Gun Buybacks

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>>129142625
Because we don't trust the government

>>129142625
It start a civil war

>>129142625
Ya goy, I can only do 50 sheckles on the AK. Its not like you have much of a choice huh goy? Go on, take the deal. Its for your own good.

>>129142625
there's several factors.

>>129143306
Umm... how much are shekels worth exactly?

>>129142625
"Crime went down"
I'm not a statistic
I've been in a situation where I've drawn my CCW
It was while working bar with skimmpy waitresses
people are just unpredictable
And when you are put into dangerous circumstances it's better to be that guy with the fucking gun then that guy thinking "oh god what do I do?"

>>129142625

Because we would kill the gun grabbers. SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS

>>129143533
I dunno goyim, like a gorillion or two? It doesn't really matter... Just take the deal!

>>129142625
>Crime went down in Australia after they did it
Say that to the innocent people in Melbourne that are being robbed, bashed, raped and even killed in home invasions.

Our crime rate was going down before the gun ban. Once the second generation Somalians came of age (came of age as in hit fucking 12) they started to commit crimes. Now most of them are 16-24 and large swathes of Melbourne are no-go zones.

They're even playing games with our cops now. They have this little competition where they see how many cars they can steal, and every time they steal a car they take it on a joyride and wreck it. Some of them have stolen something like 80+ cars. Every time they get caught they get let out on bail, and they end up receiving a suspended sentence of like 6 months (basically if you commit a crime in that 6 months you automatically go to jail for 6 months + whatever sentence you receive for the crime you just committed).

It's the niggers, mate. It's always the niggers. At least the Chinese have the common courtesy to keep their chinking-outs private.

>>129143703
Calm down semper fag
>>129143306
Thats $20 it would be fair market value>>129142966
No one is going to war over guns retard

>>129143802
Can I just have a gorillion instead?

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>>129142625
But that's false you fucking baiting, sliding nigger.

>>129142625
australia is an island

ur argument is invalid.

>>129142625
>65%

>>129143917
Says you with your likely 0 firearms or experience with them.

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>>129142625
>Why don't we have a mandatory buyback in the US?
Good fucking luck. We are at 300,000,000 guns and climbing.
>Crime went down in Australia after they did it
Except it didn't.
>http://www.gunfacts.info/blog/auditing-australia/

>>129144267
I own a gun. I went to the range with it too.

>>129143917
I will
the second the government does that I'm storming the capitol with my AR15

>>129144353
sure you will tough guy

The lack of guns are letting the niggas/Abos run rampant in some parts. Hell even the white trash in dangerous these days.

I'd feel safer with a bullet in their back DESU

Americans wont turn their guns back in.
You think Jim and Billy bob are going to turn back in their 500 gun collection thats been passed down and added to every generation?

Only jamal and tyrone turn in guns, theyre stolen. White people who turn in guns only do it for guns they know the buy back will pay them more for then there value. and if you force a buy back you just made the value of all guns got up massivly.

Forced Gun buy back is like telling people to come turn in their health insurance. GFYS

>>129143802
do people collect coins in non-american countries? are numismatics common enough elsewhere? i jus tknow everyone and their grandmother "collects" those old romans that litter the med

>>129144578
>Jim and Billy bob
Poor ass rednecks don't have large gun collections. That rich motherfucker in town driving that new BMW or Tesla is conceal carrying and likely has thousands in firearms at the home.

>>129142625
Because non of the guns in my collection are currently for sale, sorry OP.

>>129142625
https://youtu.be/pELwCqz2JfE

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>>129143984
That is basically useless for arguing with anti-gunners.

https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-crime-data/recorded-offences-2

It's literally just the niggers doing it in Victoria. Google "Apex gang". I'll go down the first few pages of Google News.

>Families left terrified as five shots are fired just before African Apex gang members held a machete to two men's throats and demanded car keys

>'If they want to take a car or property, let them': Suspected African Apex gangs in terrifying four-day Melbourne home invasion spree - as top cop urges residents to hand everything over

>'My fear was we're not going to see our son again': African gang attacks autistic teen for the SECOND time in a month - as his parents say thugs have also targeted their Melbourne home

>Police and Border Force to deport 'a number' of Apex gang members

>Melbourne jewellery store robbed for second time in three months by violent youths

>Refugee parents of out-of-control youths are sending their troublemaking kids back to war-torn countries to “straighten them out”, fearing their children will spiral deeper into a life of crime if they stay here.

These are just some of the things those cunts have done. There's one Australian here who has a list of something like 300 different news articles about violent crimes. I think we only have 10,000 niggers here in Australia.

FWIW I'm not sure about other states but I have gun shops and ranges all over the place almost like vape shops. New indoor range is opening up here soon and just bought 2k rounds in bulk for my 9mm and 380 plinking needs soon. It's like a day at the beach for us as a famalam unit.

1871 Winchester is about 15 grand

>>129144456
fuck you
unamerican trash
get out of my country

>>129143909
>innocent people in Melbourne
>Melbourne
>people

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>>129145637
>1871 Winchester
Good vids on those

>>129143909
I wonder if the new laws where the cops have better guns will solve anything?

