Polish Lvov, Polski Lwów

>>129170917

no russia it's not how it works

>you see, Poland used to have some Ukrainian clay and some drunk poles claim it's still theirs

>that's why we can send paramilitary in Ukraine to take clay over because it's the same thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiEMKb_JQRU

>>129170917
Yes. Also, give back kaliningrad oblast.

>>129171035
fuck off, it's polish since ~1200

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>>129170917
Yes of course.
>>129171035
>Poland used to have some Ukrainian clay
>Galicia
>Ukraine
Fucking retard. Do you even know what Ukraina means in Polish? The Ukrainian identity was formed only in the late 19th century and Ukraine became a state first in world history during the 20th century.

>PIDF diaspora in Sweden is here
Do you literally spend your entire day on /int/ and /pol/ spamming this shit

>>129171635
I do, because they took my job

t. not sure if a diasporak, but love Polish language and culture

>>129170917

no its ukrainian now. they massacred poles fair and square for it.

>>129171815
I'm talking about this guy >>129171505

>>129171825
so you will be chinese, cuck

>>129171505

holy shit, I did not realized Denmark should have Sweden because once upon a time it did, I am sure no national fucking identity developed during several hundred fucking years

>>129171825
they did nothing except killing the innocents. Lwów was taken by commies.

Without commies bandera's scum can only suck cock, like they everything do.

and don't mish up theese untermenshs with a normal ukrainians.

In Chechnya was killed a mayor, ukrainian by ethinicy. And theese cucks fought for people which killed him.

they are bioscum

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>>129171306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiekjno91WA

>>129170917
Do you agree with the fact that half of Poland is rightful German clay? Also Königsberg (Russian Kaliningrad) is GERMAN CLAY gib back

>>129170917
Y-yes please

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>>129170917
Pussian tears. So sweet.

>>129172237
>a region was german for ~ 170 years
>polish for the rest of it's existence
M-muh German clay.

Come and get it germ fag, that is if you can.

>>129172237
This but unironically

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>>129171888
>holy shit, I did not realized Denmark should have Sweden because once upon a time it did,
Lwów is 750 years old and had a Polish majority for 600 years. It was Poles who built up the city. Galicia and Volhynia were LEGALLY INHERITED by Casimir of Poland by a downward agreement and will of the Polish-Ruthenian prince of Galicia-Volhynia deceased in 1340. And already then, Poles made up a large part of the city because 50 years earlier many people from Kraków escaped an epidemic outbrake and moved to Lwów, and thus after 1349 when Lwów was incorporated into Poland, Poles became a majority very quickly in the 14th century. It was also during Casimirs rule when the city centre built mostly out of wood was moved few hundred meters and a street layout was laid out and a new old town was built by Polish architects. Lwów is Polish culture, architecture and history and no fake Ukrainian country built upon partitioned Poland will take that away.

>>129172352
How did you get out of cage Stepan?

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>>129172237
Poland literally created Prussia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Homage

P.S. It was a mistake.

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>>129172237
It can be your's again, Hans. Just one thing - speak the Prussian language. And it will be yours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dppCZDU7Zjg

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Pidorashka pls

>>129170917
>Lvov
I think you mean Lemberg

>>129172434
New germans displacements when?

>>129172867
t. Mikita Pidoraszko

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>>129172849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmSZW6f0s_Y

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>>129171825

No I do not.

Massive demographic changes after WWII made it extremely difficult to go back to the previous state. That's why Germans don't talk about getting Stettin and Breslau back. This is also why I don't think about Lviv as a Polish city that we lost. Furthermore, while Lviv was one of the most Polish-dominated cities in pre-WWII Poland, it was a kind of an enclave, surrounded by Ukrainian people from all sides. I'd be more than happy if Poland remained in its current borders forever.

But let's ask the real question here, dear Russki. Why did you of all people decide to start this thread?

Is it because it is in your interest for Poland and Ukraine to have difficult relations?

Is it because you want some justification for invading and annexing Crimea?

Is it because you feel like your political thinking is out of date since you can only think of other countries in terms of lands to conquer as if it was 2000 BC?

Is it because almost nobody wants to be a part of Russia, USSR or whatever so you have to force people to live in your country so you feel like you have to find a similar sentiment in other nations?

Is it because you think that if Polish people are Slavic they are as backwards-thinking as you are? As aggressive?

>>129172237
this

Preussen ist deutschland

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>>129171635
Meanwhile in Australia

>>129172875
I think he means Levgorod

>>129172973
It was a sacrasm, but it always triggers me how they destroyed prussian nation and took their name.

>>129172237
The eastern part of the Reich is to this day part of the German state. (Not of Mama Merkel's "Federal Republic of Germany", though. Thank god. Otherwhise half of Breslau would be turkish by now.)

>>129172781
>getting cucked by your own creation
Pathetic, honestly. Also
>ignoring Pommerania, Brandenburg and Silesia

>>129172980
All the Poles from UK, Sweden and etc should be deporthed and live in Lwów.

If ukrainians are normal - they can stay. If bandera's scum - prison or deporthation. That's all.

also Poles in the east Germany should stay, because it's a slavic lands.

No, its not. Its ukrainian and always was.

Russia has shills allover the place trying to make it look like we give a shit

Poland is being swamped by paid russian posters

>>129173163
fuck off Mikitko

żaden Polak będzie mówił taki bzdur i wygląda na to że jestes 100% ukraińcem - wypierdalać z Polski kacapie

>>129172434
Be careful what you widh for

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>>129172980

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>>129172980
>Furthermore, while Lviv was one of the most Polish-dominated cities in pre-WWII Poland, it was a kind of an enclave, surrounded by Ukrainian people from all sides.
That happened because of the fucking Austrian partitioners of Poland pushing this new fake Ukrainian identity on the peasants of these lands in the second half of the 19th century.

>>129173163

>Russia has shills allover the place trying to make it look like we give a shit

This.

I have literally never heard anyone talk about getting Lviv back or getting our pre-WWII borders back. Literally never. NOBODY GIVES A SHIT.

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How is this even possible?

Ukraniain GDP still 30% below 1990 levels.

>>129173122
Breslau's population is mostly composed of the Poles deported from Lvov. They just moved the population of one city to another.

>>129173222

In Polish we would say:

żaden Polak NIE będzie mówił takiCH bzdur i wygląda na to że jestes 100% ukraińcem - wypierdalać z Polski kacapie

Your Polish isn't as good as you make your employers think, dear Russki. Also, 'kacap' is a word for a Russian, not Ukrainian.

Fuck off.

>>129173268
Or what, you'll meme me to death with your neckbeard superpowers? Spam grossgermanium memes?

Fag.

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>>129173347

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>>129173058
Exactly. Slavs are closer to Balts that fucking Germs.
>>129173132
Not only it btw, but by two other powers teaming up with it. Prussia on its own couldn't do shit.
>>ignoring Pommerania, Brandenburg and Silesia
Huh, what was that???

