Climate change thread

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>>129225113

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Trumps voter demographic is redneck and hillbillies they don't finish grade 6 and go on working as truckers.

What would you expect from people like that?

>>129225113
There is no coincidence that the average temperature in the Northern Hemisphere has been increasing since Trump announced the U.S. pulling out of the Paris climate agreement. It's literally HIS FAULT!!!!

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>>129226096
Exactly, they are dumfucks being manipulated by rich liberal Jews. Hitler wouldn't stand for this.

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>>129226413
the term is "useful idiots"

>>129225113
I don't give a fuck about the weather. You're just not used to leaving the air-conditioned basement.

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Drumpf supporters belong on pleddit

>>129225113
Holy fuck R A R E

>>129225640
I want your time machine

scientists can't predict the weather a week from now with any accuracy

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>>129225113
>googles georgia weather
> its 75 degrees

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>>129227041
No, you are just mixed with nigger and spics and adapted to it.

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>>129225113
ITT dumb fucks

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>>129227080
These threads. Can you explain the difference between yourself and this young lad?

>>129227299
gratz on being the dumbest person on pol

>>129227577
how is this supposed to be challenge for explanations about current climate change?

>>129227659
If I came home and saw that I would immediately abort my child while he was still laying on the carpet

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>>129226096

I think it's more a matter of self preservation.

Many jobs
>their jobs
>the only ones they're qualified to get

Will get phased out when green tech hits. What the government needs to do is facilitate an orderly transition, to ensure that these people can look forward to different employment.

We only have one planet. I really don't think people cross their arms and say "Nuh uh, climate change is wrong, science if wrong, the Bible is right, that's that". They are just protecting their lifestyles.

Get everyone comfortable & able to work, there would be very little debate, it would simply be acceptable as fact and people could finally work together to get on track faster.

With the US pulling out of Paris accord, that sets back the planet, but I don't think we will kill...everything...before we figure a way out.

David Suzuki has been talking about this since the 70s/80s, noone listened. We were all very comfortable. We still are very comfortable, truth be told.

Couple of degrees warmer, all the bees dead, water level rises, people are going to get shook tf up & get on board.

>But only if gubmint promises potato heads some kind of employment or welfare

>>129225113
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>>129226413
ur painfully retarded

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>>129227299
skip to 8:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEylCS6-hBE

>>129227366
it's hot for me spic, it's late now so it's little more bearable. I'm not even fat, my friend told me the same thing too.

>>129226413
>only looking at the past 40 years
i hope you're kidding

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>>129228305

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>>129225113
Thats just the salt

>>129225113
> I CAN LITERALLY FEEL GLOBAL WARMING

unless you live in the middle east or africa, saying this means you're a pussy

>>129228013
learn how to read a graph you dumb kraut. Current temps are trending down and if you look you notice a pattern?

nobody looks far back at temp fluctuations. LOOK AT IT! in 100,000 years we will be in pre ice age temps again.

Fuck I can't believe I even have to explain this shit. get educated.

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Oh, it's this guy again. Why can't you address picture related? Why can't you explain why temperatures at the beginning and middle of the 20th century are continuously adjusted downward?

Why did James Hansen and the GISS, which James Hansen led from 1982 to 2013, change the temperature record between publishing graphs in 1981 and 2002? Why did James Hansen and the GISS, which James Hansen led from 1982 to 2013, change the temperature record again between publishing graphs in 2002 and 2014?

But you can't answer these questions, so you'll call it a low quality graph and pretend this factual evidence of temperature rewriting doesn't exist, because you're a paid shill. You'll ignore the fact that the further back we go before 1980, the further down Hansen and the GISS adjusts the records to show more significant warming trends, because you're a paid shill.

Maybe it's difficult for you to deal with factual repudiations of the data sets you're paid to promote. Maybe it's easy, because you're a paid shill.

>>129225113
Sounds more like you have an STD. Shouldn't have touched that T*rk mate.

>>129228976
but we know what caused this cycle in the past and these mechanisms are a.) clearly not at play right now and b.) act on much longer timescales (they can't produce 1°C of warming in a few decades)

>current temps are trending down
where did you get that idea from?

>>129225113
South ossetia is independent.
Now you have not only your balls but also your butt burning.

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Does anyone have a chart of sun activity in relation to global temperatures?

This is literally something I've never EVER seen suggested

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I can't believe money grubbing "scientists" are still trying to restrict innocent chemical and oil corporations with some phony claims of "melting ice caps", "rising sea levels" and "rising sea temperatures".
Not on my watch!

