Peterson or Molyneux? Who is more intelligent?

Peterson is more philosophically intelligent while moly is historically oriented

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1+1 = 2 Jordan Peterson just repeats what people on /pol/ say and Stefan just repeats what Jordan says

>>129521569
>Stefan
>Peterson
>Intelligent

You're a brainlet.

>>129521569
molniu is a complete hackand jew as well ok

Am I alone in thinking Molyneux is one of the greatest thinkers of our time?

>>129521569
Peterson is probably a bit smarter. Stefan fights the battle while Peterson is fighting the meta battle.

>>129521976
yes kys cuck get of /pol/ normie

>>129522201
shut up fagit. molypoo has an iq of 150 at least and yours is hovering around a measly 100

>>129521976
yes. he's a pretty good researcher for his videos. brilliant thinker is a massive stretch

>>129522201
haha please tell me my IQ as you are clearly an independent thinker STFU sheep

>>129521569
molyneux is pretty good at gathering information (even though it's incredibly biased), and peterson is really good at explaining complex topics from relatively obscure and hard to understand philosophers

peterson also has the whole father figure going on too, which is helpful for some here

>>129521569

Peterson but that's more of a comment on Molyneux than on Peterson

>>129521833
Anyone who claims to have a high IQ should prove it by programming a 3D game from scratch, physics engine and all. Anyone who can't is a brainlet.

>>129521569
Peterson has no coherent philosophy that I can discern. Molyneux is nigger tier and appeals to ignorant, uneducated people.

>>129521569
Jordan Peterson has an IQ of maybe 180
molymeme has an iq of maaayybe 125

>>129521569
Peterson definitely. One does need a fairly high IQ (> 130) to be able to read, understand and articulate philosophers like Nietzsche.

>>129523009
That's a tiny sliver of intelligence, try being a software developer, entrepreneur and an online celebrity with the biggest philosophy show on the planet. Molypoo is literally 1 in 1000 in terms of IQ.

>>129523173

Peterson does not have a coherent philosophy, but he does understand scientism for the fake that it is. That's a step above most of people in academia.

>>129523416

everyone and their mom reads Nietzsche tho

Peterson easy, OP probably smarter than moly, moly is just eloquent, on that pop sci "intelligence".

>>129523593
agreed that Jordan isn't complete YET, but he at least is moving to save the humanities from cultural marxism

>>129523772

Yes. And everyone and their mom designs and builds rockets as well.

high IQ is worthless if you have a damaged psychology/lack of self knowledge. these two are mentally free enough to make full use of their significant cognitive abilities

>>129521569
Molyneux probably has higher raw IQ but has autism or some pesonality disorder (he seems socially inept).

Peterson has average-high IQ but is more socially functional.

This is a frequently seen disjunction between professional, academic types who can play the game well but are not all that orginal (120-130 IQ) and crackpot outsiders whose high-autistic IQs make them 'a bit special' (140+ but socially retarded).

>>129523892
I don't think you're seeing Peterson's main contribution. His main contribution is showing people with no inclination towards humanities (like me and probably most autists here) that there may be something worth reading in the humanities.

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>>129524004
worthless for those thinking about politics and philosophy that is

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>>129523423
thats only 1 sliver of the IQ of Joe Rogan a fighter, hunter and multi millionaire!

>>129521569
>IQ of these gentlemen
I have no idea.
But Molymeme is a disengenious twat who prefers debate wins over actually furthering his own knowledge. Peterson has the more coherent worldview so I give the likeable person award to Peterson

>>129524167
i fall under that umbrella without doubt and i do agree with that, he is how i became interested, but with his funding campaign he is intending to give a college level education to people without the marxist dribble

>>129523593
>he does understand scientism for the fake that it is

He's way too quick to recommend anti-depressant drugs despite mountains of evidence they're terrible for you physically and mentally. His daughter also went on a gluten free diet which cleared up her depression and some other health issues, then he went on a gluten free diet and had similar positive effects, then he said there was no link between gluten and health because there "wasn't enough evidence"

>>129522864
actually good leaf post

>>129524116
solid

>>129524255
Exactly - Joe Rogan is literally more intelligent than 99.9% people on the planet. Somebody less intelligent than him could probably calculate the math behind that statistic.

