Hey boot lickers, can you guys explain this please?

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>>129481595
>A fucking LEAF
>Implying the current system is capitalism
>Calling actual capitalists bootlickers while most likely advocating a system like socialism or fascism where you are literally a slave
But for JB Peterson, I wish Canada would go McNuke itself.

>>129481595
What are the contradictions here again? Nothing on this graph contradicts the idea of a free(dom) market.

>>129481595

>There's a difference between "American poor" and "poor"

>Croney capitalism =/= capitalism

>Capitalism =/= garanteed equal distribution of resources

>No examples of a successful communist or socialist system ever

Theres nothing on that list that contadicts capitalism. If anything is shows the symptoms of Kansian economics.

>>129481595
1. Incentives for construction
2. Ivy League bias, having time to go into politics, being dependent on only yourself to go into politics
3. Concept of poverty changes, and that's the period of the great recession
4. Same issue with changing definitions of poverty, as those people would be kings in actual poor countries and in same country 50 years ago.
5. That series uses two different deflators so it's wrong, comparing apples and oranges.
6. Shows you why diversity and poverty reducing programs don't work, as they have been tried just after the civil rights movement and failed. Shows you the only way to actually stop crime is to put all the criminals in jail.
7. "Discretionary budget". Graph made to be misleading by using differently shaped "bars"

There you go, cuck. Now, fuck off.

How do we increase the number of black people in prisons?

>>129481595
If anything this proves the government sucks at trying to correct all the "problems" it tries to solve and only makes them worse

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>>129481595

Every single claim in your shitty infomeme has nothing to do with the free market (aka capitalism) but with state intervention and regulation.

Despite that, you really have the nerve to blame it on the simple concept of supply and demand that things go wrong?

How retarded are you?

>>129481595
Capitalism is in its final stages anyway.

>>129481595
Hey, maybe black men actually commit mord crime?

>>129481595
>Poverty in the US
>Middle class in Soviet Union
The choice is pretty obvious. Now if you can come up with a better system than capitalism, I'd like to hear it.

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>>129483718
With the state of modern """""capitalism""""", God, I hope so. Let's get this show on the road.

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>>129481595
1) They would stop building houses if you gave them to the Homeless
2) You got to have money to get elected (get your views out there).
3) 2008 crisis, how many people on welfare. Stop giving money from people that do stuff to people that don't.
4)Wage stagnation on same plane as people on welfare and debt. As those both have increased wages have decreased correlating to inflation.
5) Most other countries would just kill inmates, we have a nigger problem.
6) It is time the rest of the world steps up for their own defense. We project power which makes us strong! Constitution: It is for the government to provide for the defense of liberty, a mandate that precedes POTUS Johnson's Great Society!

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>>129481595

>Capitalism is the only method that has brought humanity forward.
>Marxism AND Communism BOTH divided nations, killing thousands of "privileged" people in the name of "Equality" (which is something American college campuses need to watch the fuck out for)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btVNUDN_P3E

>Fascism purposefully divides minorities in the name of political gain and exterminates them one by one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K6-cEAJZlE


Capitalism is the embodiment of one of humanities natures, greed.

You want to have the nicest car on your street, you want to have the biggest house, you want the biggest paycheck, so you work for it.

You want that snazzy new expensive phone, you want to pay extra to have that cultural seal of approval, you want to function as a member of society BECAUSE you want to have money.

Capitalism is cold, it's mean, it's horrible to those less fortunate, but it works.

All other ways have been tried, and all those mighty countries fell, When the soviets found out outer city villagers were killing farmers because they were "privileged" they had to put up posters telling the starving people not to eat their children.

When the Fascist regime finally crumbled in Germany, the people began to realize they had killed millions of their own people for nothing.

If you want to stand here and tell me that you're righteous and benevolent because of your race or your heritage, then go right ahead.

But before you do so, open a fucking history book once in a while.

>>129481595
My life is good and I have very few concerns. I don't support changing the system because my life probably wouldn't be as good with retards like you dictating things. Simple as that.

>>129481595
It's basically irrelevant. Capitalism turned usa from uncharted no man's land into no.1 superpower on earth. Say what you will but only other good option is authoritarian national-capitalism/developmentalism model of china.

Capitalism is the only way fror at least some people to get rich, and when those people are rich they can hire other people and share their wealth with others. People are NOT equal, some are stupid, some are clever, in capitalism those clever people get to be rich but they also pull up those stupid people around them into better future.

On the other hand we have socialism and communism that makes people equal by force, and as we all know you can't make stupid people be suddenly clever so you treat clever people as idiots and create system in which everyone is fucking poor.

>>129485051
Socialism and communism just makes everyone poor aside from a select few who are friends with the extremely powerful government.

Some idiots think bread lines are good because everyone is getting bread.

>>129485309
This is basically why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

JP Morgan loves this kind of shit.

>>129481595
thank god im not an americunt. in germany people care, you are being taken care of. in the US every monkey has a gun, 19/20 people are slaves to 1 person. horrible. here i can fuck children in my cellar all day long and no one bats an eye.

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Inequality is caused by extreme growth of wealth which is caused by fiat currency printing.

