What does /pol/ think of stem cells?

>>129231902
Would you blenderize this baby if it meant you could regrow whatever tissue you needed?

It's equivalent of killing somebody to steal the organs. Answer yourself.

I'd kill 1000 just to regrow a few hairs. Who gives a fuck?

>MUH precious babies
Is the same as
>MUH precious REFUGEES who din du nutthin

>>129232867
Killing a person is not the same as killing some little fetus with the brain the size of an almond.

>>129231902

i never understood this argument from the anti-choice side

pretty much all surgery is disgusting to look at

why should a gross fetus be any different

>>129233262
Killing undeveloped baby destroys a life of human being that could be richer and more colorful than yours. Who is it to decide that the life of that human is worth less than yours sorry ass?

>>129233941
>Who is it to decide

People decide these things all the time

>>129233941
Yea because all the rich and smart people are the ones getting abortions

>>129233941
>Who is it to decide that the life of that human is worth less than yours sorry ass?
Me. Baby should have been born sooner and it could have blenderized me to fix something

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>>129234272
That's why america and whole western world is utterly and completely morally bankrupt.

>>129234489
Says the country with a 1.3 birthrate. Savior of Europe my ass. What happens when your wife gets raped and is impregnated, what then faggot?

>>129231902
>Would you blenderize this baby
No, it's a white one.

Must be a DNC fag , baby killer central . The day of wrath is coming and these people will get flat lined .

>>129234795
That's easy
The rapist should be hanged. and the child would go to orphanage. It is not guilty of the sins of his father.

>>129233941
>>129234489
You got the colorful part right since most of our abortions in the US are black. Abortion is a necessary evil.

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>>129235292
So just to be clear, you are saying that if your wife is impregnated by a rapist, you want her to have the baby?

Fetuses may be the best source of stem cells *AT THE MOMENT* but science will get to a point where they are unnecessary.

The problem is it opens doors to organ / fetus harvesting and sales which are primarily being used for Jewish death rituals and offerings to lower vibrational beings.

>>129235494
Yes, murdering innocent children is not my thing.

>>129235775
What if the rapist was an Arab Muslim?

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>>129233262
>It's a small thing, so it's not really a thing
>It's only just barely a thing so it doesn't count as a thing really

>>129235775
You gotta draw the line at some point slav

>>129236396
>It's a small thing, so it's not really a thing

Weeb degenerate strawmanning

>>129236126
>moving goalposts
And then you ask: "what if he had aids and was retarded"
Again i am all for hanging the motherfucker and his kind. I hate his ideology and everything he stands for. It doesn't change the fact that child is innocent. He will grow in my culture, among other poles, he will be educated how to be decent human being and he or she will have happy life.

>>129236621
No he doesn't, he loves the idea of another man's baby inside his wife's tummy for 9 months. Makes him feel so good inside

>>129236797
Answer the question.

>What if the rapist was an Arab Muslim?

>>129236818
It's not like i can't have another baby of mine with her, you are yet to move the goalposts.

>>129236396
when u finish on ur bfs face do u start crying kuz u just murdered millions of semens??

>>129236987
I answered your question. In normal country arab would be executed and the child would live.

>implying thats a baby

>>129231902
no. stem cells can be harvested from the umbilical cord anyway, and if need be from healthy individuals who consent to it.

>>129237061
>you are yet to move the goalposts.

I don't think you know what that means, or you're purposefully using it incorrectly

>>129237211
Are you an atheist?

>>129233097
wat

that's some nigger tier logic. how does refugees that want to conquer Europe compare to babies?

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>>129231902

Yes, let us become a society of vampires who take the sweet little innocent baby fetuses and inject ourselves with them for life benefits.
We shall become the lizard people.....

>>129233941
It's life isn't richer or more colorful if I abort it.

>>129237280
No really, you are yet to ask me what i would do if the pregnancy would endanger my wives life or her ability to have other children.

Anyway, i would never let my woman be raped and i would never be with a woman that would get herself raped. I am not living in cuck country.

>>129237094
semen =/= a human fetus
you're an actual idiot.

If you think this is real, you're a fucking retard.

I am not a jew, so abortion isnt my thing

>>129237788
why do you think it's not? you seem like the retard here.

>>129231902
>Would you blenderize this baby if it meant you could regrow whatever tissue you needed?
No i'd cultivate stem cells.... far more ethical.

