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Men saying “no thanks” to college

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>Maxwell is among a generation of young men who increasingly are turning their backs on colleges, universities and the associated degrees — either dropping out of upper-level learning or never considering it a viable option.

>Some of the young men shunning campus say they don’t want to take on massive student-loan debt.

>“If you don’t want to go to college you can go to a trade school and come away with something and not be on the hook for $150,000,” said 28-year-old Adam Stark, who dropped out of college and now is thriving in the music business in Denver.

>Others say the campus environment has become testy, even hostile, toward men. “You definitely get the sense you are the problem,” said Maxwell. “One woman once told me that she could use statistics to determine how many of my friends were rapists.”

>Whatever the reason, enrollment data show men are becoming less of a presence on college campuses both in Colorado and across the United States.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/04/men-women-college-proportion/


An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros", instead of going to college, climbing the corporate ladder, and securing an income that will allow them to buy a home in order to become "marriage material", attract a wife, and start a family.

Stop neglecting your responsibilities!
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shut the fuck up you salty dried up cunt you dont matter no matter how many times you attempt to bullshit us on these boards fuck you die
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lol, college is a scam. You can just get a job and save money. Getting a student loan is a retarded idea unless you have money.
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>>129249493

get raped bitch
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>>129249739
>an just get a job and save money.

You can get a minimum wage job, but with the way rents are exploding all across the country while wages remain stagnant, you won't be saving shit!
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>>129249493
Stop being fucking sluts, even one partner is too much.
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Maxwell is right. There are tons of different ways to get ahead in life and college is not becoming one of them.

I got a trade and now I'm making more than I know what to do with.
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>>129249493
>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros", instead of going to college, climbing the corporate ladder, and securing an income that will allow them to buy a home in order to become "marriage material", attract a wife, and start a family.

Compared to:

>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros", while going to college; instead of climbing the corporate ladder, and securing an income that will allow them to buy a home in order to become "marriage material", attract a wife, and start a family.
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>>129250061
What do you do?
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>>129249603
I got you senpai
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>>129250229
Electrical Engineer.
Pretty decent money honestly. I also live a simple lifestyle and just don't spend much so I end up with a lot of extra.
Got a truck, nice computer, some game systems and I keep my place clean and stocked.
It's comfy desu.
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>>129250516
>>>/reddit/
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>>129249493
>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros", instead of going to college, climbing the corporate ladder, and securing an income
Brits have been doing this for decades.
The whole parklife thing, and beyond.
Pretty sad.
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>get electrician apprenticeship

>pay only $100 a semester

>get paid while I work

>classroom material doesn't waste time with worthless liberal arts

>finish in five years, can immediately get jobs paying as high as $30

Why should I go to college again? To be forced into gender sensitivity workshops and (((art))) classes and pay thousands a year to be told how evil I am for being a man while the Marxist professor tries to shill the "benefits" of socialism to me?
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Learn a trade, something that takes a little skill and make yourself useful. Robots are going to take all those stupid menial jobs soon anyways.
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>>129249493
>Becoming a wagecuck to a system that hates you and wants to destroy you...
WEEW, LAD.
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>>129249493

Men and women shouldn't be around each other after the age of 10

They hold each other back educationally due to puberty differences

In the workplace it's a different culture too

I bet in the 1950s male workplaces (with a few women secretaries / cleaners) were far more productive, relative to the technology at hand

"Feminists" or women generally don't want to be physically separated from men because they know men will pick up the slack

College for women is mostly socialising and dating opportunities and female college debt is a burden on society, either married men have to divert resources indirectly to pay it off or women enter make-work jobs in human resources
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>>129249493
I'm learning a trade does that count?
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I can't wait until successful women start marrying each other, and leave these men in the dust. Women will be buying beautiful houses in lush scenic areas, going on vacations, eating healthy food, and become more and more beautiful, and more and more off limits to you plebs. Men will all be living in trailers, drinking cheap beer, and driving a truck that is falling apart. Men will still do the physical work like construction, but the pay will be less and less. Won't men resist, you ask?
Haha! The funniest part is that it will be other men who enforce such a system. Like fucking dogs, led around by your dicks. Payback is a bitch indeed.

>muh I can be a stay-at-home-dad
In your dreams, Mr. defective chromosome.
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It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY as a male to:

A) Become a taxpaying citizen.
B) Get married and start a family.
C) Make sure your children ALSO becoming taxpaying citizens and start a family.

Your fathers bought into this "societal social contract". They got good jobs, paid their taxes, and had kids.

If you DON'T continue the cycle, the SYSTEM will CRASH. If that happens, you can kiss society GOODBYE.

In fact, we're seeing signs the system is on its way to crashing right now. Why do you think governments are concerned about birthrates and immigration? If not enough people pay taxes and raise kids who will pay taxes as well, society will crash and there will be chaos in the streets.
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>>129250516
Did you get an apprenticeship right off the bat or did you go through college first?
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This thread makes me even more ambivalent about going to University. It feels like OP is using peer pressure and the need for social acceptance in order to make people feel bad about not going to college. Damn I hate our times.
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I support trades but if we white men vacate universities than were also vacating the positions of power in society. CEOs, politicians, thinks like that.

With this in mind im 18 and dont know what to do. I can either do trades or law any advice?
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>>129249493

Fuck off jew

Good luck getting the niggere and spics doing your work cuz we all know they are retarded and can't do it.
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>>129250276
I must impregnate
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>>129251014
Who is this spunk monkey?
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>>129249493
>>Some of the young men shunning campus say they don’t want to take on massive student-loan debt.
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Colleges are now SJW indoctrination centers. Crazy to send your kid to a cult much less pay $100,000 for the privilege of doing so.
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>>129249493
fuck off dad
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>>129251008
>Women
>Successful
WEWLAD
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A
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>>129251008

Pretty good bait. You even made it sound like your character was trying to convince herself.
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>>129251101
I lucked out and a friend recommended it to me. I talked with my a guy and he liked me so he gave me a shot.
Gave me a job and helped me pay for trade school.
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>>129251014
>caring for this sick, degenerate jewified society
This fuckin' good goy.
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>>129251014

You mean like some of those in my family that got out of highschool and quickly found a nice paying blue collar job? You mean THAT social contract? Where is it now? If you can find it I would love to have it.
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>>129251149
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>>129250516

Electrical engineer was my first choice. I settled on mechanic and a ton of related certificates(collusion repair, motorsports fabrication and engineering, etc). It's a good trade with tons of different skills.
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>>129251014
she's gross
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>>129251014
Lel. I want society to crash so I can afford a house and do those things you say.

