If Europe is to become pagan again then why do we have to go

>>129460182
Are you stupid? It's about faith in the old gods, not LARP on some fieldtrip.

Modernity and comfort made us weak and servile. It allowed unfitting people to survive that should have died.

We need to cast away useless technologies.

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>>129460388
Well all i ever hear from pagans is whining about everything that is not pagan

>>129460656
>>129460182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jntc2n6P3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNb-hl2VY_I

>>129460182
>>129460656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AYgXQzRvas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yphDnLgP4VY

>>129460656
Stonehenge is celtic not nordic

>>129460881
>>129461142
varg is a parody of himself at this point.

>>129460881
>Varg
He has irrational hatred for Christianity, if his pagan ancestors would have created civilization then he would embrace it

>>129461250
>>129461285
Refute the arguments instead of attacking the man.

This book contains all the knowledge you need about European paganism:
https://www.amazon.com/Sorcery-Religion-Ancient-Scandinavia-Vikernes/dp/0956695930/

>>129460656
In Scandinavia yes.

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>>129460182
>LARPing

I really don't see much of a difference between that cunt and these cunts.

>>129461382
The refutation is that advanced art and architecture doesn't stop you from living a peaceful existence, it just adds something beautiful to look at. Do you think the people of the middle ages up into the early modern era didn't live the simple lives he talks about just because they were Christian and had advanced technology? And the ultimate goal of every man is to have a legacy, and because of that technology will advance.

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>>129461382
Sorry but i'm not a big fan of worshipping trees and rocks, give me a mighty church, castle or cathedral anyday over some rock

>>129460471
then why dont you just fuck off in the woods why are you here?

>>129461382
Hey Varg, how are the kids ?

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>>129461878
There are many gods and goddesses to choose from, pick the ones that suits you best.

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>>129462035
I choose the Almighty God, do you actually believe there is some Thor in sky banging hammers to create thunder?

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>>129462313
I believe we have an ancestral bond to them so I choose to believe in them.

>>129462313

Do you really believe snakes have no legs because god cursed them since the first snake was a bad guy?

>>129462529
What's that things on your flag Sweden?

Pagan Swedes were basically niggers. Christian Swedes created what was basically utopia. And Atheist Swedes threw what the Christians had built into the garbage.

>>129462313

>not worshipping Wotan yet
>not realizing Christianity is Semitic aesthetics overlayed onto pagan culture

It's like you know nothing at all.

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>>129462529
Even your flag is a cross, what is Sweden before Christianity? Just a wasteland with some tribes here and there and nothing magnificant, then you abandoned God recently and now you are being cucked

>>129462942

See

>>129462906

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>>129462906
No thanks

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>>129462942
>Just a wasteland with some tribes here and there and nothing magnificant
Nice projecting Pekka.

Our superiority has to do with who we are, not your Christian McDonald's corporation.

>>129461996
Who are you?

>>129461665
This peaceful existence you mention, what good did it do to us? Europe is no longer majoritarily white, civilization poisoned our minds and made us drift away from nature and the way our forebears used to live.

And how exactly is it peaceful, again? When Christianity acted the way ISIS is acting now, but for a thousand years?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqFKK7V8XMc
Sacking our temples, killing pagans by the thousands, destroying our heritage for the Abrahamic God. Is that "peaceful"?

>>129462819

>swedes were niggers without Christianity
>being this historically illiterate

Nice insight, mr 54%

>>129463146

>late medieval / early modern architecture

Pretty, but note how there's nothing from Finland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEldsxI0FOE

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>>129463239
Christianity inspired Europe to become great, the old primitive beliefs kept us down
>>129463375
>nothing from Finland

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>>129460182
>Hail Jupiter

>>129461878
>worshipping
That's a Semitic concept reflecting the goatherders' authoritarian spiritual sensibilities.

>>129463646

What exactly did Christianity inspire?

If old beliefs kept us down then why was Christianity theology based on Greco Roman philosophy?

And that castle was built by swedes.

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STOP!!!!

DON'T FIGHT AMONG YOURSELF! THAT IS WHAT THE ENEMY WANT!!

Look, it doesn't matter if your Christian, Jew (uncertain), Pagan or whatever!

Just don't be a sandnigger moongod whorsphing butthurt cunt.

