GOP supports PR

>>129516119
We'll be sure to send some catholic pro life politicians to congress

As long as you gibsmedat

>>129516842
Are Puerto Ricans white?

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>>129516119
I wouldn't be so sure about the Democratic senators part. It used to be that Democrats opposed statehood for Hawaii because it was so Republican and Republicans opposed statehood for Alaska because it was so Democratic. I have vague memories of reading that Puerto Rico has historically been very Republican despite it's Latin culture. Of course things may have changed.

>>129517152
>spics
>white

Depends on who you talk to

>>129517706
CIA world factbook says over 70% white...but I assume what is meant is "white" as in lumped together with light browns

What will the current 50 states benefit from the entry of Puerto Rico in the union? For the 51st state to exist it must bring added value to the nation or else, the USA is just letting itself get exploited by clever slave descendants.

>>129517356
It's currently very Democrat because they rely of gibs but you're right in the long run it might be more of a swing state or lean Republican state if the Republicans play their cards right

>>129517152
Not white as White Race. But white as "clear" skin.

>implying a vote with barely 25 percent participation will even be entertained by Congress
Dropped

>>129516119
This is a good thing. More spics in the US = faster decline = more probability of race war when we have a chance of winning

>>129516119
nobody gives a shit about the GOP's party platform

Puta Rico is a cess poll of corruption and low lives. They need to clean their shit up before becoming a state. Build a lot of jails coming up.

>>129518070
tourism and sheeit

>>129518070
New flag, two more senators and some states will lose seats in the House if they don't add new ones.

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>>129517152
nope

>>129522760
DROPPED

Do not nationalize more fucking spics wtf

>>129522115
Those are not benefits

>>129518353
>it might be more of a swing state or lean Republican state if the Republicans play their cards right
Assuming the GOP Establishment and cuckservatives are actually competent....

>>129524762
Both parties are run by the zionists. The whe government is. Don't you see, based what you know about their bullshit plans this helps them further drown out Europeans in america.

>>129518353
>it might be more of a swing state or lean Republican state if the Republicans play their cards right

This never happens.

>>129524597
They unfortunately are already citizens, this is just about giving them representatives in exchange for taxes. They wouldn't pay in more than they take I'm sure though.

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>>129516119
MERGE THE DAKOTAS

>>129525522

MERGE THE DAKOTAS

Will you clear out their favelas before or after statehood?

>>129525893
Fucking leaf trying to steal republican senators and bring us down to your level. Merge rhode island into Connecticut if you care.

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>>129516842
fuck that. this country has too many catholic spic voters

>>129519051
there won't be a race war. you'll just get outbred like Afrikaaner and Injuns

>>129526367
>Hispanic Catholic only 67%
This can't be right.

Don't forget several more democratic congressmen.

Only 23% of the PR population voted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rican_status_referendum,_2017#Results

Do the results even count if 77% of population didn't vote?

>>129520466
So you're saying they'll be a blue state?

Why does the GOPe support that? It's just like them signing the amnesty bills. I get both sides being Jew stooges but you'd think they'd not support stuff that gives them less chances of getting elected.

Brownies will always vote for Dems b/c gibs.

>>129522760

That's a nyrican abomination, this is what happens when a latino mixes with a north american.

>>129518070
% of the country that voted for Trump=.267%
% of Puerto Rico that voted for statehood=.223%

I'm just saying.

>>129527538
Those decimals are off, but you get the point

>>129527538
The difference is that the American election had a 60% turnout with 2 very close candidates.

>>129516119

- the other states have to vote them in
- could take 10-20 years for them to join
- US may just give them independence, cut them off.

>>129516119
>the GOP platform

most of that stuff isn't serious
all kinds of shit goes in to the platform as a concession to the loser
I think there's something in the GOP platform about banning pornography lol

>>129516119

PR is mostly catholic. It's a 50/50 chance that their senators will be red or blue.

Most PRs are anti Trump leftists, right?

>>129527538
>implying that means anything
What the fuck is your point?

>>129527670
>The difference is that the American election had a 60% turnout with 2 very close candidates.
The point is representative sample is representative.

Requiring some arbitrary share of the population to vote before a result becomes valid is fucking stupid because there's a fairly steep fall off with gains in accuracy relative gains in sample size.

>>129528402
The raw share of a population that supported something isn't the standard for our most important decisions as a society, so why should it be the standard for something like this was my original point.

But if you want something more based in math and shit, see
>>129528533

>>129516119
I'll only believe PR becomes a state when it actually becomes a serious matter to congress, congress has ignored PR for a long time.

>>129517988
>CIA world factbook says over 70% white...but I assume what is meant is "white" as in lumped together with light browns
yep

>>129517152
>Are Puerto Ricans white?
I'd say 40-50% are

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>>129516119
Literally who cares anymore? The Republicans have the house, the senate and the presidency now and they haven't done a goddamn thing.

>immigration and wall
lol no
>repeal Obummacare
replace with Drumpfcare

I'm voting Democrat from now on, acceleration-ism is the final redpill. Maybe they'll crash the dollar before we're completely overrun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4W4D9giUO8

>>129516119

or two more Marco Rubios, remember he was manufactured in San Juan

>>129518070
How do they benefit us a territory?

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>>129520466
Becoming a state gives them a chance to scrap their territorial government and start over.

It's a beautiful place.

If the GOP is smart they will support this and win the love of a relatively conservative population.

>>129529390
Marco is reliable enough.

>>129516119
Forgive all their debts and CUT 'EM LOOSE.

>>129528738
I think Trump could seize onto it as a good public relations issue.

>>129529096

Nice blackpill shilling

>>129530784
>Forgive all their debts and CUT 'EM LOOSE.
this actually sounds like a good idea but believe me $72bn will be hard to forgive

>>129528738
voter turnout for this vote was under 25%, it was quite a joke
$8m down the drain on advertising for statehood wasted, this will probably be ignored just like 2012's vote, although on that one 30% of the ballots were handed in empty so i guess this one has more legitimacy, even when very few people went out to vote and those who are against becoming the 51st state didn't go out to vote.

