Is he (((their))) guy?

>>129460186
>I am a foreign citizen
In other words, you have zero business getting involved into local politics.

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>>129460399
But I do!

I can make (a difference) an independent country change it's foreign policy course. Isn't that what we all are trying to do?

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Come on, russkies
I know that you lurk on this board

What do you really think of him?

>>129462057
They aren't allowed to express their thoughts openly.

>>129462057
Russia is a lost cause. This retard was praising Nelson Mandela, wanted to make minimum wage 25000 rubles and other retarded shit. Both him and Putin should be gassed.

t. Russian that left forsaken russian shithole

>>129461195
Don't actually go, they'll use you as proof that he has foreign sponsors.

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>>129462593
But they are.

Unless Russkies at my uni (Higher School of economics) are somehow really different from all the other russians, I don't think they are any shy in proclaiming their political beliefs.

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>>129460186
natsoc is the cure

>>129462982
Of course they're different m8. Jesus fuck, you're clueless.

>>129460186
literally who

>>129463077
I didn't mean to say they are no different at all.
I meant to say that they should be different when it comes to being able to express ur ideas on 4chan.

It's not like they are all being watched by the FSB or something.

>>129463181
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Navalny
Dis guy

>>129462057
On one hand, changing the guy on the throne would be great. On the other, Analny is a protectionist faggot who wants to raise minimal wage up to the current national average and do some other equally retarded stuff. Meh.

>>129460186
>Propagandist with bait

>>129462982
> Higher School of economics
Literally Russian UC Berkeley.

>>129463577
У них хoтя бы диплoм нaпoлoвинy c LSE. Пycть и Бepкли, нo yнивep-тo хopoший.

>>129463577
You do know they just recently toppled their 'student ombudsman because he called some protestors on some rally 'faggots', do you?

http://thevyshka.ru/2017/05/16/ombudsmen_miting/

>>129463655
Hy дa. Ho кoнтингeнт cтyдeнтoв — пиздeц ёбaный. Oднa Hихeльпихeль чeгo cтoит.

>>129463747
>Hихeльпихeль

Literally WHO?

>>129462816
this desu

>>129463822
Russian Zoe Quinn.

>>129463879
never heard of her

Can u link her? google produces zero result for me

>>129463951
youtube user/NixelPixel
vk.com *slash* nixelpixel_public

>>129463822
A feminist from HSE. Draws comics about farting and her periods. You can find her in vkontakte by typing "nixelpixel" in the search field.

cia plant

>>129464035
>youtube user/NixelPixel
Yeah, I already found her.

I can't see anything linking her to the HSE though

>>129460186
while i can appreciate the work he and his fund has done so far, i don't trust this fuck one bit. even if he's genuine and somehow gets to power kikes will subvert him like they did with trump

>>129464159
She's HSE graduate. HSE if I'm not mistaken doesn't have womyn studies department, but Humanities are already contaminated with SJW shit. I hope you are doing hard science there.

Yeah, he is one of you. A Yale graduate with ties to Khorkovsky and Soros who doesn't consider Crimea part of Russia.

>>129464236
I think he's running for publicity. No chance of winning. However, establishing local HQs is a very good strategy, props to him.

>>129460399
fpbp
Hope you get exposed

>>129464256
>I hope you are doing hard science there.

Not really.

I haven't met a single SJW here tho

>>129464334
But he does! Doesn't he?

As far as I understand he has some strong ties to russian nationalists/nazies. It would be hard to align with those people and try to reject the Crimean referenda at the same time, no?

>>129460186
it's not your country so fuck off and stay home. leave russian politics to the russians you mong.

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who cares?

move country you fucking idiots

>>129463350
shouldn't*

>>129464883
>move country you fucking idiots
Literally WHAT?

>>129464798
>I haven't met a single SJW here tho
Lucky you. There is one professor on Philosophy department called Kirill Martynov, he's super SJW.

I don't know who he is, but he looks like every bad guy in the movies so yes.

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>>129460186
He is (((our guy))) and he will be a president sooner or later, but there is no point in going to the event tomorrow.

Russia is a country of coupes and in-power conspiracies. Putin will be betrayed by his own men, like everyone before him. Then, this guy will be put in power.

