They are right - we need a fucking EU army

>>129245119
why does Juncker look exactly like Hollande?

are they all Jewish clones from Venus sent to rule the EU?

Do the countries in the EU not have their own respective militaries?

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>MFW Europe is calling for the establishment of a 4th Reich

>>129245119
Doesn't NATO already exist? Am I missing something?

>>129245119
We don't need to. We got NATO.

Army of Anti-Christ. Interesting.

>>129245365
>Do the countries in the EU not have their own respective militaries?
Yes, they do. But 50% of what EU states have is parallel overhead. Small Austria has 1/3rd as many generals as the US.... even though their military is 80 times smaller than the US one.

>>129245396
>4th Reich
More like muslim defence force

>>129245119
Junker just heard sailors drink a lot, so he wants to be in charge of a bunch since the higher up you are the more booze you get.

>>129245556
>>129245484
It's not for defense. It's to make countries more reliant on the EU so leaving is impossible.

>>129245484
>Doesn't NATO already exist? Am I missing something?
NATO doesn't do shit to make European defense more efficient. NATO dudes sit in their headquarters calling African dictators asking them for steak dinners. That is all they do, day in, day out.

We are talking about a real EU military, with bundled procurement and getting rid of the parallel structures that make no sense.

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>>129245484
>We got NATO
lol

>>129245119

EUROPE HAS ALREADY SURRENDERED TO IT'S ENEMIES

SO WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU NEED AN ARMY FOR

>>129245119
It may be a stupid idea but obligatory conscription and a 2 year military training would uncuck european effeminate men + it would force mudslimes to assimilate and deradicalise in some way.

>No more sucking Jewish and Saudi cock with America being forced to go to war in the middle east for bullshit all the time

Count me in

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>>129245119
If the EU had an army, do you think they'd allow the UK to leave?

>>129245484
They probably want an EU army to intimidate any other countries from leaving after the UK does.

>>129245977
The UK already said they will leave. The EU does not need to allow anything.

>>129245796
>TO IT'S
>it's

Go on, American. Tell us more about your language.

>>129245934
>It may be a stupid idea but obligatory conscription and a 2 year military training would uncuck european effeminate men + it would force mudslimes to assimilate and deradicalise in some way.

this. Also, 12-18months will be enough. Also needs to be obligatory for womyn as well.

>>129245119

Untill the outer borders are secured from the shitskins you can fuck off with any requests for our blood. Thank you.

They've been shooting for this for awhile.

Tell me this, why does the EU have its own anthem?... Based off of the magnum opus of a German composer? Why are there so many parallels to the EU and the Third Reich?


These are important questions that need to be asked and answered by Europhiles

>>129245119

Yeah let's put Germany in charge of it too. We can train the brave soldiers to shoot blonde men and conduct night raids to ship niggers across the mediterranean.

>>129245119
Armies in the EU started two World Wars. Yeah, probably not a good idea for your chimps to have another one.

>>129245119
and you think are you gonna get one? Europe are a bunch of cucks, so they they hear the following in the same sentence "germany control" and "army," the EC countries like Poland will give you a BIG NO. The only way for the EU to build EU army that is not cucked as the CSDF, you will need to expelled all of the countries that will refuse to help Germany to build a new army; however, that is economic suicide to the EU.
Your future is to pay the 2% for NATO.

>>129246269
>obligatory for womyn as well.

pretty much.

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>>129245747

Don't know what we'd do without you

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>>129245119
>implying you guys can afford your own army without raising your taxes.

Socialism is cancer.

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>>129246338
>Untill the outer borders are secured from the shitskins you can fuck off with any requests for our blood.
Last I checked, you are part of the outer borders and have let in quite a lot of those sandpeople from Russia - which all moved to Sweden and Germany. So it is YOU who are part of the problem, not Germany. We haven't let anyone into the EU borders.

>>129245737
>NATO doesn't do shit to make European defense more efficient.
you pay a fraction of the cost to defend your gay nation, at the expense of foreign occupation. aside from hurt pride, NATO is probably the most efficient defense yurop has. it's the only reason you're able to afford all your pretty social programs.

>>129246883
>>implying you guys can afford your own army without raising your taxes.

It is not like you need to pay conscripts much if anything. It's like slave labor.

>>129245796
so islam can invade more
that army wouldnt be for real europeans

>>129246993

The last I checked that leak was sealed about the instant it appeared.

>>129246872
fucking hate wesley clark. iraq war shilling mother fucker needs to burn in hell

>>129245119
You are not going to be willing to pay for it anyways.

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>>129245119
>Let's make an EU army, it will be very efficient.
>We will have to make nukes too, you know. Germany could take care of that easily you know.

>>129245119
Not actually wrong since it would be great for Germany military industries to have new troops to outfit and multi-billions contracts to sign, which of course also require multi-billions """consultancy""" to be paid.
The fact that those consultants are all somehow related to the ruling government and executive staff of the EU bureaucracy is all happenstance, I assure you.

>>129245119
This is only true if we kill Swedes and other blacks with the army. But local armies would be more than enough for that.

Finally. Europe will now understand that the US was essentially their defense force and now to defend themselves with out us their welfare states will begin to crack and crumble.

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>fw too old to join.
Give em hell g..bois

Occupied Germany doesn't even defend its own borders, in fact it invites enemies right into the German people's heartland. How can they be trusted to defend someone else's borders. The fact is that Merkel is a puppet of the judleins, and is doing their evil work toward genociding all Europeans, for the sake of the judleins.

all of the yuros military branches combined still wouldn't be more than the US marine corps, our smallest service

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>>129245484
You lead is a kike who calls NATO obsolete.

>>129245934
>it would force mudslimes to assimilate and deradicalise in some way.
What a load of bullshit.

We shouldn't let them assimilate or deradicalise because it only makes it harder to deport them one day.

>>129246269
>Also needs to be obligatory for womyn as well.
Which barbaric country sends its young women to the front?!? They are way too valuable to go to war and have to bear children during that time anyways. Girls are for breeding not for canon fodder.

>>129248280
what is even going on in this picture

>>129248320
>Which barbaric country sends its young women to the front?!? They are way too valuable to go to war and have to bear children during that time anyways. Girls are for breeding not for canon fodder.
Our fertility rate is low and many mothers have their first and only kid in their mid 30s. I think 12 months in the military will be beneficial for our fertility rate.

