995
Basically. There's this assumption that if there's a state of "existence" that there also must be a state of "nonexistence", despite the fact that there's no evidence for it. It's very possible that subjective existence is all there is, was, or ever will be.
I find most atheists and agnostics(I'm one) make a gnostic presumption of there being an infinite void despite the extreme lack of evidence, and in fact, there being evidence against it. If you consider death to be the end of your being's conscious existence, there's no difference as far as anyone can tell between what comes both before or after life. Yet you still went from being "dead" to becoming "alive" somehow from a physical standpoint. This isn't concrete evidence for reincarnation or what-have-you, but if we apply occam's razor, I'd say that some kind of reincarnation is more likely than void, simply due to the fact that the prior at least has a proof of concept.
>>129533178
What? Be friends with the people destroying white people?
>>129543327
Incorrect. If the Big Bang Theory is correct, the origin point of the explosion is the center of the universe.
>>129532639
I pretend my life is a movie
>>129532639
am I the onlyone who both acknowledges my uselessness in time yet doesnt care/isn't scared of it?
like when I die I die lmao ill be dead. i cant possibly stress over it ive tried but whatever
>>129545098
>Incorrect. If the Big Bang Theory is correct, the origin point of the explosion is the center of the universe.
I don't think you understand how inflation and expansion occurred/occurs. "Everywhere" is the center. The universe didn't explode outward from a single point that already existed, the universe itself was a singularity that expanded outward in all directions.
>>129545263
No, all of us leafs have this exact attitude. This is why the future belongs to us.
>>129544733
Toast if you break a wing or beak.
>>129544906
kind of hard to put these things in terms of "evidence" right -- past a certain timestamp, discussion of "reality"/"the universe"/"whatever" becomes a question of cosmic background radiation and math, right? I'm not sure anyone is arguing for the existence of a literal infinite void...we know that spacetime itself is finite. But i think fags around here are tossing around the metaphorical void in terms of "that which cannot be reasoned with or rationalized, and remains all consuming in its resistance to human desire for order/purpose/warm fuzzies."
I've got no answers, but it seems worthwhile to define terms. also, I'd take issue with your idea that people go from "dead" to "alive"...that's not really what's happening. Matter just gets arranged into a complex electrochemical state for a while and we call that stuff "life" but it's not magically different from other matter.
>>129545432
Same in America lol
>>129532818
Fpbp as usual
>>129532639
By cleaning my room.
>>129545362
epicurus was the original leaf
>Why should I fear death?
>If I am, then death is not.
>If Death is, then I am not.
>Why should I fear that which can only exist when I do not?
>>129532822
I must be immune. I've been shit posting here for half a decade and I'm still atheist.
>>129543578
You can never get rid of them and your demons are precious parts of you. You have to defeat them every time they show up, it's not a one time thing.
>>129532639
drinking and crippling depression
>>129545356
Singularity just means something that our math can't model. There once was a single point in time and space that contained everything. The location of that point is the center of the universe.
>>129543821
To me the void is not a concept, but an experience of "nothingness". I'm not claiming it's really "out there", but many people can feel it for themselves, especially after some training in meditation.
>>129545824
it can't *have* a location ipso facto // there's no space apart from that singularity
I don't, /pol/. I don't.
I'm deathly afraid. I don't know what to do or think. Nothing has helped.
I've distracted myself for so long that it just doesn't work anymore. I'm struggling to manage. The only reason I haven't done it yet is because I love my dog and worry about how it'll affect my family too much. I went on a vacation recently for a month, I almost didn't manage. My dog is the reason I wake up every morning.
I don't know if I can manage much longer. I refuse to die an asshole and just abandon everyone, but I don't know what to do. I'm my grandfathers world. He always wanted a son, and never had one. He'd be crushed if I did it. He wouldn't go on. He'd become nothing.
He's worried about me. He's worried I'm not doing enough with my life. He thinks I'm wasting my life.
I just don't know what to do.
It's just all so crushing.
>>129545696
You need to learn the 'Litany of Fear'...Shi-Hulud is proud of us...
