/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL

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Best damn thread on /pol/ only NEETs and lazy Nogs oppose hard work and capitalism.

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Pic related is the real reason why authoritarianfags fear capitalism.

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Libertarianism is the true opposition to the ZOG.

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How's my freedom loving, commie hating pals doing today?

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discord /fsCd57

book club

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How are my based culturally conservative reactionary-tier champions of liberty doing today? Still ready for the counter-revolution against leftists and fascists?

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>>129234389
We'll make em all pay, brother.

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so I know this is kind of a boring and unexciting topic, but AnCap and the Environment is something a lot of people are concerned about. A couple days ago I posted pic related, and the person I was replying it to said it was ok as a response. I'm wondering though, do you think the answer is good enough to be a consistent and valid stance for Anarcho-Capitalism in general everywhere?

the environment is one of the few topics where I don't see very many other AnCaps agree on or don't know how to respond properly, which must be addressed eventually if we are to be taken seriously. I'm looking for feedback basically, we need to make it clear where we stand, why, and how it works

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>>129234389
>When utopian, abstract philosophical idealism leads you straight back to traditional values, only now x1000 because they have a logically unassailable basis in rational ethics
Who /Randian reactionary/ here?

>>129236003
>Who /[denied by spam filter*]/ here?
ftfy

*Jew

>>129235745
Yes, I like that response. The most surefire way to ensure that any limited natural resource is not wasted is to privatize it.
>Whales are being hunted to extinction
>Privatize whales
>Whaling companies put GPS transponders on pods of whales so they can track them, and paint them with the company logo
>Companies have an interest in maintaining and growing their stock of whales, like cattle ranchers
>Companies have an interest in protecting the whales they own from illegal predation
Rinse and repeat for rhinos, rainforests, whatever the fuck you want

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>>129236003
>(((Ayn Rand)))

>>129236003
Could never into Rand to much, but I'd like to. instead /Reactionary Rothbardian Populist/ here.

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>>129237233
p good desu
though I prefer Hoppe to Rothbard, even if they are pretty close

Liberals are nothing but banker/capitalist puppets. They hate freedom.

>>129237729
Classical liberals understood the need for personal liberty. Neoliberals are just dude open borders lmao

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We commie hating in here?

>>129237967
Could we work on finding out who funds the globalist liberals? Would give us much /pol/ street cred if we named the Jew that tries to bandwagon Libertarianism..

>>129238100
Always hating commies.

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>>129237118
>But she advocates selfishness! How mean!
>Her novels are badly written!
>Only 14 year old fedoras could possibly take her seriously!
>She hated socialism, but benefited from medicare! Lolberts BTFO!
>But she's a JEW!11!!!!1
I love it when people "argue" like this. I wonder why they dare not take her on on intellectual grounds? Oh, yeah, because she'd annihilate them.
>>129237233
Yeah, some of her stuff is hard to stomach, especially Atlas Shrugged, which is a philosophical manifesto disguised as a 1200 page novel. You should take a look at her essays, though. I actually think she's far better at non-fiction, argumentative writing.
>The Virtue of Selfishness
>Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal
>Philosophy: Who Needs It?
>The Anti-Industrial Revolution
/comfy/ as fuck

>>129236747
thanks

and yes that seems like a good solution for whales or whatever else that needs to be conserved

>>129238679
We should start by finding the top donators to the LP, probably a proxy corporation, maybe with some names attached.

>>129238720
Will do.

>>129238100
commie hating is always appropriate.

>>129233013
Wow.
So many jews in that picture

>>129239444
can you even name them all from memory?

>>129239620
Ayn Rand
Rothbard?
Hayak
Friedman?

>>129239881
There's also one I don't know. But he looks jewish

>>129239881
Hayak ain't a Jew.

>>129240320
My bad.
Who's that bottom second to right with the stache?

Anyway, Libertarianism seems to be judeo-germanic collaboration project.

>>129240958
Mises, he is a Jew.

>>129240958
Ludwig von Mises, possibly the Austrian school's most prestigious economist. Wrote 'Human Action', the go-to authoritative work on uncucked economics

>>129240005

Where the fuck do you think the money comes from in the first place?

Oh, yes, that's right...CORPORATIONS.

Dumb fucking lefties.

>>129240005
>government paying private companies isn't proof private companies do good
fuck off anprim

We made it boys
https://mises.org/blog/mises-understood-meme-magic

>>129241800
Who do you think defends contracts?

Capitalism is state sponsored-usury. Enjoy.

