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/sojg/ - State of Jefferson General (Stanislaus County Edition)

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The State of Jefferson is a proposed US state in Northern California (less prominent, but noticeable in Southern Oregon). The State was first proposed in 1941 and a movement quickly sprung up. However, due to the importance of WW2, the movement quickly died down. Many years later during the 90s, the movement resurfaced. As California began rearing towards a very left leaning blue state, more and more northern counties, fed up with being tossed out and disregarded by the Californian government, began the campaign once more to create the State of Jefferson. This will not only bring a conservative state to the west coast, but put a dent in the democrat stranglehold of California and the west coast in general. Since Oroville, the movement has exploded in popularity, making it the most vocal state separation movement in the US. (Note there is another secession movement in Southern California known as the "State of Jackson", however it is not nearly as prominent as the conservative led movement in Northern California).

Note: New development. Residents of Stanislaus county petition to join the Jefferson movement.

Links:

Official Website: http://soj51.org/

News Articles:

Stanislaus county residents petition to join:

http://www.modbee.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article154627374.html

http://www.krcrtv.com/news/local/shasta/state-of-jefferson-supporters-file-lawsuit-against-california/496024228

http://www.orovillemr.com/article/NB/20170529/LOCAL1/170529766

http://www.modbee.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/jeff-jardine/article130705049.html

Youtube Videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8mwwjAeUGM&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdUIyhD0we0&t=71s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrDWdsjYGeY&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wFczbAnmww
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So, how do you think the rest of California would react to seeing most of the important parts leave?
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>>129417978
Bye bye 80% of the water supply...
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>>129418053
How would California's electoral votes change? Would they lose some to Jefferson? Also how long will California have before it collapses into itself and blames Jefferson for its own failures?

Oh and also, Fresno county here, c-can I please j-join your new st-state?
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>>129417978
*Autistic Screeching*
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>>129417682
Still waiting.
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>>129418338
They would lose around 4 electoral votes.

And Fresno county voted blue. I'm not sure if you would be welcome.
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>>129418676
Also 2 more solidly (R) senators to DC, and X number of (R) reps.
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Placer reporting.

We need to make this happen, boys
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>>129418676
I didn't vote blue, I'm not even from Fresno, grew up in the glorious high deserts with guns and okies.

Pls....
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>>129417682
You guys really need to change your flag, looks like the official flag for /r/TwoX
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>>129418676

Do those two electoral votes already factor in the 2 senators?
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I'm all for this. I'm in Sonoma County, the first green county on the map from the south on the coast. Thing is, even here 90% of people are libtards
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>>129418915
The county itself did. If we're going strictly by counties, I'm afraid we can't help you.
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>>129418884
Likely only 3 representatives. In terms of state size, population, electoral base, and representatives. Think of Jefferson as the size of Nebraska.
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>>129418897
Placer county unite.
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>>129419536
Placer bros
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>>129419145
I believe so. But again, we'd likely only have as many EC votes as Nebraska/New Mexico.
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>>129419998
Still something to screw over the dems. Especially if they get Puerto Rico.
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Nevada County checking in. Bump.
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>>129419119
>The seal was a mining pan etched with a double cross – representing the long-time injustice suffered by the provincials at the hands of Salem and Sacramento. The seal clearly illustrated that the area had been double-crossed once too often.
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>>129420823
I get that, I know the history, but can't you guys change the design so it doesn't look like female chromosomes?
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>>129417682
this map is fucking retarded. i hope you kys.
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>>129420943
I don't think we can change a 70+ year old flag, but whatever happens, happens I suppose.
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>>129417682
Also if you guys want to effect change, then get elected to your local office and start handing out petitions and stuff, posting on /pol/ will only get you so far
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>>129421066
70 year old flag for something that doesn't exist can't be changed. fuck you guys are a special bunch.
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>>129417682
I'm probably going to start moving north
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>>129421193
It's a beautiful area all things considered.
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The Cold Civil War we're currently in is wearing thin. The sooner we go hot the better. Antifa will be like Carnival ducks.
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>>129421084
We have been. /pol/ is mostly to get the word out.
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>>129421084
That's how we have so many counties on board. The movement is definitely a foot. Has been longer than I've been alive.
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If Jefferson was to join Oregon would that flip Oregon red
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>>129421193
It's God's country, Anon.
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>>129421440
In your view, how specifically does this relate?
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Bump for secession. Jefferson leaves California and California leaves the Union. Sounds like a great idea
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>>129422074
Seconded, once you do, cutoff all the water from California. Don't shoot, let them burn.
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>>129421785
Or if Oregon separated... I'm strongly considering moving to Northern Jefferson because of this.

