Possible New Wall Design to BTFO Libs and Spics

mexicans will steel the solar panels.
good job drumpf.

first for no one here seems to understand how electricity works, or physics at that.

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>>129355750
Triggered leftists everywhere

>>129355750
Liberals will still find an excuse to hate it!

>>129355971
Thought you were Greece for a moment.

What actually happens there?

>>129355750
Couldn't the power be used to electrify the wall?

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>>129355750
>Post thoughts and argue.
bottom section of the barrier needs to be electrified

Damn, this will get liberals to go berserk, if they want it down, they'd be destroying green energy

>>129355750

This will be great for the Mexican black market economy.

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>>129355896
Wait- what's wrong with that wall?

>>>129355807
Wheres Barron?

>>129355750
>it pays for itself because mexico won't be able to once the wall is up
Trump 2020

before thunderfoot went all virtue signaly on us, he actually did a strong breakdown on the non-horizontal positioning of solar panels and their radius of effectiveness. Anybody savy on solar energy care to comment?

>>129355750
>this afraid of brown people
>building high tech walls

lol

i like it.
like one of those humane animal traps

>>129356103
kek

>>129355750
The part of this that's most interesting to me is the use of the energy to pay off the wall and turning the project into a private funded investment opportunity. Thus bipassing congressional approval

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I personally think that there will be a regular wall to be built, and in the towns/cities on the border, it will be added on top. There's no reason this couldn't be place onto the top of a wall, given that it's thick enough to support it, or simply designed in the areas needed to accommodate the extra solar shit.

>>129356103
Fucking kek, please make this happen.

>>129356532

people think the panels are made of lava and that they can be used to electrify the fence and that it will be impossible to climb because of the way its curved and liberals aren't allowed to hate it because it has solar panels because apparently all liberals are braindead(inb4 >implying they aren't) and are easily persuaded with stupid shit like attaching a solar panel to a stupid, expensive, needlessly complex and utterly ineffective wall makes it totally fine.

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>>129355750
Use the power generated to electrify the fence

>>129357040

Please riddle me this.

What path does the sun take during the day?

>>129356891
>be afraid of the sea
>build dams

lol

>Public Private partnership.

Jews getting the profits from the wall. Fuck off.

Make the wall public owned and great.

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>>129355750
Key word "possible."

Given you only have a limited budget to work with, this couldn't ever possibly be funded due to its high initial cost. Maybe in some areas, but I very much doubt this will scale the length of the entire border wall.

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>>129357065
>it will never happen

>>129357114
East to west. What's your point?

>>129356103
sounds like a no brainer

>>129356884
This.


I thought that solar panels weren't that good.
They're expensive and in order to actually make money out of it, several several years need to pass.


Think of this for a second. If Solar panels and sun energy were so good, then why aren't we covering everything in solar panels nowadays?

>>129357285

>American education

This is stuff 8 year old kids learn here and you dont know.

>>129355750
>>129356977
>1989 mile border wall
>"green" because solar panels
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>>129357065
>Brockpuppet reductio ad absurdum
Brockpuppets must read the sticky before posting.
>>124205675
Thank you.

>>129355750
I heard that Pence is on the fence about this idea

>>129355750
Believing FOX NEWS on anything related to Trump.

GTFO here dumb fuck Trump cuck.

>>129357065
But no one has ever said that the wall was going to be electrified
If you watched the video, the energy produced by the panels would be added to the electric grid.
Also
>Utterly ineffective
please tell how the wall will be ineffective?

>>129357421
Enlighten me

>>129357482
>1989 mile border wall blocking the movement of all terrestrial, flightless animals
>green

>>129357114
>He can't into angles

>>129357370
It's the same issue with the Saudis
Since the 70's they claimed they'd make a solar farm out of the Arabian desert

>>129357233
watch the video. It will be primarily in towns and cities along the border, spanning 30-ish miles out from them to take advantage of the energy infrastructure for efficient transportation. It wouldn't span the entire border. The energy it produces would be sold to Mexico to help cover some of the cost, which is better than none of the cost, which would mean we'd have to levy taxes and go through congress and shit


>>129357421
Explain why this kind of solar collector wouldn't work

>>129357421
I know what you're implying but I'm waiting for the argument to come out of your mouth so I can address it. I assume nothing

>>129357370

>Think of this for a second. If Solar panels and sun energy were so good, then why aren't we covering everything in solar panels nowadays?

2 reasons.

Number one. Having them on your own house and having a battery are the most efficient ways to get energy for households. Since most countries that can afford panels, or are "earth conscious", are in northern latitudes, this becomes pointless in cold regions (especially in the winter).

The second reason is that coal/nuclear/gas/hydro have a firm grip in the energy market and wont let go.

>>129357572
It will only ever get energy in the winter, idiot.

