Why are Western Millennial Men retreating from Society towards

>>129256583

Preparing for living in space and piloting spaceships. Same goes with their lifestyle.

They're 40 years ahead of their time.

>>129256583
why do you post this like 5 times a day?

If I get VR is the VR porn good enough to legitimize the purchase?

Seems like the games aren't there yet.

>>129257278
no, the porn isnt that good. the games are fun though.

>>129257278
It's a gimmick. Don't belive the hype.

Also, another faggot data mining thread.

These (1) threads with a single line in the title and no text in the post body need to be rewarded with an instant permaban.

All jobs pay shit I'm 23 and made 55k last year that was barely enough for me to have any fun, why the fuck would I want a expensive responsibility

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>>129256583
Because modern society has a soul shaped hole deep inside of it. They ask "What's the point of putting effort into a sterile rat race?" and it's a bloody good question.

The post modernists have destroyed almost everything that gives men a sense of belonging. Community, physical labor, respect of the father, competition, all have been stripped out of society.

There's was a study done by a guy called Jaak Pankksep, and he discovered that you can tickle rats. Sounds simple enough eh? But what was so groundbreaking about Pankksep's discovery is that there's proof of a play circuit deep in all mammals. And in terms of mammals humans and rats are pretty well separated. Most people don't like to consider themselves close to rats eh? And one of the things about baby rats is that if you take them away from their mother, they die. Even if they have food water, you name it man, they die. BUT, if you play with the rats and tickle them they can survive. Similar thing happened in Bulgaria, at least I think it was Bulgaria. Anyways after the war there were hundreds of abandoned newborns because of all the destruction, and they had no place to go so the Bulgarians had to deal with hundreds of babies all kept in a warehouse, and they obviously got very little individual attention. And EVERY SINGLE of those infants grew up to be deeply, deeply scarred psychologically because they weren't played with. So there is something about playful physical contact that isn't just healthy, but is REQUIRED for mammalian life.

This becomes even more interesting when you look at the effects of amphetamine. When juvenile rats were given amphetamine in an experiment that lost all desire to play. Pretty interesting eh? And what happens to human children when they're given amphetamine? They lose all desire to play. So we give these drugs to children who won't sit still in a chair for eight hours a day, which is something children aren't bloody built for.

>>129258982
Stupidest thing I've read all day

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>>129256583
You would know the reason why if you saw my library.
Medieval 2 TOTAL WAR
Empire TOTAL WAR
Men of WAR
WAR Thunder
Company of Heroes
Blitzkrieg 2
Codename Panzer
Liberation 1944 - Iron Front
Arma 2
Graviteam Tactics

I'm just an innocent millennial

Partially because society is becoming a nightmare

>>129260119
Get rid of War Thunder and play a real sim. Learn to dogfight like a real man.

they are fun

>>129260360
I have a panzer fetish.

>>129259291
Neck yourself faggot. It is concise and true.

>>129257278
the porn IS good enough

>>129259291
Unironically just as constructive as an actual burger.

>>129256583
Feminism has poisoned women against men, and turned men into self loathing shells. It's literally destroying society.

>>129258982
stop saying "bloody"

you sound like the biggest faggot on earth.

>>129256583
>not wearing pajams
what is that, some sony shit?

dude isn't even having fun. he's just a fat sad sack of shit.

Video games are to men what Social Media is for women.

Women are addicted attention and validation, so social media functions as a 24/7 validation machine.

Men are addicted to accomplishment and feelings of prowess/competence. So video games function as 24/7 accomplishment machines.

I read video game popularity was plummeting.

>>129256583
I just retreat to pol, I have become to white wing for even my other right leaning friends.