>>129523972
Rocket science is overrated. It's not that hard.

>>129524446

I really do not care about accredited college level humanities education. No one is going hire you because you're accredited as a top 1 percentile in some branch of humanities.
He wants to put videos with interesting arguments online, and listening to them and mulling over them are what I'm more interested in.

>>129524116
Probably this.

t. professional autist

Peterson - IQ of 145-150
Molyneux - IQ of 130 to 140

I'm about as smart as Molyneux.

>>129521569
why do they both look like they just got out of bed

>>129523229
peterson said his iq is about 150 or 160 (i don't remember which). it was in a (the most recent?) live patreon q&a on youtube.

>>129524453
>His daughter also went on a gluten free diet which cleared up her depression and some other health issues, then he went on a gluten free diet and had similar positive effects, then he said there was no link between gluten and health because there "wasn't enough evidence"
That is correctly refraining from making claims to avoid false discoveries (and scientism).

I don't get his anti-depressant stuff. But there is no way in hell, I'm going to ingest anything like that.

>>129524760
>I really do not care about accredited college level humanities education. No one is going hire you because you're accredited as a top 1 percentile in some branch of humanities
Agreed, and that is my interest as well, though i think Jordan is attempting to make a "real world" difference i cannot applaud that enough.

>>129521569
Peterson. Nobody who took leftie thespian classes can ever be that smart.

But neither of them are that intelligent. Anything less than 200 IQ is a brainlet

If you don't have a Darwinian view on intelligence, where intelligence is based on how you pragmatically assert yourself as a social and biological organism, then you should probably stay in bed tomorrow.

>>129524641
No it's not. Hardly any closed form equations that approximate the system well exist. Intuition and simulations are the way to go there. That makes rocket science hard.

>>129525045
this guy gets it

>>129521569
Well, they are both smart, but at the same time both also overrated as intellectuals. Especially Peterson. He's smart, obviously, but I swear I see people on the internet talking as if he's the Socrates of our time or some shit.

>>129525102
Agreed. He's a real rarity for academia, which consists roughly speaking of just charlatans trying to con funding agencies into giving them money.

>>129521569
>>129523229

peterson talks about his IQ"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GSUG_B-new

watch from 1:16:04

>>129523229
Stefan is a little over 100 or so I remember reading in the comments section of one of his videos. He's really not that intelligent, you can clearly tell by some of his arguments.

>>129525386
He's to the 'intellectuals' of our time, what Socrates was to the intellectuals of his time.
That does not mean he's anywhere near as brilliant as Socrates was. Most of his fame is from understanding and articulating stuff people though of before him. The sad part is not many other 'intellectuals' today can do that.

>>129521833
Yeah, these guys are basically brain dead. PJW is the real intellectual.

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>>129525575
<150 hot diggity

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>>129521569
>divide and conquer
>not accepting Canadians as the pinnacle of modern Western thought
>tfw currently reading Lauren's magnum opus

Moly all the way

>>129525681
But he's not even doing that, though.
What has Peterson done that makes him so smart? I really don't get it. Talking about the jungian archetypes?
There have been people who have articulated that better than him, for instance.

Peterson is definitely not to the intellectuals of our time, the same as Socrates was. No.
Most of his fame came because he got lucky, by standing up against idiots on a university.

>>129525955
why

>>129526147
Better actually useful social skills, less autistic, more influential.

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>>129525884
oh geez. i hope nobody notices.

>>129526131
Peterson sees the archetypal structure in the bible and explains it in a way that provides, at least for me, a way with which to decipher parts of life

>>129521569
>Molyneux
Empowerment through facts

>Peterson
Axiom vomitter

Both intelligent, but Molyneux is indisputably more intellectual and fact-oriented than Peterson. The former is like Morpheus, the latter is trying to be everyone's father, both have merit in these respects.

>>129523009
*Tips fedora*

>>129526419
>Better
really? they're fighting different battles in the same war but they're on the same side. resist the divide and conquer tactics and take your own advice >>129526316

>>129527041
I'm not saying Peterson isn't amazing, retard.

