Is Metal Gear Solid 2 the most redpilled game to ever be made?

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Yes

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Deus Ex also

Idk but its the best video game ever made.

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>>129285185
that entire 1st paragraph is what Alex Jones was talking about on the joe rogan show

>>129287465
THIS

did you know mgs2 on the PS2 ran at a silky smooth 60fps

FUCKING 60 FPS ON PS2
SO FUCKING OPTIMIZED
HNNNNG

>>129287843
>>129287465
I beat this game so many times back when I was 13-14 but I was too young and knew nothing about politics to understand. I need to play it again now that I'm old a jaded almost 30 year old. /blog

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>>129287843
>>129288055
based anons

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>>129284256
No, the MGS is an absolute mess that is full of stuff that 'sounds cool'. Just because some of the shit they flung at a wall stuck doesn't mean it's redpilled. Hell, MGS1 is the only game that isn't absolute trash. Try Deus Ex.

>>129287718
Link?

>>129284256
this game had its ear to the ground when it came to how technology would shape the world over the following decades

>>129288055
play extreme mode and only use non-lethal weapons

its the only true way to experience mgs2

pepper ur angus for the REX fight

video games are a degenerate waste of time
>kys

>>129288350
https://youtu.be/fAh0r4C6Q2Q?t=1m15s

>>129288055
>checked
I played through it and MGS1 for the first time as a 30 year old recently
I've never been much of a gamer but I thought it was great

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>>129288218

>>129288668
buckle up buckaroos. Gets really good right about 3min in but the whole thing is deep as fuck.

>>129287843
>did you know mgs2 on the PS2 ran at a silky smooth 60fps

I know now, but back then before I knew what frames even were, all I knew was that this game ran smooth as fuck, especially the Tanker chapter.

MGS2 blew my fucking mind like no other game had done before. Going from MGS1 on the PS1 to MGS2 was the biggest gap in graphics I've ever seen.

>>129284256
No! That is NOT Solid Snake!

Yeah

That part at the end where they talk about 'post truths' and 'bubbled communities' was made in fucking 2001 and here we are in 2017 with exactly what he was describing.

The ending monologue by Snake is also fucking great.

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>>129288999
>the Tanker chapter.
yeah that was awesome. I'm still not a big raiden fan tho. Gif related

Who wrote MGS2? Kojima? How did he have such a foresight to predict what the internet would do to life in the 2010s? The game came out in 2001. Pretty fucking amazing.

>>129289092
I just wonder how could one person have that kind of foresight for technology and be able to apply it to the context of a video game in fucking 2001 like Kojima did? It's honestly amazing every time I go back to play that game.

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kojima is a brilliant visionary

>>129289454
>>129289583
hivemind?

Who /DeathStranding/ here?
Does it look like more redpillkino?

>>129289583
>>129289454
Hive mind in full effect

>>129289650
Lol great minds think alike I suppose. But I do think Kojima is brilliant. It's too bad that he couldn't complete his work on MGSV.

>>129289650
>>129289756
Fug

mgs2 definitely a classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-2YuPGYabw

A lot of scenes from MGS2 seem ripped from The End of Evangelion. Some crazy mindfuckery going on in both.

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>>129284256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhkRQUtD_Jo

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>>129289683
Every MGS has been redpilled as hell, so of course it will be. Even Phantom Pain. Main villain is a Hungarian born in the 30s, who had run ins with Nazis growing up, despises the west and wants to covertly destroy it from within. SOUND FAMILIAR?

>>129289798
That video was so in depth it's insane. I had to rewatch a few times to rudely understand what he was discussing.

>>129284256
Best game ever. And yes.

>>129288218
Metal Gear Solid was the apex of the series.

MGS3 was decent, but still nothing more than a self-referential prequel/origin story. Fun to play though.

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>>129289954
>Main villain is a Hungarian born in the 30s, who had run ins with Nazis growing up, despises the west and wants to covertly destroy it from within

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>>129284256
yes

>>129289683
Too bad it probably won't be released for another few years. Kojima is going to take his sweet ass time with this game I'd bet especially after MGSV.

Legend of Zelda NES is the best game of all time. MGS2 is top 50.

>>129289454
>>129289583

Kojima read a bunch of Postmodernist texts that explained that shit. He reads a lot in general.