>>129227670
its all based on computer models. the weather a week from now or the climate 60 years from now

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>>129228909
Your body is adapted to. you are not feeling it.
>>129228976
no they are not trending down, there is no longer patter, it's humans now.

>>129229047
I don't know, one guys made up shitty graphs because he was a lazy cunt and suddenly everyone else is wrong too?
I wish I was getting paid for spreading the truth

>>129229201
Never had sex in my life.

>>129229470
yes, see >>129226671 I'll post one more

>>129225113
Well, I would say maybe pursue therapy, but they'd probably just egg you on. Things have a way of getting under a certain type of person's skin and taking over in an unhealthy way.
Kinda like hypochondria. Or paranoia.
The only person you have control over is you. That's a fact.

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>>129229470


you can show that current temperature increase isn't consistent with solar activity with a few relatively simple observations:

>Vertical temperature pattern
If the sun were to blame, we would expect to see warming in the entire vertical extension of the atmosphere. What really happens however is that the Stratosphere is cooling, not warming

>Horizontal temperature pattern
If the sun were to blame, we would expect to see warming concentrated around the Equator and the tropics, with decreasing rates of rises in the higher latitudes. What really happens however is that the strongest warming is actually detected in the extreme northern latitudes (with the Arctic warming 2 to 3 times faster than the rest of the planet)

>Diurnal temperature asymmetry
If the sun were to blame, we would expect to see diurnal maximum temperatures to rise faster than diurnal minimum temperatures. What really happens however is the other way around - diurnal minimum temperatures are rising faster than diurnal maximum temperatures

>>129225113
looks at temperatures in the last 10k years looks normal
5000 years, nothing unusual
1000 years, still fine
500 year, wait something unusual is happenning
100 years OMG WE ARE ALL GOAN DIE
i fully expect us to pump more money into stoping global warming and at some point scientists, when its painfully obvious that its trending down we will have the greatest patting on the back in human history

>>129229637
no it isn't. Climate change is predicted based on carbon dating

>>129230177
>one guys made up shitty graphs
>James Hansen
>GISS
>Acting like one of the most influential climate change scientists and NASA's climate change department are just a couple irrelevant and lazy nobodies
You are this desperate.

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>>129230452
Weather in the past wasn't always great either and earth didn't look the same. the problem is that now it changing extremely fast and is human caused, when the natural causes should be cooling it.

I WANT ANOTHER ICE AGE

>>129230630
Yes, there faggots in NASA too.
also give me link and sources, they may just be based on different research.

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>>129225113
Conservatives believing that the climate isn't changing is a myth perpetuated by liberals.

We just don't think the solution to the problem is any of the following:
- Carbon taxes ($$$)
- Government spending on tech that doesn't address the existing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere while costing more money than they're worth (solar panels, etc.) ($$$)
- Government spending on research into aforementioned tech ($$$)
- Etc.

Unfortunately global warming has just become nothing more than a racket for liberal politicians and academics.

>>129229509

I know right? Fucking shameless. They should all rot in gaol, the lot of them.

>>129227366
Can confirm

SOURCE: I live in Winder, GA

>>129231108
Conservatives deny human caused climate change and scale of it. Drumpf denies it, Rand Paul denies it. I don't think that Carbon tax is solution either.
you are better of spending money on tech than nigger and refugees.

>>129225640
Wew ima moving to estonia

>>129225113
>First warm day in two months
>HELP I'M BURNING

Fucking cold weather faggots need to move to Antarctica.

>>129231434
>you are better of spending money on tech than nigger and refugees.
There is plenty of money to go around in this scam, so you can rest assured that open borders/globalization is yet another liberal idea they are pushing by using global warming as an excuse.

Here are some quotes from an article written by one of the most famous climate change activists, titled "What is Blocking Sustainability?
>The required unprecedented level of mutual trust among nations and the loss of some national sovereignty represents two such major stumbling blocks...
>the loss of some national sovereignty [is required]

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>>129230846
i don't think we are having much of a impact on it desu, i do want for us to move away from fosil fuel because breathing in all this shit is very bad for your health but at the same time i dont want autistic wind/solar farms everyhere the are a waste of space and super expensive for what they produce, we should just go nuclear

>>129225113
It's called the Sun, faggit. If you didn't spend your life scared to leave the house, then the Sun wouldn't be so devastating to you.