>>129526419
eh id say debatable; few people have had such a profound influence on my thinking as JBP

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>>129527122
*handhug* ok brother. let's go fight the authoritarian left!

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>>129521569

>>129527743
>heil MOLYNEUX
i am not even sarcastic

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>>129525851
>PJW
>Intellectual

HAHA, sweetie

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>>129528164
oops

>>129525681
>He's to the 'intellectuals' of our time, what Socrates was to the intellectuals of his time.

Molymeme is more like Gorgias in Plato's book. His arguments sound good and persuasive - but he gets overly defensive against anyone who rises to or above his level during a debate. Which is why he and his narrator always take softballs from low-T, low-IQ email-in subscribers.

I seriously hope you faggots do not follow these autists and believe their every word or even adopt their ignorant way of thinking. They're nice for the memes though.

>>129522781
Yeah Molymeme is an amazingly fluent and poetic speaker, he's basically the best possible lawyer. Peterson is more intuitive. He really gets to the soul of issues and answers the questions that most people don't know to even ask. Molymeme left brain, Peterson right brain.

>>129521569
>political opinions
>IQ

>>129521569
Molyneux is more politically aware and broader. Peterson is more highly focused. I honestly think their IQs are roughly equal but they have completely different personalities.

>>129523009

That's kiddie shit. A true intellectual can design a lifelike reality simulator woth emergent and self-regulated behavior.

>>129525039
He said 150.

And I assume Stefan's is around 145-150 too.

>>129522781
Stefan is pretty honest in my experience. There's literally no reason to take the positions he has on genetics and IQ and sacrifice his reputation otherwise. His argumentation style can be annoying though. He is sometimes intentionally obtuse which is off putting.

>>129528740
/pol/ will idolize and follow everybody who sounds smart and speaks up against the left. Most likely the result of them growing without a father.

>>129529583
And half will make this post to be contrarian, every thread

>>129521976
No. He thinks that too.

>>129529783
>speaking truth is being contrarian

>>129529968
This. Also he has some serious issues with confirmation bias.

He has too much of an agenda to be able to look at things as objectively and as rationally and he likes to think he does.

>>129529583
This might actually hold more truth than you know, I mean, even if they had a fatherly figure, he most probably was an ignorant fuck for matters of politics and geostrategy.

>>129529583
You can enjoy listening to someone and storing their ideas in limbo for later use, or later comparison against events in the future.

People's advice is worth listening to to the extent that they can predict the future, not explain the past.

>>129530280
Also, it has to be said, Stef clearly has or had issues from his abusive mother. I don't doubt that single mother households are worse on average or that voluntary relationships are a good thing, but you just start to wonder why libertarianism appealed to this guy in the first place.

He has a very fast mind, has written books, sold a company - I don't doubt his intelligence, but the philosopher thing has always been a joke.

>>129521569
Hahahah, to even suggest that Stefan is anywhere near the intellect of Peterson is laughable. Stefan brings up interesting discourse, but he is not an academic.

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>>129530319
If you're over 20 and need to listen to molymeme or peterson to gain another view for big "events" then I have bad news for you, matey..... Start thinking for yourself for once, be the philosopher. If you want to listen to them, listen, but they are not in any way an exemplar. They don't even know where they live, they pretend to know.

I don't care. I'm just glad we got both. Moly has changed my life though.

>>129521569
Peterson has an IQ "in excess of 150" with exceptionally higher verbal intelligence. He reminds me of Jesus fucking with the Pharisees who try to ensnare him in semantic games but get BTFO.

>>129531034
Yeah I figured his interest in "peaceful parenting" was due to personal experience. I mean who thinks violence when they think of parents? Who feels the need to emphasis peaceful parenting when discussing the issue? Somebody who has suffered first hand.

I'm really not so much interested in what people say as I am why they are saying it. You learn infinitely more about people by going back to the source.

>>129531527
>Moly has changed my life though.
how...I really cannot understand this at all..

molymeme is low substance. Can you link me a vid to enlighten me? I don't follow him very much, but the videos that I do see i'm not too impress

>>129531269
>If you're over 20 and need to listen to molymeme or peterson to gain another view for big "events" then I have bad news for you, matey..... Start thinking for yourself for once, be the philosopher.