>>129247359
>The last I checked that leak was sealed about the instant it appeared.
Not really. 400,000 illegals made it to Sweden.

Holy shit, I love being neutral.

>>129247046
>your gay nation
>Russian flag

Why are Russians always graving for Germanic cock?

>>129248655
>Holy shit, I love being neutral.
Neutrality will have to be terminated.

Okay guys we need to raise our ENERGY and AWARENESS
Let's do some push ups, get fresh water, a healthy snack
And WAKE UP
We have so much to read and archive
Gotta have ENERGY!

>>129248655
This, Sweden and Ireland will cuck this idea in a instant.

>>129246482
>the EC countries like Poland will give you a BIG NO
It's actually Hungary and Poland which are in favor of an EU army.

>>129246400
>Why are there so many parallels to the EU and the Third Reich?
You're all asking leading questions for which you know the answer. The EU is unironically the 4th Reich.

>>129246479
And your army had its nose in all conflicts that were none of your issue. Starting with WW1 you have only made things worse.
And secure your nigger ghettos before talking shit.

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>>129248280
>dat little nazi chick

>>129245119

Why is it always Germany championing this idea?

>>129245119
+1 my friend. :3

About darn time.

>>129245119
3 months ago you /pol/tards were calling me stupid for saying they'd start pushing for an EU army by the end of the year.

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>>129248596
>400,000 illegals made it to Sweden

Maybe in total, but not through us. What I found most humourous was the media attention and political outcry given to the some hundreds of shitskins coming from Russian border, but the tens of thousands coming from Sweden was just business as usual. A mad world.

>>129245796
So the EU can use the army to force states like poland and hungary to take migrants

>>129248955
Then the EU breaks and the result will be WWIII on the European continent feat. Sand rats

>>129245119
EUROGENDFOR already exists

>>129245119
I knew it, they plan to destroy the NATO to push the EU army.

>>129249533
Neutrality will have to be terminated.

This embarrassing shit cannot be continued in Europe. Never!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQRBjLAW6_8

>>129248280

It's okay dad, we'll see to your well being. You belong with us anyway.

>>129249476
This is exactly what will happen.

Also to stop the revolts when they start persecuting Christians.

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>army controlled by eu bureaucrats

>>129248450
its a nazi postcard from 1942 showing all of european countries being united by the idea of 'europe, our mother' except the uk which is turning to the usa, which is run by the jews

>>129245737
nato is cool. you can down a russian jet and get away with it.

>>129249774

LOL UNEXPECTED ALLY

>>129245287
and current year man

>>129245566
That would be the US military pal

>>129248503
>I think 12 months in the military will be beneficial for our fertility rate.
Well, that's a way of thinking about it.
But then you could make it more overt by saying: if you're pregnant at that time (~18 years) you don't have to do it at all. You could probably even sell it as gender equality or something.

>>129248450
It's not that hard to decipher, is it?

>>129248655
You're not neutral anymore. The EU treaty has a military clause as well.

EU is fucked. Calling all conservatives to come to the US while you still can.

>>129249533
>>129249691
Also look at this shit. This cannot go on, this is embarrassing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc3YjvErSsM

Yes we need it as fast as possible.

>>129245998
This. don't leave us alone with these obsessive communists.

>>129249921
>if you're pregnant at that time (~18 years) you don't have to do it at all.
I don't think this should be the case. Women can work while they are preggo, they can serve in the military while they are preggo.

I was more thinking about hookups while in the miltiary and getting knocked up then like in Israel.

>>129245119
The mad cuck is on the defensive now quite literally.

>>129249184
>The EU is unironically the 4th Reich.

That's not (quite) true. In reality it just won't work without the French and others.

>>129245737
>efficient
Look, Germans, we know you have a hard-on for efficiency but what about FUCKING LOYALTY

Kill. All. White. Males. Now.

>>129245119
To pretect what? Jean Claud's pension?
What the fuck are they even protecting anymore?

>>129245365
basically no

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>>129245737
Then pay your fucking 2% you fucking kraut. I'm so sick of you god damn post-1945 Germans. Your nation was wiped out, both physically and mentally. The loss of culture and architecture was horrendous, not to mention what happened next - literally the Mao-tier culture revolution, carried out not by a gun but with "proper education". Every other kraut in /pol/ is either a nihilist cuck or a mudslime. And this is sad, really sad. True German is a rare sight nowadays

>>129249994

No sane person who has some dignity would go live in America. You have no morals, no ethics, no class. Why would anybody who values himself go live there?
At worst you are libtards, at best you are rednecks.

ITS HABBENING https://youtu.be/7P2fJ4iuxTo

The EU can't afford an army.
/thread

>>129249774
Good point.

>>129245737
Yes, cause nothing says efficiency more than Brussels.

if EU gets an army then war will begin soon.

And you fuckers are gonna kill us all.

Imagine if the US pulled all its forces out next month, the EU would be like a lost 5yo

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>>129245119
this is just a ploy to get the last remaining white men to leave their nests so abdul and achmed can impregnate white women with their superior cultured seed

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>>129245119
We need an EU army.

Of a natsoc EU.

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>>129245119
>desertion
lol. The EU has twice the fucking population of the entire United States.

Why the FUCK is it OUR tax money footing the defense bill for Europe ANYWAY??????

These people are so far detached from reality that they should be immediately stripped of any public office.
>Europe is mad because now that the US isn't going to subsidize her entire defense bill, Europe will NEED to backpedal on her socialist lifestyle.
>Muh every other 1st world country has free healthcare and education
>not for long

>>129250746
This

>>129248320
Omg.How dumb are you senpai?Deportation?Women at war?

kek.That's not the point.

Serving in the military is like being a buddhist monk.--Intense discipline and a sense of communal belonging--My parents have the best stories from the military.

>We shouldn't let them assimilate.
>muh deportation
Even if by some miracle deportation DOES happen most of them won't get deported.Universal conscription is pretty much what keeps a nation's identity from falling apart these days.Look at Ex-Yugo.

Any Greek anon wil hopefully confirm what I'm saying.

>>129250583
>Yes, cause nothing says efficiency more than Brussels.

