CATALONIA TO HOLD A REFERENDUM ON 1OCTOBER

Forgot the sauce

>http://www.euronews.com/2017/06/09/catalonia-announces-independence-referendum

come mierda cerdo catalan. El imperio no ha muerto

>>129313805
Good luck friendo

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>>129313805
>Europe still falls for the balkanization meme

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>>129313805
keep me posted

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>>129313805

Yes you will save Yurop right after you get your hair back and fix your lazy eye LOL

Another country you will never afford to visit Remember when you were going to be webdesigner and live on beach in Spain ? LOL at least your net traffic can !

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>>129313805
Catalexit?

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>>129313805

I talk about this in my latest Info Missle:

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>>129274913
>>129274913

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/username/Anonymous12/tripcode/%21%21sRy6nQZXIQw/

>>129314608

Added to the list. Thanks Baldilocks

>>129314596
Cataleave

>>129314596
catasalida

>>129313805
>catalanothing
again

>>129314688

U shouldn't give up on your web dreams Baldilocks. The photoshop you posted on r/MDE a few months ago with A N X I E T Y was a masterpiece ! LOL

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>>129313805
Not even the podemos commies supported it and they literally jump on every chance to destroy Spain

considering we have more than half of the muslim population in the peninsula XD

new catalans, arise!

>>129314968
>Not even the podemos commies supported it
Implying that's a bad thing

>>129313805
junqueras literally said that one of the reasons they want to secede is to make more gender equality laws because ''spain doesnt let us make more laws''

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>>129313805
God speed you magnificent bastards.

>>129313805
Do it already for fuck sake. It will awesome to see how you destroy yourselves with peaceful refugees and no market to sell stuff.

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>>129313805
Sure, countries will allow special snowflake regions to balkanize themself off the mainland by own referendums.

>>129315054
What do you mean? /pol/ has always supported feminism and multiculturalism. Thanks BASED jews!

>>129315128

Listen to Baldilocks. He is an expert in self destruction LOL

>>129315054
Well, obviously they'll have to win an elections first

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>>129315254

It's a good thing your here to fight them Baldilocks ! You will defend Yurope from the Jews from your jail cell LOL

Catalunya governed by ERC and CUP

Are Catalans sure that they want this future??

>>129315582
>>129315478

Getting pretty tired of all these separatist movements lately. And it's never about independence or sovereignty. It's about petty pride, attention-seeking and tribal arrogance.

>>129315582
Catalonia yes!
What you shitlord don't realise is the European spirit of catalonia,catalonia could be in the big cuck leagues if left alone,they have the most muslims in spain and still after all the happenings they marched in hundreds of thousands if cucks united in one voice...WE DEMAND MORE BLACK COCK!!!
If it wasn't for backwards racist spain holding them back they could directly compete with sweden france or germany in terms of cucks.

I want them to be independent,sell everything before it,and get to work in a less busy part of spain thanks to relocation,and watch it burn,i mean yes I'm part catalonian,but...i accept their noble sacrifice as captain sweden did taking all the black cock to satisfy the rapie instincts,and so will catalonia take all the muslims and blacks and give the citizenship since last time at the junts pel si it was voted on a municipal election and thus all shitskins could vote regardless of origin.

Eat shit catacucks,the only thing holding you from falling down to your own demise are the 90% pro spain red pilled individuals still left,but if you want cultural Marxism so bad...you should have it,i think this Sunday there is a meme reunion for independence in montjuic,I'll be happy to see so many perro flautas and commies.
Also...implying The cultural marxist and globalists you ally yourself with care about your identity culture and history....

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>>129316418
Forgot pic

>>129313805
If catalonia becomes independent does that make it a country ?
If Spain allows catalonia to do this where is the logic in preventing Basque from separating ?

>>129316310
You're the arrogant one, you think pride and tribalism is worthless? No one will ever get rid of it, its part of being a human. If you don't have a tribe and pride in yourself you're a tiny little bug ready to get squashed.