>>129231434
And to add another thing, yes they are spending money on tech.. but they're spending money on the wrong tech in order to line their pockets.

Instead of attacking the alleged problem (carbon dioxide, etc. in the atmosphere, which they claim has already gone past the point of no return) with new tech, they keep investing into technology like solar panels and electric cars which will have near-zero impact on the existing problem.

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Holy fucking shit

Explain how a carbon tax will fix or even significantly slow global warming, or fuck off already

You people are astoundingly good at missing the point, good god almighty

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>>129231980
christ on a cracker - if only someone had checked on that!

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>>129225113
>The 97% “consensus” study, Cook et al. (2013) has been thoroughly refuted in scholarly peer-reviewed journals, by major news media, public policy organizations and think tanks, highly credentialed scientists and extensively in the climate blogo-sphere. The shoddy methodology of Cook’s study has been shown to be so fatally flawed that well known climate scientists have publicly spoken out against it,
>The ‘97% consensus’ article is poorly conceived, poorly designed and poorly executed. It obscures the complexities of the climate issue and it is a sign of the desperately poor level of public and policy debate in this country [UK] that the energy minister should cite it." - Mike Hulme, Ph.D. Professor of Climate Change, University of East Anglia (UEA)
>The following is a list of 97 articles that refute Cook’s (poorly conceived, poorly designed and poorly executed) 97% “consensus” study. The fact that anyone continues to bring up such soundly debunked nonsense like Cook’s study is an embarrassment to science.
>Cook et al. (2013) attempted to categorize 11,944 abstracts of papers (not entire papers) to their level of endorsement of AGW and found 7930 (66%) held no position on AGW. While only 65 papers (0.5%) explicitly endorsed and quantified AGW as +50% (Humans are the primary cause). Their methodology was so fatally flawed that they falsely classified skeptic papers as endorsing AGW, apparently believing to know more about the papers than their authors. Cook et al.’s author self-ratings simply confirmed the worthlessness of their methodology, as they were not representative of the sample since only 4% of the authors (1189 of 29,083) rated their own papers and of these 63% disagreed with their abstract ratings.
http://climatechangedispatch.com/97-articles-refuting-the-97-consensus/

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>>129231870
We, right-wingers need to start using global warming politically too then, immigration is just causing more overpopulation and more global warming.
denying that it's human caused and or denying it completely is what leftist want convservcuck like Drumpf to do. right-wingers should argue about solution, not deny the cause like retards. but they won't, because they are bunch of sellout and shills.

>>129232465
i agree with this. Right-wingers have been sold the idea the only solution to overpopulation is white genocide. Because of this, they are now protecting the minorities furiously without even noticing it.

>>129232342
if the point of your post is that the trend lines diverge, take another look and notice the half century of sustained higher-than-normal solar irradiance.
if you have a pan on the stove, and you turn off the burner, is the pan still hot?

>>129232402
I never made 97% argument, appeal to the majority is a fallacy.

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>>129225113
>Climate change
lol who cares

>>129233399
non-Arab rape babies

>>129227299
Right on bro, very true.

Here's based Bill Whittle with some thoughts and evidence the globalists and cucks don't like to hear.
https://youtu.be/v_RuverrEZ4

>>129231084
The sources are James Hansen and the GISS (of NASA), as clearly shown in the image I posted. All three graphs are based on meteorological stations, as clearly shown in the image I posted.

1981 graph pulled from page 961, Figure 3, bottom of the graph: https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1981/1981_Hansen_ha04600x.pdf

I cannot find the publication containing the full 2002 graph, only publications with graphs beginning in 1950. It may no longer be hosted on the GISS website.

For 2014, there is no need to find a publication as it is quite similar to 2017. This makes it very easy to compare the claimed temperature records in 1981 versus today.

2017 data here: https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/

As is typical of the fervently religious, if the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.

>>129232829
see here >>129230397

>>129234404
I know that it's from GISS, just couldn't find the graphs themselves.

Where the graph in the first link? did I miss something?

There is land only and land and ocean data in the later link.

Show me the exact same graphs that you posted.

>>129228256

None of what you said was right lol

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>think about climate change and live in coastal area
>remember of global agenda to defreeze antarctica to find the maze and uncover the christ/antichrist

its not stopping boys the jews are really gon have it their way

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>>129225640
Can't wait for tropical Canada

>>129231434
We are better leaving the money in the hands of the taxpayer and not spend millions guilt tripping people about driving cars and having the AC on.