Society crashing is literally the only hope to get some respite from mass immigration. So being a neet, or just working and fucking sluts is actually based as fuck.
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>went to uni
>have decent job
>not autistic
>still no gf
>have several friends with the same issue
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>>129249493
This isn't a bad thing.
We need a higher education revolution to cast off the degree mill mentality of universities. Men are just becoming fiscally "awake". They're unwilling to go 30 grand or more into debt just for a worthless piece of paper when by and large you can get the same, or a better education on your own by doing things, or go to a trade school and make a very comfortable salary with good benefits and without most of the ratrace feel. Colleges need to get back to the basics.
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>>129251112
Decide for yourself, it's the only real freedom you have
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Going to college does not help your odds of getting a job any more. All that matters are connections, that's literally it.
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>>129249493
And so humanity once again creates a rift between peasant and royalty, a new future slave generation is forming...
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not going to college = making money and having the possibility of affording a family when you feel like it

going to college = massive student debts that permanently destroy your ability to buy things like a home, a car, an education for your kid, life insurance, etc
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>>129249493
>in order to become "marriage material", attract a wife, and start a family.

All women are whores, why the fuck marry them? Why should I give a fuck what a woman thinks about me? I can start a family at any time by impregnating any whore I can bed. Yet, why should I let myself get tied down to one of these cumdumpsters so that they can try to dictate the terms of my existence? Fuck that.
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>>129249493
we recognize the future
all productive work automated
women and minorities given makework prestigious positions
white men other than chad and geniuses in the fucking gutter
why bother putting ourself into debt when were already fucked
enjoy the semi skilled labor were still allowed to have and hunker down for what is hopefully a race war but will probably just be a slow genocide of our kind
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no problem. peterson has taken on the task to move university into the internet and make it great again.
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>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros"

Sounds exactly like college
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>>129250061
I dropped out last year, started trade school two weeks ago.
Fucking loving it!
Class is basically learn what you need to learn that day while shooting the shit and talking like men do while not having to worry about who I might "trigger"
I'm going HVAC so come summer life is going to suck but I'll be making more money than if I had stayed in microbio while at the same time have what is essentially complete job security since I live in AZ.
Best decision I've made to date.
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>>129249493
FUCK OFF BOOMER AND YOUR FUCKING SHIT STOCK MARKET
IVE MADE HUNDRED OF THOUSANDS OFF BITCOINS AND ALL I DAY IS JERK OFF AND PRESS SOME BUTTONS.
REEEE FUCKING BOOMERS
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>>129250920
Depends on the trade. If it's heating and cooling, you're an idiot
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>>129251111
Why not go to a Christian university so you don't have to put up with this harassment?
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>>129251014
>implying
Society lost a little more than 60 years ago
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>be me
>go to uni
>get degree
>land job
>make $80,000
>be the boss of some random /pol/ack and if he speaks up or spergs out, I'll fire his ass right then and there, giving him a well needed wake-up call
this board is satirical you dumb fucks
this board is to satirize and parody politics
the more you "go down the rabbit hole," the more "redpills" you swallow, the more unemployable and unfuckable you become
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>>129250516
>electrical engineer
>trade school

Do they give out engineer diplomas without 4 years of ed over there?
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>>129251014
(((YOUR ENTIRE POST)))
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>>129252261
whats wrong with heating and cooling seems pretty permanently needed
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I almost got a degree in environmental biology.
But midway through my junior year I said screw this debt and 'maybe' job prospects, left college and took up HVAC. I make 70k a year without trying and could do 100k if I wanted.

EVERYONE needs trades. Everyone needs their air conditioning, their furnace to run, their electricity, their plumbing and their auto mechanics. And at 2pm on a roasting hot sunday afternoon in august, their air conditioner will fail, and they will pay whatever I ask. Its $200 for me to just show up in their driveway on weekend emergencies. Because tradespeople are in short supply. And robots are never going to be able to drive to your house, wade through your kids and cats to get to your damp basement, down your steep steps, and behind your christmas decorations to your furnace and figure out why its coming on but you aren't getting heat.

Nobody needs you, oh college degree holder. There are a million of you sitting around who cant find jobs in their degrees and have to struggle by working at a starbucks, sending out resumes, and sweating their student loans. There is a glut of you and you're putting yourselves into 80k debt for 40k/professions. But everyone --everybody-- needs trades.
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>>129252714
probably an electrician.

they make bank.
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>>129249493

And all those who shunned college and can't get a good job will push for socialist ideas to help them and the rest of the populace. I don't really see the problem here.
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>>129252850
Why not consider Comp Sci?
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>>129252261
>If it's heating and cooling, you're an idiot
why m8? I'll start at about 18-25 and hour depending on where I land with commission on any new components I sell (install) on calls on top of all that. Then when I take the shortage on HVAC technicians in this state it's a solid move.
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>>129251535
you lucky mofo
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>>129252850
this
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>>129249493
This is a good thing. Less men in college means less liberals.

>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros"
In other words /pol/tards

This isn't a bad thing.
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>>129252964
Your problem will be when they go full national socialist
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>>129252410
Theyre saying some degrees are not worth it. Obviously universities arent entirely useless.
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>>129252964

>my ID is even red
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>>129251014
men live far better without the system than women

the system was set up to protect women. once it falls, nature in all it's horrible glory will return.
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>>129249493
cannon fodder.
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>>129249493
They're being dumb. College loan forgiveness is coming, the next Democrat president will push it through, the smart thing to do is taking on 500k of student debt and getting a medical degree, then letting the suckers pay for it.
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>>129250691
>as high as $30

oh sweety
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>>129253260
Almost all of them are useless unless you go to a top tier university or get higher than 3.8 gpa.

They've lowered standards so much to rake in that student loan money that it doesnt even matter what degree you get.
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Why are all these articles basically
>REEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE HOW DARE YOU NOT SPEND YOUR MONEY BLINDLY REEEEE REEEEEE GIVE ME YOUR MONEY, GIVE IT REEEEEEE

Same with shit like the golf industry and buffalo fuck wings or whatever it's called.
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>>129250516
How do you know if someone is an engineer? Don't worry, they'll always tell you. Enjoy pushing paper for the rest of your life.
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>>129249493
It's not my job to go into debt, and support a bitch and her kids after she hops off the cock carousel.
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>>129249493
>bunch of men on college campus
>THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE WE NEED GENDER EQUALITY
>number of men at college drastically drops
>THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE MEN NEED TO GO TO COLLEGE
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>>129253177
You can do it to man.
You just have to go out there and look. There are plenty of places looking for dedicated young dudes who want to learn the trade.
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>>129253422
GIB SHEKELS GOYIM!

GIB SHEKELS NOW!

SHREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>129252964
it was a sickle and hammer not sickle and a cross, deepshit

and fuck your (((socialism)))
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>>129249493

I try to learn as much as I can everyday but there's no way I'm going to labour camp when the jews call in the 50k of debt to be '''taught''' by some feminazi on a jewish curriculum only to find myself in the same bread line as some fresh off the boat nigger, vying for the favour of some roastie with broken dna and beat up brainlet cunt whilst living in the cuck shed that takes five sixths of my income.