>>129355750
there is not gonna be solar panels on the wall, i can guarantee you that. just another hype the press passes around.
this is not gonna happen in a thousand years, with any wall ever. its unpractical, inefficient, misguides the whole primary purpose and also makes costs explode unproportionally (not only panels but the extra electric infrastructure and maintenance). also trump personally 'hates' solar, he thinks its a nice but sligjtly retarded tech that doesnt even pay off in the long run.

tl;dr: no.

source: sound judgment+common sense

>>129357421
>The sun's light will only shine opposite the direction the earth's rotation
>The sun's Ray's are not ambient
Brockpuppet education at its finest. That has little bearing the situation, little Brockpuppet. But I suppose whatever HuffPo or Buzzfeed journalist fed you this insipid argument suffers from the usual logic deficit that plagues your kind.

Here is the 4d chess:
The wall will be protected by some sort of environmental regulation because of the solar panels meaning that the next president won't be able to tear it down easily

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>>129357370

The thing the wall uses is geothermal solar, it doesn't need any of that fancy silicone technology, it's just metal mirrors heating fluid running through a pipe, and it's only viable in very sunny places.

>>129356891
speaking of which, aren't Dutch babies already minority in Netherlands?

>>129357640
Mexicans can fly, anon. It just takes twelve burritos

>>129357698
>>129357572
>>129357664
>>129357694

The sun takes a path E-W and reaches it's Zenith SOUTH, never facing North during the day. That means that youre forced to put the panels on the SOUTHERN BORDER.

Get it now?

The wall will never be built.

>>129357923
That's pretty clear from the proposal...

/pol/ was talking about this exact thing back when Trump met w/ elon musk.
/pol/ is always right

>>129357065
>t. Butthurt libtard

>>129357928
Quit being so anti-semitic

>>129358011

You still dont get it?

Who lives South of the border?

>>129357923
And?

>>129355896
Neigther do you, unless you want to enlighten us.

>>129358060
And?

>>129358060
South Americans?

>>129355750
Trump wins again

>>129357847
You're worse than foolish. You're arrogantly foolish. Explain your argument

>>129357923
>he thinks that a massive solar company would spend billions constructing miles of solar oil heaters that will face the wrong way

When are you going to actually make an argument? They will simply face the sun and adjust in slight increments. You know, just like all of them currently do?

>>129357923
Although efficiency may be reduced a bit, the panels, if angled properly will still work.

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>>129355750
>we could sell the energy back to Mexico so they would be paying for it

>>129358074

hes saying it will be very easy for mexicans to vandalize the wall, on top of the fact that to do maintenance on the wall, workers will have to be on the mexico side

>>129357923
Yea, and? It looks like in the image the panels are in a hard to reach space. Any spics want to go through the trouble to get a few dollars worth of panels at the risk of falling to their deaths or getting 360 scoped can go for it.

>>129357928
yes it will

>>129355750
this must have liberals like DiCapiro fucking turning inside. support illegals or save the climate.

>>129358267
>>129358125
>>129358074

>they still dont get it.

If this ever gets constructed (because it wont), panels will keep disappearing overnight lads. Get it now? Panels are quite valuable and Mexicans will gladly help themselves.

>>129358031
And now that Elon has left the advisory council all butthurt about paris, he will miss out on the bidding opportunity

>>129355750
Fuck yeaaa

>>129356065
Here >>129357111

>>129355750
israeli tech for tunnels when?

>>129358291
The wall wil likely not be built smack dab on the border

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>leave the wall to me

>>129357065
Jesus Christ get your punctuation sorted out.

>>129358422
>thinks the panels won't be guarded.

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>>129355865
We're going to need some training, will you be willing to come and teach us your ways master Cigany?

>>129358291

Glad that some Americans can think.

>>129358320

>he thinks that an act of war is allowed over a couple of panels

Leaf please...

>>129356103
If you use a smart AI controlled system that detects human movement nearby the wall it can electrify only a portion of the wall and the rest can be powering US and Mexico.

(this must be a hidden feature or it will just be exploited by faggot libs and mexishits who try to short the wall out by camping there)

>>129358422
That points already been addressed. This faggot thinks he's so smart but is actually autistic.

>>129358554

And you think Americans will be allowed to shoot over a border for something thats happening on the other side?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>129356103
we have a visa 4 U

>>129358554

if we have to guard the fucking panels then why not just cut out the middleman and just have fucking GUARDS. jesus christ. spend all the money you WOULD have used on panels and make the wall easier to guard. human defense > static defense.

>>129357640
Hey, don't be rude to mexicans

>>129358635
Americans own Mexico, they can do whatever they want. They could probably tell Mexico's special forces to guard the wall, too.