>>129225113
Kill yourself to make Trump a murderer.

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>>129235445
I told you, page 961, Figure 3. It is stretched to make the Δ°C scale consistent across the three different years in the first image I posted, but the data itself is unchanged.

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>>129225113
Hey OP I just turned on my air conditioning unit and no longer feel any warn, maybe you have a fever or something I hear faggots gets then all the time

>>129236300
So isn't it based on different research?
also are graphs measuring exactly the same thing the same way?

>>129236617
Fuck air conditioning, i shouldn't be on fire naturally.
I haven't been sick for 10 years now. I only have allergies sometimes.

>>129236933
The full explanation for the graph is on the same page. If you don't want to read things which challenge your ideology, that is your sin.

>>129237490
1. I'm tool lazy right now
2. that's only one graphs, I'm interested it's relation to other graphs on the gif

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>>129226024

>tfw no sea level drop maps

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>>129225113

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>>129226096

>>129232837
>I never made 97% argument, appeal to the majority is a fallacy.
I'm merely pointing out that you are in fact a faggot, text and pic are for everyone else to read.
>>129236300
>implying op is able to read a graph
>>129236933
Who is using a trendline like this >>129227080
to fit his bias, if not a fag?

>>129227366
DUMB FUCK AMERICAS
CLIMATE CHANGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FUCKING TEMP OF AN AREA ON ONE DAY.
HOLY MOTHER FUCK

>>129238408
>didn't read OP's post

>>129233814
this video is so embarrassing
not only does he get basic facts wrong, he can't even represent his own misleading graphics correctly

>>129238408
This. That being said, I believe global warming is a thing, but that it's not man made (mostly).

>>129238356
>Who is using a trendline like this >>129227080 (You)
>to fit his bias, if not a fag?

how is that fitting my bias? I don't see an issue with that.

>>129230453
You mean weather of the past, right?
Not 2060-2069.

>>129238921
Try to extend it on the whole graph. Does it tip upwards at all? No.

>>129239451
It does in the end, look at orange background if you are too blind to see the black line

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>>129236300
Prove you've not an oil industry shill.

>>129225113
It's not the heat, it's the humidity that's annoying.

>>129239451
>Does it tip upwards at all?
What about this?
>>129239711
Any answers?

>>129239711
>Prove you're not X
Prove you're not a reptilian from Nibiru.

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>>129225113
I put some ice on the table and it melted, I'm literally shaking right now

>>129239975
You want to discuss the graph instead then?

>>129239697
>orange background
>black line
But trendline is red dot line. Are you just playing dumb? Just try to extend trendline to AD 2000 visually, it will be tilted up but still trend down slightly.

>>129227366
>weather is different than climate

>>129240941
No refutation of this?
>>129239711

>>129225113
It is summer even us in the north are burning because our white skin doesnt like sun.

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>>129240941
Why are you so obsessed with the trendline? don't you see that trendline ends before the graph ends?

Anyway, that is a graph of temperatures of Northern Scandinavia, not global.

>>129225113
thats called syphillis in the civilized world mongrel. Go see a witchdoctor or something.

>>129228976
>Current temps are trending down.

14 of the hottest years on record happened in the 15 years from 2000 to 2015: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/feb/02/14-15-hottest-years-record-2000-un-global-warming

And 2016 set the record again: https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-noaa-data-show-2016-warmest-year-on-record-globally/

>>129242295
Let's archive it

>https://theguardian com/environment/2015/feb/02/14-15-hottest-years-record-2000-un-global-warming
https://archive.is/u7H54

>>129242143
How would I get a syphilis, I'm an autistic NEET haven't even touched anyone sexual in my life. also does syphilis only burn in the heat? because in cold weather I'm fine.

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>>129241395
I miss being in Lapland

>>129241221
There is nothing to refute. We can't afford to reduce emission of CO2 significantly, here is a pic >>129232402, but does it actually pose such a big danger to us?

I'll just go with this graph >>129227577, seems like temperature used to fluctuate a lot regardless of our emissions.

>>129241436
>don't you see that trendline ends before the graph ends?
That is why i asked you to visually make a new one that covers all graph, was it not clear?
Your new graph looks more convincing, but as usual all the recent spikes are thermometer-based and everything else is a guess by proxy. Not that convincing anymore. Why are your graphs cover such tiny periods of himan history? Why not something like >>129227577?