>>129313805
I thought this said California! Fuck! One can only hope.

>>129313805
>Happening. We'll save Yurop
God Bless You!

>>129316643

Only weak people rely on their own tribes.

>>129316540
Spain is not allowing it

>>129313805
>We'll save Yurop
By becoming the first european emirate?

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isnt catalonia filled with commies? good luck spainairdniggers

>>129313805
Although it's sad that Spain is breaking apart, I support Catalonian independence solely for the destabilization it'll give to the EU. Hopefully we can follow that up with Scotland and eventually #Grexit.

>>129317247

Commies and Muslims

>>129313805
Nice meme

Who do I need to support? Spain or Catalonia?

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>>129318875
Join the bright side

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>>129319176
>their football hero is some foreign cpt. hindsight

lmao

>>129318875
>brainlet incapable of researching on his own

>>129319176
>appealing to north africans to support their bid for independence
didn't see that coming, oh wait
>https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3393/catalonia-islamic-republic

history is truly a cycle, we always seem to reproduce the sins of our ancestors and never learn from it

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>you will live to see unionist death squads marching on catalan dykes, trannies and their refugee allies

>>129319568
Well the ball is round you know

>>129319677
>>appealing to north africans to support their bid for independence
>didn't see that coming, oh wait
It is a friendly match, we've played against national teams from all around the world: Argentina, China, Yugoslavia, Brazil, Euskal Herria...

>>129319957
be careful about what you're doing, you obviously didn't read the article or are just willing to ignore and dismiss any proofs about the collusion of your government with islamists types. I honestly can't feel anger about this subject anymore, I'm just sad we're going full balkans in a fratricide war between iberian brothers. ultimately, i just hope you finally get what you're looking and cease the incessant media-whining, it will surely mean total chaos but it's unbecoming of anyone with pride and a great history. Whatever happens, godspeed jordi

reminder that catalonians are degenerate and they support the african immigration.

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>>129313805
it is the beginning of the end of spain. soon, there will be no more spain, only castille.

>>129321941
Rude, we're taking Alghero back now

>anarcucks saving anything

More like Scatalonia

>>129313805
Let's secede from spain! they oppress our sovereignty!

>post referendum

EU please take me in! : (

absolute fucking mongs

>>129314596
Catalonelier

>>129316418
correction : they are way worse than France already

>>129314596
>implying the whole point isn't for Catalonia to better centralize its european gibs instead of getting crumbs
Stay delusional.

>damn castillian opressors, im sure completely leaving the EU with 4 billions in debt will be better than being relatively privileged and autonomous within spain

>>129316725
It's basically the same but with paella

>>129313805
Havent they had like 3 referendum and it always gets rejected by Madrid?

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>maintain your "separate identity" from Madrid and the peasants
>hold referendum to remove yourself and preserve your "heritage"
>cram yourself full of refugees

Literally why do this

>>129322956
They are all "consultative referendum", which is technocratistanese for "large-scale polling", none of them had any legal value.
This isn't Quebec that keeps having referundums about independence every now and then just to make sure they didn't change their mind.

>>129314233
Yeah... small shitty states the size of a postal stamp will save Europe from muslims

>>129317375
Stop reading so much breitbart
>Cuckalonia separates from based Spain
>Still part of EU or Schengen zone
>Happily takes more mudshits and niggers
>Full blown cultural marxist government
>Southern version of Sweden
Inb4
>plz tourists come and spend your money, we need your tourist shekels very much

>>129318875
Just pick one (((news))) outlet of your liking and believe everything they say.

>>129313805

Preposterous.

Both Catalonia and Gibraltar are rightful Spanish clay.

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>>129313805
Are drumpfkins even aware how much federal aid the republican states leech?

I hope they leave

>>129314596
cataclysm ?

>>129316310
>tt. Brexit voter

Well if Portugal can exist why not Catalonia.

>>129317375
Scotland is by all measures a commie state bent to accept more mass immigration and welfare for all. Greece has also a very sizable commie population and one of the main culprits accepting millions of mudslimes instead of torpedoing those boats.