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>>129256583
>Go out clubbing
>Meet up with the boys to crack open a cold one to pre-game
>10 dollars
>Get an Uber to the club
>15 dollars
>Get into the club
>10 dollar drinks
>another 10 dollar drink
>Maybe another 10 dollar drink
>Maybe hit on a few bitches
>Looks like the bait ain't catching
>5 dollar Uber to get food
>10 dollars of food
>10 dollars Uber to friends place
>Pass out
>Wake up
>15 dollar delivery because hangover
>drive home
>probably spent like 2-5 dollars on gas

vs

>Buy 60 dollar game
>Can put in over 500 hours into it if the game is good.
>Crack open a cold one with the boys over Discord
>Eat and drink stuff at home
>Get called unsociable when you spent a solid 10 hours of chatting with friends and strangers online.

Economics is a real thing you filthy commie.

>>129261449
Can't argue with that.

>>129256583
Low test cucks that can't handle reality.

why does this same thread pop up EVERY DAY?

>>129261449
>men are dumb enough to chase fake accomplishment

>>129261367
Unironically just as constructive as an actual leaf.

>>129258982
I pretty much agree with that hypothesis, but I'm quite in favor of harvestig children and using drugs to avoid creating an army of psychos. Who wants to deal with kids anyways? We also can avoid creating another wave of boomes/millenials. Also gentic engineering may even make it possible to avoid drug usage.

>>129256583
What reasons do they have not to?

>>129257278
Just wait a decent amount of time so the technology gets better. Right now it's nothing more than wired, glorified goggles.

Western Civilization is beginning to decay, the are retreating from Society towards Video Games because they sense it, deep in their bones, and are trying to distract themselves because they realize there's noting they can do. If they speak up, society rejects them. Many of them have simply given up.

>>129261884
Low test cucks who have retreated from the long term commitment of life to instantly gratifying virtual worlds.

>>129256583
>1 post by this ID

this is a bait thread faggots

don't respond to obvious shit like "why do X -- " threads

>>129256583
we always have
its called taking a break from the mundane life and enjoying a little fantasy time.

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>>129261943
Tradcucks can't handle men living for themselves.

>>129256583
Because their primary role in society is being destroyed. It has little to do with video games and porn and everything to do with what is expected of a man and what is expected of a woman in modern society. When the lines are blurred, and women become bread winners independent of men, men opt-out because it becomes too much work without balance. A woman should raise children and keep a good home. A man should provide and protect his family. That is how it has worked for thousands of years until the last 100 years, and now the fabric of society is beginning to fray.

>>129257278
VR is a gimmick that will die faster than motion controls

>>129256583
Because bilge drinking like you grandparents did is out of fashion (healthy life style and all that), also now it is much more difficult to get away DYI comparing to your degenerate grandparents times.
TV your parents watched is crap comparing to /vg/, and falls in quality every day thanks to libshits.

>>129262327
>Western Civilization is beginning to decay,
People retreated out of reality since recorded times. There is a reason american women wanted to ban alcohol for your grand-grand-grand dad from (((great generation))).

>>129256812
FPBP

>>129256583
I don't do any of that and I'm still a failure D:

>>129258726
>Living in a lol city.

Video games are not only degenerate in the truest sense of the word but it captivates you into an unrealistic reality. Instead of striving ahead for your betterment as an individual and experiencing your life you get sucked into acquiring stats and virtual status. If you feel like youre caught in a shitty cycle that revolves around video games sell your system and collection on craigslist or some shit and use that cash to do something youve wanted to do or start a hobbie you have a mild interest in. If it works out that you start spending your time doing something more fulfilling then youll feel great and start enjoy real life. Sounds kinda gay but it helped me tons, I feel better and experienced some pretty cool stuff.

>>129256583

To late to explore the world. Too early to explore the galaxy.
And so video games.

>>129256583
Women became whores

Men want women to have families with

Not whores

>b-b-but muh prostitutes!

Whores and whoremongers

Its what's wrong with society

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>>129257278
Yes

>>129256583
Because society is boring and video games are fun. You're telling me you couldn't figure that out?

>>129262042
>Accomplishment isn't subjective

>>129256583
I play a lot of video games. I can explain this easily: video games are more rewarding than real life. Ive tried real life and it is objectively shit. For a few dollars a month I can immerse myself in a world where I am a successful badass with lots of friends.

