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how do capitalists defend this?

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how do capitalists defend this?
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they can't because capitalism is a flawed system designed to enrich the international jew
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>>129496609
Don't fuckin buy one then
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Don't buy it?
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>>129496743
fpbp
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>>129496767
>>129496827
I don't. Nothing's happening
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>>129496609
because the chinese aren't human
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>>129496743
/thread
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>>129496609
>it costs less to make than it does to sell
>they should be running at a lost
>why even be a business at all
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>>129496609
Nobody is forcing those chinks to work for Apple or Foxconn or whoever.
And if someone is then it's obviously not capitalism. Sounds a lot more like communism.
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>>129496930
Well yeah, most people are buying them.
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>>129496767
this but people are too attached to Steve Job's rotting teat to stop buying the next iphone no matter how much jewery is involved
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>>129496609
the freedom to sell at whatever price you deem right rather than the intrisic value is the cornerstone of capitalism.
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>>129496609
>3 times more
I expected at least 10
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>>129496743

This, as long as there is capitalism there will be immigration because refugees are profitable to the corporations (though not to the common man/working class.) As long as there is capitalism there will be feminism because women working is profitable to the corporations (though not to women/families.)

Even Trump just let congress raise the cap on refugees. He didn't bother pursuing more funding for the wall when he easily could. His plan is to increase legal immigration significantly.
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>>129497107
Then pseudo commie hipster fucks really should stop pretending they care about the plight of others
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>>129497107
then apparently Apple is doing something right.
>>129497187
They're about the most expensive phones to make maybe after those tablet sized Samsungs.
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>>129496609
Production costs aren't the only costs a company has. What kind of populist bullshit is this?
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>>129496609

> What are the costs of design, marketing and so on...

The "socialists" just prove how stupid they are and how they do not grasp basic economics
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>>129496609
im sorry did I force Chinks to work?
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>>129496609
money
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>>129496609
What the fuck, those chinks make more than me
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>>129496609
>how do capitalists defend this?
Capitalist Jew here.

Don't buy one, faggot.

It's really that simple. If enough people don't buy it, then it isn't profitable and either the process changes, the price changes, or the business wasn't tenable and ceases to exist.

That they are successful means that people are willing to pay the current price, and their practices aren't enough to stop people from buying it.

In other words... Shut the fuck up. You're incoherent.
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>>129496930
There you go, saved from owning an Apple product
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>3x

More like 10x
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>>129496930

Yeah. That is what happens when you don't buy something. Nothing.
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>>129496988
Not defending the faggot op but selling at over 75% profit is ridiculous. But good on Apple sucking the money out of the welfare trash faggots that want to look important it will never stop making kek.
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Actually genuinely surprised it cost $200+ to make, would have guessed $40.
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>>129496609
>Material cost: 219.80
>Assembly cost: 5.00
>Design and development cost : ???
>therefore it costs 225.00 to build.
iPhone 7's design wasen't written on some stone tablet bronze age god, someone had to design, develop and test it. That costs money.
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>>129496743
This. It's pointless to die on the hill defending capitalism. Third Positionism all the way.
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>>129497443
>selling at over 75% profit is ridiculous.
So many things you consume are sold at higher profit rates. Coca Cola costs like $0.10 for a gallon.
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>>129497443
>selling at over 75% profit is ridiculous
You're a god damned moron.
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>>129497187
This desu, good on apple
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>>129496609
>No one forces you to buy it
>No one forces the chinks to work there
>1.85 USD gives you more in China than 7.75 USD in the USA
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>>129496609
They sell to idiots so they can get away with it.
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>>129496609
Which is why it is better to just buy directly from China, your money is going there anyways so you could as well cut the middle man.
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>>129497498
Apple also designs their own CPU, contrary to all the chinkphone companies that just assemble the cheapest and shittiest parts they can find.
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>>129496743
This
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>>129496997
/thread
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>>129496997
>nobody is forcing them to get a roof over their heads and food in their stomach
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>>129496609
>Apple
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>>129496609
3x retail cost over manufacturing cost is practically wafter-thin, especially on a product which requires an immense amount of effort to design.