>>129242963
this but unironically

>>129242836
What are you trying to say? You're anti-adoption for neglected children? You're for murdering children?

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>>129243103
what he said

>>129242865
Fucking sweet.

>>129243103
I concur.

>>129242956
Your thinking fascist econ. Capitalism is in private hands only.

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>>129242836
Here's the bit of the quote you cropped out.
>Superficially, this sounds monstrous and inhuman. But closer thought will reveal the superior humanism of such a market. For we must realize that there is a market for children now, but that since the government prohibits sale of children at a price, the parents may now only give their children away to a licensed adoption agency free of charge.This means that we now indeed have a child-market, but that the government enforces a maximum price control of zero, and restricts the market to a few privileged and therefore monopolistic agencies. The result has been a typical market where the price of the commodity is held by government far below the free-market price: an enormous "shortage" of the good. The demand for babies and children is usually far greater than the supply, and hence we see daily tragedies of adults denied the joys of adopting children by prying and tyrannical adoption agencies. In fact, we find a large unsatisfied demand by adults and couples for children, along with a large number of surplus and unwanted babies neglected or maltreated by their parents. Allowing a free market in children would eliminate this imbalance, and would allow for an allocation sf babies and children awayfiom parents who dislike or do not care for their children, and toward foster parents who deeply desire such children. Everyone involved: the natural parents, the children, and the foster parents purchasing the children, would be better off in this sort of society.

>yfw literally arguing against something that already exists under the state

>>129240005
How can people argue this and think they're smarter than someone else?

Government is not inventing things, people are, all these inventors didn't apply for a company of the government, they were on their way to inventing something, then the government sent military to their houses/garages to obtain exclusive rights over this for military use, either that or the government taxed a company for X and gave them X / 2 in funds for an invention, they never break even.

Government will obviously be the highest bidder, considering it has unlimited funds, and will force people to work for them anyway, because some things "can't fall in the wrong hands". Then delay things such as the commercialization of internet because they want to keep their military use away from the enemy.

What we're not seeing, either, is how much money the government spends for a couple of success stories, and how much of that money could have been used for other inventions that we will never have because people are underfunded because of government intervention.

Do inventions come from poor countries? Mostly not. Why? Because people are starving/have no funds to bring their ideas to reality/have shitty public education. No amount of state will ever guarantee inventions, inventions come exclusively from highly capitalized countries, even if the government funds them, they fund them with taxes of highly capitalized companies.

>>129242956
A mutually agreed middleman?

You want to do something for Peter, Peter wants you to do something, you sign a contract and expose it to a middleman to make sure both parties are satisfied or compensated.

There's absolutely no need for a state in this equation.

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Why do ancaps think a prescriptive theory of property is more viable than a descriptive one?

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>>129242865
>it's real

wew lad

>>129244267
Explain? Always like debating this stuff.
>Demonstrated property
>based on observations of what people actually consider to be their property
You can't establish a moral principle on public opinion. If I believe my TV belongs to me, but Jamal, LeDarius and their five siblings believe it belongs to them, who's right?
Rights and moral principles have to have an objective basis in the facts of reality for them to have any meaning.

>>129244806
come to our discord too
discord gg BTJwVkf

>>129242905
oh my god so bad i share my country with this socialist monkey

>>129239950
muh i "argue" against libertarianism with unrealistic situations

>>129243266
>let_me_change_some_definitions_around_ha_now_you're_wrong.smuggie

A FUCKING POTATONIGGER

>>129244032
Who is that middle-man?
What happens when I inevitably decide to not pay you up.
Will the middle man rough me up? Does the middle-man has an army, a police force and lawyers?

>>129243455
You don't understand what the word usury means, do you?
In it's vulgar form it's interest on a loan.
Who enforces that interest? The state.
It sponsors it with the threat of violence.

Natsoc econ, actually is not usurious.

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>>129245560
you just get blacklisted, excommunicated, and ostracized from trade or inclusion (i.e. from visiting certain property, expulsion). No violence, so you don't get roughed up or anything, no military or police will be out to get you if you cooperate non-violently in return

sure this means you can just run off to fulfill short-term pleasures but in the long-term being excluded from everybody else will not help you sustain yourself. basically you starve if nobody sells you anything, because you've chosen not to be a trustworthy person worth selling or making deals with if you're acting like a cunt

this is freedom from government, not from consequences. If you're gonna be an asshole, there can be penalties from your actions. If you DO get violent though (especially if you're starving and desperate for food but not willing to work for it), you can just get shot for breaking the NAP like the niggers you're sharing a mindset with

a society that actually encourages responsibility, restraint, and self-control instead of outright physical brutality by whoever owns the bigger gun? oh no woe is me

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>>129245246
I'm not a socialist, you retard. I advise you move to the United States if you love your jewish masters so much.

