UPCOMING ECONOMIC COLLAPSE

hum, so everything is still as it has been for the last decade?

Welp, we had a decade to prepare for what might have happened.

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>>129274912
pic related.

>>129274912

People have been endlessly predicting economic collapse, but it hasn't happened. Nobody is accurate when it comes to this.

>>129274912

actually they are grossly undervaluing the total size of the derivatives bubble.

worldwide humanity basically has a 2 quadrillion dollar liability on its hands.

an interesting note: if you simply googled "size of the derivatives bubble" this 2 quadrillion (2,000,000,000,000,000) dollar figure would pop right up. now it shows much lower figures, probably as a measure to prevent justifiable public panic.

Bump for interest

>>129274912
Jesus christ. This combined with the raising levels of defaulters on credit card debt is a bad fucking sign, if the credit bubble burst and the derivative market crashes again it would possibly completely destroy the whole world economy, worse than it did before. And remember that on average every 1% Unemployment goes up 40000 people die.


If you're unaware of what this means I strongly recommend you watch the move The Big Short (currently on Netflix.)

Goddamn the fucking banks.

>>129276668
If they turn up the interest very much, it all comes tumbling down.

>>129274912
we're not giving you more view for your channel faggot
no one knows when the crash will come
it's just always +/- 5 years away

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>>129275374

>>129274912
see you in september

>>129277360
I fell asleep at the very end, but that was a pretty good movie, especially for such a mainstream movie made this far after it all happened.

Here, have a classic. Predates the housing bubble, but it's a good complement to The Big Short in terms of covering the historical perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0

>>129274912
Still using fiat money kek

it's 2017 grandpa

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Will my Walmart job survive? I literally have nothing else in life to support me...

>>129275374
I wonder how somebody still can be surprised that a system based on exponential growth has to break at some point.

should i just buy up food and water before shit hits the fan?

>>129274912
>its a /pol/ predicts thread

>>129277671
I've seen FtF but thanks for reminding of it, means I can watch it again.

>>129275374
holy fuk

>>129274912
>Woow, a hick is telling me that world banking system is about to crash
Why do you guys keep making stupid threads?

>>129277900
End point water filtration is just plain sensible, whether you're using roof runoff, some dick pipes in dirty river water, or you're hiking and you don't want to get the shits. Cheap and easy.

Putting away 6-12mo food isn't expensive. Freeze dried and dehydrated would be the best option. But it's not going to hurt you and after 20-30 years when it comes near the end of its shelf life then either eat it or give it to the hungry.

Two very obvious things with basically no downside. Guns an ammo, too, would be near the top of the list.

>>129274912
>>129274912
many people always say that there is a economic collapse next year and never happen.

>>129277986
Can I offer you a BBC documentary about LTCM instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FwIXJYu8ms

These sorts of things happen frequently, although for us we have yet to really get whacked like some other countries.

>>129274912

Late to the game I see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e5HDVvBjvk

>>129278175
how much does this all cost roughly food/water wise?

>>129277851
probably get laid off.

save money my good goyim.

>>129277867
Pretty fucking dumb, ay wot?

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>>129278280
It is happening.
It happens everyday.
Life gets shittier. Basic things become more expensive. Jobs sucks ever more. People have less and less free time. Products decline in quality.
You think collapse will come one day like it suddenly starts snowing?
You are dying from the frost.

>not going long beans, guns, boating accidents, and crpyto

Shiggy

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>>129278618
>Walmart wages
>saving fiat currency
I'm confused.

>>129275374
Shemita

>>129278911
You must have all the beans.

>>129278593
I bought a Berkey Light a while back for water (and yes I have actually used it with water not fit to drink) and I think it was something on the order of $100, or maybe less. It came with a couple of little water bottle freebees that are just brilliant for if you're camping or backpacking or whatever.

6mo of frieze-dried food for me was close to $700 back when I got it. Prior to that, when I was strapped for cash, I just kept more canned food around, and you can also do things like a sack of rice that will last a really long time.

As with everything, try using it beforehand. If shit goes sideways and you actually need to use anything you thought you might should get, that's not the time you want to find out you don't know how to use it or it doesn't work or you don't like it or whatever.

>>129274912
finally, i am ready

the fools and parasites will be left to die

As >>129275254 said, we had a decade to prepare, if you haven't by now you deserve everything that is coming to you

>>129278927
find a way or you're fucked.

Ah yes the economy. I hope we all realise that the economy doesn't really exist and it is simply an idea that's gotten pretty big. The idea has become so ingrained that we believe it to be an actual, real thing, to the point where we will suffer recessions and poverty to maintain the illusion it's real.

We could erase all debt if we wanted to. Start fresh. If you could vote to erase all debt, would you vote?

Are ideas controlling us or are we controlling the ideas, maaaaaaaannnnnn?

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>>129274912

>"Quick everyone! Lets stock up on the four horseman and Lucifer (EVERYTHING TERRESTRIAL) incarnate to stop god's final judgement of this world!!!!!!"

>>129279501
t. prepper planning to predate on everyone else

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>>129278878
underrated

>>129278618
>>129278927

Do not save money, save resources. Things you can use to survive if you cannot go to the store and buy things.

I suggest you get a small parcel of land and learn to grow food. As little as 1 acre is enough to sustain a family. Start learning and growing right now. Get a seed stockpile going you will need a lot and they are very cheap if you know where to look.

Potatoes are easy to grow almost anywhere, they will store over the winter and remain edible plus you can replant the leftovers.

Get chickens or ducks and rotate their location every 3 months to replenish nitrates in the soil.
Get rabbits, they can eat some of your scrap the rest you should compost. Pigs are another option and are excellent at disposing of the bodies of intruders.

You will of course deal with people trying to kill you for your food stockpile but that is why you bought guns and a defensible piece of land, right?

Don't forget water either, get a well, rainwater collection system, or a stream/river/lake. Make sure it is free of contaminants.

Growing food is piss easy, retarded peasants did it for thousands of years.

>>129277867
That's not exponential growth, but 5 collapses from now will be better off at the peak we have now.

