When will we get traditional values back?

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>>129403864
Never again.

>>129404169

Fuck off, I need traditionalism back, I really fucking do

How long is going to take? Do you reckon men will rise up at some point? I fucking hope so.

>>129403864
When Hollywood is no more. It's a poison factory

>>129405073
That's a very small part of the problem - you have MILLIONS of people, in both your country and mine (and across other Western countries), who unironically believe in regressive, backwards, unscientific ideas around gender, the family, children, all this basic stuff that is ABSOLUTELY FUNDAMENTAL to humanity.

Attempted bump

>>129403864
when islam takes over

>>129403864
>50s
>traditional
Yeah no

What is done, cannot be undone. Its gone.

>>129407172
Fucking faggot

Take your shitskin hokey and shove it up your arse

You have enough experience sticking your hand around that area as it is

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>>129403864
You can literally just wait until marriage to have sex and marry a woman who will just make pancakes and have children.
To find these women go to cricket matches, church, rugby matches, equestrian centres, shooting grounds, national trust sites on bank holidays and weekends. You're also more likely to find these types of women in more affluent areas.

If you already have a girlfriend and want them to have children, just expose them to babies and toddlers, they will eventually want one. They always break in the end. When they come to you wanting a baby just say "put a ring on it hoe."

Oh it goes without saying non-believers are out, secularists are lifetime degenerates.

>>129407298
That's false - America went from the 1920s (flappers) to the 1950s (traditionalism) didn't it?

Not to mention the Roman Empire collapsed into degenerate morals, after having strong morals - and other societies that followed it also had strong morals, before degenerating.

When is our revolution?

>>129407948
Yeah I guess you're right, just focus on one's own life. But seeing all these Corbyn-supporting Marxists really worries me. They could really make things difficult for traditional people. They pathologically HATE traditional people. That worries me. How long can it go on for?

>>129407948
>equestrian centres
Horse women are fucking crazy, though.

I'm trying to bring them back. I definitely will not have a job when I have kids unless absolutely necessary. I really want to be able to stay home and give my future family the best life they can have

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>>129404169
yup

>>129404573
You have to change the laws first.

And to change the laws, you would need to either overthrow the system, or go through it.

Women are the majority in democracies. Passing any law that doesn't favor them is political suicide.

So basically no. You won't get traditional values back until society collapses.

It is women and democracy's fault for this.

>>129411111
>>129411111 (Cross-thread)
>You have to change the laws first.
>And to change the laws, you would need to either overthrow the system, or go through it.
>Women are the majority in democracies. Passing any law that doesn't favor them is political suicide

This is fucking bullshit you just have to do what the guy ...You know Joseph Smith did. Pick an area with a low population density and move there in mass. Then you control the local government. What are they going to do, send in troops if a million plus people stop paying federal taxes?

>>129411928
Yes that's exactly what they will do.
And you will be called a terrorist while they cut you down.

>>129403864
Looking that pic makes me realize how humans are becoming more degenerate these years, and we need another great flooding.

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>>129411928
States cannot overturn federal laws. Furthermore, there won't be infrastructure to support a mass movement of people.

And further-furthermore, even if you do somehow manage to pull it off, its fate will be that of white suburbs; the degenerates will move in and completely disrupt your harmony.

You have no defense, you'll have to hop from place to place, creating paradise, only to have it destroyed by the same method by which it was created.

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>>129405569
How hard would it be to just kill them? I'd imagine that 2-4 million dedicated, well armed, and well funded could kill like 30-50 million cucks, degenerates, and commies in only a couple of years. Who would stop them? Especially if they're decentralized, with no country of origin or bloodline to wipe out.

>>129403864
When food, shelter, and jobs are scarce.

>>129412837

>States cannot overturn federal laws. Furthermore, there won't be infrastructure to support a mass movement of people.