>>129246011
Fair enough, however if the state is enforcing the interest it is not Capitalism. If the person taking the loan understands and agrees to the terms then it is at which point it's his own damn fault.

>>129244959
>You can't establish a moral principle on public opinion
It isn't public opinion - it's moral intuition, people will inevitably retaliate in some form for perceived violations of what they consider their property. If you look at the history of Europe as groups of warring families/tribes who eventually became more peaceful towards each other over time, you can detect the incentives they created in order to dissuade each other from constantly destroying/stealing what they considered their property.

Retaliation spirals inevitably occurred before these families/tribes were able to prevent each other from violating the property of others, and the same happens today. Retaliation in some form will inevitably occur, so violations of that property should be codified in law (through common law) to obviously protect against future violations.

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post your favourite quotes from pic related

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>>129247691
>Egalitarianism in any form is incompatible with private property.
I don't have a pic on hand, I might be a few words off.

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Egalitarianism is immoral, only in death can we ever be equal.

>>129246871
dennying the free market and appealing to emotion, u seem pretty much a socialist to me

>>129248274
I remember the quote, too. Upon searching it:
>Egalitarianism, in every form and shape, is incompatible with the idea of private property. Private property implies exclusivity, inequality, and difference. And cultural relativism is incompatible with the fundamental----indeed foundational----fact of families and intergenerational kinship relations. Families and kinship relations imply cultural absolutism.

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>>129233013
QUESTION:
Does Bastiat's 'Broken Windows' parable only apply to economies at full capacity, because that's when Say's Law applies?

>>129246591
I've just received 10 million from fleecing you. And I have an estate I can live in quite comfortably.
I'm willing to trade double for my neccesities and other goods.
How are you going to prevent black market, from selling to me?

Do they also get ostracized?
Cause this will lead to parallel economy.

>>129248938
Thanks senpai.

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QUESTION:
Was the 3rd Reich an example of Hoppe's "covenant society"?

>>129249358
Parallel economy of cheaters, swinders, and theives? That's fine, you can all rot together. Cheat each other I don't care, just stay far away from me.

>>129249574
It could have been. If the reich was rightfully belonging to the German people, which it was- I don't see a problem with removing the international Jew.

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>>129250088
>those eights
Can it be? Does his spirit lurks this thread...?

>>129249574
hh = heil hitler
hhh = hans hermann-hoppe
coincidence? i think not

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>>129251746
>hh = heil hitler
>hhh = hans hermann-hoppe
>coincidence?
m-mind blown...

>>129252616
>>129251746
>>129251459
It might seem edgy what I'm bout to say
Close the borders and deport all the gays
Minorities vote for bigger states
So the way to smash the state is 1488

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI
being liber/aryan/ is the way go.

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Now lets drop it like its Hoppe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-33cuur-hTc&index=15&list=PL95A66788360D91B1

>>129235745
I like your response in pic related. The objection to it, in my opinion, lies with when companies will give a shit about the enviorment.

Companies won't give a shit until there is little trees to sell. Until then, they will just rake in the money from the high demand while there is short supply. It wouldn't be until the supply is going near to nothing that some competitors will actually not have anything to sell. Until then, the business reality is that they are in a mindset to compete and dominate. If one company decides to ease up in a time where supply is diminishing, where it isn't scarce enough for other companies to miss out on supply, well you just lost a lot of money that the other company can take advantage to get ahead of you. And whose to care if no one knew it was them who ate your 3rd last chicken McNugget? In other words, to add onto your reasoning of
>Good businesses are already environmentally clean and concerned
my point is that not all businesses are good and are only looking out for their shareholders, even when if there is going to be a risk of shooting themselves. It only takes a few bad seeds to topple the house of cards.

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>>129253772
When you dump waste in a private property society it must be on your own property or another person's property being that there is no "public property" Your only choices are to destroy your own property, destroy someone else's property without their consent (they will then seek reparation for this and probably fuck you up.) or strike a deal with someone else to manage your waste.

It's very much disincentivized to pollute as the only place you could carelessly sprinkle toxic waste is your own property, making it unsellable, unuseable and no one wants to live in a toxic shithole. So it only hurts you.