>>129530845
i don't think that would help at all, his supporters believe we're a welfare state and that our debt would just hold back the US, and the democrats don't seem to interested in the island either. wouldn't help public relations much besides the 5 million puertorricans living in america.

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>>129531157
How long do you keep planning to make that excuse anon?
>Goldman Sachs cabinet
>Bombing Syria
>DREAMers
>GOP is doing jack shit

Why would they keep waiting now??? They're in. They have all the power, we "fooled" the shitskins. There's ZERO reasoning for them to "hide it" anymore. Hell, they KNOW they will LOSE votes by allowing the DREAMers or God forbid Puerto Rico to become citizens.

I'm not blackpilling, i'm facing the reality of the situation. This won't get fixed in the voting booth.
Stop bandwagoning and think for a second you fucking child.

>>129531700
In the US though, turnout doesn't matter. If people don't vote they don't get represented, and that's their choice. If no minimum turnout is established by law it literally doesn't matter.

I don't think many Americans think about PR at all. The US is on the hook for their debt either way, as long as they're a territory.

5 million Puerto Ricans could matter a lot in swing states like Florida.

>>129532308
I hate to tell you, Puerto Ricans are already citizens.

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>>129529096

>>129516119
Not enough turnout for their plebiscite

>>129528914
Menos 35%

>>129532308
We're already citizens Cletus.

>>129517152
As long as they're not mulatto or mestizo mongrels

>>129532500
>5 million Puerto Ricans could matter a lot in swing states like Florida.
most of them are concentrated in either new york or florida, so yeah you might have a point there

i believe congress can invalidate this vote if they deem the turnout to low, as for here there aren't any voter turnout laws. i'm not big into statehood, i think we should be made a proper freely associated state first and remove the restrictions on american ships being the only ones allowed to commerce with us, so we can work on cleaning up the debt and building relations with other countries, and when we are in good shape to be let go, be made independent. this is a bit of a pipe dream tho i gotta say lol

>>129522115
The house is legally capped at 435. So some states would lose some seats. Probably Commifornia

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>23% turnout
They should not take this seriously.

>>129517356
No, no, no.

They are literally insolvent.

PR will never be red. It is worse than California in terms of gibs and corruption.

>>129517356
>I have vague memories of reading that Puerto Rico has historically been very Republican despite it's Latin culture

The party that seeks statehood is known as "the republicans" but is now a mix of both national parties. IIRC the GOP has been officially for PR statehood since 1946.

BTW you got latin (actually hispanic) culture backwards.

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>Turnout too low

>Voter turnout was just 23 percent, leading opponents to question the validity of a vote that several political parties had urged their supporters to boycott.

>http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CB_PUERTO_RICO_STATEHOOD?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-06-11-17-26-34

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>>129533355
They're citizens**, not citizens.
You obviously know what I meant based on the context here cunts, they'll get congressmen and electoral votes.

>>129532626
Stop deflecting

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They will NEVER be red. Imagine California with NO whites.

PR is corrupt to the core. Fortuno was the only sensible man (read, tried to make the deficit manageable) he failed miserably and they voted in someone who embezzled from the state afterward (but he gave gibs so it's ok).

>>129517152
Puerto Rico is the only island in the Antilles that was not a plantation island. Unlike the rest its value for Spain was for the navy. That is why the city of San Juan is walled and fortified.

Puerto Rico was the last port for Spain's bullion ships. Safe harbor against hurricanes and pirates. In order to protect the strategic port of San Juan the crown decided to have loyal european farmers settle the island. Of course some did have slaves and hence we have mulatos.

Indians went extinct 60 years after the arrival of Columbus in 1493. At that time fortune seekers and soldiers did breed with indians and its from that original stock that many people have either a permanent tan of skin that gets easily tanned.

Cities are very mixed and is also where illegals (mostly dominicans) live. Pure bloods mostly live inland and in the mountains.

>>129517988
>CIA world factbook

CIA world factbook is not factual. Will not give details because that is a topic on its own. Keep in mind its the fucking CIA.

However the 70% number is from the USA census. Also keep in mind we got yearly like 300 days of UV factor 11. Some people actually discover they are white once the move to states in the north. Some people will get a tan just from ambient solar light.

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This was planned a long time ago.

https://apnews.com/30d1888c868f485380f2d692506c6713/american-flag-has-51-stars-pence-visit-european-union

>>129516119
Who cares what those faggots voted as the platform. We TRUMPISM now.

Fuckf of Puerto Rico

>>129518070
Clearly you don't know what you are talking about. This is because Puerto Rico is the only topic in which fake MSM and alternate media go shoulder to shoulder.

We are americans citizens not just american nationals like for example Guam. This is USA soil, not a foreign country, not a protectorate or any foreign entity. THAT IS ENOUGH to ask to be a state ONCE the territory is organized (population 50+) and minimum population total is achieved (5000+). We got now 3.6 million more or less.

Anyhow its possible there is oil in the north coast (regardless of what the CIA un-facts book says). Also we used to be the antu-submarine warfare base for the Navy and that role is needed back especially now that chavistas have ambitions to control commerce in the South-Atlantic. Somewhere in the 1990's the meeting of the governors of the southern states was hosted here and IIRC it was the governor of South Carolina that proposed we become a maritime cargo hub like Taiwan. He actually presented a plan that was quickly shelved by our governor (current governor's dad). There is more stuff but my posts are getting to long.

>>129522760
Those girls are New Yorkers. Check the Miss Universe Queens. You will not believe me so check it on your own.

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>>129517152
>Puerto Ricans
>spics
lol, no. They are cannibalistic island savages.

Cool, maybe we can transfer all the Spanish speaking faggot there.

>>129536911
What are you referring to?

