DESPACITO

>>129515864
>implying I didn't want them to become a new state

>>129516106
I agree styx, pol is slowly turning to reason, but a bunch of inbred stormfags still don't understood what's gonna happen and what choices republicans have

Isn't this a good thing?

>>129515864
I'm ok with this.

It's a land grab, more for the US

>>129515864
outside groups have the right to vote themselves into the union.... plz

>>129516880
ANOTHER BLUE STATE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
BASED SPICS
WE CAN CONVINCE THEM TO VOTE MORE CONSERVATIVE YEA

>>129515864
>Population: 3.474 million
great, another blue state
how many mandates is this... 6?

Didn't they do the same thing in 2012?

If I was a republican, I wouldn't do this unless I got a red state out of it as well. We need an Alaska for this Hawaii.

>>129517078
Don't worry, Jefferson is on its way.

>CA loses delegates
>Republicans gain them

>>129517078
Yes. It happens every time, but nothing happens.

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>>129515864
Pissing into the wind at this point, but pic related.

>>129517246
>Jefferson
FUCK NO. You already know the outcome to that
>Jefferson is formed
>California continues it's fall
>People move to the nearest states, turning them blue
>Arizona and Jefferson are the two nearest states that aren't already blue

>>129515864
Why would they vote away their sovereignty? The US has no article 50. They are now a non country like every other US state.

Fuck

NO

>>129517814
Fuck

YES

>>129515864
Why would we want them? They're $80 billion upside down. They're basically forcing us to buy them for a steep price. Fuck that. They should just be allowed independence.

>>129515864
Congress will never do shit unless they pay there debts

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>>129517048
>Puerto Rico would be another blue sta-

>>129515864
>23% turnout

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If I'm not mistaken the electoral college will stay at 538 votes and PR 6 will be siphoned from other states like California.
I might be wrong so take this with a grain of salt.
Also what about the language difference between the mainland US and PR? Will that be an issue at all?

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>>129515864
>23% turnout
>non-binding vote

>>129518181
I doubt it would be a huge issue, I mean we have tons of Spanish speakers already and I assume that statehood would encourage the learning of English at least a little

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>>129518159
>Q1. who was Rubio's biggest donor?
>Q2. whose hedge fund holds a shit-ton of PR debt?

>A1. Paul Singer of Elliot Asset Management
>A2. Paul Singer of Elliot Asset Management

>>129518380
>23%
What the fuck? Was the ballot sent out only for this one issue? Nobody votes in perceived minor elections.

>>129515864
>Non-binding Referendum

kek

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*blocks your path*

You think I'm american, right anon?

>>129518593
Spaniards are too busy having siestas

>>129517048
All analysis shows they will vote red.
Keep cheering. Don't let me stop you.
4D chess

Learn English. Then we'll talk.

>>129518181
>what about the language difference between the mainland US and PR
you've never been to california have you
this country is doomed

>>129518737
>(((analysis)))
so reasuring
keep telling yourself the BASED spics will vote red
It worked so well when regan gave millions amnesty

>>129518159
Daily reminder that if you didn't support Rubio in the republican primaries your IQ is most definitely in double-digits

>>129517048
Nah they'll be like Florida. Them getting admitted by a Republican president and house will turn them even redder.

>>129517494
>>People move to the nearest states, turning them blue
if enough blue voters disperse then there's more room for red voters to breathe and come in to. but keep in mind it's incredibly hard to just relocate on a whim like that.. think a little more realistically with these situations. all those blue voters going to other states and managing to live there long enough with the kind of debts and shit work experience they have? yeah alright man whatever you say

>>129518181
>Also what about the language difference between the mainland US and PR? Will that be an issue at all?
i wouldn't accept any option other than total lingual assimilation to english but it isn't a big deal -- most already understand english well enough.

>>129518626
>>Non-binding Referendum
the republican party, and trump, said it would be honored. since republicans control everything i don't see why they wouldn't -- if they renege on it, they'll piss off everyone who did come out to vote for it in PR. they'll become a state eventually. they will never be independent. so when they do become a state, it might as well be under republican control. if you want a blue state, all you have to do is renege on statehood as republicans.

>>129517012
they do, congress said the ydo and this power belongs 100% with congress
>>129517078
this is styx's proposal

And think about it, if you're a republican and does not do it, democrats will do when they get power back

>>129518181
IIRC California, Texas, Florida and two blue states would lose representatives to PR

>>129516311
Aren't they a Christian (eventual) state :D ?

>>129520032
Why Texas? Are they trying to nerf our red state power?

>>129520342
There are rules on it. I guess some states are too small to lose representatives (only having 1), and with redistricting the larger ones would lose more

An anon posted the calculations yesterday

>>129520732
How would Statehood for Puerto Rico affect the apportionment of House seats?

According to a report by the Congressional Research Service (CRS), if Puerto Rico were to become a state, based on a population of approximately 4 million, they would be entitled to six seats in the House of Representatives. As a state, they would, of course, receive two Senators.

The current number of 435 seats in the House of Representatives was set by the Apportionment Act of 1911. For nearly a century, the permanent number of seats hasn’t changed.

If Puerto Rico were to become a state, Congress would either have to:

Reapportion the 435 seats by giving six to Puerto Rico and subtracting seats from other states;
Temporarily increase the size of the House until the next reapportionment following the next census; or
Permanently increase the size of the House.
Based on current information, a CRS report projects that the states that could lose an existing seat or not receive an expected additional seat after the 2010 Census in order to provide six of 435 seats to Puerto Rico include: Arizona, Missouri, New York, South Carolina, Texas and Washington.
https://naturalresources.house.gov/newsroom/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=183105

>>129521319
but this is from 2010

>>129515864
I am completely in favor of this. Now the trash that collect welfare here can go back and collect on the island.