>>129146219
If they're allowed to label any nigger they see as a terrorist and shoot him, yes.

>>129143917
We went to war over fucking tea

>>129142625
Some cities do. Usually not a good idea. I support mandatory gun ownership. Municipalities could choose to subsidize.
We attempt to teach kids to read and write, and subsidize their learning. We should include guns and their use in that education.

>>129142625
why dont we have a mandatory buyback of computers to keep faggots like OP off the internet?

>>129142625
also, crime has been going down in america and gun laws have gotten looser

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>>129142625
thats because muslims committing terrorist attacks count as 'culture expression' there.

>>129144342
Then go sell it back to the government you hypocrite

>>129146986
When they make me, I will happily hand it back.

However, I need to own it so I can be a gun owner and argue with you

>>129145396
That's what I enjoyed about living in Perth. Never saw more than a handful of nogs my whole time there... just abbos fucked up on sniffing paint thinner or gas.

That aside, the argument anti-gunners are making is that a buyback, ban, or otherwise infringement on a person's right to protect themselves translates into less crime overall. It's trivial to state that less firearms will correlate to less firearm related crime; however, the larger point that would be missed is that criminals and those with violent tendencies will find new avenues with which to do what they would otherwise have done (e.g., glassing, knives, etc.). Moreover, those who acquire firearms illegally would have no concerns with decreasing the number of potential incidents in which they find themselves looking down the barrel of an armed defendant.

It's also trivial to state that the over representation of a minority group (in this sense, taking minority in it's strictly literal definition and NOT racially) in a population statistic will decrease the average or occurrence of what is being examined if said population is removed from the study.

That said, shipping them all back to Africa is still the best option.

>>129143917
Ill start a war over the right to bear arms
FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS

>>129147141
>When they make me
Man fuck you, if you're for Americans selling their guns back then you shouldn't have any reason to own one yourself.

>>129147170
>That's what I enjoyed about living in Perth.
That place is in the middle of our housing crash. It's a bloodbath.

>It's also trivial to state that the over representation of a minority group (in this sense, taking minority in it's strictly literal definition and NOT racially) in a population statistic will decrease the average or occurrence of what is being examined if said population is removed from the study.
So why don't we REMOVE NIGGER?

>buyback
There probably are, but real americans tell them to go fuck themselves

>>129147343
I own it so I can defeat the strawman of "you don't even own gunz man!!"
>>129147214
sure you will tough guy

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>>129142625
>Why don't we have a mandatory buyback in the US?

fuck off you pinko commie faggot.

SHALL.

NOT.

BE.

INFRINGED.

>>129147629
The 2nd amendment can be changed faggot.

Even if, it doesn't say you can own a gun, it says arms. That could be interpreted to mean a lot of things... When heller gets overturned it will clarify

>>129146307
If people terrorizing others are classed as terrorists that is.

>>129144456
Oh, you're one of those guys. You know? The type that hasn't nothing valuable to say or contribute so lurks until he can antagonize someone. That's cool.

How does it feel to be a low-t faggot?

>>129147628
All you are is a virtue signaling piece of shit who's going "Look at me! I have guns! They're bad! Bin them now so we won't have crime!"

If you think guns should be gotten rid of to end crime, put yours in the pile first. Simple as that.

>>129142625
>make a $20 Pipe shotgun
>sell it to buyback
Profit

>>129147885
The liberal knows that they can never enact a total authoritarian police state with so many guns in the hands of the private citizen. They form illogical arguments which are meant to be parroted in an attempt to subvert the population they're trying to force into being dependent on them. The average liberal that you know in real life is just too easily convinced of these arguments.

>>129143917
i will you commie scumbag

>>129147801
>it says arms. That could be interpreted to mean a lot of things.
fuck off kike

>>129142625
Okay but they pay me for whatever Im willing to sell it for

>>129147885
My gun is locked up, it is a double edged sword for you isn't it

>You can't speak because you arent a gun owner

>you can't speak because you own a gun and are a hypocrite.

You just can't stand the fact that I am right. Guns are killers.
>>129148143
No, you get market value

>>129147884
The OP is the kind where they hate people who go to the gym: self-discipline. The left lacks it, despises it, and goes out of their way to make excuses against it.

Owning a firearm is a responsibility and requires the discipline to know where and when to use as well as where and when not to use it. Liberals hate this. They hate self-reliant people because they only have the group to reaffirm their bad choices and terrible lifestyles.

Plus also Jews want their perceived cattle disarmed when they want to initiate their world purge.

>>129148235
then no

>>129147438
Too much of your population is concentrated in liberal cities on the coast, even in relative terms, and liberal cities breed excess, degeneracy, and weakness.

Purge Melbourne and Sydney, at the very least.

We had one in Brazil. I don't think I need to say anything else.

>>129148412
Then you will be arrested.

>>129148486
>kill 9 million people
Calm down Adolf.

>>129148497
Yea and they went full retarded commie and shit has been hitting the fan. Now they might dial it back some.