>>129358559
>Act of war
>Boarder patrol people illegally on US soil stealing us property

Pic one

>>129355997
From the initial impressions from twitter I have seen:

>>"SOLAR PANELS AREN'T EFFICIENT ON A WALL"
>>"THE MEXICANS WILL BREAK THEM!"
>>"WE WOULD NEED A GIANT CABLE TO GET THE ELECTRICITY SOMEWHERE USEFUL!"

I have even seen a few idiots say solar is not efficient/useful.

They're very conflicted.

>>129358557
>tfw pablo puts you in your place
good shit mexibro

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>>129355750

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>>129358532
Is this porkistan or india?

>>129358422
>panels

They are giant metal slabs that get extremely hot. They reflect light at an angle towards a tube that holds liquid salt, or an oil. This then boils water and spins a turbine. To steal that would require them to not only reach the top, but then they'd have to know how to disassemble it, and then they would only have a slab of metal that probably costs a few hundred dollars.

All of this, in addition to them being guarded. Not an argument.
>>129358471
thx

>>129355750
fuckin genius
solar panel goes out it auto reports back to hq as
a breech fuck
mad man

>>129355750
>muh wall
>still believing your senile idol promises

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>I WILL IMMEDIATELY BEGIN CONSTRUCTION OF THE WALL
>They don't even know what color its going to be or how many slides they plan to put on it

>>129358806
>>>"THE MEXICANS WILL BREAK THEM!"

wtf I hate mexican border climbers now

>>129358422
Nah, if they are willing to invest that much tech into a wall they could easily incorporate sensors to detect illegals. Honestly, it'd be better to put up sensor stations with solar panels rather than a full blown wall and invest in rapid response DHS.

>>129357065
>apparently all liberals are braindead(inb4 >implying they aren't) and are easily persuaded with stupid shit like attaching a solar panel to a stupid, expensive, needlessly complex and utterly ineffective wall
They are.
They absolutely are. They build and support fucking solar roads. These people are INSANE.

>>129358689
As an avid RTS player I'm inclined to agree, but static defenses can't be bribed by cartels like guards can

>>129355750
>he still thinks they'll actually build that wall
>believes Trump that Mexico will pay for it
>just like NAFTA would be renegotiated and China would be labeled a currency manipulator

you're so gullible

Would the tile guy cum over the panels or would this be to stressful (for him)?

>>129355750
What's to stop beaner cartels from shooting up the panels like cunts?

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>>129358782

>>129358635
Where did I imply they would be shot? Are you implying a criminal would be able to climb a wall and uninstall an anchored solar panel (almost certainly physically attached to the mount) completely undetected on a regularly patrolled border? Have you ever heard of non lethal riot control gear?

>>129358931
Bahahaha you are still in Mexico hahaha get fucked by your own stupidity.

>>129358785

>on US soil

If the panels are on the southern border... Wouldnt that be Mexican soil?

You really make me laugh leaf.

>>129358782

>Americans own Mexico

Glad to see that German education showing promise.

>>129358883

Step 1:
>go at night when the desert goes to almost 0
Step 2:
>be Mexican with big ass hammer
Step 3:
>Smash big "slab" with hammer into smaller pieces and take pieces with you

>>129356884
Not much to say other than top shelf solar arrays are around 30% effective where as chinese stuff is anywhere from 6-10% and are made with cheaply refined silica.

The concave array permits a more optimal emr absorbtion irrespective of seasional (earth axial tilt) as opposed to a flat/fixed panel array. Also with a concave array, there is more surface area.

Just don't tell CNN that the battery requirements (the raw materials needed) absolutely fuck up ecosystems.

>>129359091
isn't the tile guy american? he will need to cross the border to cum on them.

>>129358891

>break one panel on one side of the wall
>jump on the opposite side while border patrol is responding to alert

>>129359110
Drones shooting them back for public property damage

>>129358931
What's it like living in a country with the second most murders on earth? Only a country with an active civil war outpaces you.

>>129355750
US elites fucking over citizens (who foot the upfront bill), foreign citizens (by competing against their own utility services, causing a further elimination of Mexican jobs), and the only people that will actually profit from this scheme or the business owners.

>>129358806
>"THE MEXICANS WILL BREAK THEM!"

Then don't put the panels on the shitty side lmfao

>>129359185
Shit, he's right guys!

Now we only need to invent something for seeing in the dark to prevent that...

>>129358689
If we lived in a time prior to civilization your tribe would have been wiped out because you don't understand the basic benefits of fortification.

even large scale solar cant compete with oil/coal/gas/nuclear, it's in its core design very inefficient and has a horrible long amortisation period of 15-20years (an average good one is 3-5years or lower). solar is a nice addition to a diversifed energy structure but cant compete without government subsidies. you also need 100-150x the amount of workers to achieve the same output coal/oil/gas/nuclear gets.
plus that its heavily dependent on weather, you cant react with it to demand spikes and if the weather is shit it produces nothing or gets even completely broken in worst case.