>>129520342
>>129520732
>>129521319
Updated numbers
Like any state, Puerto Rico would be entitled to two senators. Based on the 2010 census count, Puerto Rico, which has a similar population size as Connecticut, would be reapportioned five representatives. In order to comply with the current apportionment rules of the House, Texas, California, Florida, Washington and Minnesota, states with larger populations, would likely each have to give a seat to Puerto Rico. More importantly, data show most Puerto Ricans vote Democratic. It does not take a political scientist to know that the Republican-controlled Congress would not be inclined to give the Democrats seven seats.

http://theconversation.com/puerto-rico-votes-on-statehood-fifth-times-the-charm-75975

>>129515864
good, i hope they take California's seats in the house of reps

Is this why CNN is pushing that "comedian" nigger off to Puerto Rico for the next episode? So concerned nigger can tell us how badly ebil whitey is opressing the dindu island spics?

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>>129516311

>inbred

hilarious coming from a huemonkey

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>>129515864
Some things to remember when talking about Puerto Rico becoming a state:
>Congress is under no obligation to admit states, even in those areas whose population expresses a desire for statehood.
>The territory, if it has not already done so, is required to adopt a form of government and constitution that are in compliance with the U.S. Constitution.
>The U.S. Congress - both House and Senate - pass, by a simple majority vote, a joint resolution accepting the territory as a state.
>The President of the United States signs the joint resolution and the territory is acknowledged as a U.S. state.
>The process attaining statehood can literally take decades; Puerto Rico has been trying for statehood for over 60 years.
>Both Republicans and Democrats have reasons to deny statehood because they have done it in the past regarless of which party had legislative and executive power.

>>129516880
It's already a US territory you dumb shit

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>>129515864
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SAY IT WITH ME 53% 'MURICA BTFO

Check also the french elections. Macron won bigly
>>129514374
>>129522645
>Congress is under no obligation to admit states, even in those areas whose population expresses a desire for statehood.
Congress already said it would tho, and both major parties and the president agree with it.
>The territory, if it has not already done so, is required to adopt a form of government and constitution that are in compliance with the U.S. Constitution.
Already done
>The U.S. Congress - both House and Senate - pass, by a simple majority vote, a joint resolution accepting the territory as a state.
Republicans control everything, will vote in favor as they said they would.
>The process attaining statehood can literally take decades; Puerto Rico has been trying for statehood for over 60 years.
They couldn't set up a proper vote till now because faggots keep boycotting it and doing it illegally. This time tho the US government said they did everything fine, with no rigging of the questions or descriptions
>Both Republicans and Democrats have reasons to deny statehood because they have done it in the past regarless of which party had legislative and executive power.
Democrats will 100% do so when they can, and republicans know if they cockblock PR they'll just become another blue state, they'd be retarded to just throw them in the dem's hands. They'll 100% try to make them a state first to be more competitive, since this will happen anyway. If they're smart they might try to do what styx said and get a new red state too

>>129522977
ricans are already included in the stats. 5 million in the mainland and 3 million in the island, all american citizens

Those fucking spics will be white before they no it hahhahhah dems BTFO

I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED BY HOW MANY SUPPORT THIS
>i am leaving this place for infinitychan. this isn't a home anymore.
>how can you support more spics it literally doesn't matter if they vote 100% republican.
I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED BY HOW MANY SUPPORT THIS
>i am leaving this place for infinitychan. this isn't a home anymore.
>how can you support more spics it literally doesn't matter if they vote 100% republican.
I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED BY HOW MANY SUPPORT THIS
>i am leaving this place for infinitychan. this isn't a home anymore.
>how can you support more spics it literally doesn't matter if they vote 100% republican.
I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED BY HOW MANY SUPPORT THIS
>i am leaving this place for infinitychan. this isn't a home anymore.
>how can you support more spics it literally doesn't matter if they vote 100% republican.
I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED BY HOW MANY SUPPORT THIS
>i am leaving this place for infinitychan. this isn't a home anymore.
>how can you support more spics it literally doesn't matter if they vote 100% republican.
I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED BY HOW MANY SUPPORT THIS
>i am leaving this place for infinitychan. this isn't a home anymore.
>how can you support more spics it literally doesn't matter if they vote 100% republican.
I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED BY HOW MANY SUPPORT THIS
>i am leaving this place for infinitychan. this isn't a home anymore.
>how can you support more spics it literally doesn't matter if they vote 100% republican.
I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED BY HOW MANY SUPPORT THIS
>i am leaving this place for infinitychan. this isn't a home anymore.
>how can you support more spics it literally doesn't matter if they vote 100% republican.
I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED BY HOW MANY SUPPORT THIS
>i am leaving this place for infinitychan. this isn't a home anymore.
>how can you support more spics it literally doesn't matter if they vote 100% republican.

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Quick, post American culture:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGKrc3A6HHM

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>>129523261
10/10 great taste, Prob one of the best American songs ever made, god I love being the 51st state.

>>129523198

>rule over a population of Latinos
>expect to treat them as inferiors forever without giving them equal rights

This is the redpill on imperialism. Either you let them go their own way or they eventually become your equals in terms of rights

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well shit lads here's our new flag now that we have 51 stats

>>129523198

You realize they're already US citizens that can move to the US anytime they want right?

>>129515864
Wasn't the turnout very low? Meaning that Congress wouldn't consider it a valid argument for statehood

>>129523261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxcd3YbICdc

>>129515864

Why do you think anyone has a problem with this?

Also, google "Brazilian Fart Porn".. Ha ha it's great

>>129523443
you realize that's different from letting their retarded political opinions actually have any impact over your life right?