In Oregon, anything an asshair east of the coast is at least moderate/centrist, and it only gets more tolerable as you go.
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>>129422074
It truly is when you think about it. We have the economy to sustain ourselves.
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Bump. I just got a hat and patch from Jefferson outfitters. Now I need to put the velcro on and put it on my chest rig.
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>>129417682
Start secession now with the Porto Rico stuff going on. You'll find statehood easier if you can offer two GOP senators to balance out the two guaranteed democrats Puerto Rico will bring to DC.
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So basically gerrymandering on a national level. Anon you must hate living in a democratic society.
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>>129422495
Nice to know a supporter of the cause. Thanks.
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>>129420943
Valid point -I'm not crazy about the aesthetics either.
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>>129423157
Eh. It may change but it's most likely not going to change.
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>>129421434
Looks max /comfy/ desu. Where is this?
>t. east bay'er who wants to move north
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>>129422636
The U.S was founded, because how shitty it was being represented.

Sounds familiar huh?
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Shasta/Tehama represent!
Jefferson would be an amazing FU to the libshits down south.
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>>129418338
Contra Costa county here, why you put us in red zone faggot???
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>>129423668
>H E A V Y B L U E C O U N T Y
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>>129423376
The double cross is a good theme, maybe after this last election and gunmagedon we can make it XXX
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>>129423417
That is Mt. Shasta.
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>>129417682
Bump, I would gladly live in the state of Jefferson. Keep migrants from commiefornia out.
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>>129424297
It truly is a beautiful proposed state. Filled to the brim with forestry, snow, and mountains.
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>>129424455
>you will never be a SOJ game warden or state trooper
jdimsa
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oh no whatever will we do
the 1% loss to GDP will be crushing absolutely devastating i tell you
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>>129424539
Ech
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>>129422572
If ever there was a time to strike, this could be our window.
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>>129423417
My niBBa. You are only about an hour and a half from our southern-most clay. And you are only about 4 or 5 hours max from shasta.
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>>129424539
Never say never Anon.
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>>129417682
Sacramento wouldn't join them lmao. Nor would the US let Jefferson become a state.
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>>129424902
You would lose a big source of your water which you're already sorely lacking

It's no wonder the state is fucked if this is the intelligence of your average citizen
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>>129425971
The mindset perfectly encapsulates the attitudes of most Californians south of Sacramento and west of the valley.
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>>129418508
Reminds me of the great dictator
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>>129425971
Well, those Socal bastards need to learn that they can't drink oil or eat sand. Fuck em.
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>>129426426
I thought the same thing the first time I saw that movie.
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>>129417682
based jeffersonfags

could Trump's government eventually help the separation of Jefferson?
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>>129426426
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Hey /pol/ ... I don't usually post here, as I'm an /int/ dweller, but I would like some advice from you guys. I know you guys give it to people straight, without any sugarcoating, so I need your help. My home country of Serbia is by far the best country in the world - way better than your gay little state of jackson. There is no competition. Problem is that right now, Serbia is a failed state and a poverty ridden country. I need you to tell me what I can do to improve my country. Thanks /pol/

>>>/int/75915251
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So what will the economy of Jefferson be. Already the main export will be water to California. IDK how federal funding works but I suppose resources can be put into building more reservoirs and infrastructure. Also what will you guys do about Eugene. I think it has the only large university in Jefferson and its liberal as fuck. What will you do about universities in the state since it will be lacking.
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>>129428538
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>>129428633
>So what will the economy of Jefferson be

Weed
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>>129428633
lumber and seafood i assume.
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>>129428591
Go home then fag
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>>129429023
Give me advice faggot

>>>/int/75915251
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>>129428816
So weed and business friendly policies. Can Jefferson out grow all other states in marijuana start ups?