If you want to be pissed off about something, look at the margins on designer clothing.
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>>129496743
end yourself gypsy
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>>129496609
they choose to work under those conditions of their own free will. They are free to quit and go somewhere else. Nobody is entitled to a specific job.
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>>129497614
It's still just an ARM processor just like every snapdragon or whatever.
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>>129496609
We don't need to justify our profits... because you're not forced to contribute to our profits.

Justify welfare ?
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Ask the chinese droids if they would rather be unemployed
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>>129497614
A Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core CPU is made of 2 cents of sand and trace elements while it sells for 700$. That means AMD is making a 35,000% profit.
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>>129497443

Nearly every single grocery items sells at 300% profit or higher. Grocery is the highest profit margin item in any retail store.
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>>129496609

WOW YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT PRICE IS NOT JUST AFFECTED BY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY I NEED TO MAKE IT AND IS BASED UPON THE LAWS OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND?

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK DRUMPFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>129497443
Guess what, if people stopped buying it for such a high price then they would make it cheaper.
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>>129496609
>$1.85/hour
that's actually almost poland tier money, i bet that's worth a lot more in china than in poland?
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>>129496609
Stop buying from Apple.
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>>129496743
Henry Ford is my spirit guide
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>>129496609

I love my iPhone
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>>129497805
You have the government you deserve. I hope you enjoy (((capitalism))) goy and live long enough to see it's consequences.
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>>129496609
1) I couldn't ever make an iPhone myself. So if they charge me $1k that's fine because I couldn't do it for the price and it would take me centuries.

If the profit margin is your problem: You're free not to buy Apple products. There's many other alternatives on the market so even poorfags like you can afford a smartphone that has more computing power than a top workstation had 10 years ago.

But yeah "capitalism is evil and if we didn't exploit chinks we could be rocking awesome Kombinat Robotron computers"...

2) Who the fuck cares about chink worker drones? Not even chinks care about them.
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>>129497306
>apple
>"""design"""
toppest kek, shill
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>>129498329
I wonder how many designer they had to pay to come up with the "Let's remove the headphone jack" idea.
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>>129497934
you are an unbelievable idiot, grocery is one of the lowest margin businesses around. Typically in the area of 1%
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>>129496609
hahaa, okay?

it is not obvious to all for which their true intentions are
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>>129496930
Good, not either shut the fuck up about it or go protest and do some activism. One person doing the right thing doesn't matter when 10000 do the wrong thing.
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>non ironically buying apple
topkek

Also those apple stores in all those prime libshit areas costs lots of money to operate.
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>>129496609
Why just mention apple? if Samsung, HTC, Google aren't making phone around this pricepoint they fucking retarded and bad at business.
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>>129498525
>unironically buying apple
>as if ironically buying apple any better

kek
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>>129498536
They are. Android prices have gone up the past few years
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>Materials are only cost a company as

Lefty communists just need to die
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>>129496609
That's literally how capitalism is supposed to work. If there's a willing worker and a willing customer then everything is working as intended no matter the agreed upon prices.
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>>129496930
You didn't waste money on it. Something did happen whether you want to admit it or not. Stupid fuck.
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>>129497778
If they have better ways to acquire/earn money for that stuff, they're free to take them

If they don't, then is it not helping them to offer them these jobs? Would they not be worse off without them?
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The people making 1.85/hr for 12 hour shifts would either be doing that or not working at all and starve to death.

Not that it matters anyways. Who cares about what poor people want, desire, or think in 2017?
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>>129496609
Sucks to be them. Everybody's got problems. If you can find a better system of economics go ahead an try to implement it. I'll wait right here.
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>>129496609
You're not paying for the phone, you're paying for the hardware.

Look at the iphone 32GB and 64GB prices. The memory is dirt cheap and easy to upgrade, it's an artificially deflated price.

Why do they do this? Status.

They use richer consumers to buy their rose gold 64GB Special variant so the phones can be sold in mass at a cheaper cost to offset development costs.
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>>129498772
I'm a huge advocate of capitalism but you have to be a special kind of edgelord to not see what is going on in China and think it's okay.