MGS2 just communicated those ideas to millions of people who would have never read the academic papers he did.

>>129286355
you can kill kids in this game

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MGSV is the most redpilled game

>>129289454
>>129289583

Woah.. we said almost the same exact things.

Reality is weird sometimes.

>>129288055
r u me?

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Plenty of fun to be had in Stellaris too.

>>129284256
MGS 3 was pretty fucking based too, then 4 came along and cocked it up.

Witcher series is pretty redpilled too, though more subtle with non humans being a metaphor for dinudes and jews, etc.

MARIO is redpilled because MARIO and Peach have Blue eyes

>>129289954

Now Soros just needs to burn his face and wear a mask and scream "SUCH A LUST FOR REVENGE" when confronted.

So should we just sit back and accept our Patriot overlords if they're to save us from all this?

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yes

>>129290700
yes, me. Its you.

>>129291037
Come on anon, the la li lu le lo conspiracy again? What kind of tinfoil cuck would think they rule the world. Do the New England la li lu le lo play a part in this retarded conspiracy? Smdh

>>129291241
so much 4sight

>>129291037
If you can name and discuss them, tey're not even close to being your actual enemy.
That's like the whole point of MGS2.

>>129291409

The la-li-lu-le-lo? What are you talking about, Snake.

>>129284256
Of course. Look at this:
>>129285185
Now remember what the internet was like back then. This was made before 9/11.

>>129291435
I mean, Kojima clearly wants to snuggle up in those rugs forever.

>>129288055
Do it. Recently played it, and it really was like I was playing it for the first time.

>>129287465
Now this is just false. As good as the plot was, most of the gameplay innovations like the highly interactive environments are only there in the early game. Halfway through the game it gets really boring in terms of gameplay when you're mostly backtracking and sneaking through samey linear corridors. Purely as a game, it can't be the best ever since MGS3 is better.

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wait until you get a load of Senator Armstrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWQd8zhEg4

>extremely wealthy presidential candidate with an exuberantly confident straight talking strong man persona who uses the threat of muslim attackers to manipulate internet outrage into getting him elected so he can enact his isolationist self-sufficiency policies to cure all the pussy liberal bullshit he hates about modern american culture and stop getting dragged into other countries wars and literally says he's going to "make america great again" by "expanding our memes on the internet"

keep in mind this game was published in February 2013

>>129289683

Death Stranding is about (a) higher power/s that gave humanity a chance only to watch humans squander their potential. That much you can gather from the trailer alone.

>>129288218
>TFW Deus Ex predicted the rise of /pol/ shitposting

>>129291519
>If you can name and discuss them, tey're not even close to being your actual enemy.
>Can't name or discuss Jews without being an anti-semite

Story checks out.

>>129288151
Fucking hell the level of detail in this game never ceases to amaze me. Based Japs and their autism.

>>129289264
Everything about that .gif is perfect...

that said, i actually like raiden(not as much as snake, but *almost* as much. I'm a gay dude who finds him attractive, so that kinda muddies it. I find all the variants of snake attractive too, but raiden is more my 'type'.)

MGS2 is a masterpiece, btw. Its far more obtuse than it needs to be, but the message it conveys once you actually understand it is pretty damn brilliant and very apt for the world today.

>>129292319
That's still entry level shit.
Just wait until your nanomachines makes you say or hear some bullshit when you want to say "jew".

>>129289954
Holy shit, how did I not notice that connection? That's insane.

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is it

>>129292763
The real mindfuck is if he is trying to say something else, but only "jew" is coming out.

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>>129291037

The cure for 1984 is 1776.

>>129288668
Thanks senpai

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>>129284256
Kek. Fuck no.

Pic related is THE most redpilled game... ever. If you don't understand, watch closely...
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xjGHXU9FVE

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>>129290148
MGS3 was less political in terms of being prescient but more philosophical in its politics.

It focused much more on the fundamental notion of loyalty and moral goodness.

The Boss gives Snake the Legacy in the hopes that he will keep it OUT of the hands of a nation, who will ultimately and inevitably try to use it to gain dominance for themselves at the cost of others.

The Boss envisions a world where we are not divided emotionally or mentally from each other by arbitrary divisions in the tangible world, like borders or nations.

