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Iberians were JEWED, rather than MOOR'D.

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People in /pol/ tend to assume their "swarthiness" comes from Moors. But if you look at genetics, you will see their paternal Y-DNA lineage is mostly Celtic/Atlantic European. How can they be "moor rapebabies" if this is the case?
Then, if you study some history, you will learn countless Jews have emigrated to the Iberian peninsula over the millennia, as far as the Roman times. Known as "Sephardic" Jews. Unlike moors, they were never completely expelled, but simply forced to "convert". Something which of course was never a real problem to kikes, since they can simply pretend to be Christians while living as cryptojews. These converts were called "Marranos". Marranos were more easily accepted and intermarried within the native Catholic population than Muslim Moors.

These are some (common) Spanish last names Jewish in origin:
>Perez
>Ramirez
>Hernandez
>Fernandez
>Jimenez
>Ortega
>Lopez
>Quevedo
>Garcia
>Ortega
>Noguera
>Sosa
>Saavedra
>Cortes
>Aguilar
>Mendoza
>Morales
>Segovia
>Latorre
>Leon
>Valderrama
>Zabaleta
>Zapata
>Zaldivar
etc., etc., etc.
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>>129178183
Perhaps most of the mixing happened between Jewish females and Celt-Iberian males.
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>>129178183
nigga those surnames were adopted by the converted jews, they are not of jewish origin. For example García has basque origin and is the most used surname here, I even met a person with two Garcia surnames, one from the mother side and the other for the father side.
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Oh great so Im a jew now?

I dont know if that makes me feel any better
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>>129178534
Maybe you're right about some of the surnames, but the fact remains that Spain has had a significant input of Jewish blood, waaay more significant than whatever Moors left behind.
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>>129178585

Yes, you are, and so do I. Now, brother, we cant be called racist or fascist, because that would be antisemitic.

Learn how to master your jew privilege.
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>>129178183
True
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>>129178183
>García
>Zabaleta
>Zaldivar
Those are of basque origin, boi
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>>129178183
>These are some (common) Spanish last names Jewish in origin:
>All of them
.............it's like in Portugal where they even claim fucking Vasconcelos(!!). Complete horseshit, they simply adopted existing surnames. It's nowhere near "jewish origin".
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>>129178585
You too?
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>>129178585
90%+ of Iberians might as well be jews according to delusional kike revisionists.
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I get it, we're not white. Now stay the fuck away from here.
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>>129178908
of course we have jew blood along with moor blood, but not in a significant quantity. Your own map proves this.
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>>129178183
I knew it. The spanish have so much semitic traits: they're dishonest, lazy, stupid, always try to take advantage of others for their own profit, deflect responsability, etc. That's why there is so much corruption and underground economy in this country.
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>>129178534
>>129178585
>>129179279
>>129179606
>>129179825
Nevermind the surnames. Do you realize what this means? You can expose the truth about (((them))) all you want. In public even. All you have to do is claim that Jewish heritage.
You are effectively immune to the "antisemite" card.
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>>129178183
I really don't care whether paella niggers are kikes or not, but that flag is an eyesore.
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>>129179825
Hello cousin. That is my surname also.

Yes, it's absurd. We know the origin of the surname and it has nothing whatever to do with Jews. That some Jews adopted it, as they did with other renowned names like Pereira, is clear. They did this to blend into the population, to make their foreignness less obvious to others. In general, I think the converso influence is vastly overestimated.
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Add iriarte to the list, my family were sephardic juden as well desu
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>>129180279
Except there are barely any jews here and we'll just look like madmen.

The extent of our knowledge about jews here is that "we burnt them or something idk lel".
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>>129180123
The map only proves you are not moor rapebabies. Y-DNA reflects paternal lineage only. Yet it says nothing about the maternal input. Do you deny the possibility that the native men simply married countless Marrano women over the centuries?
Jewish women are known to love them Goy Boys. Seduction is not a problem for the masters of deceit.
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What is:

>De La Portilla
>Soverro
>Noriega
>Melport
>Marin
>Rengifo
>Grazia

Help me out.
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>>129178183
So jews in eastern Europe became whiter, but jews in Iberia turned the population browner?
Is it just a difference in numbers? Or superior Slavic and Germanic genetics in comparison to Med genetics
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>>129180684
How is the (((EU))) not directly your problem?
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>>129181181
I'm pretty sure Ashkenazi Jews are not descendants of the original Israelis. Their origins probably lie somewhere in Central Asia. Or maybe the Khazar theory is true.
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>>129181181
Romans already called iberians swarthy, they didn't change our phenotype. The south was always darker than the north, only a fool would think otherwise.