People like the OP and folks in other countries don't understand. The idea of firearms ownership is an assumption that an individual can take charge and responsibility for their own safety. This is antithetical to leftist in two ways: Leftist sheep want to be coddled and feed off the rich with gibs. Leftist slavemasters want to prevent non compliant persons from defending against the state.

>>129142625
>mandatory buyback
that's called confiscation and crime went down pretty much everywhere in the western world in the last 30 years no matter how many guns are around you subhuman freedom hating nigger shit.

>>129143917
>No one is going to war over guns retard

I would.

>>129142625
Crime didnt drop.
>>129143917
Yes going after guns would cause civil war in America, 100,000,000 people will not give up the right.

>>129143917
I fucking will

>ok hasn't posted proof of owning a single firearm
>people are still replying to this shitposting

>>129148555
i'll just shoot them with my $6,000,000 AR15

>>129142625
>Crime went down in Australia after they did it

Actually, home invasions, robberies, rapes, knife crimes, etc all went up after the gun ban dramatically since they announced in all the papers it was from then on illegal to own a gun to use to defend your home and family criminals literally knew law abiding citizens are handing in their only means of defense.

>>129148915
op*

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>>129142625
>in Australia
>fewer citizens than Texas

More Australian motorcycle gang DIY firearms surface
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/04/australian-motorcycle-gang-diy-firearms-surface/

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FYI in case it wasn't already stated but the constitution in the USA is a rule book for the government not it's citizens who have inalienable rights under GOD the day they're born.

OP should post a timestamped picture of his piece.

>>129142625
They do these here. Good place to wait outside and buy cheap firearms. The cops will hassle you but cannot legally stop you.

>>129149016
Why does everyone ignore this. Also Mexico, Brazil.

>>129142625
The have them in all the niggertown cities around here. All the niggertown cities still have the highest violent crime rates. All that happens is nogs sell their broken guns and antiques stolen from white people to cops that pay a better price, then they either buy drugs or better guns.

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>>129149609

>>129142625
Because fuck you

>>129148235
so the only reason you own a gun is so you can tell people they shouldnt own guns?
and we re supposed to take you seriously why exactly?

>>129148235
Before guns it was swords and axes. Before Swords and axes it was clubs and stones. Before clubs and stones it was teeth and fists. Before teeth and fists it was teeth and claws. Before that it was toothless maw. Before that it was 'who's mouth is bigger'. Before that was nothing because life had not yet begun.

TLDR: Weapons are the best measurement for the progress of life.

>>129149729
Why only look at gun murders. Isn't the figure that's more interesting just murders?

>>129149392
I am not going to post the picture of my gun with the serial number and everything.

All you need to know is that it is a hi point model 916

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>>129148640
Nein. To be fair, you can choose which major US cities you'd like purged. Odds are 60/40 it's still a good choice even selected at random.

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>>129149729
America has a nigger problem, not a gun problem.

>>129149853
>this cunt actually owns a HiPoint
Hi Tyrone!

>>129149859
>To be fair, you can choose which major US cities you'd like purged.
San Francisco so I can talk to your average backpacker without having a stroke.

>>129149853
>it is a hi point model 916
t.niggerwithinternetaccess

>>129149853
I totally believe you own a firearm.

>>129143917
wanna bet

I wish my state would do gun buybacks.

I would spend all day every day manufacturing shitty pipe guns and selling them to the government for $100 each. I could make several thousand bucks a day.

>>129149853
LMFAO HI POINT
NIGGER DETECTED

I live in the american south and trust me. we white southern males have A LOT of guns. almost all of them. A big piece of lower-some what upper middle class male talking point in the workplace is guns.

Cause who doesnt like guns. none of the black guys or mexicants have any really. only the upper class mexicants have a couple.

My close buddy just inherited his grandfathers arsenal. thats how we get our guns. passed down from generations. and sons in the military get us good deals :)

fuck off liberal faggot go bake a cake

>>129148831

Me too.

>>129150692
Yup, both my brothers are liberal faggots so I got all my grandpas guns when he died. A couple shotguns, rifles, and 5 handguns. That just adds to the ones I already have. So no I literally own over a dozen guns and about half of them were inherited.

>>129148235
Or, you're quite literally lying, baiting us, and trying to make us think that crime happens because people own guns instead of WHICH people own guns. Protip: They don't gotta be legal to kill anyone.

>>129143917
that's bullshit and you know it you b8ing faggot

>>129143917
I would have turned in the one registered rifle I own (live in Jew York, fuggin safe act) and immediately buy something illegal and unregistered within 48 hours.

How successful.

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>>129148235
>he genuinely believes that inanimate objects are the problem

>>129142625

>Crime went down

Yeah so did freedom.

>>129149729
You can't make these comparisons without accounting for niggers.

>>129145396
>it's just the niggers doing all this crime!
So it's the same as America, get rid of niggers in statistic and gun homicide rate plummets.

Great talk Aussie.

>>129142625
Extremely misleading, when they removed guns, gun crime went down, not all crime you stupid fuck and stabbings went up so much they completely filled the gap.