>>129170917

Oh look, it's that same damn thread again. Russia inciting Poland vs Ukraine strife.

>>129173163
>>129173364
kys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVXnm8K7QwQ

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>>129170917
Yes, at least they will be able to remove the trash. Together with the human chochłoswine trash, hopefully.

>>129173474
>Also, 'kacap' is a word for a Russian, not Ukrainian.

тaк и зaпишeм - кaцaп

>>129173576
Nawet liberal Maciejczuk już ma dosc

Ja nie chce tego ale wyglada na to ze bedzie wojna polsko-ukrainska

>>129173474
I knew about the first, it's just a habbit from Russian

>>129173576
>Ukrainians give a nazi's names to street
>IT'S A RUSSIAN'S FAULT

Fuck off Macierewicz

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>>129173493

as some one who is part Ukrainian I support a Ukrainian polish union even if it would mean that Ukrainians would be forcibly assimilated into polish culture. Ukrainians aren't an ethnic group but rather a mix of different Slavic groups and a bit of indo European due to Scythian expansion. because of this many people who call themselves "Ukrainian" are either in the west and mostly polish or in the east and most similar to ethnic Russians. if the western bit of Ukraine joined Poland which is really the worlds last major European ethnostate the result would be incredible and would do leaps and bounds to strengthen and unify eastern europe

r*ssia is rightful Mongol clay

>>129173459
I'm perfectly fine with the eastern part of Germany being administered by Poland at the moment.
At least they are keeping it white.

>>129171351
That should belong to Germany.

>>129173536
That image you posted is from the year 1020, the 11th Century. The Polish state had existed for less than 100 years at that point. Brandenburg and Pomerania both became "German" in the 12th Century, Silesia a few centuries later. If Lviv is Polish, Pomerania, Brandenburg and Silesia are German.

>>129174005
Shut up, our you won't have Odessa

>>129173758
but you are subhuman, maybe proxy

no self-respecting russian will learn how to speak polish language, because polish is an irrelevant language of peasants.

>>129174035
Fuck off, anglo.

If LvOv (write it correctly faggot) is Polish, that means that is Polish.

West Poland is a repeartions from war. And it's a big question, should germans have Berlin or not.

Will poland gladly exchange it to western parts taken from germany?

>>129173837
>>Ukrainians give a nazi's names to street

why are you changing the subject, paid ruski shill?

is it because that's in your script?

MEMO TO ALL: /pol/ and t_d has a problem with acknowledging that Russia is massively financing foreign influence through paid internet trolls and financing of all kind of subversive and disruptive movements, INCLUDING NATIONALIST MOVEMENTS.

You have a problem with agreeing to this, because it would make Trump's presidency look illegitimate, so your first instinct is to deny this.

Let's face one fact: paid russian trolls can impersonate every other nation flag and create unlimited amounts of false flags and infighting, and we won't be able to prove anything, because this is an ANONYMOUS board.

>>129174260
We'll take both, rightful Polish claim from gerfagia, and annex you.
Lwów powróci do macierzy.

>>129174260
I know its a larp but when shit hits the fan in western Europe a polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian superstate would be much better poised to fight for the white race then a divided Slavic and Balkan area

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>>129173758
>Ja nie chce tego ale wyglada na to ze bedzie wojna polsko-ukrainska
If banderites get into power, but that's very unlikely, but more likely for every year that passes. These fucking idiots - this Ukrainian identity only materialized in the 19th century - literally hit their heads and want Kraków.

>>129174339
It's Putin shoted the polish consulate in Luck?

It's a reason to war, but your Kaczyński is wanna to sit on two chairs.

>>129174384
>do macierzy
>Named in honor of the Leo, the eldest son of Rus' King Daniel of Galicia, it was the capital of the Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia
kek

>>129170917
Yes, and Podkarpatská rus belongs to Czechoslovakia.

>>129170917
Yes.
Gas the chochols.

>>129174384
Seriously, let's exchane to SZCZCZCHZECHIN (Stettin) or wrocwow (Breslau). Lwiw expats live here anyway.

>>129173391
It's pretty obvious. The soviet factories got old and stopped producing, they began to be slowly replaced because they got a lot of credits pre-2008, then everything went to shit. And after 2014 it got even shittier.

>>129174339
>implying russians have the time to do autistic shit like this

We don't receive welfare złoty for sitting on ass and (not) having children, Przemysław.

>>129174591
>>Named in honor of the Leo, the eldest son of Rus' King Daniel of Galicia, it was the capital of the Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia
Sure, but Galicia-Volhynia was inherited legally by Casimir and Poland in 1340. >>129172652

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boles%C5%82aw-Jerzy_II

>>129174640
not all they, I have an ukrainian mate (not from Ukraine) and he is 100% fine, and even pro-Polish

>>129174588
>It's Putin shoted the polish consulate in Luck?

Yes, it was a Russian false flag.

>It's a reason to war,

war between Ukraine and Poland because of a Russian false flag? That's what Putin wants.

>>129174591
>>129174650
go back to work, butthurt won't give u zloty

>>129171505
THIS!
Ukraina in polish means "by the borders" (of Poland)

"Ukrainians" (Rusins) are so cucked that name of they "nation" means no more, then "borderlands of Poland"

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>>129174640
Bez przesady. Only the banderite scum.
By that I mean expell to Ukraine (Dniepr). >>129171505

>>129175039
Will poland take Krolewiec as well? You need more clay and room for polish race.

>>129174067
Odessites don't really like us after WW2. Also, not that we wouldn't want such a big port for the economy, however it is near Budjak, not in it, which means it was never inside the permanent borders of a Romanian state.

>>129175232
I think Poland should take Belarus, but save Russian as the official language of region, maybe even autonomy

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>>129175039

>>129175282
Odessa is a Jew town and you wuz nazis n shit

>>129172980
Crimea is a rightful russian clay,Ukraine only got it because Chruszczow was Ukrainian, and for that time it was more convinient, but netherless, there are no Ukrainians on Crimea and never were any

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>>129175347
>I think Poland should take Belarus, but save Russian as the official language of region, maybe even autonomy
Okay... fuck off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXlagbg9qkM

>>129173155
half of Germans has slavic genes, soo....

>>129175469what's wrong?

>>129175282
There never was any permanent borders of Romania. We actually rarely see romanians here in Odessa. Why we have so little interaction and shit between Romania and Ukraine? I met a lot of polaks here, moldovans, bulgarians, yet no single romanian.

>>129175469
To be honest, nobody actually wants to take Belarus here in Poland. Their cities near Polish border could be a part of Poland, because they look more Polish than Russian, but the rest should stay Russian/White-Russian in my opinion.