>>129523261
i swear to fuck they've been playing shit with that beat and only that beat for 100 years now

>>129523445
congress didn't complain just about turnout last time, but that the ballot question was rigged

If turnout counted, american mid-terms would all be invalid since they usually get around 35, 40% turnout

This is as relevant as hillary winning muh popular vote. It was literally losers who knew they would lose throwing a tantrum

>>129518737
We'll see how naturally conservative PR is if Democrats try to block it.

more spics, great.

Don't bother replying telling me how you are different either, I will not be here to read it and neither do I care, you're all roaches to me.

>>129523261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RHn_RxKnCc

>>129517587
They're not a sovereign country. They've been a US territory for ages and US citizens. If they get statehood however the US gains another blue state with 7 democratic electors, 2 democratic senators, and something like 5 Representatives.

>>129515864

Make no mistake, they will vote blue. They can't even keep their own house in order. Why are we even talking about this? Hell no. BIG mistake

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>>129523198
You stormfaggots will NEVER learn.

Whites aren't a land, they are a people. You don't measure the white race in meters of land you measure them by how many fucking white males there are (and only the males).

Get it through your head you dumb virgin you need to have sex with a white female and have 5 babies.

How clueless are you retards?

>>129515864
are we supposed to be triggered by this ?

>>129523867
>How clueless are you retards?
stormfags are literally the dumbest of the dumb, a "white" movement run entirely by jews but they accept it

if there are 5 million people living in peurto rico and only 500,000 of them selected statehood, shouldnt we wait for at least a majority of the islands populatio to select statehood? isnt that how democracy works?

>>129524096
If you don't vote you don't count.

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>>129515864

Are all the people saying it will be bad because it will be a blue state just undercover lefties trying to dissuade us from even greater victory?

Plus even if they were a blue state, they'd only have like 7 electoral votes.

>>129524323
This.

>22% of regustered voters

>There are people who don't want a new state because of politics
Objectively fucking wrong. We should take all land whenever the opportunity presents itself. Think of Texas, Alaska, and Hawaii. Everything we touch turns to gold. Imperialism works.

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JUST

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>>129515864

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>>129515864

Well. If this passes through then our flag is going to have 51 stars.

>>129523261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMp55KH_3wo

>>129515864
>Can vote yourself into the United States

Liberal logic

>>129524372
>2 more Blue senators
>what's the worst that can happen

>>129522977
Technically you'd be counted as a Hispanic, so ur a gay.

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>>129518627
>negress
>american
>be burger
>look around myself
yeah she's american

>>129524759
>this flag will become nonexistent soon

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Yes! Yes! Yes!

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>>129515864
Ignore the PRs just give them soda and put Simpson's re runs on TV to calm them down.
>>129516713
no
>>129516880
It'll be another dem state ,Fuck that

>>129515864
fuck that. so we get debt, more welfare, and more democrat votes, and they get full citizenship rights. fucking cuckservatives are retarded.

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No more spiks please

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>>129519156
Death to those who insult Marco Rubio.

>>129525296

Welcome to the USA.

>>129523427
>not the regular flag, but with 48 stars in the top left corner (representing continental states) and 3 stars at the right end of the flag (representing Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico)

Most Puerto Ricans boycotted the vote. Only 20% of the voting base voted.

>>129515864
Why are all those people saying they would vote blue?
I see them more like cubans in Florida, voting red.

>>129518411

Average Ameritards have no idea that the (((hedge funds ))) run their lives and write their government's domestic & foreign policy.

>>129525324
>Ignore the PRs just give them soda and put Simpson's re runs on TV to calm them down.


how adorable its me as a 7 year old

except in australia simpsons played at 6pm every night on the fuckin dot and i ALWAYS had dinner at 6pm on the dot would watch me simpsons with it goo d times

I mean on the one hand it's bad for conservatives if PR becomes a state.

On the other hand I still want it for some reason. Probably just because it'd be something interesting to happen.

all you people post marco rubio shit dont know anything about PR. basically all of the population is 100% brainwashed by univision and other mexican media into hating trump and republicans for the sheer fact of hating them.

either way there is no way in hell this shit plebiscite will grant us statehood as much as i personaly would want it

>>129525478
No. Puerto Ricans are sea niggers.

>>129525382
They already have full citizen rights. They just dont have voting rights

>>129518737
Wut, Puerto ricans vote blue in Florida
t. central floridian

What a fucking disgrace.
Fuck the United States of America.

This rancid, backwater shit skin infested dump of a so called "country" has no future.

Piss on PR.

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>>129525578
por favor don't get my hopes up

>>129525478
Puero Ricans in Florida vote 27% Republican.

Only on the condition that Jefferson gets to split from California. A balanced admission of a red state and a blue state, plus California is slightly weakened in the Electoral College

>>129525478
they are all brainwashed by mexican media into hating republicans

>Puerto Rico becomes a state
>state creates a Hispanic party
>Democrat vote split nationwide
>US politics overtly breaks open along racial/cultural lines
WE BOSNIA NOW

>>129515864
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statehood_movement_in_Puerto_Rico#2012_statehood_vote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico#Heavy_debt_load

>This is somehow Trump's fault too
Fuck off, chimp. Mind your own business. How did you even get an internet connection from those apes swinging on the power lines? What about your computer? How'd you get that back from the looters? Your country is on the verge of total collapse and you choose to talk shit about someone else. I hope you realize how close you are to "poo in the loo" status.

And in case you really are fully retarded, I'll make this simple. No one cares. State or not, we'll sort it out. Fix your own shit before your entire country ends up looking worse than that 7-1.

So, when do actual Americans get to vote and decide if they want this shitskin infested island to join?

Oh that's right, we won't be given a choice.
Fuck the United States.