Her vision is accidentally fulfilled by Solid, rejected by Naked in Peace Walker and intentionally sought after by Venom.

>>129290404
Kek, totally unrelated but good timing i guess

good game but the end turned into an autistic mess with the general rambling on about god knows what and random conspiracies. I played on but I had no idea what he was talking about

>>129294127
>conspiracies
>aka: things that actually came true

>>129293689
Kek'd at big boss.

>>129289798
haha, there are screenshots of /pol/ from 2013 in this video

>>129294213
I was hyped about it, even pre-ordered it at ebgames. played the fuck out of it on the first day it was released. I have very fond memories of it, i'm just saying it was incomprehensible at the end

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>>129291639
No it wasn't

>>129292974
jew jew jew jew jew?
jew jew jew.

>>1292944432
How old were you, and when is the last time you played it?

I just bought the HD collection and I'm really enjoying myself so far. I played MGS3 when it came out on the PS2 and really liked it, then played PO, PW, and started playing through 5 but I wanted to take a step back and go through them in release order to get the full effect of what Kojima wanted to show us.

By the end of MGS2 (which I just beat yesterday), I didn't even want to fight Solidus at all.

>>129284256

That's not Tetris

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>>129294432
>from 2013
feels like yesterday...

>>129294490
He said made before 9/11, not released before then. Are you telling me MGS2 was developed in just two months?

>>129294490
Yes, Kojima CLEARLY hadn't completed the final draft of the script two months before release.

>>129294490
It was released after, but made before. In fact, they had to remove a scene that was already done because it had Arsenal Gear crashing into New York.

>>129294490
Please be bait.

>>129294540
meant for
>>129294442

>>129294557
Solidus did nothing wrong. I wish that he had joined Solid Snake at the end.

Also, I remember being totally confused about Rose. Why did Jack know her when it was pretty clear that Jack had no life outside of sims, at least since he was a kid.

>>129288151
shit I never noticed that

>>129294680
I was 15. I wasn't too politically aware of anything at that time, so the final act was impossible for me to grasp. I vividly remember trying to not get raidens girlfriend to drown or something. bitch kept running out of air and I had to do that fucking segment like 500 times

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>>129293357
I can't believe it....... all our red pills are there

>>129290404
You also debate and/or kill a commie in a bar. It lets me live out my dreams that I'll never achieve because of crippling autism.

>>129294764
He wouldn't have lasted long.
He staged his revolt because he realize his aging factor is pushing him to death very soon

>>129294851
I told you anon.

>>129292559
>shoot ice bucket
>ice cubes slowly grow smaller (melt)

KOJIMAAAAAAA

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Pic related is the patrician choice

I remember playing this game beating it in one night. By the time I got to the last part when you're in a facility naked as Raiden I was delusional being up past midnight. SHIT WAS CASH

>>129295150
same. bought the ps2 and didn't have a memory card yet so i had to beat it in one sitting. that was a fucking amazing night.

Why is GTA V so bluepilled? So disappointing.

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>>129295150
Seriously though, you have been playing the game for a long time. Don't you have anything better to do with your time?

>>129294764
>Also, I remember being totally confused about Rose

I'm still a bit confused about that too. I guess you just have to take it at face value that Raiden did do something when not working in sims, and that was when Rose was sent to intercept him and follow his movements. I'm not sure why he went with her after the end of the game, maybe the Patriots wiped his memories about the conversations he just had with Campbell and Roy?

At the end of MGS1 when we find out Kaz was killed before the Shadow Moses shit even started bummed me out. I loved him in PW and he's been great up to where I've gotten so far in 5, so to just find out he got killed in his house is a bummer.

>>129295469
The fridge logic of Kaz not helping with MG1 but helping with MG2, with what Kaz says at one point in TPP in mind, is kind of brilliant.

>>129295466
>Seriously though, you have been playing the game for a long time. Don't you have anything better to do with your time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul8j9I90ueM

shit fxcked me up as a kid

>>129295412
Is it, though? It shows niggers being niggers and kikes being kikes. Trevor's first course of action after coming back into the story is stomping one to death.
>>129294764
They go over the story of how they met, remember? I would ASSUME it was real.