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>>129237445
How's Lauren doing?

>>129237257
>Implying a baby is a fully grown human

>>129231902
This will be irrelevant soon, because you can make stem cells from adult cells. They're becoming more and more flexible, too.

They're actually better than infant stem cells, because you get genetically identical results (no rejection risk)

Downside is we haven't worked out how to make ALL the types of stem cell yet, just a few. You basically have to reverse the specialization process on normal cells.

>>129233262
>Eating a big orange is not the same as killing a small one.

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>>129231902
>Blenderize
You dumb shit. Stem cell researchers aren't going around and specifically killing children you mong, they are simply taking advantage of the abortion system that was already in place.

Besides that fact, you don't need to do such stupid shit to harvest Stem cells.

>>129231902
Probably a niglet so idc

>>129238182
>implying teenager is a fully grown human

>>129238341
>potential is the same as actual

>>129238457
>Implying I'm not OK with murdering the majority of teenagers

>>129238457
Are you an athiest?

>>129238079
what are you even talking about?

seriously America, this thread is making you look pretty damned retarded.

>>129238342
he wasn't even inferring that's what's happening you illiterate bird brain. he asked if it's a valid reason to have an abortion.

>>129238557
I am agnostic, not that it matters though.

>>129238507
>a baby isn't an actual human
when does it become an actual human then genius?

>>129238564
That's some nigger tier logic right there

>>129238696
>>a baby isn't an actual human

When did I say that dumbass? Please point out exactly where I said that a baby wasn't a human. You are one of the stupidest people on this board.

>>129231902

it's a moot point since adult stem cells are a thing. Why wouldn't you extract your own stem cells and use those?

Also shoulder pain is gonna be tricky regardless of how you want to do things, since it's probably a problem with the capsule itself.

>>129231902
Idk why this is a huge problem - do you really think it's our demographic who are having abortions? Better to keep their population down. Ideally abortion should be provided along with chemical sterilization.

Pick your battles.

>>129231902

Thats not the only way to procure stem cells. Stupid burger.

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>>129238564
That is nigger tier logic. No one goes out and has abortions to sate a desire for advancement in Stem research. You don't even need to abort to get Stem cells.

>>129233348
Because its fucking moving you fucking retard. Hearts and lungs dont move there arms and legs when you touch them, and they dont gasp for air and cry when you pull them out of the body

>>129238919
>>129238507
>potential is the same as actual
you're implying a "potential human" is not an "actual human".

unless you're retarded and don't understand the words you're using don't try to pretend you didn't say what you said.

>you're one of the stupidest people on this board
good thing you know me, anonymous so well and use words that don't actually exist as an adjective then isn't it. Jesus Christ you're an idiot.

>>129238985
He didn't say it was, euronigger

>>129238998
If there is technology to create stem cells without abortion then i am all for it. It's the killing babies part that disgusts me personally.

>>129238182
>implying abortion is murder and miscarriage is manslaughter

>>129238998
durrrr, i didn't say that did I. learn to read the thread. I've never seen so many actual mouth breathing tier Americans in one place.

here you go, you idiot.
>>129237265

now because you and your lard ass American brethren can't into reading comprehension let me help you out. you misunderstood what OP was asking, and whilst i don't agree with what he's asking i at least understood and acknowledged the meaning of it.

you on the other hand assumed he said people go around snatching CHILDREN to "blenderize" into stem cells.

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>>129239354
>you're implying a "potential human" is not an "actual human".

Nope, I'm not implying that at all. And yes, you are one of the dumbest people on this board. Every one of your arguments has been a strawman or you just purposefully misinterpreting what the other person has said in an attempt to weaken their argument. So again, how's Lauren doing?

>>129239699
miscarriage is tragedy and abortion is murder
It's the difference like between having car accident and bunch of niggers riding into the crowd yelling allahu ackbar

>>129231902
Uh, if the fetus is already dead, why the hell should it matter?

>>129239930
So vehicular manslaughter and murder? You can paint it anyway you want but that doesn't change what it is.

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>>129239812
That's exactly what he said
>>129231902

You are shit at inference. The dumbass OP wouldn't make this thread if he knew that you could make Stem cells without the tissue of dead babies, because the baby doesn't need to die.