Slow the growth and laws of thermodynamics will distribute wealth more equally.

Honestly i laugh at american feminists and sjws, they have no idea how useful idiots for viral marxist ideology they are. If they manage to change the system in USA one day, they gonna be lined near the wall and shot in the name of equality they fight so hard to enforce.

>>129481595
>communist leaf
>calling others "bootlickers"
fucking lol

>>129483695
>People who already have all the power are in favor of keeping it
>People who don't want another system
Wow, what a discovery! Surely this means [my political agenda] is vindicated!

>>129486275
its exactly the other way around. printing money out of hot air increases equality, stopping that would decrease it.

>>129486478
Printing money causes massive chain effect, unstoppable inflation which later on makes everyone poor as shit.

>>129486478
How exactly?

By adding wealth (energy) you allow the system work against increasing enthropy and stay out of equilibrium.

>>129481942
Socialism and capitalism can co-exist...

>>129481595
None of these are caused by capitalism, they are all caused by socialism and interventionism

>>129482990
No examples of a successful capitalist system either

>>129483161
>Shows you why diversity and poverty reducing programs don't work, as they have been tried just after the civil rights movement and failed. Shows you the only way to actually stop crime is to put all the criminals in jail.

Everything you said just then was pretty much right except for this.

>>129487141
He said, typing on his expensive computer, powered by electricity, in an air conditioned house.

>>129483325
By making more of the stuff they do illegal.

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>>129487383
>capitalism invented technology

>>129487383
All of which I obtained through government programs.

>>129487477
>Capitalism gave us an economy so your uneducated hick fuck family could afford technology

>>129487563
This

>>129481595
Humans do not longer use term called bootlicker. Hillary has nothing to do but dink Stoli & Shitpost, Madam?

>>129482599
hello there (((Friedman)))

>>129486955
its all good as long as long as money is covered by goods.

if you print more money than goods, inflation will kick in, eventually equalizing everything value down to worthlessness

if you print less money than goods deflation kicks in, and concentration of cash at a few people will occur

> inflation: everythings soften up, equally worthless
> deflation: currency hardens out and concentrates at a few people

you dont want any of these two but rather a right goods=money match. as this isnt possible we figured small inflation of <2% is better than deflation cause inflation "keeps us going".

i studied economics and technology, i see the link you did with thermodynamic entropy you made (which is not too odd), but inflation can be equated with "hot" and deflation with "cold", it makes more sense

>>129487522
So you're telling me all that research and development of those HUGE breakthroughs in technology were all paid for by your government?

>socialism
>good
come on, after all the dead bodies that have been pillin up since that jewish wacko of marx came up with that cancerous ideology it is become abundantly clear it doesn't work, it goes against human nature itself and even though it sounds nice at first, when one does his research regarding what socialism really does nothing good can be get when the so called priviledge ones, and it's not only the wealthy dudes but anyone with talent or expertise on any field from medicine to engineering, fucking run away because your government pretty much wants you to work for free or gives you crumbs even if gaining that knowledge took time and shekels...capitalism ain't perfect, but it is the only system that's worked, the real problem right now is the centralization of pretty much everything: knowledge, technology, internet, etc. little by little we're being herded into this state in which there's no way to tell we're not living in a socialist order.

>>129482990
>croney
learn words
>what is Yugoslavia
Most of the people in Slovenia will tell you that socialism was better than the current capitalistic system.
Read about history other than american.

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>>129487563
Funny how every responder here seems to see clearly this a post made by Stoli drinking comrade of other older American women with a raging bones for Putin. Yes, Madam?

>>129487339
Head start programs have been a massive failure in all countries. Differences persist, they still complain.

Since the only way to reduce poverty is by creating a subculture of parasites, I'd rather have them in jail.

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>>129487065
Goverment refrains from interveining, but taxes to the point of social equality.

Also doesn't socialism mean the companys are owned by the goverment, or the workers?
How is that capitalism?

>>129481595
Sure: Things cost money, nothing in the world is free and if anyone says otherwise they are lying. Some people are good at making money and then they buy things. Some people are losers and don't buy things. You can't tax a nation into prosperity, but you can use taxes to buy weapons for the military so both the winners and losers can live in relative safety. The poor will always be with us, and you can't simply take from the winners to make them less poor, so you provide basic infrastructure and allow them the chance to better themselves. Freedom is a double edged sword though, and the freedom to succeed also means the freedom to fail. If you can't hack it, that's your problem and nobody else owes you a fucking thing.

>>129488092
Boner. Raging BONER

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>>129488092
I'm a BritFag, so I apparently should be worshiping this communist (who isn't even remotely communist btw lol)

>>129485309
holy shit americans are really delusional about socialism.. i guess you need that one "necessary evil" to refer to when you can’t explain why your own country is failing. Guess (((who’s))) behind it

The 1% already won and cannot be defeated, if you even try and touch them, your country turns into Ukraine until the people there are desperate enough to destroy whatever culture of independence they have in order to get the rich cock back in their mouth.

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>>129488319
I'd love to get on board with this conspiracy theory about how Putin masterfully rigged an election, but really at most he probably just ran propaganda.

In my country people have been known to vote for people because of the color of their tie, or for which logo looked the nicest.