>>129357075

T H I S

Also if its electrified and they cut it, you know Exactly where its been sabotaged. A Drone can be en-route to that area with a hellfire missile in no time.

>>129359231

On sovereign Mexican airspace?

Hardly.

>>129359141

You really dont understand the concept of borders do you? Ironic really considering that the wall represents a clear physical separation of nations.

You are not allowed to act on foreign soil, that includes shooting Mexicans with a watergun.

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>>129359211
never underestimate LOVE

>>129359003
>but static defenses can't be bribed by cartels like guards can

gosh maybe we should start THERE instead of with our stupid tesla wall

>>129359381
>put the panels on the opposite side of the sun

Brilliant

>>129359031

I can visualize it:

>Trump: China is awesome, it has offered to sent a 10/10 qt to suck the dick of every American male.

> Libs: LOL HE'S NOT LABELING THEM A CURRENCY MANIPULATOR

>>129359404

The night refers to the previous argument of panels being too hot to steal.

Im sure your NVG will help you watch in anger as the Mexicans (on sovereign Mexican soil) steal free panels while you cant interact with them.

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>>129358422
>austrian half-human thinks his retarded point is so clever he has to condescendingly develop it over several posts, just to have it torn apart by people with actual competence.

>>129358060
>put solar panels on top
>can't reach it without climbing the electrified wall
Wow really made me think. Unless you want to put solar panels under the wall. Fucking stupid Australians.

>>129359631
>only Mexico has sun

>>129359497
"Hello? 911? Yeah, im a mexican trying to cross the border and someone SHOT at me!"

>>129357847
>sun goes away during summer
That must explain why plants are all dead during spring. Oh wait.

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>>129359650
>pajeet living in Canada thinks hi's comments are relevant
Fuck off streetshitter.

>>129359185
>the border wall can't be built 5ft behind the border
>the border will only be patrolled during
the day.
>thinks breaking a solar panel to sell doesn't destroy the market value.

You're obviously trolling or extremely foolish. Sort yourself out.

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>>129359657

>put solar panels on top
>electrified fence

Youre gonna use the energy produced by the solar panels to power the fence so that the solar panels cant be stolen?

>>129359185
Step 1:
>go at night when the desert goes to almost 0
Step 2:
>be Mexican with big ass hammer
Step 3:
>get detected by border patrol as you get close to the fence/ set up ladder
Step 4:
>do essentially no damage to slab of metal, not smashing it, and then get captured
Step 5:
>realize the few dents you may have put into the dish made no difference when they can be easily replaced, and even if left alone it would still work as intended

I'm getting a feeling you aren't thinking. Here's your last (You)

>>129359642
Bitch please, you must have gotten a couple licks with the stupid stick.

>>129359497

> LOL STOOPID DRUMPF THE MEXICANS WILL SHOOT THE PANELS

> NO WTF YOU CAN'T JUST SHOOT BACK WHAT ABOUT BORDERS?

>>129359961

>and then get captured

Pray do tell... how exactly are you gonna capture Mexicans, if you just built a big ass wall?

>>129355750
problem with that is what these solar panels sticks on the Mexican side

>>129360041

Who said anything about shooting panels you silly island-nigger?

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>>129359642
>>129359497

>Implying that the border isn't a border unless there is a wall.
>Implying that the new wall won't be built with a buffer zone allowing for it to be serviced.
>Implying that your shitposting is somehow logic.

Autistic I mean Austrian education.

>>129360243

So youre telling me that the US is giving back 10 meters of Mexican clay along the border?

Seems fair.

>>129360108
>because sun light comes from Mexican side

>>129358291
>workers will have to be on the mexico side

This isn't a Road Runner cartoon, my fellow burger. They don't literally draw a line on the ground and one side is Mexico and the other is the US. It's placed many hundreds of feet inside the US territory. We own both sides.

Typically a light-duty fence runs near the actual border, with warnings that anything in the zone between the marked border and the wall is a patrolled area. Hopefully a kill zone.

...though, yes, putting anything on value facing the beans is asking for a disaster. They can throw rocks and their own feces at it. However-- it forces the liberals to admit it to use that as an argument.

We're still playing chess here, son.

