Syria General /sg/ - Statistics Edition

>must watch

American senator tell the other side of the story: https://youtu.be/0FNtEWfay_8
>Virginia senator on Aleppo: https://youtu.be/VfyDgDTu0Go
UN Neutral report on "War Crimes" in Syria: https://youtu.be/Yc-RmAVK8Pg
>Syria: Not a Revolution: https://youtu.be/8prwbWLa7f0

>THE TRUTH ABOUT White helmets: https://youtu.be/8aAaReVn2I4 | https://youtu.be/Es7oBV6b43Y
more on white helmets: https://youtu.be/tseqwNIXhDQ | https://youtu.be/792ODrhwKkk
White helmets killing a child for UN https://youtu.be/9nj6fc69qjM

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"CM attacks" in Khan Shiekoun on April 4
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/04/67182.html
>President Assad: Chemical Attack was 100% Fabrication https://youtu.be/_pGAcv-cvA4
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>What's REALLY Happening in Syria (by SyrianGirlPartisan): https://youtu.be/t6BRVQDEO7k
Syria ambassador in USA: https://youtu.be/U3LTTbOYVfU
>The Face of American Regime Change: https://youtu.be/T634A6AWR9c
Assad visits monastery for Christmas: https://youtu.be/aG_SutViEmQ
Soldier met family after 5 years: https://youtu.be/zHoeU9mZ1Xss
>The Lies of Syria: https://youtu.be/TjHniRRgOao
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NGO’s and hybrid warfare: https://youtu.be/ro1byfe5vUM
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WikiLeaks: Turkish oil minister links to Isis oil trade
- wikileaks.org/berats-box/article
Top aide to Hillary Clinton: :Al-Qaeda is on our side in Syria
- wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225

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>SJWs cuckmarch(riding in my Volkswagen van everyday) from Germany to Aleppo "over the course of three and a half months"
https://youtu.be/L2A3KidIhe8
Progress: 20 left out of 3000+ at the start, after crying around at the Slovenia-Croatia fence and bitching about visas, on march 12th they entered in Bosnia and Herzegovina, April 21st they were in Macedonia
Update:5+ months have passed since the roadtrip started. From May 1st they are in Greece....

Thread reminder to watch Threads.
https://vimeo.com/18781528

https://youtu.be/t98PD6KCg2Q

Fuck Ass*dists.

>>129353616
Shlomo BTFO

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Latest re: Burger Israbia v. Qatar:
>German FM warns Gulf crisis could lead to war, but believes there are also good chances to make progress.
>Erdogan met with Bahrain FM, calls for Qatar row to be resolved by end of Ramadan.
>Qatar Petroleum says business as usual despite diplomatic rift.
>US lawmakers pressing for sanctions on Qatar received over $1m from lobbyists linked to Israel, Saudi Arabia and UAE.
>Qatari FM: Hamas is a resistance group, not a terrorist group and [trade] ties with Iran are not a crime.
>Turkey: Qatar military base for the security of entire Gulf region
>Egypt's Sisi praises Trump's stance on Qatar.
>Niger announced it had recalled its ambassador to Qatar following the latest developments in the Gulf.
>Qatari FM in Moscow for talks with Russian counterpart.
>Saudi Arabia welcomes Trump's remarks, does not respond to Tillerson call.
>Khalid al-Falih, Saudi Arabia's energy minister - Qatar row 'no impact' on global oil pact.
>Senegal breaks ties with Qatar at Saudi urging, restores ties with Israel.
>Merkel calls for regional cooperation, saying that all Gulf countries, and also Iran and Turkey, should work together to end the regional crisis.
>Eritrea said in a statement it "rejected" the demand to cut ties "with brother Doha".
>Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and Egypt placed put dozens with Qatar ties on terror list
>Erdogan reaffirmed his backing for Qatar in its dispute with other Gulf nations, saying Turkey would never leave the country isolated.
>Trump accuses Qatar of 'funding terrorism.
>Pentagon says blockade 'hindering' planning for long-term operation. State Dept calls for deescalation.

>>129353591
>tfw united kingdom not n1

ass-sad is a degeneracy promoting commie

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POST RARE ASSAD DAUGHTER

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>tfw I will never catch EPV as a teenager and choke on my lymph nodes

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>On this day, 17 years ago, Eternal Leader Hafez Al-Assad has passed away
Press F to pay respect

>>129353847
I see Asma in her

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>>129353847
>You will never be married into the Assad family

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>The U.S.-Iranian confrontation on the Syria-Iraq Borders: Interview with an Iraqi Militia Official
http://www.aymennjawad.org/2017/06/the-us-iranian-confrontation-on-the-syria-iraq#.WTwVwWIAJkY.twitter

>>129353591
Interesting statistics, but what about Swedenistan and Germoney?

>>129353741
is this what the July crises was like?

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>>129353894
Do you want to get touchy touchy with your princess?
>>129353847
YUSS

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>>129353896
FFFFFFFFF

>>129353847
is she legal?

>>129353896
Look at that fucking cranium.

Dude looks like he invented 11D go.

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>>129354045
I think you're mistaken, you've misspelled "Julie", and this is his crisis.

>>129353494
>One guy admitted voting 8 times
that was me lol, I think it's better to hold the vote intra-thread since we have IDs and all
strawpoll can be easily cheated if you have multiple proxies ready at a single click

>>129353530
Its not just UAE royals mate. There are some inside the Saudi government who want an outright alliance with Israel. For example Anwar Eskhi wants an alliance with Israel to contain Iran.
Link:https://www.cfr.org/event/regional-challenges-and-opportunities-view-saudi-arabia-and-israel-0

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>>129353896
F

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>>129353896
الله يرحمو شو كان عبقري ، صاحب رؤية

F

>>129354024
This was before the rapefugees wave I belive, now they might get in the top

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>>129353896
Respect eternal ayy lmao

>>129353896
F

>>129354090
No

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>tfw Al-Tanf meme is dead but so is Maghreboi until the next shitfest happens (which will happen in another god damn month)

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>>129354090
>tfw you will never sit on Zein's lap while she sits on Asma's lap.