The Brussels bureaucracy runs on a budget of 5 billion a year for a federation of 500 million.

The US bureaucracy costs hundreds of billions for a union of 300 million.

>>129250746
/thread

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>>129245119
Am I the only one that read it ......................They are right - we need to destroy the EU

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I def dont want anything to do with a yurotrash federalist ((((((((((((((army)))))))))))
these fucking yurokikes are in desperate heat to take advantage of their position in power before this yuro kolhoz utterly collapses.


time is not on their side.

>>129250086
Are they doing the Russia scare in Slovenia as well? How does that fly in your cunt?

>>129250161
>they can serve in the military while they are preggo.
Maybe in the first 6 months but then and 1 year after that they are pretty busy with the child and that's not something that you can outsource easily. Giving babies the bottle instead of the tit isn't good for them.

>I was more thinking about hookups while in the miltiary and getting knocked up then like in Israel.
Do they do that?
Well, it could work. Running through the mud and other physical exercises raise the testosterone levels.

>>129250779
>Why the FUCK is it OUR tax money footing the defense bill for Europe ANYWAY??????

Because you like being cucks? Honestly, not really sure. Your country loves to have soldiers and shit stationed in Europe. For what purpose I never understood, I think it is sort of a vacationing program for negroes and hispanics and white trash.

>>129245365
Germany has broomsticks

I have a feeling Americans are starting to fear us. We need to cut ties asap with them. They are obsolete. We must become bff's with China and Africa and the good middle eastern countries and stop giving a fuck what the fuck is that degen over the pond thinking.

>>129250834
>US doesn't want to abolish the fedgov and start over

>>129245119
OK can we disband the UN then? I think the US should put sanctions on the EU.

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First is funny, didn't know it, second 5/10, nuffin special. But it shows how desperately they need a way better 5th Gen platoon. Still, Austrians will rather induce a new Genocide than sacrificing their neutrality; maybe if Germany forcefully annexes us again and we can blame them after the fun.

>>129245119

Against whom ? Russians ? You don't need an army to get rid of migrants by the way, you just need some political will.

Yes, they need an EU army so they can crack down on their own civilians and defend the invaders terrorizing them.

>>129245119
>Wants an army to attack their own people.
Soviet Union did this.
They people in the west part of the union got to serve in the east part and vice versa.

When you're in an army in a foreign land and don't speak that language, you are unlike to rebel.
When the "hands that owns your ass" tells you to shoot dissidents - you shoot the civilians without questioning.

The Swedish Government has already removed a law that had existed for 70 years or so, that prohibited the government from using the military against its own people.
Kike can make real smart changes in the law well ahead from when it's needed.

>>129251056
>Still, Austrians will rather induce a new Genocide than sacrificing their neutrality

Austria has had soldiers in Syria, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Chad etc. Austria is part of the sanctions against Russia.

How again is Austria neutral?

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>>129245119
Make no mistake, an EU army will be used against the EU countries. Martin Schulz complained once that it was to bad there was no EU army when Poland was not towing the line with regarding the immigrant-invasion. I can't find the clip although I searched for it.
It is the dumbest idea ever.

>>129245119
An EU army is the equivalent of a non-upgraded Age of Empires musket.

>>129245119

>massively reliant on america for protection
>never miss an opportunity to call them warmongers

>>129245737
>Germany doesn't pay NATO bills
>"NATO doesn't do shit"
pay debnts

>>129251117
>Against whom ? Russians ?
Russia is our friend.

We need to defend ourselves against Africans, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.

>>129245119
>risk of US desertion because Europe won't simply pay their bills.
>instead they'd rather waste money on refugees and try to con every nation into surrendering their sovereignty to Germany
remind me again how Germans are the good guys and not just European kikes?

They operate like total kikes in every era of history.
Just as China are the Asian Kikes.

Its funny that Anglos get painted as "bad" by /pol/ meanwhile Anglos are perhaps the ones in the whole world who ever understood the concepts of justice and honoring agreements. Everyone else makes agreements with the plans of usury/betrayal in the end.

Fact is most of these "glorious Europeans" would never have done the honorable things the UK and their children nations have done. They certainly wouldn't go to war for an ally in the modern Era.

>>129250625
At first I was of the opinion that an EU army, would have extreme difficulties launching any operations, because some member states would always oppose.
But that lead me to the conclusion, that any EU army would operate not on a mandate from any parliament. But from the orders of some bureaucrat in Brussel, a commission would decide which country should be invaded and which should not.

>>129250913

Nah we cool with Russkies. Watch this. Last year Putin visited the chapel dedicated to fallen Russian soldiers in WW1. This is the reception he got here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN3F-KxtlUw

The EU is not a state. It can't have an army. They are trying to build one to make nation states obsolete. Fuck Germoney and the EU.

>>129251490
>Russia is our friend.
Have you been in a coma the last 3 years?

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>>129251490
>Africans, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.
And you think an EU army is needed for that? Explain please.

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>>129251477
>>Germany doesn't pay NATO bills
>>"NATO doesn't do shit"
We pay more than anyone but the US.

So what the fuck?

>>129251684
Wrong. Turkey has the second largest armed forces in NATO.

>>129251117

Nah Russians are our friends. So are Chines, Indians, the good middle eastern states, African countries etc.... It's because of Axis of Evil(Brits, Yanks, Saudis, Israelis) that we need the Army

>>129250249
You not one to talk when your leaders are sending your young men to die and bleed and your tax money to pay for the weapons they throw into the Middle East for zero benefits and plenty disadvantages for the common American.

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>>129251490
oh fuck no you damned kraut

If Turks come to slaughter you by the millions I will NEVER raise so much as a finger to defend a damned german

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He wants a clone army

>>129245119
You hear that? The EU wants to put rifles in Muslim refugees hands to wipe out the natives sooner than planned
MADNESS!

>>129251296
This is true. Sadly you and everyone else in Europe are powerless to prevent it. EU army to begin forming by end of year. Count on it.

>>129250217
Yeah France doesn't really fit into the picture because they have too much to say to be a puppet state like Vichy France. But I think in future France will lose more influence still. This Macron guy won't get much done I think. 40% voted anti-EU and commies.
And demographically France is going to be extremely non-white. Even Hitler already noted how afrikanisiert France was and imagined that in 200 years France could be a continuous colonial territory from across the Rhine down to West Africa. He was too optimistic (as always).
Southern Europe is pretty much in a situation that Hitler imagined them to be: Hitler wanted to introduce a currency under German control where the mediterranean countries would be forced into and be destined to be manual labourers.

