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What the fuck can be done about flyover country? The central

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What the fuck can be done about flyover country? The central United States produces almost none of the nation's GDP, and yet they have the majority of influence in national elections? Can they just have their own independent province so they can smoke meth, beat their wives, and die off without getting involved in the affairs of people who matter?
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He's never heard of petroleum
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Inb4 rural and suburban retards
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>>129204748
>coast cuck mad about the best part of the USA
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>>129204748
t. fag from the city
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I've never been more than 15 minutes from the beach
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>>129204748
I suppose they could just stop shipping you food. It's not like you need to eat or anything.
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>>129204748
Holy shit you're a faggot.
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>>129207840
>ive never been more than 15 minutes from the worst possible part of our country
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>>129204748
>what if food?
>what is oil?
>who are these 'citizens'
>what are these 'values'
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>>129207919
Well a large majority of the coastal states are self sufficient Ex. Cali and NY both have fuck tons of farms and orchards. Stay salty flyover boi.
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>>129207919

this. coast states make literally nothing but ass-pained liberals. some parts of the south make meat and tobacco and steel, the rest of you don't make squat and if you do the materials are sourced from the flyover states

t. OTR truck driver
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>>129208263
Marijuana does not count paco
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>>129208278
What is wall street, silicon valley.
The coastal states are the epicenter of fashion, design and innovation.
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>>129208263
I don't think ca and ny combined have enough agricultural production to feed over 60 million people
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>>129208708
Are you forgetting about all of the NY Dairys and Cali fruit and veg farms?
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>>129204748
>have most of the influence
Fuck off, Jew York.
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>>129208746
https://www.thetoptens.com/self-sufficient-states-united-states/
Cali and NY are some of the most self sufficient states.
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>>129208225
>these things that are purchased from flyover states surely could not be purchased from anywhere else on the planet!

You should try thinking shit through a bit.
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>>129208890
Well it's true. What shitty fly overstate are you from?
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>>129204748
california is all that is wrong with the world. if no reality tv no drupvf presidency
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>>129204748
Youre out of your fucking mind. Fly over states still have a higher -- or equal -- gdp output in comparison to almost all 1st world European countries. They may pale relatively to FL, CA, or TX but there is still plenty of value there.
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>>129204748
The anal discomfort you are experiencing will ease in time, friend.
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>>129204748
>cities are full of productive people who contribute to society
hahahahahahahaha
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>>129207497
>best
www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/17/drugs-opiod-addiction-epidemic-portsmouth-ohio

I read about it and it sounds like the third world pal. Sleeping in a car and no healthcare, muh freedom.
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>>129208949
Except when it comes to budget deficits and debts.
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>>129209383

https://archive.is/qn4to
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>>129208949
>literally just opinions people voted on
Nice source faggot
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>>129204748
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>>129204748
Enjoy starving you dumb nigger.

>muh flyover states are dumb
Do you eat anything, Kike?
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>>129204748

I know this is shareblue shitposting but thanks for handing us the election with this attitude sweetie
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>>129204748
Concentrating liberals in two major cities is another huge jewish fatal flaw.
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>>129204748
Texas GDP: 1.69 TRILLION
Oklahoma, Nabraska, both dakotas, kansas : 681 BILLION

TOTAL: 2.320 TRILLION

12% of national GDP. Not much, but most of the food is grown here.

Texas has more agriculture then any other state, combine with the other central states, thats where most food is grown. Austin texas is the next silicon valley as the libs move away from unrealistically high cost of living.

The central states have influence because if you oppress them, they will stop farming and the rest of you will starve.
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>>129204748
What the fuck can be done about cities? They smell like piss, are full of the bad kind of minorities, don't take care of their homeless, and their crime rates are spilling over to us.
you guys ARE the fly-over states my friend.
Go watch CNN, what are you even doing here? Didja get lost?
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>>129208949
Dumb source
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>>129204748
To prevent this is why.
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>>129209900
>taking care of homeless people and allowing their defective genes to survive

u wot m8
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>>129210645
Christian Jew.
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>>129210645
We take care of them by teaching them to not be homeless, while cities just give them handouts only, while they fuck outta control and breed like rabbits.
Many of these cities have homeless populations going back several generations.
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MOAR INFRASTRUCTURE
URBAN SPRAWL TO COUNTRYSIDE
RELOCATION PROGRAMS FOR REFUGEES
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>>129204748
corporations are the ones cutting them off from economic prosperity so that they can exert power over their governments.
fix your democracy.
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>>129204914