Hey guys, there was a Dutch anon, who said he was going to his friends BBQ.
Do we know if he came back?
I think, we wished him good luck in the previous thread.

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>>129353896
F

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>>129354368
You're more of a Tiger man than?

>>129353896
TFU on his grave

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>>129353942
You will need his permission bro

>>129354180
does it matter to you?

>>129354406
Why are you worried ? Do you think he was caanibalized ?

>>129354406
He did not come back yet!

>>129353896
F

>>129354483
I'll fight for him if he gives me his blessing

>his daughter will never write you love letters while stuck in the sandbox

feels bad man

>>129353896
>Eternal
S.

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>>129354493
Because a tripfag died while on his way to his brother's/friend's barbeque. The Dutch guy shared the same fate.

>>129354451
kek get Hama'd you rapefugee

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>>129354384
i can roleplay as maghreboi if you want

>>129353591
weird france isn't on the list

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>>129353896

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>>129354640
>>129353896
I agree with maghreboi here, Hafez was a complete traitor to arab interests. Fuck the guy

>>129353896
This man is the reason why a middle class exists in Syria. Before him it was the 1% vs the 99% of dirt poor people.

He, alone, built this country.
Dad, as a kid, used to work in fields with no shoes, while I can shitpost all day. This transformation was led by this man.

>>129354514
Shit!

>>129354632
Press F to pay respect.

>>129354756
Wasn't he the Pan-Arabism, Ba'at uber alles type tho?
>>129354261
By the way Romaniabro, do you think your team stands any chance against Poland today?

>>129354817
Heroic.

Daraa getting the Dresden treatment.
https://twitter.com/A_J_S_B/status/873574940561338369

>>129354493
Most prolific /sg/ baker was killed 40 ton trucks, we believe it was mossad

>>129354858
Im guessing Morroccan bro supports Saddam branch of Baath over Hafez's branch.

>>129354817
Alright, that single post changez my opinion on Hafez "ayy lmao in Arabic" al-Assad.
Glory to this man. (wasn't it the French who bulit your country anyway?)

>>129354963
Was he the guy in the car ?

>>129354858
WE WILL FIGHT AND CRUSH YOU!!!!

nah lad, we will lose 3-1

>>129355060
Kek, I'm going with 2:0 for us, we'll see!
>>129354963
Not to mention your brakes cut, or my bike accident.. Weird stuff man.

>>129354640
>hurr durr

POLL TIME /sg/ : who do you support in the current Gulf conflict
Qatar or Saudi Arabia?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13155039

http://www.strawpoll.me/13155039

http://www.strawpoll.me/13155039

http://www.strawpoll.me/13155039

>>129355027
many people think so... he never came back after he said he is going to bbq to his brother... he had a child

>>129350318

Let me tell you what I think.

Salafism is not that widespread in Turkey, so it is not an immediate problem to us. The Muslim Brotherhood's moderate Islamism that is exported by Qatar is appealing to most people here, however, so it must be addressed first.

Personally I would like Saudi Arabia to outright annihilate that place. At least get rid of the royal family. Saudi Arabia's time will come too, but Qatar is even worse to me.

>>129355024
I am talking about the SCALE of transformation.
Sure, the french built a school there and a road here.. But the president built the whole country: a school in EVERY little town, vaccines for everyone and for free. Free healthcare, free education, dirt cheap food..etc.

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xth for hot kurdish women

>>129355201
Qatar of course, but only for this conflict, I still don't like them

>>129355222
Digits confirm for truth.

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>>129353896
F

>>129355135
Looking forward to the the game just to see how much we suck!
>>129355135
Bike accident, now that's new to me..I did not know! What happen?

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AHHHHHHHHH

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>129353896
F

>>129355417
FAKE NEWS

>>129355302
Last time it was hot down her mushkee was when a draught visited Rojava.
I doubt even spiders are brave enough to make a web in her crotch.
>>129355257
But it was outright socialism, the "free" education and healthcare made a lot of debts, didn't it?

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>>129354384
just imagine a different flag my dude

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>>129355302

>>129355417
Fake news

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>>129354858
>Wasn't he the Pan-Arabism, Ba'at uber alles type tho?
That would be Saddam.

By October 1978, Iraq President, Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr began working closely with Assad to foil the Camp David Accords; signing in Baghdad a charter for Joint National Action which provided for the "closest form of unity ties" including "complete military unity" as well as "economic, political and cultural unification".

Everything was going along well until Assad rejected Iraqi demands for a full merger between the two states, perhaps fearful of Iraqi domination and a new war with Israel, he advocated a step-by-step approach. The unity talks were eventually suspended indefinitely after an alleged discovery of a Syrian plot to overthrow Saddam Hussein in November 1979.

During the Iran-Iraq war, Syria sided with Iraq against crazy Khomeini and his demands for an islamic revolution in Iraq overthrowing the ba'ath party. He cut off the oil pipeline that went from Iraq to Europe through Syria, costing BILLIONS of dollars every month to the Iraqi ba'ath, which led to them having to borrow money from Kuwait, which eventually led to the Gulf War. Can't forget Syria was part of the coalition for "liberating" Kuwait in 1991.

>>129355201
Where's the option where I support Qatar but on the basis that Iran and Russia make it their fuccboi

>>129353896

F

>>129355417
S

>>129355242
>Qatar is even worse to me
Reasons for such animosity Turk bro?

>>129355222
He's 55? he's really old to browse here

>>129355635

I explained on the comment...

>>129355392
Few weeks ago back tire went boom in the middle of the road, I've barely started to walk a few dayz ago, the good side is synthetic morphine giving a funny feel all the time.
It's seriously worrying that thingz like these happen exclusively to the most commited bakers.

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>>129355417
>Jan 24, 2017

>>129355688
You'd be suprised how many posters are 40+

>>129355799
Are you?