>>129181230
It is, yet it'd be harder to convince us of the jews than a German or a Swede.
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>>129181017
Check this out.
http://www.enlacejudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/lista_de_apellidos_sefaradim_i.pdf
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while you are talking about irrelevant stuff islam has conquered another european country
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>>129181933
The jews who ''converted'' to Catholicism adopted already established celtic/spanish names you retard not the other way around.

Jewish people didn't invent any Gomez, Chaves or Noriega, they simply adopted common names used in the peninsula

If you look at the DNA of the British people they have more in common with spanish than spanish have with jews or arabs or whatever.
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>>129181933

Whew. I'm not a jude.
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The jews were persecuted in Visigoth Spania after they converted to cristianity. They were during the reconquista targeted and blamed for numerous disasters and in noumerous occasions you had spontaneous "matanzas" in big cities. For example, they were blamed for the black plague and a bunch of them were assasinated in Barcelona around the first half of the XIII century. The first "juderia" killings were in the Navarra Kingdom as an effect of the crusaders crossing the pyrenees and bringing that religious fervor with them.

See:https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecuci%C3%B3n_de_los_jud%C3%ADos_en_la_Hispania_visigoda

In other occasions they were protected. For example, when the Castillian army was headed towards what has been called as Batallas de Las Navas de Tolosa they had among their ranks a lot of crusaders -ultramontanos-, majority of them french, who refused to keep fighting and abandoned the fight because they thought we were being "permissive" with the andalusis in the conquered garrisons because it was a spanish costume to let them capitulate and not just straight kill them all. They find this repulsive and headed back to their countries, it is know that they marched along their way trough Toledo when they had in mind exterminate the ghettos and juderias inside them and it was the common populace who stood up against them closing the gates and defending them.

Both the expulsion of Jews in 1492 by the Reyes Catolicos through the Edict of Granada (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edicto_de_Granada) and that of the remanent Moors a century later (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsi%C3%B3n_de_los_moriscos) was nothing but a identity politique. That's where the problem of "cristianos viejos", "moriscos", "marranos", "limpieza de sangre" and "conversos" is. Spain needed to be seen in the eyes of their fellow Europeans as fully cristian and at the same time reject the so called "peaceful diversity" and "coexistence" of the three religions in the peninsula.
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>>129182502
>at the same time reject the so called "peaceful diversity" and "coexistence" of the three religions in the peninsula.

Which was nothing but a myth and more of a unequal relationship for more than 800 years.
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>>129182502
OY VEY
Pay reparations, goyim!!
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>>129182785
Can you elaborate?
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>>129182792
What did I say wrong? I'm not for the nationalisation of Sephardic Jews nor the so called Iberian diaspora. I'm not rejecting the "juderias" nor the problems and customs that they had among our ancestor.

I'm not denying the reasons that the Reyes Catolicos had for the expulsion of the Jews either. The castillian version blamed them for "heretica pravedad" which is basically being cryptojews, that is "falsos conversos". The aragonese version also cited "usury" and both of them had in mind the subversion which they were capable of.

"porque cada día se halla y parece que los dichos judíos crecen en continuar su malo y dañado propósito donde viven y conversan"
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>>129178183
I agree. Me myself look jewish-europoor mix.
131 IQ, but not as croocked.
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>>129181736
>Romans already called iberians swarthy
This is true. They were always the swarthiest among Western Europeans. So many hours of sunlight a year simply isn't hospitable without a darker pigmentation.
>>129182363
Of course Iberians are predominantly Western Europeans. My point was that Jewish blood was way more significant the the "moor rapebaby" meme.
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>>129182502
It is partly true, what you say in the first paragraph about the Visigoths. Catholic Visigoths did indeed persecute the Jews but the Arians did not, and treated them well. Witiza was of Arian stock, which is probably why the Jews were eager to fund his supporters in their rebellion against Roderic.