>>129546074
Confirmed. However, note that Arrakis required a based white god emperor from a noble house to organize its superstitious mud people into a useful galactic force.
>>129546068
You should phone a helpline, cobber. And maybe ease up on this place with all its negativity. I was in a similar situation a few years back. Every morning my first thought was of suicide, and the feeling of disappointment that I was alive. Same reasons stopped me as what are stopping you.
Remove all negative influences from your life. Phone a helpline if you think it would help, and just unload onto them. Sometimes talking brings it into reality and that's the catalyst you need. Seek a new direction, even if it's just some shitty job (I started working in a liquor store just for something to do, and it helped).
I hope you work through this, because I know first hand it's possible. Even if it seems impossible now.
Escapism.
When it hits you it hits you and there's nothing you can do about it. Just gotta wait it out until the escapism becomes enjoyable again.
>>129543198
It is indeed a spook, but a spook that literally benefits everyone, so I'll keep believing it.
>>129546068
meh it happens to the best of us. but its temporary in a sense. just lie down until it passes lol
>his existential philosophy isnt a combination of Heidegger, Kierkegaard, and Camus
Get on my level
>>129546068
Live directly for him -- negate yourself and your neurosis by becoming the man HE would like you to be -- whether that it through professional success, physical fitness, moral uprightness, whatever. Choice paralysis is the disease of our generation. Just pick a noble purpose and go for it man. People over 60 tend to value good stuff -- clean living, family, modest wealth, social responsibility, western values etc. Just listen to them and block out all the horseshit that comes from everyone that's 20-55.
>>129546068
I find it difficult to care about things anymore.
What's the point. There's so much wrong with the world. It's scary. So many problems. So many people in trouble or pain. It hurts to think about.
My grandfather recently said I play video games too much. It made me realize it's all I do. All I do is continue to try and distract myself. Because I'm too scared of what will happen when I stop.
I realized, recently, that one of the things I've always wanted in life is impossible now.
I cried for hours. I was this close to it.
I'm scared of what'll happen the next time.
>>129546068
Hang on for your grandfather anon, be the best son you can be to him. If he's the wise old man type talk to him, let him help you find something to give your life meaning.
>>129544297
I agree, but it's a good primer to existentialism.
Can't prove me wrong
>>129532639
>existential dread
Stop being a bitch.
Give yourself purpose and pursue it rabidly.
Don't be disuaded.
Charge on.
If new revelations come, change paths and charge on without hestation.
>>129546643
the only reason to believe something is because it's true. anything else is mindpoisoning nonsense.
>>129545263
t. Early Sartre
>>129546835
Yes I can. The Stranger is a primer into Absurdism, not Existentialism.
>>129546935
rekt
>>129532639
relationships
Considering killing myself would mean I stop existing, why the fuck would I need any other excuse to keep going?
>>129546732
>Choice paralysis
i.e. lost in the infinite. read Kierkegaard for those wanting to know more. protip: you can be lost in the finite as well. You need to make a double move, as it were
I tanked it for the past decade, kept my head down and worked.
Now, out of a job, and about see a doc for my psych and stress health issues, I'm gonna let it out. My knowledge that this is all meaningless and nothing good will come from anything. "I'm ready to leave anytime now". Either I get disability and can transfer to neet mode, or I get "recommended" for hospitalization, again. That or "cheer up emo kid, get back to work", aka, I buy some helium.
Either way, I got more out then I put in, and I'm cool with that.
>>129546905
I don't follow the IDs in this thread, but if you're Christian anon, that's pretty hypocritical.
>>129532639
nothing you can do about it, so clean your damn room!
>>129547041
definitely not a christian
>>129546068
Don't do it faggot. I was also like this, I just wished I could disappear and have everybody forget about me so that my family, specially my mom, wouldn't feel sad. But that can't happen, and I love my mom too much to make her go through that. If you love your grandfather like that, do it for him.
Also nobody would take care of my cats either.
You're gonna have to get through this yourself. I found something to look forward to in my life. It's stupid but I love it. Find something to motivate you and things might get better. I think I changed my died too, now I eat a lot more different things, that might help too.
>>129532995
>>129533452
>>129542735
Do we need to make a brain meme for this shit?