>tfw work in biotech
>tfw company thinking about moving the plant to Puerto Rico for those sweet tax breaks
>Puerto Rico admitted
>no more tax breaks
>plant stays put
>Puerto Rico contributes to the welfare funds they receive
>population size makes them irrelevant in current electoral college scenarios

100% fine with this. No more free rides

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>>129526386
>I hope you realize how close you are to "poo in the loo" status.
There is no need to be that fucking mad.

>>129526506
>Fuck the United States
No, fuck the system that 60% of us ignore and allow Liberals to dominate for so long. Fucking vote, you lazy sack of inbred shit. This wouldn't have happened if Obama didn't win.

>>129526661
I've got your step-dad on speed dial. Don't fuck with me.

>>129525908
Get yourself a referendum mate. Would people outside Jefferson get to vote? Would you need the permission of the california legislature? In Brazil congress calls a plebiscite among the "interested people" and if people vote yes then congress still needs to approve it. Las time we had this vote they let the entire state vote, so even though people in the regions about to be separated voted 90% yes, they lost cause the people in the big city in the state voted no cause they didnt want to lose natural resources.

And what do you guys think of territories getting representatives? In Brazil territories get 4 representatives irrespective of population and no senators, and they dont get a governor either, while the federal district gets senators and representatives, which is completely retarded.

Puerto Rico would only make a difference with senators. Just give them representatives

>>129526514
And all the spics will go back when statehood MPRGA, and Florida will be solid red

>>129525412
Someone make this flag, sounds nice

>>129515864
Prepare to get Spiced.

>>129527319
gimme a sec, I'll whip out a prototype

Despacito
Vamos a hacerlo en una playa en Puerto Rico
hasta que las olas griten Ay Bendito
Para que mi sello se quede contigo
(Daddy Yankee)
Pasito a pasito, suave suavecito

Satehood didn't win. The 14% of the population went out to vote and congress demands more than that (50% or more) to be part of the union.

>>129527606
Maybe make the Alaska star larger than the two accompanying stars of Hawaii and PR? Or not, just brainstorming

>Brazilian trolling about something that isn't going to happen.

Puerto Rican here. America will never make us a state. Puerto Rico and America care only about the status quo. That means free democrat bux, without the responsibility of actually being a state. There is no reason to change the status quo and short of Puerto Rico threatening to leave completely, it will never happen and PR will never threaten to leave because of Univision brainwashing.

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>>129515864
mazel tov, amerikikes!!!!
>>129321730

>>129527938
>PR will never threaten to leave because of Univision brainwashing
I don't understand this. Does univision tell PRs they can't make it as a country?

>>129527830
>demands more than that (50% or more)
fake news

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>>129527915

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>>129527938
I'd be cool if you guys were a state. :(

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>>129515864
Puerto Ricans can LARP as being Americans all they want to, there is no way Trump will lose votes on this shit.

Not happening.

>>129527540
this

>>129528312
Yes, all the time. The 2 main "news" corps in PR are Univision and CNN. They have completely brainwashed everyone into believing we need the US. There was a short time when our controlled media was all about becoming the 51st state, until the special interests groups told them to shut the fuck up because it would ruin the corporate tax breaks our semi-state system provides. Thats why there was virtually no turn out anyway because they buried it.

>11.5 unemployment rate
>46.2% below the poverty line

Somebody's looking for some free welfare checks

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>>129515864
>less than 25 percent turnout
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's absolutely fucking nothing, fuck off OP

>23% voter participation

Has the same legal effect as a twitter poll

>>129519164
like california stayed red forever when reagan gave amnesty to millions of illegals?

>>129524910
52*
Jefferson soon.

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>>129528588
i wanna fill that slut with cum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ

>>129529179
>implying californian whites aren't cucks who voted 50% x around 42% for hillary

>>129529073
They already get welfare checks but don't pay federal taxes.

With statehood, their free ride would be over and they'd be contributing to their welfare

This is like Congress voting on salary raises for Congress. of course they're for it.

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>>129529350
Can't pay taxes if you don't have any income

>>129517494
>continue it's [sic] fall

And what exactly is falling?

>>129529350
>don't pay federal taxes.
Just the income tax

>>129529464
This

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>>129529350
Contribute with what ? They're broke

>>129529743
Some dudes have jobs. We'd pay about $2 billion in income taxes if i recall the estimates I read correctly. Although yeah the gibs would outweigh the taxes paid.

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More American music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhzLY4lzIWs

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Give me (you)s

>>129530798
top cuck

>>129523198
>>how can you support more spics it literally doesn't matter if they vote 100% republican.
they're already in the census you militant moron

>>129530798
Why the shapes? You all retarded or something?

>implying this would ever go through because of what is going on in Washington DC.

Yeah fuck PR. They current status stays and Congress would throw it in the garbage again.

>>129525324
Who is she and why have I been coming across hundreds of pictures of her in football dress on various boards over the years? She's a qt

>>129516311
im not even a storm fag but styx is a moron if he thinks that they will vote republican ever. He can say good bye to any libertarian in government

>>129530997
I got no idea.

>another demoshit state
>more fucking spics to drag us down below 57%

Why can't Alaska secede from this shithole union?

Changes literally nothing considering they could already come here and could already vote in the elections.

fucking lol at this shit, 3.5 million people in the island and only 500,000 voted, keep dreaming that we will become a state, we dont have anything to contribute to the US

>>129515864
>23% turnout
I don't get the idea of boycotting a vote. Why didn't the people opposed to the referendum just vote to remain a territory or some shit?

"I don't like the referendum, so I refuse to voice my opinion on it!"
>spic logic.

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Go into Google Street View, it is nothing but poverty, wrought iron fences, and satellite dishes.

You can't find a single home flying an American flag either.