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>>129488780
Man, it would totally suck to be caught talking about history on a 4chan thread with an Axis power flag that got absolutely shit on during the war wouldn't it?

>>129488584
Then I can free my people from slavery to the 1% by killing all of my people, right?

Better dead than a slave I say.

>>129488319
I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on socialism.

>>129488968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulHR8C4ZZes just for context

>>129481595
Fake news Healthcare spending vastly eclipses military spending so all other numbers come into question.

>>129481942
>b-but its not real capitalism

>>129487141
the most technologically advanced and luxurious societies are capitalist

>>129488076
That's quite a claim. Gonna need to see a source on that.
http://www.dvhh.org/history/atrocities/chap_1_tito_1944-48.htm
I guarantee you you would not have wanted to live in socialist yugoslavia

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>>129489555
That was the first thing I thought of 8^)

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>>129481595
Oh, this thread again.

>>129481595
>poverty skyrocketing
>under Comrade Obama's rule

lol

>>129481595
America has the most millionaires and billionaires in the world. Explanation enough, jackass?

https://youtu.be/xP5MfjW9TuU 5 yo

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>>129490488
But we also have a bazillion living in extreme poverty - a mere $20 per day! How do they even survive?! We must overthrow this capitalist system that benefits only the bourgeoisie. Trickle down economics was a lie!

Meanwhile in India

>>129490162
Fucking typical American, uses an apostrophe in the text of their meme, forgets to use it in the actual joke.

>>129491474 Still salty about the Revolutionary War mate?

>>129485051
>Say what you will but only other good option is authoritarian national-capitalism/developmentalism model of china.


well I will say that this is over simplified bullshit and just plain wrong.

but hey, don't let reality interfere with your political and economic fantasy world, will you?

>>129482990
>not REAL capitalism

>>129491722
At least we know how to colonize countries, it took you Yank fucks years to even get a foot in 'Nam, and when you did you still had to retreat.

You lost to zipper heads with out of date weaponry!

At least when Her Majesty decides to attack, she only loses when the odds are against her.

>>129485309
>Socialism and communism just makes everyone poor aside from a select few who are friends with the extremely powerful government.

well... nope. You are wrong there. not true. Nah. Sorry, try reading some history, and for that matter looking at socialist governments in the world...

>>129492254
Name one communist civilization in history that wasn't riddled with poverty.

>>129492181
It's really nice you don't know shit about our history, Paris Peace accord mean nothing to you, when the gooks literally signed paper saying we lost.

Then we went home, and they re invaded.

Read a book teanigger.

>>129487116
except that under a free market system the military spend would be tiny, and the medical and educational spend would be even smaller.

while the first would be good, the second two would be terrible...

>>129492458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSjFVH2Zc5E

>Teanigger
Love it!

Note how you lost?

You literally just said "we lost" in your comment?

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>>129483695
>>129483446
>>129487116

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>>129481595
>18.4 million empty homes meme

Yeah, that meme includes summer houses and other private property that belongs to other people. Instead you could just ask "Why wouldn't we take away those houses from their rightful owners and give it to niggers because why fucking not?" and got yourself some lead in organism that you lack so much.

>>129487991
many were.

But in a full freemarket system there is no reason to think that they would be developed at all. Or developed faster or any better or more efficiently.

some central co-ordination and co-operation is necessary. and some goods are best provided by taxation and central spending. a mixed system is the best.

anyone saying otherwise is just bullshitting

>>129492832
>Didn't name a single one

Typical French, always retreating and surrendering.

>>129481595

>22 empty homes for every homeless person
OK!
>Percentage of millionaires:
OK, why is this so bad though?
>Poverty rise
OK
>Stagnant wages & tax dollars spent
Literally ((them)) having US by the balls by inflation and interest.

Get rid of ((them)) and their control of the banking system and these problems would all be reduced, capitalism itself is not the problem. The rich and the super rich is not the problem, the ultra rich evil sociopathic international banksters are.

>Racist criminal justice system
Matches up well with difference between races, blacks are more prone to violence, latinos too, whites not as much. Asians even less they don't even show up.

>>129488131
co-operative companies can work in a market system - the cpaitl is jointly owned (like shareholders really - an idea that Adam Smith was deeply against)

more to the point - what most americans and pol tards call socialsm is the use of taxation adn central planned spending to make a society function. they have a weird notion that this is somehow not necessary, and that if they had no taxation and no government the world would be a batter place.

you couldn't make this shit up...

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>>129487477
Why are leftist memes so horribly unfunny?

>>129489805
>>129492148

I'm not that guy but he's right we don't live under real capitalism. Real capitalism would create a far greater disparity than we have now and there's nothing wrong with that.

>>129491327
The benefits of trickle down economics were largely exagerated and misrepresented.

>>129481595
haha funny leaf talking funny shit

>>129486275
Except historically, the highest periods of inequality have all been before fiat currency.
Back when wealth was backed by gold, or grain, or some other commodity or resource, you used to see 99% of the wealth owned by the monarch or emperor or some other such figure.

Unbacked currency is a necessity, and that's been proven a billion times now. Our economy could not continue to exist, let alone grow, on a materially backed currency because resources are finite.