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>>129355723
Why didn't you tell us about that, Al-Bolandi?
I hope you're alright now! No long-term damage, right?

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>>129355976
HOL UP

me>you

>>129353896
F

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>>129356098

>>129355688
There are a lot of "old" posters..being interested in geopolitics is not really for the weakminded young people "yolo,swag,lmao" type.... not only that...my breaks were cut off and I had a suicidal journey and polishbro had a bike accident of which I just found out


>>129355723
Man that's terrible! some time ago I was too busy and did not come around for 1 week..I'm guessing that's when it happen...don't let yourself down! get back on your feet and do the things you did before! I got some motivational vids if you want

>>129355976
Liwa al-Quds?
>>129355913
I did mention it, even with a pic, it's in the archives somewhere, but I didn't feel like babbling about it all the time.
Thanks btw, it's almost fine now, the worst thing was ribs, cause it hurts like a motherfucker when breathing, not to mention coughing or sneezing.

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>>129356098
maghrebois.

#Daraa:Rebels defenses slowly are being broken.If Regime continues their assault with current intensity collapse is unavoidable.

>>129356211
No worriez, I'll get on the bike the next second I can. Also a good thing was having to stay in bed, so I've shitposted a lot lately!
What makes me think is Canastan, you, me, it seriously smellz like some Mossad fags want us out.

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>A delegation from the Syrian opposition arrives in Northern Syria, to conduct a series of meetings with officials

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>>129356340
J-JUST YOU WAIT ASS*DISTS

THIS IS THE REAL TRUE PLAN OF OUR OPERATIONS. PHASE 1287358742348235th HAS JUST BEGUN

DAMASCUS WILL BE RETAKEN, JUST YOU WAIT

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>>129356098

>>129356555
Fucking Ocelan PKK/YPG Kurdish cancer.

>>129356599
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhFjWt3mkY8

Biggest military NATO exercise this year in Romania

British,polish,norwegian,usa,romanian troops to take part

>>129357032
are they preparing an invasion of Moldavia?

>>129356944

kek

>>129353591
Why would Americans want to support ISIS if their goverment is at war with ISIS? do they not have people who are being paid to brainwash and push certain thoughts and opinions?

>you'll never kill takfiri with your double edged sword

Why even live ?

>>129356551
>ib4 suicide with a shot on the back of our head

It does and it's scary though... at least we are doing something useful! Their attempt to you backfired and gave more quality threads kek!

>>129356555
Praise Apo, but what's the purpose? Estabilishing trade, sending eachother some ATGMs, exchange of intel?

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>>129356944
Lmao
>we have 10 million moderates
>not making the guy say 10 gorillion moderates
almost perfect

>>129357032
Sadly the only country that might have the balls to leave Nato is Turkey. Especially after they turned those German soldiers into refugees.
Greece did leave but got cucked into coming back.

>>129357277
because our intelligence agencies have no form of accountability except for themselves

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>>129356944

>>129357165
I'd wish... russia can have transnistria though, we just want our clay...we had our change when Ceausescu was killed but corruption on both ends and power hungry people did notmake that possible... only a war will bring us together now...

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>>129357277
fake liberals like sharia, they think hijab is feminist symbol. lol

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>>129357277
Not adjusted for twitter users per capita

>>129355635
Nah Saudi are the twats in this.
Both of them wrecked Pak.
Saudi via madrassas
Qatar via propping up Sharif
Saudi propping up Sharif too.

>>129357355
Kek, thanks, I'm lazy on the updates, but the bakery coordination is top-notch nowadays.
If one of us dissapears, seriously there should've been a note or something, somewhere..

>>129355201
Hint: When in doubt, always vote for the side that based Oman supports.

In this case it's Qatar.

Has ISIS released any new videos?

>>129357832
And what's up with Oman, is their survival dependant on foreign politics so much to the point of them always choosing the right thing to do?

>>129357846
I think they released one about the Tehran attacks a few days ago.

>>129357846
I think there was a svbied in raqqa but idk where it is

>>129353896
F

>>129357832

Wait what? Oman supports Qatar? I thought they were neutral.

Anyway, what is it like in Oman? What the fuck happens in that place that is strategically so important and yet we never hear about? What do Ibadis even believe in?

>>129357846
Waiting for svbied, rpg and sniper compilation

>>129357990
They also are an Islamic branch that just does not give an absolute fuck why the others are killing each other

>>129357769
>Saudi propping up Sharif
Aye that is true. When General Musharraf came in power in 1999 the Saudis took in Sharif and his family as guests to protect them from the army.

>>129357832
I always vote AGAINST the side Israel is with, sadly Israel is with Saudi in this so I vote Qatar.
Anything Israel wants is never good for the Arabs.

>>129357990
They're Ibadis. Look it up.

>>129358101
They're as neutral in this as the US. They're smart enough not to take a side publicly so they can still mediate.

>>129358245
Good thing we'll bomb you and your family to death next year in Beirut, you smelly arabshit.

>>129358190
Historically their region was always Ibadi, never Sunni or Shia, so it might have something to do with it.

>>129358245
>Anything Israel wants is never good for the Arabs.
And you think Sunnishits would be allowed to pray in Jerusalem if Hezbollah took over?

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Pretentious douchebags who supports the "FSA"

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>>129358245
>Israel is with Saudi in this
>in this

>>129358687
forgot my trip code

I dont reply to israeli posts as I dont recognise their existence, its all Palestine, from the river to the sea.