>>129239904
my sides are in orbit. did a Finnish man steal your "Lauren"? is this why you're acting like you know who i am in order to call me one of the "stupidest" (sic) person on the board?

i legitimately have no idea who Lauren is you gigantic fucking autist, nor do i give a fuck about whatever childish and cringe worthy vendetta you have.

feel free at any moment to make an argument as to why abortion is ok.

Honestly speaking the whole abortion shit, pregnancy and giving a birth is messed up. Every human being should be just sterilized. Artificial wombs can't come soon enough.

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>>129239648
It's more efficient to gather it from adults, the dead babies meme is just a meme resulting from the discovery of stem cells.

>>129233941
Essentially retard. developed human > baby of any kind, including non-developed fetuses, any day. Just waiting the little shit-stain to finish the 20 year long tutorial just so you can then flip a coin to find out whether or not they're going to be worth anything just isn't worth it.

>colorful and richer

Go back to redd it. No, in fact, just hang yourself.

>>129240257
asking if they'd have an abortion to harvest stem cells doesn't infer at all knowledge of being able to harvest them in other ways. you're an idiot.

>>129234253
A lot of the rich came from nothing dipshit. They practically run the country

>>129240382
You know what I'm talking about.

>>129240563
>sub human country sees no value in offspring
i hope you enjoy being cucked by Mohammed you nihilistic edgelord.

>>129240708
enlighten me at ANY moment, I'm simply dying to hear about your tumblr drama burgerlord.

>>129240563
>developed human > baby
So i can assume you are developed human? I kinda doubt that but anyway, you were once undeveloped, would it pleased you if your mother killed you when you were undeveloped?
Also you don't have to waith 20 years, if you are poor fuck then just give the child to orphanage, there is plenty of people that can't have their own babies and would gladly take yours.

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>>129231902

tastes like chicken

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>>129240595
Why ask the question when one iota of research would make your question pointless?

>>129231902
I just cleared a deer off the road near my house, I feel oddly disturbed at the act and saddened for the loss even after seeing reams of gore footage and enjoying venison. I don't think I want to be in the same building as the people that handle abortions.

>/pol/: We have to save the white race by any means! Have more children!
>also /pol/: I don't see why killing babies is bad.
Can you guys just get your shit straight and back ONE up? You can't want to save a race of people but also advocate killing the means of saving it for your own personal and temporary gain.
If the baby is a nigger, then this doesn't apply to my point but killing babies is still wrong.

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>>129241245
you want me to research who Lauren is? what in the living Christ are you even talking about? yeah I'll just write in Google "Lauren" and figure out whatever autistic head canon you have going on means.

pic related, i imagine you must look like this and your Lauren got a good dicking from a Finn.

>>129241439
Doctors and nurses have to deal with people dying in horrific circumstances at the very least during residency. It just be what it do.

>>129241537
This
Also if you consider the scale of this atrocity you would know that it's even worse than any war since ww2.

>>129241537
this.

i don't know what's going on with the other burgers in this thread but Jesus fucking christ are they stupid. i suppose school is out or something.

>>129233941
You destroy billions of potential lives every time you fap to muh waifu.
chances are good that one of them could have been a another Einstein

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>>129241670
Research Stem cells you inept shit.

>>129235775
a undeveloped body without a functioning brain is not a child

sadly /pol/ is far too dumb (on average) to discuss these topics

>>129242218
why would i need to if I've already said several times i know you don't need to abort babies to harvest stem cells? i said it before you did even, so literally wat.

>>129237061
wow, an actual cuck, and from the country i least expected

>>129241776
Eh, it's a cherry moment, I think, not like I cried over the road hazard and meat, but it was definitely an unexpected feeling. Morally, ethically, and personally, abortion is destruction of human potential to sate immediate comfort, it should be used as a solution sparingly, if at all.

>>129242509
the one burger who thought the gif in the op is fake.
the other one crying about a Lauren. what in the hell.

>>129237445
both are basically parasites

>>129242103
1 Those are not fetuses, they have half of full human DNA
2 Even without masturbation you have nocturnal emission so no matter what you do your sperm cells will die, same with your skin cells and in fact all cells in your body
3 sperm cells dying have nothing to do with killing healthy babies with full unique human DNA and whole decades of lifetime before them

>>129234489
Morals don't exist retard. Way to be a dinosaur

>>129242381
both those terms have the capacity for endless subjective redefinition
>>129243048
human society is founded on mutually parasitic behavior creating a semi-functional symbiosis out of the community, the relevance of your point?