>>129173163
Pojebało cię zjebie?! Lwów ukraiński?!

Ty chyba jestes jednym z tych debili którzy bardziej nienawidzą Rosji niż kochają Polskę.

>>129175232
Here's the plan:
>send every ukrainian from Poland to Królewiec
>tell them it's an ancient ukrainian clay
>they fight with ruskies about it, getting destroyed, ruskies use too much ammo
>take both Królewiec and ukraina
>???
>PROFIT

>>129175387
I visited Odessa. And was inside the catacombs. And by the narrative of that 70+ yo lady guide, those people hate Romanians. I remember I made sure my Romanian passport wasn't visible.

>>129171635
Hello I am with the PIDF, you called?

>>129175603
Romanians are "white" supremacist (kek, white gypsies (!!!)) and only travel to da west

>>129175560
Belarusians are bros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRbBHo2sGXE

>>129175815
This

>>129173910
THIS
many of Ukrainians that immigrated to Poland say directly
>"I can become Polack"
they feel, that "ukrainians" means shit, not like "Polish"

Lviv is rightful Galician Rus' clay. Poles and Muscovites and Kyivans can fuck off.

>>129175603
>Implying Moldovans aren't Romanians
Being a Moldovan myself, I have to tell you that you should end this meme. Also, Romanians do not really have business around Odessa, as they have their own decent port nearby in Constanta. So we can directly get all the Turkish shit that Odessa gets.

>>129174137
>of peasants
HAHAHAHAHA
we are nobles nation, you are peasants one, always Poles where on higher level of culture and development then ukrops, we were reacher and we ruled you, so SHUT UP and show me ukrops Chopin, Copernicus, Banach, Mickiewicz, Skłodowska-Curie, Słowacki, Sobieski and so on and so on

>>129170917
fuck you ivan
we all know that the if we anex lwów Germongols will annex east part of Poland
besides we don't need a bunch of dirty banderowców in our territory

>>129174560
that's retarded in so many ways I can't even

how barbarian, stupid and poor peasant nation like ukrops defeat us?

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>>129173910
>even if it would mean that Ukrainians would be forcibly assimilated into polish culture.
Ukrainian culture is literally Polish culture mixed in with a bit of Russian. There would be no Ukrainian idenity today if not for Poland, they would be Russians otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAx4HUb04w8
>>129175881
>they feel, that "ukrainians" means shit, not like "Polish"
Because being Ukrainian mean you were a Pole from the Ukraina (Dniepr) region. Just like you were a Pole from Masovia or Greater or Lesser Poland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqVQmRmlH14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0rpDE4rcYA

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We are waiting for the powerful Polack army.

>>129175757
Some bullshit soviet propaganda. Since Bessarbia was fucked by communists they used to tell some scary damage control stories, people here don't know a thing about Romania and don't have any opinion. Some bessarabian minorities, like local "bulgars" really salty about Romania, though. They do hate romanians, but they hate everyone so this is not a big thing.

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>>129170917
fuck off kikes, you wont stir up a conflict here

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>>129176388
I bet many of you would greet us as liberators lulz.

>>129176388
You can't even fight Putin's fanclub in your own country. How do you expect to fight on both sides with real army against?

>>129176388
>bragging about killing civilians like true barbarians

you are animals indeed

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>>129176388
Remember this.
Flag of Bohdan Khmelnytsky. Bohdan (Б) Khmelnytsky (Х), hetman (Г) of Army (B) of Zaporozhia (З) and of his (E) king's (К) majesty (MЛC) of Rzeczpospolita.

>>129176102
I am not "ukrainian" and not ukrop for sure.

Poles were mostly peasants, their cities were undeveloped. Polish is a language of abused peasants.

Western ukrainians also were peasants, that is why ukrainian is also a language of peasants. It was modified by commies in 1920 to sound even more peasantish

that russian spoke polish, it means that he is subhuman or non-russian, russians know only russian, local, and language of their enemies and competitors: english, german etc. it is a shame to speak language of lower people

>>129170917
Yes. It was majority Polish and Jewish for centuries .
Germans purged the jews and soviets expelled all Poles and brought in rural ukie bydlo.
It was a beautiful city and now it's rundown and literally drowning in garbage.
Seriously fuck khokhols, they are retarded scum.

>>129171035
Learn some history, retard.

>>129171351
Not to you though. It belongs to Germans.

Here is the deal:
1. Nuke silesia.
2. Nuke Kalingrad.
3. Store nuclear waste in Ukraine.
Everyone is happy this way.

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>>129176609
>Poles were mostly peasants, their cities were undeveloped. Polish is a language of abused peasants.
You moron. Polish was the main language in eastern Europe during the 16th and 17th century. Muscovite royal court and boyars spoke Polish for over a century during the 16-17th centuries at it was seen as an aristocratic and noble language of the higher classes which gave you more status.

AN RUSSIAN AUTHOR WROTE
>In the past, polonisation and latinisation of the Russian people would have been to the ruin of its spiritual self-existence, its national visage. Poland descended upon the Russian East with a sense of its own cultural superiourity. The Russian spiritual type seemed to the Polish not some other spiritual type, but simply a lower and non-cultural condition.

>Altogether different is the Polish soul. The Polish soul -- is aristocratic and individualistic to the point of morbidity, in it so powerful is not only the sense of honour, connected with the knight-chivalrant culture unknown to Russia, but also an obdurate ambition. This is the most refined and elegant soul within Slavdom, drowning in its own suffering fate. Pathetic to the point of affectation. The mannerisms of the Polish soul always strike Russians as artificially elegant and sweet, lacking in simplicity and directness, and repelling in its sense of superiourity and suspiciousness, of which the Polish are not free. The Polish have always seemed lacking in a sense of the equality of human souls before God, of brotherhood in Christ, as connected with the acknowledging of the infinite value of each human soul. The unique spiritual aspect of the Polish nobility has poisoned Polish life and played a fateful role in its state destiny. Russian man is little capable of such scorn, he does not love to give another man the feeling, that he is lower than him. Russian man is proud in his humility. The Polish soul however draws upward.

http://www.berdyaev.com/berdiaev/berd_lib/1914_178.html

>>129171825
They massacred some. But if not for the soviets, it would still be majority Polish.
Ukies are to dumb to accomplish anything.

>>129176079
I don't care, but we have planty ties and business and tourism with moldovans and none with romanians, so this is really a thing. Why you call yourself Moldovan if you Romanian and can't see any difference? Some imperial butthurt like in poles?

>>129174005
germany does not have a right to exist. i want poland to take over

>>129172352
Crimea river.

>>129172867
You have to go back, Mykola.

>>129176079
>*plenty

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>>129170917
mandatory picture

>>129176404
We actually occupied Odessa in WW2 and deported some kikes.
As for the bulgars, they hate us cause they fear us. They were brought to Budjak to replace the local population. They should have been genocided somewhere between 1918-1939 when we had control over the region.