>>129281010
Piss easy is an overstatement. If you've never tried it before at any significant scale you're in for a learning curve. Trying to survive off of it on your own is not something a person should expect to be able to do at the drop of a hat.

But your suggestions are good ones anyway. Every little bit might help, and if it's a real deal collapse then probably most people who don't already survive on their own would die. Making it easier to ride out is probably the most practical expectation to hope for.

Just think about if your average person had $1k cash at home instead of wondering how to get pay the bills and roll the debt each month. I got stuck in line at the grocery store today for like 30 minutes behind some dumb nigger trying to figure out what she could load on her EBT card and one of the employees just plain out loud says
>oh jesus christ
under her breath when she has to take half a cart of food and put it back on the shelf because that was how badly this nigress had estimated what she could fit on her card and she gave zero shits at all.

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>>129275565
That's because they expect it to be some singular event like when the barbarians sacked Rome. It will probably be marked by a major or a few major events, but it is a process that we have been going through for 15+ years. Economic collapses don't happen overnight. Western Rome was going through an economic collapse long before the barbarians invaded. Had they not been, the barbarians probably would have been repelled. This will be faster than the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, but that still can mean decades. But that means that it could be tomorrow, or by 2030.

>>129282406
Volker knocked up the interest rate to 7% (was it?) and Argentina wound up having to pull a 3:1 devaluation basically overnight.

That wasn't Mad Max, but it was pretty substantial. Good lesson imo.

>>129274912
THIS MEME IS WALLSTREET TRYING TO MAKE THE CRASH HAPPEN. NO CRASH. TRUMP TRAIN CAN ONLY MAGA

>>129277851
Walmart is built from the ground up to thrive in times of economic hardship. This is because it is designed to bring affordable goods to impoverished rural areas with minimal costs to consumers and their bottom line. If things get tough they'll just have another purge of their superfluous "sales strategy innovator" type positions. They may trim their ground level employees some in favor of automation, but they seem to have a policy of keeping bodies in stores to an extent despite fully automating the entire store. Coincidentally, I seem to recall a very recent wave of layoffs and vaguely recall hearing about cutting down unnecessary spending late last year.

t. Fag who loves near HQ and has family in the upper echelon.

>>129281010
>Growing food is piss easy, retarded peasants did it for thousands of years.

Growing a varied, well rounded diet without synthetic inputs without depleting the soil, OTOH, takes a bit more going on up in the noggin. The piss poor peasants often had a few staples and poorer health than their hunter-gatherer ancestors, or they depleted the soil, or both. Don't forget that civilizations like Mesopotamia collapsed, in large part, due to abusing their soil.

I just want to say that /pol/ has been predicting an economic collapse every year since /new/ existed.

Preppers are gay cunts.

There will be martial law and food stamps and rationing. They're not going to allow people to murder each other over cans of tomatoes. Who in the actual fuck would want to go out like that except maybe niggers?

>>129282598
IIRC, it was closer to 17%, but the USD was on the path to potential collapse back then. But that was in response to Carter's incompetence of dealing with the Nixon Shock, which was in response to LBJ's spending assloads on Vietnam and The Great Society.

>>129281974
You are right, I did suggest people start learning right now though.

I am of the opinion that anyone who can't figure it out by reading a basic book on agriculture and some trial and error would probably be better off dying anyway, such as the stupid nigger in your example. Our decadent way of life has polluted our gene pool with fools who would never have survived in the distant past.

A happening is the best thing humanity can hope for at this point.

>>129283039
You are also right, I thought to put more about this in the post but didn't for the sake of brevity. In a much more long term happening this would of course come into play to a greater extent than it would if it only took a decade to recover

>>129283488
Christ, it was 17%? Fuck, can you imagine what that would do these days? So obviously they're not going to pull that again, but it just goes to show how easy it would be to capsize when we're already stuck up shit creek.

>>129283498
As somebody who up and decided to try growing stuff in recent years, I agree with you entirely. It can be surprisingly easy to get more out of it than you might have thought.

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>>129275374
>muh scary jagged lines
>muh phase transitions
>muh unlabeled vertical axis

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>>129277851

>tfw posting in a breakroom thread

>>129283815
I'm fairly confident that, if SHTF, I could make my way off to some very out of the way location, and if I could last the 1st year, after 3-5 years, I would have a very productive farm/ranch, and that's starting with poor soil. But I live in a hostile environment for a lot of plants.

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>be depressed
>lurk /pol/ for a year
>become a little inspired to better myself and clean my room
>getting ready to move out and get my life back
>LOL GREAT DEPRESSION TIME

god damn it. My $60k savings in the bank are going to be worthless right? Hell the bank probably wouldn't even give it to me if the economy gets that bad. What do I do lads?

>>129278927
JUST

>>129277851
get off ur phone slave

>>129285276
Why aren't you in BTC or Silver 1oz coins? WTF have you been doing?

>>129285276
What do you have for an interest rate? I can't imagine keeping $60k in the bank since our inflation rate outpaces the interest rate by several percent.

Start thinking where better to stash your cash. That could be an investment in tools or location or education or whatever for your future. A friend of mine a few years back decided to go can his career and go get a fancy degree. I was skeptical at the time if that was a good idea, but he's good at what he does, he likes it, and I think it will have been a much better decision than I had thought at the outset.

He recently got a somewhat nice car to lease and now he's doing an internship in a different state that he likes better and he's thinking of buying funs.

>>129284382

This.

>>129285670
I don't know how or what to invest money into. I'm a dumbarse.

>>129274912
House price crash on the way in London.

>>129274912
kill yourself shill rat

>>129286229
OP screen capped the money slide so you don't even have to click the video, you absolute retard

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>>129274912
I used to watch this dude's channel. he's made some false predictions before and talks about a lot of /x/ tier conspiracy nonsense. I wouldn't take it seriously.

>>129275892
At this point it's all meaningless.

>>129274912
Bring it on quickly

>>129275501

>>129278927
>not taking your pay in canned goods, guns, bullets, and potable water
why?

>>129284518
We are of like mind friend.

Take great care to ensure you will survive that first year. Depending on the season when the happening occurs you may not have any viable crops that will be ready in a short amount of time. You will need to have a stockpile of food to survive until harvest, or become very well versed in wild edibles and trapping in your area. The latter is much more difficult than it sounds and requires a large area to sustain a person.