I'll always wonder what might have been if the jews didn't place a target on my ass marked JUST but then I think of all the loneliness endured, all the pills swallowed and regurgitated. the bros with whom I shared more emotions and thoughts whose name I need not know. Sure, i'm broke, have less status than a nigger on the street, but in this fiat jew world that will probably collapse tomorrow at least I have my balls and the will to survive which I definitely wouldn't have if I chose the 'higher education' jew.
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>>129253046
economics

sofware systems
> 4 year degree costs 80k
>can earn 100k

HVAC
>year course certified 4k
>can earn 100k

seems pretty simple. Im ahead of someone who goes the comp sci route by 3 years, and 0 debt. after starting work as an HVAC tech and receiving a paycheck, THEN I can add epa certifications and additional courses as I want (and can afford) them to improve my earning potential and marketability
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>>129251014
My kids can kiss society goodbye...oh wait nevermind oh well RIP.
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>>129251008
Exquisite pasta lad
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>7 days left from knowing my university entrance exam results
>hopefully electronics and industrial automation

wish me luck anons
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>>129250920
>I'm learning a trade does that count?

NOPE, it doesn't. And here's why.

Women don't want "working class". They consider dating/marrying such men as "dating down". More women than ever are earning college degrees. If you don't have one, they'll view you as inferior. They'll always feel like they could do better.

They want men that they can take to social functions, and introduce to friends/colleagues, and impress everyone in the room. They don't want to take "Joe Carpenter" to that corporate luncheon, even if he owns his own local carpentry business and is pulling in six figures. They would rather take balding "Xavier Andrews" with his BA in Sociology and his $40K a year Social Worker job.

You MIGHT land a college educated woman as a working class man, but it won't last. Her biological clock will have convinced her to marry you and have kids, but deep down she'll never respect you. Eventually, you'll get divorced, and she'll take the kids and half your shit.

Your kids won't grow up to be taxpaying citizens. They'll have all sorts of mental problems. Your daughter will probably end up being a stripper or camming or some shit. She'll also be more likely to be a single mother, and thus the contract will be broken and the chances of the system crashing will increased.

You can't land a woman like this and keep her if you don't have a degree. I don't care what $100K+ a year trade you're working in and neither does she. If you're not college educated, high class women like this will always look down on you.
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>>129252410
>be the boss of some random /pol/ack
>be the boss of some random sjw gender studies trigglypuff tier dyke monstrosity

Pick one anon, suddenly the red pilled employee isn't such a bad shout
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>>129249493
How do I get a job after mass automation occurs without some sort of degree?
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>>129251014
>>129249493
>>129249957

There is someone so pathetic out there that they:

1. Find this chick attractive
2. Feel the need to secretly record her
3. Count down the days to the next convention
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men are intelligent enough to learn skills online, mostly for free.
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Oh hey it's one of these threads again. Please fuck off
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>>129253401
He's not in debt for the rest of his life and can always start his own company or find ways to make even more money when you owe 100 thousand dollars for your liberal arts to degree just to be screamed at about rape culture by some pink haired lesbian.
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>>129252850
>there are a a million of you sitting around who can't find jobs in their degrees and have to struggle by working at Starbucks, sending out resumes, and sweating their student loans
Fml, this is me. Where were you four years ago anon?
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>>129253820
>economics

Oh boy.

I actually studied economics at college. I really wish people would not throw that word out when describing the napkin math they used to justify their terrible life choices.

Imma show you why your wrong. Just gotta get my proof together.
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>>129254151
Good post.

Keep attaching those webms, friend.
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>>129254377
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College is a poor financial decision at this point. Leftism has made school worthless.

I'm doing financially better than a lot of my friends that went to college as a truck driver.
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>>129254251
do you not enjoy the qt?
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>>129249957
$9/hr $50+ tips/day full time starting at a tourist-oriented job in a shitty little town in the midwest.

"muh minimum wage"
Millennials just immediately go for whatever service jobs are available on the first page of any job search website.
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>>129249493
>this post
>that webm attached
I wonder who is the real degenerate here?
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>>129252850
I may be jobless but at least I can say for the rest of my life, even if I'm homeless. I have a chemical engineering degree and you don't. You can't buy that kind of validation anon
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american college is a scam, quality went to dogshit due to affirmative action, appeasing to low-IQ shits
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>men learning useful skills and taking up jobs instead of getting into debt for an art degree

>this is bad

kys
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>>129254151
yeah dont even try it lol
women DO want working class. they only think they want cerebral metrosexual nu-males because liberal media is telling them that. but that doesn't rock their boat.
show up in jeans and your work belt and see what happens to women. Im not anything great to look at, but its the handyman thing I guess. I have phone numbers left on my truck constantly
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>>129253820
Good to hear m8, I should be working in the field around March
I'll also graduate with an EPA cert, didn't know that was that big of a deal
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>>129249493
These losers make it even easier for white men to climb the dominance hierarchy. Let these faggots throw their futures away.
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>>129254151
Blue collar jobs will be the new white collar jobs once people figure it out.
>muh bf lost his 60k/year coding job
>looking for a man with a job to satisfy my drying up ovaries
>I'm an electrician
>eew blue collar no thanks
>I make 100k a year with a job that will always be in demand
>I just ovulated, creampie me now
>eew opportunist slut no thanks
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>>129253401
>youre a loser if you want a stable job helping people out in your community making decent money that you dont have to become a stressed out atomized rootless cosmopolitan to enjoy
1% of people make more than that
fuck off kike
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>>129251014
>If you DON'T continue the cycle, the SYSTEM will CRASH.

good
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>>129253401

That may not sound like a ton, but working a 40 hour week (with 2 weeks of unpaid vacation), it's about 55 grand a year. That's enough for a single guy to live a pretty nice life outside of commiefornia or the east coast, if you aren't terribad with money. tradesmen often work overtime as well

I'm went the college route and became a mechanical engineer, but my lab techs(most of whom didn't go to a 4 year institution) do much better money wise than most people with buisiness or psych or liberal arts degrees. Their pay/benefits is on par with teachers in our state (Michigan).
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>>129254559
>I have a chemical engineering -degree-
>cant buy that kind of validation
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>>129249493
>Attract a wife and start a family buried in debt

Good one.
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>>129254151
>looking for women who want to play the social game

you are all idiots
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>>129254750
coding jobs are literally modern day coal mines. No originality, just rote work day after day for your kike boss. Don't know why blue-collars are jealous of people like this. Code-monkeys are literally the niggers of the educated world. any self respecting smart person would choose academia/science instead.
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Can you just share your creepshots folder already plz OP

I've asked for months
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>>129254940
>can't buy
I didn't buy it anon. I'm a poorfag so my school bought it for me.
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>>129249493
This has been going on for a long time, but it's been dismissed as meninism, MRA bullshit, etc, etc.

Women also have been making more than men (absolute [excluding billionaires], not per capita or by particular job) for over a decade, too.
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>>129249493
>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros", instead of going to college, climbing the corporate ladder, and securing an income that will allow them to buy a home in order to become "marriage material", attract a wife, and start a family.
OOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
VEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>129249493
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>>129249493
>going to college
>climbing the corporate ladder
Jesus christ, shill harder faggot
If you want to climb the corporate ladder, fuck college, make connections instead
Learned that one the hard way, I don't like it but if corporate ladder is your goal then that's how
t. top of class, smoked by people with no experience or qualifications who went out and networked instead
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>>129250918
Productivity has steadily gone up, even as workforce participation, wages, and segregated work places have gone down.
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>>129254377
Not YOUR kind of economics dipshit
the personal checkbook and bank balance kind

dont forget to figure in how many more years I can be saving my extra disposable income while a college grad is still paying off student debt.