>>129173355
Germany gets Eastern Brandeburg, Silesia and Pommeriana. The territory between Germany, Baktic Sea, Russia, Estonia, Slovakia, Romania and Czech Republic goes to Poland.
Problem solved

>>129177133
Fuck off.

>>129177133
>Pommerania German

>>129173347
In your wet dreams, khokhol. And why aren't you in ATO? Shouldn't you be fighting for you "rightful" clay???

>>129172352
>>129177002
Xaxaxaxa ))))))

>>129173355
This.

>>129176878
Funny that Berdyaev is a muslim tatar surname

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>>129176559
so ?

>>129173355
Checked, agreed.
Finally someone who knows history more than just from jewpedia.

>>129170917
Tell poles to give back Schlesien then they may have everything up to Wladiwostok

>>129176878
eastern europe had only peasants
after discovery of america they became abused peasants because profit from dangerous lands dropped to ZERO

they exported grain and shit to western europe in exchange of goods

another part of eastern europe - russian, was a militaristic and trade empire that was based on cities.

after great nothern war russia adopted protectionism and developed industry. poles still were peasants

soon russians partitioned poland because it became non-country and their peasnats became unproductive

17 century was long ago, so russians learned language of their enemies, poland was a country with very big and rural population that was rulled by oligarchs. later russians stopped to learn polish because poland stopped to be relevant
polish nobility was so ashamed of their rural country that they even created "sarmatism@ lol.

russians also spoke german, swedish, turkish, tatar, french etc etc.

>>129177179
Yes, I know it's not really fair for the Germans, but Poland can't say they got too few clay. Perhaps we should give Danzig to the Germans as compensation for Kaliningrad

>>129174591
And then it got taken by Poland and was Polish for centuries. And now it's ukr*nian only thanks to soviet scum...

>>129177103
>We actually occupied Odessa in WW2 and deported some kikes.
Locals don't know a shit about war and usually think it was germans. They not aware about 1940 liberation of bessarabia as well and used to think it was ukrainian land since 1917 and some prehistoric times.

>>129170917
Poland is rightful russian clay.
Poland can have Lvow, but we will have Poland.

>>129175071
How does it mean that

U granic

U krain?

>>129172434
170 years that brought more civilization than you're entire history before

>>129176994
I call myself Moldovan because I was actually born in the Republic of Moldova. The difference is not that big if you compare with the Romanians near the border. Just a small difference in accent and the fact that we know Russian, so we curse in Russian :) The differences among Romanians themselves from distinct historical regions are observable, so when a Moldovan comes and points out how special he is, Romanians are like 'welcome to the club pal'

>>129177410
It was longer ours, since ancient times, than yours.
We'll leave you only northern Brandenburg to exist after WWIII. There will be no germany in the future.
>>129177547
Ok, but Russia is rightful chinese clay.

>>129175943
>t. proud diaspora ragul'

>>129177558
I don't know about you guys,
but here "U krajini" means "In the vicinity" or "In the neighborhood".

>>129171851
Yep he's diaspora.

>>129177479
> And now it's ukr*nian only thanks to soviet scum
We was part of it. So all is ok.

>>129177547
9 X 1610 ... don't tempt us Sasha.

>>129176388
>proud about killing civilians
You are worse than scum. And Poles pushed your shit in after WW1.

>>129177674
>implying that he is not raghul

>>129177558
U krainy
U kraju (Na skraju/U granic kraju/u granic krajów)

Eastern Europe is RIGHTFUL Sarmatian clay.

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>>129177436
>eastern europe had only peasants
YOU IDIOT. 10% of Poland's population were nobles - over a million people, the highest amount of any European country (or country in general to my knowledge). Polish nobles consited out of ethnic Poles, Ruthenians (Podolians, Volhynians, Ukrainians etc. and Belarusian Litwins) and Lithuanians, even few Germans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocPVPynYaAk

>>129177853
Leh*

>>129176609
But ukies are even worse then. Peasants of peasants.

>>129177436
Russian spoke polish because it was in good fashion to do it.

Polish was a language of culture in eastern Europe. Every man who wanted to be civilised had to know it. It was a language of saloons, poetry and law.

Polish culture is a culture of nobles not peasants like ukrainian. I agree, there where many peasant, but most of those who spoke polish where "royal peasants", they cultivated state (kings) land, which mean, they positions was much better and for example ukrainians, they where protected by state law and so on.

Russia was always poorer than Poland, even AFTER partitioning Poland was the reachest country in whole of Empire, and Poles like Germans were Empires thinking classes, engineers, medics, architects - most of them where Polish.

>>129177859
polish nobles are like the bandit leaders in prison - they were still scum compared to good people

also 90% were still true peasants lol

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>>129177800
>proud about killing civilians
>civilians

>>129177800
I BET that If we let you in to our bel9ved civilised country from your shithole, the next day you would beg polish masters to become Polish like many others ukrops here.

Your mother is probably cleaning my toilet right now. We had many ukrainians servants, but usually they still so we sack them and report them. IT'S TRUE ANTON and you know it

>>129176878
btw.
berdiaev is a piece of irrelevant shit. all russians liberals are self-hating and have butthurt because they are uncompetitive.

in masculine capitalistic and hierarchical society there is no space for weak.

they justify their existance by spreading shit.
>>129177859
majority of than so-called nobles were poorfags and NEETS, they were not able even to fight ( and it was a main duty of nobility in good countries)

they were like noble NEET lol

you need high productivity to support at least 1 noble and his family. economy based on peasants cant support large nobility.

you can spread bullshit but not on right-wing site lol

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>>129178041
>polish nobles are like the bandit leaders in prison - they were still scum compared to good people
You dumb? What is this, Taras Bulba propaganda.
And again...
>Polish nobles
>Polish nobles consited out of ethnic Poles, Ruthenians (Podolians, Volhynians, Ukrainians etc. and Belarusian Litwins) and Lithuanians, even few Germans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHbAsgaEEEI

>>129170917

Of course.

>>129178280
Why polish "people" so obsessed with toilet meme?

>>129170917
It's full of cockholes. They ain't going anywhere without genocide. And even if they'll go the are still will be backwater ruined shithole. I, for one appreciate our new western border.

>>129177937
yes, they are peasants of peasants, thats why communists and jews decided to replace "malorossians" with "ukrainians"

peasants are easy to rule, they are poor, weak and stupid

thats why ukrainians government today tries to spread this canceroid culture.

>>129177001
Poland is now decent because they got money from Germans. Plus if you try to remove Germans and they will fucking wreck everything again.

>>129171888
Good point. Kalmar Union 2.0 when?

>>129173355
Redraw the borders again. Make all that contiguous pink one country. Return clay to Germany. P/L Commonwealth reborn.