This. They're ok to maybe get you pointed in the right direction if you're younger. Go to the source material yourself. When these guys and other e-celebs summarize 'their' understanding of source materials, you're cheating yourself of the experience of reading, understanding, and experiencing source material. It's like someone chewing your food for you. Fine when you don't have teeth, yet.

Stefan is verbally and socially brilliant. Fags like Destiny are literally too scared to even talk to him.

I guess Jordan has a higher IQ, but he can't bring the message as well as Stefan and he's not as good of a debater.

>>129521569
Peterson hands down. Molyneux just pontificates and ad homs his callers.

>>129528849
>is an amazingly fluent and poetic speaker
He is a pompous arsehole that knows how to use Google and PowerPoint.

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>>129525884
>min 150 IQ or go
When it comes to IQ, /pol/ IS one person like pic related.

>>129525386
he may be overrated but he's def a step up compared to the idiots people usually look up to
sorting yourself out and figuring out your goals is a good message in this degenerate culture

>>129532937
>"150 IQ or go"
wew lad
your "collective intelligence identity" is laughable

>>129521569
I prefer Peterson over Molymeme just for the fact that Peterson is willing to go into environments where he's going to challenged by people with opposing viewpoints. You won't see that from Molymeme. Everyone he has on agrees with him on almost everything, almost as if he's afraid of debating someone that's on his level intellectually.

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Molymeme is a sociopath. Peterson is at least a little genuine despite some social inadequacies. Prove me wrong.

>>129536072
How is Molyneux a sociopath?

>>129536072
I would classify the condemnation of sociopath as a bit overboard

Stefan Molyneux is clearly superior because he isnt a centrist faggot

>>129539369
1 issue
THIS DUUD IZ KANG

>>129536072

He's just some dude making money off the internet. You can call him phoney but he doesn't strike me as a sociopath at all.

they both seem like idiots to me but i'd give the nod to jp

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>>129520883
>>129539007

Gentlemen...

BATTLE STATIONS

>>129539979

>>129521569

>2017
>Still watching Molymeme.

wew lawd

>>129523593
>Peterson does not have a coherent philosophy,

KEK

Don't worry anon.,,in a few more years, Kurzweil will have some upgrades for your IQ

>>129524116
>Molyneux probably has higher raw IQ but has autism or some pesonality disorder (he seems socially inept).

High IQ is a personality disorder.

styx

>>129542994

>styx

styx.

>>129523009
>Not being able to design a 5th dimensional reality-transcending time viewer

lmaoing at your life fampai

>>129521976
Dude he's a cult leader. Dude is a fucking creep

>>129542908
Not an official one by any means. Paranoid, schizoid, schizotypal, borderline, dependent, narcissistic, or antisocial, etc--not a single one has high IQ as a distinguishing factor. Antisocial does include 'good intelligence ...,' indicating despite criminality they have good superficial intelligence or imbalanced high verbal over other forms of intelligence. Molyneux does seem narcissistic or antisocial ...

>>129521833
t. A virgin faggot in his basement twirling his fedora.

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>>129521569
>the IQ of these gentlemen
Who cares about their IQs?
What's interesting is the problems they talked about and the ideas they unfolded whilst trying to resolve those problems.

>>129543397
He runs the third largest Libertarian cult after Murray Bookchin and Ayn Rand.

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>>129521569
https://youtu.be/qudotCp3xgs

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>>129521679
FpBp

>>129525039
>>129529290
cant be high iq if you dont identify patterns. peterson is good at this, he has an intuition for symbols and narratives. molymeme? i dont know, hes an actor so he has high emotional intellect but also his cancer treatment probably reduced his iq by 10 points

>>129524853
I could have made this post, except molyneux is slightly smarter than me.

Accurate, I think.

Molyneux, ofc
Sadly now he doesn't talk more about libertarianism
He is also supporting protecionist candidates and it makes no sense at all

>>129545260
it makes sense when you realize nationalist fascism is the way to make a country work

>>129521976
yeah he's awesome

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>>129543951
>stefan and jordan arent fedora tier infotainers

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Anyone else missing the ancap molyneux?