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>>129231902
>Would you blenderize this baby
STEM CELL THERAPY DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!

>>129242381
A healthy developing fetus will have full functioning brain, only thing you need to do is to not kill it.

>>129241053
No one would be minding anything at age 1<. And "minding" from the standpoint of a 20 year old is irrelevant.

>if you are poor fuck then just give the child to orphanage, there is plenty of people that can't have their own babies and would gladly take yours.

What type of parents are raising the child is completely irrelevant. Why the fucking are you even bringing something like this up, you're clearly in your own subjective bubble.
>>129240800
>literal t. The cross-bred mongrel eu Bootlicker
I see you're not very well familiarized with politics in slavic countries. Roaches know to stay silent here. We don't treat them in the same backboneless the West does.

Am I the only one pro-choice person that doesn't give a shit if abortion is murder?
Fetuses are subhumans anyway

Scientists have been figuring out how to get stem cells from adults. Fetus stem cells are old news

>>129243048
>seeing your own offspring as a parasite
good ol' boomer sentiment right there.

the thing with having a kid is that whilst yes, they depend on you exclusively for the beginnings of their life but if you raise them right their benefits far outweigh that.

- preserving your genetics
- preserving your values
- preserving your culture
- giving you motivation not to be a fuck up yourself
- giving your wife a reason to not fuck around if she's busy with the kids
- enjoying the role of fatherhood and ignoring jew media that has tried for decades to dismantle it

versus

- giving up on your country and allowing Jamal to do all of the above instead of you

i know which i would choose personally.

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>>129243430
Excuse me? You mentioned 20 years
>Just waiting the little shit-stain to finish the 20 year long tutorial just so you can then flip a coin to find out whether or not they're going to be worth anything
Are you actually mentally handicapped?

>>129243725
but jamal already has 5 kids for every kid I will make, how does making baby preserve my culture

>>129243725
You forgot about
>not dying as old poor and lonely geezer that no one gives flying fuck about

>>129243430
I'm not a native Finn, but Finns are based.

regardless, you're pretty fucking retarded if you think Bulgaria would be safe when practically the rest of Europe is committing suicide en masse. you'll be surrounded by shitskins and have nothing to your name because you're a pathetic retard that thinks having children is worthless. it will be easy for them to take you out because you don't even bother to help bolster your country's population.

>>129243972
>I'm not even going to try because x
RIP Sweden.

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>>129231902
>implying stem cells used for most research come from 3 month old fetuses and not 5 day old embryos made up of 100 odd cells they make themselves in a lab

american christcuck education

>>129243090
It doesn't matter if it has 23 or 46 chromosomes.
Both have the same potential to be a human person and non of them is far enough developed to have something like a consciousness. It's just a buch of cells. One LOOKS more human than the other but non of them is.
>>129243376
A sperm will have a functioning brain,too when you let it impregnate an egg cell

>>129243972
r v k strategy, Jamal lets the world raise his kids and beats out the bits he doesn't like, they're nothing more than slaves to whatever cultural brutality makes them and frees them from their parent once they reach majority, if they reach majority, you raise one to three that are capable of being prime rational thinkers and looking at the world they're a part of critically and deciding what role to play in that world

this last generation has shown us what happens when we let society's meanderings shape our children, very few of us have escaped that mental slavery, not all even fully intact

the answer, if you give a damn about the outcomes and share classical western ideals, is more than obvious

I personally see nothing wrong with not having children. It's just lifestyle choice. You want to be by yourself then that's perfectly fine. You don't want children, that's also fine. Just don't go fucking and then killing babies.

Don't be a fucking dimwitted animal. There is 100% method of contraception and that's just not having sex.

>>129231902
In our world, sure.

In God's world, never, and I'd slaughter and cast the people who caused this into the eternal lake of fire.


What world do you guys want? A world of man, or of God? A world where there's a chance to reign in Hell, or a world were everyone serves in Heaven? A world of evil or good?

For some reason it always goes back to this question for me. I want one, but feel my soul pulling towards the other. I wish to solve this dilemma within myself so I can begin my quest in either direction. This constant state of watching, waiting, being in purgatory with a Hellish inclination is wearing on me.

It's inclined towards Hell due to the worlds imbalance towards my people, white males. To rise out of it, I must enter the depths of Hell to conquer those that infringe and try to oppress us. Is conquering Hell worth it?