EU is shit because is full of communists, and the new embodiment of USSR. Nationalism is good, unless a tiny minority is used to destroy a national state.

>>129313805
>Happening. We'll save Yurop

Will they pay their bills? or do they want independence subsidised by Spain?

Catalonians are very cheeky about that.

The rest of the Spaniards are tired and bored of the independent being a bunch of obnoxious communist scum for 40 years claiming how superior they are to the rest of the country.

Me personally think the Catalonians are retarded, and they should be left to their own devices, they'll end like Venezuela very quickly.

>>129324483
And yeah, USSR was not a national state (not even Russia, btw), nor a willingly accepted union.

>>129322875
>catalonia
>paella

No

>>129313805

>tfw I'm Catalan-American so I respect decentralized power but also know the separatist campaign is built on lies and a rewriting of history

still not sure where I stand, tbqh senpai

>>129316310
>Getting pretty tired of all these separatist movements lately. And it's never about independence or sovereignty. It's about petty pride, attention-seeking and tribal arrogance.

That's what it is, Catalonians want full independence at the expense of the Spanish tax payer, imagine the Scottish gaining independence with a clause that says the English have to pay us reparations until we deem it necessary.

That is what the Catalonians want.

>>129324917
In which world is that happening anon? Keep me informed

>>129313805
What BS are you fags talking about
You want to break off from Spain to accept more refugees

>>129326249
What's this more refugees if you guys split thing people are talking about?

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>>129313805

What would happen if Catalunya leaves? Bakrupcy? Fascism?

>>129326841
No fuckin idea. Not fascism that's for sure

>>129326570
On this thread, many people say this about refugees >>129325922. Why do they say that? How will it get you more refugees? Will it mean, as an independent country, you have to take your """fair""" share that else would get divided over all of Spain?

>>129326953
Well, it could. The remnant of Spain will go to one extreme end, could be left or right.
>>129326970
My question for Catalans is, after you, theoritically, become independent, What will happen to you? You will not become some haven like Switzerland, your politicians are all liberal as fucking shit.

>>129314968

Honestly I don´t care, the moment they get the Independence the moment the Mohammed will have even more influence in Catalonia. it´s going to be hilarious

>>129327182
>Well, it could. The remnant of Spain will go to one extreme end, could be left or right.
wtf I don't see that happening either

>>129327463
Catalonia leaving = Bankrupcy for Spain
Bankrupcy = Communism or Fascism

Just see Greece as an example for this.

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>>129326841
take a look at this analysis of Catalonia in 2012 (now it's worse)
it's quite accurate

>A successful push for independence in the Spanish autonomous region of Catalonia would lead to the establishment of a country with the third-largest percentage of Muslims in Western Europe, just behind France and Belgium, and far ahead of Britain and Germany.
>An independent Catalonia, with its capital in Barcelona, would also be home to the largest concentration of radical Islamists in Europe; it would emerge as ground-zero for Salafi-Jihadism on the continent and become one of the top incubators for Islamist terrorism in the West.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3393/catalonia-islamic-republic

>>129327803
>Spain would go from 2.1% muslim to less than 1%
Wew, I don't mind becoming Castile after that, either way, Castile was based as fuck.

>>129327848
This is the #1 problem of Catalans. You're all focused on the present, but what about the future?

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>>129314731
This

once again loosing time and wasting money for a democratic useless movement... Good lord... seriosly JUST

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>>129327803

>>129313805
>We'll save Yurop
>Well-known immigrant lovers
Only way you can possibly save Europe is to suck in all the immigrant caravans heading to G*rmany and then have Spain block you from EU membership and completely embargo you so nobody gets out.

>>129324543
Except Catalonia is much richer region than the rest of the Spain. You can blame them for lot of things but not for being poor socialist leeches.

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>>129313805
The project is to create a federal european union with only regions, and no more Sovereign countriy.

Because Catalonia wants to stay in the EU. So is Scotland. And so are pro-independence here in France in Corsica and Britain for example.