>>129146219
considering even shooting a terrorist in the this country could cost you your job i doubt.
Shit skins have the run of the place.

>>129149729
now show the one that just includes white people.

>>129148235
>>You can't speak because you arent a gun owner
you aren't a gun owner, you're a pleb that owns guns

>>129152658
Look again, its the 2nd bar from the left

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>>129149729
>>129149849
>>129150030
>>129152016
>>129152658
>now show the one that just includes white people.
>>129152926

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>>129143984

>>129153050
beautiful.

>>129142625
You will get 1 million plus people killed trying to take guns away here. Over my dead body.

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>>129149729
>>129153050

>>129142625
Because I won't participate and neither will most americans.
Good luck taking them by force.

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>crime went down

lmao if you say so faggot, stats dont mean shit if they can be manipulated

theres more crime nowdays than there was after one cunt went on a shooting spree

>tfw we'll have a knife ban soon from all the stabbings in australia

>>129142625
>Why don't we have a mandatory buyback
Shall not be infringed.

>>129147628
You may as well not own one you fucking pussy faggot.
You're still a little bitch who's afraid of them.

>>129153385
>Crime reporting has not improved since the 1880's

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>>129153446
>theres more crime nowdays than there was after one cunt went on a shooting spree

less shooting deaths tho

>>129149853
>hi point
Motherfucker, you're not a gun owner. You own a piece of scrap.

during the same time period, violent gun crime fell faster in the USA than in australia.

LOL

>>129144342
Once?

>>129143533
3.5 shekels = 1 US dollar.

>>129142625
yu don ni gunz, da gubbament is hear tu pratect uz. mmm stopbid USA. Scrpmfy tash lubn kukuckkanner. now gib mes pls

>>129142625
we should have negro buy backs too....

America isn't Australia

>>129147989
Someone on here did that, I think. Put a bunch of stupid shit like "glock & Wesson" on the side. The police basically told him to fuck off.

>>129142625
>Crime went down in Australia after they did it
False. Gun crime went down. Violent crime went up one generation later, which is the amount of time it takes to raise criminals in an environment where they don't fear their victims being armed.

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>>129142625
Look I know its hard to understand that guns dont commit crimes since you blew your brains out with your 'hi point.'
Some people are just fucked up, they will commit crimes regardless of whether or not there is a gun available.
What reason is there to take guns from law abiding citizens who have done nothing wrong?
honestly the only real problem you could say guns have is suicide rates in the US. the majority of them are suicide. but even then guns dont cause suicide. people cause it just like that article the other day with the gf who 'convinced' her bf to off himself.

>>129142625

because then everyone will "lose" their guns in a hunting accident

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>be Australian
>have to acquire a permit to get a gun
topkek!

>>129155742
100% correct. Nice call Mohammed

>>129142625
Well other than not trusting the government and also not trusting criminals on turning over their weapons. The handful of times the CA cities that offered a buy back, they only offer at most $300 for certain weapons, but basically they do not offer the true value of the weapon, so what initiative do law-abiding citizens get when they would most likely lose way more on a monetary value.

>>129143917
>No one is going to war over guns retard
you know nothing about america.

>>129142625
Crime didnt go down after guns were mostly banned here.

In Australia, if someone invades your home, ties up your wife and kids, rapes them and you kill them during the ordeal you will go to jail.

The right to defend oneself is almost non existent here.

I love Australia but to be honest we are the most heavily surveyed, highest taxed, highest electricity bills with very little freedoms. As time goes on I want to move to Canada or america more.

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>>129142625
>Crime went down
I'm sure places like Chicago will clean up in a hurry without guns.

>>129143533
>1 shekel = 1 soul
are you for sale?

>>129143917
Not all of us are cowards like you.

>>129149729
Iceland is filled with guns....

So its evident that guns arent the problem its the people that are the problem.

>>129144456
He wont get far but he will die a martyr there are worse fates.

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The Australian Institute of Crimonology has updated their site since most of the graphics ITT were created, so here's a new one with a functional source.

>>129147628
you are a sheep

>>129143917
I fucking well will.

>>129156658
>high electricity bills

why in the fuck would you not have an acre of solar panels on your ranch?

>>129157749
>why in the fuck would you not have an acre of solar panels on your ranch?

They take years to pay for themselves. They are quite expensive.

>>129147801
T.J said ship owners can own canons, I can own Assault rifles
kys

>>129157749
>why in the fuck would you not have an acre of solar panels on your ranch?

Because it costs about $15,000 just to get enough panels to supply one single townhouse in Australia, and significantly more if you actually have large electricity needs. Solar Panels are pretty much never pay for themselves here.

>>129145423
There's a reason we're the Gunshine State

>>129142625
Programs do exist in the US where illegally obtained firearms may be anonymously turned in to authorities for a small reward($100-250) in certain jurisdictions. The problem is that these programs recieve murder weapons regularly, which are then rendered inadmissible as evidence in a criminal case, due to the promised amnisty when turning in said firearms.