And I'm glad you mention the juderias. People who like to advance the notion of widespread converso blood among modern Iberians seem to be ignorant of the fact that Jews were relegated to literal ghettos, segregated from Christian society. It is literally impossible that there was much interbreeding by virtue of the fact that most Christian Iberians would have never even met a Jew in all their lives.
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>>129182905
Well, convivencia isnt the same as coexistencia. That would be a fine argument. In the peninsula during the califato omeya and taifas you had a dominant culture and marginal, completely submissive remanent of cristians and jews who were mistreated, taxed and slaved in numerous times. The "flower power" argument of peaceful and respectful living during the so called Golden age of islam is way overrated. There are a bunch of interesting books about this.
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>>129183544
I think we didn't do a second deportation of the jews just like the moors in 1600 with the moriscos, that's why
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>>129178183
¡Oh Vaya! Apaga abajo.
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>>129183627
Jews emigrated into Iberia before Christianity was a thing.
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>>129184068
And what's your point? These Jews lived mostly in El Levante, and along the southern coast which was by far and away the most urbanised region of Iberia. It is possible that they left some genetic legacy along the Mediterranean coast by virtue of this, but it seems unlikely that it would be more than negligible. The Jews, in accordance with Mosaic Law, have always been an inward-looking people, seldom marrying outside of their faith and outside of their clan. They remain this way, to a large extent, even today. I simply don't buy the "most Iberians have converso blood" nonsense.
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Iberians weren't nordic aryans at any point in history.
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>>129183627
>And I'm glad you mention the juderias. People who like to advance the notion of widespread converso blood among modern Iberians seem to be ignorant of the fact that Jews were relegated to literal ghettos, segregated from Christian society. It is literally impossible that there was much interbreeding by virtue of the fact that most Christian Iberians would have never even met a Jew in all their lives.

That is true, even when they were pushed to convert or just straight forced them, the so called "cristianos nuevos" were treated with distrust and for the most part marginalized. I'm not saying that they didn't had their reasons for this attitude but the case remains the same.

It has always been these way, the juderias serve both as a jewish garrison in which they could live among their equals and prospere and at the same time being effectually segregated to the rest of the majority cristian population. It is obvious that every kind of conflicts surfaced between these two groups but that doesn't mean it was the "best" of the solutions at the time.

It always amazes that the "joos narrative" apologists seem to forget that in medieval times, in fact, jews were nothing but a pest and were treated like so. I'm not denying that they could at the time, throught their business and usury, had all the money in the world too but that doesn't mean they were their rulers. Yes they provided financial support here and there but I don't think they were the instigators simply because in those times the reasons and virtue of the people were above materialistic -what is more representative of that than money, coins- struggles. Money can't buy social power and public opinions when the moral and ethics of the people were focused in other things... at the end, what could money give you in those days? They were no malls and mass produced goods. The struggle for honor and virtue were first.
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>>129178183

>King Manuel I of Portugal decreed that all Jews had to convert to Christianity or leave the country without their children. Hard times followed for the Portuguese Jews, with the massacre of 2000 individuals in Lisbon in 1506, further forced deportations to São Tomé (where there is still a Jewish presence today), and the later and even more relevant establishment of the Portuguese Inquisition in 1536.

>The Inquisition held its first Auto da fé in Portugal in 1540. Like the Spanish Inquisition, it concentrated its efforts on rooting out converts from other faiths (overwhelmingly Judaism) who did not adhere to the strictures of Catholic orthodoxy; like in Spain, the Portuguese inquisitors mostly targeted the Jewish New Christians, conversos, or marranos.

>The Portuguese Inquisition expanded its scope of operations from Portugal to the Portuguese Empire, including Brazil, Cape Verde, and India. Tribunals in Lisbon, Porto, Coimbra and Évora burned 1,175 persons, another 633 were burned in effigy and 29,590 were penanced. The Portuguese inquisition was extinguished in 1821.

Deus Vult
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>>129184481
nobody was "nordic aryan"in southern europe or even france faggot, ever heard of celts?
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>>129178534
my friend its called david garcia garcia, i still my surname is naranjo (orange tree) and thats a converted surname, i think i have some jewish genes even the other brand of my family is pure iberean
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>>129180954
well not a problem to me if the men is the one who marries and interbreed with other populations, guess thats why there are latinos hispanic race etc
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>1 in 5 Spaniards are Jews
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>Lebanese are 14% Jewish
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>Egyptians are 4% Jewish
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>>129180279
>implying we would throw to the trash our privilege.

Fuck off, you dont even know us? We teach the jews how to trick, we are masters of picardía.
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This guys was a kike.
>(((Salom)))
https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Salom
Good thing he died last year.
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>>129178183

disproportionate amounts of Conversos and Moriscos settled in Latin America, and in the later centuries of the Spanish Empire, the migrants arriving in Cuba and Puerto Rico were disproportionately Andalusian.

