You will never be rich

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>>129275983
Oh look an commie spic

>>129275983
Speak for yourself. I shitpost on Imax.

>>129276606
>>129276755
no arguments?
I thought so...

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But I will. My grandmother owns over 1 million dollars in Wal-Mart stock and several hundred acres of farmland in the Midwest. Why do you assume everyone is poor under capitalism? There is an upper part of the middle class you know.

>>129275983

Didn't that fucking commie get fucked up like a bitch? I think he died screaming for his mommy.

>>129277832
delete this

>>129275983
My great grandparents were crazy rich, so rich that a few generations later I can count on roughly a million dollars, maybe two, to retire on. It's nice having a retirement plan already in place. I just have to support myself and my family until my parents pass away.

>Inb4 a million dollars isn't that much
Yeah I know, but do you have a million dollars in your retirement account? No? Okay then.

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>>129275983
>Are you tired of not having money?
>Just get the government to take it from someone who earned it

>>129278108
>Inb4 a million dollars isn't that much
wouldn't that be just a small loan?

>>129277832
His death was very unpleasant and the whole chain of events that lead to it is a wonderful example of a trainwreck. One of my favorite stories.

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>>129275983
cause it's better than communism or socialism or any other economic -ism you can think of. in fact capitalism even now under the jewish bank's complete control is extremely comfy if you're even middle class. that's the devil's greatest trick. more food than you can eat, decent homes, decent entertainment.

as far as prison's go it's pretty comfy bro. you'd know, your people move here looking for it.

>>129278186
>defends his masters for crumbs

cuck

>>129278333
>wants an alternative where the masters have more power and less crumbs

>>129278518
hmm, not quite defending the comunist ideology but on that system YOU get to be the master.

>>129277600

I'm in the 80th percentile, also about in the same situation. Nice cattle operation out here.

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>>129275983
Because being a part in the middle class is better than being poor in a commie shithole. In fact, it's better than being in the party. The number of people that do well in a leftist hellhole is way lower than in a capitalist society.

Faggots like you are going to be the reason why many Western countries are going to get absolutely rekt in our lifetime. Your children will hate and despise your entire generation and you're going to end up in a fucking gulag. And when the madness ends, your country is going to struggle with corruption and post-commie bullshit for decades.

Your national pride will be tarnished, broken beyond repair. Because unlike us, you won't be able to blame a foreign power bringing you communism on the bayonets of its soldiers.

If you want to inflict all of that and more on yourself and your country, by all means, do your worst. If not, push back against the commies before its too late. If violence is what it takes, string them up on the fucking lamp posts. The alternative is much, much worse.

MARICO HIJO DE PUTA SODOMITA DEL CHE DE MIERDA DEJEN DE ADORAR A ESE ARGENTINO HIJONDENPUTA.

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>>129278629
>mexicans are THIS dumb

ahi ahi ahi ese. there's only 1 master under communism, and it sure as fuck isn't the average guy. it's the kim jun ung living on his nice palace away from the poor plebs

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>>129275983
No, however, if you make more than $30 000/ year, you are the 1% of the world. World communism would be a massive set back on our lavish life styles.

Get bent, poorfag.

>capitalist society
>produces a large number of wealthy people whom everyone works for
>"Why do you wanna work for some rich person, maaaaaaaaan?" *inhale bong smoke*

>Marxist society
>produces an elite cabal of ultra-wealthy people whom everyone works for
>"You'd better work or they'll kill you, maaaaaaaaan." *inhale jackboot's 5.56mm*

>working class in a capitalist country
>work is hard, but I have food, water, electricity, air conditioning, a smartphone, a television, internet and enough month to send my kids to school
>working class in a communist country
>starve

rly fires up the ol' ticker

...but I am rich

>>129275983
>You will never be rich

i made 40k on ETH alone since Feb, thank you /biz/

I don't want the capital I've acquired to be commonly owned. I think its pretty reasonable for people to want to keep the things they've acquired.

>>129275983
GTFO Shareblue
Enough of your kike propaganda

>>129278890
In communism there is no leader. there is only direct democracy.

>>129278902
more like:
>capitalist society
>produces a large number of wealthy people whom everyone works for

>you work for yourself with your fellow workers and get to have a say in how the local goverment and the firm you work at is run
>only hard working people are rich.

>>129275983
I'm not a capitalist in order to get rich. I'm capitalist so brown people don't take my money.

>>129277600
And you will get none of it because you are a disgraceful faggot. My nana blah blah, acres blah blah. Get out and earn something for yourself and stop being part of the problem

>>129279298
And in capitalism everybody is wealthy, well-educated, armed and responsible.