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More statistics

>>129358531
Ironically Ibadism is descended from an ancient and heavily radical version of Islam (apparently if you go to hell, youre there forever unless you follow Islam and shit)

Yet they are pretty fucking stable from the rest of the Mideast and literally avoid all of the inane and insane shit that happens on a day to basis in Saudi Arabia

>>129358790
Worse than boycott on Kurdish joints honestly

>>129354483
>red shoes

what a whore

>>129357814
Lad I had this twitter i used for a shortwhile but got lazy soon to post on it... let me lurk for it .. we can write there, also I got like 1 follower so if you follow me they will know kek

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>>129358476
>Despite predating all Sunni and Shia schools by several decades, the Ibadis and their beliefs remain largely a mystery to outsiders, both non-Muslims and even other Muslims.[3]:3 Ibadis have claimed, with justification, that while they read the works of both Sunnis and Shias, even the learned scholars of those two sects never read Ibadi works and often repeat myths and false information when they address the topic of Ibadism without performing proper research.[3]:4 >The isolated nature of Oman granted the Ibadi denomination, secretive by nature, the perfect environment to develop in isolation from the Islamic mainstream.[4] Ibadis were cut off even from the Kharijite sect because of Ibn Ibaḍ's criticism of their excesses and his rejection of their more extreme beliefs.[4] The spread of Ibadism in Oman essentially represents the triumph of theology over tribal feudalism and conflict.[6]
>Ibadis have been referred to[by whom?] as tolerant Puritans or as political quietists because of their preference to solve differences through dignity and reason rather than with confrontation,[2][8] as well as their tolerance for practising Christians and Jews sharing their communities.[8]

>>129358245
Ok so it's 2-0 for Qatar.

>>129358827
I won't even mention France, UK, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, but what's interesting is the numbers for Russia, not a suprise they're so commited to defeating the Nusra & IS jihadis, I think even Putin himself said that it's done to combat internal terrorism outside of Russian borders.

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>>129358827
>Source : CNN
hmmmmmm

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/ptg/ here. Can we agree on one thing - Assad deserves what he's getting?

He sat back and laughed when US toppled Gaddafi and Sadam.

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>>129356944
Reality checked

>>129358874
I hate kurdish nationalism, but Israel is the true cancer.
Kurdish nationalism is like a flu if you compare it to the Israeli tumour.
Also, the boycott is still ongoing.

>>129359170
RIP Gandalffi, the wizard who kept the orc hordes away from middle-earth.

>>129359170
>Assad deserves what he's getting

If winning the war which is what he get's right now was on your mind then yes we can agree

>>129359044
>one of the most radical sects of Islam is more tolerable than modern Wahhabism

Really pingpongs my Bzaa

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>>129359017
I'll check on it later, going to see the game now!
Good luck Romania, you'll need it :-DD

>>129353142
I know he's related to Husayn ibn Ali

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>>129353616
You misspelled "Let me please die and end this pain now forever and let the virus that I, a Jew, am, never again burden humanity with my impurity, malevolence and destructiveness. "

>>129359327

I hope he wins. (((they))) are not done with Assad yet.

>>129359361
what game is on?

>>129359170
You have to go back Shlomo
If anything Trump deserves to be shot for being a ZOG slave

>>129359044
>as well as their tolerance for practising Christians and Jews sharing their communities.
That's not very accurate. They tolerate literally everybody, not just Christians and Jews. They just don't care what your religion is.

>4 Km only to Arak Field East Homs Syrian Mod
https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/873594415943745542

>>129359462
Poland - Romania football qualifiers for the World Cup

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>ongoing advance toward arak village
ARAK BEFORE T3?!

>>129353896
top kek he died from a heart attack when he heard the Israelis unilaterally left south lebanon, he was hoping to trade Lebanese blood for Golan Heights and peace with Israel. Faggot was so scared of Israel he didnt fire a single bullet at Golan Heights for decades and wanted others to fight his battle for him

>>129358687
>>129358777
How are things in Aleppo?
Is the city getting fixed up?

>>129359520
T3 airport isn't as defensible so it should be taken afterward.

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>>129359385
Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, is a Sayyid,

>>129359470
Seem like a decent lot

>>129359572
i have relatives returned to aleppo and says everything better now.

>>129359105
Chechnya is a hotbed for islamic extremism, they've had several wars with Russia already
The region is kept sedated with Moscow money and Kadyrov is loyal to Putin for now but eh

>>129359170
>Assad deserves what he's getting?
Well, he's winning.

>He sat back and laughed when US toppled Gaddafi and Sadam.
Arab relations are a fucking mess. Nevertheless he couldn't do anything about it.

>>129359170
He laughed to an earlier joke from Gaddafi that the arab world is only united during conferences
Other arab leaders were laughing too, this is cherrypicked

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>>129359630
>implying
T3, like all airports, is built like a fort.

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>>129358641
> And you think Sunnishits would be allowed to pray in Jerusalem if Hezbollah took over?
Of course they would, im Christian not Muslim. Most Palestinians are sunni anyway. Hez and Iran dont have this Shia-Sunni mentality that simple minded people like yourself have.
Only Israelis, Saudi regime and stupid Westerners believe this shia-sunni divide.

>>129359170
he was laughing WITH Gaddafi, Assad was like the only Arab leader with warm relations with gaddafi

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>>129359518
>gypsybro v al bolandi
who do i cheer for lads?

>>129359726
Yeah chechnya has improved a lot by putting billions of dollars into infrastructure and other developments in the region but it's still a hot point.

>>129359686
They are. Omanis are by far the best people I've interacted with and I have yet to meet a single bad Omani.

>>129359917
Fuck this guy, he's a bearded faggot that deserves the worst in life, him and the last bearded faggot before him. Iran woulda been better off left under royalty.

>>129359676
I see, thanks.

So besides Abdullah II, the Sayyids seem to be Shia.

>>129359899
It's literally paved dirt with a few outlying buildings, shut the fuck up. http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.529019&lon=38.740346&z=17&m=b

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>>129359170

>>129359917
>>129358641
Sunnis do have to fix their religion, but the shias play it well by not trying to worsen relations
>>129360109
Typical american, didn't know that the Shah was a jew puppet. Hates Iran for restricting degeneracy while protesting against degeneracy how ironic.

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>>129360167
>with a few outlying buildings
>hurr durr
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.642088&lon=38.572569&z=16&m=b&show=/26160049/Arak

>>129360146
Yes. There is also Queen Elizabeth

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>>129360068
>Never fell to the gommunists

Just gets better and better desu

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>>129360109
>royalty
Pavlavi was a western puppet who didn't have his people's interests in mind. Mossadegh was a far better leader, nationalist guy who was a champion of secular democracy and resistance to foreign domination.