Andalusians, for obvious historical reasons, have a lot of Berber ancestry.


>presence of Moriscos and Muslims in the Spanish Americas,
http://gradworks.umi.com/33/56/3356702.html


>Moriscos made it to South America and became instrumental in forming the gaucho culture of that area.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRGGKESYgjg
Forbidden Passages: Muslims and Moriscos in Colonial Spanish America

frequent royal decrees prohibited Moriscos or Iberian Muslims, many of whom had been forcibly baptized at the beginning of the sixteenth century, from settling in Spanish America. But these laws, like so many others during the period, faced uneven enforcement. The extensive legislation prohibiting Morisco emigration has led many historians to assume

http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt1btc5zt


"De los Prohibidos": Muslims and Moriscos in Colonial Spanish America
Crescent over another horizon : Islam in Latin America, the Caribbean, and Latino USA

https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/11467160
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>>129190119
>part Jewish, part Mediterranean
>can't grow a beard
God has not chosen this man, that's for sure.
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>>129178183
The sephardic jews come from berber tribes in Morocco and in all of my existence i only saw 1 guy that kind looked like them and he's Leonardo Jardim. And he's from Madeira island so there's a chance he's just a descendant of a single case of an idividual migrating from those regions and not descendant of a mass migration, otherwise there would be a lot more.

As for the names, that's false, they're just spanish.
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>>129191994
>The sephardic jews come from berber tribes in Morocco

WRONG. If that were true why are they the closest related ethnic groups to ashkeNAZI jews?
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>>129192196
yes, ashkenazis are sicilians who happen to be berbers

> couscous al pesce
Couscous with fish soup is a traditional dish in Trapani, Sicily.
prooves why all the sigilianos look and act just as wild, aggressive and miserable as berbers and latinos. fuck moors


Il cuscus o cuscussù[1] (in francese couscous; in arabo magrebino كسكس; in berbero seksu con un significato in berbero) è un alimento tipico del Nordafrica e della Sicilia occidentale, e della Sardegna sudoccidentale (Calasetta, Isola di Sant'Antioco e Carloforte) dove prende il nome di Kaskà (pron. cashcà), costituito da agglomerati ovvero granelli di semola di frumento cotti a vapore (del diametro di un millimetro prima della cottura, poi dopo la cottura diventano sempre più grandi).


Couscous (Berber: ⵙⵉⴽⵙⵓ, Seksu) is a North African Berber[2] dish of small steamed balls of semolina, usually served with a stew spooned on top. Couscous is a staple food throughout the North African cuisines of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Mauritania and Libya and Sicily.
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>>129191808
>were disproportionately Andalusian
This is common knowledge in South America, by the way. People will jokingly mention that we have blood from the lowest people of the lowest European country.
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>>129178183
If you goys were watching your E Michael Jones you would know this already. why is South American countries like Argentina full of Jewish Occult shit everywhere? Because Columbus was a Merrano and so were most of the new world settlers from Spain . They were conversos/crypto Jews. The same thing with the Netherlands. When the Moors were defeated in Spain the Jews caught the wrath because they had been working with the moors to oppress Christians. When the Spanish turned on them they fled to Netherlands where they started up mercantilism and the international slave trade.
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>>129192785
we have berber jews and they are just as loud, annoying, rude, intrusive, recidivists their muslim brethren in france or catholic brethren in latin america

pic related is a berber jew who moved to israel recently
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>>129178183
Hahahaha WAT
Clearly you don't speak any of the languages.
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>>129193492
For example: what is Segobriga?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segobriga
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>>129193384
Whats the relation to Basque and Berbers? I thought there was some tie with them and the Gaunches of the Canary Islands who are now "extinct".
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>>129185300
Good times
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>>129185300
Good times.