>>129178549
you know that "german money" is a meme, and when you sum it, it is like 1% of GDP

>>129177969
they didnt speak polish

few of them knew polish and other languages because they had many wars with poland, that is the only reason.

russians do not care about fassion.

>>129178495
>the are still will be
Fucking fever, but you have the idea.

>>129178637
>Polish "people" actually believe this.

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>>129178315
>( and it was a main duty of nobility in good countries)
And that's what they did, not everyone but still. That's how Polish-Lithuanian armies were fielded, because the king had almost no army and relied on the magnates and noble hetmans to field the armies for him.
>also 90% were still true peasants lol
The rest were city folk, merchants, craftsmen and peasasnts, or even royal peasasnts with more rights and cossacks (warrior class).
Catherine of Russia was so butthurt that Russian peasants were escaping to Poland for a better life that she wrote to Poniatowski, before the partitions, that he should stop them. Top kek. Even people from Austria and other nations came to Poland for a better life for centuries, because Poland had more rights and freedoms than any other country in Europe (maybe besides Holland).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEONLGOSnZQ

>>129170917
And Silesia, Pomeranian and Prussia belongs to germany

>>129178637
Often a little push in the right direction is what separates a decent state from a failed one. A small amount of money to maintain the communist era factories before they get old and out of order is all that you need to cover up the lack of productivity caused by the transition.

>>129178041
>Russian education
What are cities.

>>129178966
And uk belongs to France.

>>129179057
Something that either Germans or Soviets built.

>>129178875
You fuckers take your school "history" lessons to the level of some marxist tier propaganda. So everething in the world we have people should be gratefull to poland?

>>129178875
then they were pathetic lol
poland was partitioned despite 10% of families were capable to fight lol

10% of your population were neets, 90% - peasants. cities produced nothing, gold was depleted.

it was reverse - polish peasants were escapping to russia,
same did german, serbia peasants etc. volga germany emerged in times in that times.

life in poland was so shitty that they had peasant war every 25 years - with each generation of 10% noble NEETs lol that were so poor that obeyed to jews. jews ruled all economic life

that is why you was not conquered, but partioned like a colony LOL

>>129178875
>Catherine of Russia was so butthurt that Russian peasants were escaping to Poland for a better life
well judging by your actual flag something clearly went wrong

>>129179267
>hohol using /"history"/ in post about Poland
holy kekoly

>>129179115
False. And if you bring up the Avengians, they should have inherited the french crown, making france ruled by the british royal family.

But alsace and lorraine are german, so.

>>129176994
moldovians are romanians you dummy. It's like saying texans are not americans just because they talk a little weird .
There is about 0 difference between us , maybe expect the fact that they are forced to learn russians because ... oh well, USSR had a plan to make sure this time that regions stay under russian control.

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>>129178647
>few of them knew polish and other languages because they had many wars with poland, that is the only reason.
You idiot, Polish language and culture was VERY attractive at that time and thus the boyars and Muscovite royal court spoke Polish, just like Peter the Great spoke French in the 1700's. Muscovite boyars even wanted a Polish tsar (Sigismunds son) if he turned Orthodox because they wanted to join the Polish sphere and have more freedoms and rights just as in Poland because Polish law = freedom of religion, tolerance, freedom of speach and writing etc. etc.. Russian laws were totaliarian and Muscovite boyars felt suppressed by them. Of course Sigismund fucked everything up, but that's another story.

>>129179489
It's gonna belong to France in the future (according to Nostradamus), and there won't be any germany, except brandenburg. So yeah, you may say false.

>>129179482
You understand, it's usually just memes, like religion? Oh, wait.

>>129179329
>10% of your population were neets, 90% - peasants. cities produced nothing, gold was depleted.
Are you even trying
>poland was partitioned despite 10% of families were capable to fight lol
And? In other countries with forceful military service the numbers were higher.
>it was reverse - polish peasants were escapping to russia,
Source for that
>Life in poland was so shitty that they had peasant war every 25 years
Poland had literally 0 peasant wars or uprisings.

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I have flushed your problems in the Polish manner.
You may thank me later.

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>>129179267
>Ukraine
>hisotry

>it was reverse - polish peasants were escapping to russia,
Holy shit kill yourself you pathetic liar...

>life in poland was so shitty that they had peasant war every 25 years
Except there weren't any? If you mean cossacks which were a warrior class of semi-independent folk then you're a moron.

>>129179527
No, learning Russian in schools isn't compulsory anymore. On the other hand all the kids watch Romanian dubbed minimax, cartoon network etc. So expect closer ties in the next years.

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>>129179461
Yeah, it did...

>>129179624
>Nostradamus said....

You wot m8?

>>129175815
Zmahar's scum aren't bros. You just didn't read what they are thinking. Most of them pro-ukrainians.

>>129180022
>Zmahar's scum aren't bros. You just didn't read what they are thinking. Most of them pro-ukrainians.
Belarusians are in general very misguided and sadly Russified or Sovietized. But some of them still know their Lithuanian Polish noble roots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV35JITAdQE

>>129179850
yeah. I'm sorry. Wanted to say "they were forced " because I was talking about USSR times .

Anyway our situation it's one of the most stupid things you can see . We did not have a war agains us like Korea or to have major differences and I know most romanians see you like brothers. Sadly... politics. You politicians don't want to give up the power they have as "president", "senators" because they will be just lowlife mayor or less and they are scared of that. Your politics are what we had in 90' with tons of corruptions and local mobs . Sad , but we will have to wait and trust the future.

>>129179985
Yeah, read his prophecies. Not only he mentioned that what I said.

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>>129173484
>"Or what, you'll meme me to death with your neckbeard superpowers? Spam grossgermanium memes?"
>Some polish guy in 1939 after the germans demanded Danzig
>gets conquered in a month
wew

>>129179857
What will you do when Sweden inevitably becomes like this? You have to go back before they close the borders for traitors.

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>>129173484
Such internet balls on a Polish person !

>>129177667
>Poles think they can beat Germany in a war
You guys are delusional

>>129179809
Really, you have 10 polaks in the room and all of them look different. This is because you such an ethno state? And poland so ready to take credit for every thing in the world, despite polish "nobles" rarely even knew they are poles or speak polish.

>>129179985
>>129180234
Lol... he literally mentioned that Europe is going to get flooded by Africa trough the Mediterrenian Sea by boats and that Poland will became a beacon of hope for Europe and a great power again or some shit...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTKy3RyKmGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BO7C_9xizk

>>129170917
I think it COULD happen.

And I think it could go peacefully.