>climb over it at night
TRUMP BTFO
*inhales air*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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>>129355750
There are many problems with this design, in >regards to the solar element:
the wall will be stationary, meaning it cannot track the sun throughout the day. A curved structure would is better than flat, but still at no point would the panels be optimally positioned, resulting in some quite dramatic efficiency losses.
>In regards to the wall
While a tall enough wall/fence of any kind would be enough to deter amateurs, human traffickers could probably find a way through/around/under/over it. In terms of cost benefit for a wall, the ridiculously inflated price of a solar panel component would make such a wall a bad investment for the actual protection is provides
>In terms of trumps policy towards american protectionism
east/south asia (especially china) is where most solar panels are produced for various reasons, so there are two possibilities, either trump hands American taxpayer money hand over fist to Chinese manufacturers or he spends significantly more money of buying American made solar panels (and also time, as the demand would to so staggeringly large American solar manufacturers, wouldn't be even close to reaching it in a timely fashion.)

tldr:
>will produce little energy compared to other possible investments
>Will be largely ineffective at keeping people out
>cost a shit tonne and that money would be traveling straight out of the american economy

You'd be better off spending money on expanding ice so it can do a better job on tracking down people who overstay visa's.

after all most illegal immigrants come to America legally at first.

>>129359497
How old are you really? This isn't attempted adhominum. Your arguments are extremely juvenile. You really think the wall can't be placed a few feet north of the border thus any Mexican who touches the wall has crossed the border illegally?

He'll Doesn't even have to go that far. By attempting to steal US property they already have granted ICE the justification to arrest them.

>>129359942
first of all, the energy is only used when a Mexican is being zapped

second of all, this is a good method of preventing Mexicans from crossing

third of all, the energy can power lasers to shoot Mexicans

>>129359631

>border faces north and south
>sun rises in east and sets west.

Jesus fuck. You're retarded.

>>129360397
No dumbass, we're just gonna build the wall ten feet on our side. Probably wont be the only wall either, with multiple high barbed wire fences on either side of the main, and accesses between each.

You have got to be retarded my man.

>>129360501
This is the only post I've read so far with actual arguments. Though the bar was not set high.

>>129360540

Ok. Ill answer one last question for you lads before I have to go.

>You really think the wall can't be placed a few feet north of the border thus any Mexican who touches the wall has crossed the border illegally?

Lets assume the wall will be built (which it wont). Do you honestly think there will be border guards every 50 meters waiting all day/night to capture illegal immigrants (on the other side of the wall)?

Listen to yourself hombre.

>>129360551

>first of all, the energy is only used when a Mexican is being zapped

Made me chuckle.

>second of all, this is a good method of preventing Mexicans from crossing

Were not talking about crossing Mexicans, were talking about the solar panel issue.

>third of all, the energy can power lasers to shoot Mexicans

Would be funny.

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>>129360576
underated post

>>129359896
>mestizo subhuman tries to one up a white man
There's a reason why you were raped constantly in your mexican prisons, juan. It widened your asshole just enough to be a goo drug smuggler. Stick to that, stick to what your good at with pride.

>>129360495

what you've just done is explained why yet another wall is completely unfeasible. instead of spending all this cash on a giant expensive monstrosity why don't we just hire more people to patrol the wall?

>>129360632

So youre telling me that youre gonna build barbed wire fences on Mexican soil?

If you want that many layers, youll have to give back like 30m of Mexican clay all along the border.

>>129360501
Like I said earlier, it is possible for them to place this on top of a foundation that is perhaps 20ft, the total combined structure being 30 - 35ft. The energy efficiency is a bummer, but even if the revenue of, say, 200 miles doesn't cover the cost of the whole wall, it's certainly better than having 0 return on investment.

Otherwise, it is an incredible way to possibly garner support if it ends up having to go through congress since Dems love their green shit. It's a good political tool in that regard.

>>129360962
Jeeps

>>129360551
TACOLaser, let's build it

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phag

>>129355750
Could you not just truck through the wall? There's a reason why they were traditionally made of something heavy and hard, not a glorified flimsy wire fence. If there is at least some kind of shorter concrete wall behind it that is just high enough to prevent vehicles from busting through, that might work.

>>129361306
>Dems love their green shit. It's a good political tool in that regard

no its not, because a thread full of average joes have been able to completely dismiss this wall as a pile of shit over the course of a few hours. people aren't as stupid as you want them to be.

>>129355865
It isn't panels. The design is supposed be see through fence like material. The panels will be in the mesh

>>129357065
>Implying you wouldn't get a return on your investment with solar energy yeild

>>129360576
>doesn't know the earth is tilted

>>129361491
Shes never gonna be president. At least take that redpill.

>>129361628
>The panels will be in the mesh

yeah lets make an entire border wall out of some experimental bullshit that might not even work.

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>>129356103

I wonder who was behind this latest development...

>>129360576
Actually, south is a pretty good direction for solar panels to be facing if you're in the northern hemisphere.

>>129360501
Coming from a brit, makes sense.

