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Nobody likes Trumpcare
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(((poll)))
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>>129328405
hurr durr, gimmie my free diabeetus pills.
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>>129328405
Because he's compromising. We don't really have a middle ground where everyone is happy, we have people who like it and people who want the old system back. Neither side wants compromise.
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>>129328405
Instead of cucking to the Dems and "revamping" obungocare, they need to just scrap the whole fucking thing and let the free market takes its course.
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>62% of fox poll participants disapprove.
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>>129328405
and i don't care
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>>129328405
nobody likes (you) too
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>>129328405
Meanwhile Obamacare is more popular than ever.
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>>129328405
Why would they? It's literally taking your tax payer dollars and handing it to insurance companies.
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>>129328692
So the actual number is 99% disprove.
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>>129332065
>they literally only like it to spite Trump
And that should tell you exactly how much power the media has over people.
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>>129332452
Obamacare and Trumpcare are both utter shit

Sanders has a medicare for all bill

PASS IT
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>>129332065
It's almost as if they only like/dislike on principle.
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>>129328692
all this time shilling and you still don't understand how to identify a poll?
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>>129332452
fuck this, liberals are pathetic
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>>129332514

Fuck off gibsmedat nigger
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>>129332065
Obamaleaf..?
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>>129332674
>fuck this, liberals are pathetic

And conservatives aren't?
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>>129332731
>Fuck off gibsmedat nigger

You realize Trumpcare is Obamacare only worse right?
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>>129332452
>>129332560
You only know how much you like something when it is going to be taken away.
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>>129332820
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>>129332452
>>129332560
No. It's almost like right wing retards realized that Obamacare was keeping them alive.
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>>129332964
>It's almost like right wing retards realized that Obamacare was keeping them alive.
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>>129332851

Literally wrong

However, Trump would be better off abolishing this hybrid monstrosity entirely.
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>>129328405
>trusting polls
I wonder where I heard this before?
>calling it trumpcare
Can leftists make any original remarks?
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>>129333008
right wing retards love voting against their own interests. they are the ultimate cucks
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American population doesn't like trump in general, sadly he is what they need.
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>>129332829
>trusting an MSNBC poll
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>>129332829
>Democrats never waiver their opinion based on events
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>>129333228
right wing retards are the neocons. never forget it, cuck
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>>129333173

>voting the interests of yourself instead of your nation

Millenials are scum.
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>>129333360
Lol right wing retards think that the interests of the billionaire globalist elites that u worship, serve and obey are the interests of the nation

holy shit u retards are cucked beyond repair
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>>129332065
>create policy that takes from the productive few and gives free shit to the masses
>"Look, people love it!"

Shocked.
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>>129328405
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/state/
>quinnipiac
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>>129333453

You literally support and fund corporate and financial oligarchs under the guise of psuedo-socialism. You are a cancer on society and deserve death.
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>>129333173
>right wing retards love voting against their own interests. they are the ultimate cucks

Meanwhile in Canada...
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>>129333173
>>129333353
>>129333453

>right wing retards
>right wing retards
>right wing retards

You are very intelligent
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>>129333453
I'm glad to see you again. Leaves like you getting triggered are one of my few sources of joy these days.
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>>129333670
>>129334014
>>129334030
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>>129333353
>2013 gas attacks
Weren't those proven to be non-Syrian in origin?
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>>129334149
Hey wait are you the same leaf that was making those constant anti-Jordan Peterson shitposting threads a while back? Or is that two separate autistic leafs? Does Canada just breed this type of people?

Get it together, Canada.
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>>129333234
Yeah I'm pretty sure we can all figure out what "events" happened between now and then.

Now we're seeing what happens when a party of blindly contrarian obstructionists actually have to govern, and big surprise, all they can do is tear down old legislation and repeatedly publicly shit themselves despite having complete control of the executive and legislative branches.
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>>129333554
>Productive few

Holy shit automation is basically going to make everyone seem worthless to you except the fatasses with old wealth to buy robots.
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>>129334149
> using the same tactics over and over again

If you want to play it this game...
http://observer.com/2016/10/obama-makes-first-appearance-in-wikileaks-receives-admin-list-from-big-banker/
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>>129334149
>a bank saw which way the wind was blowing and jewed their way into riches
Exactly how does this surprise anyone here? You got jack shit today, step it up man.
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>>129328405
OH NO POLLS HOW WILL TRUMP EVER RECOVER
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>XXI century
>2017 year
>Literally the most powerful and rich country in the world
>no universal free medicine and education

Explain this, burgers
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>>129333670
>literally
stopped reading there
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>>129328405
Nobody likes Trump
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>>129334626

>2017
>voluntarily giving societal drains free shit

I thought Russia was finally ridding itself of its pinko tendencies.
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>>129334626
>Healthcare is "free"
How can people be this retarded
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>>129334868
Our constitution guarantees this basic human rights.

First Section. Main Provisions
Chapter 1. The Fundamentals of the Constitutional System

Article 7

1. The Russian Federation is a social State whose policy is aimed at creating conditions for a worthy life and a free development of man.

2. In the Russian Federation the labour and health of people shall be protected, a guaranteed minimum wages and salaries shall be established, state support ensured to the family, maternity, paternity and childhood, to disabled persons and the elderly, the system of social services developed, state pensions, allowances and other social security guarantees shall be established.
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>>129334626
It's complicated.