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>>129515864
Trump better not do this shit

>>129531573
The boicot was retarded tbqh. They were mad that they referred to it as a territory instead of "estado libre asociado". And the PPD has been pushing for some retarded option that doesnt even exist in the constitution where we get free gibs, aren't subject to federal law or taxation etc.

>>129531573
They thought they would lose, don't vote and attack it because of low turnout

>>129531702
Do this in So Cal. Keep track of Mexican flags vs American vs Californian

I don't think they should be a state, but at the same time I kinda want something weird to happen like that.

>>129516880
Burgers are so funny fucking stupid

Can we be a state too?

>>129518737
You mean like how spics were supposed to vote Republican after Reagan gave amnesty and citizenship to millions of illegals?

>>129531573

now how can we convince Americas liberals to follow suit?

>>129531573
they knew they would lose, so they took their ball and went home like bad losers

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We're not changing our flag for something as worthless as Puerto Rico.

>>129515864
rip republican party
no white man will ever win an election again in your shitty country

>>129531702
No one flies any flags here. Iron fences are common here even in upper class houses. I don't know why and I agree it's unclassy.

>>129531776
>And the PPD has been pushing for some retarded option that doesnt even exist in the constitution where we get free gibs, aren't subject to federal law or taxation etc.
You mean you become freed slaves?

>>129532009
you had your chance in the past, but you chilled for muh sovereignty

Won't pass through congress.

>>129519164

I'm Puerto Rican, PR is a socialist hellhole no different than Venezuela. And worst of all it's a gateway to Latin America for drugs and violence. The island is so poor due to socialist policies that it would drag down the rest of nation. PR should be an independent country and figure itself out. I guarantee you it would become a commie shit hole.

>>129515864

Ricans can already have visa-free access to the US. This doesnt matter

Despacito means slowly, just like how long it will take for PR to become a US State. They have been trying for decades and they will for several more.

>>129532240
>I don't know why

Because crime you retard

For those wondering how many Electoral College votes PR would receive, it remains unclear. The US Congress would most like not increase the House number from its current 435. This means that some states, most likely blue, will see a reduction in the EC count to redistribute that number to PR. A new ratio of reps/population would be defined along with redistricting. They would game 2 Senate seats - guaranteed. That is a real concern because of the high possibility they would be Dems. But, honestly, I don't see RP becoming a state any time soon.
>inb4 Dems and Pubs both promised they would! Even Trump!
Both parties promise a lot of things - and break them over the decades - and have kicked this can down the road for over 60 years, and that's with both parties having majorities in Congress and the presidency in the past where they could have admitted RP years and decades ago.

>>129531573
the boycott from what I understand was more of why have another vote if the last one that was around 5 years ago didn't accomplish anything, it was a waste of money to most people

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>>129531702
Dropped into a random spot using Streetview

SOMEBODY STOP ME

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>>129515864
i had a great great grandparent that was puerto rican, that makes me mayflower-tier american now

>>129518181
>Also what about the language difference between the mainland US and PR? Will that be an issue at all?
about 42% of us already speak both english and spanish, the number's been growing steadily with the rise of bilingual schools, and becoming a state would increase it even more as it would start to become a necessity.

>>129518593
yes the ballot was only sent for this, but a lot of the island is boycotting the vote by not going to the polls, which is why the victory for statehood was so big

>>129531264
A secret for the whites here just put a good looking puerto rican in the republican party that wont stutter while he talks and you have us in the bag.

>>129532603
It's no black as in race. We're racially aware but it's all jokes and games and everyone's racist to each other. So yeah, that shop is not saying NIGGER CITY it's just black city like dark.

>>129532563
It was more about having congress actually pay attention and not just ignore it wich idk if it will happen they should have talked with congress first imo before doing this.

>>129519423
>Implying Congress will honor a referendum where not even a quarter of registered voters participated
don't hold your breath cock gobbler

>>129532872
Congress was clear when they passed PROMESA that we have to remain a territory until we balance our budget which wont happen for another decade.

>>129532539
>could have admitted RP years and decades ago.
they only became majority pro-statehood in the last 20 years tho

>>129532975
>pr gets into deep shit circa 20 years ago
>suddenly pro statehood
really activated my almonds

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>>129530798

>>129515864
Weird, once they don't have money NOW they want to become a state.

>>129532975
Doesn't matter. Congress gives its citizens the middle finger all the time; PR is no exception. They are under no Constitutional obligation to offer them statehood.

>>129532948
Well then this was a huge waste of paper.

>>129533215
We got some (you)s and got to distract outselves from the shit that's going on, not a total waste

>>129532948
That'll be the new reason for Congress then to kick can down the road for another 10+ years. They always find a reason whether you think it's a good one or not. Besides, since PR pay no Federal Income tax, it's a tax haven for a lot of big business and politicians. They have no reason to get rid of that honeypot.

>>129533327
I really hate this island.

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>>129517920
PAY TAXES

>>129533495
this desu

spic from southwest detroit

anyone got that webm of the pr team at the olympics saluting the pr flag, but then daddy yankee-gasolina starts playing?

>>129533485
Yet we want to get rid of that honeypot for ourselves for some reason

>>129524096
There's 3.4m in PR, 5m in the US

If you didn't vote you have ni Voice, that's how democracy works. Also kinda ironic that now you cares what the majority of people want... Do i have to remind you how Trump got into the Whitehouse.

>>129533594
k

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They burning US flags on the news just now

>>129533982
>Representation > No federal taxes (only state and local)
Yeah, to each their own, I suppose.

>>129517048
The New Progressive Party controls Puerto Rico right now and they're pretty concerned with autism (https://www.pnppr-pr.com/category/temas/autismo/)

We might be able to spin this in our favor

>>129532676
could it be a good looking puerto rican that doesn't stutter when she talks?