I live near the border, ive been through the checkpoints, a big ass wall is exactly what we need. The vast majority dont come in fucking tunnels or boats or planes or overstayed visas. They travel with coyotes who take their money and either fuck them over in the desert, or they throw rugs over the current barbed wire fence and climb it.

You know what they do? Besides helicopters and ice. They drag a fucking tire behind an suv along the fenceline. To smooth the dirt. To look for footprints.

Ice acts after the fact. We need a fucking wall. Doesnt even need to be solar. We need a big fucking wall. Don't believe me? Come on down to old el paso, and we'll see how quickly your tune changes guero.

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>>129361552
A thick enough wire fence can actually resist impacts more effectively than a brick wall can.
from Newtonian mechanics:

impluse=force*time=change in momentum

therefore force=(chance in momentum over time)
therefore a fence which flexes during the impact, increasing the time experiences the same energy over a longer period and can resist more effectively.

>>129361491
>Someone spent valuable time of their lives drawing that

Really Zim-Zams my Trayvons

>>129361107
Do i need to draw a diagram for you?

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>>129355750
IT'S SOLAR POWER! 6352626352825D CHESS MASTER!!

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>>129358782
>Americans own Mexico
not anymore

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/germany-s-merkel-talks-trade-human-rights-in-mexico-1.3452484

>>129361955
This

North face of any anything has at least some shade at any part of the day

North side of a mountain is cold and snowy

South facing slopes are rocks rubble and hot

>>129356103
>>129361909
jej

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>>129357640
No! Jump good.

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>>129362060
Well, I'll agree it would be better off if the solar components were completely removed.

After all, that shit would take millennia to pay for itself.

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>>129355750

That's a horrible idea. Bad case of mission creep. Keep the wall as simple as possible. Talking about solar power is a good way to troll the left, but Trump shouldn't take it serious.

>>129361603
Tell me, without memes, exactly why solar collectors on a wall would be a bad idea as compared to a regular wall.

Currently I think it's better (in small amounts, so not the ENTIRE border) than a standard wall because:
It will generate some revenue, offsetting costs
It would confuse libtards
It can bypass congress completely
And, climbing over it would be more a hassle than standard brick and barbed wire. + It would be guarded like a normal wall

Do tell.

>>129362148
Except the truck is inserting more energy into the equation constantly and because the wire fence can weaken at many different small points, its integrity will lessen as it incurs more wire breaks and damage. Hell, those panels are going to be sitting on the fence posts which if destroyed will do further damage to the fence itself as it crashes down and pulls the wires with it.

With a concrete wall you need a whole lot more mass to stop a truck going at the same speed, but simple reinforced concrete without silly solar panels on top is a lot cheaper anyway so you can make it thick enough to just crush the truck trying to ram through (not even the border hoppers are that stupid to try though).

>>129360501
>Doesn't track the sun
That's why it's shaped like a parabola. Not all parts of the wall are expected to get sun at all times. If you've ever been down there you'll experience sun like no Brit ever has.

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That border wall looks...

>>129363021
Also because the shape makes it impossible to use ladders or ropes to climb over.

>>129362405
It's like the Zimmerman telegram all over again.

>>129363021
Fellow Texas Anon here. There's a reason not everyone can make it in Texas, our summers are like the face of the fucking sun and the border has winters that are at least spring in northern states.

It's sun all the fucking time

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BUILD THE WALL

BUILD THE WALL

BUILD THE WALL

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>>129361038
Why are indians such gigantic faggots?

>>129355750
Would rather prefer a concrete wall with solar panels on top instead.

>>129363917
This has proven fake news

>>129363593
>Texas
>deep Texas buying up land from mexicans that are fleeing back to mexico
>buying all their farm land at deep discounts
>morning 90 degrees
>after noon 100 degrees
>night 88 degrees
>humidity always in the 80% range
>Spring- hot
>Summer- hot
>Fall-hot
>Winter- hot

Last year Tx didn't even have a fucking winter season it was just hot. Literally was only 1 week of cold weather then back to normal.

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>>129362455
At least it'll go through, unlike brexit. Why don't you focus on bettering your own countrymen, hmm?

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>>129364252
its not fake news that the cartel uses automatic weapons and owns the majority of the government and law

its not fake news that the cartel is responsible for 80% of drug/arms/human trafficing into the USA

pretty sure they are a lot more dangerous to citizens

>>129364309
Yep-Panhandle and North DFW get below freezing occasionally but central Texas southward wears shorts all year long

>>129357155
>Afraid of lions
>build cages

lol

>>129362793
regardless of what you think, the current plan seems to be making the entire wall out of panels, and thats what im against.

second, i legitimately don't think the wall will have that much output, certainly not enough to help cover the cost of the wall

I also don't believe that simply putting solar panels on something is enough to 'confuse liberals' as if they were fucking scooby doo villains, let alone will it help 'bypass congress'

ill give it to you that the currently proposed design will certainly be harder to climb over but if YOU were trying to escape your hellhole of a country don't you think you'd be able to work out a way of getting over a few inclines?

everything this wall hopes to accomplish could be done simply by increasing the amount of border patrols we had. we don't need an Apple iWall with laser beams, death fields and cyborg dogs, which is what trump is going to continue to propose because it gets idiots excited.

