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Why is the EU bad, Anon? All the based countries support it

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Why is the EU bad, Anon? All the based countries support it
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bumpin
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>single centralized currency used by lots of countries
>single centralized currency crashes
>all countries using it are fucked
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>>129358669
not all EU countries use the Euro
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>>129358732
>single centralized currency used by the majority of countries in the EU
>single centralized currency crashes
>all countries using it are still fucked
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Why does poland and Hungary love it when eu wants to fill them with Muslims?
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>>129358869
We're talking about the EU, not the Eurozone
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>>129359051
Might have something to do with the EU pulling them out of 3rd world status
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>>129358869
are you fucking retarded?
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>>129359116
>EU wants to use one currency and most countries inside the EU use it
>this currency crashes
>countries within the EU using the system's economies crash
>these countries are fucked
>as EU needs more money from countries who arent using the cucked currency they withdraw
>EU collapses and so do the countries within it that were using its gay single currency
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>>129359326
yes, im on /pol/
it would be a surprise if i wasnt retarded
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>>129359269
fuck status, i remember how it was before the euro, fuck europe and fuck you too op
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>>129359370
What happens if the GBP crashes? The UK will be fucked?
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>>129357870
This is so inaccurate for Poland, maybe its my region but I usually hear people shits on EU.
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>>129359487
Invited: based countries that support the EU as seen above
Not invited: socialist Russian bootlickers
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>>129359618
What happens when the dollar crashes?
The US will be fucked

oh wait, its not gonna crash because of petrodollar

petrodollar isnt going to collapse, because last time it almost did, 9/11 "mysteriously" happened, we profited off war, and got an excuse to take our people's freedom away
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>>129359370
I agree, fuck the gay single currency
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>>129357870
This is so inaccurate for Poland, maybe its my region but I usually hear people shits on EU.

Everything was relatively fine until the Treaty of Lisbon, when EU was officially born
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>>129359783
I asked you a specific question. What happens of the GBP collapses?
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>>129359781
like if i need a faggot to invite me stfu before i slap you
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It's good for Europe simply because of collective trade deals with the rest of the world. We in the US hate it due to bi-lateral agreements with each country being way more beneficial. Additionally their collective defense is emboldened by sharing a currency because article 5 of NATO would be impossible to ignore when a country using their currency is under attack, in this sense it is good for the U.S. Outweighing pro's and con's and the fact that Article 5 is not contingent upon the EU it would be better for the U.S. if it were broken up. Also the national identities and cultures of all these formally sovereign nations are being systematically destroyed.
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>>129359902
pay debts
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>>129359051
Because at the moment they're getting away with not being flooded. They'll quickly change their minds when they do.
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>>129359900
Their country's economy gets fucked might or might not destroy the country? like all crashes yeah.
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>>129357870
Just 50% in Germany? If we can get Germany to leave, the entire EU would implode. This would, of course, be a very difficult task.
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>Greece
>Doesn't like EU
Fuck you ungrateful Ottoman rape babies, we saved your ass... and pay debts
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Countries like Poland love it because of the money they get and the workplaces around the union.
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>>129360136
you dindu nothing
you saved german and greek bankers
kys delusional faggot
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>>129357870
The EU is the blueprint for (((one world government))).
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>>129359924
Wouldn't you say the pros outweigh the cons?
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>>129360258
that's how economy rolls, creditors need to get their money.
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>>129360994
you saved them from going to jail
you think everything was done by the books?
i agree the debt is legit just not all of it
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>>129357870
Those favoring countries just haven't become like Greece yet.
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>>129360258
Take down Syriza already and leave the Euro already.
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>>129359487
PAY DENBTS
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>>129364205
they won't fuckin let us
the opposition party (ND) threatened the SYRIZA goverment (which rules for the first time ever, while ND ruled for 40 years) with jail time IF WE LEAVE THE EURO
there is no way out, if citizens make any serious attempt to leave euro they will probably end in jail
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>>129365686
bump
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>>129357870
Poland will pay for this treachery
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>>129357870
>Why is the EU bad
Because it is undemocratic and is currently destroying western civilization.
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bumperino
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>>129370544
explain
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>>129371020
Who is Juncker, what exactly is he doing, who voted for him?
Who can you actually vote for and what can these people do?
Do you know the answers to these questions?

The destruction of western civilization part should be obvious.
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>>129371522
The heads of the states that were elected in each country respectively..
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>>129371716
>The heads of the states that were elected in each country respectively..
No.
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>>129371877
that's what the EU commission is m8
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>>129372179
legislation is not proposed by the European Parliament
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>>129372179
>The heads of the states that were elected in each country respectively..
>that's what the EU commission is m8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commission

You are not electing the commissioners, they are also not "head of state" and are not supposed to represent national interests.