Or food apparently...
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>>129208949
If you read your own source, you would see that though California grows the most produce....they have no water of their own. Kind of a problem since water is number 1 on hierarchy of needs and without water...no crops...so 2nd human requirement is now out.
New York cannot come close to feeding itself. The list says that it's there because it has the largest and most developed city. Doesn't seem to be a plus.
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>>129212344
Cali may have the most produce, but Texas produces the most food including Veggies, Fruit, and animals all together. Im from whore town right next to cali.
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>>129208263

Don't know about NY, but if you go to the areas in Cali (I-5 corridor) where they grow the food it's red, not blue.
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Jew York and Spicofornia don't deserve political representation. You fucks are responsible for everything wrong with the country.
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>>129208263
Oh yeah, self sufficient California.
That gets most of its water from nevada.
And about all of its oil and power from out of state.
And all of its meats from out of state.
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>>129204748

Flyover country produces the most patriotism per capita.
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Cali also gets 5 additional senators because the census does not list legal citizenship status. Obama care won by 3 senators....illegals gave us Obama care. Its almost like they want free stuff without working for it.
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>>129213074
>And about all of its oil and power from out of state.
Cali has strict power regulations with concern to fossil fuels. Power in cali is FOOOKING expensive and has to be subsidized through the state income tax.
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>>129204748
That would require large reforms to the core structure of our government. I'm all for it, but good luck convincing those corn fuckers to give up power.
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>>129204748
u r a retard
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>>129213119
You should probably read the constitution sometime. You're wrong. Protip: the House and the Senate are not the same.

Were you home-schooled in a damn barn?
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>>129208723

Without wall street or Silicon valley you can survive

Without food you fucking die

Flyover states also produce most of your grain and corn used for ethanol

You can't live without us, but we can live without you and most of us already do
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>>129208263
Sure they can be purchased elsewhere, but at what price? You should try thinking things through.
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>>129208746
CA does for sure. The red parts of northern California are pretty much all farmland. Absolutely beautiful countryside too. It really is a shame that they're being run by decadents.
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>>129204748
>jewish paper debt notes and corporate welfare are ((((((( gdp))))))))
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>>129209383
Americans are dumb as fuck and always assign blame. Right now they are blaming pharmaceutical manufacturers. They refuse personal responsibility.
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>>129209383
we sure need the anti nigger and spic wall ASAP.
open borders kikes are poisoning good white people.
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>>129208263
>half of the agricultural production in CA comes from red counties
>majority of agricultural production in NY comes from red counties
Why are the left wing and urban retards chimping out and destroying farm lands in CA?
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>>129208263
Where is California going to get water from?
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>>129204748
>If they don't have a high GDP, then they are not important!!

Some things are more important than money you faggot OP
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>>129208723
Luxury products will do you no good without food, energy, production. The long supply chain is going to fuck over the cities eventually. You are all warned.
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>>129209383
>links the guardian

Into the trash it goes
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>>129204748
Asking for help.
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>>129214424
Free state of Jefferson when?
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You city dwellers have more crime, drugs, killings, drug use, darkies, and degenerates than us. Kys. you city scum would turn us into Sweden if you had your way.
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>>129204748
You are a fucking idiot. Thats where 1/3 of the worlds grain is grown dumbass. Id shoot you if you were standing in front of me. They should have more influence than welfare niggers, and desk jockeys.
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Highest birth rate in the country comes from those red states. These also feed most of the countries oil,coal,and produce.
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Midwest and south are nice cheap low cost of living areas but they lack high speed Internet access in the rural araes.
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>>129214825
Seizing the means of production is all I can think of
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Fuck off. We are (generally) hardworking people of integrity and humility. We brave some of the most volatile climates in the country for our families to prosper. California and New York have the geniuses and the money, but also pompous assholes, traffic, illegals, and insane costs of living. If you actually come to the midwest and enjoy our serene rural areas, lack of traffic, wholesome values and CHEAP everything you might change your mind. BTW, most welfare babies and meth heads are in the South/Appalachia.
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>>129216680
What about it? I'm from there. Its just okay.
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>>129209431
you're the best, Nordbot
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>>129209011
The one without 55 electors
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>>129204748
>Bitches about meth in flyovers
>When California is the meth capital of the US
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>>129204748
TIP: When you break down voting patterns to the individual and not just the city, Trump supporters have a higher GDP than Clinton supporters
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>>129216500
Hey im taking up for your section dont blame Appalachia for the meth heads. There are lots of them in New Mexico and Arizona due to the spics muling it in.Yes there are a ton of welfare niglets running around in the south because of the displacement from the civil war.
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>>129209621
D-don't tease us, Anon-kun...
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>>129216888
I like it, the nature is very nice. I just like Midwestern States in general, Missouri being one of the more favourable.
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>>129208263
How do you figure cali and new york are self sufficient?
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>>129204748
Why always the divisiveness , jew ?
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>>129204748
Also , one post by this id
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>>129209383
And the AIDs epidemic happened primarily on the coasts, what's your point nigger?
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>>129208263
Hi, rural Californian here. You city dwellers really under estimate how much the rest of us hate your guts.