Somehow, only Libertard morons reading outdated Rand books seem to have missed the research on the matter.

>>129486955
Entropy does not exist in finance as it does in physics.
Take it from me, a fucking engineer. Money does not randomly distribute itself to equalize.
YOU'RE BASICALLY CALLING TRICKLEDOWN ECONOMICS "THERMODYNAMICS".

You subhuman fuck. You're stealing a word with real meaning, with respect behind it, to cover up the fact that you are so glaringly stupid that you still believe trickledown works after DECADES OF PROOF THAT IT DOESN'T.

Holy fuck Libertarians are the dumbest sacks of shit on the planet.

>>129492362
I said socialist. Not communist.

Things also need to be looked at in context of their origins. Soviet Russia started extremely poor, and Stalin fucked it up, so not surprising that russia is still poor adn fucked up despite decades of capitalism. Or oligarchic kleptodracy, which is now spreading to athe UK adn the US...

France is basically a socialist country. So is Denmark, Norway, Sweeden. Switzerland has aspects that most on this board would call communist. Because they don't know that the word means.

there are elements of socialism in every successful country - and the lack of those elements in every failing one. American neo fuedalism is one of those failing models.

>>129481595

It means you suck.

>>129493183
It's ridiculous how many people claim that government is 100% incompetent and evil despite the fact that we'd be completely fucked without fire departments, building codes, police, roads, fire codes, workplace safety regulations, and the like.

>>129493512
Enjoy your Haiti-tier country.

I'll take poverty in the US over middle class in a communist hell hole. Having cars, food a house and air conditioning is pretty nice even if you're poor. Rather that than starving to death or having rations.

>>129481595
>millions of empty homes
They are in the processes of being sold.
>"near poor"
not relevant. I make 40k a year and am "near poor" and I still save 1000 dollars a months.

Poverty in america is a better standard of living than middle class in mexico or romania.

>>129492929
the internet. The human genome project. jsut about all space tech until about fifteen years ago. nuclear power. major infrastructure that allows business to flourish.

And add to that the development by "private" industry at the behest of government - supersonic aircraft, jet engines, large capacity aircraft. Renewable energy sources.

All the research pid for by government.

oh but that was all due to the market, yeah?

oh yes, the market was just queuing up to pay for CERN, and for the advanced mathematics that allows modern encryption...

and again, I am not French just work here. And could I just mention that it is the UK who are running away at the moment...

>>129494650
The average Cuban actually has some things that a poor American probably doesn't. They're not rich by any means, but they're doing surprisingly well for a poor country. Think about that for a second. Some people in the richest country in human history lack things that are available to people in a poor, economically isolated island nation.

>>129493512
>and there's nothing wrong with that

until the revolution comes...

you just think you would be the one saying "let them eat cake" but don't think that you will be the one looking up from the basket wondering why you can't feel your toes...

>>129481595
You blame Capitalism for your failures and the statistic failures you have presented. And so i will disprove all the claims you have made or give my opinion on them. The first claim that this Image gives is that There are 22 empty homes for each homeless person, A study done in 2013 has proven that there are mostly homeless people in "richer" states. Advancement of economy naturally creates wealth inequality and it creates better conditions for most people in general. California has the most homeless people (136,826 people) but i would much rather live there instead of South Dakota which has 1,094 people. Along with these statistics not just being based on population in general, California also has the highest percentage as well.

Your second statistic states that 50% of all congress members are millionaires and that 1% of Americans are millionaires. This cannot exactly be solved without drastic changes in demographic or politics in general. It is known that Corruption goes on in our political system and that is a mostly unstoppable constant in modern government systems and it cannot be changed. 1% percent of Americans being millionaires is a unstoppable constant as well, as not being a necessarily bad thing considering if we wanted to change that we would distribute wealth equally (and that is proven not to work)

The next statistic/map you present states that poverty is increasing in many states and my simple answer to that is the policies post 2008 recession and the recession itself, and so hopefully we agree that economic change is needed to fix our country but you obviously think that the problem is capitalism. But i ask you which system shall replace it? I agree we need change but not the change that you wish. And racial statistics are proven that minorities cause significant more poverty to a country. (I will return to that later on)
1/2

>>129481595
You then state that because of productivity rising that wages should as well. My answer to this is that automation has caused manual labor significantly worth less and thus not rise as productivity rises. Raising the minimum wage will not fix this as that will cause inflation because of the amount of money in circulation for low wage jobs.

Non white Hispanics and African Americans cause significantly more crime than Whites. No just in "unjustified" arrests but murder and robbery. And this is not just because of the fact that they are more poor but because of IQ differences, More aggressive behavior, and Single motherhood (48.5% of African Americans live just with their mother compared to 18.3 percent of Whites)

You finally state that our tax dollars are being spent on military far too much, Which proves you don't understand the united states involvement in paying for NATO, defense (which is needed because of its global role in Europe, Asia, and the middle east) and it being the only "western" nation that spends so much on its military as to protect (and involve itself) in other nations/allies ambitions. 2/2

>>129494541
and how many think that it would be a nice peaceful society with everyone voluntarily helping each other out...