There is a reason we have all sorts of workers protection, and there's a reason why China does not: their government does not want this to increase the competetiveness of their economy. Chinese people are the victims of their own government which doesn't care about them.
If Dutch or Australian people had to work these hours and shifts under these conditions, even for €10.000/month they would be on strike. But just look up what happens when a Chink goes on strike.
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>>129496609
How does communist china defend this?
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>>129497066
>>129497361
>>129497426
>>129498501
>>129498022

Note how they don't actually know how to solve the problem so they parrot what others say in hopes to shut you down from complaining.

These are shills.
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>>129499019
>communist
they're only communist in the sense that if you dare to speak out against this you get killed and have your rights stripped.
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... if you don't like what they're offering don't buy it
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>>129496609

>cost $225 to buil

bullshit. it doesn't cost a penny more than $100
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>>129497498
>Design and development cost : 320$
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>>129498954
And you likely use a shit teir android. High end Android prices are not much different
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>>129496743
esto
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>>129496609
HURR DURR PRICES SHOULD BE BASED ON COSTS AND NOT VOLUME

Fucking moron
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Apple has 116.000 FTE, and NONE of those are manufacturing workers. These are all designers, marketeers, Apple store employees, etc.
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>>129496609
But if 2 dollars translates to a living there why is it capitalists fault?
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>>129496609
They'd probably say it's the workers' fault for choosing to work in such a factory, or that it's the government's fault somehow.
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>>129499189
somalibro gets it
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>American consumers voluntarily spending their money on a good
>Chinese workers voluntarily agreeing to a wage and work hours

What needs defending here?
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>>129496930
That's because the majority of people simply do not care how many chinks die if it keeps the crap they want cheap. The problem isn't capitalism. The problems is that most people are unable to understand that by buying the crap made from chinese slave labor you are actively supporting chinese slave labor.
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>>129499553
>choosing to work
China has a hyper competetive job market and the government actively supresses any demands for better job conditions.

When in the USA people found fingers in their soup, the workers went on strike. In China they get mashed by a tank.
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>>129497306
>that image
I guess anybody who isn't an anarcho-capitalist isn't human then either.
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>>129497498

Dont forget transport costs, tax, packaging, advertising, employees to sell the thing
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>>129496609
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>>129498814
>>129498884
>>129499467
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=China&city1=Austin%2C+TX&city2=Shenzhen
and shenzhen is in no way a cheap town
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>>129498097
This picture sums it all up. Only retarded burgers defend (((capitalism))).
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>>129499115
>1 post by this ID
>quoted 5 people just to call them shills
No, retard. I told him what he can do as an individual. The next step is regulations to stop exploiting 3rd worlders and the other nation also implementing regulations. This obviously won't happen because the other nation welcomes any jobs they otherwise wouldn't have and any attempt to raise wages may scare off these companies.

How do you get these regulations? You need people who want change, people to boycott the companies, and people to voice their opinions and stick to their convictions. Unfortunately, that rarely happens unless the companies are kicking dogs. No one gives a fuck about other people if they're not in their circle.
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>>129499115
Biggest faggot on the thread. Go make an ad campaign to get other people to stop buying shit iPhones

>wahhh but y'all are shills
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>>129499553
>thinking chinks have a choice
Have a (You)
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These retards think Apple products are an essential good that should be tied to cost like water.
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>>129497507
>Capitalism is the evil Jews
>Communism is the evil Jews
>Fascism is based and totally not communism painted black instead of red
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>>129498772
I dunno, possibly because the company is intentionally paying them chicken shit while the owners and managers get rich?
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>>129496609
>export industry to communist county
>blame capitalism when it's not all roses and sunshine
I laughed.
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>Coworkers are bluepilled
>Paris Climate Accord comes up
>Tell them that by accepting the accord, as long as we have free trade, companies will go to countries that allow worker abuses and terrible pollution anyway
>They have no recourse
Thanks Apple for being so shit I can use you as an argument.
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>>129496834
>>129496986
>>129497203
>>129497507
>>129497645
Wrong. Capitalism died with sound money. See pic related. Sorry if its too much for you guys to comprehend

>>129498280
No. Wrong. Only a few governments in history have been the "one you deserve". Most of our "history" has been governments scripted by the numbers through gematria ritualists. AKA baby raping kikes.
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>USD 1.85 = CNY 12.58

APPLE PAYS AT OR BETTER THAN MINUMUM WAGE

oh vey it's anodda shoah
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>>129498097
So what's the third position?
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>>129496743
Ford was anti-communist. Capitalism is the natural order of things, communism was invented by kikes.