Read this if you have time:
http://web.archive.org/web/20141121155949/http://www.eurozine.com/articles/2014-01-17-hank-en.html

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>>129251867
>Wrong. Turkey has the second largest armed forces in NATO.
You did not say armed forces, you said NATO bills.

>>129248596
in reality, it was like three dudes on a bike lol

>>129251681
>(Loves rapefugees and hates those working against it, like Russia.)
>Have you been in a coma the last 3 years?

Obama and Hillary been telling you a lot of things.
You shouldn't believe any of it.

How is it you StarStriped people say it? "You've been punked!"

>>129251235
Those are peace keeping missions, not actual wars goy. But yeah, memes aside, Austria is one of the nations hardly pushing for an EU Army in the frame of the CSDP, we are not for nothing way over represented in the EEAS, beside Luxemjews and Malta Niggers maybe. Our governments, no matter which combo, watered down the neutrality in a way that would legitimate a revolution if one follows the designers of our constitution. So point for you, with UK out of the game and Trump being painted as a combination of Jimmy Carter and Brechnew, it will most probably come with minor discussions about Germanys role, what might in an extreme case lead to a West and East EU and in the end to war.

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>>129252030
>He wants a clone army
I am fine with a normal army, but a clone army would be damn fine.

>>129245977
>americans

>>129252208
>in reality, it was like three dudes on a bike lol
Corrected: 300,000 sandpeople on a bike.

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>>129252354
Padme in those white leggings ... mmmm

>>129245119
yeah you fuckin do, eat shit you pussy faggots, I hope the russians conquer you all, you good for nothing leeches

>>129250834
Because member states carry most of the cost in the EU. Moving the military, then it will be healthcare, and so on and so on. If you honestly think the costs won't explode under the EU, then you are crazy. Member states will actually have to pay the required money, where almost none of you do under NATO.

>>129245119
fuck fighting for other cumtrees and fuck no for fighting besides sweedcucks. and ffs Germany, stop with the WWs... this is gonna be the 3rd time.

>>129248763
Isn't there a fair chance you're parents or grandparents were Russian rape babies?

>>129245796
To send off as many remaining white men to go die to jew wars so Ahmed and Jamal have plenty of white women to breed and flush out the last of pure white genes.

>>129251117
To you and everyone else who doesn't understand
An EU army would give Europe more pollitical power in the international arena. The elites aren't stupid, they're more redpilled than this board on most political issues.

>>129245934
Or they will just get better training and intel to use against civilians back home once they're done.

>>129252890
>The elites aren't stupid


thats where youre wrong paddy

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>>129246172

The EU army will happen.
The US and EU will no longer be allies.
The United States will become the Divided States under Trump.
EU will become the new superpower.

It's written in the stars.

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>>129248280

>>129251551
>Anglos are perhaps the ones in the whole world who ever understood the concepts of justice and honoring agreements. Everyone else makes agreements with the plans of usury/betrayal in the end.

This is what mercans actually believe.

>>129245119
Brussel merchants want europe on lockdown so they can flood us with migrants unhindered.

Guess germans are more than happy to police themselves to extinction.

>>129253272
Even with an EU army, you fags are so behind the rest of the world, at best, Ethiopia might see you as a threat.

>>129250812
>Even if by some miracle deportation DOES happen most of them won't get deported.
You are such a defeatist shit. Do you think this shit will go on for much longer now?
In five years (at latest!) we will be talking about mass deportations and in 10 we will do it. In fact I've already read German mainstream newspapers who circumstantially introduced such vocabulary in their articles about terror incidents.

>Universal conscription is pretty much what keeps a nation's identity from falling apart
That might be true. But it's not the sole reason we need it. You sound like a (((civic nationalist))).

>>129253272

From your mouth to god's ears!

Axis of evil need to be destroyed!

>>129253509
You're in denial I see.

>>129253421
It is ok, you guys are a young nation, eventually you might learn honor. I doubt it based on your history, but still.

>>129253509

Don't worry Amerobro. We will civilize you and you will have a better life.

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>>129253315

>>129245119
The reason the eurocunts in bruxelles want this is so that they can erase nato and national militaries and police forces as another step to eradicating national sovereignity of the european nations and handing it over to the commie cunts in bruxelles. This is the stepping stone to replacing NATO and national police forces with an EU army/police force

What's the danger of this? Very clear to see, the more sovereignity you give away to bruxelles the harder it becomes for you to leave and decide over your own country. If you concede your military and police protection over to a EU variant only. If you leave the EU you will have no national military or police.

They're trying to turn the EU into one big country with 1 military and 1 police force, run from bruxelles and the nations in europe can go fuck themselves and operates as states essentially and bruxelles a federal government.

It's simply a communist powergrab. Everything the EU was intended to be they're trying to destroy or turn into some kind of orwellian bullshit.

>>129253627
Nope, I am the realistic one here. Fuck, German soldiers, your strongest nation, were training with fucking brooms as pretend guns. And you think you will become a superpower overnight.

>>129251551
>justice
>anglos understood the concept of justice
Are you retarded or what?
>honorable things
I'll just throw one of your (((honorable things))) out there. The (((liberation))) of Sicily. It sure is honorable to deal with criminal organization in order to invade a country.

>>129253945
Who said it was gonna happen overnight? Stay in denial bro.

>>129248280
What use is NATO when you niggers are jihading yourselves to death? Serious question.

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>>129245119
>we need a fucking EU army

Little late now after you let in a hundred million orc invaders.

Remember when people laughed at Nigel for suggesting the EU wanted their own army?

>>129252829
>Isn't there a fair chance you're parents or grandparents were Russian rape babies?
More like they were Russians.

>>129245698
This. They've already started this with the Netherlands, All of their tanks and most of their paratroops are under German control.

>>129245119
go fuck yourself, kraut.
it's a pity we didn't finish the job when we could exterminate you. fucking cancer of europe.