>>129358593
Ever tried stealing copper wire from a live transformer? You can provide power and kill intruders without any sort of smart system, just need to position the circuit right.

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>>129364252

This is ingenues

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>>129365072
Thanks buddy, I was looking to add to my hit list.

>>129355750
I like it, seems very functional at getting wetbacks out and generating electricity, but I question it's durability though.

>>129365404

at what point was it ok for people to post shit like this on 4chan without being bullied?

>>129355750
People will chuck cans of paint and other crap onto the curved panel surface to block the energy gathering potential.

>>129365072
That's a pretty based Mexican judge actually. If the girl is shit in bed it is not fair that you need to do jail time for it.

>>129364786
I didn't imply that it's a literal confusion - they won't be frothing at the mouth, unable to function anymore, but they do always, in fact, want more alternative energies, and this provides exactly that, in addition to the protection that a wall provides, making it a win win win. If you watched the video, it would be maybe only a few hundred miles of panels at the top, which is better than nothing. This provides a source of income that generates a small amount, but it's something that brick and wire cannot do.

Next, I acknowledge that illegals will try to find another way, but that's what we want - their primary way of entering is literally walking through. Wall happens. Now, they have to rely on tunnels that can take forever to make, which can still be detected and destroyed. This would already lessen the amount of illegals coming through, and a solar collector would be extremely inconvenient to climb over because of heat during the day, and extra patrols at night. If they were dedicated to making a true wall, it would only make sense to have extensive surface detection.

Finally, I understand that more patrols is better, but you are overstating the complexity of this project. It's simply a wall with solar collectors near towns and cities, with regular wall for the rest. ICE will obviously get more funding to compensate, as they have already.

>>129355750
Nkt very green. It's still going to disrupt animal migration. Inb4 Mexicans are animals.

>>129355750

>still zero funding


You bben cucked senpai. All the fancy 3d models will never change that.

>>129358635
to be fair... im fairly sure thats legal unless the Mexican government complains.

>>129361786
>The development process for ANY project according to you
>1. Think of a concept
>2. Launch final version
Come on man

>>129365922
>Be spic
>Be poor af
>Have money for paint

Nigger, please.

>>129365804
At what point did we think England's opinion mattered?

>>129360501
>east/south asia (especially china) is where most solar panels are produced
Those solar panels aren't in the plan. It's just reflective metal for this, no rare earths involved.

>>129359185
>make eco-friendly wall
>retarded Mexicans with big ass hammers smash the panels/mirrors
>this only proves that the Mexicans are a bunch of subhumans who shouldn't be let in America
It's a win-win situation you spastic.


>>129359497
>wall has to be built exactly on the fucking border
That's enough, I've had enough of your stupidity, you retarded Austrian. Hitler is disappointed in you. Get cancer and die.

>>129366363
Only Nigel

>>129366666
/thread

>>129366666
Ya blew it kid

>>129366666
>BASED NIGE
BASED NIGE
>BASED NIGE
BASED NIGE
>BASED NIGE
BASED NIGE
>BASED NIGE
BASED NIGE
>BASED NIGE

>>129356891
>not taking advantage of things

>>129360501
>>129360845
> muh plebit tunnel argument
sigh

>>129355750
Mexico has seen an explosion of anti-american radicals due to Trump and his bad diplomacy

People are going to come north and smash the panels by throwing rocks at it or shooting it etc. Unlike some simple concrete or steel it's an expensive component that's easy to see and destroy

>>129357065
>expensive, needlessly complex and utterly ineffective
like most liberal policies?

>>129357488
You don't get points for posting like you do in /r/politics, kiddo.

>>129357370

Solar panels are pretty good. I have them on my roof, but I live in Henderson, south of Las Vegas. My Desert Mother and Sun Father bestow me with their blessings.

>>129359185
Here, you fucking autistic inbred fuck:

>build the wall a few kilometers from the border on US soil
>have normal patrols on the border
>no Mexican in his right mind would go a few km inside US territory only to steal or break some solar panels

Kill yourself

>>129367382

how about you take out the solar panel part and just keep the normal patrols part. based on your logic that's all we need, the panels are nothing but a target.

>>129367382
>a few km

1 or even half a kilometer would be enough. Anyone even near the wall can still technically be removed for being on U.S. soil illegally. They'd still probably have to indicate the exact border line though. Not sure how, but it doesn't have to be that large.