This thread's shilled out apparently, by kids who don't even know about the thing they're advocating.
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>>129499189
>if you just ignore evil it'll go away
as expected from a swedecuck
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>>129496743
this, national socialism is the way
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>>129496609
Nothing to defend, selling a product for a profit is as intended.
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>>129499999
kek has spoken, kill all gommies
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Oops, forgot the sage.
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>>129499692
>>129499861
I know that. Chinese workers are in a terrible situation. I was just demonstrating what some capitalists would say.
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>>129499999
>Capitalism is the natural order of things
Wrong. Capitalism is the proof of the degeneration of society.
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>>129499904
gr8 phones, gr8 apps
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>>129496609
If people think thats shit, then they can just not buy it. The thing is, most people complaining about poor wage for chinks are then ones that also buy a apple phone, mac, ipod and apple watch. Then they repeat the process every year.

Most people don't give a shit about how it was made or who got fucked, they just want it.
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>>129499001
What is going on in china is basic slavery. Glory be to our 8 hour workshifts and high wages if there aren't any damn jobs left
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>>129499999
I for one, appreciate the digits you have brought into this thread
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>>129500162
Wrong. Communism is.

Commies aren't even human.
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>>129500210
Yeah too bad we have more jobs than ever.
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>>129496609
YOU YOU FUCKING COMMIES and socialist scum are the ones that buys Apple fucking products. Go suck a dick in the next Starbucks you faggot.
Sage goes in all fields.
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>>129496609
Yeah, and you think some how developing the technology, managing the distribution and advertising cost absolutely nothing?

You are same kind of faggot that thinks a restaurant shouldn't charge more than the cost of the ingredients.
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>>129499896
Again, if the money is really bad by their standards, they'll go work elsewhere for a better deal

If it actually is the best those workers can get, then having that opportunity helps them
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>>129500136
Don't bother explaining things to autismos, anon
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There is probably some kind of shitty reporting when they say it cost 3x to make.
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>what's R&D cost
>implying there are the same standards of living in china and the west
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>>129499999
>DIGITS
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>>129500270
>Wrong. Communism is.
Wrong. Both are.
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>>129496609

The fact is the cost of distribution and organization and management and logistics is part of the cost of any product. Hence why water can cost $4 a bottle despite low cost to produce.
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Capitalism didn't cause degeneracy.

Degeneracy ruined capitalism. Consumerism and usury, the eternal friends of (((them))), disrupt and distort capitalism from being a free market exchange of goods and services for money, and turns it into a (((free))) market where the top 5 banks own everything and everyone and you goyim WILL be wageslaves and you WILL be happy about it (don't want to be called a fucking commie now do you?)
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>>129500471
Wrong, Capitalism is simply the commie word for free market exchange. It's freedom baby and socialism is the new uncool thing to rebel against.
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>>129500325
Im talking manufacturing jobs not bullshit office jobs that half are useless, basically made up to keep people from the streets and giving birth to useless hipsters
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>>129496609
Those slaves should've finished high school
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>>129496609
You know how much R&D goes into each model? Custom chipsets and optimized software to take advantage of it isn’t cheap. Then there’s advertising.