They've already proven with sanctuary cities that states can do whatever they want
>>129412316
Once the number surpasses an amount they can't do shit the pics of them killing people will go viral and they will lose control

When you start following the traditional values yourself and become a strong, independent, confident man.

It isn't something that exists in a vacuum, there won't be an announcement saying everyone has to follow traditionalist doctrine starting next Monday.

You cultivate it in community, inspire others to follow your example, teach your children how to be decent people so that when they grow up they'll spread decency around them.

You, them and your community voting is a consequence of a lengthy process.

It took liberalism 30 years to infect and dissolve traditional communities and rebuilding it will be much harder, but even if a relatively small group work towards this goal independently of each other, great and wonderful things can happen.

>>129403864
that picture literally contains the dream of my life, long time ago was easy and normal, by now, seems the most impossible task to accomplice, (((((them)))) fucked up female's mind so bad...there are no more real womens, ((((they))) have done something terribile to us

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>>129411111
But who gave women "rights"?

>>129413526
Do you listen to Jorden Peterson....Children socialise each other so sending them to a place filled with children of postmodernists is the exact opposite of what you're trying to do.

You have to be around like minded people if you want it to work.

>>129403864

Well since nearly every Western nation is importing socially conservative Muslims shouldn't old time values be coming back.

Women/gays/blasphemy/abortion etc.

Aren't Muslims a lot closer to the religious right politically? If you to sit a Christian Republican down with the average Muslim from fucking anywhere wouldn't they see eye to eye on most things barring:

1. Who is God.

2. Israel.

3. Foreign policy?

Shit just realized you are a limey. But you get the point.

>>129411111
laws don't fix degeneracy

even the most socially repressive regimes collapse, leading to progressives taking over the mechanisms and having more reach (hence germany)

only absolute freedom of markets and zero welfare or government services (beyond national defense) will fix social problems

>>129414287
>Well since nearly every Western nation is importing socially conservative Muslims shouldn't old time values be coming back.

can't build a society with 85 IQ inbred Muslims

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>>129403864

>>129414439

Do family values need Oppenheimer tier IQs?

>>129413854
The (((KKK))) supported it as a way of pushing prohibition.

>>129414683
Yes, there is a biological intelligence barrier to living in a first world country...No sub 90 country is out of the third world

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>>129414864

>>129403864
>>129407172

This, or when the mexicans become majority.

>>129403864
>tfw because boomers were triggered that they didn't like this American dream imagery they ruined it for us

>>129415017
Yeah....Nowhere else has the oil wealth per capita.

So yeah a tiny country with an average IQ of 78 can have a decent society during this specific 100 year period which is coming to an end because of massive oil wealth

>>129414864

Was the West won by white papers or true grit?

>>129403864
Liberals won't have it with how far they push degenerative and counter intuitive ideals

>>129414601
You mean white girl titties cause civilization?

>>129415427
It was won by guns and trains and more guns and roads and innovation.

>>129415622

So how will they turn socially conservative immigrants into gay rights and feminazi supporting libfags?

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>>129413854
Who gave them their rights? Doesn't matter all that much to me. Pandora's box is open.

Go ahead and kill all the jews you want, the genie of "women's rights" isn't going back into the bottle.

>>129414387
It's true, laws don't fix degeneracy. All they can do is discourage it or encourage it.

Welfare should abolished as that is part of the problem fueling single mothers. The government becomes the father.

Freedom of markets has nothing to do with whether your wife will leave you or not. I'm sure it's a worthy prospect to pursue, but it bears nothing on this conversation, which is about culture and society.

>>129414287
The problem is that muslims won't cooperate with the christians. All the muslims do is weaken the religious right by divide-and-conquer.

And as I've stated, women are the majority either way and won't vote against their base interests which is more "free stuff" (appropriation of men's resources by the state) and more unaccountability (no fault divorce is an example of this).

>>129415660
Its actually in our balls but hey

After all the Kikes have been gassed or shipped off to Israel.

But until then start building it yourself.