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>>129295838
The AI Rose does.
The only time we see the REAL Rose is at the end. They basically say that the whole time she was on the Codec was fake, but then she turns out to actually be pregnant anyway in MGS4, then again, Raiden didn't know that she had his kid anyway, so I guess she wasn't pregnant after all?

>>129295677
Are the original two Metal Gear (not metal gear solid) games worth a play through? I can play them in the menu of MGS3 but I don't really feel compelled too. I tried the first one today and I wasn't getting into it.

>>129295469
>>129295677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXKkeFUvgTM

>>129294835
Seems to be the general consensus here. Play it again, it's actually not hard to understand. I was amazed at how accurately it describes current events. Underwater part is incredibly easy too, I remembered it being harder.

>>129284256
I just wanted to duel mutant special forces agents and fight a giant metal T Rex. I appreciate what it was trying to convey, but it's definitely not the game I expected or even wanted to play. I probably would have gotten what i wanted had i just skipped the cut scenes and codec conversations, but i'm not like that.

>>129296017
The first Metal Gear game is a ton of fun once you realize it's a PC adventure style game (like those old King's Quest games).

MG2 is ok. I hate the swamp, also I thought that it ruined the gameplay style of the first game. MG2 is heavily referenced in MGS, although at the same time, I imagine that MGS started out as a remake of MG2, it's so similar.

best fucking game

>>129294764
>>129295469
MGS2 was meant to end the franchise. It was supposed to be an open ended mindfuck. Rose being real, then not being real, and then appearing as a real person in the end is part of it.

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>>129295148
This game is a /pol/ essential along with Deus Ex and MGS2.

Be honest, you turned the system off when the Colonel told you to.

>>129285185
The patriots were right.

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mfw I have a MGS2 promo poster and got it signed by Kojima

>>129285185

>if only we had patriots irl.

Please. I dont want to be controlled by jews.

>>129296321
I didn't really see Rose being real as a mind fuck, it made more sense to me that she was real than Raiden had just been duped or manipulated into believing he had a life outside of some cell where he played VR sims all day. He remembered his past as a child soldier, he remembered going through all those VR training sessions. He wasn't being tricked in terms of what he actually did, the problem was the reason he had been doing those things. He thought he was being ordered to save the US from a nuclear strike, but his entire mission was based on lies and misinformation.

What I don't get is why he went with Rose after everything he learned and even what she said to him up until that point.

>>129294851

I don't get it.

>>129284256
i just found my old copy and my old ps2. Yee fuckin haw

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>>129292112
TIME TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIND!

>>129292112
Armstrong is more Ted Cruz.
Also, Reagan invented this whole "MAGA" thing.

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>>129292264
I know, right?!

> I hear it's amazing when the >famous purple stuffed worm >in flap-jaw space with the >tuning fork does a raw blink >on Hara-Kiri Rock. I need >scissors! 61!
I geeked out sober when I first heard Campbell say this. Now I shitpost this quote a lot on Facebook.

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>>129293689
>and probrably slept with her
>her

>>129297708
Fucked up greentext. Going back to lurking...

>>129297499

He's too AnCap for Teddy.

>>129297708

I remember the first time I played the game I seriously thought I was meant to turn off the console when he says you've been playing for too long and need to take a break and then sat there in silence wondering when I can start playing again.

>>129298355
I didn't turn off the game but I did seriously get paranoid for a bit. How did he know?
This game definitely was the catalyst for me questioning everything though. I was 18, 9/11 happened and the shit was completely plausible. I loved MGS1 but MGS2 made me a fan.

>>129296414
Yup. It's a shame most /pol/acks were in diapers when this came out. I remember playing it when I was about13 and it got me interested in existentialism. Good entry point for Nietsczche. Which led me to the ultimate redpill of Dostoyevsky and Kierkegaard.

This game is still too far ahead of its time. The gameplay hasn't aged well but holy shit this is the closest vidya has come to art

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>>129289798
> The world is being engulfed in "truth".

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>>129290032
I wrote a college paper on memes back in like 2005 on Dawkins for an evolution class after playing MGS2. I also did a paper on MGS2 for an ethics and technology class. Funny enough, I lost it in a hd crash.

>>129292112

He literally got killed by someone who wears high heels.

>>129295930
>>129288151

I've played through this game a bunch of times, but I am always amazed by the new, tiny, minute details I find