If young men had more pussy/job prospects less of them would lose themselves to gaming.

>>129256583
Man are wired to seek honor, glory, domination.

Currentyear culture is denying them a chance to ever achieve it, even if deserved.

Seek fulfillment in imaginary rewarding world.

/thread

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>>129256583
>>129257278
rip vr
i just wanted to BE the little girl :/

Maybe if people weren't so crazy about video games they would be capable of doing the race war we all are waiting for. We have to much people fighting for degeneracy than people fighting for the ideas and ideal we are developing on /pol/...

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>>129256583
my shit tier paint.net skills
THE HERO WE NEED

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>>129261827
Don't forget the psychedelics. Normalfags can't into the power of magic mushrooms while playing Final Fantasy.

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WESHTERRN MILLENNIALLL MENNNN


oh rabbi...

>>129256583
>Something that actually rewards your performance, gives you at least somewhat clear objectives

I wonder why.

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>>129272284
i like it

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>>129258371
>>129263733

I own a Rift and you two fucking retards have no idea what you're talking about. People who say current VR is a gimmick have either never tried it or are jealous poorfags who are butthurt they can't afford VR.

>>129261827
>gather the coolest and craziest fuckers in my college, go out drinking and clubbing
>night costs me $200 in drinks, have to lean on rich friend for another $150 for food, drink minimums, taxi, etc
>craziest friend walks up to some random skank on the street attached to her BF and spanks her ass
>proceeds to snag pizza out of BF's hand and book it across downtown
>bunch of drunk chads are now chasing us across town
>rich friend slips, falls backwards and smashes his head on the pavement
>blood everywhere but he's plastered drunk
>'Im fine guys'
>we dip into a hookah lounge to hide
>crazy friend (who is brown as fuck) starts making all these loud racist remarks about indians.
>the lounge is full of indians
>we get kicked out
>head back to rich friend's place, stop in to buy more beer and hard alcohol on the way home
>two drunk girls holding a whole large pizza bump into us at the corner
>they, for some reason that I was too drunk to understand at the time, gave us the pizza

It was fun lads, I'll admit. Was it a good fun ratio per hour per dollar though? No, no it was not.

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>>129262042
>chase fake accomplishment
fake accomplishments are rewards for doing nothing, or doing something that's so trivial and below the personal involvement of whoever is doing it, that it's actually meaningless to them.
like a trophy for "participation" or performing shitty grinding work bagging groceries or filling out forms in an office, or simply being told "you win" for sitting on an uncontested capture point for 5 minutes in an online game. (ex: planetside 2 likes doing this)

everything above that however is probably a legitimate accomplishment, even if the actual effect on the person or their environment is incredibly minor. as long as the person performing the task believes themselves to have accomplished something worthwhile *to themselves* it is at least partially a real accomplishment.

of course doing something for someone else is better because it helps society at large, but after a certain point society becomes SO LARGE it becomes impossible for most people to feel accomplishment even if they perform life-saving tasks.
"futility" of an ER doctor trying to save a gangsters life only for the dumb cunt to get shot and die in yet another fight, taking that second chance and shitting on it.

people who experience such things simply attempt to maintain their own sanity through whatever accomplishment they can manage, even if its through "meaningless" videogames high-score charts.

>>129256583
In the future when all wars are fought with drone soldiers and drone planes, these gaming addicts will be invaluable. Good thing we have Korea and Japan on our side.

>>129276243
>Korea
They are slowly becoming resentful of us sadly.

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>>129275490
>that pic
NC knows that feel

>>129256858
Millennial threads seem to be a nonstop obsession.

>>129256583
why not? the real world is shit

>>129256583
besides, the line between "real" and "virtual" is getting blurred more anyways

>>129269748
Pixels are a fake accomplishment.

>>129272712
I cant keep my shit together on mushrooms let alone do something like play a great game

>>129278380
How is a victory in a game less valuable than a victory in a sport or something? Experience is subjective.

>>129278380
This guy >>129275490 did a good job at explaining how the value of accomplishment is subjective.