This is not real independence. This is the project of the Euroregions.

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I don't understand Catalonia
They are genetical the most Mediterranean people in Europe (even above Italy and Greece) but behave like cucked Northerners

>>129328009
>Please, continue reading
ok
>Catalonia, the economy of which is larger than Portugal's (it accounts for one-fifth of Spanish output and generates 30% of its exports), is struggling to make repayments on its €40 billion ($51.5 billion) debt. On August 31, the credit rating agency Standard & Poor's slashed Catalonia's debt to junk-bond status.

>>129328350
read above
they ARE socialist leeches

They won't be allowed to leave until they have payed us all the debt. If no pay, no EU no Republic. Easy, they have about 75.000 millions of euros in debt, it's about 12000 euros per every person that lives in Cataluña. They won't pay, I assure. Also, there are people in military forces like GC or army that won't allow that.

Isn't catalonia a bunch of libcucks, artfags, and marxists? I hope they leave and the rest of spain can go full fascist again.

>>129314596
Catabyebyeguy

>>129328840
It is, sadly, I miss the Carlism in Cataluña. It will be nice if they leave but they give us all the debt and all the money that all Spain put there into industries, if not, I can only see a little war like the oil ones

>>129328491
If they are the leeches then why was it used as argument for independent Catalonia some years ago that they no longer want to be paying Madrid for the life of other Spanish people. Also Madrid was really worried for losing such a high income region. What other reason would there even be for independence except money if they can already have their language? I don't know which people are lying anymore.

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>>129313805
what are the pro and cons about a indipendent Catalonia?

>>129328477
inferiority complex, it's like seeing nietszche's rise of the untermensch come to life

>>129328350
>not for being poor socialist
we have the highest taxes
a lot of propaganda is being pushed for socialization of utilities, actually utilities providers can't cut supplies to poor people, so people that don't work and spend their welfare in alcohol and tobacco can spend unlimited water and electricity all payed for the rest of users, tons of welfare more in the making

>>129324469
Winning wars is something that an Emu can't understand.

>>129329013
Do you refer to EU or Catalonian guys?

>>129329013
>pros
venezuela in europe
chance of civil war

>cons
none

Can someone give me the quick rundown? Are Catalonians left wing loons who want even more diversity and free money?

>>129329085
both

>>129329137
>chance of civil war
im ok with this

let me guess catalonia but without syndicalism

>>129329102
that's a too smart for me way of defaulting on your debt, catalan intelectuals everyone

>>129329141
>>129328458
You don't need a basic gesalt when there'e a truth bomb in the thread

>>129329102
EU won't allow you if no debt pay... Assume that fren. If not in the EU you would last months without banks and shit, they wouldn't want to stay with you. Right PP sucks as CiU (JxS). It's sad for you, but united we grow. I went to Barcelona 2 years ago, all Raval, Ramblas, Gothic Neihbourhood and all around is full of bad people. And more incoming to you if independance

WIL ILL DESTROY THE EUROPE UNION , BASED KEKTALANS AHAHHAHAHAHA


crash the union with no survivors.


t.voting for independence

>>129316540
Basque is not that cucked, they are smarter while they think they are different but they know while they live better being part of spain they wont want to independize

>>129329474
This is bad for you, I mean, you have the right of speaking if all people can understand you. When I went Catalonia I had troubles with some Rodalies guys because they kept talking in catalan even when I said I couldn't understand most of that they were saying. That is the bad thing about you.

>>129313805
based polish brothers :D

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>>129329585
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>>129318875
SPAIN european regionalism is destroying the UE

Also it will be like all the others referendums catalonia made it will be considered with no values and their local pm will be prosecuted

>>129329757
I mean european regionalism pushed by the UE is destroying european nations

>>129323209
why not, if each one have power of israel and nuclear bombs.

>>129329071
yup spain and portugal was same country about 1580 then they declare a war and independize catalonians just has been complaining for centuries

>>129314233
>>129323209
yeah. Nothing better than large abstract bureaucracies with no accountability owned by a small elite of billionaires to ensure the interests of the local population are being served.