>>129532639
simpe : dont think about it theres literally no way you will escape death. you Will die someday. so why waste your time wasting a sigle thought on something inevitbale and unstoppable
>>129547066
i have seen the original comic as well
>>129532639
By choosing to find and pursue interests. Right now I'm into music theory, it's really interesting how all of those sounds can be arranged so many ways to produce such beauty.
Honestly, you just have to accept that life is meaningless until you to work to create that meaning.
>>129546935
Go to bed Hudon, I think you're supposed to be dead or something
>>129546535
I've tried to get a job. I've applied everywhere. Even places that weren't accepting. Nothing called back.
Everytime we talk be brings up how I need to get a job. It's a concern to him. And I feel terrible.
>>129546711
It's been temporary for years.
>>129546732
I've tried, I just can't do it. I'm so pathetic. I can't manage what he wants.
>>129547192
I don't have anything to look forward to. I've lost any reason to care. I've tried and it's just nothing
The days go on and on... they don't end. All my life needed was a sense of someplace to go. I don't believe that one should devote his life to morbid self-attention, I believe that one should become a person like other people.
>>129532639
anyone else here not even want to be happy? it seems empty compared to feelings of religious zeal, supernatural/paranormal experiences, altered states of higher consciousness.
Try making artwork, or something creative. Justifying your existence is not easy!
>>129532639
Easy. I accept who I am. That's it. People who have this existential dread are often had low self-esteem.
>>129532639
Knowledge of the second coming.
>>129547338
Define dead first.
>>129547363
You need to have a big heart-to-heart with your granddad. Let him know what you're going through. If he wants to be a father to a son, that would be his big opportunity. For all you know he has a friend whose nephew is looking for someone for a job or something.
>People who have this existential dread are often had low self-esteem.
Probably Dunning-Kruger. Dumb people can't experience existential dread, and surprise, they often think very highly of themselves. Not an argument.
>>129547363
I didn't have anything either nigger, it was just days and days of emptiness, of being tired of life, of not wanting to do anything, of unhappiness, of suicidal thoughts. And then one day I found it, by complete accident.
But now you know that you need to find something, so you keep looking for it until you do. You know what the solution is, now you just need to look for the thing that'll let you get there.
>>129547476
I would, but I can't. He's opinionated and headstrong. He's not the type for that.
Even if he had a friend like that, I couldn't. He's all the way on the opposite side of the country.
>>129547710
>I would, but I can't. He's opinionated and headstrong. He's not the type for that.
You'd be surprised what people like that are capable of. Maybe I'm wrong, you're the one who knows him. But I've seen very hard men soften up when something's genuinely wrong.
>>129547710
At that point, just arbitrarily pick something that has a chance to pay off big and just work on it. If nothing comes of it, fine, KYS. But if you have time and a worthless life, you have the materials for greatness.
My recommendation would be: gym and altcoin speculation.
>>129546068
>>129547013
>>129547363
>>129547710
take a leap of faith faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkh2TXCHpNs
for me, i avoid weed
>>129547946
harsh, but fair
>>129547787
I don't know, I'm scared of him giving up on me. I'm already afraid of that, since I'm such a fuck up I can't even manage what he wants me to be. If I admit it he might give up.
All I want is for him to be proud of me.
I've tried to stop thinking about things from an existential perspective because it hinders my personal growth, but some times when I forget to take my medication for a day and go to sleep, I'll have incredibly vivid dreams that feel insanely good to exist in and then I'll wake up, but the feeling of being in a dream kind of persists for a long time after I wake up. I start getting uncomfortable and hyperaware of all of the sensory feedback I'm getting, like the positions of my organs and the bones under my muscle tissue, and I don't feel okay until hours after I've taken the jew pill. It's just really fucking jarring because it feels like I've been pulled out of one reality and put into another where I don't understand anything, but information slowly becomes available again as I calm down.
The weird thing is I can't remember if dreams were always like this or not. I don't know if the pharmaceutical jew suppresses the intensity of my dreams or what, but I don't believe people are supposed to feel like this.
>>129548053
tough love i guess. at least he loves his dog.