As a Puerto Rican, there are many reasons that PR should not be a state. The biggest to me is cultural assimilation. With the rest of the US speaking English, it will force English on Puerto Rico. Losing your language means a major part of your culture is dead. It's only a matter of time until everyone forgets it, like Hawaii.

Second, fuck Puerto Rico. They have an unamerican socialist view of what government should do for people. Not only are the Gibbs outrageous, but the government is corrupt as hell. We're stuck in a weird situation where everyone benefits from Puerto Rico being in this legal limbo, so I don't expect it to change any time soon unless there is serious economic collapse in the US. The only reason that socialist utopia keeps going though is because of American Gibbs. Stop the Gibbs and let Puerto Rico rediscover capitalism.

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>>129532761

>>129534419
Maybe.

>>129515864
It was only 23% turnout. The opposition boycotted the vote for some retarded reason. I think a communist uprising may happen if they don't become a state.

>>129517587
>New Progressi
They've been an unincorporated territory of the US for at least a century, they never really were independent (just highly autonomous)

>>129530798
>Popubestia
Not even surprised.

>>129534584
ignore the first part, that was an accidental ctrl+v

>>129534585
If I was popucuck I wouldn't have voted

>>129525324
That's a mulatta. With plenty of white genes but a half breed nonetheless

>>129518737

I don't give a fuck what their politics are, I don't want them. That island is a sinking ship and the rats are looking for a way off. Hispanics overwhelmingly vote for a welfare state because the vast majority of them are nothing more than worthless mouths to feed. For every based spic there are ten diabetic gargoyles ready to pop out ten children just as worthless as themselves.

>>129526322
Good reason to do it desu

All non white residents of US territories should be genocided. Then admit them as states.

>>129515864
Oh yea, a non definitive referendum with only 20% of participation in a constantly ignored island surely will change everything.

>>129525478
No aqui son mayoria monos negros y menos negro y el resto son blancos que corren por su vida a menos que sean mujer y le dan el culo a cualquiera. .

What's it like over there, PRfags? Worth a visit?

>>129515864
Most hispanic trump supporters I know are Puerto Rican. And while most people on the island would probably vote blue, in the long run, I think they can be converted.

>>129534095
We don't give the slightest shit about the majority, we only care about what will benefit us the most lmao

>>129530798
Este es de los gibsmedat.

>>129515864

I'm totally down as long as commiefornia gets split into 3 states

>>129535085
Yes. Visit our tourism page, it's one of the only things we get sort of right, Bring good shoes and visit the parks, Old San Juan and beaches. Bring money and don't eat at McDonald's.

>>129534297
And that would be our commie infestation.

>>129535085
just for the beaches

>>129532761
>Puerto Rican IQ
Faggot look closely agaib at the picture. I'll give you a hint, look at the side of the picture more specifically at store windows ...

>>129535085
Couple of good beaches and hotels. Depends what you're into.

>>129535226
Actually statehood is the gibsmedat option

>>129515864
los estados gibsmedatos por favor

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>>129530997

>>129535337
*Left side

Fucking phone

>>129535085
Worth a visit yes if you go with a tourist tour group and don't venture out by yourself like a retard and get yourself killed like I've seen some back packing Ameriturds do in Loíza our blackest most dangerous municipality. Unless you pay for an all inclusive trp that might be several thousand dollars you migth have to bring plenty of cash because everywhere nice to a spec of any resort in Fl might be expensive as hell. Do not ever stay in places that are open to anyone just waltz in because you want to be in nature that is moronic and at least one tourist got stabbed to death because of it.

Assume most dark people want to rob or stab you if they look familiar ie white more than likely they won't do shit to you. Most whitesin PR are genuily friendly and are eager to help a familiar face, never EVER trust mulattos or niggers down here ever.

>>129522977
>t. Uruguay
Stop making fun of other countries, the only claim to fame you have is El Chombo and his music sucks shit

Actually I'm not even sure if you have El Chombo but you and your surrounding countries all suck ass

>>129535338
>Actually statehood is the gibsmedat option
What does statehood gets us that we currently don't

>>129535085
Eat at taco bell when you go, they have French fries there. And the fries are super good. No idea why they don't have them in the states. Get the papistas supremas which are basically a nacho supreme but with fries.

>>129530798
Can't wait to see all the Haitians flood PR once it becomes a State.

>>129535706
More Medicaid and shit that only benefits the unemployed

>>129535706
Federal funding and we have to eat your debt papaya nigger

>>129516880
It is already a territory, all we did was give them political power in the union in exchange for more tax revenue (which won't really pay for itself since they spent themselves into oblivion)
>>129518159
>>129518737
They've been voting for more and more gov't control over the economy for decades, the only reason the might vote Republican is token reasons like school prayer and gay marriage.
>>129518181
It will be siphoned from California, Texas, and New York. There will also be another two votes added due to Senators.

>>129515864

You clearly don't understand how the laws of the country you think you just became a state of work.

You're not a state PR, and you'll never be one.

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>>129535745
>this

>>129535706
We bail out your asses, you are on the brink of insolvency.

>>129535907
The debt is bad management and restrictive policies from the mainland .So we're just returning what you gave us.

>>129528421
Interesting. I was thinking 48 stars in a square like the old style US flag but smaller within the blue field, with 3 stars off to the bottom right corner of said blue field. We'd have to brainstorm on ideas

>>129535907
Actually the federal government doesn't assume state debts. And as a state we'd have to pay the denbt. We're only allowed to stop paying because we're a territory.

>>129535999

We have this at Denny's on the mainland.

Pretty sure its ingredients are provided by the same food company, because it is definitely 100% taco bell, going by the taste alone

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>>129535330
NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOO!!!!

JUST FUCKING NUKE US ALREADY FUCKING DO IT!

>>129536578
I'd be okay with this, make sure the epicenter is San Juan.