When the day comes that you finally become arrogant enough to rebel, we'll be the ones taking first shot at you.
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>>129213074
to be fair, cali could get its own water if they didn't intentionally dump excess water into the ocean instead of saving it like the good little eco warriors they think they are

but hey, at least they voted to let communists into office
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>>129217678
Im wondering that myself. Those two states are wholly dependent on imported products into their boarders. ohh well Cali's can live off avacodo's but will have no toast cause they grow no grain. New Yorkers can live off sewer rats.
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>>129208278
>coastal states make nothing
>except literally all of our valuable exports
How can anybody be this willfully ignorant?
>t. Truck driver
That explains everything.
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>>129204748

Of course it's never the kike that is the problem, it's everything but his parasitizing self.
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You're right, it's terrible. Don't come here
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>>129204748
>Complains about flyover states
>Muh high coastal incomes
>Wants to pay high federal income taxes that flow into flyover states

You don't know how cucked you are do you?
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>>129218469
they're already migrating to texas
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>How small is too small? Inside the 28 sq ft, $500-month 'pod' an illustrator built into his friend's San Francisco apartment
>Peter Berkowitz, 25, constructed a tiny bedroom pod in the living room of his friend's San Francisco apartment
>One bedroom apartments in the city rent for $3,500 per month compared to his $508 per month to live in a pod
>The pod is equipped with a fold-down desk, cushioned backboard that's slanted and LED lights for reading
>He believes pods can provide a 'needed fix' for people who want to add a bedroom to apartments without rent rising
>His eight-foot-long pod is also equipped with a sliding door and has room to store his books and clothing

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3511431/Inside-eight-foot-bedroom-pod-built-San-Francisco-apartment-s-equipped-sliding-door-LED-lights.html
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>>129204748
>*Blocks Food Supply*
>*Blocks Water Suppy*
You move, commiefornian
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>>129218184
Don't worry I am sure the financial industry will be fine even though most of their business is in a foreign country
Same with their ports
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>>129208723
>Forefornt of innovation
The midwest contains...
>Boeing
>Garmin
>Petroleum and related industries
>FARMS (Where most of your beef and pigs come from. but since you're probably a vegan faggot, you wouldn't know about this)
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>>129204748

We absolutely can split off from you coastal morons. Good luck getting your food. We will be glad to sell you some...
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>>129208263

You think you are gonna feed, SF, Bay area, LA, Orange County, and San Diego from the valley? You are delusional.
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>>129209431
our savior returns to us
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>>129219101
I know I know I will be fine. I can produce my own power, food, Clean water, and drugs. I am what the financial industry hates. I pay cash for everything, I buy only what’s needed. Them and their ports are only needed by me for the few "luxuries like the net or devices" I desire.
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Read "The Creature from Jekyll Island". This is explained.

The Federal Reserve was created to centralize banking power in NYC for the Rothschilds. The trend at the time was that banking was decentralizing and power was spreading to the west and south.

Is it so hard to imagine that Silicon Valley is trying to monopolize the nation's computing power the same way? What will their universal legal lockdown consist of? You should be afraid.
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>>129219713
>I am what the financial industry hates
I am saying wall street is fucked
>Them and their ports are only needed by me for the few "luxuries like the net or devices" I desire.
Their ports business will dry up when they cant send goods to the rest of the country
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>>129208949

Whoa, you mean to tell me that the state with the most people won a popularity contest online where all that matters is the number of people who voted? No fuckin way man, I'm shocked.
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>>129208949
>the same people that decimated their orchids as wel as other thousands of acres of armland and the livelihoods of farmers for delta smelt they couldn't save are self sufficient
I think you meant self destructive.
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>>129208820
That are in red counties.
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>>129208263
"We can eat one pack of blueberries per day" KEK

also the agricultural areas are red. How many LA cucks actually grow their own food?
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The federal gov shouldn't be this powerful; states right should be unilateral and final decider. If you don't like the laws of one state, deal with it or move to another. This BS about 'muh break off from flyover' is fucking moronic.I don't think people living in the city realize how important rural America is.
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>>129204748
>1 post by this ID