>>129254123
>that red dress with the blue dots is shopped in about 30 times

>>129254207
>This. They've already started this with the Netherlands, All of their tanks and most of their paratroops are under German control.
See this >>129253922
Imagine the blackmail opportunities bruxelles can enact when your military/police protection is under their jurisdiction..

>if you leave the EU and don't pay or allow mass immigration, no military protection for you! no this and that for you etc.
>ok ok i'll accept the blackma.. i mean kind request for you and do what you say.
Fuck the EU man i'm so tired of this shit, we don't need it to collaborate with eachother nation to nation in military alliance or anything else. It has done nothing but damage europe and is lead by a bunch of crazed unelected communists in bruxelles.

>>129253922
It will at most become a confederacy. Nation states will still exist with "a united EU" with some level of autonomy.
I don't see a problem with this..

Also, the EU emerged and are at the core a free-trade zone.

>>129245119
No, bucko.

We need an German Army worth an Invasion.

>>129254093
Biggest, best funded and most trigger happy military on the planet being bound by international law to at least pretend to be a European ally. The moment the NATO breaks up, Poland will be Russia again and Roachistan will be parted among sand rats. Don't confuse International politics with national politics. Some muzzies blowing themselves up and being some kind of population control is unimporant in the game among states.

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WW3 is going to be USA, UK, Russia and the Visegrad vs. The Western European Caliphate, formerly known as the EU.

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>>129245119

Tell me, who exactly is going to pay for this European Army? You fuckers are importing an arab invasion force in hopes their productivity will pay for your social programs which are going bankrupt as your sub-replacement birthrates trip the whole tax driven ponzi scheme. There's no money in Europe to pay for a real military.

Furthermore, I'm sure you eurocrat idiots think you are going to draft those same invaders into your European Army in hopes they'll do your fighting for you.

>>129249184
>And your army had its nose in all conflicts that were none of your issue. Starting with WW1 you have only made things worse.
>And secure your nigger ghettos before talking shit.

Thanks for chiming in and confirming for everyone what a fucking low IQ mouth breather you are. Nice one.

>>129253748
>you guys are a young nation

My small and insignificant hometown was founded by Romans, there are Roman buildings, bridges and other structures in a larger city about 30 miles from here. Written history for my town goes back 800 years, 2000 years for the larger neighborhood city. I laugh at your stupid arrogance.

>>129245119
>Germany
>Having an Army
We already know how this is going to turn out you effeminate pussy.
You'll fucking lose, like you always lose.
Like you have always lost.
The country of Germany has never been on the winning side of a war, ever.

>>129245934

you're idiot if u think all those jobless rapefugees won't be conscripted and let loose on the native population

>>129254738

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHA........... HAHHAHHA

Russians and Visegards would never betray Europe you cuck. UK otoh ofc they will

WW3 will be USA, UK , Israel, Saudi Arabia vs Rest of the World. Mark my words. No self respecting European will ever co-operate with Americans. Maybe we get on each other nerves , but looool if you think Hungarians like you more than (pick any country in Europe)

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Fuck you OP, do you even understand what UE army is for? It's for fighting the "evil right wing extermists" and countries unobedient to cummists UE government. FUCK YOU.

>>129254527
>They leave the EU and accept burger protection.
Also I thought Germany wasn't allowed to have a real military. On account of the 2 Wars.

>>129245119

build your own kraut , France is not your personal army.

>>129249921
>pregnancy gets them excused from service
I'd say 3 children to get them excused.
Only applying to native Europeans, turkey not be considered part of europe.

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>>129245119
And what a cluster fuck of stupid that will be.

>>129254751
They also plan to have them hover over them while in old age homes. think about it...having people who want you to die taking care of you while you are most vulnerable.

>>129254534
>Nation states will still exist with "a united EU" with some level of autonomy.
>i don't see a problem with this..
>it's going to be alright.

Look what it has turned into from its original intention behind it.. are you kidding me right now.

>Also, the EU emerged and are at the core a free-trade zone.

Something that's not even necessary to have, we can easily make trade deals with eachother on a nation by nation basis. And what has it turned into? a fucking monster that bullies and fines and otherwise tries to intimidate countries for not wanting to accept an endless stream of brown and muslim hordes of people, and won't even allow us to close our own borders or fortify schengen.

Not to mention run by an unelected bunch of beaureaucrats. No thanks. I can't in good concience support this bullshit any longer. The migrant crisis (remove all gibs for migrants and send them to the 57 majority muslim nations, there is no fucking crisis) and brexit etc. really showed what the EU beauraucreaucy has become. It was supposed to make things easier for european nations, not to control european nations.

I just can't fanthom how can some Europeans suck AMerican dicks. We have our differences but lol at you cuck fucks, bending over to Americans. Have some respect for fuck sake cunts.

>>129252351
>So point for you, with UK out of the game and Trump being painted as a combination of Jimmy Carter and Brechnew
We should use the chance and throw the shit overbord that the (((Anglos))) burden us with. You are constitutionally not allowed to belong to Großdeutschland any more, we aren't allowed anything basically.
It's time to seize the opportunity and make Germany Reich again.

>what might in an extreme case lead to a West and East EU and in the end to war
Yeah sure, Fritz. Germany doesn't belong to either East nor West. We're Central Europe.

>>129252890
>they're more redpilled than this board on most political issues.
Well, they are doing it for a living and have access to all the intelligence information.
Who knows how fucked up the muslim infestation is in reality.

>>129245119
Ofcourse they'll use the russian "threat" on europe to justify the creation of an EU army.That army will most likely be used to passify extremists and disagreeing countries.

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>>129255424
Don't worry we'll be there to help you out when you can't defend your shit-hole of a country from foreign invaders. We got you.

>>129255706
Well you usually are the foreign invaders.

>>129245119
>(((They)))

>>129255021
That's very nice and all. But the age of your town has no bearing on the age of your nation, dipshit.

>>129255021
And yet your nation IS young. I liked Bismarck BTW.

>>129255706

NOT A SINGLE AND I REPEAT NOT A SINGLE ANGLO SOLDIER STEP FOOT IN OUR COUNTRY DURING BOTH WW's. And we still won. Get the fuck out you never helped us.

>>129245119
>members started leaving
>suddenly (((we))) need a EU army

really made my vocal cords go ''hmmmm''

>>129254751
All the EU states have armies already

The problem is non of them are funded sufficiently so they sponge off well equipped allied forces like France, UK, US, Greece.