>>129428892
that would be a shit economy.
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>>129428633
Fuck university's they're commie hellholes. Economy of Jefferson would be decent, they have more then enough resources to draw on not to mention since they are probably gonna have lower taxes a lot of the businesses in cuckfornia will be drawn to it. Also it'll pretty gurrantee that if the cuckfornians secede they'll die of thirst.
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>>129428633
>What will you do about universities in the state since it will be lacking.
Humboldt State University
Chico State University
numerous community colleges
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>>129428633
Economies:
Lumber.
Tourism.
Snow sports. (Snowboarding/Skiing etc on the mountain ranges)
Water sports. (All the lakes everywhere including Tahoe)
Seafood.
Water electricity and hydro.
Etc etc.
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>>129417682
Can someone be real about how likely Jefferson is to happen? I didn't even know about it until a couple weeks ago but it actually seems like they have a decent chance of making it happen to me, but I can't tell if that's just my own biases coming into play or not.
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>>129430419
The problem is not support per say, but rather getting it into the legal system.

You see, California has a prop system in which a number of specified counties vote on a law, which is forced through the California legislature if it gets a majority vote. Then a prop with the caliber of Jefferson if voted through, would go to the legislature of the US itself. Which is currently Republican controlled.

The hassle is getting the prop in itself. And the leader of the movement (Baird) still doesnt seem to want to get his act in gear and try to make the prop happen.
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>>129430249
In my post i said Eugene but meant Arcata where Humboldy is. That place is liberal as fuck. Chico is large enough though and should service the states population. So if Chico state focuses in STEM its graduates can attract start ups. Do you want start ups popping up in Jefferson?

>>129430186
If the state legislatures are aware they can remove commie indoctrination from public universities. You need STEM to grow an economy.
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>>129417682
NO NO NO
THIS IS A JEW LIFE RAFT IDEA:
THEY'LL KILL CALI WITH VIRTUE SIGNALING
NOW WILL ALL MOVE TO TEXAS/ISRAEL/MY NAME'S JEFF TO SAVE THEMSELVES
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU NIGGERS
SOMEONE POSTA VERY POPULAR DISCORD FOR RIGHT WINGERS WHO AREN'T PRETEND COMMIE NIGGERS
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>>129430997
I'm not really sure how to reply to this post to be honest here.
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>>129428232
Considering a new state that separates from another needs consent from the federal government, it very well could help out greatly.
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>>129428633
Eugene is outside of Jefferson.

Exports would be lumber, minerals, stones. Some seafood, definitely some fruit groves and orchards. We have some of the best farms in the valley.
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>>129430968
Chico has a moderately healthy tech industry for it's size (100k, give or take).
build.com
Auctiva
SunGard
EXL Landa
Lots of smalller firms

You say start up like it's a bad thing. I suppose of you mean CIA sponsored startups like sillycone valley then, no, rather not have that. But it's like anything, there are huge problems to solve, but the biggest problem to solve is how NorCal is a slave to 30 million Bay Area/SoCal scum.
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>>129428633
Oh. And not to mention there is an over-abundance of farming and wineries all over the place. Wineries and such to the south-south west. Farming you can find basically everywhere. And more distilleries you can find up north.
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>>129430419
We've played the initiative/ballot game before. We poll really well to get on the ballot (everyone living in Jefferson clay approves). But then flop at election day. Good luck explaining Jefferson and the needs of the valley to an African American woman who is a civil servant in the greater LA area. We are so unknown that we consistently flop.

All this Puerto Rico noise is major. Our movement might have it's best chance at statehood since 1941.
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>>129430968
Humboldt is the only real problem. The potsmoking hippie degenerates there don't outnumber the rest of the state of Jefferson at all. Just a blip. Most of them will probably leave. The rest will just take it on the chin like most lefties ultimately do.
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>>129431830
I would argue that it has a much better chance than 1941. California was much to focused on WW2 to care about the movement at all. Now it is coming to haunt them.
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>>129431685
Start ups can attract the worst kind of liberals. People who do not know what they are talking about but just echo what they read on whatever liberal publication to sound forward thinking. You might think this is any liberal but its worse with the STEM types who are not well read enough in philosophy.