A quick glance at the Wikipedia article should show you that.
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>>129372604
the Parliament is voted for directly. you're confusing the 2
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>>129372686
the EU commission is basically run by Merkel etc
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>>129372937
No. The European Parliament can NOT propose legislation on its own.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament
"to make a proposal for legislation, it needs the Commission to draft a bill before anything can become law."
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>>129372937
No I am not. Legislation is proposed by the EU Commission which is not elected. They are appointed. The EU Parliament does NOT propose legislation.
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>>129373097
No the European Council is run by Merkel and that is a de facto power position alongside Donald Tusk. Not the Commission. It is run by Jean-Claude Juncker
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>>129373097
No. It is not.
It is headed by Jean-Claude Juncker, someone with more influence then Merkel.
It is also beyond all national influences.

You see, you don't have a clue about how the EU works, but that is not really your own fault.
The reason is that you have basically no influence on it. Calling the EU a "democracy" is really generous, it is not build to be controlled by the people.
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>>129372937
Perhaps you don't understand. The people who are actually elected (MEPs) do not propose legislation. They only have minimal power which is to propose amendments essentially. The Commission is the sole legislative body in reality. They are not elected. The EU is run ass backwards.
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>>129373186
yes, the EU commission does
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>>129373356
he is proposed by heads of state
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>>129359781
Why do you support something that wants to replace your people in your own home?

ps you cant bump your own thread newfag
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>>129373916
>the EU commission does
Exactly, thats what I said.

BUT the EU commission is NOT elected by you. Do you see the problem here?

The ONLY people who can propose legislation are NOT elected by the people. Do you see why someone would call such a system undemocratic?
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Why is the EU bad? The EU has failed to militarily mobilize Europe against Russian aggression. It's failed to bring Europe together to bring a solution to the migration crisis. It's failed to deliver a proper counter terrorism response. And it's failed to create economic stability amongst many of it's nations. All the EU does is violate the sovereignty of 26 nations and allow a tiny minority in Brussels to virtual signal on behalf of hundreds of millions of diverse individuals. The negatives outweigh the positives.
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>>129374535
Russia didn't attack the EU
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>>129374535
>economic stability

clearly Poland and Hungary disagree
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Countries like Poland escaped the Soviet Union only to turn around and willingly enter into the Soviet Union - Western Europe, and they love it too.
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>>129377155
t.clueless fat burger
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>>129357870
>Why is the EU bad?

EU foreign and defence policy.
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>>129378500
explain carlos
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>>129357870

Greece and Spain literally get called pigs, have massive unemployment.

How fucking cucked as a country can you get?
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>>129358669
You're right, all the different states in the US should have separate currencies
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>>129378500
Ban on Russia for "no reason".
Cucked by the Anglojew org.
Paying Turkey and Morocco to deal with the subhumans.
Gonna be more irrelevant than China and India in the next 25 years.

I mean we're going to be like 1200-1492 years, sorrounded by moors and irrelevant.
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>>129381140
China and India are only relevant because of huge overpopulation
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>>129357870
Of course the countries with few jobs and over all bad economic states would like the EU; it allows them to come into European nations with good (for now, that is, until the Euro collapses), economic states. It especially bad because bureaucrats in the essentially nonstate of Belgium decide the fate of all of Europe. Decide the borders of all of Europe. This allows all kinds of schmucks to travel without check throughout Europe. And further more, it essentially acts as barrier and further divisor (economically and otherwise) between western and eastern Europe. And pretty much the only country benefiting economically is the ring leader; Germany, who feeds like a parasite upon countries like Greece through forced arm deals with corrupt politicians and otherwise.
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>>129381933
how are borders an EU issue? the USA has the largest problem with illegals and is not in the EU
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>>129377404
I wouldn't say that so fast, Pole. Our government is probably the best in the world. We have a safe and fair democracy and different levels of government. Europe has essentially reverted to a liberal communist system that is once was so fervently fighting against.
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>>129382463
>the USA has the largest problem with illegals and not in the EU

Where have you been? The US most certainly has a problem, but that is not what we are talking about here. The EU allows someone who has not even stepped foot in your country to decide who comes in and out. You don't see a problem with that? Look at all the 'refugees' they've allowed in thus far. Isn't that the same thing?
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>>129382900
the UK, the USA and Australia all have problems with illegals. It's a rich Westerner thing, not an EU thing
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>>129383129
What about Nippon?
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Australia is a far off island-like continent and still Muslims go there on boats. its also 75% white while the EU is 92% white
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>>129383281
it's not a Western country obviously. It's a very harsh society even to its own population. most of young Japanese males can't find relationships and work themselves to death
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>>129383129
You... You just ignored my whole comment... Stop trying to shill for the EU. Some sort of binding between European countries would be fine (one that is not economically restricting or otherwise) but it can't be so unbalanced. The EU pretends it is equal when in fact it only allows for countries like Germany to get richer off of poorer ones.
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>>129383593
so why do the poor countries like it so much?
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>>129381988
moron you can't bump your own threads
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>>129383705
Quite frankly I don't think they do. I am not sure about the pol. Poland is already in direct defiance of EU policy, and they are making an attempt to penalize them in some way. Though the poor countries might like it because it makes it easier for them to get into countries like the UK and use the easily available welfare. One of the reasons why the UK voted to leave.
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>>129357870
>Poland & Hungary
Two states that utilized the EU to pull them from post-Soviet despot states to stable and successful nations that posture them to better leverage a culture of labor and workmanship