>>129277851
Do Wal-Mart breakrooms still have that separate "smoking room" that gets all dingy and yellow?

>>129274912

All US banques are totally insolvent. Account reclassification software is used dynamically to skirt hard capital reserve rules. 80-90% of cheque deposits are designated at the sub-surface level as savings.

>>129274912
Oh sweetie, I remember when I was too a naive happeningfag.

>>129277676
Why what do you do..buy loavs or bread with gold bars and bitcoin?
>I'm prepared to eat human flesh and steal your gold and guns cunt.

>>129275501

>>129286679
Stories I've read about semi-recent happenings we might want to learn from often include tidbits like pets going missing (or in the case of e.g. guard dogs being poisoned before plunder) and trees or other combustibles getting used up.

I recall even in a story from the Irish Potato Famine, there was reference made to removing an interior wall of the house to burn. That was a slight comedy bit, but obviously informed by the kind of thing that happens when people have to keep warm.

I have a -20C rated fancypants backpacking sleeping sack that seems to work pretty good as far as I've used it. Seems like a pretty good kind of thing to have if you live where heat might be a concern. I'm looking for a chance to try this little mylar thing that folds into like the size of a wallet.

>>129277664

This gypsy actually gets it.

>>129274912
not happening, the market will go up under Trump and never go down

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Literally nothing is going to happen.

>>129274912
The global collapse happened in 2008...the world eCONomy never recovered..it's just been money printing and lies since. That's why (((they))) have retreatedly pushed for war with Russia..blatantly pushed for it..in Ukraine and Syria and then with the "Russian hackers"...
>war is THE only way to restet the Ponzi (((economy))) that's how it's been since the kikes took control of our money

WW1 WW2 it's always Jews. We always lose and (((they))) always reap the rewards by financing the arms industry and then taking the losers assets as payment I.E. their county.

>>129275501

>>129274912
This guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. And if you think he does, you're a fucking idiot. He doesn't even understand the fucking difference between pensions and retirement funds.

>>129286088
get 25% of all long term savings into silver 1oz coins. http://www.apmex.com/product/102462/2017-great-britain-1-oz-silver-britannia-bu great design, otherwise look at the 2oz Queen's beast set. Edward coin is fashy as fuck. Silver is a hedge against total meltdown, but will perform decently in a market reset.

Get another 25% in a widely traded crypto currency. Learn how to use the shit. It will be better than gold or silver in the event of a soft collapse.

have 25% in cash and secured safely, so not all of your living expense funds can be seized or frozen by the bank in case of job loss + bank run.

buy gun, then hold remainder like everything is normal and carry on with life.

>>129287392
Never underestimate their ability to kick the can down the road. The big one is coming for sure, but we don't know if it's coming in 2, 5, or 10 years. If you bought gold and silver in 2008-2010, you missed out on a huge rally in stocks and real estate (DOW went from 6,000 in 2009 to 21,000 today - you could have tripled your money just buying an index fund and fucking off for 10 years)

Something big is definitely coming. Demographics are fucked, Latinos won't into white collar jobs at the same rate as whites, Amazon is going to kill commercial real estate and retail, millenial hatred of suburbs (not to mention student loans) is going to kill residential real estate, government debt keeps growing all the time, too many thing are coming together

>>129287605
Don't tell him to buy fancy silver. All he needs is recognizable government-minted 1oz silver coins, and not Chinese ones. IIRC the Perth Mint puts out like kowalas or kangaroos or something.

But at $60k he might as well toss a part of that in to British Gold Sovereigns, perhaps the most recognized gold coin in the world, an it's even fractional at roughly 1/5 try oz per coin. Can't go wrong.

As for cash, as an individual, 3mo notes living expenses at home. 3mo in the bank.

>>129274912
Is this Dave Ramsay?

He is no hick. He is a pretty legit financial analyst/money saving guy.

>>129274912
1. Speculation. Also retirement accounts != public pensions
2. There are stricter rules on the amount of leverage these banks can take, capital holdings size is important but not what caused an issue in 2008.
3. Doesn't account for inflation. Derivatives aren't dangerous as long as leverage isn't ridiculous to hedge against risk. Also to call it a "bubble" off hand is retarded.
4. The fed has started to shrink it's balance sheet, that's whats important, not to lower it's rates. It needs to be able to buy up bonds and increase it's balance sheet in times of QE. Anyways, you can have negative interest rates (like Japan has done) to push people to spend their money.

This is legit some zero hedge level retard shit.

>>129286088
Guns. Tinned beans.

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>>129274912
It always happens doesn't it

>>129274912
>BPearthwatch
You realize he's a shill right? The dude has been wrong about so many fucking events. Its ridiculous.

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>>129287936
How is the 1oz Britannia a weird fancy coin chinese coin? Who wouldn't want this british coin from the Queen's beasts set.

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>>129280175
>edgy post on a mongolian astrophysics board without a voting system is underrated

>>129285670

Why would you tell someone to take their hard earned money and drop it in BTC after the move its made? It like saying invest in housing in the 2006.

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HUR DUR AISDJOAIHSEIUAH IT'S FUCKING HAPPENEDINGINWE OMG I'M A FUCKING RETARD

NOTHING IS HAPPENING YOU DUMB SHIT NOTHING WILL EVER HAPPEN THERE WILL BE NO ECONOMIC COLLAPSE, THE ONLY THING THAT WILL COLLAPSE IS YOUR ASSHOLE GETTING FUCKED BY 10 MILLION DICKS YOU CUNT

>>129288579
2k+ is the new normal. Get over it.

>>129288472
Because it's meant to appeal to people who place value on the coin over the metal content. There's nothing wrong with some fun coins. I have a few bits and pieces that are just neat to have.

But if you're wondering what to do with a substantial savings, then it's irrelevant. You want the most metal for the least jewbux, and you want it to be easily liquidated. After a decent position of that is built you can start to move in to more real deal categories rarity.

>>129287098
There is no shortage of timber where I live! But that is a good lesson, an option for those without trees to burn could be some sort of solar stove.