I drop a heavy dose of LSD and chase existentialism itself through the primordial jungles of grotesque reality.
>>129532639
By convincing myself there is an objective purpose that I am just unaware of. It is actually pretty fun it makes the universe into a big mystery.
Excessive masturbation
>>129548275
nothing there you're just doing drugs
start a family have kids be a good man clean your room. it's not that complicated.
>>129547376
Such a good movie
Travis Bickle is my spirit animal
>>129532639
When I start dreading existence, I take comfort in knowing it will all be over soon.
I try not to think about the infinite Boltzmann Brain versions of me that spring into existence via quantum fluxuations in the cold vacuum of space during the universe's degenerate era only to suffer briefly and die like the whale in Hitchhikers Guide, appearing in a bad situation, sown on stony ground
>>129548383
Okay kike
>>129548243
i guess the big thing is that depression keeps you from wanting to solve your depression...that's why they call it that. A person sufficiently below the required serotonin threshold has like, full on anhedonia, which might be keeping them alive. If a super depressed person feels a little better, they might get enough energy/personal willpower to an hero. So be cautious about prescribing solutions to super damaged anons on the internet...
>>129532639
I dont, it embodies me
>>129548177
Well with that goal in mind, what will achieve it?
>suicide
No
>Staying as you are
No
We're running out of choices, m80
Get /fit/ and dress well (chinos and polos, nothing else for now). Change.
>>129532639
I have my goals that I've set for myself and make sure to accomplish them. The focus is solid.
>>129532639
Lots of cocaine, ketamine, and kratom.
>>129548531
>super damaged anons on the internet
meh he's shitposting on 4chan. he's alright.
>>129532910
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=654CdfMEOoc
1. I think, do I belong on R9K?
2. I answer, of course not.
dealt with.
I have multiple romantic relationships and spend all my time thinking about the problems and joys that they bring.
I am also a recovering addict and the bestial nature of my struggles there do distract me from more elemental fears.
>>129532639
>>129533144
I'm actually starting to come to this conclusion about these thoughts too. Existentialist thoughts are definitely important to spend time grappling with, but if you take them to their logical conclusions your life will become a living hell
>>129546851
>Stop being a bitch
Music that is louder than your moodiness helps. Build a mp3 library
>>129532639
The good news is. We'll all be dead in 100 years. Although science is trying to give us hope about longevity and regaining youth, I think it's all bullshit and the new religion. We all will die. Even if we manage to add another 100,999 years. Eventually the sun will explode. Eventually atoms will decay. There's nothing you can do. Hence, be happy you're mortal. Be happy all of your problems are just temporary. Can't take the money with you when you die. Neither debt, love, worry, happiness and all of your existential problems. Life is just a glimpse. A vacation from non existence. I personally think it's a nice treat after all those billions of years of not existing and not giving a fuck about existence.
Once we die we won't even know we existed. It's the biggest tragedy and yet the biggest relief. Who wants to be forever sad? And who wants to be forever happy? Eternal consciousness is hell. It's filled with endless regrets and endless days to do everything until you get bored and actually want to die.
I deal with it like a fucking man
>awake in bed
>contemplate my own mortality
>really think hard about the fact that I will die one day
>after 70 years (average time) no one on the earth will ever even know I existed making my entire life pointless
>have a panic attack and hyperventilate until I pass out
>wake up the next day and think about suicide 5+ times even though I'm too pussy to go through with it
>>129549388
Jews made people want everything in a very short amount of time. They are the devil. Be content lke Jesus. Little will do. Wanting everything in a very short amount of time will only create frustration and suffering. Don't be greedy. Simple pleasures will do.
By cleaning my room.
>>129549388
>consciousness is hell. It's filled with endless regrets and endless days to do everything until you get bored and actually want to die.
This is the problem for some people. No t death, but living this short apparently meaningless life.
>>129543578
You can't defeat death, anon.
I'm just looking for a purpose, I feel so tired all the time, even though I sleep all night until midday and shitpost most of my free time so I don't expend much energy. I always want to fill the hole with a waifu, but I'm not worthy of waifu until I fill the whole with true meaning, because that is not healthy otherwise.
