Whats wrong with this picture /pol/?

>>129301654
Communists don't support nationalism. Their whole ideology revolves around the goal of a world without borders, social class, and eventually, government.

>>129301654
Communism is Jewish. Communism pretending to not be Jewish is even more Jewish.

>>129301761
National Socialists dont believe in social class government worship or false borders.

>>129301654
The first Soviet government was 80% jewish.

The communist leaders of the German.Revolution were 90% jewish.

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>>129301905

>>129301654

Why isn't the fash pushing the commie out of his helicopter in this picture? It makes no sense

>>129301654
>the jewUSSR fought against Apartheid and supported all nigger and spic decolonization movements
Yeah they wuz nationalists and shit

>>129301761
they want a single nation on earth.
that is ultra nationalism.

>>129301905
What?

National Socialists are somewhat similar to Stalin's "Socialism In One Country" policy in the sense that they advocate for social programs and a welfare state, but they do this with the goal of making the nation strong and ethnically homogeneous, while Communists intend to spread their belief worldwide

>>129302224
Not quite

They don't want a single nation, they want no nations at all

>>129302224
That is anti nationalism.

>egalitarianism
ew not even once

>>129302310
how?
it is an expanding nation that will eventually claim all and assert its superiority.
at least to them.

>>129302543
No

It's a non-nation

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>>129301654

Bolsheviks are Jews.

>>129302301
but they want a single government ruling over the earth. they need something to keep it all together. it can't be race for obvious reasons, so it is nationalism. they will use nationalism to keep their world wide nation together.

>>129302621
care to explain your reasoning?

>>129302543
A nation is a race, those are multiple races and nations.

>>129302890
Again national socialists hold no loyalty to governments, races create governments governments do not create races.

>>129302787
Like I said in my second post, the eventual goal of communism is complete disintegration of class, ultimately leading to an egalitarian "commune" with no leadership

>>129302890
definition of a nation:
"a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory."
so, it can be race but it doesn't need to be.

>>129303018
oh okay. didn't know about that. thanks!

>>129303065
A false definition, the only nation as in the true connection of people is race.

>>129303065
Here, it's race.

>>129301654
Nothing, you just have to remember to get rid of the NazBols later. There were a lot of NatSocs that were Strasserists, but they got purged. Lookup Beef steak nazi.

>>129303018
National Socialists do not brlueve in classes, they believe in individuals roghts to not be a slave and thus own himself while being part of a community and his duties, national socialusts gives more property and ownerships to more people while communism in theiry enslaves all and in practice enslaves the goyim.

>>129301761
this
fuck communists and Anglojuden

>>129302224
The end goal is stateless
And all races mixing till the white one is gone

>>129301896
This. The meme is inherently false

>>129301654
It's a shame communism has been hijacked by literal globalist faggots and trannies, we couldve teamed up for our mutual goals but now weve devolved to LARPers punching each other on the street, I wonder (((who))) could be behind that

>>129303132
i can't argue if you are going to play the definition game. we need to agree on a common definition, and the definition i posted is what most people go by. so when commies say that they are nationalists they mean that. most people do.

>>129302100
Because OP is still in middle school. Enjoy entire long hot wet American summer

>>129303474
yeah, another anon told me about that.
still thanks for posting though.

>>129303018
HoW NoBLe!!!!!!

Fuck commies

>>129303166
but it doesn't need to be. it can also be about people living in the same territory.

>>129302100
>nazi
>fash

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>>129301905
>National Socialists dont believe in government worship

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>>129303555
Is it really?

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>>129301654
>icantbelieveitsleftypol.jpeg

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>>129301654
because communism is a fundamentally flawed ideology

>>129303619
A governmeng is a hovernment it can be crafted thus is mot true, you mean to say a world government, and I say nationalism for the government of the true connections.

>>129303764
leftypol fucking hates NazBol

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>>129303757
They dodnt worship Austrian government or Polish government.

>>129303555
And yet 1 of the only 3 countries keeping the Rothschilds the fuck out is Communist and another is commonly referred to as such. REALLY MAKES YA THINK.

>>129303295
National Socialism (and other forms of fascism) rely on a distinct social hierarchy, with the Fuhrer (or whatever other term used) at the top, followed by men appointed by him, etc. etc. There is, in fact, a class system, however it is determined by loyalty to the Fuhrer and what you can bring to the table to aid the state.

>>129303474
Not to mention all other races. Race mixing destroys all other races as well, which is something that should be used by ethnonationalists to garner support for their cause and create other ethnostates for other races.

>>129303563
Communism has always been inherently globalist, I explain why here

>>129301761

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>>129303844
>implying it's not a slippery slope shill tactic
You're either the result of one too many emu rapes or you're leftypol desperately attempting damage control.

>>129303769
NAFA (not a fucking argument)

>>129303773
i see. what i was saying is that is usually what people mean by when talking about "nationalism".
besides, nothing wrong with people of different races supporting their country.

>>129303926
Literal subhumans

>>129303896
There is no class system, there is heirarchy of all classes on who can best lead the race, they climb thd ladder on merits not on class, and are never a class identity but simply a role of the race to benefit all.