>Greece
Government held together with tape and glue by the EU while most people want to cast it out.
>France
Muslims, and not just french Muslims.
>UK
Filthy Continentals.
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>>129384071
You are wrong and I just showed you data that disproves it. Having actual facts at hand instead of anecdotal evidence and wishful thinking is how men should evaluate things. Not going by feelings.
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>>129359051
doesnt say how many people got surveyed, im guessing a very small ammount got questioned.
And EU is fucking awesome at brainwashing sheep
look at all the fucking signs on every building that got funded by the EU
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>>129384243
so the EU is producing stable and successful nations
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>>129384521
yea, but there are better ways to create stable and successful nations, some nations get cucked by the EU
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>>129359051
This is an older survey, if you polled Poles and Hungarians today it would show a significantly larger unfavorability towards the EU.
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>>129385088
it'a from 2016
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>>129385179
do you have any data on how many people got questioned? because of the 72% im guessing not many people got surveyed in Poland
not many people=incorrect data
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>>129385387
10500 respondents overall

http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/06/07/euroskepticism-beyond-brexit/pm_2016-06-07_brexit-01/
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>>129386412
it's 2017
what 2 years?
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>>129385179
A LOT has changed in one year.

>>129386583
Look at this crazy son of s bitch talkin' to ghosts and shit.
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>>129386694
Anything to back that statement up with?
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>>129386799
Just a large trend I've seen in many people. Poles/Hungarians kind of have a love-hate relationship with the EU, as it gives them many benefits (such as free travel throughout the EU)—but A LOT of them are extremely upset about the massive hoards of mostly fake refugees.
Go talk to some Poles or Hungarians about the "refugee crisis" IRL or online and you'll likely hear the same things I have.
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>>129387356
Anecdotal data collected from /pol/ is meaningless. Most Germans and Swedes here are far-right even though their countries generally aren't
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>>129387664
I'm not talking about /pol/. Go talk to them anywhere else online or in-person and you'll hear the same shit.
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>>129387846
I talk to them more often than you do in the US. plenty of Poles and Hungarians here. happy af to be able to come work and study here with no problem.
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>>129379273
So the European Union IS trying to become a single country?
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>All based countries

You mean all broke countries, right?
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>>129357870
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>>129357870

How the Eurobarometer Blurs the Line
between Research and Propaganda

http://www.mpifg.de/pu/mpifg_dp/dp15-6.pdf
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>>129357870
People here generally like EU.
The reason is they like the concept of EU, not its current incarnation. The idea to have all the European countries cooperating, free trade between them, no border crossings which take a lot of your time, etc.
They obviously don't like all the leftists who have a lot of influence in the EU right now, but they either believe it can be changed, or that ultimately it doesn't matter, because if they try to pressure Poland into doing some leftist shit, we can always just say no, like with the refugees.
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i would say only leechers like it then i saw grease.
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>>129397091
Good luck with that !

Stay strong. Some germans support you.
Stay with ur tschechbros.
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Free money from faggot westerners and they don't have to take Muzzies.

WIN WIN thank you western faggots xd
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>>129357870
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>>129357870
The let in and force refugees with out proper checking them if they are terrorists!
P.s most of them are always adult men
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>>129389664
They are trying has hard as they can :D
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>>129359487
> Be Greece
> Join EU
> Print Tons of Euro
> Take Down Greece and Europe as well
Thanks Greece Government :)
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>>129357870
Because it does not support my version of European ethnostate name after a women raped by a flying bull of Anatolia.
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>>129359902
pay Debts first please :)

> Thinks his country is great
> decides to hire people who print money and dosent know how economy works, Cheek Em
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>>129360498
In my view of EU

Pro:
Free Trade Deals
Free Moment
More Support
Everyone is friendly (country's to other country's)
More secure if WW3 breaks out

Cons:
Forced Refugees without proper check
No real borders
too many people :(
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>>129390570
The end, kek
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>>129357870
Maybe the reason EU is so bad at current state is because of Germany? maybe we should kick out Germany because those cucks in Germany want all the refugees let into Europe and everyone else not so much
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>>129402116
>>129402270
Just don't forget to pay the bill and enjoy your brexit :D
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>>129403903
thx m8
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>>129397091
Dont forget all work your Polish brethren do across your border.
The truth is, Poland is one of the countries that get the most economic benefits from free travel within the EU.
Dont get me wrong i would rather have Polish workers as i would have ''Syrian'' moneygrabbers.
I am also in favour with the help western europe gave eastern europe when the commies got out.

But the EU is just a corrupt attempt to create a European country.
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>>129357870


here the stats, before OP falsified them
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