>>129545260

Oh, he just realizes that in order to save the West, and White culture from a communist multi-culti hell-hole future, we're going to need to ramp up helicopter production. End goal to him is still anarcho-capitalism, as far as I know.

>>129521569
Stephan just seems... Cultish to me the whole "defooing" things he did left a REALLY bad taste in my mouth.

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>>129524116
Peterson said on stream that his IQ was measured in excess of 150

>>129545386
Protectionism will never work

>>129521679
Peterson is more intelligent while moly is cult leader

>>129545815
I hope it is true

>>129523009
>code monkey shit
What's from scratch? You build a 3d library it's going to look like anything else that already exists. It's fucking algebra, nigger. Code like a white man.

Molymeme is fairly historically knowledgeable but I would say is no where near the eloquence and intelligence of Peterson. Petersons so fucking smart he makes you feel smart listening to him.

>>129521976
Yes. You are also the only kike lover on /pol/

>>129545905

He said that but then did you see that lecture with the few IQ problems that he completely flubbed? I have no doubt he is very intelligent but I don't think he has an astronomical IQ, he's just exceptionally well read and exceptionally mentally ordered and able to convey that order.

>>129521569
Molyneux is smart as hell, but Peterson is a fucking genius.

>>129545774
I cringe everytime the puppetlord talks about evolution like we came from monkeys. Well, mayve Peterson is "evolved" from a monkey, hahahahahaha- I'm kidding, the whole science behind it is bullshit and he betrays himself as never studying the material when he ignorantly spouts it in metaphor.

>>129523173
100% correct

>>129546308
>he completely flubbed
which one?
and do you think he would lie about his own IQ?

>>129546308
>during a lecture
a proper IQ test is in every way a better measure of IQ than a snippet from a classroom lecture

>>129524255
Zio Joe did DESTROY moly

Molyneaux has stated a number of times he isn't all that smart. That said, he clearly has a high verbal IQ, has worked very hard on psychological issues from his past, and works hard to be intellectually rigorous. This can account for a lot - like someone tuned a Mustang to race against a Ferrari (Peterson).

>>129521569

Well one is a former Harvard and current Toronto university professor and one is a stay-at-home dad.

>>129546849
Moly - 135
Peterson - probably 165

I estimate Peterson to have had upwards of a 130 IQ in his best days but judging by his meandering and pointless lectures I'd say these days he's closer to a 115. He's articulate but completely out of new thoughts.

Doubt me? Watch his videos from 20 years ago and be amazed that he hasn't had ONE original thought since then.

>>129546322
So in the Moly cult do you jerk him off before or after the cult pep talk?

Molyneux - 105 - 115
Peterson - 125 - 135

>>129547070
New thoughts aren't inherently intelligent.

Infact holding onto the correct thoughts under assault would be intelligent.

Joe is a fucking degenerate moron and he RAPED Moly on his podcast about being a cult leader.. baka this posts is full of sheep cucks

>>129547344
He's not a moron. He's unironucally one of the smartest guys they let on TV.

>>129521976
100% yes, you are a fucking retard if thats true

>>129547227
Sortman stated his IQ to be around 155 based on professional tests. He says it in the latest Q and A video. Someone asked him what his IQ was.

>>129547334
Sorry if this comes off as obtuse but you're obviously lacking an understanding of the important distinction between crystallized and fluid intelligence. While JBP once had the mental agility, so to speak, to navigate the works of classic psychologists and philosophers, he has not demonstrated that ability in decades and thus I dismiss him as a current, leading intellectual.

Of course, let us not forget his obsession with 4 or 5 books total, between Nietzsche, Jung, and Solzhenitsyn. His extremely limited grasp of the totality of Western thought is evidence of his narrow mindedness. The man simply isn't well read. His "conservatism" and Bible-pounding rhetoric are all further evidence of this.

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>>129521569
Mr Dapperton

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NO CONTEST.

Sort yourself out.