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>>129278902
>>produces an elite cabal of ultra-wealthy people whom everyone works for
that's exactly what we have in america though stupid.

>>129278108
Another faggot. All I have to do is get by until my fucking parents die? What the fuck is wrong with you Billy Madison? Do something for yourself.

>>129279466
Oh, so fantasy land

What's it like to believe in an ideology that's biologically incompatible with the human condition?

>>129279910
Whats it like to beleive that the system that has only been around for a couple hundred years is human nature?

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>>129275983
Because when a centralized government dolls out the tax benefits to an oppreseed populous that people are hurt and the men in power are corrupted by that power. Too much government regulations and over reach in a individual civilians life will always lead to revolution.

How come you don't just work harder and be happy with what God gave you (OP)

Because you're lazy and afraid of captialism at the same time rather than sorting your self out and perpetually procrastinate cleaning your room

>>129278629
Kek

It's kind of funny. For an ideology built around sharing, communism has surprisingly selfish roots. Just look at OP's post... The only reason he wants communism is because capitalism personally isn't working for him, never mind the billions of people that it does work for.

>>129280395
Communism and capitalism are both selfish. Thats the point. Communism is just in the selfish intrest of the working class instead of the bourgoise.

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>>129275983
He was fucking right

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>>129275983
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>>129280156
Economic systems arent human nature. However 'class' systems are

>>129280196
But in communism the goverment and the masses blend. Bueracrats become democratically ellected and democratically recallable workers and the state becomes a proletarian semi-state.

>>129280734
In that case their will still be classes in socialism its just that the proletariat is the ruling class.

>>129280553
It never works for the working class tho

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>>129275983
>listening to this moron

Ok anon.

>>129275983
Hahahaha! Chinese cultural revolution, can't revolt when everyone so hungry they are eating the neighbors kids. Venezuela, can't revolt when you kill the dissidents, then they take your money,so you starve
USSR Stalin, can't revolt in a gulag, cause your starving and overworked.
China now, 5000 full time "officers" watching everyone, don't listen you get your organs sold and the rest is fed to the dogs to fatten to eat to, cause they are starving.
But communism gives you the power right?
Sorry I will eat

>>129275983
Capitalism and communism share the same end game; the majority of wealth in the hands of a few... One is swift and the other gradual.

Every poor person that i know deserves to be poor

>>129275983

Because we believe in something bigger than ourselves - the free market.

>>129275983
i'm grateful that I'm still richer than 99% of the planet Earth, and happy that Bill Gates was born in a country where he could thrive to a global level because capitalism. you commie faggot

>>129280956
its in the working classes best intrest to own their own workplaces though.

>>129275983
fuck off phone poster

>>129278762
Based hussar

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>>129275983
I've become a better person and have provided betterment to others strictly because of capitalism. I am a land owner, I have stocks, I run my own business and make decent money because of capitalism. Before I had any of that, I had nothing. I was a child to a single mother who worked at a shitty hotel and was essentially homeless from 17 onwards. The reason I am not a millionaire is because I am not willing to risk more than I had in the past and I am living comfortably enough to provide for my wife and future children that I could have no possibly dreamed of supporting if it weren't for capitalism.

>>129281395
No, getting rid of you and people like you is in the best interest of the working class. You're literally their worst nightmare - and if they don't know that, they're fucked.

You - you're fucked anyway, cause you're a pitiful moron.

>>129280877
why do I always see you fuckers posting from 1st word capitalist countries instead of glorious communist ones ?

>>129281581
Why is having a say in how the firm you work at is run not in the working classes intrest? It would free many people from aleination and the feeling of loss of autonomy that comes from capitalism.

>>129281674
Because there are no communist countrys and their never have been. Communism requires world wide unorganized proletariat revoultion. Soviet union and china were simply state capitalists with red flags. Read Bordiga.

Because some of us can see 5 seconds into the future and past our individual needs and desires to recognize that capitalism is the best system we have so far.

I don't defend it, I'm just not going to do anything about it.

You harness capitalism, or capitalism harnesses you. The west's management of capitalism is being eroded by the globalist donor class who is carving every single commons on the planet to benefit them instead of those who built it.

The tax rates that once kept them responsible to the societies they utilize have been decimated, workers rights are slipping backwards, and inflation is robbing every consumer outside of the petrodollar bubble, while multinationals are robbing every nation.

I do recognize all of this, I see what is happening and where we're going, and I do understand that there's only one way to fix it.