>>129431784
My question is can agriculture be enough to carry a state's economy in the 21st century?
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>>129432086
I mentioned a lists of economic resources above in
>>129430333 this post
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>>129432086
Operating word being "can". We had a large Kodak office here, we have large Oracle and HP divisions as well. Some of them are already here, and the average worker here doesn't care much for or against. Jefferson is just quite a different environment from Silicon Valley. And I speak from experience, having grown up and lived there.
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Calaveras county
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>>129432376
So its pretty much agriculture and tourism. with water being a potentially big resource. It can work in the short term but the economy will have to diversify to survive in the future.


>>129432702
Ive always thought that we need a tech hub large enough that has a different culture from Silicon Valley. I think a lot of Engineers are starving for one.
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>>129417682
>anywhere commiefornia
>not deserving of nukes
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>>129433363
Reno could be that, man. At least a shit ton of start ups are happening there. Not in Jefferson clay, but same kind of environment (NV has better business laws than CA though). Rocklin/Roseville (the most metro/high pop area of Jefferson) could be that with a decade or two. Who knows to be honest. I think a lot of good right wing folks would immigrate from all over God-forsaken CA to come to a hypothetical Jefferson. We could be way bigger than we currently are.
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>>129433363
As stated above lumber is a huge industry up there. I have neglected to say that they also have a large mining industry up there. Gold was discovered in a Jefferson county after all that kickstarted the gold rush.
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>>129417682
Sorry. California belongs to us liberals. We built it. We made it great. You are free to leave. There are plenty of red shitholes with no economy to choose from. We don't need another.
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>>129434132
>Made it great.
>Crumbling infrastructure
>400 billion dollar health care plan that doesnt even have a plant to pay for it other than raising taxes out the ass.
>Completely neglecting our rural communities while spoonfeeding the cities.
>San Francisco
>Oakland
It will be nice when we separate.
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>Jefferson and Cascadia become sovereign nations
>Eventually declare war on each other for control of the others' marijuana reserves
>A day later everybody forgets they're in a war because they're blazed as fuck
>War goes on for hundreds of years without anyone noticing

How based would this timeline be if that happened
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>>129434472
It wouldnt because Jefferson wants to become a state of the US. Not an independent nation.
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>>129433816
Is lumber still a big deal? Minerals can work if it is a large capacity. I guess its normal to be dissapointed since the USA has to have outsourced just about every manufacturing job out there.

>>129433699
Hypothetical Jefferson right now would have about 2.5m in population. With south Oregon. With a massive conservative migration how big can that be in 10 years?
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>>129434373
I'm sure your home has wheels, why don't you tow it to Idaho.
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>>129434581
In February 2013, California had 18,055,783 registered voters, comprising about 47% of its total population of 38.43 million. Of those registered voters, 7,932,373 (43.9 percent) were registered Democrats, and 5,225,675 (28.9 percent) were Republicans.

Around 5 million.
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>>129434634
I have a pool and a cozy cabin house in placer county. I have all that I would ever need in a home.
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>>129434132
Sorry honey, this was a red state. Nixon and Reagan made her great. Then the democraps slowly transformed it into the hell-hole it is today. If it weren't for the excellent views and near perfect weather, the state would be worthless. The only reason why the GDP of the state is so high is because of the heavy speculation on property which consistently leads to higher cost of living and therefore higher wages that still don't go far enough.

Manifest destiny built California, the gold rush built California. All you liberal have done is squander her great wealth with your burdensome welfare programs and excessive budgets.

Enough is enough. Jefferson Now!
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>>129434858
how did california turn blue? wtf happened?
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Butte county coming in late. Considering all the farm work I'm doing right now. Yes agriculture would be the biggest export also saw a Jefferson flag driving through Live oak, saluted and prayed for this thread to exist.
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>>129434132
>We made it great. You are free to leave
then tell your fellow californians to stop going to colorado, texas and washington ruining those states
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>>129435011
Millions of illegal immigrants in the south to the bay happened. From China to Mexico.
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>>129435017
We have a discord server up if you would like to join for future reference.
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>>129435011
Hollywood.
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>>129434581
I'm thinking even higher. Factor in about 300k from the Oregon counties, and then make the assumption that behind every 1.5 registered voters is a family unit... it might now be crazy to guestimate the state reaching 10 million at some point, assuming a complete GOO exodus.
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>>129434579
What's the point of forming your own state if you're just gonna be controlled by the same people already fucking you in the ass? Seems a waste of time.
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>>129435406
Sacramento is not included in the map. Sacramento county is colored red. Not green.
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>>129435011
My theory is a that it was mostly a stealth takeover from the Looney academic types that were leftover from the hippie/antiwar/leftist movements of the 60's and 70's. Hollywood libs helped finance it, turned their eyes away from its people, and a new wave of immigrants helped pacify the demographics.