>>129403864

When you stop being nigger loving faggots...

>>129403864
You mean like Feudalism, where most of us are vassal tenants to a hereditary lord? Yeah ,that might take a while.

>>129403864
those were never my values anyway. i dont care anymore. all i want is comfort and ease.

>>129403864
New England with save us all. New political party in the US based on only the good shit, New England. It what people are waiting for and has almost zero faults.

>>129415758

Muslims supported Bush overwhelmingly in the 2000 US election. The Lib/Muslim lovefest didn't start until after 9-11. For the libs it was part of their "support any foe oppose any friend" doctrine.

>>129403864
What do you mean by "traditional" values?

>>129403864
After the war, most of us will be dead tho

>>129403864

You need to know the theories that drove the lunacy of today

Theodor Adorno
Wilhelm Reich
Erich Fromm

Read it and understand what you must destroy

>>129415785
Kikes are a global entity. They don't have to be in your country to influence it.

Even the non jewish (((politicians))) will follow the sway of the internationalist clique of Israel.

Furthermore, women are the ones who predominantly vote for these degenerate policies. Unless you're calling out the vaginal jew, you seem to miss the bullet on this one.

First you have to somehow stop women from being degenerate which doesn't seem to be possible without laws backing you to allow societal consequences for degeneracy. But the only reason you need to do this is to change the laws, so it's a catch 22.

>>129403864
Today. It starts with you, fag.

>>129410459
>falling for retarded memes

>>129403864

No one is stopping you from finding a pretty wife and raising three adorable children like you have in your pic, OP. Raising your family with traditional values starts at home - it's your responsibility to implement them.

>>129415989
what the fuck did you just say

>>129403864
I doubt they'll come back, but fetishizing the past like some hipster faggot definitely won't help.

>>129405569

I would say it is exactly the problem. Most, if not all, societies share very common basic traits in their traditional values. It is only when the Jewish media moves in that those values go out the door.

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>>129407298
This man would like a word with you

>>129413805
>only "females"' mind
men are just as fucked up and degenerate, don't you see all the racemixing and trap shit /pol/lacks post regularly?
Might have started with women's rights, but it fucked up the men as well
even if some woman wanted to be traditional, finding a non degenate, non cuck man must be a near impossible task and not as short term rewarding as being a slut for cocks and attention

>>129403864
People are a lot happier across the board now than in whichever time you fetishize

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>>129417214
Yes, goy. Very happy.

>>129417214
Not even close

They make more money but after you make enough money to pay the bills money doesn't increase happiness

>>129417581
People today suffer from a lack of sense of purpose and social responsibility than at any other time.

>>129417686
People didn't have any purpose back then either, they didn't have shit to do but go make money to take care of their stupid kids and lazy wife, take you or anyone else from this board, if you went back to the 50s or whenever you'd literally commit suicide out of boredom because of the lack of the internet.

>>129417915
They typically had a sense of familial belonging and also of belonging to a nation with an identity they were a part of. They could go fight in wars feeling patriotic.

>>129403864
I work full time and my wife takes care of my baby boy. I've done my part to continue the white race. Get your shit together faggot.

>>129404169
This. You will never convince women to close the door on sexual liberation. It will take force, violence, fascism, islam,etc.

>>129418058
You better start worrying about which children will be socialising your child because it's basically out of your hands at 5

>>129418292
We need to reintroduce physical discipline as a tool for controlling women.

>>129418031
You must be right given how you lived in the 50s and knew what everyone thought at the time. It's not like people love their families in 2017 or anything, or feel patriotic, that never happens

>>129403864
Does nobody outside of white counties realize that non-white countries have traditional values? Japan, India, South Korea, Taiwan, China, Mexico, Nigeria, etc?

>>129418612
Except you are wrong. Japan and South Korea both have problems.

>>129418539
>implying you had to be alive at a time to know anything about the social climate
I Guess all studies of history are a waste of time.