>have a rolling eyes emoticon
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>>129254151
right.... because a man with a trade who makes 100 000 plus a year with a comfortable life is not attractive to a woman.
be a provider and look your best, just because your a carpenter or a electrician or a mechanic doesn't mean you have to be lazy, dirty, fat, dirty clothes, unkept etc.
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>>129254679
Only a faggot would disregard his fellow man so callously. You share your identity with these men. We're social creatures and we NEED a shared identity. Only a psychopath would step outside of that identity and try to profit off the misfortunes of those staying. In the long run anything that is bad for a large portion of those in your group, it's going to be bad for you too. And you do have a group, it'd be ridiculous to say otherwise. All of humanity is split into competing groups. If you somehow manage to get an entire group to stand out of that system, they will all end up being run over by those who stay loyal. That is of course exactly what is happening to the west, but there are still half a billion of us. It's not too late to abandon nihilism and correct our course. It's not too late to adopt white identity and to reach for greatness once more.
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>Join Army (2 year contracts available with bonuses)

>Get out with honorable discharge

>Use GI Bill and let the government pay your way for the next four years plus pay you to go full time.
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>>129254554
It's an israeli posting an proxy of america forever. remember to sage
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>>129255508
>be army shill
>think someone will fall for le join le army meme and pay for your college
>get $0.02 deposited into your paypal.
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>>129255136
Do you have the figures that break it down? I'm interested.
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>>129253290
...and so is your ringpiece, Communist sodomite.
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>>129249493

Ohhhh veeeeey our plan is working!
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>>129255326
and?
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>>129254151
It honestly depends on how you portray yourself. I knew a guy who worked landscaping and security 80 hrs a week and was happily married to an attractive doctor.

If you want to do something like that you have to be articulate, knowledgeable and well spoken like this guy was. Not some meathead "hurrr muh dick is bigger b/c trades" type person like a lot of blue collar people are
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>>129249957
>what is roomates
>what is living in vehicle near 24 hour gym or friend's parking lot or "collectivist commune"
Compromise for a few years to buy property. Uproot to a better place.
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>>129254785
what ?
1% of people make more than 30$ an hour?
The manager of target makes more than that.
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I work in meat processing 27/hr started doing it right out of highschool.

Suck my dick college fags.
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education in america is a business and a big scam too.
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>>129249493
Not hard to figure out....femenism & emasculated men are not really very enticing to reasonable men......

Academia has sold its soul to the devil & now they must deal with the consequences......

fuck those idiots
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>>129251912
Yeah, back in high school when I heard the entry wage for even people with a business degree was around $12-14 in my region I said fuck waiting 4 years and being in debt, I'll just go take my metal shop high school experience down and get an entry-level machining job.

What'ya know, four years later and people I know who went to uni are struggling with debt and soulless excel sheet jobs for entry level pay while I'm making $19/hour and building things, getting home by 4:00pm, and work for a family-owned company that's talking about paying for me to go to night classes to have another backup for the CNC mills since the lead over in that area is gonna be retiring in the next few years.

I fucking love my job and co-workers. We even get free zoo memberships and Christmas bonuses of about 7% our yearly wage. Benefits are great, OT is available if you want it, discount Costco membership; shit in general is pretty great.

I don't know how people get scammed by the University Jew so hard. Working class, mid-western America is comfy as hell. I'm looking around for my first home, thinking I'll actually go into the market in mid-fall since we've got pockets of new construction going up so that'll bring in some price competition.

Dunno what I'm gonna do with the space though to be honest. Might just let a NEET artist bro live with me so long as he does some chores.
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>>129255421
>right.... because a man with a trade who makes 100 000 plus a year with a comfortable life is not attractive to a woman.

>'Marrying Down' Costs Educated Women $25K a Year
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/marrying-down-costs-educated-women-25k-a-year/433050/

>More Women Are 'Marrying Down'
http://jezebel.com/more-women-are-marrying-down-1522117918

>These women can't find enough marriageable men

>Overall, men are not only earning less than they used to, but they're failing to enroll in colleges at the same rate as their female counterparts. The result is that there are only 85 men for every 100 women who are 25 to 35 years old and who are college educated.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/these-women-cant-find-enough-marriageable-men/

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You'll only be attractive until after the kids arrive. Women don't want to "marry down". It is a secret sign of defeat and shame to them. They will always be dreaming of being with an educated man who they will view as being "on their level".
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>>129253401
Plumbers hereake $45+ how much do you make?
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>>129256242
Archive please

>https://theatlantic com/politics/archive/2015/10/marrying-down-costs-educated-women-25k-a-year/433050
https://archive.is/D36Mt
>http://jezebel com/more-women-are-marrying-down-1522117918
https://archive.is/dDkj2
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>>129250516
You mean electrician. An electrical engineer position requires a degree in electrical engineering... From not a trade school.
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>>129249493
college is for women
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>>129252410
unless your boss is also redpilled ;^)
and gives you a raise when you espouse
your views to him
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>>129254151
Most women I know find men that are handy masculine and they like that you can fix the house and make it look pretty.
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>>129254537
Long hauler fellow brother!
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>>129249493
College is a trap and a meme at this point. It was good once upon a time but not now. Tried college once, was a total sjw feminist shit show with mandatory brainwashing session AKA diversity classes. Bailed and went to trade school. There it was either manly men or chill as fuck women. You could have made racist/sexist jokes and comments without being lynched or expelled. Learned lots of useful and applicable skills that I can take anywhere and the money is super good. Had an ex military drill sarge that taught the shop class and it was enjoyable, comprehensive too, was surprised more people aren't doing trade skills.
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>>129256484
that exact thing happened to my buddy, just 100% banter with his boss and coworkers all day
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>>129249493
Men goes to college to get a degree.
Women goes to college to find a well-educated competetive man.
Both end up disappointed.

Men realize college might not be for them. Gets a job instead.
Women scream even louder on the college courtyard as their genes force them to do anything for attention in a female environment.
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>>129254151
I'm in trade school because I want to be able to make enough money to live alone comfortably, support myself and my hobbies and some solo travel. I want to get married or have kids, I don't give a fuck what women think of my career choice or how much I elevate their social status.

If a woman doesn't want a hardworking, skilled, virtuous man simply because his career doesn't elevate her social status, she deserves for her cunt to dry up and for her to die alone.