The mylar blankets are great, but you will wake up soaked in sweat, cold be an issue in the cold. Don't wear cotton!

>>129288765
>soaked in sweat
That's what I was afraid of. Always want to try it out first. I was thinking it might just be something to put in the glovebox to use as a shock blanket in an emergency or something like that.

>no cotton
wool? I hear about wool but in my climate so far cotton and spandex have been pretty tits for day to day life.

how would one even go about investing in gold or silver?
is there a website for information?

>>129274912
Just had dinner with my extremely wealthy uncle. He's pretty convinced of this. Though I will tell you that if the government starts seizing the funds of private accounts, you're going to have a civil war. There is no way you take peoples retirement savings and they don't start killing federal employees.

>>129288764
If asteroid mining becomes a thing and silver goes to zero, you are gonna want silver trinkets of the by-gone era that at least looks good.

If you just want cheap pure silver rounds, https://www.store.firstmajestic.com/product/view/105 but they are boring and ugly as fuck.

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>>129282943
Thanks for the info. I've been here over 11 years. I've seen cost cutting like never before after the 2008 shit. I do miss the overtime as i have to work for free at times to get my work done.
>>129286698
We used to have one. Shit was horrible to be in.

>>129289089
Maybe, but probably if you're a noob you wouldn't want to just trust a website anyway. Back when I was trying to figure things out the kitco forums were a remarkably interesting and diverse source of political debate, but rarely does something last for 10 years that way.

What are you looking to do in terms of investments? I will try to give you the best advice I can.

>>129289135
You'd be surprised at how much gov-dick the boomers will take. Literally nothing will happen.

>>129289213
wew, do you work in nigeria?

>>129289015
Cotton is fine for everyday wear but in the cold wet cotton will leach all your warmth in no time. I like wool personally, some prefer synthetics.

>>129289161
If we make it to asteroid mining in a way that affects the average person then my entire portfolio will probably be in question. Might as well think about jewelry and heirlooms and stuff at that point.

Short of imaginary futures, anybody who thinks about buying silver to ride out a happening should be thinking more about having to hawk it at the local pawn shop or whatever. You want something you'll be able to liquidate even if it costs a few more pennies when the getting is good.

Shiny fancy things will only be valuable if your middle man thinks he can turn around and sell it at a premium.

>>129289213
>I've worked at walmart for 11 years
fucking do something different with your life you absolute idiot. you could have learned any number of skills by now and be earning at least 70k

>>129289283
>What are you looking to do in terms of investments?
I have no clue to be honest.. I just saw the thread talking about silver and gold.
I have some money just sitting in the Bank, been thinking about doing something with it but I know nothing about investing.

Would buying silver be a good option for a noob?

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>You don't need a gold standa-

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>millennials are just lazy and don't work enough to get a h-

>>129289618
Gold and silver are vehicles for extra money you don't know what else to do with. You should think of it as if you're dumping money into a retirement account, then why not set part of that aside to diversify.

If you're looking to just put 5% or 15% into diversification, then I'll give you my babby's first can't-go-wrong advice. But if you're not looking to pack savings away for the future, then your better investments are going to be in things like what you would need to live off of if you lost your job or if the banks shut down or if you need a house or a car or you want to get out of debt etc.

>>129287936
reminder that the Chinese are flooding the market with fake, counterfeit coins.
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/silver-dollar-weights-and-chinese-fakes.131002/
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/glitters-not-gold-fake-gold-silver-coins-flooding-market-n591201

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>these interest rates are sustainab-

>>129278878
the absolute truth

>>129289892
And that's why we're going with major government-minted coins and not the kind of stuff where the counterfeiting system is eroding confidence. This is a very important component of understanding the psychological side of the PM game.

>>129277851
save as many shekels as possible, lad, and figure out a way to spend less money (there's go to be).

Also
> will walmart jobs survive the faggotry that is yet to come, dudes?
maybe

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>>129289901
We need Paul Volcker

>>129289515
So I actually like cotton particularly because it dries quick even in the dead of winter as long as I'm cranking out body heat.

Would you care to recommend one or two wool bits of clothing to try, brand names or whatever?

the early 1900s-1950s were the height of human civilization, we have only regressed since

only in this post-modernist society could people think 3rd worlders living in mud huts are the same as the people who are landing on the moon

everyone had these ideas for the past 100 years that in the year 2000 and beyond we would be living in a utopia in flying cars. the opposite has happened, we have actually worsened ourselves through multiculturalism, usury, and political correctness. the multiculturalism comes into play here when people cannot point out the obvious - that this Ponzi scheme system we have is inherently Jewish.

>>129289883
I am such a noob at this, I have no idea what you just said lol
is diversification like a mutual fund?
I need to find a investing for dummies type site to start getting into this stuff.

>>129290378
Bulwark gear is good in the cold

>>129290378
>dries quick even in the dead of winter
This isn't even close to being true. Polyester does that.

Wool stays wet forever but will keep you warm even if it's damp.

>>129287605
Is there a book you would recommend on this sort of thing?

>>129274912
Believe it or not, the banks did learn something from the 08 crisis. Some things to keep in mind:

>before 08: hire legions of quants to price the weirdest fucking derivatives possible and come up with even weirder ones
>after 08: hire legions of quants to make sure their net derivatives position is as insensitive as possible to movements in the price of the underlying assets

Most of the exotic derivatives pricing desks were shut down, because nobody wanted to buy them. There's still skeleton crews watching over the exotics that didn't explode, but it's totally dead compared to before the crisis. And as already mentioned, most of this exposure cancels out.

>>129290474
It is true. I use Gildan model 5000 cotton T-shirts year round, and wet them down before going outside down to about 20F to keep from sweating, and below that they're good at keeping sweat from being a problem. At about -10 to -15F I have to start thinking about a better barrier, but at that point it's not like sweat or rain is going to be an issue.

>>129290704
You're objectively wrong, read what basically anyone with knowledge has to say about the subject. Google the phrase "cotton kills" to see what I'm talking about.

>>129274912

Exactly right. At the late stage, war becomes just another tool for policy makers

I'm better a nuclear war in the middle east and east Asia, followed by a generational cold war.