It was no war of ideas, there was no debate. Those who were wise left a long time ago, and the urchins, the whores, the liars, and the elite all stayed.
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>>129435011
Mentally ill people (see: leftists) took it upon themselves to move there because they heard it was a paradise and subsequently introduced laws that benefit and encourage non-whites to flock there as well. This led to gibsmedats coming to take their share of the pie and now the state is bogged down by useful fucks.
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>>129435017
Dude pretty much all of Sunsweet's orchards are there. Had a /k/ meet with some artists up past Oroville. We drove right through em all.
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>>129422371
District 2 is solid, and parts of the 4th are okay.
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>>129435029
This, so much. I'm so sick of Califaggots migrating everywhere and transforming every city they touch into Los Angeles. Their garbage state just needs to secede already so we can build a wall around it and deport all the fucking hipster yuppie garbage back where they belong.
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>>129429664
>Can Jefferson out grow all other states in marijuana start ups?

If they wanted to yes.
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>>129435322
GOP* not GOO
>>129435818
Oh yeah my dude. Only district 2. Torn between Klamath, somewhere off of 97, or Bend (which ought to be Jefferson anyways). I fucking love Bend and am only not living there out of sheer self control (and a lack of funds)
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>>129435816
It's as redneck as it gets.
Rice, Walnuts, Prunes, Almonds, Oranges, Kiwi's
And yet its Southern California that "provides" for us and made California "great". Man, SHTF I could survive by just walking around my town and eating what I find.
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>>129430806
>>129431830
You tards know Jefferson will never happen because Congress is not going to approve adding two eternally republican senators. You won't be able to "trade blows" by getting Puerto Rico admitted either, because PR just uses the whole statehood thing to squeeze more federal funding.
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As a Pennsylvanian, I support this. California is a tumor on the rest of the country with its ideas.
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>>129435029
>>129435826
I can't believe I'm saying this. But #notallrefugees. The phenomenon you're referring to only occurs when lower to lower middle class yuppies realize they can't afford CA so they move and bring their left of center (moderate by CA standards) yuppie politics with them. Hence Ausrin, TX, for example.
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>>129436325
Oh yeah man. SHTF and most of this state is fucked. It'd make Rodney King look like a parade.
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>>129421434
>It's a beautiful area all things considered
Minus the goddamn transient antifa looking type during the summer, sure.
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>>129436091
K-falls is okay. Somewhere off 97 would be comfy as heck but you're a long way away from anything. Talent is a comfy little town in between Ashland and Medford which means you have access to all the services in a moderately sized city and all the weird shitlib things in the Aspen of Oregon.
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>>129417682
If this is going to work you have to take San Francisco
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>>129435011
Reagan gave 3 million spics amnesty and then they flooded California. CA would've still been white majority hadn't Reagan give them amnesty/citizenship. But of course Civic nationalists always defend demographic replacement like the cucks they are.
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>>129436368
So just split California into halves after Jefferson leaves.
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>>129435029
Arizona too. Our state is at the brink of turning into another Democrat-infested blue shithole thanks to Californians moving here.

Trump won by only a narrow margin, and Sheriff Joe Arpaio lost in a landslide to a pro-amnesty spic
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>>129436834
We can have laws against poverty tourists.
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>>129436909
San Franciso wouldn't want to be part of it
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>>129437138
Trump should end the DACA and deport all the illegals currently in the states. There's at least 30 Million+ Living here. The 14 million thing was last updated in 1983. Plus he should replace our current immigration system with Tom Cotton's proposal. That way restrictions on white immigrants would be removed and will be able to prevent our demographic displacement. Pray to Kek Puerto Rico becomes independent.
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Southern Oregon in the SOJ when?
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>>129436860
Yeah. I still have a hard-on for Bend tho... Grants Pass would be aight since much Noveske and all. Kfalls would be fine by me as well because my senpai owns land in Dorris just 20 minutes south.
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>>129417682


California is a lost cause man. The Jew gave it to Mexico.
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>>129437345
It's vital. Back in the 40's they used to stop traffic on the roads at the border with armed secessionists and hand out fliers. Not a bad plan I think.
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>>129437425
GP is a bit of a shithole t b h.
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>>129437345
since the 1940s
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>>129437345
Assumedly, after the CA portion leaves. Y'all have a better shot of doing it that CA does desu...
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>>129437576
They keep placating the conservatives here with low gun regulation and stuff like that so no one really wants to leave yet. Maybe something will wake them up.
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>>129437560
But, but, muh Noveske!?!