Especially as Ukraine is in need of help because of the conflict with Russia.
I imagine it to go like this:
>Ukraine can't into EU, but wants very much.
>Because Ukraine doesn't match the requirements for EU membership, it can't go in as a country. So Poland offers to take Ukraine in, and by extension, into the structures of EU. (the question is if the EP would allow that? I guess that even if not, we could still do that and screw the EP).
>Our governments already cooperate, so it could be done without any sudden changes.
>Ukraine becomes officially part of Poland, but retains language and local structures to avoid creating opposition. Could be identified as one of the voivodeships, but with extended laws.
>Another main question is, if it would end the conflict with Russia. If yes, then it's highly probable that people would see this annexation into Poland as something good, and chances are no unrest would arise.
>Poland gives help to rebuild Ukraine. Lots of work means lots of jobs, quick economic growth backed by Polish resources. We would have to work hard to reduce the corruption in Ukraine. Maybe even to the point of replacing the whole government.
>Ukraine would turn Polish in a couple decades. Their culture isn't that different. Probably something akin to Silesian identity would form.

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>>129180286
In my own time somewhere in the future.
>>129180403
>despite polish "nobles" rarely even knew they are poles or speak polish.
Wow, the bait is very strong in this one.

>>129180207
Will you take us to glorious Romanian kingdom? Romanian embassy throw romanian passports here like crasy, even I can apply to romanian citizenship and get it in two years.

>>129180387
You're right. We won't beat them in war. We'll just defend ourselves, because they're already beating themselves. It's gonna be lethal move for them to invade us once again.
>>129180454
Yeah, and Poles (same for French) are gonna have their own king once again.

>>129180207
>Anyway our situation it's one of the most stupid things you can see .
That's our history in a nutshell. Even before the times that we wuz romanz.
Another question is does Romania need this shit? Md is poorer so every Romanian will live with the impression that he could be richer, the infrastructure could be better etc. if the money didn't go to md. Romanians will end up hating and despising Moldovans if we do this prematurely.

>>129180570
>Wow, the bait is very strong in this one.
Because you can't refute ?

>>129178242
This for 100x xD
Also we dont have to occupatw lwów,when russians go west, lwów will want to JOIN great Poland
Also russians are not slavs

>>129172980
this so much

>>129180580
well if you give citizenship to all the citizens of a country, you own that country

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>>129180618
>Yeah, and Poles (same for French) are gonna have their own king once again.
So God help us. Szczęsć Boże. xD
>>129180805
No, because you cannot prove it and your stupid. Nobles were the part of Poland's society that cherished and propagated Polish culture and identity the strongest. The nobles were part of the Polish nation (or Lithuanian, even tho most Lithuanian nobles Polonised themselves because Polish culture was so strong and attractive).
Natione Polonus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-Lithuanian_identity

http://www.wilanow-palac.pl/gente_ruthenus_natione_polonus_pochodzeniem_rusin_narodowoscia_polak.html

>Gente Ruthenus, natione Polonus

All ethnic Poles, Ruthenians (aka Ukrainians), Lithuanians nobles were part of the Polish nation.
Just like Americans in the U.S. today are Americans, but of many ethnicities.

>>129180791
We are used to be poor ;))))) Ceausescu made sure we know how bad can it get and everything above that we think it's great.

Sad to say but I think romanians suffered the most during USSR and we just took it . We understood it was for the good of our country to erase out debt and the second it was payed and that fool continued to starve us out, we gived him lead. And the attitude didn't go away. Even in the recent years with the recensions , Romania was almost the only country who took austerity messures as they were specified by Germany and took the hit while Greece cried like a little bitch.

So that's how we are.Knowing that, do you thing we care we will be less rich after unification ?
I for one would gladly pay the bill if it would mean the romanians in MD would get a better life and reunite Romania. It's only fair after we were forced to leave MD behind and take the punishment for what RO did in WW2.

>>129177048
I need to sell some block of cigarettes first

>>129181321
Now you taking credits for lithuanians. What next?

>>129179535
lol

polish culture was so inattractive that poles created Sarmatism lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatism

they were ashamed of themselves lol, they knew that majority were peasants and NEETs

Poland is chill, you can have all lands of the former commonwealth if you want, but give germany their badass arms back. Also the mayority of sane germans actually live there and not in cuckistan.

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>>129181605
>Now you taking credits for lithuanians. What next?
Dude, are you retarded?
>>129181783
>polish culture was so inattractive that poles created Sarmatism lol
What? Sarmatism IS Polish culture and what? What ashamed of themselves? Are you retarded or something? Ukrainian and cossack culture is based of Sarmatism aka Polish culture you moron.

No, Lemberg belongs to Germany.

>>129182006
Another humongous retard.

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>>129179809
How about this?

>>129181973
Idot, polish was king serves , cosacks was freedom people . They culture was totally in other levels.

>>129181973
Ok, let's do a little test. Was Bandera polish guy, or only poles who never visited poland counts as "nobles"?

>>129172980
good questions, made me think

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>>129181973
Polish kontusz/żupan is part of Polish Sarmatian dress code of the nobles.

>>129181973
1)Majority of population of poland were peasants without rights, all ofthem were serfs. in germany or in russia only part of population were serfs (like 25%)
2)Polish cities were shitty because they produced nothing, jews rented cities to poles.
3)Nobility was not able to live good because economy based on agriculture cant support large nobility, majority of polish nobles were "plumbers"
4)0,1% of poles had butthurt because poland was a slave prison. So they created a legend that they (0,1%) are not poles, but sarmatians.
5)this was adopted by other poles lol

this is called cargo subhuman culture, this is the reason why poland always fail lol

this is the reason you will be slave to germans or russians

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>>129170917
LEMBERG; and, since we´re at it, KOLBERG, DANTZIG and KÖNIGSBERG

>Implying it's not Lemburg.

>>129182547
Lameborgh for right

>>129181457
>Knowing that, do you thing we care we will be less rich after unification ?
I for one would gladly pay the bill if it would mean the romanians in MD would get a better life and reunite Romania.
You are an exception. Romanians are nationalist, but not that nationalist as to suffer for a nationalist idea. In my opinion, a tighter collaboration of the Governments on the education side is enough. A common olympiad for Romanian language and for history is all that we need to express our cohesion as a nation. After that we should let everything run smoothly. An actual Romanian nation state isn't so important.

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>>129182307
So is the kołpak.
>>129182226
Bandera came out of a family of Polish Jews. He was a Jew.

>>129182307
What's up with the cheap copy of Chinese clothing?

>>129170917

Naturally, yes.

>>129182703
>Romania

Even coutry name and was made to pretend that you are Roman ancestors! Fucking joke not a nation! And don't forget where eas tour languages originated. XD

>>129182745
>Bandera came out of a family of Polish Jews. He was a Jew.
Ok, so when you not like it it's not polish, despite germans can be polish noble easily.

>>129182748
I always wondered that. At least Poles in the west weren't so Turk-looking and used straight swords.

Curved swords and bright silks are for non-whites.