Slide thread.
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>>129220259
>also the agricultural areas are red.
And they can easily turn off LAs water
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>>129204748
set yourself on fire in protest
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>>129204748
They produce all our fucking food you retarded faggot.
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>>129219047
>joins canada
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>>129204748

Kansas City is objectively the greatest city in the entire country.
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>>129215947
And yet still do pretty well. Probably because if you fuck over the people you do business with, they go to someone else. Funny how capitalism works.
That being said, there's actually a decent technology drive going here in Missouri by the kids of third generation farmers trying to improve the way they do business. They're still planning on farming, just trying to modernize.
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>>129216680
What's the issue? I'm from Missouri and it's alright. Not outstanding, but there's plenty of opportunities to make a decent wage. You might have to do a job you don't necessarily want, but the opportunity is there.
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>>129204748
>and yet they have the majority of influence in national elections?
What the fuck are you talking about? It takes like 10 flyover states to equal California.
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>>129219047
Eh, maybe, but I'm not so sure; if he lives on the east coast (like me), there's farms in upstate NY, PA, NJ and New England for food, plus plenty of water sources around
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>>129218853
>>How small is too small? Inside the 28 sq ft, $500-month 'pod' an illustrator built into his friend's San Francisco apartment
>>Peter Berkowitz, 25, constructed a tiny bedroom pod in the living room of his friend's San Francisco apartment
>>One bedroom apartments in the city rent for $3,500 per month compared to his $508 per month to live in a pod
>>The pod is equipped with a fold-down desk, cushioned backboard that's slanted and LED lights for reading
>>He believes pods can provide a 'needed fix' for people who want to add a bedroom to apartments without rent rising
>>His eight-foot-long pod is also equipped with a sliding door and has room to store his books and clothing
This is what the NWO over seers want everyone to live in while they live in the dozens of mansions around the world
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Rural and suburban retards think they have more economic leverage than the coastal states.

>muh we will stop giving you food

Who else are you going to sell to. The coastal states can buy from Canada if they need to. Fly over states have literally zero market outside of US.

Retarded!
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>>129204748
>coastcucks bragging about how many shekels their masters give them again.

The purge can't come soon enough.
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>>129207497

>3rd world "states"
>best

ahahahahahahaha

also, thoroughly enjoying all the flyover butthurt ITT. now get on your knees and kiss my yankee feet for keeping your worthless, parasitic states afloat with my tax dollars.
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>>129204748
>cancer asking what to do about the rest of the healthy body
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>>129208263
Please calexit so the USA can retake Cali
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>>129221367
California should technically have way more electoral votes for it to be proportional. The other states siphon off votes from states like Cali and Texas.
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>>129221438

i live just outside Boston, have singe family home with a 1/2 acre of private land, spent 424k.

if you get off your ass and aren't a halfwit, it's pretty easy to buy respectable property and live comfortably. i realize this is a foreign concept to a NEET from jesusland, though, since you guys cant fathom making purchases that arent financed by government checks.
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>>129221379
Who chooses who gets to eat? Way too many people for those states to support. People in these large urban areas ..... keep complaining about red states. We will set back with opur guns and provisions and watch the ghettos kill the upper and middle class in those areas because they have no food. Embrace the dumb red neck farmers you think you should hate. Dont bite the hand that literally feeds you and your ghetto dependants.
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>>129221913
>muh food

You do know New York and Cali produce a lot of food right? California literally produces more milk than Wisconsin and New York is 3rd. It's not like those rural and suburban retards are needed either, farming is mostly mechanized, especially shit like corn.
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>>129209383
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>>129221793
>votes for it to be proportional.
Why should it be proportional?
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>>129221913

You are way overestimating your worth. only about 2/3 of US food is provided internally, and the difference could rather easily be made up by importing food from canada for example.

in either case, flyover country depends far more on subsidies financed by coastal tax dollars than vice versa. big agriculture is driven by corporations and machines, not "small farmers with muh gunz". keep LARPing though you 98 pound girlyboy.
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>>129222170
I'm just pointing out that smaller states wield more power proportionally. A vote in Nebraska is worth more than one in California. I'm not saying which way is better really.
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>>129222170

So it would be a democracy for real. The idea little shit states with 1.3 million people have the same amount of Senators (2) as a state with 20 million is bullshit democracy.