Also look at Tumalo. Fuck I need to move.
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>>129437325
>That way restrictions on white immigrants would be removed

Most Europeans are even more socialist than the spics at this point. I don't want them here either
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>>129437668
>background checks for private sales now

I FUCKING HATE IT.
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>>129437765
Whites usually become right as soon they step foot here, Unlike spics.
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>>129437917
Sadly, my personal experience with Europeans who moved here says otherwise
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>>129437668
Yeah man I've been watch Oregon politics carefully. Y'all have mandated state provision for hormone replacement for trannies and high capacity mags and "assault weapons".

We don't exactly have taxpayer trannies, but we don't have standard capacity mags and standard configuration rifles either.

Both states are fucked, so don't lose hope.
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>>129437985
It takes a couple years but overall it works, Most European immigrants voted for Trump.
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>>129437730
>Noveske

Redpill me on them. I only do plinking (for now) but I wanna buy a nice rifle to have a scary black gun.
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>>129438058
>a couple years
Most of them I know have been here for nearly a decade by now
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>>129438173
The European immigrants in PA become conservative after a while, must be a different environment. Trump won the majority of them here.
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>>129437985
Sadly I think I've seen more Eurocucks than enlightened ones. Mother Evropa has been tarnished for so long with degeneracy that they don't comprehend the new found freedom they have when they wake up in day after day.
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>>129438276
Most of the europeans I've encountered here in Arizona are some of the biggest cucks I've met. The only exceptions have been south slavs and greeks.
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>>129438100
War-fighting, semi-performance rifles. Highly engineered. Super aesthetic. Slightly over priced. Badass company. Had a sweet pic for you from their website, but I can't find it now.
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>>129438100
>>129438100
War-fighting, semi-performance rifles. Highly engineered. Super aesthetic. Slightly over priced. Badass company. Had a sweet pic for you from their website, but I can't find it now.
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>>129439195
>>129439243
Wow, so cool you had to tell me twice.
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>>129429532
sounds like your nation is filled with do-nothing faggots like yourself. Why is Serbia shit? It's filled with Serbs. Can't be helped desu
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>>129439570
Network issues haha. Join the Jefferson Discord and I'll help you figure out what to purchase for a big scawy black rifle. Here. Recent photo of mine :)
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TELL ME ABOUT BAIRD. WHY DOES HE REPRESENT MOVEMENT OF MOSTLY RURAL PEOPLE SEEKING REPRESENTATION AT THE STATE LEVEL?
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>>129440334
That looks like more than 10 rounds anon.
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>>129440568
(((10/30))) ;)
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I wish this takes off

>weekdays 3 - 6
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>>129441197
I actually got a pamphlet about Jefferson at a roadside burgerwagon in Gold Hill, Oregon. We're living in a time of high political consciousness, and the harder the shitlibs push the easier it will be to convince the normals that a modest revolution wouldn't be so bad.
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>>129441416
I want to have faith. But the system is too fxcked in their favor. I think all the famers should just do a demonstration (driving tractors on route 5 and 99).
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>>129441486
They don't care, they want their cheap labor.
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>>129418897
>>129419536

Placer County here as well. Cant wait for Jefferson to be a thing. Fuck Socal and the Bay.
>>
Holy shit you guys a fucking retarded. there is literally no way this shit is ever going to happen, no fucking way they allow it. I'm from trinity county and yes I know we get a raw deal, but thats how shit works, they get 80% to fuck 20% and there is nothing the 20 can do. what the fuck do you think MTBE in your gas is?
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>>129428633
>I think it has the only large university in Jefferson

HSU in Humboldt. Not necessarily hugely large, but annoyingly liberal. That should change, though, because it's part of the California State University system (not to be confused with the UC system).