>>129225113
>I CAN LITERALLY FEEL GLOBAL WARMING
Literally Kill yourself Faggot.
Shitty ass Larp

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>>129243875
I'm not making those graphs.
see another one I posted >>129226868

>>129240438
>I'm 17
you fucking underage piece of shit

>>129226024
Europe is so phallic its not even funny.

>>129227659
this is the parents fault, pure neglect. You can even tell the kid was trying to find a change of clothes or something by the hand marks on those drawers.

t. parent

>>129240438
you have to be 18 to post on this board

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>>129225113
Get Your Ass To Mars.

>>129226024
This solves the Aral Sea issue.

>>129243875
do you think multi-meter sea level rise, the death of tropical coral reefs (which hold most marine biodiversity) and large scale changes in precipitation are a threat?

>>129225113
Yeah, my body is all hot and I've been feeling sick. Thanks for global warming, fucking trumptards

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>>129233399
I dont get why you and texas get your own flags

but desu who does care. We will all be dead anyways. Also you can't change the world no matter how hard you try, we rely too much on fossil fuels and nobody has come up with a feasible solution. Fuck electric cars nigga. Imagine a 100% electric semi pulling 80k pounds across the country.

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>>129245414
>nobody has come up with a feasible solution
That's where you are wrong faggot

>>129244522
>"how to add nothing but pretend you did" — the post
Most of your red thermometer line can easily fit in the grey area of uncertainty from the past if moved hundreds of years back. It will fit completely if you try to use graphs that cover more than 4 digit year values.

>>129225113
You are an obnoxious, melodramatic bitch

>>129225113
global warming is real, it is caused by excess carbon dioxide in the atmosphere acting as a blanket which warms up the planet.
this results in horrible things like vast expanses of frozen land becoming arable, especially in the land of our great enemy Russia, who also plans to hack northern Canada to steal the land there, as well as hacking Antarctica.
plants thrive on carbon dioxide, which is bad for the earth because it means rogue enemy states like Russia will have more oxygen to breathe. also the increase in vegetation combined with increase in heat will cause more forest fires worldwide killing many many people. sources say that random trees will spontaneously combust into flames from the rising temperature of earth.
eventually the earth will get so hot that we will all die from heat exhaustion. this is exactly what happens when you keep a blanket on for too long, your temperature doesn't reach an equilibrium, it just keeps increasing until you die. sources say that's why you should only sleep for 8 hours, you'll die otherwise. this is why also babies often randomly die in their sleep from spontaneous infant combustion syndrome. their bodies absorb the blanket heat much more quickly due to their body's lower volume to surface area ratio.

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>>129225113
That's called summer and not wearing sunscreen. You freaking albino.

>>129246061
I'm not talking about sun faggot, it's night here.

>>129245175
I do think these are all a miniscule threat. Your solution?

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>>129225113
you have vd FAG

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>>129245894

>>129226024
Poor Cadiz

IT BURNS https://youtu.be/7P2fJ4iuxTo

>>129246359
loss of functionality for all coastal cities, loss of a good chunk of marine biodiversity and loss of stable agricultural provision is "miniscule" to you? What would you consider to be a "serious" threat?

I have basically convinced myself that the only feasible solution is a combination between a carbon fee and dividend and increased funding for R&D into Gen-IV (thermal MS) reactors

>>129245573
did varg come up with something?

present the solution mega-faggotlord

>>129225640
(((variables)))
(((expectations)))
(((speculations)))
(((predictions)))
(((model)))

>>129246904
i'm like 25% lebansese but I look white. Can i help smash the muslimarchy?

>>129246139
Why does Georgia get it's own flag, Florida should get one too!

>>129247049
the only thing varg can come with is B-tier memes

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>>129247049
>did varg come up with something
Yes, going back to hunter gatherer life style

Another solution is to develop more clean energy technology and keep the population down. also vertical gardens. throwing Iron into the oceans helps too.

>>129247133
Obviously, everything in the future is predictions

>>129247628
yep and these (((variables))) and (((prediction))) settings are all set to give that result.
>what would happen if we were right
>oh wow the computer predict we would be right

self fulfilling prophecy

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>>129225113
https://weather.com/storms/winter/news/june-snow-northwest-cascades-northern-rockies

yeah BS

>>129248160
not even close to be the most steep climb either

>>129246908
Miniscule because it does not happen overnight. Even overpopulation will be a bigger problem sooner than warming.

Carbon fee just doesn't help, see pic >>129232402, can't say anything about thermal and other renewables, these sources seem to have low to negative efficiency and can't provide near enough energy 24/7 all year in most cases. Just a temporary and costly solution.