Merging them into 1 cluster fuck of under funded shit wont help anyone, they money will just vanish while troops wont know what the fuck is going on.

Well, fuck.

>>129245119
The eternal kraut strikes again.
We have NATO we don't need your 4th reich bullshit.
Fuck off

>>129245119
>look at me I posted it again
Kill yourself commie

>>129246872
This, based (((Wesley Clark))). Whites countries need to become multi-ethnic, and as (((Barbara Lerner Spectre))) said, Jews will spearhead this movement.

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Would USA help NATO states if EU army would do anything to them?

>>129256397
Fuck no.

>>129246172

Look, not just a grammar Nazi, but a literal Nazi...

>>129255410
Not gonna respond to it all..

But a brief point I think is relevant. The leaders of the European member states (prime ministers) appoint the "unelected people in Brussel" Juncker, Tusk, etc. Have been appointed.

If political sentiments shift in the countries in the EU, other people will be appointed.
These things can change, it is not written anywhere that the EU should relocate refugees, they could have decided to reinforce the external borders.
With the UK out, Visegrad countries will have more to say; and if the anti-immigration sentiment continue to rise in western Europe, then the next Juncker or Tusk might be someone with other ideas.

>>129252890
>An EU army would give Europe more pollitical power in the international arena. The elites aren't stupid, they're more redpilled than this board on most political issues.

They're the ones who let this horde in. They aren't "redpilled" they just have different motivations, they want a ONE europe thing where there's no european sovereign nation states so we can't even send the horde of migrants out of our countries.

If they wanted a stronger EU military then stop fucking up the Eurozone economy with bringing all these poor nations into them and just urge the nations to increase military spending to get NATO more beefed up which would gradually allow the US to phase out and save the US a lot of money and give the EU more political power.

There's literally no reason for doing this under the EU that it can't be done via nato and increased military spending in all nations in the EU. We would like to be able to leave the EU bullshit not be so tied into that we can't get out of it, especially seeing what bullshit it has become currently.

The real redpill is that there is no real NEED for the EU beaureaucracy that can't be handled by nato and nation to nation trade deals. But the communist wants it to have some kind of commie EU down the line.

And once nation states are removed there goes all ethnic identity down the tubes and with all the browns and niggers coming in we'll turn into a puddle of mud because we can't even say anymore that "not inside my borders" because then the EU won't have them.. It's fucking sick and it must die, down with EU.

>>129255890

You're some kind of village idiot?

>>129255196
I mean, you sort of did before the cold war ended, and you decided that having gibs for the 3rd world was more important than a defense force.

>HOW DARE TRUMP DEMAND US TO PAY MORE FOR NATO
>WE NEED TO DEFEND OURSELVES
>EVERYONE, WE NEED TO PAY MORE FOR AN EU ARMY

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>>129255912
Los Angeles California has a GDP 11x that of Slovenia. Dear friend, you are irrelevant. Your country is irrelevant. Your unemployment rate is at 11%-- you lazy fuck.

>>129256729
So witty. You still can't change the facts, young Germany.

>>129255912
Yeah that's not true. No major battles there, but anglo soldiers did march through. that's how Vlasov linked up with allied forces. Also, he liberated Prague, not the Red Army.

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>>129245119

EU Army is going to be used to stop countries from leaving/resisting the EU.

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>129245119
Against what?

Russia?

Face it europoors you are obsolete in this timeline.

>>129252890
>power
against whom?

China? haha china owns everything via money printed investment
Russia? Putins been blocked for so long he has other allies, like he cares for the EU
Migrants? Free movement is a core value, your live is worthless when there are a billion Africans to replace you.

>>129256761

Because you fucks drag us in multiple wars and it's only you who benefited from them and the rest of the western world is now deep shit because of that?
You fucks are literally Jews.

We need a fuckin EU army, to defeat EU

>>129256729
We wuz Romans!

>>129245119
>German sabers rattle again
Took you long enough, Jerry

>>129245119

Get fucked Kraut.

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>>129257011
>tfw even bahamas knows we're shit

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>>129256494
P-please.

Poles already got army as big as German one. With GB support and yours, Kraut is fucked again.

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>>129257081
Like what war did the US drag Slovenia in? Be specific. I'll even accept any Balkan nation dragged into a US war.

>>129256924

Come fight us tho bitch. Would love to see you fat fucks fight in mountains. Hurr durr we have jew money. Hurr durr.

>>129257081
So, instead of being jewed, you want to be The Jew...that's understandable. Jew away!

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When will USA, UK and Russia put their differences aside and deal with the another rising kraut menace?

>>129257338

Iraq, Afghanista, Kosovo?

>>129257374
Yeah, because the Afghanistan mountains stopped us. Go suck Russian cock, all you are good for.

>>129249751
How does it feel to change one (((union))) for another?

>>129257513
Russia has already been maneuvering against Germany for quite some time.

Don't worry Eurofriends, not all Americans will turn their backs on their ancestral homelands. I find it unfortunate that some of you seem to hate us, but I will admit that we are far from perfect. Still, when I look at the rest of the world, I can think of no other group of people I would rather stand besides during such troubled times.

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>>129257374
No need to fight in your dumb fucking mountains. You're not worth the MOABS. We're down to fuck all your women though. They like that big American dick.

>>129257557
nah on the first 2 and kosovo was you guise war, not ours. You fucks dragged us in to it.

>>129257721
The Japanese.

>>129245119
My biggest fear is that I will see white men killing each other again one day.

>>129256941
>So witty.

No, it isn't. But why should I pay any respect to that retarded notion of some dumbfuck mercans who are literally the most history deprived "nation" ever, trying to simply negate my history by some bullshit ooh-you-were-not-a-real-nation-because-something-something. Eat shit dumbass.

>>129255295
>I'd say 3 children to get them excused.
You shouldn't overdo it. Else people calculate and say: I'd rather do military service.
But once you've got one child it's easier to get another one. Women are psychologically wired to get addicted to babies.

A good family policy should aim for having young families (<25yo) and making it very easy to have many children so that you pump out several of them once you're at it.