>>129526110
Favelas are specific to Brazil. Every news article about Puerto Rico always features a slum known as "La Perla". Even movies only use it as a backdrop. Since ever the democrats have been pushing this image in the media because the know this will be a republican state and if they manage to deceive us it will only work once. Even Tucker the cuck slayer believe the image presented to him by republican lobbyists hired by democrats.

BTW "La Perla" is actually small. To see the truth about this place just try a google earth fly-by and take your time. See for yourself how much you have been lied to by the media and Hollywood.

>>129526961
Because we already voted for statehood in 2012 and 1998. We are tired of the politicians that do not want to follow the proper process. The Act of Admission is supposed to be presented first to Congress and then there is a vote on whatever proposal comes from WDC. The alleged pro-statehood party uses the damn as campaign material every election. At this we either become a state of just leave the island to live in a state. Hence the low participation. Anyhow the only numerical requirement is that the population be 5000+ and that's it.

A good example of the process is in the series DeadWood. They follow a self-determination process to choose which state will annex their town that is in a territory.

>>129537188
One of the native tribes here where canibals.

>>129527538
An independent poll a week before the primaries (we can only vote for president in a primary) showed Trump as the winner. The response was to bring the former republican governor Luis Fortuno to make a appeal in favor of Rubio and the government reduced substantially the number of polling stations and also shuffled them all over to make voting difficult. After the primaries the system was reverted to the previous setup. I was told by a politician in the states that President Trump is aware of it.

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>>129537188
>Puerto Rico
>Thinking they are "Spanish"
lol, no.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_Caribs
You should know your history.

>>129528738
You must be a shill. Why was Congressman Don Young with others in the island? Care to check the many statehood projects coming from Congress and even the White House's talk force over the decades?

What happens is the pro-statehood party won't follow the proper process!!!

>>129531700
TL;DR
You are a shill.

>>129524731
If it makes California less powerful in elections, I'll take it. Fuck this state.

>>129533573
>some states would lose some seats

It does not work that way. If became state overnight two senators are added but the House stays the same. Our non-voting representative that is already there gets to vote from there on and we get more only after the House amends the limit. Its my understanding that the limit is there to prevent the abuse of the Tennessee Plan.

>>129533907
>They are literally insolvent

Incorrect. Statehood won in 2012 but in that vote we changed governor and the new one was against statehood so he proceeded to wreck the finances of the state and killed the credit on purpose just by quoting Nicolas Maduro regarding the Moody's and Standad and Poors. The he went on a tax hike to the point that we are the most taxed people in the USA in hopes pro-statehood voters leave the island. Then he proceeded to defund goverment pensions.

We the citizens are not broke and neither is the government. The pensions however are a lost cause. Simple the government has no credit for the too important TRANS market.

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>>129516119
I'm a native and everyone thinks Im white

I'm the hispanic sleeper agent for when the mexican deportation rises to 90%

>>129517152
Are you stupid?

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>>129516119
>Thinks Trump and Republicans will actually honor a piece of paper.

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>>129526367
Anon, those are mexicans.
Puerto ricans are very secular due to the US whoring us out to big name companies, destroying our lands and our homes in order to make neat tourist attractions with OUR MONEY.

>>129540207
>Incorrect. Statehood won in 2012 but in that vote we changed governor and the new one was against statehood so he proceeded to wreck the finances of the state and killed the credit on purpose just by quoting Nicolas Maduro regarding the Moody's and Standad and Poors. The he went on a tax hike to the point that we are the most taxed people in the USA in hopes pro-statehood voters leave the island. Then he proceeded to defund goverment pensions.
wtf I hate Alejandro García Padilla now.

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>>129526961
Only 26% of America voted for /pol/'s favorite politician.

Well, you better start selling flags. You could make a quick buck off since people want to update their flags.

>>129538358
No. The Caribes were from the small island to the south and that's why that sea is named after them. The Antilles are not Caribbean islands, the ones to the south are.

>>129538807
Wikipedia.

>>129528914
>>129528790
Hispanics are A-OK. Most of them are actually decent people, its the ones who want California to become mexico who are the problem. These people are already Americans. Some people here are acting like we are adding some 3rd world barbaric country to America, don't get me wrong that Puerto Rico is poor, but it is not like we are adding Hati.

I am glad now that you can have representation in our government friend.

>>129540905
There was a tribe of them in the area called fajardo now and they warred with the taino often.

>>129540335
>Thinks Trump...

Unlike (((you))) Trump knows the island and even got his pet cat from here.

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>>129528113
>Catholics are conservative

Kek, no. Even most White Catholics in America are cucks. The non-Whites might be pro-life but that is it.

>>129541092
>>>Reddit

>>129541213
Taino were Arawak, right?

>>129541298
Dude, you dont really need to travel to get a cat in Puerto rico, you can literally grab one for like .50$

>>129540674
>You could make a quick buck

That is correct. People are looking for them online right now.

>>129541012
Cannibal.

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>>129534040
i hope it works... i dont want to have to pay for there shit skin country and give the dems more EV

>>129541092
"Hispanics" is an useless category, it includes both literal Aztec savages and 90% Spanish Cubanos. Puerto Rico is a shitheap because it is mostly brown. California is already becoming Mexico by virtue of the browning alone. The problem isn't language but race, anything that puts more non-White representation in the US government makes the government shittier and more corrupt. Making PR a state is a total loss for the rest of America and White Americans above all.

>>129516119
>"T-Trump is deporting hundreds of Spics! Go Trump"
>LITERALLY IS GOING TO ADD 3.5 (THREE POINT FIVE) MILLION MORE SPICS AND SHITSKINS TO THE US


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHAHAHAHAHAH

>>129541012
Spic

>>129517152
Why is this even an argument? I'm not sure how brown Puerto Ricans usually are, but why is Spanish heritage treated as if your makes the person non-european in some way? Is the Iberian peninsula just not considered part of Europe or what?