>>129173673
kult america is just one autistic burger turned on by how homogeneous poland is, took the easy way out and betrayed his own country instead of fighting for what is right

i can tell just from the way he talks that he was raised by a single mom as well

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>>129182441

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixb4hd31R7I
Polish old man fighting "cultural enrichment" in uk.
Even old lads have bigger balls than you. Shame.
And you expect us to be like you? Wypierdalać.

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>>129182428

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>>129182085
>>129180570
Ruski proxypidor, try tinier

>>129182929
At least we were not the idiots who proveked the WW2 with kissing the ass of UK and France. :)))

>>129177674
rahul'
It's a glottal fricative, not a voiced velar stop. Don't be a katsap.

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>>129182428
>Majority of population of poland were peasants
Just like the rest of the whole fucking world at that time.
>without rights,
That's a lie. They had more rights than in any other country at that time in Europe. Of course, they didn't have as many rights as the nobles and couldn't vote for kings or attend to the parliament, but they had freedom of religion, writing or speach etc. etc. They could also leave their master once upon a year.
>all ofthem were serfs.
No they were not. Many peasants were royal peasants with priviledges. And serfdom in Poland was much different than in the west.
>majority of polish nobles were "plumbers"
Stop speaking of "Polish" nobility in the ethnnic sense, because many powerful magnate and noble families were of Ruthenian origin like the Wisniowiecki's or Ostrogorski's.
>)0,1% of poles had butthurt because poland was a slave prison. So they created a legend that they (0,1%) are not poles, but sarmatians.
It was not a legend. Sarmatians/Scythians did settle in today's Poland (and Ukraine) and did mix with the local Vandals and incoming Venedi which later created the Lechitic tribes which later united into Poland. Archeologists recently found huge Scythian settlements in souteastern Poland btw. These Polish legends of coming (partly) from Sarmatians have been passed on through generations for over a thousand years.

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>>129182441

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>>129181973

>>129183419
You was first to join hitler and march on East, kys

>>129183419
>"provoked the ww2"
You're retard. Same like people who believe that arabs provoked US with 9/11 attack to give them oil in return.

>>129183531
WW2 didn't start with the war agains USSR. try again.

>>129178483
they were bullied by brits for years about it, now they get to be the bully

psychology 101

>>129183452
>It was not a legend. Sarmatians/Scythians did settle in today's Poland (and Ukraine) and did mix with the local Vandals and incoming Venedi which later created the Lechitic tribes which later united into Poland.
So we are not just best friends, but brothers? That explains everything.

>>129170917
Ukrainins should be eaten by their neighbours. Theyre not even real country.

>>129183452
>Archeologists recently found huge Scythian settlements in souteastern Poland btw.
Probably just poorly made up bullshit, like everything poles do. I bet settlement they "found" was made from sticks and plastic identical to nearest berdonka store goods.

>>129182943
>despite germans can be polish noble easily.
Well yeah, they inroduced themselves like that.
>Gente Germanus, Natione Polonus etc.
But idk what you really mean by that. Jews came to Poland but didn't identify as Poles and didn't really mix with the population but kept to themselves as they had autonomy and own parliaments.

>>129182929
Frankly, seems dubious to me as well. Unfortunately the medieval history doesn't allow us to see continuity in how people from divided nations called themselves, because the important thing back then was the religion. What matters to me though is that we've had the same religion, we have the same language and a strong sense of being the same people. And this language is undisputably of latin origin, so there is no reason why we wouldn't call ourselves so. It's not like you would know better how I should call myself.

>>129183557
Oh, weren't you the guys who thought France has your back only to find out they used you like the fools you are ?
How bad your intel had been to not realise you are to be split between USSR and Germany , to fight a guerilla war to finally liberate your clay just to find out you are selled again by those "allies" to russians.
Fool me one , fool me twice ...

>>129183730
Ok. I was seriously about to have a pity on you in the past, but now I can clearly see, that you should be slaughtered by Putin to the bits. GTFO

>>129177054
unflip your polandball

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also friendly reminder that Jan Pawel's mother was from Lviv and was a Rusyn Greek Catholic.

>>129183743
>Well yeah, they inroduced themselves like that.
>according to polish history book
>and poorly made up 20-th century archeological or archive discoveries

>>129183860

Thanks m8, you confirmed my thoughts!

>>129179659
1)90% of polish population were rightless peasants.
2)10% of your noble neet population succumbed to tiny russian army.
3)peasants were escapping poland to settle in russia. because they received lands and rights.

4)ive googles "poland peasant war" and received shitloadsof link of links. i post random proof

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kostka-Napierski_uprising
you told zero lol
1>0 , you LOSE i win LOL

>>129172980
>ukraininam people
>in XIX

Those people wrotne Lwów were called "Tutejsi" - people without nationality. They become Ukrainian because Stalin

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>>129183730
>Probably just poorly made up bullshit,
Oh please... Even Ukrainian "historians" are into this Scythian meme. Sarmatians later pushed out the Scythians (their cousins) out of eastern Europe (out of todays Poland and Ukraine).

>At their greatest reported extent, around 1st century AD, these tribes ranged from the Vistula River to the mouth of the Danube

>Pliny the Elder (23–79 AD) wrote that they ranged from the Vistula River (in present-day Poland) to the Danube.

>According to Pliny, Scythian rule once extended as far as Germany. Jordanes supports this hypothesis by telling us on the one hand that he was familiar with the Geography of Ptolemy, which includes the entire Balto-Slavic territory in Sarmatia,[citation needed] and on the other that this same region was Scythia. By "Sarmatia", Jordanes means only the Aryan territory. The Sarmatians were, therefore, a sub-group of the broader Scythian peoples.

>The Sarmatians were eventually decisively assimilated (e.g. Slavicisation) and absorbed by the Proto-Slavic population of Eastern Europe around the Early Medieval Age.[10][11][12][13]

>Brzezinski, Richard; Mielczarek, Mariusz (2002). The Sarmatians, 600 BC-AD 450. Osprey Publishing. p. 39. "(..) Indeed, it is now accepted that the Sarmatians merged in with pre-Slavic populations."

>Adams, Douglas Q. (1997). Encyclopedia of Indo-European Culture. Taylor & Francis. p. 523. "(..) In their Ukrainian and Polish homeland the Slavs were intermixed and at times overlain by Germanic speakers (the Goths) and by Iranian speakers (Scythians, Sarmatians, Alans) in a shifting array of tribal and national configurations."

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>>129184026
>>according to polish history book
According to manuscripts and letters written by these people from the times of the Rzeczpospolita/Commonwealth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i--bB93hKKE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1dhCb4NoYI

>>129184148
Polluck history make me cry.