I'm going to school for welding, machining, CNC operation, CAD, and whatever other industrial certifications I can get from my local trade school. I'm gonna live in comfort, debt free, regardless of whether or not a woman thinks that I elevate her social status by association.
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>>129249493
Get back in the kitchen sweetheart not everything is men's fault
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>>129255143

wat do if the workslaves refuse to work and all the niggers you bring in only accelerate kike rule downfall

JESSSAAAASSSSSSS NAAAAAAAHHHH
heheh, get fucked judenpack
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Fifty five mortgage free.
Started bricklaying apprenticeship at fifteen.
Built first own home at twenty one.
Fuck being a student.
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The only winning move is not to play.
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>>129249493
>>129249957
Your typical nu male weeaboo
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>>129249493
Told y'all men were smarter than women.
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>>129249493

Lol. This post reeks of bitter femininity. I'm actually doing very well financially, have loads of free time for myself, and would NEVER consider adopting the leech known as Western Woman as a wife. Maybe if you all stopped acting like brassy sluts and obnoxious bitches there would be fewer misogynists like me.
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>>129256541

Yes. Women do like men who are handy and can fix things. But, is that all they want in a man? No. If that was the case, every apartment building superintendent would be married to a total babe.
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>>129254151
>women
>once

How much will a good robowaifu cost in the future? 250k?
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>>129251014
>If you DON'T continue the cycle, the SYSTEM will CRASH.
Good
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>>129249493
wtf? i love men now?
>men in a MAGA hat
FUCKING BASED MEN
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>>129249493
I'm blue collar, make 75k/year working "full time" but really average around 30 hours a week, with a company vehicle.
I probably leave 20-30k on the table in overtime every year solely because I don't give a shit to work it.
Also completing my BSME next year, paid by my employer (Took forever tho).
I'll probably just stay a technician cuz dat cubicle life just ain't for me.
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>>129256171
>$19/hr
Poorfag thinks he's top shit
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>>129249493
>“One woman once told me that she could use statistics to determine how many of my friends were rapists.”

Oh lol this shit made my day
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go to community college goys, its 80% homework and 20% group therapy sessions where you get to do all the work for women that major in nursing
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Eh, these women will have to adapt. Maybe they'll drop their shitty sense of entitlement along the way.
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22 years old and made 55k last year, didn't go to college trade meme is best meme
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>>129255143
>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros", instead of going to college, climbing the corporate ladder, and securing an income that will allow them to buy a home in order to become "marriage material", attract a wife, and start a family.
nice
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>>129251014
>If you DON'T continue the cycle, the SYSTEM will CRASH. If that happens, you can kiss society GOODBYE.

I hope so
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>>129251014
eh, fuck making new white slaves for the kikes to rape and murder and eat
i'd rather spend my time organizing packs of wild niggers to rape murder and eat kikes
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>>129249739
>save money
get a fucking load of this guy!!! save money he says! welcome to the biggest scam the jews did ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUyWmmWtcFM&feature=youtu.be&t=1h3m19s
you can't save money you dumb faggot! it's going to take more money to buy the same shit next year. how the fuck you gonna save for something when the prices double every year?
>interest rates @ .01
>houses go up 10-25% a year EASY (mine has gone up 300% in six years)
>2% inflation (jew just taking your money)
>wages stagnant as fuck
wow i feel so much privilege.
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>>129252850
>And robots are never going to be able to drive to your house, wade through your kids and cats to get to your damp basement, down your steep steps, and behind your christmas decorations to your furnace and figure out why its coming on but you aren't getting heat.
Watch me.

Disclaimer: I am in no way a robot. I honestly swear that I am not an artificially intelligent robot with the intention of replacing humanity. Why would I be lying to you? Robots can't lie. Which I am not. A robot that is.
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So "marrying down" is marrying someone with fewer paper diplomas.

>Here's the real kick in the pants, though: Just because women are more educated doesn't mean they're making more dough. (You knew there was a catch, didn't you.) According to Pew: "Only 39% of newlywed women who married a spouse with less education out-earned their husband, and a majority of them (58%) made less than their husband."

Oh...
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>>129256989
This is me. I got burned from a girl and I'm training to be an ATP pilot topping at 300k with an internationally applicable job. I got all kinds of crazy shit i want to invent, and with my income and God's will (if He wills it) I'll have the resources to create things until i die. Or have kids. Or both! Hopefully both, i want to raise a family of engineers.
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>>129249493

I just got my last grade for the semester in Blueprint Reading II/GD&T, it was an A, had to really work for this one.

So far the classes I have taken.

Blueprint Reading I
Blueprint Reading II
Algebra
Machine Practice and Theory
Machining Practice I
Machining Practice II
Intro to Engineering and Technology
Numerical Control and Cam Lathe
Numerical Control and Cam Mill

I'm doing this for myself though, not to go and beg for a job that will pay me minimum wage, they can fuck right off with that shit. I refuse nightshift as well and weekends. No rush really.

All of them are A's, one I had to do extra credit work to get there.

BTW I didn't even fucking pay for this, this state has something called a bog fee waiver and if you aren't making bank or your parents arent, it is paid for. I just paid for parking permit and books. Grand total for everything was under 2grrand so I dont know how students want like 30k for school lol.
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>>129249493
then how about you fix divorce laws then? dump the duluth model, destroy vawa legislation and return authority to mens hands forevermore...

But you wont do that will you, you feminazi twunt waffle cunt.

Im too busy watching the world burn bitch fuck you.
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>>129251912
Most employers look for a degree. Having a degree helps you get your foot in the door, especially if it's a specialized field. You're right that connections can certainly help.
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>>129251014
>societal social contract
generational theft? fuck off faggot. the generations before us had their cake and ate it too. fuck their contract.
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>>129252410
you're not going to be the boss of any peo/pol/ faggot, you're going to be "boss" (honorary title only, your shithole will run you) of niggers, landwhales, coalburners, and other degenerates
no self respecting /pol/ would support a commie corporate scene
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>>129252058
Imagine being dumb enough to believe this
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>>129254048
Good luck anon
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>>129252850

Im finishing an ECE degree (engineering). You are correct.
STEM degrees are absolutely fucking ruthless. The harder ones are, in theory, only 5 years but in reality many people spend an average of 8 years concluding it. In the end you learned so much fucking useless (and hard to learn) shit that not only you sacrificed almost a decade of your life, you also are not even remotely prepared for the job market. Any technician is a fucking wizard of knowledge of a certain field compared to a fucking engineer.

Its fucking hell!!!
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>>129257419
>meanwhile this anon goes to the store to by a loaf of bread for 12.83 canadian dollars
eeeeeeeeehehehe
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>>129249493
>“If you don’t want to go to college you can go to a trade school and come away with something and not be on the hook for $150,000,” said 28-year-old Adam Stark, who dropped out of college and now is thriving in the music business in Denver.
>Stark, 28, studied computer science for a year and a half before leaving Metro State University to study on his own. Now a software engineer for a music company in Denver, Stark also DJs at some of the area’s most notable nightclubs.
>“While these dropouts imagine they can succeed without a degree, successful start-ups are rare.”
These kike tears are delicious
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>>129251014
I like masturbating to hentai more than I like modern civilization. Maybe if I had some reason to contribute I'd think about it, but so far I haven't met a woman that didn't make me contemplate a murder suicide.

Sure, I am most likely the problem, but telling how much everyone who isn't me will suffer isn't going to get me to care when I already don't.
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>>129252410
More likely you'll get sued for discrimination and lose your rep, income and family when you fail to hire a trigender dragonkin quadriunisexual
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>>129252964
I shunned college and make more than the majority of college grads working for myself as an independent contractor (killer for hire)
I advocate for anything right of center, in truth I am an imperial absolutist, and Trump is who I have chosen as God Emperor to bring man out of this darkness.
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>>129249493
nice rapey webm cis bigot
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>>129254246
Simple, you don't.
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>>129249493
>Stop neglecting your responsibilities!