Deus Vult

>>129191994

He's 100% lusitan stallion. How else could he cuck his Greek boss.
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>>129178908
The Jews were expelled, and I doubt much intermarrying happened anyway
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>>129194234
According to the black legend Spain at that time was both a multicultural breeding paradise and a dark hole of catholicism and inquisition.
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>>129193384
>>129192774
Which type of Jew is the best?
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Are you fucking retarded? Those are typical spanish names, sepharadic jews only took them.
Pere is a traditional spanish name / Perez, son of Pere.
Son of Ramiro, son of Hernando, Son of Fernando, Son of Jimena, Son of Lope.
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>>129195644
It's like saying Goldberg or Goldstein are Ashkenazic names, when they aren't. They are German names Jews took and ruined. (((Efron))) is a real Ashkenazic name.
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>>129193623
What are you on about? It is commonly accepted that Guanches must have had Berber origins. Maybe due to some north african or fenician-cartaghian expansion. The correlation among these and basques would be new to me.
>>129195273
kek
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>>129178183
You're basically saying 90% of Latin America has Jewish blood, along with a huge chunk of Spain. Fernandez and Ramirez are among the most common surnames here.
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>>129195989
I had come across some things recently showing a relation. Also something to do with increased RH- blood. Image related is from some Graham Hancock tier stuff but just substitute Atlantis for X and X being a common ancestor.
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>>129196363
Forgot the pic
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>>129191994
Jardim really look north african, he can easily pass as an algerian or something
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>>129195583
Ethiopian, Italkim, Karaites, Romaniotes
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>>129195583
They are all equally offensive
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>>129196749
t. Ethiopian jew
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>My first name comes from a hebrew word
>My last name is one used by the jews who were forced to convert

J U S T
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>>129196749
>Ethiopian

y do u sterilize them? :(
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>>129178183
>>Perez
>>Ramirez
>>Hernandez
>>Fernandez
>>Jimenez
>>Ortega
>>Lopez
>>Quevedo
>>Garcia
>>Ortega
>>Noguera
>>Sosa
>>Saavedra
>>Cortes
>>Aguilar
>>Mendoza
>>Morales
>>Segovia
>>Latorre
>>Leon
>>Valderrama
>>Zabaleta
>>Zapata
>>Zaldivar
Soooo.... all of them?
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>>129181933
that list is debunked bullshit
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>>129178183
Based paraguay
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>>129197888
Ive heard if you rub one grain of Zyklon B on each of your nipples for a year, it cures the Juden
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>>129178183
Garcia it's not jewish, it's from Navarra and mean bold or young. The Gartzias were 3 brothers reconquistadores who left navarra and fucked half of the peninsula.
Usually jew ones are the name of a workers: zapatero, herrero, vaquero... Or towns.
>>129180268
You mean andalusians.
>>129181181
Cartaginese, fenicians and berber in the south, also, the jews and muslims were converted visigoths, the arabs converted some berbers and hired them to attack Iberia, but the south was brown before arabs.
Probably bleached during reconquista with brits, francs, leoneses, navarros and castilians pushing from north. Also, Canary Islands were pretty brown before goths.
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Hey spanons and portuganons,lets be united and retake our glorious empire,finish the job and exterminate those shitskins in the name of god
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>>129178183
>His surname does not have a "de"
Fucking plebians, go back to toll the fields
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>>129180954
Wouldn't that be literally a jewish genocide?
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>>129178183
So we are all Jews, Moors and Niggers. I'm start to think you just don't like us.
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>>129180954
Eh, it's actually been the opposite. Most Jews paternal lines traces to the middle east, while their maternal line traces back to Italy/Europe. It seems Middle Eastern Jews conquered Roman woman and that's why we have these (((white))) mongrel Jews today
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I haven't met a single jew in my life as far as I know to the point that I considered them mythical beings. Jews were kicked from Spain and only now are they starting to return.
>captcha: calle calle
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>>129197888
don't worry João Pereira, there's nothing wrong with being a jew
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>>129196669
Most people from Madeira island do. Jardim is actually a very archetypal madeiran.
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>>129193384

they are like guidos from jersey shore, who are like latinos:

http://eriklevis.blogspot.com/2007/08/arsim-and-brawl.html
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(((Wikipedia)))
>According to a 2008 (((study))) by the American Journal of Human Genetics, 19.8% of the Portuguese population has some degree of Jewish ancestry.