>>129183452
they had no rights lol, all of them were serfs

economy based on plantation style agriculture with deficite of land doesnt provide rights to peasants lol,

Wisniowiecki's or Ostrogorski's = subhumans lol, all of that people are subhumans.

the only people that mattered in ukraine lived in kiev and wild field, they were russians from tribes that lived there before mongol invasion. they defeated PLC armies and germans mercenaries, then they joined russia and became developed. that is why eastern ukraine is much more developed than western.

fucking hohols

>>129184336
>Even Ukrainian "historians" are into this Scythian meme.
Of course they are, our historians love to jump on neighbour memes, just like every government paid historians do. Yet, they not so much really belive in king Jeasus or ancient superstates of some slav "nations" like polish "people".
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jesus-christ-king-of-poland-876
The whole concept of nation was introduced in 19-th century, btw.

>>129184336
Didn't your nobles fucked you over in the long run?

>>129180618
>>129181321
A tym królem będzie Kaczyński

>>129184570
Show me the script, I bet in best case it was "found" in middle or late 19 century on some church wet basement

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>>129184336
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatians

Also Polish noble coat of arms are very similar to Iranian Sarmatian tamgas (writing system).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_heraldry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Polish_nobility_coats_of_arms_images

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamga

>>129184677
Herr Govnov, zdravstvuite tovarish

>>129184968
kaczynski to zdrajca, aszkenazyjski zyd i pseudopolak. Prawdziwe jego nazwisko to 'Katz' albo 'Kalkstein'. Wlasnego brata poswiecil, by sie dorwac w koncu do wladzy. Trzeba przegonic te plage z naszych ziem.

>>129170917
>rightful
>polisch clay
choose one
also return danzig OR ELSE

>>129170917
>Lwow
Lemberg is rightful German clay!

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>>129184674
>they had no rights lol, all of them were serfs
Lie.
>Wisniowiecki's or Ostrogorski's = subhumans lol, all of that people are subhumans.
Kys.
>the only people that mattered in ukraine lived in kiev and wild field,
Funny because the elite of Kiev became Polish.
Also Chmielnicki was a Polish noble from his fathers side.

P.S. Just kys butthurt troll.

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>>129184968
What about this polack kings?

>>129174560
Das ist gut.

>>129170917
best Poland = partitioned Poland

>>129173948
This
Also Poland cared about the historical parts of the city and rebuilt most of it (allthough not as much as east poland due to the fear of Germany wanting it back). The cities still look more German than most cities in Germany. Berlin and Munich still have most of their historical sites, but Cologne, Hamburg and Frankfurt are modernist piles of shit (you can cut the modernist for Cologne, it is just a pile of shit)

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What's the point of fighting over history when we all have negative birth rates in the present?
At least your ancestors propagated.

Find your country in "fertility rates" on Google.
Now tell me why you latch onto feelings of superiority and values when you have neither, solely as a consequence of not being able to evolve as a group because evolution requires propagation in a species.

>>129185810

They are going to look so terrible once she hits her 30s

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>>129184861
Some of them did, yeah...
>>129184968
Bleeeh
>>129185019
I already linked one.
>>129185200
Stfu stupid kraut >>129183496

>>129185928
There is an old saying "to move on to pastures new".

The Pole Bros can have any European clay you want! We'll help you take it if we need.
Poland should be one of the USA's nest ally.
We could help you take Doucheland and you could have that if you like.

>>129185968
>I already linked one.
No you not

>>129185968
also
>protestant poles
dude

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>>129186052
No point in clay if nobody is breeding.
Clay should only be a right of those who procreate.

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>>129185249
big part of elite in kiev became polish in 17 century, then they were killed to the last person, they were like 0,1%. elite became russian again.

all polish nobles, all their soldiers, mercenaries and jews were killed by cossack army

then cossacks joined russia and started to develop science, industry and export goods

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>>129185710
>Also Poland cared about the historical parts of the city and rebuilt most of it (allthough not as much as east poland due to the fear of Germany wanting it back). The cities still look more German than most cities in Germany.
You fucker, Gdansk has been Polish for 700 years while only 300 years Teutonic/Prussian/German combined. Yes, it has shared Polish-German (actually more Dutch because Polish kings preffered Dutch/Flemish arhcitects in Gdansk) culture, but Poles rebuilt THEIR hisotrical city. >>129183496
>>129183496
>>129183496
>>129183496
>>129183496
Pic rel royal armory of the Polish Crown army was designed by two DUTCH and one POLISH architect(s) for example.

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>>129186165
>cossacks (...) started to develop science

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>>129186378
You need to calm your nerves more before attempting to press the correct quote number mang.

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>>129184113
>1)90% of polish population were rightless peasants.
Bullshit
>2)10% of your noble neet population succumbed to tiny russian army.
When?
>3)peasants were escapping poland to settle in russia. because they received lands and rights.
First of all, not peasants. Second of all, not escaping, but sending forcefully. Third of all, it was Sybir.
>4)ive googles "poland peasant war" and received shitloadsof link of links. i post random proof
It was so random, that it is literally the only legit link.
Also
>Aleksander Kostka Napierski was an adventurer and officer in the Polish army.
Not peasant
>He recruited his forces from among some rebellious highlanders in Podhale
Not peasants
> Napierski called on every peasant in Poland to rise and overthrow the nobles and remove them from their positions of power. His attempts to spread the revolt were totally unsuccessful.
Peasants were not interested. It was peasant only in name.
>Claim Poland had peasant war every 25 years
>Find only one example in entire history of Poland, where rebellion consisted of few dozen guys.
>I was right!
Also, to find Kostka Napieralski Uprising you have to search that in Polish, because English phrases
>peasant wars in Poland
or
>poland peasant war
gives nothing back (general peasant wars wiki page, German peasant wars, a fucking EU4 game question
>How do you keep from having perpetual peasant's wars as Poland ...
)
Whereas to find Kostka Napieralski, you have to type in Polish pierdolony polaczku

We should just take what's ours kek. It's not like anyone is going to help them anyway

>>129186333
Move back to Poland or shut the fuck up please

>>129186378
yes, as a part of russia they had oportunities to take part in development of world science, they even developed own architectural style, based on barocco

Poles remained in poland and counted pigs and cows

>>129186333
>by two DUTCH
They was dutch speaking protestant poles as well, why you so shy? Everyone was pole.

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>>129186117
Orthodox Poles as well, so what? Poland had religious freedom. >>129173355
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Confederation
>>129186254
>they were like 0,1%. elite
That is actually a lie. They made up a large part of the Kievian intelligentsia in the19th and 20th century.
>then cossacks joined russia
Ah, the rebelious butthurt warrior class of Orthodox Ruthenians and Poles who were peasant or criminals who went to the Wild Lands to escape from the law and be free.
Well, I tell you, Chmielnicki later regreted that he allied himself with Russia against his Commonwealth when he saw the difference in how he was treated by the Polish king and the tsar. >>129176559
>and started to develop science, industry and export goods
BWHAHAHAHA!