>>129255424
No need to be so hostile.
But of course Europe shouldn't have to rely to some outgrown British colony to fullfill it's basic acts of sovereignity.
I find it pretty pathetic that there are Europeans (even on /pol/) who don't want Europe to be a huge fucking military power.
A hundred years ago Europe did rule the world and today they ask Americans to do their defense. That's such an indignified behaviour. It's time Europe steps on the world stage again, even if it takes a unified Europe to do so. If that's what it takes I'm for it. The EU should just leave our national competences (immigration, budget, cultural policies, etc.) to us.

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>>129257721
J-just help us this time from start.
Dealing with Kraut is not that hard. And it will be even easier this time.

>>129257640

The funny thing is. They did loool . You got fucked by goat fuckers loool.

>>129257841
There will hardly be any whites left to shoot eachother in the next 50 years. So no need to fear.

>>129257841
lol fuck white cocksuckers

either die fighting for your freedom killing your oppressors or die fighting bound in chains for their multinational banks and corporations.

>>129258024
Stop trying to co-op other peoples history.

>>129258032
No problem with Europan army.

Just not in your lead, nor in your union. There is no big threat which would need such army at the moment.

Europan army would be threat to Europan countries.

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>>129257320
You cannot compare armies capability with numbers of soldiers.
Denmark fought in Afghanistan, around 50 Danish soldiers died, but more than a 1000 Taliban soldiers died. The Taliban had numerous advanteges, such as they litterally could hide in plain site, and they had knowledge of the terrain.

Secondly. Why are you against Germany? but pro-UK, the UK is a meme country at this point. They have no UKIP, only commies and cuckservatives.
Germany at least have a growing Afd party..

>>129245119
>EU army with Muslim fodder in the ranks

pls

>>129258024
Awww, did I strike a nerve, Boche? Your supposed history, as a nation, is undermined by the fact you have not been a nation for very long.

>>129257374
>Come fight us tho bitch. Would love to see you fat fucks fight in mountains. Hurr durr we have jew money. Hurr durr.

Our Salvation Army could conquer your shithole faggot. Just sit back and let the real nations discuss this.

>>129257780

Wat? Slovenian soldiers were both in Iraq and Afganhistan. We wouldn't fucking be there if you wouldn't meddle with them. And look where we are now and what's happening in the world.

>>129258205

Lol'd IRL. You can't touch me mercan.

>>129257841

No worries yanks are black.

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>>129245119

>>129258062
Now you are just delusional.

>>129257741

Yeah like any self respecting woman would sleep with fat fucks as americans are kek.

>>129258299
Because, Brits are no threat to us anymore.

Germans are.

>>129258436
>you wouldn't meddle with them
lol

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>>129245119

Let's face it - Juncker needs another plan - to not be remembered as President of European Comission that watched UK leave the Union. His political legacy is ruined.

>>129251958
Thats what they signed up for, dumbass

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>>129245119
With what shekels would you paying us for our weapons then? You know you can't afford the R&D before and you know you can't do it now with your Muslim welfare hordes. By the time you are equipped and ready to go Muhammad is going to take command and start a internal war killing whats left of the whites. (That is if any sane people bother to stick around.)

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>>129245934
This is actually a good idea

shut up fag. let world burn

>>129258436
>Slovenian soldiers were both in Iraq and Afganhistan.


AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT A BUNCH OF SLAVSHIT SUCKERS!!!


AAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>129258402

We saved Europe 2 times while you fags didn't event exist and were still fucking Brits.

>>129245396
lol what would happen to /pol/ is it turned out super based what a twist that would be

>>129245119
No achmed, you need an EU army.
We need to fire bomb germany again.

>>129255978
All of the EU militaries combined (and I'm including the UK for the moment) are insufficiently armed and sized, especially from a naval standpoint, to protect European interests. They would likely have a difficult time repelling Russian aggression and they certainly have no meaningful force projection abilities. The entire combined EU military expenditures for all current member states is one third that of US military expenditure. This means the EU would have to cough up 400 billion dollars to theoretically match the US.

Excluding the UK means the EU member states aren't even close to PRC's budget of 200 billion. Throw-in all the inefficiencies of service and C&C duplication currently and realized value on that spend is likely an order of magnitude lower than what the US or PRC sees. An EU central military managed by the grossly bureaucratic EU "government" would likely result in quotas for transgendered-arab-women and sustainable renewable biodegradable tanks made of compressed wood pulp and powered by LI batteries.

Yeah you really need that Army to defend against foreign invaders oh wait shit

>>129245119
100% dangerous, NWO agenda
4chan won't let me link the original page
u/PleadingtheYiff

III. How ISIS provides Merkel with an excuse to occupy Europe with her new army

With an EU army formed, Merkel would only need to look for a good excuse to deploy it. The most likely cover story would be to diffuse some kind of “humanitarian crisis.” What exactly might that crisis look like? There could be a number of reasons, such as fighting “far right racism” against minorities for example.
I personally believe that given the evidence I have uncovered about Germany’s complicity in allowing Islamic extremists to enter the EU, the evidence indicates that they are possibly hoping ISIS will stage a major terror incident in one or two locations in the EU, or perhaps across the entire Union. The militaries of multiple countries would inevitably engage in an immediate crackdown following such a severe event and this would most likely focus solely on migrant heavy areas and “no go zones” inhabited by the Muslim minorities in Europe. This would give the EU a perfect humanitarian excuse to justify violating the sovereignty of multiple European nations and centralize power with the EU government, which is mainly German controlled.

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>>129245119
>Create a giant standing army under german control.
Sure, that's a good idea.

>>129259170
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5k0azo/i_believe_i_have_uncovered_evidence_that_angela/

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>>129258823

But we were you fag.... Self hating american cuck sucker. How can you live with yourself?

>>129245580
Oh fuck off you cucks. Maybe you should build your fucking armies because right now if Putin wanted to fuck mama merkel I wouldn't lift a finger.

>>129259310
stfu you dumb SLAVESHIT

>>129258032
>overdo
Mayne make it so it excuses them until the child is 18-24 months.
That way they'll just keep having them to stay out.
Maybe a small tax rebate for each child at 1 year old, 5,000, and another 5,000 when they graduate high school.

>>129245119

>Trump literally will start WW3

Were the liberals right from the start? Are we the bad goys?