Also, fly-over people tend to be poor, uneducated, and unwilling to move into the future. They hold us all back.
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>>129221637
>implying calis cities and NYC arent the biggest leeches and crime ridden shitholes in the country

Fucking lol at your life retard
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>>129204748
They produce 80% of the food the US eats.
95% of the cattle
About 67% of the dairy.
Farmers are pretty much the backbone of the nation.
How much produce comes out of New Mexico and Washington state?
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>>129222734
What? Barely anyone is employed in agriculture. Very few actual farmers remain.
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>>129204748
>TX
>FL
>VA
>NC
>GA
>flyover states

SAGE
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>>129222526

NYC BY ITSELF has a GDP the size of south korea. It is, by a landslide, the biggest city economy in the US.

Get a fucking job you underage degenerate.
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>>129222734

But this is "big agriculture"--mostly done by corporations/heavy machinery. The parasites that happen to live close by have nothing to do with our food production.
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>>129222734
Also, the top 3 dairy states are California, Wisconsin, and NY.

California is 4th in beef production.
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>>129222423
KYS shareblue nigger faggot

This is a slide thread
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>>129222332
You obviously have blinders on. There is no substitute for self reliance. You wanna hate on simple people that live simple lives. Keep in mind money does not mean anything to alot of people in the south and midwest. People in large urban areas do not understand it. As Hank said " A country boy can survive"
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>>129222423
Trump won every income group except for those earning under $50,000 per year.

Aka the flyover states. Don't fall for the fake lib maymays
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>>129223494

This is why I LOL at your posts. You seem to have this delusion that intentionally being a broke parasite who lives in the woods and spends money on guns and walmart makes you "self reliant". The best part of this is that redneck communities are more reliant on big box stores than any other part of the country; local economies are flourishing elsewhere. Get over yourself, your communities are garbage in every way.
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>>129213265
You're worse than the actual commies.
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>>129223180
Probably because its been the financial center for the US for years? Fucking dipshit. Ever since its come under leftist control its gotten worse there with stifling regulations and the like. Just take a look at Detroit to see what your glorious policies create, then realize that Cali is retarded enough to hike taxes on an increasingly poor population with gang violence on the rise despite gun control in place, with taxes being hiked even further to pay for ""universal health care"" in that state, PLUS worst crumbling infrastructure in the country, PLUS insane housing prices. Muh silicon valley won't save california from sinking harder than the fucking titanic for exactly the same reason, "hurr it can't get any worse california is a titan hurr, we won't suffer from issues we da bestest". Have you even lived in Cali? I have.

Also nice projecting you fucking cum dumpster, I'm in training for an actual fucking job, electric lineman. But keep bitching.
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>>129223986
Ahhh lets see.... my garden produces enough produce to feed 6 people for the year. Cost me time and labor. Muh guns and fishin pole produces game to eat. Muh chickens produce eggs and nuggets. Can you say the same? How good is life when you dont have to worry about money to feed yourself and family? LOL at yourself all day long.
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>>129204748
>produce almost none of the nation's GDP
The businesses that are headquartered in the largest cities get most of their work force from outside of CA/NY/FL.
Hollywood, Silicon Valley and Wall Street could effectively be moved anywhere and still do what they do.
You're a Fucking retard if you can't grasp this.

>implication of imbalanced representation
We have been a Republic since our inception.
No one forces you to live in an overcrowded shithole that diminishes the weight of your vote.
If you move to Puerto Rico or Guam, you get no vote at all.
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>>129209383
>inner cities full of ethnics, drugs, and gangs
>inner cities try to export ethnics to smaller rural towns in surrounding areas
>get feds to force towns to provide housing and financial aid to make it easier
>rural towns get flooded with ethnics
>rural towns full of ethnics, drugs, and gangs
Shocker
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Troll post is troll post. Lotra redditier faggots around here need to get purged.
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>>129208263
We should allow an open vote, where names will be known, for secession of states/localities.
Everyone who votes for secession should be stripped of citizenship and forcefully deported after its all counted up.

Though, consider of it were just a vote by county, only a handful of major cities might even conceivably pass such measures, minus most of their suburbs and the rest of the state they reside in.
Then you kill the traitors, like the filthy dogs they are.
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>>129204748
They produce almost all your fucking food you dumb fag.
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>>129213418
We'd rather just cull the limp wristed progressives.
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>midwest is flyover
>chicago is 3rd biggest city in the country
>center of health care and finance
>o'hare is the busiest airport in the country

Once we get rid of the niggers it'll be perfect. Stay delusional LA and NY cucks
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>>129204748

Break up the states. ie secession. It needs to be done to fix the politics on the continent and it will happen someday anyway. There is no way for one govt to represent a country this big.
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