>>129329577
It will not destroy the UE it will just destroy spain catalonia will be a devout member of the UE because it's a no country and they will need the assistance of the UE.
It's exactly like SCOTLAND

>>129328477
aren't Catalonians descendants of Goths?

>>129329961
Frog fren, EU wont allow Catalonia unless they pay the debt, which is nearly impossible

>>129329474
>For example if 1 student in a class wanted to speak spanish, the WHOLE class have to speak in spanish because we cant discriminate his rights.
Wow you have really good country when acting linguistic minority special snowflake works both ways.

>>129329322

I saw that comment before. I admit I hadn't thought of the EU doing this. The SNP basically just hate England and want more gibsmedat.

>>129326389
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/18/protesters-in-barcelona-urge-spain-to-take-in-more-refugees

>>129330076
There will be no Catalonia independence outside of the UE the catalans are too much cuck to vote for a country independant from the union

>>129314608
can't even spell missile

The UE supports regionalism you daft cunts, turning big nation states into shitty regions dependant of the union is their dream. Notice by the way that most independentists (except for Corsica) are fucking lefties, that should ring a bell.

Spain wont allow them to be independent, it would break our constitution statements, which is unnaceptable.
In the case they declare independent, spanish army would be deployed to enforce the constitutional order in Catalonia. Their leaders would be jailed and processed.
On the other hand, Europe would be on Spain side and independent Catalonia would never be part of the EU.

This is the redpill on Catalonia.

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>>129330159
What a bunch of complete faggots. Why are Barthenonans like this?
When will Franco 2.0 come in to bring them to heel.

>>129330713
Yup. Their plan is to break up all the states so that it's nothing but a bunch of shitty little Luxembourg-tier principalities who individually cannot throw enough weight around to impact the EU overlords

>>129330761
The biggest deal is that they really believe in "im saving yurop" meme

>>129329924
The Catalonians can bring arms if they want Independence so bad and WIN the Independence War.

If Spain defend its territorial sovereignty in every way - including Ifni War, the Basque conflict and some islets like in Perejil Island crisis, it can do the same to the Catalans.

Referendums are for gays.

>>129330847
this remind me somehow the holy roman empire of 600 years ago, before prussia become powerful

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>>129330931
one wise man once said "we have to cannon the city of barcelona once every 50 years" independence is nothing new but catalonians are so cucked

>>129330932
I'm not too familiar with HRE politics, but that sounds about right at a glance.

Well, except if the HRE's main goal was to kill off its own people and replace them with muslims, rather than fighting against them.

>>129331105
But WHY? What makes them such marxist faggots?

Fuck, I don't understand how ANYONE in Spain can want this shit when 700 years of your history was spent subjugated by Muslims.

>>129329585
>Underage
MOOOOOOODS

>>129331105

Can you could solve this if you reform Spain to some Union/Federation: all Spanish bow to the Spanish Head of State - territories from former Crown of Aragon are ruled diferente from territories from the former Crown of Castille. Make them Québec of Spain?

>>129331264
Barcelona has been one of the most important centers of iberic anarchism. In the civil war the whole city fell under their control. There is so much historical shit that makes Barcelona a leftist city.

>>129329585
You have to go back to Forocoches

>>129331447
I know, I know. But I'm asking WHY. Why did it go anarchist/marxist in the first place?

>>129325778
is military or police intervention possible?

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>>129331264
They used to be Carlists, basically ultra-traditionalists christians. We can thank (((them))) for this.
Pic related is a tranny jew who was going to get a degree on teaching. Thank god this kike got BTFO for fucking up.

>>129331361
not really, they will keep complaining about "muh identity" catalonians are justa bunch of faggots that want more money with so fucking high pride that doesnt really realize how the world is working, and have much more benefits that any other autonomus country, if the independence succed many business will relocate probably into valentia becouse they dont want to be out of eurozone and catalonia will start accepting more refuges with lack of control, will be a open pithole for all the inmigrants who wants benefits without working or even knowning the language

>>129331553
I think it is, in order to enforce the constitutional order if they eventually declare independent. Military intervention is the last plan though.