Probably good for oil prices

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>>129289213

>11 YEARS

>>129290776
I don't doubt it. I'm just saying that I've been doing exactly this for my daily life for years and it works for my daily life.

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>>129274912
I'm due to collect inheritance and have estate settle sometime this summer. Everything is in stocks. Cutting it so fucking close. My luck it crashes right before my life changes haha.

>>129290378
I really like my icebreaker thermal underwear for when I am skiing or snowshoeing. Throw in some nice wool socks and glove liners and you will never be cold again. Rothco wool watch caps are super cheap and nice and toasty.

If you want some cheap clothing to throw in your bug out kit you can't go wrong with military surplus tons of cheap swiss or whatever heavy duty coats and pants out there as well as US made stuff

>>129290441
You know, maybe there are better materials around these days but I don't have a simple guide for dummies to recommend.

I would say start by keeping a few thou in cash at home, keeping a few thou in two different bank accounts, and having a couple of credit cards so you can ideally get a few thou each if you need it in case of emergency.

Beyond that the first priorities would be to build up whatever you need to live on easymode if you lost your job or whatever. Beyond that we're talking real investment advice, and that's a little more intricate. If you dump a bunch of it in a mutual fund or two, maybe that's not the best but you're probably still doing a hell of a lot better than people wondering how to cover the bills at the end of the month.

>>129291650
Thanks mate. I recognize some of those names. I'm due for a ski trip next winter, so maybe I'll give it a shot instead of my intended spandex setup.

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>>129288549
too abstract for you, goy?

>>129291655
Wouldn't mind stocking up on ammo, food, water for SHTF
And I am going to start keeping some cash at home.
I guess my main view with investing is.. it's just sitting in the bank, can I use it better, what can I do with it.

>>129275892
This nigga knows what's up
>derivative doomsday baby

>>129278878
Wtf I love Ireland now

>>129292023
>it's just sitting in the bank, can I use it better, what can I do with it
Exactly right. This low interest rate environment is meant to punish savers and reward spenders. So: what to spend it on?

Keep your mind open about that and you'll probably be on roughly the right track.

>>129292165
>So: what to spend it on?
lol that's the question
I have never even read anything on investing, I don't even know where to begin, let alone what to spend it on.

>>129274912
>60+ secs in
>nigger isnt even talking about the titled-topic of his video
>closed video
yawn, sage, hidden, reported.

>>129274912
I've lost faith in /pol/ after the Shemitah scare. I literally frightened my family with your bullshit,

>>129275892
The $555 Trillion Derivatives Debt Implosion Is About to Begin | Zero ...
www.zerohedge.com/news/2016.../555-trillion-derivatives-debt-implosion-about-begi...
Jun 25, 2016 - The $555 Trillion Derivatives Debt Implosion Is About to Begin
Jun 25, 2016 ????? Well, I'm waiting.

>>129292618
>what to spend it on
Well, do you have any plans for your life? Do you want to own land? Have a wife? Raise kids? Buy cars and wageslave?

Where are you in life?

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Thread

>>129282406
Globalism was supposed to make us all rich. Instead, it may destroy Western Civilization. Something to which Communism couldn't even accomplish.

>>129292956
I own 5 homes, one is $450,000. Have 4 kids. Swedish wife. Have many weapons and ammo.
You asked.

>>129292956
owning land would be nice , secluded grow my own food.
maybe own land to rent for making money
that is an interesting thought

and right now im just saving money
roughly around 400-500 a month

>>129293123
I love that piece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecPBCWS2Z1g

>>129274912
Trump will end the federal reserve and go after each person that tries to influence the economy
check them nugger

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>>129293259
other than saving money, my life plain has been, get buff and find an average submissive women with money lol

>>129293460
plan*

>>129293223
Sounds great, but you didn't answer what you wanted. I guess those other 4 home are rentals, in which case less than half a mil isn't very much, so I hope you're thinking about how to keep the properties in good shape and hiring helping hands who know what they're doing.

Are you getting any of your kids into shape to take over the operation?

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>>129289394
No. You can thank charity organizations for these niggers being here.

>>129289593
I don't have a GED and I'm in my mid 30s. I'm too old to start from the absolute bottom without being a joke to HR departments in the future, given my work history at one place.

>>129290978
Hence why this job is important to me.

>>129293460
Alright so I hope you're like early to mid 20s. If you can't follow up on your plan to get buff at that age you're in for a bad time later in life. Get your shit sorted out while those sorts of things are the worst you have to worry about. Snag a good woman.

Start putting aside 10%-20% of whatever you are earning into a one or two private accounts so that if you wind up with a bitch or making a mistake or crashing your car then you have something to fall back on. Don't worry about investment unless or until you just have too much extra money; at this point, worry more about getting where you want to be in life over the next 5-10 years of your life and worry about financial success after.

>>129277867
>>129278024
It's a cycle.
I guess u could say it a chart of Human Nature.
>>129281397
This ^^^^^ is correct.
It's hard times coming, and possibly Civil War, WWIII or both.
But not the end, the dawn will come.
I guess Kek came at the right time, and will leave when the new dawn comes as it must.
Bummer for us though.

>>129293165
But communism hopes to fill the gap.

>Be 39y/o
>At 16, take city's ocean lifeguard test
>pass at #4, get hired
>At 18, take civil service fire test, come out #2 on the list
>Get hired at 19, youngest in department history
>21, buy house in nearby city, start volunteering in their FD b/c I love my line of work
>Be 23, volunteer FD is a combination department with paid guys, decides to hire part-timers to supplement manpower, so I apply
>Get hired
>Work three jobs (lifeguard in summer only) for the past ~16 years
>Both fire gigs go under different state pensions
>Lifeguard gig has a city pension
>At 55 I will retire finally with three pensions
>Current salary between all three jobs is great… pensions will be impressive

I am not apologetic.

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Could THIS be true? Happening?

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>>129277851
well you have a butthole dont you? head on down to the truck stop im sure there would be a few takers.

>>129293588
>I'm too old to start

Go learn how to weld or do pipe fitting. No one told you to become a chemical engineer. Unless you're a nigger or fat dumb worthless white trash, in which case you should keep working at Walmart.