>>129304024
>Slav calls other people subhumans

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>>129303950
Replace "country" with Government, I dont care who worships what government, its completely irrelevsnt to me and my people, my people are not a government.

>>129304025
Not necessarily. In Hitler's Germany, men that could prove 100% Aryan lineage up to around 1750 were to receive more property in Eastern Europe to raise their families following Lebensraum.

>>129304025
There is no I am this class idependant of will of others, therd is I have the power granted to me by my people I must serve as their fist and will.

>>129304132
>commies are human
t. 1/16 negro 1/64 amerindian

I've realized the truth is national socialism and communism result in one and the same: big government, character worship, eventually dictatorship. A monarchy, even.


Individualism is the only way to salvation. - Ron Paul

>>129303879
Which countries?

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>>129304519
lmao, horseshoe fag pls go

>>129304187
your people do get affected by the country they live in.

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>>129303563
maybe it's because it was made by fucking jewish globalists you flaming kike shill

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>>129304132
>honorary aryans (Financed by Zionism) lost the war to communistic slavs untermensch

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>>129304894
>Financed by Zionism
Truly my favorite meme on this website

>>129301761
>>129301896
>>129301947
>What is NazBol
I guess NatSoc were socialists as well then. They really liked welfare and hated banks after all.

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>>129301654
Nothing.

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>>129305239
>what is nazbol
Kikes pretending to be natsocs

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>>129305296
It's funny because that quote's from Strasser, not Hitler. The same Strasser who was specifically ordered to be allowed to bleed to death rather than be given the mercy of a short sharp shot during the night of long knives.

>>129305239
This is the funniest thing about retards on this board who think lolbergism and National Socialism are compatible. Hitler believed in having a welfare conscious society, something libertarians would shit their pants over because it means they would have to give a little bit of their money to help their own.

>>129305239
National SOCIALISTS were socialists, Hans. However, they had a different goal from the bolsheviks in Russia, who aimed to expand communist influence around the globe. NatSocs, on the other hand, want to keep their socialized government within the country/race.

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>>129305602
Almost correct. National socialists followed prussian socialism, as defined by Hitler himself as socialism that is pro-private property and pro-individualism. National bolsheviks are communists that follow the jewish economic system of marxist socialism while following the social policies of national socialism.

>>129301761
Socialism in One Country did.

>>129305602
National Socialism was capitalist. The "Socialist" part was tacked on so they could get support from leftists. They eventually killed all the Socialists on the Night of the Long Knives.

>>129305490
It's not about being compatible. It's that National Socialism is closer to the ideal libertarian society than what we have now.

>>129305848
The socialist part was because it used the concept of prussian socialism, which the leftists mistook for their marxist bullshit and joined without realizing what exactly they were getting into. Hence the necessity of the night of long knives.

>>129304693
it's not horseshoe; they're inherently linked. Government-controlled economy, which will always fuck up

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>>129306061
>Government-controlled economy, which will always fuck up
Tell that to NSDAP Germany, libby tard.

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>>129305848
I agree for the most part. Nazi Germany was capitalist, with a lot of nationalized industry and social programs (as you said, Prussian Socialism). However, I fail to see how NatSoc promotes individualism. If anything, NatSoc seems to be a solid example of a very collectivist, militaristic, and nationalist state. Of course, that isn't to say collectivism is bad. I think it's the only way a group can really achieve a goal.

>>129305848
Yes, but not only did Stalin not live very long after the war, Malenkov and Krushchev immediately started funding communist revolutionary groups around the world, thereby abandoning the concept of "Socialism in One Country."

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>>129306132
>socialism
>works

>>129301654
>Whats wrong with this picture /pol/?
Communism is Jewish.
National Socialism is Aryan.

Communism and National Socialism can never "get along" because Communism wishes to destroy the White race while National Socialism wishes to save the White race.

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>>129306448
>muh NAP, the autistic libertarian cries as his preshus system goes permanently untried throughout history
Meanwhile NatSoc managed to produce a country that was so powerful it took 6 years of 3 of the world's greatest superpowers in combined arms to put it down. Really makes you think.

>>129306448
The world is not binary. Dogmatic idiots manage to turn economy into religion

>>129306132
>What is a war economy
It was Keynesianism on steroids. It would have collapsed on itself if it weren't for the war.

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>>129306846
>muh war economy maymay
You act like I haven't heard and debunked this meme plenty of times lol

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>>129301654
Communism does not value the individual. It is a collectivist ideology. Communists are cuckolds.

>>129306846
Didn't the U.S. do the exact same thing? And we ended up becoming to most powerful country in the world post-war.

>>129301654
It sucks, poor quality and thumbnail hurts my eyes...

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>>129306846
But if you're genuinely interested on how the NSDAP economy worked without spouting shilled memes, read this.

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>>129301654

The Nazis and Nazbols should have knives behind their backs as if waiting the other to turn his back for even a second.