>>129417915
>People didn't have any purpose back then

Depending on which people and which environs they were living in, just trying to survive was their purpose. They didn't have anything that wasn't created by themselves or in their immediate communities, so providing for basic needs required the majority of their time and labor. We think being self-sufficient is some kind of relic of a bygone era, but there's nothing more empowering.

>>129418733
Neither give homosexuals or transgender people rights. South Korea even allows discrimination. against single mothers: you can lose your job or the place your renting if they find out you're a single mother.

>>129418612
Half of America has traditional values...It's no coincidence that the Republican party voter averages over 50k a year and they also push for traditional values

>>129419011
WOW, I wonder why neither country has any crime. 105 average IQ no single mothers.

Really makes you think

>>129403864
When Jesus comes back and throws all the degenerates in the lake of fire

>>129403864

When we slaughter those who took them away from us by poisoning our society from academia and the media

>>129419023
But what's considered traditional today has been pushed so far left compared to what it used to be. Even conservatives are pro gay marriage now.

>>129418820
>Survivalism
>50s
Survivalist stuff is fine, but that's not what people put on a pedestal in these type of threads, they look up to the 50s type stuff which is basically the same type of capitalist system that we have now, just more boring and bland and less entertaining

>>129419023
It's no coincidence that business owners (even the ones that aren't white men) happen to vote Republican. Look who owns businesses in the US. In my area it's Whites, Indian, Sikh, Mexican, Korean, Laos, Chinese, Japanese, Portuguese, Italians, and Vietnamese.

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Daddy, can i haz some moar?

>>129417915

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read in my adult life.

>>129418528
And to do that, you have to change the law.

Which requires women to vote against their interests or for you to overthrow the gub.

It's not happening.

>>129419537
You can't deny that in the 50s, the USA had a for more pro-white, Christian, and nationalistic quality. People still felt connected to their communities and the family unit was still strong. All these things are essential to having a feeling of purpose.
They had God, nation, community, and family much more than we do now.

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>>129419774
I know it can't happen but it's what needs to happen.

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>>129419537

Posters look at the 50's as:

Less niggers.

Less spics.

Less abortion.

Less upheaval.

As a reference I ask that anyway who cares read the Kerner Commission to understand how we in the US got so fucked up.

>>129419626
And yet the republicans don't do anything to turn back the clock on women's privileges or the welfare state.

They're all talk.

The right in America has been pushed left enough to become impotent.

It's over.

It won't magically grow back.

You need strong institutions to provide the ideological content to form your population moral ground.

When you have a godless society, where women are preached to whore away and not to marry, abortion is tolerated, men are shunned down at every turn, gays can show filth like scat and fisting on youtube, pedophiles can preach in the defense of their practices, furry abomination is allowed...

How the hell are you going to have any traditional anything?

All you are going to have is pure hellish nightmare .

>>129419167
>2015
>Asian single mothers in US
>16%
>White single mothers in US
>25%
>Latina single mothers in US
>42%
>Black single mothers in US
>66%
US needs more Asians if it's wants to be saved.

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>>129403864
You have to go to where they are still around (and growing.) Holmes county, ohio is the first county in the us to be majoritarily amish in the agegroup of 5 and under. The amish are growing exponentially and even the ones who leave the church (which is rarely) end up being conservative with big families. The holmes county area and all of the counties surrounding it appear on a map of "second most spoken languages" in the us on a county by county basis as a blue splotch of german in an otherwise red map of spanish. The amish population doubles every twenty years now, and they have on average 6 to 8 kids. The state that has the biggest amish population as a proportion of their population is indiana, and ohio has the largest amish population.

Would you rather raise your daughter in a county that was guarenteed to be white in the future or black and hispanic?

http://arcmap.mla.org/mla/default.aspx

http://www.citylab.com/politics/2012/08/exploding-amish-population-bubble/2795/

>>129420023
That's hard, you can't really develop a grass roots movement when the kikes have control of the media and education.