>>129518353
Move all the spics to blue states for gibs and then gentrify it into what Cuba was in the 50s ?

>>129541889
There's already 5mill of us in the States.

>>129541092
>Hispanics are A-OK. Most of them are actually decent people, its the ones who want California to become mexico who are the problem

Actually Mexicans are A-OK, it so happens they are throwing their trash to California inspired by what we did with the mulatos in the 1950's. Newyoricans are the result of the "Moscoso Plan" that urged a population reduction so that its stopped growing faster than the economy. The found in NYC the perfect place to dump the poor and uneducated (mostly mulatos). Then used local taxpayers money to seat them a Congresswoman to make sure they would not come back. No one found the government sponsored migration strange because we had a big natural migration to many states during the depression. Remember we have been american citizens since 1917.

Mexican governments copied the model but had to come up with a gimmick to normalize it because they are not citizens.

>>129541979
>Is the Iberian peninsula just not considered part of Europe or what?

Pol is full of retarded Nordicists who say anyone who isn't blue eyed and blonde haired is a shitskin.

Unless they happen to be Irish, or Slavic, because they're clearly not white either.

tldr Don't expect /pol to have a coherent answer

>>129541213
>There was a tribe of them in the area called fajardo

I stand corrected.

>>129541498
This information coming out makes you unconfortable.

>>129541979
>why is Spanish heritage treated as if your makes the person non-european in some way

Modern education and wikipedia.

>>129541889
They're already US citizens dude, have been since the 40's.

>>129542239
The federal government asks if you are Hispanic on every form where they ask you your race, it's not just /pol/ that makes the distinction. I'm just wondering why it is that Spanish heritage is always distinguishes from European heritage

>>129541758
You know what I meant.
>>129541398
Fuck you I have probably been here longer than you. Just because I am not a genocidal white supremacist should not qualify me for being a reddit cuck.

>>129541979
Because the Spanish and Portuguese mixed with the native populations in the Americas to an absurdly high degree compared to other European colonists. It was even officially sanctioned by the Catholic Church thinking that it would help Christianize the natives. Almost all Iberian descended people in the Americas have some native American ancestry due to this, whereas your average Anglo/Celtic/Nordic American only mixed with other Europeans.

>>129542809
Because of lobbying, that's why.

Mexicans were typically shoehorned with white people, unless they were literally black, but they couldn't cry for gibs and AA if they were white like Italians and Spaniards.

>>129542809
Historic reasons mostly. the area around france/germany, north of italy, has a roughly similar cultural and ethnic heritage that also has much in common with nordic and british ancestry.

The Iberian peninsula, on the other hand, has primarily been closer to northern africa, going all the way back to first Carthage, then the muslim conquests.

Then you factor in Spain's colonial empire in the Americas and the truly massive interbreeding with the native population creating an entire social caste almost overnight that continued to dominate the region well after the actual Spanish had left.

>>129542809
>I'm just wondering why it is that Spanish heritage is always distinguishes from European heritage

Hispanic is a cultural group and in demographics it becomes relevant when the population is mostly from another cultural background. Its the same for any country (or that is how its supposed to be).

What I find curious is there is acknowledgement of the participation of Spain in the USA revolution and in documentaries the existence of the Spanish Empire is absent or minimized.

>>129543381
>acknowledgement
Meant to say NO acknowledgement

>>129542809
See
>>129543123
There are entire castes built around the different degrees of mongrelization in South/Central America. There is no equivalent with descendents of other European colonists/settlers. Race-mixing wasn't accepted by the English or French at all, when it happened the offspring were disowned/disenfranchised.

>>129516119
PUERTO RICANS ARE FUCKING BASED!

>>129516119
It's bullshit, especially because under the equal proportion method they'd get a total of 5 seats in the House, one each from Florida, Minnesota, Washington, Texas, and California. In other words, the left trades two electoral votes and gets seven in return (counting the Senators, of course). Meanwhile, Republicans would lose 3 (well, not really; Texas would gain one or two).

It wouldn't have helped Hillary, but it might help the next one.

>>129543644
Lurk moar.

>>129543544
>Race-mixing wasn't accepted by the English or French at all

Not quite. French had Métis as well, they ran into the same problems because they half-assed their colonization efforts and had practically no women.

>>129543381
Probably because they didn't put boots on the ground in the 13 colonies. I know they had a few campaigns going in the Carribean and in Europe, trying to seize Gibraltr, and they retook Florida, But they didn't have ships and men present in what Americans consider to be the ain theatre

>>129543968
I don't know too much aboot Canada, desu, but there don't seem to be very many of the Metis. Whereas basically all of the Spanish and Portuguese race-mixed with the locals. The informal caste system has also been broken down due to the importation of socialism, creating the double threat of idiotic economics and putting the lower castes in government. So you wind up with situations like in Venezula where the more White part of the population starts fleeing the country. It's a fucking mess.

Territories are costly. Specially when populated by citizens. We de get a lot of federal funds with little or no obligation. The rich provide the goods and services that result from that money and return little to the state and nada to the federal government. That is why (((do not want us to be a state))). What was to come if Clinton had won the presidency was Obamacare WITHOUT the obligations. That is we got all the services and citizens from the states were to get the bill. That was already announce by the previous governor. The Clintons have a lot of crooked friends here.

>>129544197
Spaniards got all the way up to Canada, why you think Montana has that name (Montaña). Not all battles of the American revolution were fought in land or even on this side of the world. France and Spain used their navies in a war of attrition against England. Also soldiers from Florida, Puerto Rico (few) and I think Cuba did participate in war.

>>129517988
They will be counted as White until they're a state, then they will be counted as Hispanic.

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>>129516119

This is some bullshit!

We can't get rid of the 25+ million greasy Mexicans that are here and now we are going to add another few million liberal Ricans?

Are the RINOs insane? We need a new political party cause these 2 parties are basically the same.