>>129307003
Ok, can someone please explain this "NatSoc promotes individualism" meme to me? NatSoc seems like the polar opposite of an individualist society.

>>129307148
Do you have a link to a web hosting of this?

I like to have bots read shit to me while I do other shit.

>>129307247
http://www.ihr.org/other/economyhitler2011.html
IHR as a whole is a highly informative site regarding natsoc.

>>129307327
Thanks, anon.

>>129301761
Not true...That's was Trotsky idea but Stalin understood that it's not possible

>>129307163
It promotes the ownership of property and private business (as long as they don't go against the best interests of the people or the satate). National socialism is the idea that the government is not a seperate and protected class like in capitalism and communism, but rather a collection of public offices held by the people so long as they're qualified. Think of national socialism as a mix between communism and capitalism. There's no good reason to go to either extreme and fuck over your own people when you can have the best of every system.

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>>129307513
Oh yeah, based stalin amirite xD

>>129306485
OMG you burgers are so brainwashed Classic Communism never was about killing the white race actually they pretty like it ...you can see russian wearing adidas and listing to led zeppelin back in the 70's actually they pretty liked the white race and even spare their life after the great raping in Germany

>>129303018
This guy won an argument with a leaf baka.

>>129304959
>Implying that isn't a media cover up made up by the crypto-zionist NSDAP deep state to make it appear as though the Jews wage war on Germany

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>>129301905
You American kikes ruin everything.

Wonder who could be behind this post.

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>>129307764
>flag

A stateless and classless society can't be nationalist. A nation cannot exist without homogeneity or borders.

>>129306846

This

The working conditions on many of the Reich's public works projects were also incredibly poor even prior to the outbreak of the war. Strikes were occurring as early as 1935 over the conditions on the Reichsautobahn.

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>>129307967
>*autistic lobertardian screeching continues*
>muh freedumbs

>>129307581
Thank you for your reply. I already understood that economically, NatSoc is on a level of Socialized capitalism. What I was referring to was NatSoc society. It certainly seemed like you were part of a larger machine, like an army. Ultra-Nationalist societies like Nazi Germany definitely encouraged people to be willing to give their lives for the nation and the government. Not to mention the whole idea of Aryan blood tying Germans together. Ethnonationalism is probably one of the most collectivist concepts in politics, then and now.

>>129307938
This guy gets it

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>>129307891
NAHTZEES BTFO

>>129301761
What's the Naz in Nazbol mean?

>>129308698
Nazbol is an absolute fucking meme. It tries to bridge the gap between NatSoc/Fascism and Communism, and does so in a way that turns away people from both camps.

>>129302224
The comunist end wank is no nation no government.

>>129308698
National Bolshevism, it's shortform of Nazi Bolshevik. In other words, communist garbage,

>>129302754
No. Thats socialism. Communism means no government.

>>129301761
Where did you hear those lies?

desu I'd support a white only communism.

>>129309861
Please elaborate on what you mean by that. Communism has always been extremely globalist, as evidenced by Marx's writings and Soviet foreign policy.

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>>129309861
Ahahahahhaha my sides

>>129310044
nah the nationalism part, Soviets had nationalism if anything.

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>>129309861
>c-c-communism m-might work if i-it's whites only, r-right?
>*gets shot*

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>>129310369
Ah yes, look at this glorious... nationalism.

>>129310369
What are you talking about? I just told you there's no such thing as communist nationalism.

>>129308176

Germany has a larger population and industrial base than most of the countries on that chart.

Also, the US still experienced far more growth (albeit with massive public spending as well).

>>129301654
communists are not people and should not be tolerated
natsocs and commies fought each other for fucks sake

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>>129314423
>it doesn't count because i don't like it
Lobertardians truly are the funniest.

>>129302224
A nation and a state are not the same thing.

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>>129301654
It isn't this one.

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>>129316612
Nice AIDS there buddy.

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>>129301905

There's one thing I remember communists did in Russia that is awe inspiring. They managed to civilize a few negroes. They actually invited them to Russian universities and taught them with some success. I don't know how they did it as we can clearly see their efforts cannot be naively reproduced but they did it.

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/pol/ needs to stop with the Nazi thing and get back to the fundamentals, or else you are literally just right-wing Stalinists.

Either be NatSoc and stop with all the Nazi iconography (you'll never get people to side with you with that), or pick an icon that doesn't have so much baggage. It's all about optics, that's why Alinsky said to Marxists to cut your hair and put on a suit.

>>129303844
Not at all.

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>>129301654
Hitler hates commie more than he hates Jews.

the jew is not trying to steal something

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>>129301654

Why do you lefty/pol/ neckbeards pretend to be anti semitic to fit in? Terrible shilling this is just pathetic

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>>129320836
Denying the holocaust serves the same purpose. You just need a tiny window for people to suspend their disbelief for just long enough to be vulnerable. Then you can inundate them with whatever rhetoric you please.

Jews call this a 'foot-in-the-door' tactic.

>>129321612
>denying the holocaust

You didn't even pay attention to a word I said, did you? What is your obsession with this one event, in one country, on a continent with over 2,000 years of history?