The US isn't one big city. There are millions of people living in rurual areas, for whom calling the police isn't a viable option during a home invasion or a robbery. There are a ton of areas where the response time by police can take longer than a pizza delivery. "No guns" in the US will never happen for every area.

That's why we have borders within our country. We recognize that we are SO big that we can't possibly expect the same laws to work for everyone.

>>129158183
This makes no sense, they have gotten so fucking cheap in the last few years. Even if it takes some years to pay off...

I mean fuck, people have them on their homes here in Denmark just to take a bite out of electrical bill, and we have fuck-all of sunlight.

>>129159281
You realize it literally costs $120 to buy a DIGITAL video game on Steam here right?

>>129142625
You missed the chance for that when Hilarry lost

>>129158072
But how will he kill himself efficiently and painlessly without a high-powered rifle?

>>129153861
I would much rather get shot over getting stranded. And since it's my right to own and carry firearms, I don't have to worry about either.

>>129143917
fuck you think i got the guns for in the first place

2a to the max

>>129158183
That's because they ignore ways to harness the elemental flaws in the design.

Roof tiles designed to catch sunlight.. They can be designed geometrically to change the pitch of the roof to channel rain water into a down-spout with a water-wheel connected to a generator.

People argue "Solar pannels are useless when it is raining."

But what if the solar pannels were SHAPED to catch the rain and channel it into one point downhill, with a wheel turning a crank-generator? Even if it was raining at night the system would still produce some electricity.

>>129157749
Even those with solar panels got fucked quickly by the system. We used to be able to make money simply from having panels on your roof but the companies made sure that didnt happen.

Australia is beautiful and has some amazing communities but we're heavily regulated to the point of almost no freedom.

And yes, it makes no sense that we are not farming the sun. If you request sustainable energy to your house from elec companies it actually costs you, on average, an extra 50 bucks per quarter.

>>129158183
Look, we can all agree that we need a roof over our head, regardless of where we currently reside, or what means of income, or lack thereof, we currently have.

Why not find a cheap way to turn that roof into supplimental resources? I honestly dont understand the backlash against the idea.

>>129160254
Because you're literally not allowed to unless you pay extra idiot. You have to pay MORE to use Solar power from your own panels than you do for regular power.

>>129160139
Here in florida we voted down a law sponsored by one of the most powerful companies in the country. They tried introducing a law disguised as giving us rights to solar power that we already had based on a law passed in 2008. What the bill really did was allow FPL to tax customers with solar power for the amount that they were saving.

Florida voters didn't bite.

You have way too little confidence in the common man to make the right decision. Most people are kinda dumb, but we aint fuckin stupid. And nobody likes to get fucked. Most will do their best to avoid getting fucked in fact.

>>129149203
We Mad Max now

>>129159354
hahahha holy fucking shit.

clearly you guys dont have enough immigrants to stimulate your economy.

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>>129142625

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>>129142625
I'd rather have the means to defend myself and more crime then give up my right to arms and have less crime.

>>129160604
Not where I live, chummer. They tried passing a fancy-worded law to fuck us and we got red-pilled and told FPL to go fuck themselves. Solar energy is still tax-free in Florida.

>>129160684
I don't buy it, with the current state of affairs of the world.

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>>129142625
>why won't you give up your guns, goyim?
Because fuck you nigger kike

>>129160684
The average Aussie is pretty stupid though. Our law comes from convict law. We were basically a prison island that eventually made some changes. Our constitution isnt even a constitution of the people. We dont have Free speach here nor do we have the right to defend ourselves.

>>129160891
What's not to buy? You're from canada. You probably have a trailer in broward county. Stop using a french-to-english translator on the internet and read some of the local papers while ur down here clogging up the fucking roads you cunt.

>>129159999
>People argue "Solar pannels are useless when it is raining."
>But what if the solar pannels were SHAPED to catch the rain and channel it into one point downhill, with a wheel turning a crank-generator? Even if it was raining at night the system would still produce some electricity.
Similarly useful would be attaching small paddle wheels to our asses to catch the turbulence when we fart and turn it into electricity.

You clearly don't know shit about physics, retard.

>>129161048
Did you know we fucking love aussies here? Your accent and sense of humor alone could probably get you a TV deal. Why dont you come here and make us laugh with your crazy fucking stories?

I'll even bring you to the gun range and let you fucking shoot stuff.

>>129160756

But they have aborigines.

>>129161058
How about you clog up your fucking arteries and die already you fat fuck.

>>129161171
You clearly arent from florida, retard. We just got 30 inches of fuckin rain LOL.

And we are also the state with the most privately owned solar panels, and the state that Tesla is pushing their solar homes project in.

KYS NOW

>>129142625

Crime wouldn't be going down in the areas that are afflicted, sadly.

no, it didn't.

the police are liars, and you know it.

The police fear nothing, they have all the guns, they don't have to do ANYTHING.

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>>129161311
Working on it. We have a restaurant in Dania that sells poutine to fucking frenchie cunts like you, and I've been blending it up and shooting it up with a needle.

My arteries are soooo leafy from fuck-faces like you, I don't even know how I'm typing right now, my hands are so numb from lack of circulation.