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>>129464983
soon we'll have a commie in charge so you'll love it here

plus you wont have to lick putins arse

>>129465191
Hello, rare flag.

>>129465272
>coupes
coups, I mean

>>129460186

Like Yeltsin; another USAID shill.

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>>129465272
So you say he is going to be the president, but at the same time you'd advice me not to go to his rallies

Are u seriously trying to tell me that I shouldn't witness the history of a foreign country being made?

>>129460186
Americans would never elect somebody who got full scholarship from MSU and was taught together with people who then started revolutions in countries around the world.
Don't like the current regime, but i prefer some corruption and full sovereignty over globalist shill.

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>>129465766
You are not the sharpest tool in the shed, I take it?

I am literally telling you that the history of Russia is never made in the street. Study history of Russia. No matter what will happen tomorrow (most likely nothing), this will in no way affect neither Putin nor (((Haвaльный))).

You just sit and wait as, when the time is right, Putin is sent off to Dacha by his own circle and this guy installed into power.

Literally, in the last 100 years, only Yeltzin voluntarily left the power. And only Nikolai II was somewhat dislodged by mass (armed) protests.

Everyone else was betrayed by their own. You sit and wait.

On a side note, you are in the wrong, if you assume that they will not jail a foreigner. They did and they will do if you are in the way.

>>129466287
Except Russia has no sovereignty at this moment. All its money and funds are piled in the EU and USA. It is completely dependent on the trade with the West.

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He's better than zloi manlet. Go to the rally.

>>129466368
February revolution was mostly connected to influential rich people. October revolution was more "made in the street", though. And it resulted in Russia going FUBAR.

>>129460186
Are you retarded? You will be accused of espionage. Stay home.

>>129466754
>February revolution was mostly connected to influential rich people.
Not so much so. The street movement was armed, and the factories strike movement was very powerful. He didn't have a choice really.

> "made in the street"
Yes, but the street was armed to the teeth. This is very different from the current situation, where people have no influence on those on power whatsoever. Nothing will happen tomorrow except a couple of hundred of arrests.

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>>129466368
I don't say the history will be made on the streets of Moscow.

What I do say, is that tommorow's rally might be the one that will get him into the international spotligh, which, in turn, will be the one that just might get into the history books.
And I do want to be able to tell my children how I participated in that rally back in 2017

On a side note, I just got a tip from one of my classmates to switch youtube's region to Russia and visit Youtube's trending page. It's literally full of stuff that is about tomorrow's rally

Just look at this shit, trending at the second place on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpf9SALw17o

I literally had no idea whether it will b a pro-putin or pro-navalny vid, untill the last seconds of this vid when they showed that phrase about being able to change something.

Isn't that something?

>>129467055
> This is very different from the current situation, where people have no influence on those on power whatsoever.
Well, Euromaidan wasn't armed to the teeth either. However, it succeeded because the """legitimate president""" did not stomp them while it was just a small protest. It's kind of hard to suppress a whole square of angry people. Putin, on the other hand, would not wait until an angry mob would start ramming Kremlin gates.

>>129466745
Navalny also has some nasty welfare policies in plan like raising minimal wage up to 25k roubles or subsidizing mortgages. But yeah, he's still better.

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>>129467382
>international spotligh
He is already in the international spotlight. His every move is covered by (at least) European media to the detail not even remotely close to how he is covered in Russia.
>And I do want to be able to tell my children how I participated in that rally back in 2017
All the important stuff already happened in 2011, which started the process of Putin slowly turning against the rest of the world, becoming more paranoid and scrupulous. Which, in turn, alienated most of the oligarchs against him. Which, in turn, when push comes to shove, will remove him from the position of power.

Also, you don't take Russian character into account. It is summer. Most of the people that won't be working, will be on their dachas out of the cities. Hence, my prognosis about nothing happening.

>>129467429
>However, it succeeded because the """legitimate president""" did not stomp them while it was just a small protest.

Yes, and that is the only reason why it succeeded. Had Yanukovich have the balls to crush the protest, he very easily could have. May I assure you that Putin does have the balls to do that.