>>129248160
>This argument uses temperatures from the top of the Greenland ice sheet. This data ends in 1855, long before modern global warming began. It also reflects regional Greenland warming, not global warming.


https://skepticalscience.com/10000-years-warmer.htm

>>129248160
your graph is just complete nonsense I'm sorry

the GISP record starts in 1950, not 2000 (that's actually what paleoclimatologists mean with "present"). Since the last data point comes 95 years BP, it's actually from the calendar year of 1855 - which means the graph is completely missing the entire instrumental temperature record of the past 150 years

>>129225113

1) Climate scientists have been found obfuscating data multiple times.

2) Climate models will spit out the assumptions you put into them. They aren't using sophisticated backpropagation, they probably only use LMSE with some kind of parameter grid search within the 'accepted boundaries'.

3) Climate scientists have over-stepped their societal role by trying to make policy.

4) Who the fuck becomes a climate scientist? Only massive autists and lefty ecologists who want to be slightly more rigorous than literal tree-huggers.

5) Climate scientists associative with complete frauds like Al Gore.

6) Saying 'the science is settled' and making appeals to authority is completely against the philosophy of falsifiability.

7) Climate models rely on all sorts of feedback loops which haven't been proven to exist. The predictions of the models which have had the opportunity to be falsified by time has been shit (newer models which backward fit data don't count).

8) Global warming pushers make fun of anecdotal data, but then have no problem sharing shit like "omg its the hottest day in Ohio on record". Obviously if you have 10k thermometers around the country you're going to find a hottest day on record somewhere some time.

9) They offer no proper explanation of why there has been a sudden stagnation in said warming.

10) They fail to mention temperatures and carbon dioxide levels have been far higher. and life thrived. Fail to mention recent greening effect

11) Fail to support nuclear, fail to denounce China/India/etc, fail to disassociate themselves from champagne socialists.

12) Warmer temperatures, more greening, open shipping lanes will be a boon for northern countries.

13) Claimed increased number of hurricanes/tornadoes but the opposite is the case.

14) Fail to mention Antarctic ice sheet is growing.

15) Never examine massive cost of reducing fossil fuel use.

16) Dishonest about the extend of coral damage and its causes (farm runoff in many cases).

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Can someone redpill me on the proportion of natural vs. man made carbon dioxide?

>>129240081
You are the one who deflected first. YOu are getting btfo and now think you have the high ground?

OP and the other high school educated shills are really getting worked today lol

>>129248992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcmCBetoR18

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>>129248473
I don't know how old you are but I fully expect to see many of these things within my lifetime and I care enough about human civilization that I want it protected from harm

the post you refer to only talks about a hypothetical carbon tax in Australia

Carbon fee and dividend would work by levying a fee against all fossil fuels either at the domestic mine or the port of entry. This fee would then be payed out to every legal citizen as an equal dividend. The result of this is that the part of the population that has a less-than-average carbon footprint (that's about 2/3 of the population in most countries) would see a net increase in their income

and i think you misunderstood what I was talking about in regard to thermal. I was talking about nuclear molten salt reactors that operate in the thermal rather than the fast spectrum

>>129225113
Burn motherfucker

>>129230453
>predicting weather
>carbon dating
jesus christ

>>129227659
>>129244823
feel bad for that kid
clearly his diaper was way overfull of shit and he tried to change himself cause his parents are worthless :(

>>129228256
>What the government needs to do is facilitate an orderly transition, to ensure that these people can look forward to different employment.
yes goys more government programs

>>129225113
All of my jellies in my toybox are melted now. Plugs, dongs, beads, all melted due to increases in global warming. Thanks Trump, you fuck. I got colon cancer and my box is filled with molten jelly.

>>129247628
>trowing iron in the ocean helps to.
But what about all the unintended consequences of small scale experiments meant to measure unintended consequences?
Kek, seriously though we should put more research into that.

>>129249709
>I was talking about nuclear molten salt reactors that operate in the thermal rather than the fast spectrum
I indeed misunderstood, this looks promising.

I'm still not convinced that fee will actually accomplish anything significant in regard to global warming. Post I referred to was using hypothetical carbon tax plan for Australia to calculate hypothetical cost in dollars to save single degree Celsius globally.

Still waiting on the evidence that man's effect on climate change is anything more than a drop in the ocean...