>>129547953
your final statement belies the bait carefully hidden in your post. nice try 8/10

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Ben Shapiro

>>129547070

He applies his central philosophy to new issues but his central philosophy hasn't really changed in the past twenty years. And that makes sense, a lot of people have their strong intellectual lifting done by their mid 30s then spend the rest of their life expanding this and making it clearer (which he has been doing).

If you look at the big thinkers in philosophy this is the case. For example Hume started writing A treatise of Human Nature when he was like 20 and spent the next 30 years working on the same central ideas before becoming a historian, and this is also true for a huge amount of others.

>>129547842
He also mentioned that he took it in his younger years so its definitely lower now.

>>129521569
I tend to think Peterson is slightly more intelligent. This is possibly because Molyneux can come across as insecure at times.

But Molyneux is a better communicator.

>>129521976
1 dollar

>>129548150
I'll consider your lack of repartee as a cowardly admittance of defeat, then?

>>129536072
You are an idiot. Prove me wrong.

>>129521833
Not an argument.

>>129548465
True

>>129548307
It isn't Peterson's ideas as they manifest themselves per se; however, what' is worrying are his a priori assumptions ABOUT a priori assumptions. His lectured are ensconced in a pseudocultural milieu of ad hoc should-be constructions of his own device. As such he is guilty not only of re-writing history but also he is damned by his analysis of it. JBP's podcasts and lectures are an ironic bit of reversal. He wants us to psychoanalyze him, and I refuse to play along with his game.

>>129531269
If I agree with you, am I a hypocrite already?

>>129521782
What the fuck are you talking about? The only main overlap that Peterson and /pol/ have is a hatred of communism/neo-marxism/post-modernism. But the man had an established career long before the pronoun issue.

>>129543951
Here's your (((you)))

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>>129549612
>mfw ensconced in pseudocultural milleu

>>129521569
Both are well above average. Peterson strikes me as a better thinker, although he has been presenting and perfecting the same ideas for decades, at least some of his apparent brilliance, especially verbal prowess, could be attributed to routine. I wonder, how would he manage a completely new topic, without relating it back to the Maps of Meaning lectures.

>>129549612
What do you mean about his a prior assumptions?

Is it in reference to his reliance on Darwinian logic?

>>129521679
I would say Peterson is more science-oriented and Molyneux is more humanities-oriented .

>>129551025
This. Peterson is eloquent because he has refined his ideas over and over again while Molyneux is always looking for new information.

Both approaches have their pros and cons. Molyneux will never know as much about a single subject as Peterson, but Peterson may very well be wrong on major parts of his life's work (the religious interpretative work primarily, because it's highly theoretical) which is a serious risk in having such a tight focus. But Peterson is great when it comes to psychology and how he articulates his defense of the west. Peterson is more unique, Molyneux is a bit more basic at times but that might not mean he is less intelligent either.

>>129549612
I agree with this to a large degree. But I can kind of forgive him his assumptions, somewhat, because I agree with his goals.

When he interprets ancient religious stories about the wars between gods as representing struggles for prominence among various cults, or he distills biblical imagery to archetypal shadows from our evolutionary past, he is really only doing what everyone who interprets religious doctrine is doing. He is coming up with his own interpretation and then selling those ideas. I like to think he's smart enough to know he could be entirely wrong but who knows.

I personally prefer a sort of ancient aliens explanation. It's just as possible from my perspective, and probably fits the scriptures better but whatever.

>>129521569
They're both pretty up they're own ass. I would say that Peterson is a tad more intelligent though.

>>129521569
Jordan Peterson's not smart, he's just a philosophical autistic bookworm who's on the side of free speech.

Molnew is psychotic who thinks that anything he disagrees with is either wrong or not an argument. He has one good video on taxation of the Roman Empire and that's all he's lived up to his name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkhX7TnsEDA

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>>129546375

Conspiratorial christfag detected

>>129552918
>They're both pretty up they're own ass

Almost everything Peterson says is prefaced with "it seems to be the case that", "from my estimations", "according to my research" etc etc.

Stop being an anti-intellectual.

>>129521569
I dont think I've ever listened to Molynuex long enough to hear him make a point. Flowery tone. Something hypnotic. But lose interest quickly. I'm sure he's a good guy.