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>>129462942
cross is an ancient holy symbol you idiot. you northerners had cross of odin, we had the tengri cross. so did lots of other ancient cultures in the world. there's no such thing as a "pagan". that's how semitic snakes label any tradition before them

no one is worshipping trees or rocks, again you don't know shit finfuck. we see The One everywhere, in trees, in rocks, in dog shit on the pavement, even in your ugly autist face

fuck off with your semitic garbage you brainwashed little slave

>>129463305
The postman
Say hello to Marie

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>>129463880
That cross is still Christian though and made to present Christendom ps: God hates Turks

>>129463239

He is projecting. The Finns haven't accomplished anything with or without Christianity. All of the big buildings christcucks like him jerk off to were built by Nords or Russians that colonized his people.

>>129463782
Christianity would have been nothing without the foundations laid by Greece and Rome.

>>129463880
>The One
As above, so below; as within, so without.

>>129464253

Exactly. And the whole "Europeans would have been nothing without Christianity" doesn't hold weight when it was the Romans that so called civilized Europe and built its first cities. Then you have the Asians like Japanese who did not need Christianity. Japan is in better shape than lots of very Christian European countries.

Of course, it has nothing to do with religion but all with genetics.

>tfw you realise it's impossible for Paganism to become mainstream again as it can't be turned into an organised religion
Fucking kill me

>>129464660

Why not?

>>129464722
Very little is known about how our ancestors actually worshipped the gods, so any attempts at reconstructing them and formulating them into a rigid, organised religion would be almost entirely made up.

>>129464126


If I remember Linus Torvalds is Finn. He didn't need to larp neither as Christian nor as a Pagan to develop a kernel which runs on 99% of top 500 strongest computing devices.

>>129464660
>Can't organize without a religion

>>129464660
We're transitioning into an age of agnostics. A golden period of spirituality will follow, where people will look up to the old archetypes for inspiration and maybe even create their own gods. You've already seen a primitive version of this with Kek.

>>129460471
Then turn off your computer and leave your warm house, faggot.

>>129460182
Because if you were larping as a modern day pagan, you would be indistinguishable from your average low IQ idiot that worships their phone.

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>>129460182
>romans lived in mudhuts

>>129461285
He is also a cuck who is afraid to speak against islam and judaism. He is a divide and conquer puppet.

>>129464892
True, this is better than nothing at least. But I still appreciate the traditions and legitimacy of the Church and I wish something similar could be established with Paganism. But there's simply nothing to go off.

Ah well, it's not like it would take hold anyway.

>>129464839

Paganism is embedded into our group consciousness. It's just a matter of rediscovering it.

>>129463880
>roach
>being a pagan divide kike.

>>129465217
Nothing will happen, it will remain a dead religion that only delusional LARPers would follow.

>>129465162
Many different kinds of Pagans depending where you're from. Living in Australia I agree, it would be hard since you're not in your ancestral land or have any connection to it.

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>>129465162
It's not going to work because paganism is dumb as hell, most people in Europe converted to Christianity peacefully because Christianity is just better

>>129465339
I don't really care what happens to Australia or the entire New World tbf. I just want a return to organised religion in Europe, preferably Pagan in nature.

>>129460182
>If Europe is to become pagan again

what?

>>129460182
>Europe
>Scandinavia

pick one

>>129465456
>converted peacefully
Fuck off disinfo shill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqFKK7V8XMc

>>129465777
Hello Varg

>>129461250
>Stonehenge is celtic not nordic
Thats the point. Pagan LARPers just know Norse Gods.

>>129465735
Northern pagans, Slavic pagans, Roman pagans etc. Each working individually is what he means.

>>129460182
If Europe collapses then civilization is going to end anyway, so you'll be living in mudhuts regardless.

>>129465886
That's because what most of them actually worship is Hollywood.

>>129465886
No the (((Finn))) is acting stupid on purpose

>>129465950
Our cities will outlast yours. Your third world tier country is already falling apart.

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>>129465777
Some resisted first because they wanted to continue their degenerate paganigger ways, but grew up and accepted Christ

>>129465886
To be fair paganism has been hijacked by kids who confused the paganism method of divine patronism with the fanatical worship systems from semitic religions

>>129465886
actually Stonehenge predates Celtic people coming to the isles

>>129462529
>>129462906
can some people itt tell me more about holidays that pagans celebrate?

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>>129466164
Christianity is anti-semitic and against Jews, (((Swede))) do you really think Jews fear paganism?

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>>129466227
>"some christians resisted at first but then subdued to Islam"
Fucking retard.