>>129544667
That's because France didn't have many settlers period. It was just a lot of empty woods with some trappers fucking Indian women, and Quebec City.

France had weird restrictions in place on settlers, they wouldn't allow Huguenots to settle even though they were literally the only group willing to leave in large numbers. England was totally chill about dissenters fucking off to the New World, but New France was supposed to be this Catholic Utopia and shit.

>>129545575

Funny thing...Those of us that do not look like mulatos are called "Americans" when in the states and those mulatos of NYC get called puertorricans eventho they have never been to the island nor their parents nor their parents patents. This is what the media did to you.

>>129544667

What really changed the Spanish colonies was the industrial revolution. You have to realize for centuries that spanish port town operated, not giving a fuck what the jungle natives did.

When the industrial revolution happened and natives could get jobs in the factories, and earn a living. All the cities got fucking flooded with natives.

This is where the socialism comes from. All these poor natives, with stone age thinking want the wealth of the spanish people the began living near.

>>129546212
Media didn't do that, biology did. The more non-White you are the more foreign you are to White people, it's not difficult to understand.

>>129546608
First, that's not a good picture of her.
Second her dad is a migrant from the Dominican Republic.
Still to describe her as stupid sexy is an understatement.

>>129546446
That's only an acceleration of what was already happening, but yes it was a drastic and speedy change. It's the same dynamic everywhere, the Boers built farms and then cities and then the blacks flocked to the people they used to attack begging for scraps. The Whites were too kind-hearted to drive them off and in a few generations the blacks had convinced themselves that the cities ought to be theirs. Then socialism came and the Jewish merchants used it to weaponize the black resentment. White flight in the U.S. is similar as well, only the blacks were former slaves. All of modernity in the West is a story of Whites fleeing their own civilizations as the hordes we created and fostered move in and tear it down. Yet we keep feeding them, subsidizing their growth while hindering our own. Madness.

>>129547030

That does not apply to Puerto Rico. Check the other thread.

>>129547161
My bad. It was already explained in THIS thread. Scroll up.

>>129546608
Gross desu, look at her subhuman face

>>129526351
compromise for (probably) getting 2 demoshit spic senators from PR becoming a state - STATE OF JEFFERSON should be granted statehood at the same time

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>>129541701
I think it would be so much fun for this to be the design. It would create a lot of buzz and get people to think more about civics.

>>129547274
her skin color is white, and that's what matters

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>>129547274
Sure. BTW its the mom that is Dominican (IIRC).
She is a model and as such she got a tan in a place where the UV factor is 11.

>>129516119
Well that's tough shit because their members sure as hell don't.
Faggot leadership needs to stop pushing through their gay little pet projects.

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Our women prevail.

>>129536618
They're fucking puerto ricans.
You all look like that everywhere.
You all have bad attitudes and you're all basically niggers.

>>129547908
It's not.

>>129548248
You are the reason everyone in the rest of the world thinks the average white American is an ignorant meth smoker. You are a living stereotype.

>>129536412
You're dead weight and a liberal shithole.

>>129548492
>implying I don't know PRs
You faggots are niggers.
I don't give a fuck what the rest of the world thinks. They aren't looking out for me. This is my fucking country and I don't want a state full of niggers joining it.
You're all living stereotypes.

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She is white. This may be a shocker for some but in a tropical island with UV factor 11 300 days a year people tend to get a tan.

Pic related is she with her dad.

>>129548528
Says the shill!

>>129548663
>Implying you are nor a NewYorker.
Liberal shill.

>>129516119
Well I was hoping to wait a few more years until I left the country but if this happens I will be seriously considering my exit plan ASAP

Good riddance USA, you lost your roots and now you will lose your people.

>>129548663
>You're all living stereotypes
Look who is talking.

Take it easy Cletus.

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Better get used to it. Trump does seem happy.

>>129548858
Texan and you faggots get around.
You're the easiest group to tell apart from mexiniggers but that's only because you're all violent hotheads.

>>129516119

"two more Democratic senators!"

Good luck not getting a veto on that.

>>129548927
Good, I recommend Vanuatu. Contact the relocation specialist friend of Alex Jones.

Uneducated latino votes will be the death of conservatism in the United States. Puerto Ricans have driven their own economy into the ground by electing socialists in all but name, and outright defaulted on loan repayments meant to get them back into the black. Between this and the huge culture differences between PR and the mainland, I believe that the best thing for the US to do in regards to Puerto Rico is to simply walk away. As a people, they do not mesh with American values, and their voting habits will put more corrupt socialists and regressive leftists in charge of the federal government. We all know that an independent Puerto Rico would be just another failing banana republic, but at least they couldn't drag us down with them.

>>129549466
>Uneducated latino votes blah...blah...blah

You just confirmed you are a shill. You have not read the previous posts. You are here in a idle pursuit. You can not influence the vote in the island and good luck influencing the votes in Congress. As for veto...I already said you did not read the previous posts. You are a lost misguided shill. Go start a slide thread on race mixing but at least get a good bait pic first.

I was in PR once, I went to a gas station near the airport first thing and it had some kind of weird symbol near the price of gas. I asked if they took American Dollars just like I do everywhere else in the Caribbean. They got real pissed and kicked me out of the station. I don't want them allowed.

>>129549899
Actually I'm half-Puerto Rican whose spent far too much time amongst the wrong half of that. The plain fact is that the Puerto Rican government has abjectly failed, and the only people to blame for that are the Puerto Rican people who put them there. If Puerto Rico could pull itself together, or the people managed to elect a competent government and get back on the right track, I'd be cool with the idea of admitting them. But they won't, and likely can't.

>>129550038
Oh really, you asked Americans if they accepted American dollars in USA soil?

>>129550368
Ah, finally a fake puertorrican shows up as the thread is dying.

The type of government we have was imposed by FDR and meant as a Kynesian experiment. We had no say then and have no say now about it. Only Congress can change that. Also the details behind the debt story were already posted and you clearly did not read a thing.