>>129549699
Meaning is a human construct. Seen from the vast space of the universe.... everyone's life is meaningless. Even Einstein or mother Theresa will eventually just fade into oblivion 1 million years from now. Thinking your life has to have meaning is a huge waste of time. However, you can still create a wonderful experience for yourself and your fellow existencians.
>>129532639
Nonexistence is the final pill.
>>129532639
Accepting that death, decay, and perversion can be conquered by belief in Christ
>>129549388
I disagree. Life is great in its ups and downs. In fact, there's so many more things for humanity to do. We haven't yet scratched the surface of our potential. If you live your life as you should, you won't ever get bored.
>>129550039
Tell that to >>129549894 et al.
>>129550039
what I'm trying to say is life doesn't have to have a deeper meaning. It's just an experience. Animals are very good at this. They just experience reality without any further purpose or deeper meaning.
>>129548192
I wish I had dreams like that, mine always seem suppressed and blurry, like I'm a man without his glasses observing some occurrence.
>>129532639
You don't
>>129543578
>destroy them
uh oh, be careful when they emerge again when you least expect, they can not be destroyed. You must enter a mutual respect with your demons, create a relationship with them in which they can never act in your stead but will be glad to come to your aid when you need them in dire situations. Ancient tales speak of binding demons, black magick.
>>129550291
t. Alan watts
yes life is a dance. but it includes both idgaf and anxious dancers as well for some reason.
>>129536067
Got this in a size I can read?
>>129550205
That's kind of what I was trying to get to. I personally would need another 1000 years to do all the things I would like to do. Like hike around the planet. Sail around the planet... not just once but many times... etc... it takes a lot of time. 80 years really isn't enough. Just look what you can do once you enter the work force. I now spend 15 years working... chances are in another 15 years I will amount to about the same progress as the last 15 years. People don't change. Habits prevail. So with my habits I would need another 1000 years to do it all. lol
>>129550591
>for some reason
They counter balance each other, you paying attention?
>>129550684
t. Lao Tzu
how's that for paying attention?
>>129550818
>t. Lao Tzu
>how's that for paying attention?
bretty gud I suppose, it's more important however to realize the moment than to realize those who have realized the moment
I used to have the worst panic attacks ever. For 2 or 3 years straight I was having panic attacks probably over 30 times a day. When you are having panic attacks that much you literally don't exist anymore. You dont feel like you are in reality. I dont really get existential dread because I have literally been to the brink of insanity and back.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I dont get panic attacks anymore just general anxiety.
>>129550950
"Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek rather what they sought."
>>129543164
In Pennsylvania, not giving a shit is only rivaled by not getting involved in our people's tradition
>>129532889
cheers
>none of these faggots realise that this life was just the tutorial stage for the next life and when you die you ascend to the 4th dimension until you eventually die there as well and ascend to the 5th dimension and so on and so forth until we reach a significantly high dimension that gives us enough control of the laws of physics to be considered an omnipotent god then we all create our own universes and our own human race and the cycle repeats itself
>mfw
>>129550591
Alan Watts and Eckhart Tolle are a good start.
>>129551208
precisely
>>129546637
>Just gotta wait it out until the escapism becomes enjoyable again.
How long is the wait supposed to be?
Y'all niggas need to read some Ecclesiastes as well, if you haven't already. It's pure redpill.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+1
>>129551331
Oooooohhh fuuuggggg
>>129532639
They post on /pol/ and roleplay as Nazis.
>>129551469
Last time it happened I had to wait like two weeks.
Endure it faggot.
>>129532639
I hit myself in the head to the point where physical pain is stronger than the psychological.
And every time i do it i become dumber so i will not suffer from existential dread in the future
The problem is everyone including me thinks they are special and immune to tragedy and health issues. Unfortunately we will all face ill health at some point. Now or when we're old fucks. Just 1000 years ago the average lifespan was around 40 years. We're lucky we were born now and not 1000 years ago. Existentialism used to be way worse. Nobody had a cure or ideas to prolong life back then. That's why they came up with religion. It served it purpose. Nowadays it's science. Nobody wants to die. Nobody wants to give up a billion dollar jackpot. In our case... we know have valuable life is. It's like winning the lottery. And like people who have gotten used to a certain lifestyle. They don't wanna go back to poverty. It's the same with life. Once you know how cool it can be to be alive you don't wanna go back to unconsciousness and non existence for the rest of eternity.