And I'm just not prepared to do that. I was born a ward of the system, I did 18 years, and then I did another 8 years as punishment for my services within an alternate economy.

I've crawled out of so many holes, I don't want to jump back in.
After I went legit I abused my body and risked my safety for years on end working 14 hour days in the path up north, 4 months on, 2 off, in exchange for the means to ensure that my family has a fighting chance to weather the contractions of capitalism entering its terminal stage.
I'm not going to risk what I do have for my family.

If there was one person I could put a bullet in, maybe I'd make that trade. But ultimately, this is our fault, all of us. All consumers are complicit, all voters have been maneuvered against their self interests. I doubt that can be changed or even resisted anymore.

If there was a way to fight for the people who fight, I might have a different sentiment.

But fuck the eternal suckers that never stop getting conned by the marketing firms that politicians hire to write their cosmetic ideologies they use to obscure the wholesale plunder of the commons.

We deserve what we accept. I'm not going to bleed for anybody who would not return the favour, in any way.

>>129276606
Why would you still use this meme when that obviously isn't going to happen?

>>129281865
do you even have a job?

>>129279588
LOL

>>129281986
Yes. Now would you kindly present an argument.

>>129275983
>che guevara
>the man ratted out by the bolivian farmers he wanted to help because they wanted nothing to do with his revolution
>mexican intellecutals

Get your shit together paco.

>>129276891
You will never be rich, so you should kill people and burn shit until you're poorer? Truly the mind of the mexican intellectual is an amazing thing

>>129281865
A world wide "unorganized" uprising just isn't going to happen. It astounds me you're naive enough to think we are capable of such a thing.

>>129281733
I'm not going to argue this shit with you, cause you're a filthy ideologue and you wouldn't understand anything I say anyway. Communists are for punching, not for discussion.

I've seen very recent footage from my country depicting what happens when commies take over and the workers try to get some freedom. People getting gunned down in the streets, or beaten senseless by the police. Brother against brother. So many wasted years, so much healing still to be done. You, with your bullshit idealism wouldn't be able to even begin to understand how much damage your shitty ideology does to a nation. It makes me hate you from the bottom of my heart.

>>129282511
Its absoultely inevidable. Capitalism has inherent flaws that will cause its collapse and then the build up of class consiousness and finally an unorganized proletariat uprising.

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>>129275983
I will never be a millionaire in a capitalist country so I'll just fuck off to some dirt poor communist country and live in squalor. Makes total sense

>>129278244
>His death was very unpleasant and the whole chain of events that lead to it is a wonderful example of a trainwreck. One of my favorite stories.

Tell the story! Tell the story! Greentext it!

>>129282627
The soviets fucked up your country but I don't agree with them and I don't want to replicate their system so why use them as an argument against me? Not all communists are stalinists.

>>129275983
>t. Un pinche indio perro culero de chiapas
>tfw parents are from Mexicali & Jalisco
>tfw we have 41 acres of property in Kentucky
Mata te wey

Define 'rich'

>>129275983

Because, when not riddled with socialist corruption, capitalism provides the best quality of life and freedoms of any economic system

>>129282951
kentucky is shit tier anyways, Popeyes is way better.

>>129283206
How can corruption occur in a system without leaders like a communist direct democracy.

>>129278244
>>129282861
YES PLEASE

>>129282925
Stalinism ended in the fifties and the commies still ended up doing this shit to our people. I don't really care what you want, if you had a chance you'd replicate it anyway. You're not that special - and even if you were, some other dumbass commie would just get rid of you and push the party in this direction.

>>129275983
You will never be a member of the inner party, so why do you endorse communism?

>>129275983
Communism sucks lol Capitalism is mostly great, next question

>>129283408
>>129283478
I don't want a party or a powerful state. I acknowledge the terrible mistakes of the soviet union and thus I want a different system that avoids all powerful undemocratic goverments.

Why?

One simple word:

Freedom.

We are free to speak, think, do whatever and whenever we want.

Some people choose to make money.

Some choose to create art.

Some choose to weld.

Et cetera, et cetera.

Freedom. With that comes a string middle class. It also comes with poor. And rich.

Capitalism is another word for freedom.

No other system offers that to each citizen.

>>129283209
>fugggggggg, nice comeback!
Come home brown man, vamos a estar pistiando un 36 y matar venados con mis AR15s wey!

>>129283285
>I'f there's no leaders there can't be corruption
>I'f there's no food you can't be fat
>I'f you're not alive you can't feel pain
Communist problemsolving everyone

>>129275983
We're national socialists at heart, but we'll use whatever system or tactic to our advantage. The red pill for example.