Still waiting on the evidence that meeting the goals of the Paris agreement will have any noticeable effect on halting climate change...

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>>129242295
>14 of the hottest years on record happened in the 15 years from 2000 to 2015

You forgot to mention that the "record" you're talking about only goes back about 167 years.

Climate change true believers are becoming as silly as young earth creationists.

>>129248608
>skepticalscience.com

LOL
From the skeptical science website itsself, ran by the great Australian scientist John Cook:

>This site was created by John Cook. I'm not a climatologist or a scientist but a self employed cartoonist and web programmer by trade

http://web.archive.org/web/20080213042858/http://www.skepticalscience.com/page.php?p=3

>>129254675
with the industrial revolution happening recently for the first time in history we still don't know what effect that will have on the earth "breathing" as shown in your pic, so buckle up

>>129255034
Not an argument

>>129255334
You're using a source that has been discredited multiple times for manipulating data and using unscientific methods to reach a conclusion he wanted to promote.

skepticalscience.com is religious hogwash.

see:
>>129232402

>>129256250
Again, not an argument. it wasn't even written by the site owner, it was copied from someone else, it's not an original source.

>>129227577
Those digits don't lie

>>129255229
>we still don't know what effect that will have
>but it's absolutely going to be an apocalyptic catastrophe!!

One day while Chicken Little is walking in the woods an acorn falls from a tree, and hits the top of her little head.

“My oh my, the sky is falling. I must run and tell the lion about it”, says Chicken Little and begins to run. She runs and runs. By and by she meets the hen.

“Where are you going?” asks the hen.
“Oh, Henny Penny, the sky is falling and I am going to the lion to tell him about it.”
“How do you know this?” asks Henny Penny.
“It hit me on the head, so I know it must be so”, says Chicken Little.
“Let me go with you!” says Henny Penny.

So the two run and run until they meet Ducky Lucky.
“The sky is falling”, says Henny Penny. “We are going to the lion to tell him about it.”
“How do you know that?” asks Ducky Lucky.
“It hit Chicken Little on the head”, says Henny Penny.
“May I come with you?” asks Ducky Lucky.
“Come”, says Henny Penny.

So all three of them run on and on until they meet Foxey Loxey.
“Where are you going?” asks Foxey Loxey.
“The sky is falling and we are going to the lion to tell him about it”, says Ducky Lucky.
“Do you know where he lives?” asks Foxey Loxey.
“I don’t”, says Chicken Little.
“I don’t”, says Henny Penny.
“I don’t”, says Ducky Lucky.

“I do”, says Foxey Loxey. “Come with me and I can show you the way.”
He walks on and on until he comes to his den.
“Come right in”, says Foxey Loxey.

They all go in, but only Foxey Loxey comes out again.

why doesn't pol gather a group to mine glaciers and sell water. but it might illegal but whatever

>>129225113
summer.

>>129256439
>not an argument

It's silly to argue with religious people; they believe whatever they feel like believing.

Everyone else reading will understand John Cook is a charlatan, and anything promoted by him should be scrutinized instead of trusted.

>>129228976
My guess is you're pre college

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>>129228256

because only people in the fossil fuel industry are skeptical?

>>129232246
Aight aight. I studied some basic economics and I've read a couple of books about international economics.

There was a mention of the climate change issue. Basically, the authors said that economists decided that if we tax more on emissions, everything will eventually slowly decline. You see, if you force an economy to grow, it will eventually grow. If it grows, people will be able to pay more for such things as taxes.

Not trying to be a smartass. The only way that humanity can win in this situation is to tax more on those emissions. Prices go up, demand goes down. Simple as that.

Netherlands taxes a SHIT TON for fuel and things like that. Taxes went up again this year. My country is constatly forcing the economy to grow.

Let me tell you a funny thing. The Netherlands basically forces people to ride a bycicle. If you wanna get a car here, it won't be easy at all my dudes. There are no free parking places except on the outer areas of towns. Taxes for cars are really big and fuel is very expensive (2.2 EUROS where I live). So, if we were to tax more, we would win this fight. Economically speaking.

tl;dr: Tax more on emissions in order to defeat climate change or at least slow it down.

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>>129259289
>implying carbon tax is no just a meme to destroy the small business
Big corporations should be taxed way more then.

>>129259758
Thanks for the (You)

Of course they should be taxed more. It's beneficial for the economy of a country. Not substantially more but they should be taxed in accordance to what they consume. Specificity rule bro, attack the source of the problem. Don't go around the issue.