>>129532639
Fap it all out
>>129532639
Get depressed. But I usually keep myself busy: hiking, playing guitar or drums, watching movies and tv shows, vidya, /pol/, etc. When I stop, that's when I start getting existential depression, thinking about life and death, good and evil, the value of life, the afterlife, infinity, chaos and order, etc. Feels bad man. That's why I watch Jordan Peterson a lot.
What does it mean to have the last post on an existential thread
does it bring "meaning" to the meaningless
>>129537896
> How do you deal with [life problem] /pol/?
> MAN UP, RAISE A FAMILY, STOP BEING DEGENERATE every time
Not a helpful answer when existential dread is the cause of many degenerate behaviors in the first place.
heal the sick, save the children or dwarf dolphins.
I work and engage in hedonistic activity
I would be religious but it's pretty much impossible for me to ever believe anything after being an atheist all my life
>>129552867
fucking leaf
Only had that really badly when I turned 25 and moped around for a bit. Then I came to my senses and realized that I'm a simple person that just wants a simple life and I was expecting too much of myself. I'm much happier now and find fulfillment in volunteering and being neighborly.
why do leafs exist, they serve no meaningful purpose now
>>129552899
is that how you combat the existential dread
the last light to fade into dusk
It helps to know there is someone worse then yourself
I may be depressed now but a Canadian will always be a leaf
that brings me hope
go to sleep
what if existential threads never end
>>129537896
Solid advice, desu
>>129535362
Literally my life, I have solved it with alcohol. Sometimes there isn't enough
is that our fate, no end, just is
alcohol only dulls existential pain, then you wake up and try to believe that today will be different knowing it isnt
then how long today, how long can I resist the dulling of the existential pain
I got a girlfriend. GF showed me the truth. much better to be in existential pain then true horror of crazy fucking women. But , I no prince myself
>>129553614
I used to drink and be constant high, it won't make it better. Face reality like a man, understand there is a spiritual world you can tap into.
why don't truly abhorrent people repel each other like magnets
>>129553862
spirit wrld even worse
when will this existential pain end
>>129553963
I like happy ghost existential man. He makes me laugh. I forget pain when I laugh
My GF made me laugh. Mostly in relief because she dont kill me yet
>>129553935
I advice you to take a shower.
I want to die, but I don't want her to kill me
>>129554239
I know. Clean my room. Make my bed. So here I sit with my clean body on clean sheets in this existential thead
Does it never go away this existential thread
will reddit spacing make it go away
OP here.
Thanks for all the (You)s.
They helped me get through another evening in this inherently meaningless world of ours.
I hope everyone finds something to sufficiently distract them from the brutal, uncaring nature of our universe.
>>129539058
That's really nice. I want to be your friend
>>129554522
If you want a good distraction and knowledge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE0pvAOCRbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXuTt7c3Jkg
>>129553963
>the last vehicle at the drive through is a helicopter
be a good man, find a white virgin wife, pump eight kids out of her and you will die happy
Lol just get a woman to fuck you pathetic bitch boys.
>>129539058
that really is a beautiful tree
if its all meaningless
do what you want
i want a big family
i will do that
there is nothing else!
sad
its actually a reassuring feeling
knowing its all for nothing
all your fuck ups will be nothing soon
your failures are meaningless
your achievements and happy moments will die with you
washing away like tears in the rain
like a secret that has been forgotten
comfy
and now this thread is dying too
a metaphor for life?
once it's over it's over
never to come back to life again
did this thread has meaning?
confusing
>>129532639
Grab it by the pussy
running out of time
this thread will end
and my words will end with it
did this really occur?
is this what the creator intended?
despair
this thread is locking away now
my words will be locked in here!
maybe not forever
maybe not for all of time
but in a very special space and time, these words were typed
never to be repeated ever again
how special and great
wonderful