>>129275983
You will never be a commisar.

/pol/ doesn't always if rarely support "capitalism"

Have you not seen the thre... ah wait you are just a shill.

You are the kind of idiot that supports people like Bill Gates and his trickle down + philanthropy approach.

You support the conseqeunces of that in places like Africa.

Why don't you go sort out Mexico before getting ideological and trying to force "the alternative" on others?

>>129275983
He's right and wrong at the same time. We're in the heart of the beast, but the beast isn't capitalism.

It's globalist kike ideology.

>i'm not rich therefore i'm oppressed

Nice false dichotomy. I used to be poor as shit, so much so that I used to shitpost on 4chan from a broken laptop connected to a CRT monitor. Now I make 250k, which I reached through sheer hard work alone. This type of class mobility is only possible under capitalism.

>>129275983
What did you write this comment on OP?

>>129278682
89th here.

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>>129283892
this, the quote isn't bad

>>129281977
El chapo act. In a way, Mexico will pay for it.

>>129283285
Oh, and by the way, do you know what gives you away as one a jackbooted commie thug wannabe? It's the fact that you're pushing for a national revolution.

If you really were this silly hippie dreaming of living in a commune, you'd just create a small commune in your country and live by its rules. Somehow you're not doing that, you're pushing for a revolution that'd involve literally everyone instead. You want to create your shitty utopia by force.

Fortunately, the American working class will probably have none of it, so you're going to get a nasty reality check. I'm going to grin watching your friends getting fucked up in the streets on TV.

>>129275983
i will be though because i work hard and have a good degree you fag, already have a large amount in investments, and saving for my first property to rent to people like you. Well not like you, more white and less of a communist piece of shit

>>129283953
This. Hard work pays off.
When you lose in a game you should learn to play instead of crying about the rules.

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>>129275983
>You're not a rich shareholder or landlord.

We get it. You still work at Subway to pay for your video game and weed addictions. The rest of us grow up, buy property, and invest in the market. You're just ass-blasted because you're too lazy to do the same, kiddo.

>>129279570
inheriting property and money from you're own family = Being part of the problem???

Sounds like you're just a jealous faggot that hates people who have things you don't.

Sound like you're the real greedy pig.
Do some self analyzes for once in your life hypocrite.

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>>129275983
ikr
We should fight side by side and not against each other.
Workers of the world unite and shiet.

>>129284108
I push for international unorganized revoultion. Only the people themselves not some communist party can bring about the revoultion So until the day when capitalism falls on its own accord I will basically do nothing. Its going to happen one day I just have to wait.

>>129275983
Fuck communism and also fuck you motherfucker

>>129284638
Well, at the very least you're just naive, not dumb and dangerous. It's never going to happen that way, but hey - you're free to wait as long as you like.

>>129284495
weil Hitlers Sozialismus ja so gerecht und nachhaltig war, kek

>>129275983
>you will never be rich
see mate that is where youre wrong :>

>>129284495
Nice fake quote. Strasser said who was lager murdered by Hitler for not licking the corporate boot. National "Socialism" was nothing but authoritarian, corporate capitalism.

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>>129275983
fuck that jew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhkRQUtD_Jo

>>129275983
I am crazy rich compared to 90% of the world.

>>129275983
>You are not a rich shareholder or a landlord.

Except I am Jose.

>>129275983
>Why do you defend capitalism /pol/?
>You are not a rich shareholder or a landlord.


because I believe that I am getting my share of money for the work I do. Because I do. Because I'm not delusional and think that a lack of skills is worth a decent liveable wage.

I recognize that its important for me to provide enough to cover for what I take from society.

The only people who dont like capitalism are parasitic losers. This has ALWAYS been the case in my personal experience. They generally spend way more free time condescending to others than they do improving their skillset.

and then they go on and try to make a point to people that capitalism isnt fair, but the people who aren't selfish fucks and who decided they wanted to contribute something to society have already worked and gathered a skillset worth having. And so they just don't give a fuck about that loser's opinion.


the idea that in capitalism everyone thinks they are temporarily embarrassed millionaires couldnt be more delusional.

In capitalism, delusional people think they are temporarily embarrassed millionaires. the rest of people know that being a millionaire is something you work toward.


I was homeless in 2013.
I currently make $49k, which is great for teh state of ohio (im in mid 20s).

I will be making in the 70k range this year.

no, i dont have one of your silly "degrees", they are mostly a mental trap for sheep who think going along with the herd is a good idea.