After WW2, Europe went about building up welfare states that worked. It was a great achievement. The US was rich enough that everyone could afford health insurance so there was never a need to set up a public system (or at least not much of one). As the elites have got greedier and greedier, these costs have just kept rising and people have dealt with it. But we're at a breaking point now. Problem is that setting up a free system is very hard when the costs are so high. You'd have to build it from the ground up. And the doctors and insurance people who know how to run these things are making so much money that it would be hard to find competent people to staff it.

It's a big fucking shit show, basically. It's going to have to be a process; one thing at a time. And even with the best will at the top, even if Trump wasn't being obstructed at every turn, it would still take a long time to fix.
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>>129334718
Oh, Macron, how drĂ´le.
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>>129335098

Article 39

1. Everyone shall be guaranteed social security at the expense of the State in old age, in case of an illness, disableness, loss of the bread-winner, for upbringing of children and in other cases established by law.

2. State pensions and social allowances shall be established by law.

3. Promotion shall be given to voluntary social insurance and the creation of additional forms of social security and charity.

Article 40

1. Everyone shall have the right to a home. No one may be arbitrarily deprived of his or her home.

2. The bodies of state authority and local self-government shall encourage housing construction and create conditions for exercising the right to a home.

3. Low-income people and other persons mentioned in law and in need of a home shall receive it gratis or for reasonable payment from the state, municipal and other housing stocks according to the norms fixed by law.

Article 41

1. Everyone shall have the right to health protection and medical aid. Medical aid in state and municipal health establishments shall be rendered to individuals gratis, at the expense of the corresponding budget, insurance contributions, and other proceeds.

2. In the Russian Federation federal programmes of protecting and strengthening the health of the population shall be financed by the State; measures shall be adopted to develop state, municipal and private health services; activities shall be promoted which facilitate the strengthening of health, the development of physical culture and sport, ecological and sanitary-epidemiological well-being.

3. The concealment by officials of the facts and circumstances posing a threat to the life and health of people shall entail responsibility according to the federal law.
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>>129335143

>The US was rich enough that everyone could afford health insurance so there was never a need to set up a public system (or at least not much of one).

Maybe we should return to this state of wealth instead of succumbing to Europran Socialism. The only reason they can even afford 'universal' healthcare is because they have no requirement to fund an actual military.

>US cuts its military 70% to afford UHC without taxing the shit out of everything
>abandons Europe
>Russia/Islamic Caliphate march right in
>gg
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>>129335471
Article 42

Everyone shall have the right to favourable environment, reliable information about its state and for a restitution of damage inflicted on his health and property by ecological transgressions.

Article 43

1. Everyone shall have the right to education.

2. Guarantees shall be provided for general access to and free pre-school, secondary and high vocational education in state or municipal educational establishments and at enterprises.

3. Everyone shall have the right to receive on a competitive basis a free higher education in a state or municipal educational establishment and at an enterprise.

4. The basic general education shall be free of charge. Parents or persons in law parents shall enable their children to receive a basic general education.

5. The Russian Federation shall establish federal state educational standards and support various forms of education and self-education.
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>>129335500
>Maybe we should return to this state of wealth instead of succumbing to Europran Socialism
Agreed.

>The only reason they can even afford 'universal' healthcare is because they have no requirement to fund an actual military.
Not exactly. We actually spend a higher proportion of our GDP on health care than they do. It's fucking nuts.

The reason they can afford is that the quality of care isn't quite as high
>every time I go to the doctors, it's fancy top of the range shit everywhere
And there are a lot more old people and minority parasites now.
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>>129335598
Found the kike.
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>>129335500

The Russian army is the second most powerful in the world. We have the largest nuclear ammunition in the world. We can easily defeat fucking NATO (Without USA).

And medicine and education are still free
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>>129334356
wow guess we'll have to implement BASIC INCOME when that happens then we'll all be living in a robot-fueled communist utopia, we'll never have to work again! Paradise!

It's not like an overwhelming majority of the population will dive headfirst into drug and alcohol addictions if that were to happen, lol. Once they have all that free time they'll surely pursue noble pursuits like studying math and writing poetry. It'll be like a real life version of the Garden of Eden.
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>>129336103

Its not free

And its also fucking terrible. Your nation is barely second world. Your economy is in literal ruins.
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Trump should just let Obamacare get to the point where libcucks either admit they were wrong or they die.
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>>129336600

They will still blame Blimpf
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>>129336103
ruissia isnt even a "first world" country....
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>>129336505
found the clinton supporter
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>>129336665
They will die, which is fine with me.
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>>129336693
found the putin shill.
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>>129333554

can you explain what is "free" in "obamacare"
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>>129336691
>freedom of speech
>Scandinavia and Germany
Oy vey

>muh muslims

Tatar and Bashkir muslims were integrated into society even in tsarist times, Caucasian - in the process of integration.

>murders
Shit happens, but we are working on this.

>human development
We have 0.92 HDI in USSR. After the collapse, everything fucked up, but we are gradually recovering.
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>>129336497
Basic income is a terrible idea. People are very quickly degraded. But the social state (ONLY FOR CITIZENS, NOT FOR FUCKING GASTARBEITER OR MIGRANT SHIT) is good
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>>129336505
> Your economy is in literal ruins.
Muh everything is money

This is a normal situation in the Russia. It's always been like this.

Even in the USSR, when our economy was the second in the world (after the US)
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