Am I the only one who sees a strategic military benefit to Puerto Rico becoming a state?

"As of 2010 US census, people who self-identified as white constituted the majority in Puerto Rico, making up 75.8% of the population. People who identified themselves as being of mixed race origin, predominantly of West African and European ancestry, constitute an additional 11.1% of the population"

PR is actually whiter than the mainland, you guys should annex the island

>>129550713
The type of government you have is a direct mirror of a state government, just without voting representation in congress. What the fuck is 'experimental' about a Republican government with three distinct branches and separation of powers? If you can't function that way as a territory, how the hell can you function like that as a state?

>>129550880
Its used to the case and same for Spain. During WWII we had a anti-submarine warfare base in the east. We lost the bases in a political confrontation between an arrogant governor and a Senator. That very same Senator, Jim Inhofe, is said to have already a proposal to re-open the bases. The Chavistas do have ambitions to control commerce in the South-Atlantic.

>>129551532
A base is different than a bona fide state, though. If PR was admitted to the U.S. proper, it would extend U.S. sovereignty and influence in a way that an unincorporated territory cannot. With Florida to the north and PR to the southeast, the U.S. would effectively have more control over the entrance to the entire Gulf of Mexico.

>>129551281
>What the fuck is 'experimental' about a Republican government with three distinct branches

That is a valid question. Simply the Constitution approved by the most progressive Congress in USA history (seriously) is cucked. It gives the impression of been a look alike of a state constitution and been compatible with the federal one but its not. It gives all the power to the political parties. Gives the governor to the power to ignore the legislative branch (supposed to be the actual government in a republic) and there are two versions of it. One in english that was presented for approval and one in spanish that is not exactly the same.

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I love the fact that everytime a thread pops up about this godforsaken place pops up there's one fucking imbecile posting white puertoricans. SOMOS BLANCOS, TE LO JURO, SOMOS MAS BLANCOS QUE ARGENTINA. LOS NUYORICAN SON UNOS NEGROS. Stop seeking approval of whitey you colonized dogs.

>>129551981
If that's the case, that there are two different constitutions with different verbage derived from the fact that they are in different languages, then y'all have a legitimate constitutional crisis on your hands, and should get that sorted. Maybe that's a good place to start, if you're looking for an answer to the statehood question.

Experimental as in we don't get all the rights we should have as American citizens, only "fundamental" rights as recognized in jurisprudence. No legislative representation either in Congress. However, all Federal laws and regulations apply in Puerto Rico if the Congress chooses to.

I think you started all that 1776 thing because of similar concerns, but twisted it regarding to American citizens born in Puerto Rico.

The government itself was inherited from the one created by presidential appointee Tugwel the kynessian. He created a goverment that promotes and protects monopolies and owns the utilities and other infrastructure that should be in private hands. Simply put the government takes a cut from everything and thus those in control do so as well. Add to that the fact that federal funds sent to territories are block funds with no strings attached and you get a perfect environment for corruption. Then add to the mixture the banks (or rather the bank) and everything gets clean except the credit of those that try to stop corruption.

Congress has plenary power but nerver uses it. I need coffee.

>>129551763
And connected to Ascension Island and the Falklands gives control of the Atlantic from North to South.

>>129552274
Take a pill Juan.

>>129518638
Yeah I mean I am mostly Greek and a bit Norwegian but I know a bunch of Puerto Rican's that look much whiter than I am

>>129552360
We can't touch the constitution without approval from Congress. However if we were to become a state we can immediately throw this one in the trash can.

Trump should do it to get them to stop talking about muh russia for a week. Also gives him something historic for his presidency.

Then there is the problem of Inconsistencies within the federal courts. For decades we were supposed to be an un-incorporated territory (no such thing exists). Then they slowly began to apply federal constitution. Then they decided that for all purposes we shall be treated as a state. Then they decided the federal Contitutuin is to be fully applied here. Somehow the fact that we only have federal citizenship (state citizenship does exist) did not seem to be tied to the Constitution.We in the eyes of the federal courts were the only USA citizens not protected by the USA Constitution.

>>129546608
COME GET THIS LIMITED EDITION FLAG BEFORE THEY RUN OUT

>>129554417
Might be the first thing trump does that is historic for a reason that isn't retarded.llll

>>129550038
LMFAO sure bud that happened

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>>129552274
Triggered?

>>129541498
well hes got a point
dose catz and shieet be all ova dat island n shieeeet

>>129539621
in the past they added 2 new representatives temporarily and then it went back to 435

>>129559947
>in the past

Its a case by case thing. They had to stop the abuse of the Tennessee plan or else states could just start dividing to fuck up the House. We already have one non-voting Representative that would change to a full fledged one without changing the House total. They later convene to decide whether to add seats, restructure the composition or leave it as it is now.

The US should give Puerto Rico to the Queen and then to Canada. I have heard Canadians want one caribbean island as a vacation spot and Puerto Rico is the ideal place for that. Besides they are basically Americans, so it's a win-win situation.

>>129561133

I guess you never heard of the Commonwealth of Nations.

>>129561338
As far I know, the Queen can accept, reject or transfer any territory of the Commonwealth to another jurisdiction, so that's not a problem.

>>129561511
We are not part of the Commonwealth of Nations. Here the word Commonwealth has the same meaning as in Pennsylvania.

>>129561790
But you are a territory, of the US want to transfer the local government to the British Crown they can do it, and you believe the brits would negate? If they themselves wanted to invade the island, at some point.

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>>129516119
This is the guy who started the movement. A Christian nigger. No surprises here that niggers and Christians are unpatriotic money grabbers.

>>129520466

Those pieces of shit are all within our government, which is why we have a fuckton of debt.

The government here is beyond retarded. The secretary has a secretary and the sub-secretaries have secretaries. Government employment is fuckton huge and nobody dares to run against the system because they lose votes and support (obviously) from within those same dickheads.