>>129419780
If you're coming from the perspective that ignorance is bliss then yeah that's valid, but that's never going to happen today, since we've had the internet, you'd have to completely get rid of the internet or come up with some way to wipe people's memories or something, that's the only way you could get that to work now

>>129419896

Just to point out. SOB, HECTOR, and SCOTT where some of the most PRO USA people I have ever known. Despite their skin color. They used to raid NAMBLA meetings and beet the shit out of everyone there.

>>129420847
I didn't say anything about getting that back today. I'm just saying things were different then and people had more a sense of purpose and belonging. That's my point.

>>129419917
Psst. Here's some inside info.
I own a business, and I contract my HR guy, and he's seen and heard some shit.
All the other companies he's working with, from California to Texas is frantically collecting I-9 forms on all their workers.(Requires 3 proofs of legal status to work in US)
All the construction companies are starting their projects this year and trying to get them completed by the end of the year.
The only reason for any of this to be happening is that they're going to purge the US of illegals. Looks like it's happening Q1 2018 sometime. There's a lot action happening behind scenes in the business world.
Don't believe what the media says Republicans are up to. They're fucking hustling and nobody is looking.

>>129413430
t. antifa false flagging as a white nationalist

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>>129421063
>America kicks out the mexicans
>all the people I want to kick out of Australia are legal

>>129418612
What does that have to do with anything?

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>>129407952
>That's false - America went from the 1920s (flappers) to the 1950s (traditionalism) didn't it?
>Not to mention the Roman Empire collapsed into degenerate morals, after having strong morals - and other societies that followed it also had strong morals, before degenerating.
>When is our revolution?

You are into something.

Look up the hemline indicator for the stock market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemline_index

Culture is related to the economy.

And our culture stinks because we are at the end of the longest economic boom in history to to monetary madness.

Islamic style dress on the way.

>>129403864
When you work for them and study them and spread them yourself instead of perusing an Atlantean coffee table assortment all day

>>129421688
The kikes bankrupt you monetarily as well as morally.

>>129413430
Hi fbi!!!

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>>129421782
>The kikes bankrupt you monetarily as well as morally.

We will pay dearly for the madness.

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>>129415989
>New England will save us all
We're the most liberal degenerate part of the country you retard.
T. Vermont

>>129421433
poor leaf - you guys are doomed. Have fun with Bill C-16, 2016.

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>>129403864
Traditionalism has made a comeback several times in history. The problem is it usually takes place after hard times that you may not live through or live to see, and it will be a youth movement. Your age equivalent peers will still be sympathetic to the old degenerate times.

>>129403864
After the dust settles from The Event.

>>129403864
>When will we get traditional values back?
I just finished watching this. It is about an hour long, broadcast in 1982. It is written by the man who wrote "The Christmas Story" that funny and sweet movie that TBS TV station used to play every Christmas. This movie is about the 4th of July. Very funny, and a very young Matt Dillon plays the older son Ralph. Anyway, I got very sad and teary at the end, because I don't know if this America will ever return. Takes place in 1950s Indiana. The first four or five minutes is introduction by the author, but it also shows a part of America from the late 1970s/early 1980s. Very sad American culture has, and is, being destroyed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zow7fro-WGE

>>129420594

Yes, now you are getting it. Read Gramsci, understand the blueprint!

>>129403864
1950s america wasn't "traditional", too much propaganda in your system man

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>>129404169
FPBP.

Has nobody in this thread read the story about Pandora and the box? Once she opened it, the evils were unleashed and never put back inside. Only hope is a 100% realistic virtual reality system where you can plug in and have the good old fashioned Christians stuff you want.

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>>129423388
Thanks, huebro.

>>129407952
None of them had technology. we will never get one

>>129423388
cuckoo

>>129423614

Colleges are the churches of social liberalism and sexual liberation.