He got CIA'd in 1953 for nationalizing Iranian oil companies.

>>129360331
> Sunnis do have to fix their religion
hahahaha i tried this with my family i tell you sunnis are harder than diamond

>>129360417
سلام الله علیها

>>129360480
So, whats your faith?

>>129360404
Just the fact that the houses have walls make it more of a hardened target. Your flag is fucking filtered.

>>129359361
>may the best team lose

Kek

>>129360443
Lets be fair. He wasn't a complete tool. There are interviews out there with him calling out jews for manipuating the west.

>>129360424
Oh I must've forgot to mention that they actually have a capable military (British confirmed) and ran their own empire for a while. So their tolerance and dignity are absolutely not to be misinterpreted as weakness.

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>>129360592
im muslim. i dont agree with having a denomination or belonging to certain sects.

sunnis or shia or whatever all of them goes to the same bowl of shit only made islam more shit than before when they first fought each other

i dont think we need the hadith and i think the quran have everything we need to find the path to god.

>>129359973
cheer for the weak and poor meaning for Romania...also we are not gypsies

>>129360443
>>129360331
I never said it'd be perfect, just better than what it is now. They spend more money on their shitty 3rd world military than they do on education and most of that money comes from Oil. They also discriminate the fuck out of other religions in Iran. ever heard of bahais? they torture and kill em as political prisons just because they're not muslim, literally fucking savages.

>>129360330
whoever made this is /ptg/-level retarded or a Mossad psyop agent trying to make us equate saddam with assad. Saddam was Iran and Assad's mortal enemy, and his idiocy is half the reason for the troubles in the region today

>>129360331
> Sunnis do have to fix their religion, but the shias play it well by not trying to worsen relations
They just have to fix their leaders. The problem isnt in Sunni ideology its in Saudi dominance over their leaders.
Abdulnaser (the best arab leader) was sunni, so was Gaddafi and Saddam -Bashar Alassad prays like a sunni and is married to a sunni.
If you remove the Saudi regime you fix Sunni Muslims.

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>>129360706
>being this bootyblasted
kek, i must've missed how t3 doesn't have walls

>>129360804
Very nice
>>129360846
>Sean Hannity said so, so it must be true

>>129361078
>boogyman no.906 said so, so it must be false

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>>129360804
>i dont think we need the hadith and i think the quran have everything we need to find the path to god.
Based

>>129360915
I think one has to at least dig a bit deeper and eliminate the salafi wahhabi movement. Ideally, I'd say that all hadith should be removed though.

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>>129361210
>>129361078

my family called me a heretic

>>129360804
Lot's of Muslims here are like that mostly Sunni and some Ahmadi

Most Sunnis sperg out if you mention sectarian fighting and insist those issues don't belong here. You'll also see lots of them sporting Hezzie flags and there are big Quds day marches here.

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>>129361369
Beheading when?

>>129360842
Hagi forever m8!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3c4KHEqciI
>>129360868
it's just a dumb meme you autist

>>129361280
If you eliminate Saudi you eliminate Wahabism. I dont think all salafism is bad (it was pretty benign prior to wahabism).

> Ideally, I'd say that all hadith should be removed though
Im not a Muslim and I cant common on that, just saying Wahabism is the cancer and not Sunni ideology.

>>129361369
Well, that's what you are to them, after all. Did you get into any real trouble about it? Were you disowned?

>>129361383
all sunnis blame the shia for their own problem and vice versa

both of them dont want to admit they are wrong so this is why they both belong in the same bowl of shit.
>>129361520
somewhere near your room

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army is in outskirts of arak field


Arak will fall . Russians are participating .

>>129361369
Honestly, I think thats very brave of you, because admitting to rejecting the hadith in the muslim world seems a bit dangerous to me. I know there was this saudi preacher who got his passport confiscated because of that.

>>129360915
>If you remove the Saudi regime you fix Sunni Muslims

You have no concept of what Islamic history has been like havent you? The idiocy of sunni theology is the root cause of how someone like the Saudis can get power and rule for so long. its literally a tenet of their faith that they should never disagree with any ruler because they would go to hell if they disobey their leader, regardless of how tyrannical or evil or tyrannical he is. This whole sunni revolutions crap all over the place only started about 60 years with Syed Qutb and Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt

>>129361683
To be fair it doesn't take much to lose your passport here.

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>>129361652
HALT THE OFFENSIVE T3 IS MORE IMPORTANT

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>>129360788
He was the first regional leader to recognize Israel. He was a tool of the military-industrial complex which used Iran to get sales contracts and sell more and more weapons. He was corrupted as all hell, too.

>>129360846
>They spend more money on their shitty 3rd world military than they do on education and most of that money comes from Oil.
Shut the fuck up, 93% of Iranians are literate (more than your shithole), a fuckload of people study (and a lot) and they're leading in a lot of research domains.

>most of that money comes from Oil
Who the fuck cares where it comes from? The important thing is to use it well, which is what the Iranians are doing right now and what Saddam did too in Iraq.

>They also discriminate the fuck out of other religions in Iran.
Guess what, it's an islamic theocracy. Retarded leaders and oppressive clergy, but they're amongst the leading anti-imperialist forces out there, so we tolerate that.

>>129360868
>his idiocy is half the reason for the troubles in the region today
Alright, lemme hear you out. What was Saddam's "idiocy"?

>>129361602
my family did ape shit at me
>>129361683
first step of being wrong is to personally attack a person without counter argument

they can take all the passports they want. but they wont take our will

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>>129361652
>Arak will fall
dont you mean liberated Coratio anon?