Yeah, it is. I know our side is right. I know we are the best. I believe in us. I know what is right, and that is to conquer the hordes of barbarians and invaders and bend them to our will, to make them live in our newfound lands by our rules, following our customs and laws. Make them all obey and serve in Heaven to the One true God. Us. Should they refuse, to Hell the heathens will be sent.

>>129243376
>the only think you need to do is allow it to live inside of you and grow for nine months while draining you of nutrients and exacting a terrible physiological toll on your body.

Fixd4u>>129243430

>>129244641
>A sperm will have a functioning brain
Are you one of those retarded flatearthers?

>>129231902

Yup.

Only blue-pilled boomer cuckservatives are in love with fetuses and want a bajillion nogs and hispanic kids in our streets...

>>129236396
>>129236621
>>129237511

HURRR DURRR MUH SANCTITY OF LIEF!!! HURR I STANDZ WITH ISRAEL!!! HURRR LET'S GIBS OUR PENSIONS TO BILLIONAIRES COS THEY DESRVE IT AND ONE DAY MY GREAT GREAT GRANDKIDS MIGHT ALSO BE FAMOUSWRESETLERS OR NASCARS ON T.V.!!!!!!!!

-t. cuckservatives on /pol/

>>129237829

jews hate abortion you thick shit. No abortion= global overpopulation and the elimination of the white race.

>>129245122
>the only think you need to do is allow it to live inside of you and grow for nine months while draining you of nutrients and exacting a terrible physiological toll on your body.
Who told you those bullshit? Seriously are all americans this uneducated? Woman body was designed to carry babies, no multiple bebies. Pregnancy is natural act. Sure it's inconvenient, but that's about it. The biggest toll on my wife would be mental if we decide to kill the baby.

>>129245139
continuity is a hell of a drug, are you really yourself, or just a pair of zygotes sharing accommodations?

>>129231902

Personally I wouldn't but you don't need a whole baby/fetus to harvest stem cells.

You can grow them in vitro in a dish

>>129245691
>kill the baby

you mean remove a lump of cells from her uterus

>>129245710
For all we know the universe might be just a simulation and everything is pointless. We are talking here about things we can observe and feel with our own senses. I stand by my stance that no sperm cell is not a baby but fetus is and killing it is just as immoral or even more immoral than killing grown man.

Yaaas https://youtu.be/7P2fJ4iuxTo

>>129246074
Technically you are lump of cells. Would killing you would be immoral?

>bundle of cells with nervous system equivalent to an insect that dies if it's removed from its host
>totally a real human bean

>>129246834
yes it is, if you let it develope it will have arround 80 years of lifespan and maybe have kids if it's own.

>>129246074
you're just a lump of cells, and a kraut to boot. we should remove you.

>>129246173
If we are in a simulation, that simulation has or previously had a purpose, and if it continues to have a purpose then we have a good chance of being observed externally or at least being tagged by some sorting intelligence working alongside or within the simulation. Whether the wider environment outside ours is also a simulation is outside reasonable parameters and only bears consideration if the priors are firmly established.

Things that we observe, feelings are a form of low-level observation and all human experience may as well be called feelings, proper, regardless since they all arise within the same neurochemistry- there is no true differentiation between the intuition of logic and embedded instinct in my view- that said, wasting sperm or eggs is built into our biology, we have no emotional attachment to the components, but wasting children has been observed to be a negative impactor on our behavioral functions as people. Evolution has told us it's not good fitness to waste to product, I'm inclined to give selection pressure due respect.

>>129246631
>>129246074
It depends on whether his fitness is enhanced by his survival compared to our gain in fitness by his removal, whichever way the ratio stacks is implied to be the most moral choice and in some cases his death may increase his genetic fitness.

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>>129233941
Poland is the only moral country in Europe, thank you for standing up for Good

>>129246834
at what stage? 12 weeks? how long does a baby be a "bundle of cells" for? this is the dumbest pro abortion argument that always gets flung around. how blue pilled you are.

>>129247380

>being pro-life
>claiming to be redpilled

(clears throat) HAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHA

>>129247380
Differentiation of cell groups and anchoring to uterine wall? After that chimerism is already taking place.