Art and media is now used to promote it non stop, just like in the old days, those were used to promote christianity.

It's a matter of owning cultural institutions, the ideological churches. Without it, there is no formation of ideology on masses of people.

I live in ultra-rural Alaska, so traditional values never left.

>>129424226
>Colleges are the churches of social liberalism and sexual liberation.

Hm, yeah. I always likened liberalism to a new religion. It's just called something else.

>>129424258
I'm near San Francisco, the epicenter of degenerate garbage.
>be me
>visit liberal friends in SanFran
>they complain it's getting too liberal
>someone called the husband transphobic
>because, him, a heterosexual, won't suck dick
>he runs business
>worker brings US flag sticker to put in personal area
>BLM/resist/SJW freaks out about flag
>says people who use US flag are Nazis
>he's looking at property in Republican city I live in

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>>129403864
>When will we get traditional values back?
Pic related

>>129405569
>who unironically believe in regressive, backwards, unscientific ideas around gender

Describe to me the beliefs of these people around gender.

>>129412837
>won't be infrastructure to support a mass movement of people.
Who was mother-fucking Mormon trail and Salt Lake City?

>>129421063
Moar info

>>129403864
When Christianity becomes the dominant culture

>>129405073
>When Hollywood is no more

Lots of people say that and yet will go watch every perceived block buster this summer and bring the family only to ridiculous movie themed parks. If people actually considered recreation instead of distraction Hollywood would take a hit and start to listen.

>>129405569
>unironically believe in regressive, backwards, unscientific ideas

Ideas the got from movies and TV. Hollywood.

>>129430629
>tripfag
Have you considered spending your summer vacation working in the exciting fast-growing business of suicide?

>>129416242
>meme
He's not wrong though.
CRAZY
R
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Women's suffrage must end.

>>129415116
>when the mexicans become majority

Why then mexicans vote democrat?

>>129413430
>advocating murder on a Laotian flip-book translation forum
No.

>>129404573
Oh and you have to contend about dealing with automation.

>>129431313
Because gibs.

>>129415427
>white papers or true grit

Actually both. Pioneers and settlers used to read for recreation. The image of them been illiterate and simple was create by Hollywood.

>>129414080
Now more than ever does homeschooling make sense, and the data backs it up completely.
I'm betting it'll be outlawed in blue states shortly.

>>129403864
when the kikes are all dead, or when islam takes over

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>>129403864
>When will we get traditional values back?

>>129403864
Right before the next great Empire's fall. It happens in cycles and cycles don't go backward, only forward.

>>129403864
never, whites are fucked beyond saving due to their obsessive love for kikes (your greed and degeneracy have also contributed a lot, but that is another story,lad)

>>129431780
>when the kikes are all dead

>kikes are all dead
>hey becky, let's get back together again!
>no todd, I'm sucking jamal's dick rn
>hey politicians, let's take away all the privileges women have that allows them to be huge sluts!
>no todd, we want to be reelected
>wah, but, but THE JEWS ARE DEAD, MY WHITE WOMEN WOULD NEVER BETRAY ME
>WHITE WOMEN SHOULD BE PURE NOW, WHY WON'T THEY GO BACK!

Well when someone decides to have a goddamn child maybe we could NOT charge them for child abuse for letting them handle a harmless snake.

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>>129407952
>Roman Empire collapsed into degenerate morals, after having strong morals - and other societies that followed it also had strong morals, before degenerating.

We need a new Lex Julia and a leader with steel balls.
Let's start spamming pic related

>>129421063
>The only reason for any of this to be happening is that they're going to purge the US of illegals

I wish The God Emperor remembered the territories are USA soil and remove our ilegals. Here the estimate was half a million mostly Dominicans by the last census.

>>129430937
Care to lead by example?

>>129430937
don't feed them (you's) faggot

>>129403864
When people start fixing their homes before trying to fix the world.

>>129416242
Horse woman will love their horse more than they love you.