> genetic signatures of people in the Iberian Peninsula provide new evidence that the number of Jews forced to convert to Christianity during Catholic rule in the 15th and 16th centuries was much greater than historians believed.
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>>129210911
>19.8% of the Portuguese population has some degree of Jewish ancestry.
Hence, perhaps, our neuroticism. Portuguese being chill is a myth propagated by the eternal anglo to bolster its allies. Disgusting.
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>>129178534
our presidenat from 207-2014 an done of the greatest men of this country was a perez and he was born in Belorussia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres
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>>129178183
Their swarthiness comes mainly from the sun, it's that simple. Iberian peninsula has the highest UV exposure in Europe. When I go to Spain for 2 weeks and bathe in the sun all day I come back looking swarthy as fuck too.
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What is the difference between spanish and portugese people? anybody have picture comparison for feautures?
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>>129178183
AYO HOL UP

no wait we jews now

I-IT'S ANODA SHOAH
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>>129212214
Portuguese are generally darker at least in my experience. Spaniards vary from blonde to dark. Others might argue.
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I meant a visual comparison. Not a chart.
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>>129178183
I always thought the dutchs were the actual jews and not iberians
When New Holland was formed here in Brazil a lot of jews came alongside the protestants, that would explain why the northeast (Region invanded by the dutchs) is the most race-mixed region of Brazil
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>>129213335
same same
the dutch jews escaped from iberia
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>>129213189
Why, what do you expect? I can show you blondes with blue eyes or brunettes with brown eyes from any European country.
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>>129211855
most ashkenazi jews are former sefards to joined the khazarian/kavkazi shtetls in eastern europe and ashkenazified.

netanyahu and peres are famous examples

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4807687,00.html

based on a DNA test, part of Netanyahu family is descended from Berbers who converted to Judaism

>Benjamin Netanyahu, who everyone was certain was a "pure" Ashkenazi, revealed Tuesday that part of his family tree hails from Berber tribes

Netanyahu explained this by saying, "my brother, Ido, is a writer and physician. People who write family trees based on DNA tests approached him. Their thesis was that Lithuanian Jews, and we are from a Lithuanian family who were descendants of the Vilna Gaon, have Berber roots."

Indeed, Ido Netanyahu had his saliva tested, and the test revealed that part of Netanyahu's family are of Sephardic ancestry.
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>>129212531
That's because we are homogenous and they are heterogenous.
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Hahahaha loosers everywhere
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>>129214473
remember when he said "my mizrahi genes have jumped"?
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>>129178183
True.
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>>129178183
>Iberians were JEWED, rather than MOOR'D

Bullshit,,if Spain and Portugal were JEWED they might actually have an average IQ over 85.
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>>129212214
Portugal
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>>129212214
Spain
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>>129214473
>>129214948
Shlomo Sand is that you?

Why are Israelis so dumb? You have none of the intelligence of those still in the diaspora.
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>>129215747
dude bibi the absolute madman said when he apologized for getting angry on one of is ministers that his mizrahi genes gave jumped
also that minister is mizrahi
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>>129215747
>You have none of the intelligence of those still in the diaspora
Exactly. The average IQ of Israel is 95. It's pretty sad, thanks to Zionism Ashkenazim are a dying race. The only true one remaining are in the US, but since they're 90% assimilating they're running extinct too. In Israel even the pure Ashkenazim were forcibly turned Mizrahi since it's the only way Mizrahim wouldn't kill them.

Israel was a mistake.
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>>129178183
Please nigger, we expelled them in 1492. Also created inquisition, who run till XIX century, just to be sure that noone escaped.
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>>129216107
95 is still higher than all our neighborers
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>>129215665
>>129215715
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>>129216107
>ashkenazi in goyimland
lel. you mean the gay pioneers in NYC, Bay Area? the ones that invented the gay movement and gay neighborhoods?

you, right ashkenazis aint poppin babies out the anus like they used to, cause now they got benis blockage

t. bay area and tel aviv ashkenazi
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>>129216107
I don't know, even sephardi Jews even France are more intelligent than those that live in Israel. The ashkenazi in Israel seem dumber than the ones that live outside of Israel too.
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>>129216668
my dad came from a national religious family and even tho hes now an atheist and askhenazi he had 3 kids
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could i get jew passport?
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>>129216859
fuck off we're full
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>>129216956
but i need a job
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>>129217130
unemployment is at 4.4 you wouldn't find a job
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>>129178183

jews were probably never particularly swarthy on the whole though. They should have been more or less as swarthy as native iberians themselves
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>>129216837
ok, a minority of gay/bi ashkenazis inseminated baginas, that is expected. there are even hasidic families that are all gay, father, son, daughter. they just put the shit-stained benis in the lesbians vagina when a baby is required.

it is standard

http://www.thoughtcatalog.com/tcguestwriters/2013/09/being-queer-and-jewish-in-ultra-orthodox-brooklyn/
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>>129217268
>4.4
LOL it is really low...thank for the info senpai
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>>129217408
did you just call my dad gay?
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>>129178183
OP, you're missing the mark. Yes, jews did have a presence in Iberia, but you should also highlight the consequence, i.e. the fact that a lot of sepharadim started another diaspora to the Americas. Most jews were either expelled, forced to convert, killed or embraced this as an opportunity to start a new life in a new world.