>>129253697
i love this song even if the guy singing it has a bit of a weak voice, lyrics are on point

>>129255327
>When you dump waste in a private property society it must be on your own property or another person's property being that there is no "public property" Your only choices are to destroy your own property, destroy someone else's property without their consent (they will then seek reparation for this and probably fuck you up.) or strike a deal with someone else to manage your waste.

Would you say this line of reasoning will still hold for people who throw garbage out the window on the highway? I think the only reason why the highway isn't infested with trash is because of the law and the ticket that incentivizes not to do it. I get when you say
>It's very much disincentivized to pollute as the only place you could carelessly sprinkle toxic waste is your own property, making it unsellable, unuseable and no one wants to live in a toxic shithole. So it only hurts you.

But people do shit that hurts themselves in the long run and disregard the rules when no ones watching, especially when it doesn't directly affect you in the present. Hence my analogy with someone taking the third chicken nugget

>>129255583
the guys got almost 100 songs, his lyrics are hard as shit. He was on the Radical Agenda yesterday.

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>>129255957
>Would you say this line of reasoning will still hold for people who throw garbage out the window on the highway?
Yes, The guy who owns that highway wants to keep it clear so people will want to use it. He's not gonna take kindly to people you dump shit on it. Now If he can't catch polluters before they pollute i'm sure he'll likely pay people to clean his highway anyhow.

>But people do shit that hurts themselves
People that do shit to hurt themselves don’t gain the capital to destroy large pieces of land. I think it's a fair assumption that people who are self-destructive aren’t productive enough to destroy the earth.

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>>129233013
Not only is Flanders hugely pro-/lrg/, our flag even has the same colors. Just saying.

Lol check this out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo

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>>129242963
Option 1
>be given a fine
>fail to pay the fine
>be physically and violently removed and into a prison

Option 2
>dont pick up the can
>get your pay docked
>earn slightly less, no force or violence involved

You started making an argument and then killed it within the same image

>>129258425
Why didn't you just pick up the can son?

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>>129258782
Already got the achievement.

>>129257173
that was a great response, I didn't consider it like that. You seem to be very familiar with ancap. So in a related sense, how does ancap deal with monopolies without goverment intervention? I know friedman's response was to have free trade, but what if there are a competeting monopolies in other countries?

I think this question is related because lets say there is a monopoly on the roads and the guy doesn't give a shit about cleaning it up, especially because he will lose money on it to keep up.

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>>129233013
Hell yeh

>>129261818
>How does ancap deal with monopolies without goverment intervention?
Generally, we consider monopolies to be the result of government rather than from lack of it. Consider the current monopolistic situations in areas where the government highly regulates.
To look at this from an praxeological perspective: a monopoly is company which suffers from no competition. The only way to prevent competitors from entering a field is to use force, and the state is the sole agency allowed to do so. Thus, without a state, as a company becomes unchallenged and it's prices rise and quality lowers, more profit is able to be made in providing a superiour service. The 'monopoly' is forced to lower it's prices and provide better services than it's competition to maintain it's position.

To prelude any counter-arguments on a 'natural monopoly' - https://mises.org/library/myth-natural-monopoly

>>129262502
thanks bong, I'll be sure to check that link out.

While we are at it, I would like to talk about neoliberalism. It is non-existent, just like fascist it is a word with virtually no true meaning. There is not a single neoliberal thinker or school of tough or even a self-proclaimed politician who call himself this way, it was created by the left wing leaning academia just as a pejorative term.
Usually they talk about neoliberalism as a thing that began in 70’s,80’s or 90’s (depending on the place in question), but if you look to the word you will see that neo stands for new or renovated and liberalism for the philosophical school of tough that stands with freedom of action, property and liberty, and its doesn’t make any sense.
The wave that they describe of more privatization and more free market leaning economies it’s not really that much of a new wave of libertarian, they like to put Margaret Thatcher and Ronal Regan as “neoliberals” when they were too big spenders, Regan increase drastically the us debt, he was a conservative not a libertarian and Thatcher only libertarian action was against the unions, they loved to talk about freedom and the free market but it was all talk.
Here in South America, the left try to put Fernando Henrique Cardoso (was our president in late 90’s, he was involved with the 1994 “Plano Real” the plan to create the currency we use nowadays to fight against the hyperinflation set in on the country since the 80’s) who is a self-described socialist as a neoliberal just because the state was broken at the time and he privatized a few state-run companies (he was one if not the biggest creator of regulatory agencies and so on but somehow he is a “neoliberal”) or Pinochet (for all the helicopter ride jokes an dictator cannot be libertarian or stand by its principles).