The real cost is quite a bit higher, but nevertheless they’re still making a significant profit on each device. Don’t like the product, then don’t buy it. That’s the beauty of capitalism. Evidently, enough people do value the product that highly and are willing to pay for it. That’s where competition comes into play. There’s not enough.
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>>129500374
You don't really get it do you. The money they're paid is shit, and there aren't many opportunities AFAIK. They're better off than they would be if unemployed, but they're much, much, much worse off than they should or could be. The people who control the wages intentionally keep wages down so they can afford new yachts and bribery. How is that not wrong?
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>>129500574
>Wrong, Capitalism is simply the commie word for free market exchange.
Wrong. Capitalism is distinct from free exchange of goods and services between neighbors. It is an institutionalized system of global degeneracy.
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>>129499999
>>129496743
He's right though. Capitalism is simply being exploited on an international level merely because of the absolute failure of the result of communism in China. If it was such a huge issue, who does the chinese government allow those kinds of wages/hours/stress to be put on its citizens? Because leeching off the result from capitalism is all they can do.
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>>129500600
Like I said, we have more jobs than ever and they generate shitloads of money which circulate through our economy.
This whole 'everyone in the west just pushes pens so they don't end up on the streets' meme is so fucking stupid. You think any company in this country wastes money on purpose to serve as a welfare institution?
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>>129500574
Exchanges have been going on for hundreds of thousands of years. Any encyclopedia will say that capitalism is less than a few centuries old.
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>>129499999
Ford also hated unfair wages and hours and was one of the first business leaders to implement fairness in those areas you fucking moron
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>>129496609
Apple is dropping in sales because competitors are making better products

I will not defend this, its a terrible thing and its pretty much what living under communism will be like
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>>129500696
No it's not.

>>129500772
Encyclopedias written by commies anyway.

Romans had 'capitalist' ventures where investors would pool their resources to turn a profit by investing in some plan or another.
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>>129497443
lol you're trash
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What about logistics/overhead?

Shipping, advertising, lawyers, and all the other things you need to sustain or grow a business that large?

Note: I still have a $25/month flip phone (verizon), so I'm no Apple shill...
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>>129501124
Making a shit product and raising the price to absurd levels is a good way to ruin your business in the long run
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>>129497597
only idiots don't buy
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There is literally nothing wrong with capitalism, what the world currently had is crony capitalism, that is the problem.
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>>129500822
>was one of the first business leaders to implement fairness in those areas
Yet he hated commies and labor unionists.

Anyway you're wrong, long before Ford, Carl Zeiss had things like paid sick leave, paid educational upgrades, paid maternity and paternity leave, etc. Labor unionists didn't even exist when CZ Stiftung was formed.
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>>129499988
Economic centrism. We are fine with the exchange of goods, don't tolerate jews fucking up our countries with poo in loos, spics, and usury because it is good for capitalism.
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>>129501195
China has the absolute worst combo of socialism and captialism
Along with anti worker laws and a 'dog eat dog' mentality that it has been pushing since forever
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>>129501092
>muh communist conspiracy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_capitalism
Capitalism existed in part on a small scale but didn't become predominant until relatively recently.
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>>129496609

Cheap fabric and dim lighting, that's how you sell a suit.
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>>129496609
>$1.85/h
>In Chinese industrial areas

When normalised for buying power, those fuckers probably earn twice my wages and no way I'm getting those hours.
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You can't be redpilled and own a smartphone.
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>>129501349
Take your gommie bullshit elsewhere.
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>>129496743
you defend capitalism also stop being racist.
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>>129496609
Looks good 2 me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>129501411
Kikes, niggers, spics, subhumans, chinks, japs, leafs, mudslimes

Am I missing any?
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>>129497838
It's a big overhead for them but they must make their own soc to support all the gimmicks. If course they draw their shit around premade arm cores.
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>>129496609
There's more to cost to build than just the materials. No one is forcing those worker to work for Apple.

Anything else?
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>you mean globalists will defend this
This is what globalism results in.
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>>129496743
>Dearborn mich

No wonder the jews islamified that county. It all makes sense now.
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>>129501584
i dont think apple is forcing, i believe its more of the conditions in their lives are so damned awful they dont have any other choice

like all those guys in India that work at faux call centers and scam people because its a job and they need to feed their families

the difference is that China's goverment is a lot less good to its own working class
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>>129501711
China's a communist country, and like any communist country the party officials get rich and everybody else starves eventually.
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>>129496609
Research and development costs, businesses need to make a profit and what's wrong with exploiting the cheap chink labor force? Also only faggots and hippie degenerates use apple products. I suspect op is an avid Apple fan.
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>>129496609

Not gonna wadte my time and gonna explain it again, redarded commi
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>>129496609
Minimize costs and maximize profits.
Charging what the market will bear.
This is capitalism.
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>>129501991
retarded capitalist
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>>129501873
Exactly, communism was 'supposed' to be about lifting up the poor and the starving but all it has done is fuck over the poor and starving while making the high politicans and top ranking military fat and rich

the chinese have suffered under Red China, i sometimes wished that the Blue Chinese had won the war so it wouldnt be this fucking nightmarish

their goverment is gonna topple one day
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>>129496609
This post completely leaves out the (likely american/whatever market it's being sold in) people who designed, marketed, and sold the item

Price = 649

german/japanese/etc engineering firm providing parts = 219.80

communism chink slave assembly = 5

Design cost = ?