>>129536578
best idea ever, should've been on the ballot

>>129535867
>>129535907
Looking into it, correct.
>http://www.pr51st.com/territory-gets-less-than-any-state-in-competitive-programs/


>>129536093
PROMESA prevents this

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>>129515864
spoiler: USA will let starve and torture you with US-Aid and economical isolation up to pandemies and famines until people only surviving chance will join american empire. until then they will wait and watch you suffer.

Without USA you already would be fucking tax heaven and tourist paradize with towns raised in the atlantic sea.

A U.S. board overseeing the finances of the bankrupt territory of Puerto Rico announced that it is hiring Ukraine's former finance minister to steer the Caribbean island out of crisis.

Natalia Jaresko, the American-born Ukrainian investment banker who served as Ukraine's Finance Minister between late 2014 and mid-2016, and oversaw a catastrophic decline in the country's economy, has been tasked with steering the Caribbean island of Puerto Rico out of its economic and debt crisis.

Jaresko has been appointed to the post of executive director of the federal control board overseeing the Puerto Rico's finances, the Associated Press has reported.

Board chairman Jose Carrion said that Jaresko's experience in Ukraine made her exactly the kind of person needed to rescue the US territory from its "near-catastrophic" situation. In Ukraine, he noted, Jaresko "worked with stakeholders to bring needed reforms that restored confidence, economic vitality and reinvestment in the country and its citizens."

https://sputniknews.com/politics/201703251051965651-jaresko-puerto-rico-post/

http://caribbeanbusiness.com/oversight-board-appoints-natalie-jaresko-as-executive-director/

>>129515864
>Drumpf will stop it
Faggot, it's not his decision. Guess you don't know shit about our laws.

>>129536891
Better source:
http://www.gao.gov/assets/670/661334.pdf

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>According to figures from the IMF, Ukraine's economy dropped by 9.9% in 2015, the single full year of Jaresko's term in office. In dollar terms, GDP declined from $133.5 billion in 2014 to $90.62 billion in 2015 (a 32% drop). Ukraine's State Statistical Service measured the actual 2015 drop to have been 14.6%. For the first quarter of 2016, the last of Jaresko's term, the service calculated GDP growth of 0.1%.

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>>129515864
Voter turnout was 27%. They lean towards democrats, and we have a republican controlled government as of now.

Can you guess what that means? No statehood.

>>129536891
>intense austerity is leveled onto Puerto Rico
>Public spending shrinks to nothing to stop the debt crisis, retirees and students miss out on the sweet sweet gibs
>Students organize a commie uprising against it or some shit
>Things spiral out of control
Eh, it'd be easier for us just to keep you from facing that much debt. As much as I'd like to see Puerto Rico reap what its leftist economic policy has been sowing, it would probably be best if this hemisphere was more stable.

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>>129537292
For Gov. Ricardo Rosselló, statehood’s victory, with 97% of the votes (502,375), in the June 11 status referendum is what’s important, not the fact that 23% of registered voters (516,968) participated, the lowest voter turnout number in the last political-status votes.

With 99.22% of polling stations counted, the free association / independence option held 1.5% (7,773) of the votes and the current territorial status, 1.32% (6,820), according to the State Election Commission.

http://caribbeanbusiness.com/puerto-rico-governor-justifies-referendums-low-voter-turnout/

>>129515864
Can we just swap out California to keep it at an even 50? Think of how much work changing all our flags will be. I think it will be for the best.

Fun Fact: Puerto Rico would be the easternmost US State after Maine

>>129515864
TIME TO LEARN ENGLISH

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>>129515864
>>129518172
>>129518380

>23% turnout

Will never happen. Nor do we want it. They are bankrupt and worse than California re: gibs + corruption (50% of people work in government).

Think of California with no whites.

>>129536976
Uh.. he would have the chance to veto the laws making them a state. It is his decision, partly.

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>>129537501
No, it isn't important. 27% is no where near enough to say that the people there want statehood. It will be rejected, just as it was last time it was majority for because of low turnout.

I don't know why the fuck you care, but it isn't happening. Guarantee it.

>>129523079
the problem with that is all because they try to preempt the democrats on it doesnt mean it will be a red state. Spics WILL vote blue, ALWAYS. The only ones who ever vote red do so because they came from communist regimes.

>>129538238
Too bad the good goy neocons would probably push the bill over 2/3 majority because of le conservative brown people meme.

>>129538432
they don't need 2/3s, this isn't an amendment
>>129538429
and if they let democrats do it, it'll even bluer. It's the best odds

>>129538547
If Trump vetoed the bill it would get sent back to congress and would need 2/3 in that case.

>>129515864
area 51 is the 51st state desu.

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>>129538547
>More blue than completely blue

You're advocating paying protection money to a bunch of losers that ruined their Island paradise.

*They will NEVER be red*. They are worse than CA.

>>129538929
>*They will NEVER be red*. They are worse than CA.

This is the only truth.

Hoping some of the turn red is stupid. It'd be a mistake as big as Reagan's amnesty which is now haunting us bigly.

>>129538620
he won't veto it, he hasn't given any indication he'd do so and he isn't retarded, at most he'd make a deal about it

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>>129531702

What is she thinking?

>>129539308
I never implied that he would. See:

>>129538238
>>129538432

>>129517587
Currently they're also not a country, they're closer to a colony that an observer state

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>>129539273
>>129538547

Also think of it this way. Brazil is taking the Jeb! approach to this issue. The Trump solution is "What have they ever done for us? Fuck em. Build a wall"

PR has received an ungodly amount of subsidies from us (you literally pay NO taxes on their bonds). We've discharged the White Man's Burden ten times over with this island.