I suppose whatever 4 year colleges and universities we get will become part of the UOJ. Some adjustment to the curriculum may be necessary.
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>>129428633
Don't forget, there's oil under Humboldt. Petrolia didn't get that name for no reason.
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>>129417682
Sonoma reporting
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>>129417682

My county wants to join Jefferson?

fuck yeah. But we shouldn't go any farther south than that. Sac and Stockton should not be in on this either.

Mariposa is fine, and Mono can join as well if they wish.
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>>129419174
It's closer to 80%.
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>>129435011
>>129435694
This, huge influx of leftists from the east coast in the 60s and 70s plus unchecked immigration from Mexico from 1980 to now.
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>>129443066
>>129419174
Because they have money. Only poorfucks fall for the conservajew.
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>>129432086
>My question is can agriculture be enough to carry a state's economy in the 21st century?

It certainly carries Nebraska, Iowa, and Kansas.
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>>129443735
>conservajew

Oy Vey
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>>129443870
Corn subsidies can fuck off, but proper exports are legit.
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>>129420943 see >>129421166
It's a flag based in history and a noble history at that. Fuck your 2010s perspective.

Pic unrelated.
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>>129443735
And I thought high income people vote conservative around the world...oh wait they actually do
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>>129444323
Republicans used to the be the party of the rich, back when the world's richest people were trust fundies who inherited granddaddy's oil companies. Republicans worked tirelessly to keep them from having to work a day in their lives, and they voted loyally Republican in turn.

Then an amazing thing happened. People starting earning billions of dollars by starting new and innovative companies. Being that these trailblazers were often geniuses, and knew the value of hard work, they naturally voted liberal.

Meanwhile, Republicans still work hard to keep J.P. Oilfields the Third rich, but his dollar isn't worth what it used to be.
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>>129445833
>Wealthy county full of white people
>In coastal California, the most liberal area in the world
>Still manages to be Republican

They are truly an anomaly and I'm envious. If I was rich I'd move there in a heartbeat.
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>>129446148
Not anymore. Orange county voted for Hillary.
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>>129446433
Just a blip in the radar, r-right?
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>>129445833
>>129446148
>>129446433
Romney Republicans. They're in it for the aristocracy and slightly lower tax rates, not really conservatives.
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>>129446503

Nah, their 'help' out number them and voted them out.

Orange is lost.
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>>129445833
Hey bro. I am from the 909. I go to the OC every day for work and i party down there. You should look up "the beach goys" on twitter and join us for weekly hikes and activities. We are alt-righters who are unashamed.
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>>129446503
Same thing in Georgia's 6th district. Someone like Scott Walker could appeal to them.
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>>129418676
So did Sonoma, Mendocino, and Humboldt hut they're in the proposed state.
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>>129443735
>Sonoma County
>has money
pick one, also I'm actually born in Sonoma, but I jumped the ship because of education
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Three K's a day keeps the niggers away.

If you hate niggers, jews, spics, arabs, faggots, commie scum as much as we do and you want to raid some tranny server once in a while, you should join the official Moon Central Discord! White people only. Introduce yourself in #introductions

https://discordapp.com/invite/rDSBTgq

1, 2, 3, 4 I declare a race war!
Join us and lynch a nigger tonight!

14/88,
The Triple K Mafia

P.S Fuck Niggers
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>>129448193
I have a lot of clients up there and they definitely have money. I go there for wining and dining and it's typically expensive. If there's a poor area of Sonoma I don't know about it. Plus as a coastal California country I'd imagine the property there is valuable.
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Three K's a day keeps the niggers away.

If you hate niggers, jews, spics, arabs, faggots, commie scum as much as we do and you want to raid some tranny server once in a while, you should join the official Moon Central Discord. White people only. Introduce yourself in #introductions

https://discordapp.com/invite/rDSBTgq

1, 2, 3, 4 I declare a race war!
Join us and lynch a nigger tonight!

14/88,
The Triple K Mafia

P.S Fuck Niggers.
>>
>>129448948
South by the Bay Area is fine. Its more north where people do alot of drugs.
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>>129434858
>>129435011
You mean back when Texas and the entire deep south were blue?
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>>129445130

>People believe this
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