Packaging/shipping cost = ?

Marketing cost = ?

Sales cost = ?

Apple total profit per unit sold = ?
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>>129496609
isnt that kinda misleading? does that just include chink labor or apple employees including USA marketing, compliance, financial affairs, tax etc?
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>>129496609
Not our business if communist china sells its slaves labor. We are happy to support a bid to end communism there.
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>>129502171
I would agree with you if it wasnt for the fact Apple sells shitty products with anti consumer software
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>>129502055

Why do you have a pic of Rocio Durcal? Why
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>>129497443
>3 x 1 = 1,75
we got ourselves a bigmac, lads
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>>129496609
Because if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it?
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>>129496609
Thanks Globalism
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>>129497443
They're not selling at a 75% profit you fucking moron. R&D, marketing and design all have it's costs too.
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>>129497443
you are objectively wrong and also retarded
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>>129502510
And how will not buying a product change the capitalist system?

>>129502598
You are objectivily wrong and mentally ill
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>>129501410
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>>129496609
They don't. They have liberals to do it for them.
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>>129502068
The anti-communist Chinese were pretty bad too. Their control saw famine, economic issues, and general misery just like the Great Famine time did.
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>>129496609
>how do capitalists defend this?
by buying them, obviously
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>>129496930
You as an individual wouldn't be able to do anything anyway.
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if you own a Crapple product you should be gassed
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>>129502841
what about the Green Chinese, the Royals
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>>129502672
How dumb are you? You realize companies set the price based on total profit? They know idiots will dish out thousands for their shite "new" iphones and can therefore set the price high to make more money. The customer controls the market, not the company.
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>>129496609
>first pic
then just don't buy one
>secound pic
China is shit and water is wet
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>>129496609
By not buying the product. Only commie fags force you to do shit.
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>>129503088
You're dumb. Here's the problem with capitalism. EVEN if you there is a free product they still charge you for this (money)
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>>129503331
only nazis are for capitalism,
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>>129499895
How is fascism, and communism similar?
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>>129497443
>75%
- R&D
- all other employees outside of manufacturing
- marketing
Their actual profit margin is a still huge 34%, from their financial filings iirc. They have or had like 92% share of profits with only a fraction of the marketshare of other companies which is crazy. And Samusung had 15%. The sum is >100% because literally all other companies were losing money.
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>>129503529
Until you understand that it is customers who control a firm's prices, you need to stop shitposting your communist cancer.
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>>129503551
pretty sure its National Socialism is what theyre for
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>>129502963
Applel is better than Macroshit and Jewgle. The first completely datamines your computer and doesnt event respect your settings, the second is almost as bad but at least its free.

Lolnix is a joke made by autists who think the average person is thrilled by doing everything through the command line and having to read 20 pages to change a setting.

Modern personal computing is shit, freetards had a chance and completely blew it.
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Then dont buy it. It is a phone underneath it all, but with full computer functions. It's handy, but ultimately another tool of distraction in technology pushed too far. Your better off getting a basic phone and separate mp3 player, hell do you need internet everywhere you go? The technology has gotten smarter, but has man gotten smarter off it? Damn fools nowadays keep up to date on their twitter and instagram but haven't a clue as to things like history. I have a smartphone currently, but eh. Didn't really see the net benefit off it, wouldn't mind going back to a flip phone afterwards.
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>>129503692
Stop spewing your fascist bullshit, corporations can jack up prices to infinity if they want to. Look at diamonds and that diamond company that jacks up the price.
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>>129504051
communism can jack prices down so much all the companies go out of business and everyone starves
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>>129504223
Ummm no actually. In communism all the businesses get abolished by the government and anyone who owns one serves time in prison or in Russia's case a Gulag.
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>>129504051
Must be baiting. Nobody is this stupid, right? Right?
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>>129504294
Venezuela
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Hey commies. How do you explain this?
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>>129504485
Nahhh, I don't think the CIA running farm burning operations in your country has anything to do with communism