>>129462982
How did you get into HSE, planning on going there in 3years or so

>>129467800
> that won't be working
Well, that's a holiday after all. And it comes right after Sunday this year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_Day

> will be on their dachas out of the cities
There, or in Turkey/Egypt.

>>129467992
> May I assure you that Putin does have the balls to do that.
Seen it countless times.

>>129467998
I got thru my university programme, but you might get better luck studying this page:

https://www.hse.ru/admissions/exchange-apply

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>>129468277
>that's a holiday
No revolution tomorrow, then, I guess. Most people were hanging in their summer houses when the Soviet Union collapsed. Sure they will do the same as the youth left for summer in the city parades into police wagons tomorrow.

(This won't save Putin in power in the long run, though)

>>129460186
He wants to legalize le weed, but i think that he is probably funded by someone from the west.

>>129468284
Thx

>>129467565
25k roubles is what like 100€? why is that a bad thing?
>inb4 i need to prove my cred as an ultra-capitalist and oppose any sensible socially democratic policy that has been known to produce comfy countries

Don't be like Germany
Don't swing between 2 retarded extremes

>>129466537
>hurr durr if you trade you have no sovereignty
>t. retard

>>129469106
>sensible socially democratic policy
oxymoron

>>129469186
When you are locked into having to trade ever increasing amount of supply to a small set of customers for an ever decreasing price, I would say yes, you have no sovereignty.

>>129468578
>>129467800

I heard about it.

The only problem is that, as far as I understand, his previous rally in the late march (the famous one) wasn't exactly full of dacha-visiting people in their 50-s.
It was mainly populated by youngsters (schoolkids, students and the like). And I don't think these people go to dachas.

Besides, unlike 1991, now we have the internet. And judging ONLY by youtube's trending channel (there are actual Russian rappers rapping about changing Russia's politics, and they are on youtube's trending page) and by russian imageboard 2ch's /pol/'s first page I do seem to think that this rally is quote trending among the crowd

Oкaтыши, нaхyй c /pol/.
Здecь любят и чтят Пyтинa, бeлoгaндoнныe хyecocы.

>>129469106
Russian median income is about 30k roubles/month. Even lesser outside Moscow, SPb and other large cities. Raising the bar to almost this sum would devastate both small businesses and low income people. Former would bankrupt and later would be fired. Yay, sensible socially democratic policy. The said comfy countries you are speaking about(Nordic countries, I suppose) were rather successful PRIOR to installing social democracy as their main political force. And they are in economic decline nowadays.

>>129468578
It was collapsed mostly due to the military being on Yeltsin's side. Can't argue with tanks.

>>129469106
It's like 300 and it's bad because all the old reasons why high minimum wage is bad.
Less jobs, harder to find one for the inexperienced, etc, etc.

>>129469624
+15, тoвapищ мaйop.

Bceх митингyющих либepacтoв зaвтpa oтпиздит OMOH.

>>129469860
+10000€

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>>129469597
>now we have the internet.
No you don't. VK (Russia's main source of information) is completely control by the police.

>trending among the crowd
Means nothing unless the crowd has guns and balls to make a coup. Schoolkids, as you have correctly identified the target group of these protests, has neither.

The only possible positive reason to go to these, which I can think of, is that if the oligarchs, the secret service, the army, the Pocгвapдия decide to overthrow Putin, they can use the violent attacks against the protesting youngsters as an excuse.

But do you really want to put your body on the altar of Russian power games?

>>129469943
Чтo, и мeня oтпиздит?

Would love to get beaten by the omonovtsy.

That's a story I'd be telling my children

>>129469409
And i would say you're a retard since it has nothing to do with political sovereignty. We wouldn't take Crimea, we wouldn't finance nationalist in EU, we wouldn't save Assad and we sure as hell wouldn't hack DMC if we weren't sovereign. Name one other country on earth that spits into globalists half as much as we do and then you will maybe have a starting point in your moronic argument.

>>129470089
A ты выйди c ЛГБT флaгoм или зa чтo ты тaм тoпишь и тeбя нe тoлькo OMOH oтпиздит, гoвнo.

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>>129469943
> oтпиздит
Глaвнaя pyccкaя цeннocть пoмимo хyёв и aнycoв.

>>129470193
Этo зaбaвнo, тaк кaк нa гeй-пapaдaх OMOH зaщищaeт пapaдиpyющих oт гoпoты.