>>129275983
kys commie

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>>129275983
Probably because I come from a rich family and I enjoy our wealth

Capitalism offers the best opportunity for you to succeed, if you have half a brain. There are no real limitations except those you impose upon yourself.

Pretty simple to succeed. Apply yourself in Highschool and college. Major in a field that is actually worth something, like healthcare or engineering. Come out making $60k+.

Save and invest wisely, work your way up in your field, maybe marry another successful person and you are pulling in $120-200k yr combined. I know I am living quite comfortable under this scenario.

If college isn't your thing, learn a trade like welding, plumbing, electrical or get a CDL. All of these have potential to earn $60k-$100k as well.

Like I said, if you have half a brain and willing to actually put some work in Capitalism is the way to go.

Too many lazy shits like OP want something for nothing, don't know crap about history and how it has not favored well for communist nations.

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>>129275983
Che was a commie scumfuck who is getting ass blasted by satan as we speak

>>129288993
>Major in a field that is actually worth something, like healthcare or engineering

either this or skip college entirely and learn some skilled labor

I inherited my family's wealth. Get fucked commies

>>129275983
>You are not a rich shareholder or a landlord
I'm working on it, still fixing up the apartment complex I just bought with the money I made in the stock market.
>You truly aren't the next Warren Buffet or Bill Gates
Who would want to be those old croaks? Both have to hide sterilizing/killing the population of Africa while advocating for the silent genocide of whites.
>Why would you defend a system that oppresses you?
Because capitalism is an economic system, it isn't a government. Only governments can be oppressive.

>Be Mexican
>Can't into communism
>Go to Capitalistic America to make money to send back to Communistic Mexico
>Vote for Communistic leaders in America to turn America into a Communist state
>America turns into Mexico 2.0

Stay where you are Paco and pay to receive your cousins and the wall.

>>129275983
Because your alternative involves me starving.
I'm perfectly OK with some people having more than me so long as I get to keep mine.

You're perfectly free to surrender your property for a boot up your ass any time you like, just take a trip almost anywhere south of your border.

>>129275983
isnt communism a satanic jew cult? fuck you dumb nigger and get jewed

I'm decently well off. Atleast can fantasize about one day making Canada conceivably less cucked , and am able to live and accumulate wealth I can pass onto kids and enjoy in off time . I never played this game to have everything. Everything I earn from my own virtue means the world to me and I thus far am rapidly gaining a better life

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>>129275983
my parents came from a communist shithole country, and in one generation my dad was able to start as a manual laborer and paid for my entire college education in cash. I graduated with a good STEM degree and make a shit load of money. Kill yourself communist faggot. I would literally die for this country and defend it from people like you

More rich than you'll ever be tacotime. And I think most of us would rather live under a capitalist domestic republic because it actually fucking WORKS, unlike communist Mexicans such as yourself. Everyone here is free and has the opportunity to strive and succeed big league if they have the motivation and stamina.

>>129278890
Doesn't have to be.

>>129278956
Oh yeah because the West totally is the only capitalist place on Earth.

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how much

>>129280734
Class systems are economic.

>>129283206
>corruption is socialist
The most corrupt leaders in modern history were anti communist dictators.

>>129283408
>I hate you because even if you're not evil an evil person will kill you and replace you

>>129283631
Idealistic platitudes. Choices affect other people too.

>>129291236
>Latin America is communist

>you will never be white..kys.

>>129275983

Speak for yourself commiefag.

I was born into abject poverty- my dad had a working class job, stay at home mom, in a high tax, high cost of living town in a high tax, high cost of living state.

Now I'm in the upper middle class and I'm not even 30. I don't even have a boss- don't need one, I produce my own materials, I am my own master.

I bet that makes you feel slightly jealous- I do as I wish and get paid the good shit for doing so, you're just a little loser, who wishes some central system would help you steal a few shekels from someone like me, but all I'd give you is a good whack on the back of the skull with a ball bat.

Let that suffice.

>>129290538

Yes I listed that option as well. IT certs as too. I know a 21yo that joined AF reserve, got all his certs paid for and a yr of paid OJT, then landed a civilian IT position making $60k yr. Not bad for 1yr of free paid training, especially in his locale with low cost of living.

>>129275983
For a one world government, yes, communism would be the preferable system. But there would have to be no supreme leader or dictator either.

>>129275983
Ask your family before they move here dipshit I'm sure they'll tell you why.

>>129275983
His commie buddy Castro sold him out to CIA niggers.
Che is one of the better examples why Marxism is shit, because the bottomless pit of envy that it stirs up creates treachery in men's souls that can only be satisfied with cold and calculated murder.