How do I become an alawite lads

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>>129361952
>my family did ape shit at me
Damn
Are they alright with it now or just ignoring it? Can't imagine what it'd be like to live in a staunchly sectarian family

>>129361546
Ahh, he was and is the best we ever had! the generation of players with him were also the best years we ever had as a national team...we have not playd in the world cup since 98

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>>129361952
Thats the spirit

>>129361820
> You have no concept of what Islamic history has been like havent you?
> This whole sunni revolutions crap all over the place only started about 60 years with Syed Qutb and Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt
Wow thanks burger, sunni islam started 60 years ago, thanks for the history lesson.

>>129361916
>What was Saddam's "idiocy"?

Gee, attacking Iran on the assurances of ((((Rumsfeld)))) probably ranks high on the list.

Israeli Home Front Command will have national a earthquake practice from Sunday to Wednesday pretty weird in my opinion that we have 4 days of earthquake practice

>>129362045
first it falls ,then it gets liberated .

>>129362080
It seems like a cult to me, similar to Judaism. I don't know if you can even join it. Most of their beliefs are kept secret.

>>129362128
everything is fine but i now know there is no way to convince them for the right they are sealed to their beliefs are fuck

>>129362246
thanks

>>129362224
he was brilliant. i was just a small brat, but never forgot him in 94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvJ62cqrYy4

I just realized that there is not a single rebel force left with an ISIS front except for Golan area. US support for the rebels failed so much.

>>129362453

Fucking antisemitic tectonic plates

>>129362448
Iraq was one of the very first countries to open friendly diplomatic relations with Khomeini when Khomeini took over Iran because the Shah was a long time enemy of Iraq as well, having funded Kurdish insurgency inside Iraq for decades. However, Khomeini had none of it and responded by denouncing Saddam and promising to overthrow him and take over Iraq as well. When Saddam made a second attempt (as he was confused by the first) at calling for cooperation between the two countries, Khomeini, again, aggressively refused to talk and called for an Islamic revolution inside Iraq, rallying the shia Arabs around him.

Almost all media outlets say that Iraq attacked first, but they never mention that it was a preemptive strike. Iran committed border raids against Iraq and equipped their army with top of-the-line high-tech American weaponry preparing for war. They were going to invade and so Iraq struck first.

Let me reiterate the facts: Khomeini publicly called for the ousting of Saddam and instigated Iraqi Shia to overthrow the Iraqi government, trying to export his Islamic revolution across the border. Iran had over 3 times the available population (and more since the Kurdistan region was exempted from the Iraqi draft) and despite their purges and change of government, it remained the larger and much more powerful country.

Khomeini was a radical religious extremist waging jihad to institute his same fundamentalist government on Iraq. What would you have Iraq do, wait for Iran to attack (beyond the terrorist bombings and border raids, including an attempt on the life of Saddam’s deputy minister) right after they had finished prepping up their army with shiny new American weapons? A preemptive strike was the only rational option, like Israel in 1967 (whom no one accuses of starting the war despite being first to attack as well) in order to blunt the Iranian army’s force before facing the full power of one of the world's strongest militaries at that time.

>>129362553
(((tectonic plates)))

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>>129362453
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_weapon

>>129362472

They basically believe earth we create our own hell and you have to be reincarnated 7 times before you .ca return to the universe

>>129362453
Nuttinyahoo afraid of Hezbollah rocket strikes?
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-raises-hezbollah-rocket-estimate-to-150000/

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>>129353591
Whar's up crew? Busy day if mine. Trading a lot, my inner jew is satisfied. You done arguing with turk&kurd diaspora? Going to give sis a ride. Again, hope I won't get canastan'd. After that, match time!

Oh and Romania-bro - nothing personal, filly. ;^)

>>129362683
Iran has Tectonic weapons confirmed?

>>129353591
>Egypt and Palestine
I thought that those guys were hunting Isis supporters

>>129362544

I doubt that IS even exists anymore as one. It's not likely that IS fighters in the remote areas under their control take orders from some central mastermind'

Its more a loose alliance of warlords and fighters.

>>129359917
>that simple minded people like yourself have.
can you make one post without including ad hominems?

What are we eating tonight /sg/?

>>129361916
His idiocy includes and is not limited to:
>Starting a worldwide-backed war by invading Iran, severely weakening both powers and bringing Iraq into mountains of debt for fighting a zionist war, literally a Saudi-American puppet for the whole 1980's
>unable to pay the accumulated debts, and the Gulf is demanding them even though he literally fought the war with Iran for their sake and at their urging
>making the gross miscalculation of invading kuwait, and actually unironically believing the US ambassador when she told him "US doesnt intervene in internal Arab affairs" when he told her his plans for kuwait
>Getting BTFO in Kuwait because of his idiocy is miscalculating
>instead of trying to rebuild his military, uses all the money from oil for gold scheme into making golden toilets and palaces to be buried in

And Im giving an objective analysis, I havent even mentioned his humanitarian crimes against his people that are literally ISIS-tier crimes. Assads and Khomeini were ruthless, but had wisdom in how to deal with things, Saddam was literally an ignorant bedouin ruling a nation.

>>129360706
>Your flag is fucking filtered.
wow lad, filtering someone because he didnt agree with your post?
muh safespace

>>129362888
An insult is not an ad hominem by default, Reddit. A personal attack is ONLY considered an ad hominem if it is used as a logical fallacy. E.g. you're dumb so you're wrong.

>>129362649

Never knew that. Still though, the war fucked up his economy bad. Which was doing well before it.

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>>129362837
Egypt is sectarian as fuck, the population is backwards and they're getting more and more conservative by the day
They hunt ISIS but the population has been deeply religious ever since Nasser died and they started breeding like rabbits

>>129362966
>Starting a worldwide-backed war by invading Iran, severely weakening both powers and bringing Iraq into mountains of debt for fighting a zionist war, literally a Saudi-American puppet for the whole 1980's

Even after the war started Saddam offered a truce in 1982 which was rejected by Khomeini; if he was so peaceful the war would have ended six years before it actually did. He was a no-negotiation extremist and rebuffed peace notions in the same manner he refused cooperation and friendship earlier.