>>129245119
1.Institute EU army
2.Kick muzzies out
3.Allow countries to control the number economic migrants

Here, fixed EU for you

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If there would be a war with russia, I would swap sides.
Fightning together with Germans in one army is proven to be a foolish mistake.

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>EU army is established
>Forces Poland and Hungary to comply
>Poland and Hungary cut off ties to EU
>EU sends in army
>War breaks out, Poland and Hungary conquered
>EU becomes more and more Orwellian, native Europeans dying
>US has had enough and has identified the EU as a threat to national security
>US goes to war with EU, Russia comes up from behind
>War ends, Western Europe now belongs to the US, Eastern Europe belongs to Russia

>>129245737
Eat a dick. If trump pulls out of germanistan he moves ramstein to Romania and Poland.

And I sure as hell hope he lets your multi kulti ass in the wind ready to be gangbanged by whoever wishes.

>>129245119
Good, we don't need to be fighting wars for europoors all the time.

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>>129258564
>self-respect

It seems like you Euros have none of that in stock the way you treat your country and people. Time to bend over fucci boi God knows you will do anything for a few BIG American dollars.

>>129259392
Maybe**

I'd like for us to encourage white birth rates here, but any action we might take would have to be offered to blacks and brown skins or they'd demand resignations over the 'racism'.

>> giving to yuroglobalists a big army
>> same yuroglobalists that are importing millions of niggers and muslims
>>Germany will lead it

Sure, why not?

An EU army would have to deal with a large amount of language barriers, complete inconsistency in equipment, training, leadership, etc.

This idea only appeals to boot lickers and those who want another USA, desu famalam.

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>>129259574
>Were the liberals right from the start? Are we the bad goys?
We follow something that at least resemble logic.. they follow their feelings, no matter where it will take them.

>>129245934
I agree but I sure as hell don't want a fifth column getting military training.

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>>129245934
I agree.

Train the Muslims to kill you faster. You Euros are some fast track thinkers way ahead of your time with incredible future predicting capabilities.

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>>129246872
>literally his only argument is "its 2017"

>>129257081
Burn the nato coal, pay the nato toll.

Question for the Euros here, how would Switzerland respond to an EU army? Would they care?

>>129248320
Israel. And if they don't want to go trough basic they can get married and get children.

>>129245119
>Germans, French, and other Euros are expected to join and die for their governments which are openly hostile to them and are replacing them with non-Whites
Time to see just how cucked Europe is.

>>129258295
>Just not in your lead, nor in your union.
What kind of European army do you want then?

>There is no big threat which would need such army at the moment.
You don't have a big army to defend yourself. You have a big army to """"defend"""" yourself, i.e. parking an aircraft carrier in the strait of Gibraltar or near the Persian Gulf to make your wishes clear.
If you're not in danger to be attacked on your home turf you use it to roam around the seas and shape things towards your favor.

>No problem with Europan army.
>Europan army would be threat to Europan countries.
So which one is it?

>>129258578
Are we? I don't think you've got any clay that we'd like, do you?

>>129258896
>We saved Europe 2 times while you fags didn't event exist and were still fucking Brits.

Look junior, I can see why you're getting all riled up cuz your little shithole country is insignificant. I mean, when's the last time you heard someone say, "yeah, it's really good. It was made in Solvenia."? Or, "wow, Solvenia really has good ____".

How about NEVER.

>>129259993
EU armies are already mosty modeled after the U.S. army.
>>129260234
They wouldn't care

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>>129245119

>>129260357
I meant version with you in lead.

>>129245119
So Trump states that you people need to put more into your own defense, and it instantly becomes the US bailing. Well boo fricking hoo.
>>129245365
Except for maybe Great Britian no. The EJoos cry poor when it comes to military expenditures.
>>129245484
NATO is US centric, in that the US is predominant in the EU. Even though we have cut back there, we still have a lot of bases there.
>>129245747
Exactly. Which is why Trump said what he did. Now the welfare queens can pay their own way.

>>129260393
Interesting. Was just curious, thanks.

>>129259838
I'm okay with, Britain calls dibs on Brittany and Saxony as our rightful clay

>>129245119
>be euroshits
>America sucks blah blah blah you guys are fat burgers fuck you
>America gets uncucked with trump
>UK tells europe to choke on it
>American soldiers leaving europe
>uhhhh shit guys I think we need an army now

Truly the greatest timeline

>>129259838
>War ends, Western Europe now belongs to the US, Eastern Europe belongs to Russia
France has hundred of nuclear warheads.. they have nuclear submarines. How do you prevent nukes from striking Moscow or New York? by nuking the shit out of them first.. Even then at least a couple of nukes will most likely have hit some American cities.
Europe would be gone.. there will be no French wine, no German cars, no more inventions will come out of Europe. The world will have lost..
We surpassed the time where anyone could benefit from a major war a long time ago..

>>129260594
Could claim back Normandy as well.

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>>129245119
Fuck you and fuck your European army. All that you faggots would use it for is enforcing your own jew tricks. I'd rather keep Romania's shitty small army than join your conglomerate of faggots.

>>129245119
How the fuck is a Eurozone going to raise a nationalist army when its never even been a united nation in this time of waning nationalism. I mean I honest to god do not think even the US could raise a republican army these days. I don't know who could. Maybe Russia, maybe China. But even then it certainly wouldn't be anything like the days of Napoleon, or the great wars of the 20th century. How does globalism get what it wants without armies? Thats why Ive always thought globalism is destined to fail. Western men aren't going to fight for the benefit of chinks, or mudslimes, or anybody else. And if you can't do that then you dont have armies and you cant enforce anything and the whole thing dissolves into a huge power vacuum that tears everything apart.

>>129260366

Slovenia made your fucking first lady kek. We literally run White House. HAHAHHA

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>>129249891
Perfidious as always I see.

>>129245998
This. It's not to actually fight external threats (Russia, Muslim 'refugees' and migrants, etc.). It's to fight internal threats (EU member countries wanting to leave the EU and "crashing it with no survivors").

The UK leaving dealt a major blow to the EU as they're going to have to dig deeper for shekels to support their retarded ideas. They also lose UK military might, which could've been used to keep other EU member countries from "going astray" (aka leaving the EU)--now they need actual military might.