Brazil was JEWED from the moment the portuguese set foot here up to WW2.
Now we're basically JEWED by banks only.

To reiterate, none of the surnames you mentioner are jewish IN ORIGIN.


>>129213335
>>129214067
They weren't necessarily dutch, as the israeli pointed out, they just came here under the impression that they would enjoy religious freedom in Pernambuco. They did, until Portugal kicked them out, which started a new diaspora, this time to the caribbean and, most importantly, to Jew York. It is amusing how Pernambuco and New York are connected to some extent.
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>>129217268
you love us , dont lie :=) you have tons of argie inmigrants there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV9yiKQ4Wi0&t=617s
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>>129189705
Yet we do not have a (((Spaniard))) problem. Inquisitions need to get back to work.
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>>129214636
Expanding on this
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>>129217803
You wouldn't say that if you were a sudaca
:^)
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>>129217567
no, just the overall trends in Jewish society. gay experiences in Israel and Ashkenazi societies is pretty standard from an early age. just walking around you can see the guys with stains on their pants and the stench from recent rompings, Tel Aviv and all Jewish cities in goyimlands are also gay capitals.
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>>129218164
i don't get why people even live in Tel Aviv my grandpa lives in an uber comfy national religious town he has a farm and a tractor we are talking 50%+ vote for habait heyhudi national religious town
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>>129217844
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>>129218706
This is true for the other categories. Portugal ends up overperforming Spain in PISA, but their regional differences are immense.
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>>129215665
only 4 Portuguese there, and one has a cape verdian great grand mother
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>>129215580
>white 100
I guess Iberians aren't white according to you?
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>>129178183
This is stupid, those names are no jewish origin.
In the lands of Fernando in feudal times, the commoners with no distinctive surname used the patronimic one.
Fernando = Fernandez
Ramiro = Ramirez

Spain was antisemitic until freedom of cult law pass around napoleonic wars.
Before the expulsion of the jews in 1492 spanish population went from 1 in 10 to 1 in 3000
Law were aproved around that time called the institutions of blood purity, tha was implemented and used by the inquisition too to find false chrsitians.

http://www.plusesmas.com/genealogia/apellidos/de_donde_viene_mi_apellido/674.html
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2008/07/21/lapurezaestaenlamezcla/1216636800.html
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>>129219125
Portugal regional IQ as published by Richard Lynn circa 2011, it's also about 100. Keep in mind IQ and things like PISA are not static scores and generally climb with each generation, except if you import a million niggers obviously.
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>>129219412
anglos/northern europeans don't know that -es or -ez is a patronymic. They can only relate to -sson, -dottyr and the slavic patronymics. Tbqh it is also scarcely known here in Brazil.
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>tfw youre actually a jew
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>>129219837
In Portugal the son of Martim is Martins, for example.
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>>129219082
> one has a cape verdian great grand mother
What do you mean by cape verdian?

A ethnic portuguese living in the archipelago.
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>Iberians committed the greatest act of genocide throughout all of history, against native Americans, so that they could loot their gold and silver.

Yep, they're Jews alright.
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>>129220265
>A ethnic portuguese living in the archipelago.
maybe, but how do you know? it's more likely she was black or mixed, like most people from there.
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http://forgottenlanguages-full.forgottenlanguages.org/

Learn some history
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>>129220059
Yes, your neighbours also use Martinez if i'm not mistaken
>>129220564
here he comes, the eternal anglo
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>>129220265
>A ethnic portuguese living in the archipelago.
100% pure celto-lusitanian haplotype
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>>129216763
>The ashkenazi in Israel seem dumber than the ones that live outside of Israel too.
Think about it. It's natural selection. The stupid Ashkenazim tend to go to Israel which is clearly more dangerous to be then the US. The smart Ashkenazim/Sephardim/Mizrahim went to the west. This is why we have Shlomo Sand's and Eran Elhaik's in Israel that are so stupid.
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>>129220737
What you today is a slightly different population that they had back in the time in the time when you're a colonialist overlord.

Do you think the majority illiterate mestizos and black were all ruining the business there?
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