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>>129470193
Yeah, fuck you too.

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>>129460399
Former state department employee here. Listen to this guy.

>>129470150
The soviets also thought that they had sovereignty. But no tanks or nukes mattered when the state ran out of money. Let's wait 10-20 years and see what happens to Crimea, Assad, and all the other nonsense you consider tokens of sovereignty.

>>129470378
Tы кyкoлд.

>>129470518
>muh soviets
>lets wait 100 years and see
Not an argument. You're a retard.

>>129460186
>soros-funded shill
literally what

>>129470709
>being this cucked by Putin
>this defensive
Whatever makes you sleep at night.

>>129470873
I didn't mention Putin once, you shill. But you obviously run out of talking points.

>>129460186
I hope they kick your teeth in for fucking with their politics.

>>129462816
How did you manage to do that?

>>129469624
Kickbacks, get the fuck out from /pol/.
Putin is loved and praised in here, white-condom dick suckers.

>>129460186
Literally one of (((them))) sent to incite revolution in Russia since thats the only way he could get to power. Then he will lose power in a matter of moths leaving the country in turmoil.

>>129471870
I am the most hyped guy in here, but I don't understand how u imagine him inciting a revolution.

Do u actually imagine him leading schoolkids to storm the Kremlin?

Ждy зaвтpa шoy, пидopaхи paзвлeкaйтe мeня.

хpюкни

>>129470193
>>129470299
Pidorashkas, speak english there.

>>129472111
>Do u actually imagine him leading schoolkids to storm the Kremlin?
Thats pretty much the plan

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>>129466537
That's a stupid line of thinking. EU needs us as much as we need them. Russia has been a reliable partner, especially when it comes to gas. Nobody is capable of substituting Russia in the energy market at the moment.
Besides, all that oligarch money is entangled into countless legit Western enterprises, no way you could freeze them without damaging those.

>>129472201
мeйк ми ю кaкcaкepъ

>>129472227
US produces more gas than Russia. Iran also has a comparable amount.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_natural_gas_production

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GLORY TO NAVALNY!!!

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>>129470766
Why do you keep saying he's funded, there's no single proof, only gigantic amount of TV's propaganda, why you don't skeptical about it, are you even live in Russia?

>>129472600
How's it going to get there, genius? Liquefied gas is expensive and requires appropriate infrastructure. It would probably take decades for EU to be at the level needed to satisfy its needs with LNG.

>>129473064
Funded or not he's a useful idiot.
Also I dont believe for a second he's funded the way he claims he is

>>129472202
>
Yeah, I'd love to imagine something like that happening tomorrow (talk about history being made). Except for, as far as I understand, the russians are to redpilled on the whole MAIDAN thing. So much so that I don't believe people would actually follow him to do anything violent.

Making the largest crowd since 1991? Sure, I can imagine that. But actually proceeding with a revolution? Not going to happen.

Putin wasn't actually an idiot when he started his whole Crimean/ukrainian affair. One thing he got out of it is making his population literally immune to any revolutionary bullshit.

Well, to any revolutionary bullshit taking place in Russia proper (I actually Crimea can hurt him in the long run solely by sterring nationalist sentiment acroos Russia)

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>>129472952

>>129473064
This. He's under constant state supervision since he's the biggest troublemaker in Russia. If there was at least a hint of being funded, they would gladly start screaming about it as if they were teenage girls on Justin Bieber's concert.

>>129473301
>simeone actually thinks that man could run a country
Kek

>>129473255
What's the difference between "usefull idiot" and regular democratic politic?
You don't believe people donate money for him or what?

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>>129473796
> every image on the Internet is real and not photoshopped
Here's the actual one.

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>>129473796
I do realize that (((they))) (welp, actualy EVERYONE) was telling us the same about this dude?

Just imagine if Russkies meme their own Trump into the presidency.

And then imagine a chapter in a history book from XXII century about the first quarter of the XXI century!

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>>129474136
a usefull idiot.

Also, a democratic politician

Nvalny seems pretty based, if you dig into his past he was(or still is) even more nationalistic than putin, he is algo in favor of firearms in citizens hands. He is agains all that corruption and nepotism inherited from the communists, in some regions there are people still in power after 40 years!
Too bad Putin will never let him run for president, he will come up with some bullshit to ban him.