>>129504435
You're obviously trolling, no one is seriously a capitalist in this day and age. Yes there are stupid people, but anyone who claims they like capitalism seriously would be thrown in a lunatic bin.
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>>129504764
youre a troll or extremelly stupid
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>>129496743
fpbp
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The invisible hand of the free market will solve this problem. Make petitions, make news reports, make demonstrations complaining about the horrible conditions in communist China and call for a boycott on capitalist companies like Apple doing what they can to maximize profits until they do what you want them to, or take your business to another smartphone manufacturer that pays their employees better wages and have better living conditions. You can't punish a company for making money. Communism doesn't work.
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>>129502680
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>>129504847
You're a troll or very stupid. If you said anything you said at my university you'd be thrown out.
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>>129496609
I SAY, IT BE THE FREEEE MARKET

HORDES OF HUNGRY PEOPLE ALL WANT TO WORK, THEY ALL GET NIGGER WAGES AND NOTHIN MORE

WHEEWEE GOTTA GO DRIVE MAH MAZERATI TO THE OIL DEPOT TO INVEST WITH MAH JEWISH BUDDIES, AIN'T LIFE HELL???
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>>129505169
>at my university
yes we know commie kikes run your university

who cares
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>>129505169
Well lucky me, Im not in Canada as you slowly destroy yourselves
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>>129505272
>educated people are commies
You have no idea what was going on, i was replying to a troll.
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>>129505359
>implying youre even educated and not just brainwashed
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>>129500374
Their pea brains cant comprehend the idea that the amount of money they are making is the best possible wage they can expect, and without those jobs paying them pennies, they would literally be homeless and starving or doing much harder work just to grow food to eat.
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>>129505543
I am educated. Jordan Peterson goes to my university he says what you say only he has a 10 year contract so he can't be fired for 10 years if he didn't he'd be fired so quickly.
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>>129496743
Exactly, NatSoc here we come!
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>>129497443
If you think that's bad, you should never buy a soda at a restaurant.
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>>129506249
This, the soda cup costs more than the soda.
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>>129496609
You Commie Cucks act like it's the American Companies that set up those Chink factory laws. We just abide by them.

Blame the Chinks and their Half Commie, Half Capitalist country.
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>>129501349
>Capitalism existed in part on a small scale but didn't become predominant until relatively recently.
Feudalism worked on capitalistic principles.

So long as people are exchanging resources with the understanding that they must give to receive, capitalism is occurring.
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>>129496609
If goyim buy it then what's the problem?
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>>129496609
Contrary to what so many good people – out of sheer terror of ‘Communism’ – think, Capitalism is not ‘free enterprise,’ an incentive for success, ‘a chance for all.’ Capitalism is trusts, speculation, parasitical usury. Capitalism is J. P. Morgan, Rothschild’s bank, ripping apart the nations like maddened swine. Capitalism is the Jewish frying pan in which culture is rendered down to the grease of money. Following it, as the night to day, is the thrice hotter Jewish fire of ‘Communism.’
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capitalism is evil, we want socalism and a globalized world. Implement minimum wage and other regulations. Higher production costs drive companies to nations with lower fiscal regulations. Blame capitalism again.
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>>129508769
>we want socalism and a globalized world
You're not going to get it. Be happy with your rapist muslim niggers, you can keep 'em.
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>>129498772
careful bro you are getting too close to the truth for pol

this is a place of dumb quick responses and insults
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Chinese aren't human so they shouldn't have human rights.
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>>129496609
I have an iphone, i don't care.

Chances are a lot of your stuff is made in some shithole sweatshop where people are getting paid about $1 an hour

Remember when it was revealed that a shirt with feminist slogans on it was being made by women making about 60p an hour?
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>>129499999
Kek confirms
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>>129496609
This may come as a shock, but most things are sold for far more than they cost to make.
Why do you think shopping online is so popular these days to the point of putting many stores out of business?
It lets people buy directly from the company or from amazon and skip the brick and mortar retailer price gouging.
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