What does /pol/ think of this?

>>129364798
I would like to see if you can reform it into an exemplar of a system.

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i like it. all my problems with healthcare have been because of shitty individual doctors, not the system. in fact when i went private they were even more arrogant and useless.

now we can debate having a centralised non-profit system (NHS) vs private but highly regulated system (yurop, Singapore etc)... but the bottom line is healthcare must be not for profit. When you make the whole system for profit it leads to terrible outcomes because it incentivises them to put profit before the patient. theyre incentivised to keep you sick, make you sick, 'treat' but not cure you, recommend unnecessary and damaging treatments which cause then more problems... basically just keep you on the hook while they bleed you for as many shekels aa possible. over here is the opposite, they're incentivised to fix us ASAP, because they get paid either way.

i feel sorry for amerilards when i see them arguing with each other about their healthcare.
>muh obamacare
>muh before osamacare!
>trump will ease regulations to make the system more efficient!

They're all shitty solutions because they're all missing the point. For-profit healthcare doesn't work for the people. It only 'works' for the (((doctors))), (((pharma))) and (((insurance companies))).

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>>129366555
>now we can debate having a centralised non-profit system (NHS) vs private but highly regulated system (yurop, Singapore etc)... but the bottom line is healthcare must be not for profit.

No actually we can debate whatever we feel like. I do not let leftists dictate what the Overton window I'm "allowed" to choose my opinions from.

Fuck off.

>>129366976
kek
getting this triggered by a figure of speech

>>129364798
Pretty good.

Live in a place where nobody lives so waiting time is always pretty low.

>>129366555
>but the bottom line is healthcare must be not for profit.
If there is no profit, then why should people develop medical tech?

It's pointless because birthrates are actually falling so what's the point of using all that tax payer money to keep people alive if they wont have children? Get rid of the NHS and get rid of all welfare. End reliance on the state.

>>129364798
I fully support Universal healthcare, it's one of the things the left is right about, BUT it can only work under specific conditions.

>no illegals and no mass migration, which means not taking care of mohammed and his 8 goatfucking children
>must be very rich country
>population must be healthy, period. With the obesity epidemic the west currently have, it's impossible for UH to work, obesity causes dozens of diseases and complications, the burden is too great.

>>129364798
Socialist shit

>>129364798

Unsustainable with pressures from rising obesity, immigration legal or otherwise, health tourists, entitlement attitudes, to name a few.


Either the country has to change it's laws / policies. or the NHS model will have the change. either that or collapse.