>>129367708
respond to my other post faggio

>>129355750
>that unbiased reporting
>"this is genius"

as if you need a fucking wall to use solar panels. why not just attatch the panels to existing structures.

>>129367862
I'm trying to appeal to retards that think Mexicans would just go in the night and mess with the wall to spite Trump.

>>129367708
>but muh targets
Yeah, dude, I would totally go through 5-10 km of patrolled area and back only to smash a few solar panels

They're not even solar panels. They're mirrors pointing the sun's rays at water tanks.
You'd have to be fucking retarded to go inside US soil to try and smash a water tank which is more than likely protected by at least video cameras.
The moment you get detected you'll get caught by the patrols behind you.

jews

>>129368645
Have you ever lived near the border? Why dont you shut the fuck up you obviously dont live over here or know them or seen the shit they pull. Quit trying to appeal your idiocy to people.

By the way im an expert on your country. I never lived there or seen it but you know.. i know it all.

>>129355750
this reminds me of these futuristic concepts of all sorts of things that will never be built because they are not financially viable.

It's also pretty ironic that Trump is now something that he clearly doesn't give a fuck about- green engery, to try to save his failed wall project.

>>129355865
I imagine solar panel will be on top of the wall.
I think the wall would be something more like 3rd generation Berlin wall which relies on sensors not just the wall itself.

wtf I hate solar panel now

>>129355750

I love it...

The left will have to cannibalize the environmentalist elements in their party if they oppose this wall.

>>129361491
Putin aint circumcised you fag

>>129371908
?
Most people's penises look like that. Weirdo, lol.

>>129359940
He's just butthurt that Mexico isn't going to pay for the wall, with their sunlight.

>>129372125
*is going to

>>129368645

Solar panels are much more durable than you think, and can't take the beating of a few rocks, weather etc. and still be effective. Calling them mirrors or glass on a fish tank are just bad analogies.

>>129371908
Cut dicks have a huge scar across the middle, that drawing doesn't have one. Or the artist is just bad at drawing dicks. Trump and Pence are cut though as they're raging Judeophiles

>>129357889
Awesome

Any other arguments to BTFO liberals and oil cucks against the wall?

>>129357889

>geothermal solar
>flag

>>129364755
>afraid of criminals
>build jails

lol

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>>129372287
this is Haram to paint it this way
you are not a human if you have no foreskin

>>129372966
holy fuck seems I hacked 4chan
..again

>>129373073
soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnTW6fZz-1E

>>129366947
It's a shame that people would start messing with it because even putting aside the fact that it's a border wall it would drastically help in the alternative energy field with how massive it is (putting aside the massive time you would need to dedicate to ensure the majority of each cluster was working properly)

>>129356405
34D kekkers

What a clusterfuck of a thread, I'm out

>>129357889
Also gets hot enough to burn spics

Going from wetbacks to greenbacks, I love it.

>>129364309
Whatcha doin' with all that land, hoss?

>>129356532
>Incase
Good taste

Stupid idea.
A wall should be strong, cheap, durable.
No complications.

>>129358782
>Americans own Mexico
Mohammed pls
Mexico cant even control itself, what makes you think the US can?

>>129361086
Because the wall is a humane deterrent.

We don't even need a fence if we simply show total severity and zero mercy to illegals, but those aren't our values, Goy.

>>129355865
security would patrol the perimeter.

>>129357889
You need to convert that thermal energy with mechanical systems that must be maintained. Solar really only needs labor invested when the panel as degraded or a mixirat tries to chew through the wires sneaking into the republic.

Solar makes sense. It can power all the sensors we attach to the border with decentralized distribution. You can disconnect a single section and it won't propagate along the fence.

As any conductor is also an antenna this entire fence can double as a radar system.

>>129357065
>I think the panels are made of lava

Well consider my record corrected bro ck

>>129373073
dayum

>>129355750
Rock climbers see this and laugh. You climb the mesh to get on the solar. Glass is great for adhesion with rubber so you can just run up the panel grab the top of the fence and climb down the mesh on the other side.

You need a steel plate skirt across the top of the lower section that spans 3 feet so no one can grab the edge of the solar section by climbing to it.

Then you need to curve the leading edge of the solar downwards so you can't maintain a grip of you manage to reach the edge. That edge should be made of a low friction material.

Realistically you just back a trick up to the fence or lean a ladder against it. Once you're up on the panels there is nothing stopping you from getting over it. You need to run steel slats spaced 4 inches apart across the arc of the panels. These slats need to be electrified.

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>>129378239
But it will be lava-hot from the sunrays, dingus.

>>129355750
>fence
lel

>>129378152
and only you seems know this, just shshshs don't tell these nazi scum around)

>>129358557
Doar your research Pablo, they are literally our mexicans