>>129263086
Those government’s at their time, just looked, read a lit bit of libertarian authors, and proceeded to do the bare minimum to continuum making their country’s work. They were not a libertarian movement on government policies before those to deserve the “neo” prefix, the state interventionism, keynesianism and corporativism was well and fresh for decades (since the new deal in the Usa) until the never “expected” result of big government spending and massive debt set in, leading to decadence, inflation, stagnation and so on. Governments nowadays started going to the same route of what lead to the decline in those decades previous to “neoliberal” period (this too debunks the talk about small governments, its just like the belly of a pregnant woman, its will always growth), in the usa, in Europe, here they already took their toll, Brazil is suffering the biggest recession since 1929 with more than 15 million unemployed with the industries virtually dead and so on.

>>129263086
chill out my dude, did that irish communist/natsoc larper who uses that as a buzzword get you rustled? Just dismiss it, you don't have prove you're not a "neo-liberal" if you're not one.

>>129263086
>>129263262
Generally I would consider a 'neoliberal' to - by common definition - be close to a classical liberal in economic matters (lassez-faire) but doesn't hold the same philosophical beliefs about personal liberty.

>>129263594
I just wanted to talk about the so called neoliberalism really, didnt even saw any irish.

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yeah.

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What do you guys think is the best non-libertarian ideology?

>>129267365
Honest? Aristocracy/Religious Monarchy.

>>129249358
I need not prevent anything, I will let as much of the world know of your actions and it will be a public common knowledge fact.

Obviously a black market on my private property is unacceptable and will be met accordingly, while black markets anywhere else are equally subject to getting busted by private property owners who don't want them. We can communicate. Share private police and private militia information to purge black markets and impose equal penalties caught trading illegally in their property. Maybe put a bounty for whistleblowers to reward them.

No blood need be shed. We will harass you to the end of time in the most legal and non-violent manner, making your life a living hell as you've chosen to make it one. Anon is a thief to the tune of 10m! Do not allow him on your private property!

Of course you will be stuck in a little obscure corner somewhere paying outrageous prices. You can hide your identity sure, but that doesn't mean we can't reveal who you really are by speaking with the private property owner that a thief is among them. Or at the very least, your neighbors.

Money talks, and we they can talk to each other. There is no honor among thieves, and you can be ratted out just as easy because you've done great harm in pissing off the wrong people when they otherwise would of left you alone

>>129267365
If I was fuhrer i'd probably go full meme, be the capitalist hitler, murder many communists, democrats, build a wall and just protect sweet capistan. Market fascism? NatCap?

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Bumping.

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>>129268337
Stand Tall Ron Paul

Commie here, good luck defending your property when we get rid of the state!

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>>129268987
i will
pic related

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>>129233013

>milton friedman
>right libertarian

wasn't he for universal basic income? that shit makes communism sound like capitalism

>>129269192
Yeah, Miltion Friedman isn't an ancap, but he still was a huge advocate of (largely lassez-faire) capitalism, and his son David Friedman is.

>>129269192

he also started the school voucher shit which is basically the republican's brand of socialism. you give a poor nigger free money to go to a school of his choice

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>>129269192
THAT'S NOT FRIEDMAN THAT'S RALPH RAICO EVERYBODY MAKES THIS MISTAKE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>129233013
Literally every ancap is autistic

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>>129270788
>possible furry

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>>129270934
yeah these niggers are gonna get physically removed

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>>129270788
disgusting, not on my property. this fag can remove himself.

>>129268314
Natcap.

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daily reminder

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>>129273914
Right on.

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>>129273914
that's not how you spell anarcho-fascism

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>>129233013

In a libertarian society, can I own brown people as property?

>>129279345
A member of the human race who is completely incapable of understanding the higher productivity of labor performed under a division of labor based on private property is not properly speaking a person… but falls instead into the same moral category as an animal – of either the harmless sort (to be domesticated and employed as a producer or consumer good, or to be enjoyed as a “free good”) or the wild and dangerous one (to be fought as a pest). On the other hand, there are members of the human species who are capable of understanding the [value of the division of labor] but...who knowingly act wrongly… [B]esides having to be tamed or even physically defeated [they] must also be punished… to make them understand the nature of their wrongdoings and hopefully teach them a lesson for the future.