>>129142625
You're wrong though. Gun crime did decrease, but overall crime rates continued to go down at the same rate they were going down before the gun ban. It's something that just gives the illusion of security or improvement.

>>129142625
>>129142769
This, and the only ones selling their guns are the criminals anyway. See how that works, anon?

>>129161171
Changing the pitch of a roof to channel gallons per second through a six-inch diameter tube would drive a water wheel just fine. I've tested it. It literally only takes a few sets of childrens wooden blocks.

>>129142625
no it didnt. the number of "mass shootings" went down. but that wasnt the gun law. that was the fact that the gub started counting "mass shootings" as 5 or more.

there are 2 people killed in western sydney almost every week, always by gun that should have been "bought back", but were unregistered.

>so everyone that legally owned a gun had to give them up, while every armed criminal got to keep that
you heard me right

additionally, the guns that we are allowed to keep (in extremely regulated circumstances) are kept in a registration. and...
that registration system was hacked a few months back, and people with the data have been staking out/robbing those guns when the owners go on holiday.
so thanks to the gub making shit difficult for responsible citizens, whilst also being woefully incompetent at basic cyber-sec, now more criminals are getting armed while we cant have anything.
and the cops are alright, but theyre busy watching jihadis 99% of the time. basic things like hold ups or robberies fall by the wayside.

>>129161937
It's impractical really. Unless you're in a region which gets regular heavy rainfall. Where I live we rarely ever get a real storm, and the GPM from it sprinkling isn't going to produce an appreciable amount of electricity, if it even moved the water wheel at all. If you're not in a very specific weather region you'd likely never live long enough to make the ROI

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>>129142625
LE australia gun control maymay,

Durrr gun violence went down

Yeah but other violent crimes and home invasions sharply rose Cunt!!

>Crime went down in Australia after they did it

No it didn't. I don't think gun crime even went down

>>129146307
One of the coroners reccommendations after the Lindt seize is permitting SOG to shoot to kill in such situations... an amazing shift in the ROE thingy

>>129143909
Are the crime rates in any way on the same scale as America? Because America's crime rates are more comparable to African nations than first world nations.

There are two big reasons for this, but taking reason one (guns) away from reason two is a start.

>>129143917
People like you are the reason I have guns

>>129142625
Then fucking move there. IDK what the fuck is wrong with all you wanting to make US like some other country.

>gun control doesnt work

I dont know guys, New Zealand doesnt have many guns and we're doing pretty shit

>>129142625
Crime did not go down.

There was a terrorist attack in Australia less than 7 days ago where the killer used an illegal automatic weapon, he took out 3 heavily armoured swat police before going down.

>>129142625
shill

>>129142625
haha, I made one of these because i'm a felon and can't buy a real gun. it's sitting in my closet with 5 slugs and 5 00 buckshot. cost like 5$ because I had the pipe already.

>>129149729
I bet the niggers per 100,000 graph looks exactly the same

>>129142625
Crime and homocide were on a downtrend anyway.
Guns don't create violentcrimes, they just potentiate the ones that happen while simultaneously giving good citizens a way to fight back.
Real reason guns get restricted is because you can kill politicians with them.
The only people that get given sick guns are verified good goys/whipped bad goys in police and military.
Big guv literally does not care if you have to get gangraped by nogs if it means they can keep their power and not risk themselves+their mates getting killed.

>>129149729
Now let's see america with and without non-whites

>>129163582
This.
People need to understand the mindset of the politician.
They are niggers in every sense of the word.

>>129162497
If you don't get rain, then there really isn't much argument against you getting solar panels to augment your electricity consumption.

I don't understand the backlash against quote "green energy".. One of the greatest eras of expansion in this country was the industrial era, and it was almost exclusively driven by the water wheel.

Every mill or foundry in america built during the industrial revolution was located right next to a river, because if you dipped a wheel into it, you could get free electricity. Now private corporations buy our politicians so they can maintain their monopoly over energy. They want you to suck that black, oily dick for as long as it remains profitable.

If you own a 30X50 square foot warehouse that uses 10,000 kw/hours per month in electricity, pitched solar panels and a rain catcher will pay your bills at 45" of rain per year.

>>129163741
Until we get our right to self defense (and our weapons) back, consider politicians overall to be full on dog cunts.
We'd be better off with full blood abbos running the show because they would be too retarded to figure out how to Jew us properly.
Australia is utterly fucked desu senpai

>>129146401
>We should include guns and their use in that education

It used to be that way until the 1960's.

>>129162497
I came up with the idea because I live in a place where we get 120-170 inches of rain a year, but if you get no rain, then you should probably have fucking solar, yeah?

>>129164201
It's been years since I looked into solar panels, but last I checked they didn't pass ROI in the electricity they generated. Have they become cheap enough to be viable?

>>129142625
> Why dont we copy duertes drug policy?

> Drug use went down after they did it

Thats a good question actually; at least there is a based aspect to executions without trials of neets while generating tons of liberal tears.