In fact Khomeini proved beyond doubt the he was the one who wanted the war because he's the only reason it went so long as it did. He refused any peace or negotiation until his military was decisively defeated and he was forced to conditionally surrender and accept peace, which he said was "worse than drinking poison." The war ended in 1988 on the back of a string of very successful victories by the Iraqi army to ended the Iranian aggression once and for all, but people still believe Saddam to have lost the war not knowing it was a defensive war in the first place against a much more powerful aggressor. Had Saddam not signed the UN treaty giving away the large swaths of land Iraq ended up conquering from Iran this claim wouldn’t be so popular.

Khomeini gave Iraq more casus belli than almost any country did in the 20th century, and anyone who claims Iraq was the instigator doesn’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.

>>129362837
Egyptian military has a history of being secular, hence Sisi not being insane. However, he had to overthrow a guy from the Muslim Brotherhood to become president.

>>129362966
It’s true that the U.S. did help Iraq during the Iran War, but that doesn’t make Iraq its puppet. Their interests aligned so Saddam made use of all the help he can get, and Iraq came out of the war owing nothing to the U.S. and Iraqi people were not shackled by any agreements or pacts or had their wills binded to that of any further American interests. If anything, that’s an impressive feat, not something to be ashamed of. Besides Iraq also garnered help from the Soviet Union (America’s greatest enemy) as well as a couple of European and Arab countries.

The U.S. hated Iraq since Qassim, and Saddam did absolutely everything to middle-finger the US during the 1970s. People misinterpret the US's fake relationship with Iraq when Khomeini took over in Iran as BFF's just like the people who claim Germany and USSR became allies due to the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty. It’s just politics; two powers putting a buffer zone between them as they prepared for war against each other.

The biggest help Iraq received was from the US’s enemy, USSR, while Iran were helped by the US up until 1983 including a complete refitting of their weaponry in 1980 as Khomeini was preparing for war. Then of course there was the Iran-Contra affair, through which US support to Iran continued in secret up until 1987. This is what the US does - sees conflicts and “aids” those willing to buy weapons from them. The US gained by prolonging the war and Khomeini’s insistence on prolonging it further also helped. If you want to get technical about it the Iraq-Iran war was mostly USSR weaponry (Iraq) vs American weaponry (Iran).

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>>129362919
Rice and bolognese sauce

>>129362278
I said sunnis for their whole history have been like what I described, blindly obeying leader sand I said these political movements of revolution only started a few decades ago. Nowhere did I say sunnis just formed. are you an idiot or do you lack basic reading comprehension?

>>129363185
Finnish Jaeger?

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>>129362224
btw, is the guy in video here >>129362504 speaking romanian? sounds a lot like portuguese.
>cornore energica possibilidade contra-ataque argentiniana gool romania extraordinar contra ataq finalizat equipo mondial passa delante chutera gol tres a uno.
>>129362919
something with these babies, prolly chicken.

>>129362966
>>129363172
>unable to pay the accumulated debts
>making the gross miscalculation of invading kuwait
Syria betrayed arab interests by cutting the Europe <=> Iraq oil pipeline that went through Syria, which made them lose billions every month. This is why they had to borrow money from Kuwait.

They exceeded their OPEC oil production threshold by an immeasurable amount, leading Iraq to be unable to pay back their debt or rebuild their country after Iran-Iraq. Since OPEC did nothing about it and Kuwait didn't want to work on an agreement, they decided to invade (with US' implicit agreement that they wouldn't do anything, given they told Saddam Hussein personally that they wouldn't get involved in Kuwait's defense).

Even if we consider Desert Storm justified, the fact Iraq discarded its entire chemical weapons stock by 1994 and sanctions weren't lifted until the US FREEDOM'd the country shows they didn't have any interest in the region not becoming shittier. The embargo is what completely destroyed Iraq and led the country to become an extremist super-conservative shithole from its former glory as one of the best secular nations in the Middle East.

>>129362817
Romania stronk!

>>129362504
94 was the best year for us, we made it to quarter finals. Is Pele the best Brazil ever had?

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>Still thinking Assad and the murderous regime has a hope in hell

https://twitter.com/CT_operative/status/873517386498002944

>>129362966
> I havent even mentioned his humanitarian crimes against his people that are literally ISIS-tier crimes.

Saddam never attacked a group that never gave him a good reason to, and he was popular in Iraq across all ethnic and religious divides. Tons of Shi'a and many Kurds supported him, and he extensively developed cities in the south and in the Kurdistan region (which he gave autonomy yet still invested heavily). Not to forget Baghdad was mostly Shi'a and that was the best city in the country.

The blame lies on the Barzani and Talabani families for always pushing Kurdish violence and warfare against Iraqis and the Iraqi government. They could have lived better than anyone else in Iraq had that not been the case, and they were even exempted from any conscription during the Iran war, but that didn’t make a difference to them.

Committing insurgencies and terrorism with Iranian backing isn't a good idea, something Barzani/Talabani have been doing since the 1940’s and what Shi'a extremist groups founded in Iran have been doing since the 1980’s. Before Iran proxy extremist groups cropped up, no Shi'a were touched by Saddam or his predecessors.

Pro-government Kurds fought extensively against insurgent Kurds, both in the National Defense Battalions and in the military. Also the military was overwhelmingly Shi'a so when you think about it, the Shi'a were doing most of the fighting and killing during the Iran war. On the other side Sunnis were also killed and fought in kind when they'd revolt. Kurds were Sunni but suffered 50 times the number of casualties the Shi’a did. Things weren't as sectarian as commonly depicted.

Also, let us not forget the hundreds of thousands of pro-government Kurds in the National Defense Battalions, nevermind Kurds in the army, who fought against the Peshmerga. Why were Kurds overwhelmingly fighting against Kurds? Not everything is about sectarianism and ethnic divides.

>>129360330
Saddam was a retard that Invaded Iran and Kuwait for no reason, he got what was coming to him.

>>129363340
>Rice and bolognese sauce
Nice

Beef fillet, lamb boerie, beans and some basmati rice.