- Hans Hermann Hoppe

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>>129279409
Hoppe is so fucking based.

I can't wait for free labor.

>>129279409
>slavery is only ok when they're dumbasses who can't take care of themselves and are basically subhuman animals

seems reasonable enough tbqh

>>129279409
I really like this hoppe fella, he's a cool guy.

>>129238679
It's the cultural marxists and their critical theory, who attached the idea of egalitarianism to 'liberty' even though the two stand at ends.

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Is this good ?

>>129282706
Rob Murphy is an intelligent man. I haven't read it. But it should be good.

>>129233387
Walmart doesn't sell ARs anymore. They caved to bradybunch pressure.

>>129233013
You've got the wrong friedman on that there .jpg

>>129287161
is Maryland redpilled?

surely with that many niggers around they're as aware of the truth as most southern states

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Daily reminder that Nat Socs are the prols of 4chan. Right Libertarins are more industrious, organized, better armed (due to wealth), and much more intelligent.

In both physical and mental combat, we're worth at least 2.5 fascists. 4chan is a Right Libertarian board.

>>129287742
In rural areas yes, but in the biggest counties no. Montgomery, Baltimore, those places, firm blue. Ya see my whole entire thinking is that if you unplague the nation's capital you can unplague the nation. Currently Washington is a bastion of socialism and it's leaking out throughout the country. Treat the infection at it's source, ya know?

>>129288240
seems fair enough yeah

>>129288646
So my plan right, is to propagate these ideas inside of easy to digest soundbytes, images, memes, that kind of shit. The youth here no that's they're no future in maryland for them. If we can I hope to make it so that at least montgomery county doesn't go +15% blue and go 50/50, making maryland a swing state.

>tfw never see this thread up until its has a fair number of post.

>>129289071
you're doing god's work anon

bless you

>>129289071
How come there are so many Maryland anons on /pol/? I've seen many Maryland threads over the past month

>>129289352
I don't know why for certain, I think it's because maryland is such a strong state. At last years Olympics, there was a time that Maryland would've been #2 if they were their own country. It could also be the weather, where it's either the tropics or 60 degrees and raining.

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Great thread.

I got an idea - we should come up with a name for each other.
The same way commies call each other "comrade"; we should have a name

>>129292131
Patriot.

>>129294040
I like this, Patriot Anon

>>129294158
Glad you feel the same Patriot.

>>129295129
top fucking kek

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Right Wing anticapitalist Libertarianism is the true redpill.

Capitalism is for bootlicking debtor cucks. The only ones who truly benefit from Capitalism are elites born into power and the few lucky lotto winners they make false examples out of. Total isolation individualist barter-based Libertarianism and traditional family values are the ONLY path to Liberty and Justice. "Ancaps" are establishment shills trying to subvert a movement of hardworking individualists into fodder for the great globecorporatecapitalist machinery.

Wake up already

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>>129295852
>Anarcho Primitivism

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>>129294040
I like it

>>129243266
>blackmail
>voluntary exchange
what?

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>>129294040
Sounds good to me, patriot

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Just discovered this board... why McVeigh is a hero to some of you is beyond me, but I will keep my ears open to the civil discussion, enjoy the banter, and read the stuff in the general. Saying all this shit to bump

>>129298973
look up the details behind the Waco Siege and the Ruby Ridge Shooting

it will all make sense

>>129299171

Thank you for checking up. I understand both of them as outward motives for a hatred of central government, but don't you think personal turmoil and the desire to LARP a book played as much a role in his actions as those two events?

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>>129299627
oh in that case if you understand the motives, then you can pretty much just see him as the absolute madman who actually went too far

in a sense he's kind of a meme (ask about his nicknames, wish I saved them all) like Pinochet. We don't really want a dictators or terrorist bombers, what we're concerned about first and foremost is freedom, less or outright abolition of central gov, and of course physically removed commies. Not bloodshed for the sake of it

>>129233013
Why is this the first time I've stumbled across one of these threads?

I have found my people

>>129302678
welcome home patriot

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>>129233013
what about crypto-anarchism?

>I think the only reason why the highway isn't infested with trash is because of the law and the ticket that incentiveses not to do it.

Exactly. The cop is a guy paid to drive along the road and write a receipt for damages when people litter. I don't understand why he needs to be a federal employee for this. His paycheck coming from the road owner (or an association of road owners) doesn't seem to be enough of a variable change to make him incapable of performing the same service.

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Forgot to tag

>>129303334
I don't see why not