>>129492362
Communism isnt socialism.
You sound like a retarded youtuber

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>>129481595
>tfw too smart to know what is a boot licker
>tfw too smart to use (((google)))
>tfw too smart and own 43 acres and have no student debt
>tfw too smart to go to college
Kys

>>129495248
Some people just don't care. They think that the best system is every man for himself with minimal outside help.

>>129490133
I was born in yugoslavia.
the only people who were exterminated were those that were nazi collaborators during ww2.

Sure, people kept disappearing afterwards, but at least that kept all the degeneracy in check. Nowadays people beat up someone to death and upload the video on facebook and get a few months of prison. 30 years ago they would have been shot for that, which is indeed what such people deserve.

>>129494288
this..
so many people on /pol/ equate socialism or a system with strong social basis with something "evil" and "bad", without looking at a wider context and successful examples.
And it looks like people are also confused about communism, since every one who has intentions to help another one is a "commie". wtf.

>>129487477
Capitalism actually did bring us computers and the internet and shit though, the entire infrastructure of the internet was built on the dollars of private citizens. The government had virtually no interest at all in the project until it became too big to ignore.
Are you always this retarded?

>>129487477
Bill Gates didn't revolutionize computer technology because he wanted to advance society, he did it because he saw the potential to tap into the biggest market in the world before it existed.
People don't dedicate their lives to advancements like that and marry their work because they're faggot commies who wanna give it all away.

>>129481595
>Cream rises to the top
>People don't like to work for free
I really don't understand why any of this would be confusing to you
Do you honestly expect Congress to be filled with poorfags? Or for people to let the homeless just fuck your house up just because it doesn't currently have a buyer?

>>129499331
I'm going to take a hard pass lol

>>129487141
What's your idea of a perfect system, a fucking Utopia? Doesn't exist, won't ever exist mate

>>129501199
that’s why your country’s society is shit

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>>129500700
>anon spends his life studying and working to better himself and get a high end career and contribute to society so he can reap the rewards and get a nice home.
>OP nigger puts a homeless meth addict who drinks his own piss into the house next door and gives the hobo half of anons wealth
>pic related

>>129501922
FYI, these homeless meth addicts really do drink their own piss, in an attempt to reuse the chemicals they pissed out.

Why defend capitalism if socialism is inevitable? With AI, most jobs will be gone. The only way to allocate resources properly will be through socialism.

Never reply to leaf threads.

>>129481595

you simply do not see the big picture

>>129501922
extreme examples + it doesn’t have to be 100% socialism

>>129499779
>since every one who has intentions to help another one is a "commie". wtf.

do not dress up wealth redistribution as "helping others" People who say that shit pretty much has no real job or income so they're not "Helping others" they are taking from others under the guise of being so so nice.

Taxation is legally mandated theft

>>129502969
There's no such thing as just a little socialism, because socialism breeds socialists.

>>129502969
When you teach people the premise of equality, they will pursue it to its end

>>129504073
you don’t seem to know how the majority of european countries function.
There is indeed a mix of socialism and capitalism.

>>129493409
Because they confuse verbosity with wit.

>>129504296
and over the past 200 years, what direction has it been shifting towards?

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If anyone thinks they can discuss economics without discussing monetary policy they are mentally ill, unread, human garbage that needs to die suffering and alone because of what you could do to the world.

Please. Enlighten me Keynesians. Defend pic related.

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>>129504413
>>129504413
whenever i see leftist memes theyre so fucking bad

i really try considering whether my political biases are warping my view of them but i have real doubts. why are they uniformly so bad?

>>129498124
What state do you own the 43 acres in? You a homesteader?

>>129481595

1. It's good that we have so few homeless. They aren't starving and they get plenty of help.
2. Ambitious and successful people tend to earn money and power
3. Only poor relative to other Amerifats. Neither of these things are well defined.
4. You can't blame capitalism because capitalism was around when wages were going up. It's like blaming gravity for an airplane crash.
5. We're too nice to kill the bastards that commit the most crime.
6. >discretionary budget instead of total budget

And all of these things are the result of many decisions of public and private actors. It is foolish to blame capitalism.

>>129481595
>49 in poverty

That's a lie. There's practically 0 in poverty. Because "in poverty" is different than "below the poverty line", which means you get free food, cash, house, electricity, phone, healthcare.

We currently live under a mixed system, but under pure capitalism there would still be inequality. Inequality is great, it allows highly intelligent people to invest in capital goods that increase the productivity of the average rube. That's why we live so well today compared to the past.

>>129481595
This is why corpratism is the best economic system

>>129495103
This

>>129481595
kikes

>>129481595
>muh houses
they require additional infrastructure(electricity, plumbing) which is not free and they're often situated in non-productive areas
>muh millionaires
They rule Congress because they're usually better than you or they're kikes
>muh people in poverty
niggers and spics basically, try to run the numbers again with only white people
>muh wages
Increased government power and gibs
>muh prisons
Blacks, spics and the prison industrial complex
>tax spending
dishonest

You're complaining about military spending when Trudeau is putting all our tax money into helping jihadist dune coons, stop being a stereotypical leaf and maybe we won't get ridiculed, making us look like the French and Aboriginal.... Weak AF

>>129482990
>There's a difference between "American poor" and "poor"

I always knew this to be true from my shitposting experience but I saw it first hand travelling the US last month. It's even worse than the memes let on. Yuge portions of the population living in eastern Europe tier poverty.