>>129233941
>life of human being that could be richer and more colorful

A life in which she gets BLACKED

I would consider abortion in only 2 cases
>genetic illnesses
If life gonna be worse than death for a kid then it's best to let it go, it's basically euthanasia and should not be limited to fetuses
>life of the child endangers life of the mother
Both of those could be fixed by artificial wombs.

>>129232867
>It's equivalent of killing somebody to steal the organs
...So, yes?

>>129248046
As a pole would never understand your westerners memes.

>>129247880
What isn't redpilled about realizing that abortion is modern times human sacrifice to the God Moloch to receive his blessing of financial success?

It's wrong, because as a man in the image of God you should embrace the burden of that child and continue to grow your affluence, which eliminates the need for Molochs blessing in the first place.

But I bet you're own of those real cool dudes who understands the world and castrated yourself so you'd never be burdened by a being of your likeness. Animal.

>>129248305
the grand irony is that with gene editing, we can ostensibly remove congenital illnesses from the future generations- will it be used with that pure motive in mind? is it even possible when we can decide what sort of mental traits a child will inherit or be programmed with?

no, we're doomed

>>129248305
>If life gonna be worse than death for a kid then it's best to let it go, it's basically euthanasia and should not be limited to fetuses

You can predict the next ~90 years of a life?

You can be born in a box and die in a castle, and vice versa.

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>>129248773
it's all about how many lives you're willing to end to better yours, that's not genetic outside of being talented in emotional jamming, having enough abstract intelligence to spot the loopholes, and lacking empathy to restrain yourself unless it's in your benefit to fall back on e-jamming

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Is the reason circumcision is mandatory in the West .Million dollar market for the plastic surgery business.

>>129239050

it's not senient in any way, and most research suggests a fetus wouldn't be able to feel pain until at least 23-24 weeks, which is the beginning of the 3rd trimester when virtually no one would get an abortion anyway unless there were some sort of dire circumstances. your ethical argument would better protect a farm animal (which i'm sure you have no problem slaughtering) sooner than it would affect a moving clump of brainless cells.

>>129249365
>first two-thirds are the break-in period, no refunds after that
66.6% sounds like a decent benchmark to draw the murder-line

>>129249365
well, grown up people are also not sentient when asleep and they don't feel pain when under anesthesia, doesn't mean it's moral to butcher them then.

>>129233941

who isnt to decide, who gives a shit

>>129250284
some would say yes and make efforts to prey on them then

>>129245230
I used to be for abortion on pragmatic grounds (it's like voluntary eugenics). Now I'm pragmatically against it. Pro-choice is setting a poisonous feminist precedent, we're giving women too much leverage politically and what are they doing with it? They're using it to erode tradition and topple the foundations of our civilisation. We let them kill their kin on a whim. They're like animals left to their own devices and we need to subjugate them soon or we'll face extinction. We unironically need to be more muslim, oppressing women is the one thing they do right. What I'm saying is it doesn't matter how many niglets are born in our countries if our countries have already been transformed socio-politically and psycho-spiritually beyond recognition - the untermensch can be physically removed. However, if we trash tradition, we lose it forever. There is no implement we can use to fix the intangible - morality, tradition and attitudes, etc. We lose that, and we might as well let the pakis have it.

>>129250326
>who gives a shit
Those words describe morals of westerners perfectly. No wonder muslims hates you and want murder you all. No wonder breivik is in comfy prison for few years instead of hanging on a tree.

>>129240706
>A lot of the rich came from nothing dipshit.
not anymore

>>129231902
You can graft stemcells from blood cells. This question is outdated.

>>129247900
so pretty much the entire duration of the pregnancy?

>>129251821
IIRC, full differentiation takes several weeks

what I think people really need to realize is that the embryo, despite having a nice controlled life support unit all set up, still has to fight tooth and nail to keep its residence- that's why pregnancy is so inconvenient for the mother and why chimerism takes place, the mother's body is almost constantly attempting to suppress the child and terminate it and the child's body is using every weapon in its genetic arsenal to stave that off long enough to come to term

the fact that manufactured chemical abortion methods still have failure rates is testament to this active contest

there's no real reason beyond the obvious outliers that people like to contort into slippery slopes to abort a child other than convenience of the mother

society has survived generations of unwanted children given up to adoption or completely abandoned in the streets, this new trend of reducing orphans and unwanteds is massively aberrant

>>129231902
This fetus has a bigger brain than a cat, just saying..it may even dream.