>>129293495
Total property worth 1.3 million, not a whole lot. 2 owned outright. 3 rentals.
What do I want? Security. I know how ugly the world can be and turn into. I know about depressions from my grandparents. I know how to play chess and strategize. Always looking 5 moves ahead as I did when I both most of my houses in 2009. They have doubled in price. My hobby is speculation and predictions. This is the future man. To predict and adapt.

>>129294236
>he thinks they won't up the retirement age to 74 in the next 16 years

There won't be any pension left over for you moron, all the white boomers in this country will be dead by that time and your money will go to pay for the new wave of brown people.

>>129275374
at least we already have the spic slave labor to save us

>>129293920
>Don't worry about investment unless or until you just have too much extra money
is 15k + enough extra money?

>>129294530
Its true. My grandpa is pulling in 3 phat pensions like that guy and gets Tricare. There will be nothing left. He is currently touring the country in an rv that cost more than my home.

>>129294483
You're probably alright. Keep on and refine your game. Only you know whether or not you are in an area where you will have continued clients.

But I'm serious about being able to turn things over to you children or whatever if you want insurance.

>>129286520
that gif ahahahahahahaaahaahhahahaaa

>>129294530
All three pensions are over 100% solvent right now. I will be fine.

Also, I have two IRAs.

>>129278878
this is true.

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>>129292777
Can't dispute those digits.

>>129294550
It depends what you want to do with your life. $15k is not really a lot of money. Think what people pay for cars these days.

I dropped about $17k on one the other month, and even though it was a bit of a splurge for a bit of a racecar, that's still cheap for a car. But I am a modest man.

Ask yourself what your costs are.

>>129279006
yup.

>>129294708
The kids have high IQs, good character and a good work ethic. I will hand over the money to them and they'll adapt to the new world. The AR-15 I bought for them not me. I'm not much into shooting. The AR-15 has never been fired.

>>129279479
The problem isn't those in debt its those that have something to lose. Zuckerberg and gates don't want their billions gone. Nor do banks as they couldn't manipulate you into wars.

>>129277581
2008-2016= 8 > 5

Faggot

>>129295206
low costs
if i don't need something, i don't buy it.
thing is, I don't need that 15k for anything, it's just sitting there
just ssems like its a waste just sittining the bank.
but i'm guessing i should focus on bettering myself and saving more before getting into investing

>>129280175
actually it is happening.
old enough to know.

>>129295353
>AR-15 never fired
ur doing it rong

Get out there and fire it with your kids. I'm still pissed I grew up as too much of a pussy where my grandad didn't even teach me to fire his BB gun in his basement. An AR is worth nothing if nobody knows how to use it.

>>129274912

protip: invest in etherium and bitcoin. especially etherium.

My prediction around 2025 the economy will collapse due to automation and no basic income present, while the capitalist system has gone rogue. Bitcoin will hit the $1 billion dollar mark and every 10th guy will be a billionaire.

Everyone is trying to cash out at the same time converting bitcoin into prewar money and all hell will break lose. Of course Mark Zuckerberg and all the other tech billionaires see this coming hence they are taking precautions like building underground high tech bunkers or like Zuckerberg a fortress far far far far far away from the mainland.

Little does he know he will end up like Captain Cook when shit hits the fan.

>>129295493
Well think ahead if you think there's anything you're going to need in the next few years then think about buying it.

Otherwise I guess just spread the savings around. You should have enough savings that if something gets fucked up or you want to make an unexpected move that you can cover the costs.

>>129295353
>never fired the AR
What are you a faggot? Jesus.

>>129295580
So money at that point is worthless?

>>129295540
True, I would know how to use it because I have other guns. My oldest son goes to the range all the time and would also, the younger ones however are green. I might be failing them, but since their brother died, the youngest wants nothing to do with dangerous stuff. The youngest kids always are a little softer. The oldest brother will have to take the lead when I go.

>>129284518
>>129286679
Really?
Make your way off to some isolated location?
You and 200,000 million other people hunting the last deer or elk in you county.
That's why we hope for a slow collapse that takes a few decades.
Which we seem to be in already.

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>There are people on this board right now who don't own any precious metals
Enjoy spending your life savings on a loaf of bread, goyim

>>129296032
I had to go back and read your other posts to try to determine if you're you're just trolling or what.

I think it's time for you to
1. man up
2. be the father your sons need

>>129295865
I bought it last year and haven't had the time. I plan on shooting this fall though when the weather cools in Phoenix. I do desert shooting, the range sucks.

Time to move to the wilderness in the Rocky Mountains and become one with the bears.

>>129296028
not worthless but the inflation between bitcoin and old currency will definitely leave a mark. Every 100 years or so money becomes worthless. Like back in 1929. That's why it's better to invest in physical things now instead of invisible value. If you have a house, land, precious metal you should be okay. Just make sure to have good protection.

this sounds intersting, bump

>>129296159
>precious metals are reliable in a time of crisis

The only thing people will want in a collapse is gasoline and bullets.

>>129296381
I live in an apartment, am I fucked?

>>129296187
No, I wouldn't troll /pol/. This is my family of like minded people.

OK, though, I will make of point of saying to the 2 youngest, "son, it is time to take you out shooting". The youngest, as I said, is crippled by a brother dying. I can't make him shoot. I will have to protect him and his oldest brother will have to take that on. I just can't bring myself to force the little one.

>>129287929
>too many thing are coming together
At the same time.
Well, what a time to be alive.
One side of this is remember, the big money is made at the bottom, if you have cash.

>>129296468
uhm, yup. Move closer to the outskirts. You don't wanna be in the city when shit hits the fan cos you won't get out of it. People will create roadblocks and shit, extort people for good. It's gonna be a nightmare. Best survival chances are going into the woods finding like minded people who have somewhat of honor and build a fortress community that's guarded heavily.

>>129296123
The idea is to be away from looters so I can grow food in peace. Anyone who think they are going to be able to reliably survive off hunting is stupid. When the easy pickings run out those in the city will start killing each other. When that runs out they will spread into the countryside. The farther you are from that the better.