Shit that happens in the US usually makes it's way to Europe a few years later. If that wealth gap takes over the whole world we are seriously fucked. Currently we are clinging on to our middle class.

>>129481595
Equity, equality, and equal opportunity are incompatible with reality.

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>>129481595
that's no capitalism that's a result of the central banks.

>>129481595
>there are 22 homes for every homeless person

okay, and? Most homeless bums would tear up a suburban house given to them by the government in a week's time. Look on jewtube for examples of what section 8 lowlifes do to rental properties. Not to mention any house they destroy will depreciate all houses around it

At the very most, the homeless should receive surplus military tents

>>129493409
>>129504799
Leftist memes usually just try to reinforce how much smarter they are then everyone else whereas right winger memes tend to mock itself almost as much as the people they don't like.

>>129481595
Fine
>most of those homes are unliveble and likely have fire or insect damage. Not every house can be lived in. In addition, people owning multiple homes happens in most countries where people are not dirt poor.

Millionaires in congress.... it's almost as if we send people with the ability to get shit done to Congress and that skill goes well into business

Poverty. The america. Poverty line is higher than the rest of the world's to be poor here means you don't have cable. Even the poorest American is better off than the richest Sub-Saharan

Wages stagnate because of a myriad of factors, would you prefer inflation?

We publish honest numbers, do you think China, Russia, North korea, India and other countries publish honest numbers? It's also not racist at all, inner cities are where more blacks and Latinos live, whites tend to live suburban or rural. Cities always have more crime or at least crime that is easier to detect. It isn't race it is where people live

You believe socialist countries don't have militaries???? We pay for many other countries militaries that's how we keep relative global peace

(((You)))

>>129511549

How about the American poor compared to Western Europe's poor? Or even Canada's poor

>>129481595
If you divided a CEO's salary/earnings between all his workers, it would barely make a dent. With the exception being information age businesses with very few employees.

>>129505052
>t.cityslicker
Part owner of family ranch. Large family.
>homesteader
Bitch, go outside, beyond the city limits and it can be as low as $2.7k per acre.

>>129481595
Don't criticize capitalism on this board. You are dealing with an audience raised exclusively by white collar fathers.

>>129512276
Please provide mathematical evidence.

If a CEO makes 50,000,000 a year, and "hardly make a dent" means adding <$500/yr to each employee's salary, that means the company would have to have 100,000 employees. Is that true? Do all CEOs who make that much have 100,000 employees? What about the other overpaid members of the corporation? How much to their salaries total?

>>129501414
Bitterness is its own prison my friend

>>129512679
how many acres do i need if im just gonna have a bunch of goats and live on goat milk and nothing else

>>129489968
no, they're mixed economies

>>129481595
Do you prefer the boot lickers to turn in boots and start stomping everything in their way for their own gain?.

You basically want anarchy?

>>129494239
It does dumbo. Example of real life;
>18
>given $73k that my parents and both grandparents have saved for me since I was born
>get minimum wage job doing unloading trailers
>20
>$13 per hour doing forklift
>22
>$54k starting for 8 months a year doing long haul trucking
>31 (now)
>$72k in 6 months of trucking a year
>$23k part owner of liquor store
>$35k in growing *ganja* (14 plants a year only) to sell *under* the table at a reduce price to more establish, bigger growers
Not to mention I've never paid rent (still live in my family's compound), have a diverse portfolio since the last 7 years, a direct shareholder in various companies, 5 figures invested in crypto coins, and 6 figures in savings that's growing.

>DECADES OF PROOF THAT IT DOESN'T.
If you're a dumbo, not humble enough to be in sub-standard living for a few years, not frugal, accumulating debt like flies on shit, no sense of foresight and lack any discipline in delayed gratification.


Wew lad.


But family absolutely matters.

>>129481595
>more spending on military than healthcare
What a joke. Discretionary spending is not US spending. We spend almost double on healthcare than we do on military

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>>129492795
It doesn't matter who owns the homes. There was no mention of giving them to niggers.
The point is while we live in a land of plenty while many people suffer.

Besides this most of the western world is in a housing crisis and all those empty dwellings exacerbate the problem.

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fuck kikes, fuck niggers, fuck niggers, fuck niggers, fuck muslims. in that order

>>129515574
wtf why does trucking pay so much

>>129514754
8 acres for 8 goats. Grazing is important. Also study middle eastern & north african goat herding to see how they get the optimal results. Muh family raises a few horses and rents out garages for boat storage.

>>129516123
>capitalism produces giant glut of resources
>commies say this is a problem with capitalism

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>>129507667

It is all about the family unit, anons.

>>129507667
>>129507667

God, I hate Canada.

>>129481595
Since when does Zionism = Capitalism exactly? There is a reason Hitler tried to eradicate the Juden.

>>129516123
>>129481595
>empty homes exacerbate the problem
>making no mention of all the Changs from Chinaland fucking up your market
What's up, Chang Liu?