Might sneak some koeksisters, wife isn't here to judge.

>Dozens of ISIS terrorists killed as the Syrian Army with Russian Air support advanced 4 km towards Arak, NE Palmyra CS today
https://twitter.com/MmaGreen/status/873607473307025410

>>129362966
>Assads and Khomeini were ruthless, but had wisdom in how to deal with things, Saddam was literally an ignorant bedouin ruling a nation.

Iraq is a very turbulent country comprised of people of a dozen different cultures, ethnicities, religions, sects within religions, etc., all of whom hate each other’s guts. In addition, Iraq was under threats both internal and external, literally from all sides, so to take all this mess and not only achieve relative stability but to actually manage to move the country forward and improve it against all odds, is a very impressive task. The full force and influence of a sole superpower in a time period where there was absolutely no one to balance them (USSR was dissolving/dissolved), is something Iraq couldn’t handle in the end.

Ultimately Saddam was a reflection of the Iraqi people, and if it took someone like him with all his positives and negatives to develop and advance the country then what does that say about the cluster-fuck that is Iraqi society? Imagine Iraq was more like Egypt: No shitty tribal warfare, population almost exclusively one ethnicity, all the Muslims the same sect, etc., it would’ve been paradise on Earth.

Without any reasonable doubt, even with his many faults, Saddam was 100 times better than the current status quo. The only people who I've seen deny this are American Bushists and Middle Eastern sectarianists, or people who repeat buzzwords lacking in context. Today, Iraq is the gutter even the rats avoid, and is one of the worst countries in the world. No surprise why the nostalgia is so strong even among Shi'a Arabs and Kurds, who miss not living like dogs with no education, no opportunities, no stability or order, no peace, with armed gangs running the streets.

>>129363427
Chiilies? Peppers?

Chillipeppers?

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>>129363733
Sounds tasty!

>>129363095
I know, read the post i replied to

>>129363824
And to finish:

Why do many Shi'a and Kurds miss Saddam or at least his era? Why are the religious minorities all eliminated from Iraq in one of the most successful extermination campaigns since WW2? The remnants of Christians, Yazidis, Mandaens, and others are practically nothing anymore. No doubt, all non-Muslims in Iraq don't combine for a million people anymore. And regardless of whether you like him or hate him, almost every Iraqi today misses his time. The Kurds in Iraq for example have a saying among them; “We used to have 1 Saddam. Now we have 100 Saddams.”

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>>129363340
>Heinz.

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>>129363622
H-He'll eventually stop m-making gains, th-the rebels will eventually win! D-Damascus soon!

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>>129363525
Nope. The best would be Garrincha.
>>129363832
chocolate habaneros

>>129363824

Varg said the shia used to live in slums and where untouchables when he lived there in the 70s

>>129363976
Mein Gott, I must find some.

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>>129363412
Herb vodka, yes, though doesn't really taste like Jäger from what I remember of the drink. This is like a rather sweet mix of salmiakkikossu with some herbs infused. Not bad at all.
>Liqourice
>Angelica archangelica, wild celery
>Artemisia absinthium, wormwood
>Achillea millefolium, yarrow

>>129363427
kek, that's romanian! "chutare" means shoot but in written in romanian it should be "Şutare"

>>129363353
> said sunnis for their whole history have been like what I described, blindly obeying leader
Like any religious or ideological belief. Its human nature.

>>129364031
>Varg
>lived there in the 70s
wut

>>129363698
>for no reason
George Bush Sr didn't do the sword dance or touched a glowing orb, but he prolly gave him some mixed signals. What you are seeing with Saudi-Qatar rift is very similiar.

>>129364103
Herb liquors are great, might even break my soberness and get a bottle for the winter.

Almost at the bump limit, new bread for when that happens.

>>129364274
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>>129364274
>>129364274
>>129364274

>>129364133
As a child.

>>129364319
Why are you trying to be sober?

>>129364031
> varg
Not exactly the best source on Arab and Muslim affairs.

>>129364133

Lets find out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRATeUEBWJQ

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>>129364031
Here is a great list of high ranking Shi’a personnel serving in Ba’athist Iraq, which also includes first hand accounts of how one’s sect was considered taboo and irrelevant.

http://www.twf.org/News/Y2005/0325-Shia.html

Baghdad itself was majority shia, yet it was the most developed city in Iraq.

>>129364387
Had no clue
>>129364405
intredasting thx

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>>129364115
everything i wrote there sounds just like portuguese!
>tfw never heard romanian but know how to speak it

>>129364073
they are a variation of the scotchbonnet habenero. real spicy peppers bro!

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>>129363688

>
Saddam never attacked a group that never gave him a good reason to, and he was popular in Iraq across all ethnic and religious divides. Tons of Shi'a and many Kurds supported him,

>>129364130
>appeal to nature
autistic and retarded, you don't even have the good form of sperging

>>129364387
I don't really know myself, it's been two years and 3 months.

>>129364716
Maybe read the rest next time.

>>129360109
>flag
>praising a house nigger
let me guess you also think that trump isn't ZOG puppet

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>>129364743
Drinking's not all that great anyway. No point starting again if you've stayed sober for that long.

>>129363851
Is it true when Saddam ordered the gas attack on the kurds. Alot of the men killed were from Iran?
By the way do you have any other materiel regarding Iraq under Saddam? I would like to read more.

>>129364655
Problem is that I might not find them here.

I had a 1kg Pichana last week, was top quality.

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>>129360804
>i dont think we need the hadith and i think the quran have everything we need to find the path to god.

>>129364892
Thanks man, that's kind of how I feel. I just miss Beer, Rum and Herby stuff.

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>>129360846
>torture and kill em as political prisons
>literally fucking savages.
sounds like guantanamo and abu ghuraib ? you fucking nigger

>>129363976
ah, I heard a few things about him, he had some health problems or a handicap

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>>129353591
>USA

>>129365100
Whataboutism isn't good arguing. You must either condemn it or just accept that it happens.

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>>129365017
>roach calling others a kike