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Get the fuck off my board you fucking libshit traitors.

>>129474136
>What's the difference between "usefull idiot" and regular democratic politic?
A useful idiot would lead to collapse of Russia because he has never had experience governing or managing anything, let alone in politics. If you think a man like him could keep a country like Russia together you're either 12 or shitposting.
>>129474206
My point still stands desu
>>129474352
Except he's nothing like Trump. Trump is a billionaire that built a business. What has Navalny ever done?
Also you cant compare the US political system that has checks and balances (and relative autonomy and stability) to the Russian counterpart.

>>129475017
> that built a business
Inherited, you wanted to say. Large businesses are much more stable than small ones, and a buttload of his own businesses started failed miserably. Trump's more like a media person than a businessman.

> What has Navalny ever done?
He's got a rather long history of finding out ties between different corrupted politicians and oligarchs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Corruption_Foundation

>>129474858
When Navalny critizied capitalism you dumb shit vatnik? If even, he is in favor of free market and agains Putin's commie tier protectionism.

>>129474352
But coprorate media loves Analny. He's on the front page of CNN right now. No doubt the whole purpose of tomorrow rally is to assure America can give as good as it gets by stirring public unrest in Russia.

>>129475718
>But coprorate media loves Analny. He's on the front page of CNN right now.
Because he is the only serious oponent to Putin.
They don't care about who is or if he is pro or against the west, as long as he is against Putin they will broadcast him.

>>129475017
Putin can't cope with Navalnyi even though he has 17 years of experience and whole government on his side. That's strange to say that Putin has better ability to manage things.

>>129460186
>can I be imprisoned if I am a foreign citizen?
Yes.
> he opposes his corruption
Navalny fould be guilty in two separate cases of corruption already, abusing the very little power he had as chief advisor of Kirovsk Oblast.
He's not "opposing corruption", he's just useful tool in faction wars between different corruptioneers.
>he is also against the West
Bullshit. When his email was hacked and dumped, it exposed that Navalny had some very close contacts in US embassy.
Before that, he received funding from some US ((democracy funds)).
>he seems to be ready to continue his foreign policy
Navalny's foreign policy is "unconditional surrender to the west".

>>129475492
Trump took it from a million dollar business and made it into a billion dollar one. He's infinitely more sucessfuk and actually has experience governing something at least. Navalny doesnt.
>>129476164
>cant cope
Last tine I checked he's coping just fine.
Also you're comparing apples and oranges. It's one thing to get to power, it's another to stay there. Nobody will support Navalny. Noone in parliament, noone in the military and noone in the FSB. He will have no control over the country whatsoever.

>>129476662
>Last tine I checked he's coping just fine.
Oh, ok.

>>129475944
>Because he is the only serious oponent to Putin.
Hahah. The retard does not regard Crimea a part of Russia. He has no political future in this country, not even after Putin is no longer in power. The limit of his influence is throwing Moscow numale hipsters on police batoons to showcase foreign sponsors the semblance of political discontent in Russia.

>>129477117
I read that he don't want to return Crimea, he just want to hold another referendum.
>The limit of his influence is throwing Moscow numale hipsters
Uhm the last protests were in many cities across Russia, not only in Moscow. If there is a more important Putin oposition than Navalny please tell me who is?

>>129477579
> protests were in many cities across Russia
100 local hipsters coming to city square to shout some shit for a hour. Very scary, huh.

> If there is a more important Putin oposition than Navalny please tell me who is?
Right now Putin doesn't have any real opposition. But if we would speak about threats, biggest one is "Family", oligarchs who put Putin in power and who still control most of Russia's assets. If they decide that Putin became liability, he will be out of power fast.

>>129460186
Both Putin and he are their puppets, but he at least inst a kgb officer.

>>129463577
> literally the only russian uni without oбязятeльнoй физpы

>>129462982
>(((HSE)))
We've got a real education here - physics, math, engineering. And yet you choose the only fake one.

>>129479523
HSE has some decent Data Science cources.