>>129538929
and drumpf not letting them become a state and getting them and all their 5 million spic buddies in florida and the rest of the US super worked out about it, rising their turnout to close to 90% and making democrats their heros once they finally make them a state helps how?

If anything it might fuck up the situation in Florida even more

>>129530798
stay out nigger

>>129538547
Do you think, even if the Repubs let them have it, that the media will let any of those spics think it was conservatives responsible, and not the Dems anyways?

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>>129539555
>Currently they're also not a country

>>129521716
You're forgetting that those seats aren't just manifesting out of thin air, they're being taken from other states - in this case Texas, Cali, Florida, Wash, and Minn.

Based on how the districts would have to be redrawn CA, FL, WA, and MN would probably each lose a democratic seat, while Texas would probably (not necessarily, of course) lose a Republican seat.

So, assuming all of PR's new legislators are Democrats, that's two senate seats, and a net gain of only one House seat.

More importantly, however, you succeed in taking away three electoral votes from deep blue states and one away from FL. This fits well with if the Republicans are going to follow Trump's electoral strategy of going after White working class voters in the Rust Belt.

>>129539602
>build a wall around puerto rico
>implying trump will rule forever and they won't be accepted as soon as a demorat gets to power again
>implying you can deport american citizens

There is literally no point in doing so, except getting them even bluer, and making them turn out to vote in larger %s, and remember: ricans will surpass cubans in Florida by 2020

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>>129539308
You are advocating pic related's strategy.

>>129539713
I think even the texas district might be a D loss if they can gerrymander it right

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>>129539778
They will always be blue. You're not understanding this. 50% of their population works for government. You're cucking yourself voluntarily.

>Unironically thought I was advocating building a wall around an island
You're being needlessly obtuse to save your bad plan.

>>129539656
do you want them to be radicalized like british youth and vote with record turnout numbers, turning florida forever red to "show drumpf how we feel bout this"?

Remember there are more ricans in the mainland US than in their island, and the more time they're not a state and the longer they're a sthithole, the more people will leave their island and go to the mainland, especially Florida

>>129536578
>>129536721
>>129536826
no pls nuke the mainland first why would anyone waste perfectly good nukes to euthanize a bunch of spics when white people are suffering so badly?

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>>129525578
This. PR is California 2.0. They're all blue pilled and will resist replacing Spanish with English. They're too prideful to be a state, they should independent like the Dominican Republic.

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>>129539778
You DO realize your position is the EXACT one put forth by Rubio and Jeb! ?
>Pander to Hispanics
>They will like us and become red

It doesn't work, because you look weak and they won't vote for you.

>>129532676
Welcome to America Anon

>>129539938
>implying you can stop it

>Trump makes them a state, no one cares, +2 expected D senators and at worst a net 0 or net +1 D in the house. No one cares. Island gets less shitty, maybe some ricans doing shitty jobs in Florida go back
>Trump doesn't make them a state, rednecks celebrate by mocking them. Ricans get pissed the fuck out and vote with record turnouts. Florida forever blue. More and more ricans leave their crumbling island and go to the mainland US since they're already citizens anyway. Might even turn another state blue

In both situations you might lose something, but one is way worse than the other

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>>129540074
Brazil. Look at what you're saying. You want to pander to them because you're afraid.

You cannot give away your advantage. They will not respect you if you pander. Trump's numbers with Hispanics proves this.

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>>129515864

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>>129540292
>Trump doesn't make them a state, rednecks celebrate by mocking them. Ricans get pissed the fuck out and vote with record turnouts. Florida forever blue. More and more ricans leave their crumbling island and go to the mainland US since they're already citizens anyway. Might even turn another state blue

You've learned nothing from Trump's election. Jeb! and Rubio pandering doesn't win respect.

They WILL turn out in numbers if they perceive us as weak.

>Unironically thinking rednecks are the liberal stereotype

>>129540508
Actually we're now the biggest drug hub

Honestly it's stupid that partisan politics gets in the way of the expansion of the US empire. All nations should be US states.

>>129539901
Precisely. If the Republicans play this right, it could be a net gain of 0 reps and 2 senators for the Democrats. That still gives the Republicans 55% of the House, 50% of the Senate, and gives them a 3-4 point handicap in the electoral college. All while adding close to a million people to the pool of American income tax payers and giving us a site for new military bases within striking distance of South America.

I call that a win.

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>>129540292
>>129540611
Brazil, observe how much PR anon is jumping on me for being a "racist redneck."

Oh wait... he's not.

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Wating for the statehood

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>>129540780
They are a socialist shithole. They will be a net drag on the economy.

You will gain absolutely nothing by pandering this, but cede 2 senate seats which are a HUGE deal.

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>>129540298
Show me one realistic situation where Trump tweeting
>lmao fuck nigger rico, I'll deport them too xDD
ends up better, in the long run.

You can't. Unless Trump dissolves congress and becomes a dictator, you can only choose on which terms they enter, and how this affect their net migration to/from the island and turnout rates in the mainland, and letting democrats make them a state will only make things worse. Right now they mostly don't bother voting and the reds can keep them at bay in Florida. In this scenario, they're still blues but vote in large numbers and Florida becomes the new California. Listen to the voice of reason and at most make yourself a red state while at it, to keep the balance out of PR's joining
>>129540138
>go independent like the Dominican Republic
>like the Dominican Republic
they aren't this retarded. If this ever happens (it won't, at most the independence option gets 1, , 3% for the last 100 years) they'll just fuck off to the US before they may lose it's citizenship
>>129540780
this, but you can already use them as a base tho, just like Guam, but at least they'd pay taxes instead of just getting gibs
>>129540786
>pol is representative of mainstream society

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>>129530798
>current status

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>>129540508
jeb is a mess

>>129540967
We're already giving them $7 billion in welfare every year, at least if they become a state we can get some of that back in the form of income tax.