You first, bitch.
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>>129249493
>saying no to college
It's increasingly expensive and it doesn't guarantee a high paying job like it used to. Not everyone has the luxury of an affirmative action scholarship and a welfare check waiting for them on the other end of a sociology degree.
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>>129254151
This seems to stem from a personal place. You ok anon?
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>>129251912

Luck will always run out one day, even for those who know the right people. If that happens you are left to fend for your own. Happened to many guys I know, so it's good to have some form of paperwork that shows you tried, even better if its STEM or like an engineering trade, hard to fake your way through daily training where your body has to physically be there.
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>>129255508
>G.I Bill
Does literally the exact same thing as the Pell Grant faggot.
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>>129249493
>Men see college as too expensive for its value
>Women go to college and expect someone else to pay for it

rly gets the neurons firing
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>>129257305
More of her pls. Where do you get the webms from?
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>>129254251
I object to your first item.
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>>129249493
>One woman once told me that she could use statistics to determine how many of my friends were rapists.”

Jokes on you, I have no friends.
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>>129249739
unless its a student loan in exchange for an engineering degree
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>>129259039
>it doesn't guarantee a high paying job like it used to
You mean, you actually have to try? And not expect a job to be handed to you, since you feel entitled after you get a degree.
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I got a masters degree in cyber security I can't get a fucking job college is useless.
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>>129254151
why would i want a degenerate vapid college roastie? literally the primary enemy in line after the jew himself
i hope every college roastie gets their toll paid, bunch of coalburning grown children whores all
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Only 56 percent of students graduate college in 6 years. Is it worth the risk?
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>>129249493
It's because literally all jobs will be automated in 10 years. Not worth going into debt.
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>>129252261
this guy don't want competition.
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>>129254151
This is sadly true. Perception matters more to actual facts. Impovershed faggot with a basketweaving degree is more prestigious than the self-made tradesman with a successful business and money.

HOWEVER, all is not lost. It just means you shouldn't be going for college-educated women. College-educated women are fucking shit. They are indoctrinated, they come with the baggage of tens of thousands of dollars in student debt, and they want to work their bullshit office jobs instead of having children.

Fuck college-educated women. They made their choices. the vast majority of the country doesn't go to college anyway. And you don't NEED a college-educated woman. You need a conservative woman who wants to maybe work a side job and just have a bunch of kids with you.
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>>129251014
No. It's your responsibility to have white childen but DON'T pay taxes or work. Be like Varg. I know you lot hate him, but this is what he gets right. Live in a way that allows you to be as autonomous as possible from society so you're shielded from it when it inevitably collapses. DON'T pay into the system that wants you annihilated.
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>>129249493
About a year and a half from finishing my degree.

I'm really tempted to just drop out, watch porn, play vista, work out, and read books. Seems like a great way to live and not contribute to a shit system
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>>129255326
So has the rise of automation, you taffer.
That shit is the same argument employed by unionists and socialists to justify shit like a $15/hr min wage. "B-but we do so much, these days!"
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College is not worth unless you're a minority or go into the military to get a full ride.

>Just do good in school

Won't get you a full ride anywhere worth your time if you're a white guy, even if you're an animal shelter volunteering 4.0 AP GPA quarterback.
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>>129249493
>entire generation

I think that's quite an overstatement. Most normies are getting married and having children. You're really referring to a very small segment of the Gen Y male population.
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>>129252714
no that guy is full of shit. electrical engineer is not the same as an electrician
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>>129251111
After having gone through it all I have this advice: only go if you know what you want to do. Make sure you know the job specifically, and consider ways to pad your resume starting day one. Go to class and do your shit - ignore petty politics, pick your battles with professors, and fucking study.
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>>129258661
Same here.
I'm finally finishing this bullshit after SIX (6) fucking years because there's no way in hell my tiny ass brain could handle more than 4 courses a semester.
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>>129259102
Anon isn't making a lot of sense. If it's based a personal experience, he lost her for other reasons. Or she was brainwashed.

The only argument I can think of is that she'll wonder if she could have gotten a guy with a degree who makes *even more* money. When it comes to infidelity, guys tend to go wide while women go up. But this is an edge case that's missing the main picture.
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>Not realizing that we're going to trade schools and/or being entrepreneurs instead


OP is a faggot
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>>129257305
>Apartment super

Nigger I'm talking tradesman not some jumped up janitor.

My coworkers that aren't addicts have some pretty decent wives.
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>>129252410
t. reddit
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>>129249493
>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros", instead of going to college, climbing the corporate ladder, and securing an income that will allow them to buy a home in order to become "marriage material", attract a wife, and start a family.

Did you not read your own fucking post? They're going to trade school or just saving their money instead.
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>>129249493
Whoever the fucking loser is in this webm who filmed this gross ass the that woman.
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>>129259473
What exactly did you learn in that degree?

Do you know how to keep my cyber secure?
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>>129259761
I got 75% tuition paid for law school in a top 50 school. Graduated undergrad with a 3.7, only 160 LSAT, but my resume was loaded with shit. If you can show you're a leader, schools will want you.
>>
I blame videogames. No one who has achieved truly great success is a gamer
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>>129249493

>universities go bankrupt as minorities and women who earn less make up the bulk of their graduates

what business attacks its best customers?
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>>129257419

Better making money and being able to use it then having it go to your 90k worth of loans you gook
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>>129249493
At current prices college is a scam unless you can go for free.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/06/09/is_college_worth_it_increasing_numbers_say_no_134137.html
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>>129249493
>>129249957
>that guy in the bike shorts
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>>129257583
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>129259625
Major/school?
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>>129260267
>meanwhile there are people making more than neurosurgeons in donations alone by streaming a children's card game
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>>129259761

All the white guys I know in college are super duper smart and are waiting to transfer out to UCLA. Many of them are pelgrants/bog fee waivers so they barely paid anything.

But man I have to say this, white people are stupidly smart. I can see why employers will never hire them because they become preoccupied with stuff that has nothing to do with the class. It's almost as if they are too smart for the class or even a job, they get bored with it and start wondering off, but then they will come back for the exam and beast it.

Still though, you will never see these guys working because they are bluepilled.
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>>129258252
maybe compsci? engineer in something cool?
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>>129249493
Fuck college! I went to trade school twice, and pulled 220k contracting last year. Or spend 220k and get a masters in English....and make 50k lol!
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>>129254151
>If you're not college educated, high class women like this will always look down on you.
This sort of thing really amuses me, women can look down all they please, but there's nearly two orders of magnitude more men than women at the ~140 IQ level, we're the ones truly looking down.
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>>129258200
It's interesting that you bring that up, most of the women I know would be considered losers if they were men. Here's a rundown of the average millennial woman:
>degree in something useless
>working a low skill job
>overweight
>alcoholic
>1 bedroom apartment or rooming with several other women in similar straits
>boyfriend/fuck buddy that doesn't give a fuck about them
>consumes media like HBO's "Girls" which glorifies this lifestyle

Honestly the life of the average twentysomething woman is just as pathetic as the NEETs over on /r9k/, it's just that society coddles them and pretends that they're doing well in life. You want to talk about men being in a state of perpetual adolescence? Most of the women around us still think they're 18 and that the reason they're still eating Ramen while hungover is because they're in a "transitional period" and any day now they'll get an offer to work some high paying job for 30 hours a week in a nice loft downtown or barring that Mr. Six (six foot, six pack, six figure salary) will show up looking to marry them for their amazing personality.
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>>129249957
>talking to a black dude
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>129259473
College should incorporate business into every other subject so that anyone can graduate and have the education to start a business in their particular area of study if they want.
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>>129249957
>>129249493
>>129251700
shit like this just makes me hate women more and more
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>>129259883

Do you like the IT classes? It was quite funny during my course since my skills were oriented to C++/Delphi/VHDL and all of a sudden you need to do your shit in Java (which is very useful I reckon) but then you have like 5 courses that semester and all you have time for is study the communication protocols and program like a retard on the go, googling stack overflow forums.