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>>129245210
is actually AIDS

>>129225113
P to point and laugh

P
also sage goes in the options field.

It has been seasonally COOL in Mid Atlantic.

Make up your mind... Global Warming or Cooling or just variations of the weather/climate.

>>129225113
"Herpes: any of a group of viral diseases caused by herpes viruses, affecting the skin (often with blisters) or the nervous system."

>>129227659
rip, dead by diarrhea

>>129259289
>in order to defeat climate change

You must feel like a valiant knight, charging off to attack an evil dragon.

Doomsday cults are a relic of evolution. We live in an uncontrollable world, yet desperately feel a need to control it and everything else; so, we assign human culpability to natural processes in order to have an enemy we feel capable of fighting. No different really than ancient peoples who invented gods to explain things like thunder and rain.

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Dinosaur farts warmed the earth to put an end to the ice age. If only man was around to put diaper filters on their ass.

>>129229287
>a.) clearly not at play right now and b.) act on much longer timescales

They ARE in play.

Besides one degree over 10 years is nothing more than static on this scale.

>>129260981
Nice reasoning, really. However, I used that term as a metaphor. I didn't want to anthropomorphize climate change.

Thanks for the (You) btw.

>>129230177
>it's humans now.

A decade in 100,000 years is only enough to be considered static; a normal anomaly that normally occurs.

>>129242295
10 years is not enough to be more than static compared to 100,000 years.

having 3 decades get warmer then get colder would be perfectly normal static over the past 100,000 years.

>>129225113
>when you live in the mountains and aren't used to warm weather

rekt

I love how people think some tax on carbon is actually going to make a difference in regards to climate change.

If you think people sitting around talking, and taxing companies who only pass on the cost to the consumer is going to make a difference, you have to be border line retarded.

Lets call the paris agreement and other similar agreements what they are. A cash cow for the UN so they can fund their globalist agenda.

It has no actual effect on the amount of emissions produced by companies that use fossil fuels.

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>>129226928
>flag

>>129225113

They burn because of all the gmo shit you swallow you god damn troglodyte

fuck off and never come back

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That's just your asshole burning from being such a fag.

The earth goes in cycles, Russian climatologists never believed it was all because of CO2 gas. Look up Tim Ball for a person who knows. I think nature changing to be half a degree hotter in the last 100 years is something that doesn't matter unless people near the beaches can't walk and don't notice it for 60 years.

>>129225640
>tfw when balkanfag
>tfw see this map
WHYYYYYYYYYY how does this make sense

>>129225113
lmaooo I knew it was a georgianon without looking at the flag. fucking burning in here

>>129263714
ah yes goy, this sourceless graph with incorrect data, boy you got me to stop believing in climate change wtf i hate the EPA now!

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>it will be in the 90's for the next few days in Colorado
ITS TOO SOON
KILL ME NOW

>>129263714
Lol... what about smog? Is it a test of your faith like Dinosaurs? Fucking city rats all need to burn

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>>129264066
>a fag

>>129230630
You seem pretty desperate based on the fact you're making empty arguments with no substance

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>>129264938

>>129265365
A climate change scientist has one job, and it is not science.

The job is: pump out garbage studies to promote the "climate change" bullshit.

Not science.

Anyone can call themselves a scientist. Climate change scientists research nothing, they just produce studies. Studies are not research.

You actually have do do research to be a scientist. Climate change scientists are not scientists.

Just the Earth getting rid of white people. You can go hide in caves though or throw on black face paint and admit you're inferior...then again you do that with "sunscreen" which makes your skin black under a UV light anyway lol.

>>129226024
>Half of Germany gone
>Aral sea recovers
>Russia has warm water ports
>Most Iraqis drown
Seems pretty good

Did shareblue find cheaper proxy than Serbia and Ukraine?

>>129225113
lel get fucked steppenigger

>>129225113
>I CAN LITERALLY FEEL MY SKIN AND BALLS BURNING.

does it make you sleepy? maybe you should take a nap

>>129228816
Cheese isn't melted properly. Meat looks pale,lower bun seems too thick. 5/10

>>129225640
but how is alaska wetter than the ocean?

Climate change is a conspiracy theory made up by rapefugee loving liberals

>>129264938
homosexuality isn't found in animal, only in domesticated goat and some other animal. other animals are always bisexual, never exclusively homosexual.

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>>129225113
that's called summer faggot.

So what should i do to prevent climate change?

>>129238169
What is question #2 though?