Trump himself needs to grant us statehood, come in here with death squads and fire government employees in person and any that refuse should get killed in public.

>>129561904

Well has the USA transferred any territory populated by Americans to any other Country? AFAIK only a few rocks in the sea have been and still was an error because it reduced the maritime jurisdiction and territorial size of the nation.

>>129562268
Heh, sounds like your typical hispanic government, like here. Too much bureaucracy, very few actions.

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>>129562182
>This is the guy who started the movement. A Christian nigger.

You mean like pic related?

>>129562337
As far I know only some islands acquired by the Guano Islands Act, but that's because more than half of those islands were useless and they were too far away to be administered correctly.

>>129562507

You don't have to admin rock islands if you just want then as military staging platforms. Also you seem to forget a chunk of the sea is part of the island.

>>129562470
He was traumatized by slavery i guess, but then he gone full force to promote immigration of any race.
http://www.blackpast.org/1869-frederick-douglass-describes-composite-nation
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Men differ widely as to the magnitude of this potential Chinese immigration. The fact that by the late treaty with China, we bind ourselves to receive immigrants from that country only as the subjects of the Emperor
>We shall spread the network of our science and civilization over all who seek their shelter whether from Asia, Africa, or the Isles of the sea. We shall mold them all, each after his kind, into Americans

>>129562632
Some of those islands are too small than the territorial waters around it are of very few value, besides some of those islands are literally uninhabitable (as lack of fertile soil) and some are hit by tsunamis and storms half the year.
Besides they already have Hawaii, that's already an strategic point covered.

>>129562932
I don't think you get the meaning of staging platform. Are you aware of what's going on in the East-China Sea right now?

>>129562632
They don't want us a bunch of us don't want to be here either . This island is shit and so is the people. This island is a floating ghetto not as bad as any other shitty latin american country but its because if we get way more corrupt the feds come in and start slapping their cocks on the "proud" monkey rrican faces.

If we were by ourselves it would be exactly the same shithole as Haiti.

>>129562815
Nice cherry picking.

By that date the Chinese migration was on its was well on its way because of the coast to coast railroad project. He was merely talking about the assimilation. He actually spoke of the virtue of the west in that address.

>>129563164
Shill spotted. Go back to pleddit.

>>129563060
>East-China Sea
I'm not too used of the geopolitics of that zone, but at some point, the strategic value of those territories are overshadowed by the resources you are investing in them. The mere fact of defend them to other countries is a waste of source in itself, that's why the US droped a lot of guano islands when those were reclaimed by other countries.

>>129563431

Once you have a rock island you can build it into whatever the hell you want to. Check the growing islands of the East-China Sea.

>>129563418
Never been to reddit young in I am a realist. The only way to save this shit hole is to get a bunch of Norwegians to displace the negroes and druggies and start impregnating bitches here in 2 generations maybe it'll be white enough to civilize this place is a lost cause.

BTW in PR universities in all humanities they bad mouth whites and say how dumb fucks you are while you give schools down here Pell grants and fed student loans. You should do something about it and take it away to show them who feeds them.

>>129563375
Assimilation is another word for interracial and white genocide. If USA wasn't a free country then it wouldn't be white genocide. In China they control their races, where they live and how they breed, on other hand in USA it's just white genocide when they talk about assimilation, same as in Europe, since there's no definition of races anywhere. Being Chinese isn't even a race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Douglass
>Douglass was a firm believer in the equality of all peoples, whether black, female, Native American, or recent immigrant.

What is this equality? It doesn't applies to money, but it applies to them not giving a shit about your race/culture and throwing niggers into your town, that's American equality.

hello yes, is this where I get the gibs?

>>129516119
Reminder that the GOP has never been on the side of the American people, you're a fucking idiot if you've forgotten so soon how they fought tooth and nail to have one limp dick faggot or the other run for president.

>>129563531
Well, of course, you can build whatever you want on them, but as I said some of those island are hit by giant waves/storms for a lot of months if not totally underwater.
If they were useful, as you say, there should have been people living there, but there are a lot of islands that no one wants to possess, even when they are technically part of some country.

>>129563650
That was in 1869 in 1869 english. Somehow I have the idea that history proved you wrong regarding what happened then and what we got from it as a nation. The problem that torments you so much even tho you are not even American started halfway thru the 20th century courtesy of the democratic party.

>>129564068

For the third time, check an actual contemporary example. Check what is going on in the East-China Sea.

>>129564068
Not here we actually get less flooding than the mainland. It's really ironic that they make fun of us because of flooding when it barely happens anymore the last time there was a big flood thanks to incompetence was in '89 when Hugo hit, after that FEMA retrofitted most houses in large urban centers and creeks and rivers and for the most part it's isolated cases not whole towns wiped out like it happens in flat lands in the US not only New Orleans,but other rural states .

>>129564198
All they know is the fake narrative sold by democrats thru MSM and Hollywood.

Even Molymeme is posting utter BS in tweeter. He needs to start reading and researching instead of taking as fact whatever his fake puertorrican cult follower neighbor tells him.

>>129564114
You know that every law for killing white people was written by republicans? Lets see:
Beginning of racial mixing in USA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower
>Republican
>Eisenhower told District of Columbia officials to make Washington a model for the rest of the country in integrating black and white public school children.

Beginning of African citizenship in USA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1870
>extending the naturalization process to "aliens of African nativity and to persons of African descent.
>The Naturalization bill was introduced by Republican Representative Noah Davis

So why is that? Because those are Israeli boys. So you see, it's not so much the problem you get workers from other countries in your country, who are apparently illegal and not mentioned in population statistics, when it becomes a problem is when you allow them to breed with your population and give them permanent stay. When you legalize them then they appear in statistics and then you might think it started in 20th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States
>twelve million enslaved people brought from Africa to the Americas

There were more than 10 million slaves at beginning of USA, that's more than white people.