>>129331553
Yes, but that's only if a major shitstorm happens, Catalonians don't have an ETA.

>>129328458
Wow, stealing Frisia is really rude.

>70% of catalan exports goes to the rest of Spain
dumb move tbqh

>>129331685
I remember some Catalonian leaders came to Slovenia a few months ago to ask about our independence movement in the '90s and went on to praise our quick succession and if we have any tips for them lol.

If they aren't retarded they might prepare for an invasion though. What bothers me is that Spain's government doesn't talk about what it might do.

>>129331929
> Catalonians don't have an ETA

neither did we, our local populace joined the fight though. If they antagonize Catalonians too much you can be pretty sure they will fight.

>>129323836
>>129323836

> Spain

> based

>>129324291

Do Hillshills even know which parts of the republican states leech the most money? Oh right, it's the blue centers, the cities :^)

>>129332042
Spanish goverment have never face such complex challenge. Rajoy has already shown his inoperance in easier deals, so in this case you can imagine...Things will get worse and our government will be unable to control the situation properly.

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>mfw the last thing we do before fully leaving the EU is to veto Catalan's membership application

>>129313805
Aren't you guys a bunch of leftists like the rest of Europa?

>>129313805
good luck , started liking you because of the football team, now because your nationalism

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>>129313805
>>We'll save Yurop
Catalonia the most cuck region in Spain, with more moors, more multiculti and more feminist than the rest of the country
Catalonia, who has deals with Israel

>>129330761
Hopefully never, he was an awful leader. Sucking hard catholics cocks...

>>129313805
I misread as California
Fuck you for getting my hopes up.

CATALUÑA SERA LLIURE!

By the way spainbros would you pay us the pensions and keep lending money for embassies and whatnots? Cause Jews don't want to build casinos no more

For the foreigners with high hopes
The moment anyone in Catalonia sign something to make it official is getting sued.
As long as our constitution exists, nothing will ever happen.

Nothing happening

>Catalonia
no such thing

>>129332678

If this is the case, wouldnt' Catalonian independence be an enema?

>>129326249
>that's not even a primary objective.
So it is an objective? Just not the main focus

>>129335942
yup getting their pride high as fuck, they think thats an easy way out to get more money.

>>129313805
>(((Commie-talonia)))

Fixed it for you :*

>>129313805
Spain wont let you leave. Cataloina will no longer be in Spain, and therefore you wont be under NATO protection.

>>129313805
enjoy trying to convince castillians to allow it
protip: aint gonna happen

also enjoy fighting the castillians
protip: they will kick your ass

>>129314596
>Catalexit

Nope, they still want those german gibsmedats, they don't want to share them with those evil espanyols.

Yes Europe, keep splitting into smaller states. Makes you all the easier to claim on behalf of her majesty. The ANGLO will find you.

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>>129328477
>the most Mediterranean people
Take the catalan redpill nigger.

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>>129313805

This time is for real, I swear.

>>129324713
Inform yourself better because there are no lies exept those coming from pro-spanish circles.

>>129324917
It's very different from the UK mate. There England is both the biggest and most populated region and the better economically, while in Spain Castile is the biggest and most populated region but their economy sucks compared to Catalonia and the Basque country.
We have been giving them gibs for centuries and if they get so mad with independence is because they know they are toast once we leave.
>Catalonia has 16% of total Spain's population
>19% of Spain's GDP
>26% of exports
>24% of value of industrial production
>24% of high-tech workers
>26% of tourism
They will become a third world country.

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>>129324647
Paella is actually from arabs, even stole name, "pallau" in arabic. Also know as pilaf. Haha spanish niggers.

>>129338792
well we stole their country why wouldnt we stole their best dishes?

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>>129330341
Are those who want independence for Lorraine leftists too?