>>129466405

>>129466306
Watch these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqEw2K2aRyY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl7G5y-KGeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuaimZALsGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MMP0LbNFyg

>>129466405
christianity teaches how to accept defeat. it's more of a doctrine to get rid of non jews

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>>129466306
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule

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>>129466599
Fucking saved ahaaha

>>129463305
damn i didnt know things were that bad, that really makes me dislike christkikery now. such a shame that things will only get worse from where we are now though. white people are probably going to go extinct in the future and theres only gonna be niggers and shitskins and theres nothing we can even do about it.

>>129460182
>why are pagans allways larping

we dont, in fact, the devinity I have witnessed is not even in conflict with Nietzsche.

I dont take any drugs and dress up in funny clothing on weekends, I sure do like the art and make related art myself.
But I worship power, witch is the main God. Everyone else is part of him. I dont see any reason to dig up the false interpretations wrote down by some smelly monks and somehow find my way from there.

I just talk with the gods directly and they do not tell me to go back into bronze age.
Its not a fairy tale, its fucking real and I dont have a lot of trouble with my faith by now.

>>129466306
True paganism is basically Catholicism minus Jesus/Judaism. All the same holidays, all the same basic morality, the same cyclical liturgy, etc,

Catholicism is where those traditions are still alive and have been passed down. If you really want to be a "pagan", go to the Tridentine mass and celebrate all holy days.

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>>129467283
Yeah let's just pretend that pagans didn't do that shit too

I like both Christianity and Paganism.

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>>129467767
Pretty much, however they need to accept Christ

>>129468282
why do you like christianity?

>>129468282

hello golden faggot

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>>129466599

>>129468378
He is not from Straya, he is from Sweden you numbnut.

>>129468344
I like the society Christians built, and Christian values, I also believe in Jesus Christ, however I feel a deep rooted connection to the old gods and also believe in them.

>>129460182
Don't be polak, don't accept any abrahamic enslavement religion and vuolia- I'm educated pagan, given you example to be a man.

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>>129465777
settle down varg

>>129468901
Society the christians built?
You mean all the restrictions in science and art?
Socialistic tendencies?

Christian values?
Like believing in something ultimatly good witch doesnt exist?
Or being restricted to 1 way of life (friendly passive, pacifistic)?

What do you mean, you believe in Christ?
You believe he was good?
What is good? (That last question is the only non-rethorical question.)

>>129467729
We think you're LARPing because there's no living chain of initiation so instead you make up this nonsense about religion being the exoterization of your blood. This concept doesn't even have any real basis, it's just one of the things that occultists infatuated with Jewish mysticism came up with

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OP what have you done
You unleashed the larpers

>>129469694
what do you believe in magyar?

>>129469864
Im a christian you török

Isn't it a coincidence that paganism is becoming popular in countries with worrisome Muslims population?
Well they are eurofags anyway, the only difference it would make is that they won't have an option to pay jizia.

>>129469457
I was visited by a spirit that quite well displayed that it can either kill or heal me.

And what concept do you talk about?

I believe that
>Might is Right
>rebirth in some sense
>spiritual world
>bigger organisms that we are part of (family, race or whatever)

When touching a tree and concentrating I comunicate with it in some way, I do not who exatly I feel when I do it, but the being seems to like me.

Acctually I dont know anything, I only know that it helps me and I will discover it. My ancestory sure is part of the big structure.

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>>129470513
>i was visited by a spirit

>>129470513
did you do anything to summon the spirit? or did it just come to you? also why did it come to you?

>>129460182
>implying tunics aren't comfy as fuck

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>>129470022
your ancestors came from steppes and lived freely as they wished under the blue sky. they didn't have a religon or something foreign to their culture telling them what to do. at some point your ancestors had to bow down to this death cult, by force or trickery, and here you are

there's nothing wrong with teachings of jesus and the traditions set by his disciples. (((rome))) hunted down these disciples for 300 years. when they were finished with them, they started hunting down other sources of wisdom. the enemy of men at work

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>>129470513
Stop doing drugs

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>>129470513
If that's true you were probably visited by a demon anon

>>129471237
>moved freely in the steppes always
yeah right especially when we settled down in fucking europe.
>force and trickery
It was for political reasons so no

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>>129469694
>pretending christcucsk aren't degenerate shits themselves

racemix, goy. the church commands!

>>129471093
no, yes, I think it wanted to help me becoming a higher human, I dont know.
It happend multiple times, but all the other times (10+) it just felt like wind (I am not retarded I looked up if it was just wind, it was a few times).
But the one time it grabed into me, this was the closest feeling to dieing I ever had.