>>129492832
>mixed system is best
He says in a mixed economy barely clinging to a pathetic 1.2% gdp growth and calling it "progress"

>>129487141
What is successful? Your imaginary utopia where everyone's happy and there are no problems? Fuck off retard.

>>129516123
In communism, your income is tax heavily. Any food that you obtain through hunting, fishing, farming has to be shared. You never get to reap the rewards of your own efforts. There's absolutely zero point in working harder under communism. You're forever a slave.

>>129516918
Depends what type of hauling, distance and different endorsements. The first two years is a probation period (well, for me).
>note, my pay increase is not too drastic, but I stick it through the same company and have trust & preference from them.
>inb4 "you know your job is going to be automated in 10 years"
Maybe in 25 years, no sooner.
PSA, there is ALWAYS a need for drivers. Rookies might need a few years doing OTR across state lines before getting a local route so you can go home the same night.
>I got a felony
>I got a D.U.I.
>muh driving record is bad
Sorry lad

>>129489805
It is very close to real capitalism, but I can guarantee it wouldn't be nearly as bad if the government was unable to reinforce monopolies or make socialist policies to keep the poor in their current state to rake in votes.

>>129487477
supply and demand, free market encourages innovation in manufacturing, production and advertisement (media).
While capitalism didn't "invent technology" it does stimulate it.

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>>129487477
Capitalism created the competition between the different firms that produce technology, driving it forward. Without competition there's no incentive to innovate and beat out your competitor for your share of the market. No fucking point in trying to innovate if the government is just gonna give the shit you made away to every sputtercunt that thinks they deserve one.
Tell me, how will any form of socialism stop this inevitability?
Seems to me like every time they try things turn to Shit?
>but it wasn't real socialism
Kys leaf. The world average iq might jump up a few points.

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>>129517963

he says from his American mixed system, the most successful one in the world.

> Have welfare state
> still have homeless people
> blame capitalism
> think vacant houses in transition = being permanently kept unoccupied for nefarious reasons
> being entitled to other peoples property

You're not a decent bloke aye, actually a pretty shit fuckin bloke.. a bit of a shitcunt I reckon.

>>129489805
the only free market is the black market

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>>129489635
It seems people seem to forget there are Two budgets, Mandatory and Discretionary spending and how much the social spending eclipses all other expenditures.

>>129519604
>No fucking point in trying to innovate if the government is just gonna give the shit you made away to every sputtercunt that thinks they deserve one.
You mean like they're giving away smartphones?

>>129481595

Not one argument.

>>129491327
National minimum wage is 7.25$ an hour, 40 hour work week. That's 41.42$ a day if you count the two days off.

>>129493887
I don't know how anyone could exagerate the benefits of an idea that has never been promoted or tired? Misrepresented? Yeah I'd agree with that.

>>129520136
This is exactly how I imagine aussies talk

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>>129504735
>Keynesians
There are zero Keynesians on this board. Most here are Austrians.

>>129481595
>Hey boot lickers, can you guys explain this please?
Which part, faggot? The part where you don't understand the niggers commit way more crime than whites do, or the part where you're too fucking stupid to understand the difference between capitalism and democracy?

HA, in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, millionaires don't make up .0001% of their country, yet every single higher up in the government is a millionaire. My wife is Vietnamese, she has family from the north, all of them in government have 5 huge houses. Lol, Congress has so many millionaires today because the US is more socialist than not, government spending makes up half our GDP and business taxes add up to 50%+.

>>129485793
>. in germany people care
> here i can fuck children in my cellar all day long and no one bats an eye

>>129489805
Not with Jews in control, no.

Oh, and I was an auditor at a CPA firm that specialized in governmental entities. All those fuckers stole money, but the niggers were the only ones that we reported to the FBI because they weren't smart enough to cover their blatant kick back schemes. Too obviously, too greedy with their theft, instead of a little at a time, spread out, like the whites running government would steal.

50 million Americans are on food stamps so the Waltons can laugh at more zeroes on their accounts.

Capitalism is Jewish

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>>129481595
>Last Graph
>Militarism accounts for what seems to be >90% of all spend
>wiki US Spending
>military spending is 10 - 15%, with medicare + Medicaid being over 50%

Niggah are you even trying?

>>129494097
>Our economy could not continue to exist, let alone grow, on a materially backed currency because resources are finite.

Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever seen posted online.

So, congrats if that was what you were going for.

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>>129483030
>Kansian
It's fucking Keynesian you inbred autist

>>129500700
>cream rises to the top
ebin meme XDD

>>129504073
wat

>>129521228
The difference is that the government doesn't seize them, they buy them from the corporations using the taxpayer's money. So the manufacturer still makes a profit.
If the government ste- ahem, expropriates the manufacturing plant the companies will just GTFO and let them fail.

>>129494541
It's ridiculous how ignorant and unobservant people like you are. The government doesn't manage the majority of those services effectively. A lot money is used inefficiently because there's 0 accountability. Roads? My local gov't does a shitty job in maintaining them. Perfectly good roads get "repaired" while the tons of pot holes out there are ignored. A job that takes two people is done by a group of ten people with most of them standing around.

>>129505495
You must be blind or willfully ignorant.