But my point being, even if your 'statistics' were correct and meaningfull, there is more to it than its direct effects. some people actually value their freedumbs

>>129164224
This desu. If you have any sense you'll move out bush and watch it all burn from a safe distance with a cold one.

>>129143917
>No one is going to war over guns retard

You really need to exit your parents basement once in awhile

>>129142625
>Mandatory
Sorry officer, my friends and I were in a boating accident...

>>129142625

bullshit
crime remained the same in Oz
in fact it's escalating due to no jobs, no money, drugs and general hopelessness
If I were in the US, I would part with my teeth before I'd relinquish my guns

>>129162497
The REAL problem in the US is that "collecting rain water" is illegal under federal law, as I understand it, and using rain to generate electricity may fall under those laws governing the collection of rain water, so we may be limiting ourselves because the energy giants understand the potential energy that may be gathered from the rain.

>>129164440
absolutely. it all comes down to their survivability. tesla has invented easily connected roof tiles that can sustain heavy impact and don't come dislodged. The problem with early solar panels is that they had to be raised from the roof structure. we have tiles that are PART of the roof. they literally are the shingle now.

My idea is that the geometric shape of the solar shingle can be changed to catch rain water and channel it into a small point to drive a generator and make more electricity, day or night, sun or no.

>>129164736
As long as you don't STORE the water it isn't a problem. This would simply be diverting it. It's not illegal.

>>129165124
That's another thing. Where I live we get so much rain it floods. This idea could channel the rain away so it doesn't end up in the street. The idea isnt to store the water.. It's to capture the POTENTIAL ENERGY of these thousands of gallons of water that wash over my house uselessly every year.

>>129163357
>look how dangerous guns are, this 1 person was able to hold off a dozen police officers singlehandedly for 4 hours

>lol, even if everyone in our country had a gun they wouldn't be able to protect themselves from the government, you retard

>>129165112
You didn't answer whether the equipment is capable of ever reaching ROI though. It's good the durability problem has been solved, but if it doesn't reach ROI what is the point?

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I don't like to harass anyone, But the lib dems need to pull their fingers out of their assholes and start throwing around some political weight. Especially seeing as how they hold a swing vote seat.

The "right to self defense" is not a hard ask, especially in light of such recent massive attacks the world over.

Young men aren't fond of the idea of blowing cuck whistles and cowering when a religious fanatic decides he doesn't like coffee or Lindt chocolate, Enough!!!

>>129143993

The Americas are an island

ur argument is invalid

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>>129143917
Let me get this straight. We're having more terrorist attacks than ever and you want me to give up my right to protect myself? Really? What the fuck am I suppose to use? Harsh language!?!???!?!?!

>>129146336
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>>129166260
The LDP is populated entirely buy typical Boomers who only care about guns insofar as they want to play with them and they currently can't. They don't give a fuck about Australians, they're in it for their own benefit.
Leyjonhelm on WA this week was a typical example. Shilling for chinks, not even trying to disagree with the literal commie, and generally being a total doormat.

>>129166633
Dude enough with the pessimism, We just need to keep broadcasting that we aren't happy & we want our "right to self defense" back NOW!. They can either deliver conceal carry or become a irrelevant party simple as that.

>>129165803
ROI will NEVER be reached with one specific idea or solution. This is another step in reaching that goal. The idea is simply a roof that pays the energy costs of the home over the whole area. Certain improvements need to be made in the regions where they are most effective. No region has a specific ROI solution, but region-specific innovations applied in the correct proportions could result in a negative energy result for everyone.

>>129153861
>hi point model 916

So if it's instead knife, club or rape death the dead victims have not actually died?

>>129167321
I just meant; given ideal conditions. When I was looking at solar panels, they were so expensive and inefficient they would never reach ROI.

>>129142625
>>129156465
Look here for the best offer the state of CA is willing to offer for the buy back: >>>/k/34201572
Fucking retarded if anyone takes up their offer, makes me want to stand outside and asking to buy their weapon for cash instead of a stupid gift card.

>>129142625
Overall crime has actually increased in Australia since the gun 'buyback'.

>>129156658
>we are the most heavily surveyed, highest taxed, highest electricity bills with very little freedoms

Why is it you (as well as europeans) say it like it was something impossed on you by an external entity by surprise?

>>129165803
Say for instance you live in an area that has less than 60 days of protracted sunlight, but you live in an area near the coast, tidal canals would be what your area contributes in electricity output.

Tidal energy has been incorrectly viewed as only being valuable for it's flow in and out of certain areas, however, everyone has ignored the fact that it rises and falls three to four feet in canals everywhere. That up and down flow has been ignored because the in and out flow appears to be the most powerful, and therefor the most profitable.

The path of LEAST RESISTANCE is always the most desirable. Setting up generators in the open ocean is WAY harder to sustain than setting up generators anchored to the bottom of canals that harness the rise and fall of the tides to generate electricity.

Every geographic location has very specific advantages to creating green electricity, we just ignore them because there are already proven ways to generate electricity with fossil fuels.

>>129142625
>be Ausfalia
>ban guns
>citizens forced to 'sell' back their guns
>20 years later
>country becomes a Chinese colony without a single shot fired

>>129161267
Sold!