>>129471498
I sure hope so

>>129471277
I dont even drink nor smoke

>>129471600
Even your language is fucked, well, your written language, at least, due to the catholics, same goes for western/central europe slavs

>>129471237
We seem to agree on the things you write, turkoman.

>>129471600
When will you finally embrace turko-ayran orthodox pan-tengrism.

>Paganism is the strong dominant White Man religion! Might makes right!

>Christians oppressed us and killed us though :((((

"Might makes right", huh?

Paganism seems awfully similar to Islam, in that the narrative changes depending on whether they're winning or losing.

>>129471777
did it have a name or can you remember what it looked like and did it say anything to you? also when you had the feeling of wind, do you know if you did anything to cause that to happen?

>>129472494
nice strawman, mudblood.

I would think it was religion, not civilization, that was created to keep tribes and multicultural countries together. A civilization is only as strong as its shared beliefs.

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>>129472836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOY39m0PDhg

>mudblood
>No wonder you're obsessed with blood

>>129472494
The church as an institution became dominant you fool, not christianity.
A christian person is recessive by definition, because that is what the church wants you to be.

And if you want to follow Christ, you are no different from Larping pagans.

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>>129472979
sorry, can relate.

pic related is the only thing i'm into.

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>>129473101
>The church as an institution became dominant you fool, not christianity.

Nothing will change in my country, my ancestor were worshiping Dacian Jesus basically

>>129472619
No it didnt have a name, and I didnt even see it. I dont have the senses for that. I have talked with other people with similar expiriences(2 girls) and they told me that one of them saw it and the other heard it.

No it didnt talk it just came and grabed into my chest. (it was a fairly slow process)

The windfeeling comes everytime I meditate and concentrate on myself. Otherwise it comes when I amrelaxed and think about the spirits or without any reason at all.

I also can make other people feel my soul(?) when I concentrate. They also explain it as some wind, warmth or tingle.

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>>129460182
Nobody suggests this. At best you get some healthy skepticism about modern trends.

>Strawman paganism sure is dumb, goys

>>129471683
and you just proved my point faggot

>>129472057
kek good joke

>>129471909
>your language is fucked
well excuse me for not writing in sticks

>>129460182

Take the red pill and realize that Christianity and paganism are the same.

>>129473781
oy vey, that word is not very inclusive. what would the priests think?

Nobody is becoming pagan again, larper

>>129474018
still proving my point that pagan larpers are degenerates

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>>129460182
Why are Catholic and Orthodox Christfags always LARPing medieval rich men that somehow bring god-magic to the people?

Rhetorical question, I don't actually want these people to do any other organized events. Let them spend their whole days praying and believing that they've been eating god or whatever, even if they go bankrupt financing corrupt but currently not violent churches.

>>129474114
i think you have no idea what "proving a point" means.

>>129471909
https://youtu.be/YlRyj8mHCjE

>>129473927
He's right tho
Our language people and country is an absolute shithole.

>>129474488
t.Gyurcsány

>>129474680
T. Viktor

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>>129474759
t.vona

>>129460182
Why do Jewish rabbis wear their weird robes?

It's not about rejecting modernity. I don't think the pseudo-occultism of the SS was about rejecting modernity. But many Pagan rituals want to emphasize the connection to the past.

>>129474896
T. (Nincs több) I've got nothing

>>129475063
t.konkrétan kicsoda? libsi/komcsi

"Paganism" is degeneracy that will do no god to the world.
Embrace Christianity, that says that mankind is highest creation after one true God.

>Gen: 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
>Deut: 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldn't be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the Lord thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
>Psalm 8:6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:
>Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
>2 Esdras 8:44: But people, who have been formed by your hands and are called your own image because they are made like you, and for whose sake you have formed all things – have you also made them like the farmer's seed?
>Sirach 17:1-4: 1The Lord created man of the earth, and turned him into it again. 2He gave them few days, and a short time, and power also over the thing therein. 3He endued them with strength by themselves, and made them according to his image, 4And put the fear of man upon all flesh, and gave him dominion over beasts and fowls.
Embrace Him and your noble birthright!

>>129475063
>>129475165
I love your language
it sounds cute :3

>>129460182
You got to be beond retarded to just switch and start beliving in stupid ancient relions(and most other too)

>>129475757
Mankind is not the highest creation.
The Übermensch is the highest being.

You are as much worth as a worm if you follow Christ.