>>129495025
That's a stupid argument and you didn't even list an example. You could say the same for Liberia. They could eat monkeys there but a US citizen can't.

>>129524692
Why are you people so obsessed with seizing stuff?

>>129518067
>hurrr people only work hard if they don't have to share

>>129489805
>people actually arguing against this post with 'b-b-but government!'

Literally the only thing that would change without the government is that you'd have McDonalds Riot Response McBoots on your neck instead of police boots.

>>129522405
Economic freedom is a fucking meme-tier definition of capitalism.

>>129524903
Because that's what every socialist government does? Either make taxes sky-high or directly expropriate factories.

>>129524699
This morning, I was awoken by my alarm clock which is powered by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. I took a shower in the clean, safe water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the channels regulated by the Federal Communications Commission, to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration had determined the weather was likely to be, using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast, consisting of food inspected by the US Department of Agriculture and taking medicine determined to be safe by the Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurately by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I got into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work, driving on roads built and maintained by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, stopping on my way to purchase additional fuel of a composition and quality level determined and inspected by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing and the US Mint and regulated by the Federal Reserve System. I also stopped to deposit my mail to be delivered via the US Postal System, before I dropped my kids off at the public school, operated by my local government under guidance from the US Department of Education.

>>129499779
The wider context is basically stealing from someone else to give it to another person. It's not about one person helping another. It's one person forcing other people to help others without doing anything himself. That's what every communist gov't did. That's the ideology of the Left.

>>129524884
Eating monkeys doesn't necessarily make you better off. Having a house or healthcare does, even if most Cubans live in small apartments and don't get expensive cosmetic procedures.

>>129525168
After work, I drove my NHTSA-approved car back home on the DOT roads, to a house which had not burned down in my absence thanks to state and local building codes and the fire marshal’s inspection, and which had not been plundered of its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then logged onto the Internet, which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency of the US Department of Defense, and posted about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government CAN’T DO ANYTHING RIGHT.

>>129525168
Stale copy pasta is stale.

>>129525284
It's the ideology of basically any system with government. The other options are memes like anarcho-capitalism.

>>129525066
>directly expropriate factories
Ownership is nothing more than the social agreement to recognize some entity's exclusive rights to some property. Like all social agreements, it is mutable and contingent.

>>129481595
Too many shitskins. Just wait, eventually 75% of cuckada will be in poverty.

>>129493409

Because they shove ham-fisted moral messages in with inoffensive, hackneyed Reddit-tier humor, and call it 'Punching Up'.

>>129525729
mooses aren't shitskins even if they're brown, idiot

>>129481595
Just curious, OP, why do commies call us boot lickers when your ideaology requires strict government influence to mandate and distribute funds?

You're not boot lickers, you're giving boots the succ at this point.

>>129481942
This

>>129525295
"Free" healthcare comes still from taxes. Paying for police and firefighting services is one thing, but I don't want to be forced to pay for other people's poor lifestyle choices.

>>129486478
Yeah, when everyone's money gets devalued, everyone ends up poor. Inequality solved.

>>129481595
Counts rental properties.

Cronyism.

See next one.

Wages suck because supply and demand.
Too many workers driving wages down because (((they))) can't stop immigrating people.

Blacks commit more crimes and suck at not getting caught.

Meme of military spending is just bombs and bullets.

>>129525168
>I dropped my kids off at the public school, operated by my local government under guidance from the US Department of Education.
It's amazing how you leftist faggots can talk about how shitty the US education system has become, and spout about how great it is that we socialized it, all in the same breath.

Post office is bankrupt due to horrific inefficiency. Roads are breaking down. Dollar is tanking. EPA is stifling industry and turning us into a third world country. Ask the people in Flint about their government-controlled water, bitch.

All told, it sounds to me like you'd be far happier in Venezuela, you shit-eating faggot. Except we both know you don't want to go there because socialism has completely destroyed that nation.

>>129526171
>paying for people's poor lifestyle choices
>implying health problems all stem from bad lifestyle choices
Funny how older people are generally more in favor of socialized healthcare eh?
>>129527182
I never said that the government is perfect. It has its flaws, as does the private sector. We're certainly much better off than we would be without any state though.
>move to Venezuela
Only when people like you move to Somalia.

>>129525900
Canada takes in 300k immigrants per year. 4 out of 5 are non white. That will turn the country 3rd world much faster than wetbacks are turning the US 3rd world.

Fucking idiot. Empty houses belong to people, should we just take them away? That's stealing.
Percentage of millionaires higher in congress. Well that's the fucling point, you dense fuck. Capitalism is about the free market and people getting rich because they deserve it, not because they stole from the public purse.
A "near poor" in the US is what people in the third wprld see as upper middle class. People will be poor, the idea is that beong poor now doesn't mean what it meant 100 years ago.
Workers produce more but wages are stagnant, yes, but purchasing power is higher than ever before. Wealth is not nominal.
Yeah, the prision system run partly by government with government laws that put innocents into jail. And no, it's not fucking racist.
Yrs, the US should spend less in it's socialist military programs. Capitalism is about restraining the government.
Retard.

>>129481595

>spending 700 billion of military

Based burgers. Robocop and mech suits when?