>>129278380
no, no they are not

>>129278651
Because it's comprised of pixels and isn't real. You're better off doing something tangible. I know it's hard to accept you have wasted thousands of hours of your life chasing integers that have no consequence in the real world.

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>>129256583

>>129278685
Computer games can trick your monkey brain into feeling a sense of accomplishment, but that sense of accomplishment has no bearing on anything in the real world, so in terms of effect, it's meaningless and you're better off doing something else.
Games are fun, but seeking a sense of accomplishment from them is delusion.

>>129279110
>isn't real
Alrighty bro. There is absolutely no difference between completing a virtual task and a physical one. All of experience is just chemical reactions happening in the brain. Did you live a happy life? If so, if it was 'real' or not has no meaning.

>>129278933
Yes, fatty.
It's grasping at mist.

>>129279110
I'm diamond in lol, have a degree in biochemistry, and after looking for work for years finally got a job in coding.

My lol (videogame) accomplishment is much realer than my (tangible?) degree accomplishment. Value is in the eye of the beholder, not some guy in Britain's eye.

>>129256583
Why do you keep making this thread. You didn't even post anything but a subject you lazy baiting nigger.

>>129279403
The difference is the effect in the real world. Nobody gives a fuck about your kill death ratio in the real world. People care about your bank balance and inventions.

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>>129256583
This is what we'll have for society I predict

>>129274255
I tried a demo for the HTC Vive in a Microsoft Store. It was pretty fun, and I'd get it if I wasn't a poorfag. My PC probably needs a bit of an upgrade first, though.

>>129279668
>People care about your bank balance
Every single fucking time. /pol/ is always right

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>>129279668
Right, that's what OTHER PEOPLE care about. So yes, you should fulfill your obligations to society. That's not what we're talking about.
Since experience is subjective, it's what matters to YOU that matters. There's no difference to your brain if your accomplishment is virtual or not.

>>129279536
This is what I was trying to say. I hold some of my game experiences to be much better accomplishments than my 'real life' accomplishments. That's not to say I'm not successful though, I'm very happy where I am.

>>129279943
You don't live in a vacuum.
Value is socially determined for a reason.
Nothing wrong with games, but as previously mentioned, it's a waste of time as anything other than amusement.
Your level 80 warlock with the best gear is gone as soon as the servers shut down and nobody will give a fuck. There's no lasting real world effect. So in terms of time investment and pay off, gaming is worthless as a sense of achievement.

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I see these threads here all the time but I don't feel like it applies to me. Even if I was living in the times of breeding like rabbits I'd still be a social pariah and die as a kissless virgin.

this is like the fucking 800th thread

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>>129279668
>inventions
Almost every single person that has a work, does it for the money. Pretty much nobody "invents" anything, and if they do, the things they "invent" are so trivial that nobody will even remember who "invented" it within a year.

99.9999% of people are just working because they have to, or because they believe it will get them something. They do not contribute a single good thing to humanity. Even us, discussing these subjects here, contribute more to the totality of human progress.

You're born, you make money to buy useless trinkets, you die. Nobody gives a shit about your bank balance. Nobody. All they care about, is how they compare to yours. Don't confuse that with them caring about you, even superficially. The function of knowing your bank balance is only to stroke their own ego. Ultimately, you only exist for yourself. In your world, you is all there is, wether you choose to believe that or not - it's the truth. When you sleep at night, does the world exist? Does it really matter? You're born, you live, and you die. What you do in the middle there, is your choice.

I live for me. Maybe making others happy makes me happy, so I do that. Or maybe playing video games makes me happy, so I do that. Why do you care? You live for you. Anything else is an illusion.

>>129280385
I'm sorry but I completely disagree with you. Just because you don't see the value in things that are virtual doesn't mean there isn't value there.
Teamwork building, confidence building, skill building, etc are all achievements. My girlfriend used to be terrified of going to interviews because of her social anxiety. Playing games online with a microphone (first with me and then with randoms) allowed her to overcome that.
My best friend is a laborer but a new job required him to learn some advanced level PC stuff. Video games allowed him to practice and have fun- now he can do it without thinking.