>>129516119
it won't happen, it will never happen

>>129516119

23 percent voter turnout

not exactly a mandate for statehood

>>129564182
>>129564198
Well, I admit I am ignorant of the East-China Sea situation, but that's far the point I was trying to do. My point was, the US can sell Puerto Rico, if they feel like it, to some country that wants it, like Canada, and that would be completely legal.
Probably being part of other anglo country (like Canada) would be a lot times better than being part of the US, a country that clearly don't like you.

>>129564707
No. Democrats count on that to keep the scheme alive. Check the China-Sea. It will affect you in the near future.

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>>129516119
Why are (((neocons))) so bought/retarded?

>>129564440
>killing white people
I have no idea where are going at or why bring this into this topic. Maybe I am just sleepy.

>that's more than white people
I am sure the numbers thing has been discussed in /pol/ ad nauseam and you got them wrong.

>>129565287
It's simple, when you free the slaves, deport them to Africa. Why go all this length to naturalize them, then slowly giving them rights? It's very obvious what you creating, another slow slavery process of lower paid workers who stay in your country and fuck your race/culture up and at end of the day when they truly become equal they will remove you from existence.

>>129565445
Are you aware the USA created Liberia?

The purpose of the African American National Congress was to move back to Africa on their own accord. Then something happened.

This:
>It's very obvious what you creating, another slow slavery process of lower paid workers

At this point it seems you need a break more than I do and I am literally falling asleep.

>>129564707
True they can, problem is they can't just anull the citizenship of everyone living here some people have parents that were born in the mainland and move. So it'd be damned if you do and damned if you don't the land itself could be sold but the people would still have the citizenship because of heritage.

>>129565788
>Then something happened
Yeah, Lincoln got killed.

>>129565897
Its was their own project. Lincoln had nothing to do with it. I suspect once someone counted heads they looked like a viable constituency by magnitude and a political ambitions took over.

>>129565788
Always something happens, doesn't it? Politicians change their promises. What we are left with is hard reality of 50% or 80% non-white cities, all this after trying hard for 200 years to protect the white man, NO, quite the contrary. More like 200 years of lies and delusion in Jesus the fucking Kike on cross. If Stalin could deport millions in 15 years, then there's no reason Americans couldn't have done it the same in 100 years.

>>129566230
They did but did it with the Natives. Then just kinda quit.

>>129516119
Why does the gop want another blue state? Because that's what PR will be, they've been nothing but a welfare case for decades. Literally no benefits to them joining.

>>129566402
I thought they killed 100 million natives, that's not actually deporting them.

>>129566402
What natives? All the indians from all the islands were extinct 60 years after the arrival of Colombus.

>>129566423
Because more land = more power. It's why Germany keeps integrating all these shitholes that contribute nothing into the EU.

>>129566423
>Why do newfags start replying from the first post when the thread is close to 300 already? Read the rest so you don't ask what has already been answered and post something that has already been debunked.

>>129562268
We have enough debt and are already bankrupt it just hasn't come to light. Your shit tier island is filled with shit tier niggers.

Your people are a liability not an asset. When civil war breaks out here you'll just be in the firing line mixed in with the other niggers.

>>129568573
>We have enough debt and are already bankrupt it just hasn't come to light. Your shit tier island is filled with shit tier niggers.
>Your people are a liability not an asset. When civil war breaks out here you'll just be in the firing line mixed in with the other niggers.
pffftt says Mr. 53% white, stop larping faggot. The will never be another Civil war in the US, period.

>>129541758
There are also white hispanics you hick.

>>129534054
No they are full citizens. They just don't live within a state.

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>>129569575
Tranquilo pinche de naco. Gringos won't give statehood to Puerto Rico. Just like Washington DC.

>>129541701
There is no law specifying how the Stars must be arranged. It's just a lack of creativity that leaves us with rows.

>>129551011
It's true. PRans hate Mexicans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhSKk-cvblc

>>129571521
Washington DC is about 50 square miles. It should not be a state.

They should give the northern part back to Maryland and reduce DC to just the major capital buildings and national mall.

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it's a bit too outside of "cruise ships go here" for us to care

We state now. Moot give American flag now.

>>129573187
>Moot
Who?

>>129526367
Sorry PR is so left leaning it rivals cali

>>129548767
we're still not letting you in, brown faggot

>>129580158
Fine next referendum independence it is fuck this island.

>>129581642
ay lmao, we'll make Venezuela look like childs play

we'll probably figure out a way to run out of oxygen

>>129518070
What is manifest destiny?
It's an absolute pox that no state has been added for over 50 years. The founders would be rolling.

>>129533573
435 is a ridiculous limit. USA should go back to using the constitution for apportionment. Should also put in an amendment that would split states as large as Commiefornia and Texas.

>>129548485
Yer wimmins can be hot, but we just can't afford more Dem voters right now.

>>129583388
Manifest destiny to extend coast to coast.

done and done.

>>129584227
You're desperately missing Mexico, my geopolitical friend.

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will this now be a rare flag

>>129586616
No.

>>129583388
this. Taiwan is next.

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>>129516119
They will become Conservative once they start paying federal taxes.

>>129583388
The flag was never meant to remain unchanged for so long.

>>129571488
They also don't pay federal taxes.

>>129586708
No more special gay Olympic team, you fags will have to learn to compete with the other 350 million of us

>>129526393
Mate, let's be honest, if there's gonna be a racewar anywhere it's gonna be america.

>>129516119
2 more DNC senators, millions more DNC voters regardless of DNC platform. Millions more non english speakers. Millions more gimmedats.

What the fuck does PR make? Nothing. We would be agreeing to a welfare island joining our ranks with no benefit at all to the american taxpayer. OFC the american taxpayer wont have a say in it since they never do.

>>129516119
The GOP was never /our/ friend.

Has Trump already said anything about the référendum?