>>129296850
Well I live in an city with a population of about 250k, should I move?
I mean it's not like I live in the center of NYC

>>129292777
>I showed my power level and everyone got scared
You never show your power level

>>129297002
I wouldn't worry then. I was just talking from my POV. I live outside of LA. And you don't wanna be in any city that has over a million people.

>>129297002
the more people, the faster the resources run out, the fast crazy shit happens.

>>129296648
For fuck's sake man what are you doing to me? I thought this was supposed to be as simple as which kind of gold or silver to buy.

It sounds to me like there's even more to this story. But I stand by my earlier suspicion that they need you to be a father.

>>129274912
>upcoming economic collapse guyz XDDDDD
for years and years you fags have been crying chicken tits

>>129296973
I can survive off hunting. Hunting people that is. Black pill.

>>129297231
I think the best things to do is to group together with people you can 100% trust and then start a little community so you aren't completely on your own.

>>129293123
Legit

>>129279006
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>>129297276
People like you are going to be the first to die when it happens.

>>129297141
There's an account of a person in Sarajevo when Yugoslavia collapsed. He was in the city and didn't have time to get out. He said if he had a do over, he'd definitely get out of the city. His experience is fascinating. His advice is to stockpile ammo, cigarettes, soap, he missed having soap. I think you can find it on the internet if you search.

>>129285582
t. anon looking at computer all day

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I kind of want to go out in a scenario that's either like fallout or last of us.

Fallout scenario:
>energy crisis
>nukes fly
>sit around after the blasts playing old fallout songs like "a kiss to build a dream on" and contemplate life and what happened to us

Last of us scenario:
>elites get tired of us and decide to herd us as "goyim" and spread zombie virus
>get a /comfy/ abandoned cabin innawoods sniping zombies, occasionally do some urban exploration

It wont happen but a larper can dream

>>129297297
Mmmm, Long Pork

>>129297640
The thing is if a nuclear war happens, you are fucked if you are in a populated area or semi populated area in the US, Russia, or any likely belligerent in the war.

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It never happens. Prove me wrong.

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>>129290196
amen.

dollars been dead for 4 years people who dont know this are fools

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>>129297591

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There won't be any sort of collapse you retarded retards. It will just be a very slow and steady decline in standard of living. We've already seen it first hand from the 60s compared to today.

There won't be any one single significant event that triggers it. America is doomed just based purely on its demographics, it will happen slowly over the course of decades. I live in Florida and it already resembles South America, as do most other Southern states.

I just hope Europe wakes up before they turn into us.

>>129294236
Pensions are going under, they need a min of 8% interest to survive.
Interest rates have been around 1.5% for 8 yrs.

>>129297944
It's happened before like in Germany in the 1920's
(although this may be more of an example of hyperinflation)
Although this could be more severe.

>>129294547
But that is part of the problem, we need to be working those jobs.

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>>129277851
>that voluntary segregation.

>pic unrelated

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It might not happen for 60 years or so.

They got so many moves they can make and so many smaller nations to break down into scrap.

Canada just got bailed out by US.

Us can threaten anyone cuz they bought enough of everybody else's currency to threaten collapses.

Maybe im wrong but collapse has been claimed for many many years now.

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>>129298365
And we all know what happened next.
Get ready :)

>>129298725
I think something big will happen in our lifetimes. But the world changing event we're hoping for probably won't happen within our lifetime, maybe when we are like 90 or something. But it will likely happen within our children's lifetime, and definitely within their children's lifetime.

>>129278878
There must be some sort of merit to being a drunken Irishman. Somehow this seems to be a pre-requisite for philosophical insight.

>>129274912
You know part of me does not want the economy to crash along with world because we turn into literal savages but the thought of the rich loading everything they have and even the elites guard turn against them because they don't have food or anything to give to them makes my dick hard like diamonds.

>>129274912
i have a friend who worked for a company that deals with freddie and fannie. he says everyone knows another collapse is going to happen. The banks are just ready for it this time.

>>129298857
The kids will have grey hair.

>>129298890
>banks are just ready for it this time
How do you mean? In what way?

>>129298857
Fiat currencies tend to last about 70 years max. The dollar is facing its twilight if old patterns hold.

But history won't progress linearly. They are close to knowing what genetic combinations affect intelligence and then they will start making super intelligent humans during the embryonic stage.

>>129274912

This might be just another tinfoil crap but in all due honesty I wished that financial capitalism collapsed and that we could return to gold supported currency and mercantile/industrial capitalism. Those systems are unbreakable.

>>129299198

Ah yes. Money in a vault/under the couch.

>>129299085
That's exactly what 23andMe was for

There was a story on /pol/ yesterday about FBI raiding some "research" clinic in California that was looking to see what genes cause opioid addiction.

>>129298981
the banks are way way way to big to allow this to happen lol, if a collapse happens we are crawling back to isolationism and then come back out and fight china for our place again.

>>129299304
Yeah, so what's their plan? Just keep printing more money? Electronic currency?

>>129299290
>>129299085
ok im fucking confused so if 23 and me are jews and the jews want to help make super beings, are the jews who own 23 and me our jews?

Having they been saying this shit for 20 years now?

>MUH CULLAPSE

>>129299365
a ww3
b same shit and same dollar
c ubi system
d print more money and save the next collapse and possibly make a one world government
e ?????? i cant really think anything else

>>129299402
How is making "super-beings" helping anyone? Are you retarded? You're not going to be one of them, neither will your children. It will be a select group of aristocrats and everyone else will be their slaves.

>>129297591
i think that guy runs the shtfplan.com blog.

>>129285276
withdraw it right fucking now

>>129275374
Did Martin Armstrong really create that in 1979?

>>129298140
That's the story I read! What a great read.

>>129277851
Rough Life! I certainly can't empathize with your situation as the least amount of money I ever made was $8 an hour in High School... in 1999.

Can you be semi-interesting to get some sort of patreon going? Cause them self-checkouts and shelf-stocking robots are comin!

>>129294483
so you're creating nothing and profiting from a finite resource due to government mismanagement. Eaf a dick faggot.

>>129298725
At least 25 years now these faggot conspirators have been yelling collapse

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>>129299589
>tfw the anti christ ends up being super child #666

>>129275565
Peter Schiff was in 2007.