There is absolutely nothing different about completing an action virtually or physically, both are equally an achievement. Scientific minds of old would travel hundreds of miles to meet up in person just to discuss simple philosophy. Today's scientists are connected around the world in an instant with text that takes place only in the virtual world. Is that scientific setting less valuable simply because it is virtual?

>>129256583

I get way more endorphin's and motivation from grinding for gear than listening to shit music and drinking coffee with normies who have nothing interesting to say

Seriously normies bore me to death, especially considering 90% of what they go on about is some thinly veiled propaganda for their position in the social hierachy

Unmarried young men should be fined and their income heavily taxed.

>>129281826
No, potato, you will not trick us into a revolution.

>>129275490

yea we know that video games arent real and dont matter but thanks for the quick rundown ya sperg ass faggot

>>129280385
I, not women on Facebook, determine my own happiness.

>>129281826
Eat shit, potatonigger.

>>129256583
Because reality is shit and cyberspace is god.

because counterstrike is the only place where i am still allowed to swear and yell and goof around and make crude jokes without risking losing my job or being kicked out of college

i'm actually allowed to act masculine , it's crazy right? we clearly must put a stop to this

>>129261292
good goy, it's the fault of the women yes. stay at home and buy video games and porn. do not go out and try to better your station. the more you give up, the more we win. do not work together. one person cannot make a difference.

>>129283412

That's because everyone you play with is russian in CSGO

>>129283787
He might be inclined to do so if you give him a rigid rubric of things to aspire to, while guaranteeing him rewards for meeting those rigid goalposts.

>already sounding like a video game

>>129285326
in US we get BRs, columbians, venezualans, etc

no eastern yuros

>>129286199

So it's even worse?

Why can't we just play with people in our fucking country who speak bloody english

>>129286543
play on client, download cevo, faceit, etc

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The romance is over. The practice for the real thing is the next thing.
mount d: d:\ -t cdrom
Install Kill Marxists
Choose soundblaster 16

>>129275490
God dammit anti, stop trying to justify your battle gal.

>>129257278
trust me, I got the occulus and all the porn is bugged and shitty. the tech isnt there yet, give vr another 10 years

>>129257278
VR Porn is pretty great actually, being able to look up at a girl that's "riding" you, and look down and see her pussy is great.

>>129258982
You're being a faggot by typing the way Peterson speaks, been on a JBP lecture binge I'm guessing. I remember him bringing up that same study,

Stop posting on pol and journey to the underworld to rescue your father, NOW.

Men require a challenge in their life to feel fulfillment.

They retreat towards video games because they use them to fill a hole where family and work related goals would normally fill.

>>129289491
>being able to look up at a girl that's "riding" you, and look down and see her pussy is great.
You know there's a cheaper way to achieve that effect, right?

>>129289936
Good artists copy, great artists steal'

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>>129256583
This is probably the most important and simultaneously will be the most ignored post in this thread.

>Why are Western Millennial Men retreating from Society towards Video Games?

Incremental socialism and moral relativity, on top of awful monetary and banking policies that lead to no economic incentives to start a family or produce physical goods or offer services to supper such families.

>>129291210
>supper such families

Support I mean!

>>129256583

Cause they want to get further from society that rejects them

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Bumping with Lain

>>129290527
But in the long run its always going to be more expensive. Unless you're talking about rape

>>129274255
>I own a goyviewer

How much did you waste on HD-DVD, gimmick goy?

>>129292550
I get that this isn't /v/, but the amount of people denying that VR is a trend that is catching on is insanity. Even if you don't want VR for gaming, companies are starting to use VR for all kinds of prototyping tasks.

>>129270136
Until your asshole gets a 500 ping

>>129256583
>1 post by this ID
A fucking empty post.

Anyway, the answer is simple: for many, society offers no realistic reward worth pursuing.

>>129259291
so you didn't read it it than?

>>129279177
Godammit anon. I came here to laugh