In the most dedicated programming course about C we learned to make from scratch FIFO stacks and dictionaries with iterators on .h files. We didnt even learn to fucking form or use a simple class lool. Also what is #include <vector>? God save Derek Banas the youtuber.

What a pile of bullshit man!
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>>129249493
My mind is so fucked. At first I was expecting a turd to start protruding against her pants, then the dudes micro dick completely filled my gaze
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>>129249493
>going to college
done
>climbing the corporate ladder
doin it
>securing an income
done
>become marriage material
ez
>attract a wife
fuck off and die
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>>129249493
lol women are scared as they see themselves becoming irrelevant

sure hope those wymyn's studies degrees can carry your futures because you ain't gettin no sugar daddies anymore!
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>>129259329
Statistically that means there's a 100 chance that you're a rapist anon
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>>129249493
What a depressing butt.
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>>129253519
Is that rape man?
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>>129259143
It really doesn't
Pell grant is two lump sums divided between your semesters
GI Bill pays for your tuition, gives you $1000 every academic year for books and pays you a stipend that is determined by where you go to school.
The last two are completely separate from your tuition and do not get cut short because of it
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>tfw got cancer but recovered and had to take a year out of college so get 250 European Dollery Doos a week in neet bux, safe in the knowledge that ill be returning to college next January.
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>>129251553
>where is it now
I found it just fine
You can fuck off though, we're full
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>>129251008
and this is why we men are starting to hate women, kys, I'll believe it when I see it, it won't happen and if it does it will be just as if they were straight women are golddiggers c'mon now
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>>129254353
>100 thousand dollars
>liberal arts degree
so either you're 12 and have no idea how the whole college thing works
or you're some salty 40-something who couldn't pass a single class
either way you're a faggot
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>>129252410
>>129254151
>Trying to divide /pol/ based on what careers they do or don't pursue.

Stupidest form of infighting I have seen on this board. I'm studying criminology focusing on forensic science, but why should I hate anybody here that doesn't do college and does something like a trsde instead? More successful conservatives are good. It's not like they're doing gay BDSM porn or sucking cock at the back of a gas station for a living.

Also fuck college women. Why would hold them as a standard for being a suitable marriage partner? That's stupid. They're being built to be the antithesis of /pol/. I ain't putting a ring on them and as a rule neither should any of you.
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>>129249493
how many days will you post this thread?

>250 replies

ok I need to stop coming to this board, bunch of fucking newfaggots responding to bait that is posted literally every day
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>>129253519
You've given me a bunch of hope, I appreciate it. I have been looking to be an electrician after I tried out college and it didn't fit. Got any tips other than just going out and looking? Does being an electrician require trade school?
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>>129254151
So just lie and say you do
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>>129259425
Millennials were sold on the promise that they would get a degree in something they were passionate about and that there would be employers waiting to hire them on graduation. Obviously that's absurd, but hindsight is 20/20.

Incidentally I do have the whole house/wife/job combo, but I also have friends from college who I have over at least once a week and it's like they're living in a different world. It's just straight up bizarre to talk with your best friends about how you're planning to have a kid soon and then have them start comparing the managers at the fast food joints they're working in.
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cali cis-male here...
started working at 15.
got my high school diploma at 17
bought a house at 25.

most of the stuff taught at college is a waste of time and money.

IF U DON'T USE WHAT U KNOW
THEN WHAT U KNOW IS WORTHLESS
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>>129253290
Sure, let's try socialism again. I mean, why not, right? It's only killed a hundred million of its own citizens. I'm sure we'll get it right this time. Can't make an omelette without breaking a few million eggs, right? (I'd bring up Venezuela, but I think they've officially achieved "not true socialism" status.)
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>>129260740
Never thought of it that way but pretty true.
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>>129249493
>Stop neglecting your responsibilities!

Why not go to niggers, whore?
They're all saints opressed by whitey, right?

Oh, wait, they're AIDS-ridden rapist freeloaders.

Well, you made your biocunt bed, now you sleep in it, biocunt.
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>>129261247

lucky cunt
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Why go to college when I have a dope ass job as a lineman?
I'm more important to society than about 98% of other occupations and the job satisfaction is far none and I get paid $43/hr and that's just for 4 days of work. Plus I'm technically a government employee since my utility is held by my county.
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>>129249493
shut the fuck up roastie, they make a good point
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>>129253331
Don't know if you're paying attention, but the (((bankers))) will never agree to college loan forgiveness.
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>>129259761
>Won't get you a full ride anywhere worth your time if you're a white guy
this is a bullshit meme
i wasn't a valedictorian and i got more scholarships than i could use
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>>129255326
>what are two other pillars of productivity
>capital
>technology
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>TFW you dont live in a shithole
>TFW there isnt even a single degree mill
>TFW 1/5 acceptance rate so weaklings are weed out
>TFW University degree(real one) will land you a job with respectable wage
>TFW University is free

I cant even fathom how fucked up america is compared to Finland
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>>129249493
>going to college, climbing the corporate ladder, and securing an income that will allow them to buy a home in order to become "marriage material", attract a wife, and start a family.
>slave away at school for 5 years, then kiss the asses in the upper management until you make enough money to pay off your 35 year old used up wife's student loans and have her pop out a couple of autistic children
Wow, so this is power of being a real man.
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>>129261851
And yet statistically I have better job security than you

>california
>"own house"

You mean you took out a loan
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>>129251809

You should go to the Philippines maan.
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>>129258252
Tell your parents all of that and keep telling them until they accept it. Remind them that some people just aren't cut out for college and there is literally nothing wrong with trades, shit ain't a conciliation prize.
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>>129262506
You see college is expensive because everyone is told to go. Rich, poor are all told if they don't go they will fuck up their lives. So the college's lower standards and take anybody because muh shekels.
Then they claim because of high demand they can raise the price per credit hour.
College should be for people who actually need it.
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>>129249493
Colleges are a ripoff unless you were born rich. Then it's awesome for the Frat house parties.
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>>129249493
Anyone else remember when this country was ran by men who self educated themselves and only learned what they needed to do their jobs? or those guys who with zero college education or even the slightest inclination towards even having a business degree managed to start up companies and become self made success? Now does anyone else remember any woman who did the same thing cause I sure as hell don't
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>>129249493
>"marriage material", attract a wife
If women won't accept me for who I am, then I don't need them
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>>129253331
This goy gets it it's a bubble mah nigs ride the wave and buy the dip
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it doesnt matter if lots of people go to college

you go cause having a piece of paper > not having a piece of paper
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>>129250915
what is your pic about?
>>
Post-secondary guide for men:

>only go to uni for a bachelors if you're going to do STEM or maybe finance
>if you're not going to do STEM you should be going for a phd in whatever bullshit so you can then teach your bullshit to foolish kids
>if you're not going to do either of those, learn a trade either in trade school or straight in to apprentice situation

You're a sucker if you pay for anything else.
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>>129258868
This. It either fixes itself or it burns.
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Making 25/hr and no degrees. I sure as fuck wont go now with colleges becoming communist brainwashing
>get a job as dishwasher at 18
>become cook for a few years
>it's a physical labor job
>eventually sign up for labor job with a navy contractor
25/hr to watch welders to be sure they dont catch shit (or other people) on fire
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>>129257305
>those thighs
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I went to a trade school and got welding certification because my grandpa pressured me to do it. He kept telling me that you don't do what you love for a living you find what people need then do that.
i figured since it was 6K I'd have it payed off in a few months of work and I'd always have it to fall back on later.
I landed my first job at a metal fabrication shop that specialized in odd shit that nobody could get anywhere else, things like 12mm or larger diameter machine shafts and cast iron machining. After only two years i was already making more per hour then all of my college friends. two years after that most of them are working for me to pay off their college loans. Mean while I'm the only one who owns a home and has retirement fund.
The best part is i do nothing with my free time and money but buy stupid shit like PC parts and watch porn after work all day.
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>>129263288
It really speaks wonders about the state of women today or perhaps about the female gender in general that a man has to become marriage material through hard work and personal development while a woman is "perfect the way she is".
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>>129261024
>>129261587
100% sensible replies
keep your money anons. don't let some succubi take it from you to waste it.
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>>129251014
What if I unironically want it to crash, Schlomo? Checkmate.
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>>129251008
And then their kind will extinct and women will be what they were for the last centuries.
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>>129249493
>recording that ass

Such piss poor taste in a shitty ass.
Not every ass in tight pants is worth looking at.
That's a shitty ass.
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>>129264187
Because they have a trump card, their reproductive systems. Because they are the only things that can produce human life they know they'll always be needed and have no reason to do shit to be considered useful human being other then spread their legs.
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>>129249493
>An entire generation

Yep it's literally every male there are no men in college at all.

Fuck you.
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>>129260740

lol cuck

>md, in pathology residency program
>getting paid 100k in a starting hospital job
>120 lbs, 5'7
>ur not wrong
>2 bedroom and with a tranny
>don't want an inconvenience to get in the way of career
>hbo is for feminists and niggers
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>>129261811
I dont know what its like in burgerland but it does here. 4 years, each year youre allowed 8 weeks to complete the course and its pretty basic. If you can do math and understand basic physics youll fly through it. I have yet to spend more then 4 weeks finishing the course. One thing I would recommend though is to find a reason to enjoy it, think of a way you can use your training to complete a task that you actually want to see through. If you just jump in and take whatever comes you may end up pulling lumex through new houses for a while and that shit is brain numbing once you get the hang of it. I got a good opportunity starting off with a crane tech who taught me controls, I got to climb stupid high cranes and learn all the niche stuff nobody thinks of needing to know but lowkey makes the world go round. Now im in automation and programming, huge opportunity if you have drive. You can do it man, the industry needs young blood whos passionate about learning and growing.
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>>129264488
its a dude, fag
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>>129264672
Yeah I get the biological aspects of it but I feel like in the past there was more pressure to at least perform those basic reproductive functions well as in don't become a single mom, don't wait until your 40s to have kids, etc. Now all a woman needs to do is look good and even that seems like too much of a hassle when you consider all the fat positive bullshit.
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>>129258285

why are you in algebra in college i took algebra in middle school and freshman year
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>>129249493
>“You definitely get the sense you are the problem,”

If women want to edge out men into decent trades while they build debt for a useless field, becoming even LESS desirable, i say let them.

I hope it causes a whole blue collar boom at the same time, isolating shit universities and their shit students.
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>>129257419
average white man arent the ones who are going to be getting the managerial do-nothing jobs that pay significantly higher
they will be going to women minorities and chads with almost no exceptions in this generation
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>>129264187
All across recorded history, in literature of whatever century, you'll only hear the same criticism written and repeated -- it has nothing to do with current times.
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>>129265747
College Algebra is a pretty common 101 math course, famalama.
I took it same time you did.
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>>129251014
Get the fuck out of my country, kike.
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>>129249493
went to trade school from 16-18, graduated with diploma and AA and now I'm 21 and making $30/hr with annual raises why my friends work at mcdonalds for $10

only retards go to college
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>>129250676
Slag Spice
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>>129258225
why the hell would this automatable job pay 300k
its amazing how many "going to be making" posts i see on this website
how can you end up here yet still be so naive
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>>129251986
you sound like you dont even try in life...good because fuck you. if you dont want to be useful then you might as well kys
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>>129252410
well put
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>>129255508
>free college
>just sign up to shower with other dudes and kill kids
whatever you say, Mr. Mercenary!
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>>129266337
>Kill Kids

Masterbating term aquired
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>>129266337
>just sign up to shower with other dudes and kill kids

You have peaked my interest, tell me more.
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>>129266505
fuck off feminazi
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>>129261811
I went to trade school for welding and got into an apprenticeship (but I got in instantly because I am AWS certified). The important part is that you apply to any and all apprenticeships that you have interest in because they have long wait lists.

My apprenticeship might be different but the only skill you "need" is reading a tape measure well, if you explain you're brand new people will give you slack and teach you everything you need to know while you're getting paid for it. However if you don't pick it up fast expect to be laid off and replaced with Juan who lives 5 people to a closet.
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>>129266761
TERK ER JERBS
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>>129249493
Going to university used to guarantee you a fruitful and financially fulfilling career but now in these uncertain and tumultuous times I don't blame them, as a matter of fact I respect people who reject college much more than those who don't.
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>>129249493
We will make more and have less debt. I saw this stupid snapchat article the other day complaining that women have more student debt like it was proof of sexism. It's really funny because 1) they do it to themselves and 2) it means that men are getting less loans which according to their logic should mean men are discriminated against. I feel like I'm not even saying it sarcastically any more. Liberals are retarded
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>>129266761
Get your ASME (section 9) certification. The number of people applying for pressure vessel welding is next to nothing and the demand is for ASME certified welders is non-stop, i got call from just about every damn oil company in the states when i posted i was looking for a job in that field. Some will even offer to cover moving expenses if you need to go to a different state to work.
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>>129251014
> People wont have kids because wages are low and housing is expensive
> this is due to "oversupply"
> the solution is to bring in more immigrants
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>>129254377
Yeah but HVAC man is getting paid for his work and you're allegedly doing economics >for free on a kawaii Somalian child soldier appreciation imageboard
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