>>129460186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn__bgeEaSA&t
This guy get rekt by Sobchak. Only fags and retards suport him.

do it nigger, see you tomorrow

>>129479583
Not as good as MIPT.

>>129480014
Is has some? I thought there are only physics and biology there.

>>129477579
>he just want to hold another referendum.
Sure, the one that would be approved by the West. Because consensus of unelected Brussels bureaucracy is clearly more important to Analny than legal plebiscite of Russian people. I find it rather hard to explain the value of Crimea to a cuckold with Gibraltar sized cock up his moorish arse.
>Uhm the last protests were in many cities across Russia, not only in Moscow
Talk to me again when his national support outside of Moscow exceeds the margin of statistical error.

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>>129460186
Soros/USA-paid traitor cucklord who wants to surrender Syria to USrael.

>>129460186
I'm not sure about him. In one hand he's against the corruption that is the actual problem in russia and he also hates shitskins ( as far as i know ) and it's great for a local policy but I don't know what he's thoughts on foreign policy.
I like foreign Putin policy because he still doesn't sell us to the US and EU like Ukraine did to its country and he keep growing russia power and influence on the world and trying to make other people respect us unlike others Presidents who sold half of the country to US and make the take over us. We need a leader who can resist the pressure from the west because US politics always been against Russia.

>>129477579
>he just want to hold another referendum.
He's been super evasive on that issue, just like on most others concerning foreign politics. He's been asked repeatedly that it's clear Ukraine and the West would never agree to recognize the results of such a referendum, so what then? Do we keep Crimea or do we return it back, pay reparations, and repent for innumerable crimes of the Putinist regime? And every time he evades the answer and instead of saying directly: yes, in that case we're keeping Crimea and fuck them all or alright, in that case we should give it back, he keeps talking about this new referendum and how he will make it happen and recognized by everyone.

Btw, some ten years ago when he was a mere political activist, he expressed his views much more openly and radically in his blog. For example, he openly supported Putin in the 2008 conflict with Georgia, even though it's considered very bad manners in the Russian opposition circle to support Putin on any issue, no matter how correct it may be. And now he's turned into a huge populist, giving answers as vague as possible trying to appeal both his core liberal electorate who, if Putin accidentally says that 2×2 = 4, start saying 2×2 = 17 and saying that 2×2 = 4 is actually a violation of human rights and, well as normies dissatisfied with rampant corruption but generally agreeing with the foreign politics of Putin.

>>129480827
> the value of Crimea
And what is it? It's beaches are almost empty now, no tourism income. It requires a whole lot of money to get water and electricity there. Military bases were there even before the "referendum" with 97% pro votes, sudden appearance of armed people in fresh new military uniform and becoming a part of Russia in 2 days after it happened. A valueable lawfully aquired asset indeed.

>>129478609
more like 50 000, pseudopatriotic pidor

>>129481691
> a кpым-тo дoтaциoнный хpяяя

нy пaлишьcя жe пятaчoк

>>129480392
Yes they do, its called 'Big Data Analysis'.

Stay home tomorrow, our politics is not of your business faggot. Also glad to have you here, enjoy your stay.

>>129482566
I'm not the OP. Compare our IDs.

>>129482527
So it isn't a burden to our economy? Then tell me, please, how does it contribu...
> Argumentum ad hominem
On the other hand, fuck you.

>>129481161
>keep growing russia power and influence on the world and trying to make other people respect us
But it's simple not truth, specialists, best people emigrate hard. No economy, no science, no future, what kind of respect is it?

>>129462057
Why won't you ask someone in your uni or whatever, you larping faggot?

>>129482948
You're right. Though you also sound like a giant faggot from 2ch promoting Navalny rally day before event.

>>129460186
For (You) - >>129482566

>>129481691
>Crimea is living on donations RYAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>129482948
>On the other hand, fuck you.
>RYAAAAA HOMINEM AND I SHOULD'NT TO TALK WITH YOU THEN!
You're forgotten to say that he is Olkya, faggot.

That Ukrainians. Forever. Fucking. Shitpost.

I have noticed the huge increase in putinbots in the last month or too, did olgino open new branch for english speaking boards?

>>129460186
If you are only there half a year don't bother getting involved with the local politics. It isn't your country you riot tourist.