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>>129300204
I fell for it in 2011 got tired of waiting in 2014ish

I'm more certain collapse won't happen given what a clown world we live in.

Nobody cares about credit....women like men with money so men play the money game. It's just a looooong drawn out humiliating breakdown to an 86-90 iq world ruled by a class of people that know how to keep the gay cycle going on and on.

>>129278878
This. It's not the mega-event happening we wanted.

>>129274912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIbc3R-o3cQ

this guy has definitely got good information

>Description
Dedicated to Watching the End Time Events that Lead to the Return of Our Lord Jesus Christ.Comets, Asteroids, Earth Quakes, Solar Flares and The End Time Powers.

>>129298182
That's what I just told my wife. Others have said the same thing. Like the T.S. Elliot poem, it won't go out with a bang but just a whimper. A slow decline.

>>129285276
>has $60k
>is depressed

>>129298182
>>129300510

Historically, what happens is a slow decline followed by a world-ending crisis. So the decay starts at a snail's pace but accelerates over time until the decline becomes rapid. I can't think of an empire that slowly decayed across time without a specific crisis that killed it.

>>129274912
We knew it's a timebomb for a decade now.

>>129293421
I hope so but that would probably cause more damage to the economy simply due to the resulting uncertainty. No matter how bad the order is, if is overthrown, it will cause temporary strife.

>>129274912
>>129275374
Is everyone worrying even more today after the tech losses? Supposedly it all crashed because of an article and a tweet.

>>129299981
Yes.
He predicted the 1987 stock market crash to the day.
He is also a coder, and wrote a AI program.
Check his blog daily.

>>129300790
Could be fast. The cities will burn first. The nignogs will kill each other off. I find niggers so stupid that they won't group up and go for the goodies in the burbs.

>>129300163
he actually is creating jobs by owning all that shit.

>>129283473

Who will stop them? The police who aren't getting paid, who are terrified to be police in a hostile, desperate environment? The trucking industry will grind to a halt as every 18-wheeler on the road is hijacked for the food out of the van and the gas in the tanks. All the wild game will dry up. All the trees will be cut down for fuel in the winter. It will be fucking terrible.

We're actually gearing up for a huge bullrun
get scared and lose out faggots
tech is overbought
but america is strong
everyone is bringing their money here
no crash
no black swan
no collapse
just money
lots of it
trust in trump
hes leaving the fed alone
america still is valuable
peace

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Hey anon. should i hoard cash or buy property with no debt to preserve my wealth for the upcoming crash

>>>/x/

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>>129301406
That's why the infinite growth Ponzi scheme we have now is doomed to failure, they keep importing people to bring up "birth rates". It will collapse one day, and it will do so horribly. It most likely won't be within our lifetime, so the Jews will get to kick the can down the road without paying any penalty for their crimes.

>>129301936
cool pic, now watch this scheme go on for decades more.

>>129301753
>We're actually gearing up for a huge bullrun
>>129301753
this is true, and i've been in the market.
but there will be a crisis, probably in pensions, bonds and treasuries.
that could actually force the market higher as people look to park money, because you can't keep big bucks in the banks when they can take it in a bail in.

So, uh.. fellow goys, how do I make money out of this collapse?

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>>129274912
mfw i only have 100k to my name, what do I do with it?

My entire village has a plan if this happens.

We have about 45 boats, and a tonne of guns and ammunition. We even have explosives.

My entire village will load up
And sail to Australia where the people are soft and weak and start enslaving them to sell as slaves in Asia.

The one we kill we'll eat.

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>>129284185

How do i prepare for this? How do i survive an aconomic collapse?

No stockpiling ammo and stuff like that, i mean like how do i not lose my wealth.

>>129274912
Yes, it will fall eventually and then settle down and pick up again. You're not going to starve to death. Have a fun few months in your bunker though if you like your alarmism with a lot of spice.

>>129299589
im talking about future shit not present time think but you have the right point

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>everything will be ok

>>129302737
buy a bomb shelter and have a life time supply of food in it make sure your bomb shelter is air tight with air purifier

I'm not worried about my mom, she's a doctor and is well taken care of. My dad, however, is a retired cop and has a really nice pension. This burst is scaring the shit outta me that he might lose that and have to start working again.

I'd be devastated seeing that happen to him

>>129302173
If there is big military action or a big terrorist event that could be the spark to send things into disarray

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>>129284185

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>>129277360
>Goddamn the fucking banks.

Amen!

>>129302372
Someone answer this please.

>>129303201
use it to pay someone to read the thread for you

>>129302372
Give it to me, I'll take real good care of it

>>129274912
>americans stop paying their credit cards
>entire global economy collapses

makes me kek every time

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mmmhmmm yep totally, better get ready for that collapse, also get ready for martians to invade us and steal all of our frogs.

>>129302347
mostly u should not carry any debt into the next few years.
that frees you up, gives you options.

>>129302996
no problem, they'll just move in with you.....:)

>>129274912
oh no! women cant wear makeup 24/7 anymore, PANIC!
literally some food and a water source, shelter and fire can be made...

>>129303201
you could buy a small house in a small town.
shit, you could buy 2 or 3 and rent them.

>>129304294
Thing about that, I'm living with him

>>129288705
>dis tym iz dffrnt guyz
suresure not a bubble

>>129289213
>work for free at times to get my work done.
That's illegal as fuck

>>129305822
Truth is no one gives a crap about minimum wage jobs. There's a reason so many of them do drugs and hardly ever get into any trouble.

how does one in canada benifit off an economic collapse ie do i play stocks crypto currency or soemshit?

>>129307777

>>129301078
Who gives a fuck the fed needs to die and their owners sodomized to death with a baton, kaddafi style.

>>129277851
I like the segregation in this pic. niggers to the back of the breakroom

>>129277900
A garden is also a good idea. Even if it's just a balcony or a window. Anything you can grow yourself will help your bottom line and help you build useful skills.

>>129278878
Nice one Ivory coast. I knew you niggers had some some intelligence.

>>129285276
Don't worry, during a great depression your existence becomes actually meaningful. Everything you'd do would matter.