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>>129146219
Dunno the step up from a bb gun revolver to glock made a huge difference.

>>129167716
I'm not advocating for you to buy the solar panels that are available now. I'm saying don't base your future judgement years from now on the solar panels that are available now.

If you are a home owner about five years from now, buy your roof from a private experimental energy company instead of the mexicans putting tar shingles on it, because you will save a fuck-ton of money on your electricity bill.

>>129161048
>Our constitution isnt even a constitution of the people

WTH don't you do something about it?!

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dont listen to the jew gun crime has stayed the same but we have no way to defend ourselves and there nothing fun to do because everything is banned

>>129168771
Case in point
>only a fraction ever found
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-15/four-corners-gun-running-syndicate-brought-down/8526592?pfmredir=sm

>>129142625
>Crime went down in Australia after they did it
Fuck off cunt.

Gun crime was decreasing before the ban and continued on the same trajectory after.

>>129168636
Just me? There's maybe a handful of Aussies aware enough of this to do anything about it the rest are either too drunk, busy doing up their cars or trying to keep their temperature down to do anything about it. Most Australians drop the line "we have it so good here" when you bring up any truth on the matter. Australia is a haven for white collar crime and sadly its all legal. You can be arrested for protesting in this country. We dont have any rights to self defence here. The game is so rigged here that there literally is no way to change it. The rest of the world could go WWIII and Australia would just become occupied by its own military.

>>129142625
>>>129142625
>>be Ausfalia
>>ban guns
>>citizens forced to 'sell' back their guns
>>20 years later
>>country becomes a Chinese colony without a single shot fired

So much truth it hurts.

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>>129143917
>No one is going to war over guns retard

Canada in charge of a convincing VPN

>>129163582
>Real reason guns get restricted is because you can kill politicians with them
Exactly and has been the case since the invention of the craftman crossbow in the middle ages. If common folk can face politicians then they can also overthrow governments.

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>ywn be a white settler living in a colonial era country where niggers and women know their fucking place

what would they do if they could see us now?

>>129164201
>I don't understand the backlash against quote "green energy"

Mutual Funds rely too much in the marked value of oil. That is all to it.

>>129143917
>big city faggot detected
Why don't you go beg taxpayers for your NEET benefits you fucking loser. Neck yourself.

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>>129166273
Never change you shitposting cunt

>>129147801


On paper. But the right will still exist.

The Bill of Rights doesn't grant rights, you stupid motherfucker

>>129169209
>Most Australians drop the line "we have it so good here" when you bring up any truth on the matter

You are going wrong about this. You have to have like minded people become politicians and take back the nation from the bottom up. Convincing people to vote this or that way is irrelevant if all the candidates are cucked.

>>129145057

Wanna know how I know you're retarded?

>>129148235

I bet that spork made you fat as well.

>>129148235
>My car is locked up, it is a double edged sword for you isn't it
>You can't speak because you arent a car owner

>you can't speak because you own a car and are a hypocrite.

You just can't stand the fact that I am right. cars are killers.

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>>129142625
>Crime went down in Australia after they did it

i dont belive it. can't be true. citatation needed.

>>129143582
>>129142625
Crime also went down in the USA.. and crime was going down years before the buyback in Australia.

>>129175344

crime went up.

Home invasions and violent assaults/stabbings have skyrocketed

>>129142625

Illegal Immigration is a crime, it did not go down.

>>129175344
Violent crime was on a downward trend which continued after the buyback, firearm related violent crime (obviously) went way down, but regular non firearm related violent crime picked up the slack.

>>129143582
>I've been in a situation where I've drawn my CCW
Big macho man until it comes time to fight, then the first thing all "high testosterone" macho gun fetishists do is pull out their gun.

>>129142625
I wonder who is behind this post
>Large nose sticking out from behind pole .jpg

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>>129142625
Howard only gained the political traction to do that, in a FAR less gun-loving culture than America, after a brutal false flag attack in Tasmania.

Am I fucking REALLY supposed to believe Martin Bryant - an autistic, borderline retarded man with the mental acuity of a 7 year old somehow sourced/figured out how to use the weapon, planned the attack and then, with basically zero firearms experience and no training just ran in there and fucking headshot everyone with impeccable accuracy?

Is the Martin Bryant pill the biggest Australian politics redpill to swallow?

>>129177582

>Is the Martin Bryant pill the biggest Australian politics redpill to swallow?

Yeah it very well could be. The evidence which shows that it was a false flag attack is strong. But you know Aussies, lap up whatever narrative the media spins.

A big one is also all those mining ceos that went down in a plane over africa a few years ago. Quickly forgotten, little media attention.

>>129171214

Working on it. Very hard to get into politics in Australia. Americans are told that "you can be president" from a young age. In the UK and Aus, that isnt said. Everyone knows its an exclusive club.

>>129142625
You don't have enough money.

>>129163216
we have lots of guns, just not in city centers.
Every farmed has like, 10.

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>>129157601
>banning guns increases sexual assault and rape

The Left eats themselves again.